How Federal Agents Can Legally Take Your Money at the Airport
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Law enforcement agencies routinely seize currency from travelers at airports using civil forfeiture-a legal process that allows agencies to take and keep property without ever charging owners with a crime, let alone securing a conviction. In this episode, we discuss the real stories of victims of this abusive practice, the new IJ report-"Jetway Robbery?”-that shows just how widespread it is, and what travelers need to know to protect their property.
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I distrust your channel. Please everybody, be extra skeptical on this one. This is one of those channels that BLOCKS ALL COMMENTS every 'now and again' ..... I'm guessing it's when ppl disagree with their agenda...... anywho, screw this ppl lace. they lost my trust
@Up 2U naw.... I just stay they hell away from airports.
Many months ago I received a scam call. It said it appeared that I had bought an iphone on Amazon for a certain amount of money and if I agree that I had bought it, just hang up the phone. I hanged on the phone until the scammer hanged up first. Since then I don't answer my phone immediately unless I'm 100 % sure its someone I know.
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@@Wrighjj good one 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The solution is simple: Ban civil forfeiture.
And we can retroactively make them pay back all the money they have stolen.
@@josephvanname3377 With interest.
Better yet. Ban the bloated agencies alltogether and have these welfare recipients get real jobs.
What about actual criminals? That are moving lots of cash and have millions of dollars in assets? I think we should still steal from them.
@Maky Lemur
Not just interest but like with the IRS, interest and *penalties* !!!!
The DEA agents need to be charged with stealing,.
Armed robbery.
They need to be charged with Rebelion as this is unconstitutional and an attempt to overthrow the Constitution.
Better start getting politicians involved
Funny how the govt has waged war against the people and the people don’t know it yet
It may be "legal" but it's absolutely NOT "lawful" nor "constitutional".
Your 💯 percent right key word lawful ....... their rules for their courts .... legal law has nothing to do with a man or woman
Yeah but she is just a b****
It's completely illegal: It violates the Constitution.
That being said, the scotus is looking to help the feds in this area.
what do you mean "it may be legal" there is absolutely NOTHING legal about it....how dumb are you?
@@mr.waynes7555 I misread it at first, too. Read it with the quotation marks around "legal".
Never mind putting it to better use, GET RID OF CIVIL ASSET FORFITURE! Period!! Unless you are convicted of a crime, they should not be able to seize ANYTHING!
Well, except in a civil case where someone sues someone else and wins, or if someone is sued and the sued person is awarded costs, surely they should be able to collect?
@@MrGoatflakes Absolutely not. They should use normal collection methods like credit reporting. Debt to a citizen is no less important than debt to the government.
The government should not be able to go into your bank account to collect its fines any more than it can go into your home to collect its fines.
The government has been taken over by criminals. Every inch of power that you give these thugs is an inch that will soon be up your rear end.
@@unifiedtheoryoflife9922 credit reporting doesn't collect money, I was talking about a civil suit where both parties are private citizens, and not so called "civil seizure" where the government just decides to take your money because reasons.
What I'm talking about has literally existed since courts of law and is subject to due proceed, namely it can only happen as a result of a verdict of a civil trial.
And the alternative is that a business can be found grossly negligent, incompetent, or malicious and yet simply decline to pay their victims, and the only punishment they would receive is that paperwork would be lodged at a private business, maybe even themselves, detailing how naughty they have been.
@@MrGoatflakes You are surely wrong...ask any good attorney.
@@MrGoatflakes You seriously think there is due process any more?
They are nodifferent than a highway bandit of the old days they just have a badge and say and say its legal. But it is not lawful to
@ Do you have any idea how literally impossible it is to lobby Congress or *any* legislature and succeed in advancing your agenda when you're opposed by much more politically powerful groups, especially when they're law enforcement?
Read Lysander Spooner The Constitution of no Authority.
@@edwardmiessner6502 If that is the state of affairs, redress needs violence to enforce the will of the people. From time to time the blood of patriots and tyrants is required to reclaim liberty. We are at that crossroads.
People will need to use force, not violence, and it needs to be immediate during the robbery. Would you not defend your life's work? These criminals are stealing because it doesn't cost them anything. If they have a high probability of not surviving their criminal act, they will be less likely to attempt it.
🤔" It is hard to imagine a more STUPID or more DANGEROUS way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong 😳 { Thomas Sowell } "Quote"
Right now there is a law that removes ANY liability from pharmaceutical companies for adverse side effects of vaccines. Yet we are going to trust injecting our bodies with something that will never come out once it is put in.
They're going to give is all the CoVid19 with the vaccine. You'll have to be strong to survive it.
@@r0xjo0 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.
@@justusforrster9264 Please stay on topic and voice your opinion in an appropriate venue.
They actually appear to benefit by being wrong.
One time when I got an insurance settlement I wanted to transfer the money to a different bank. They said they couldn't do that but they could give me the cash. They almost insisted I take the cash. So I said what about a cashier's check, they actually said wouldn't cash be more convenient for you? I had them make a cashier's check.
@Foxy The Prirate Fox Now disbanded (alleged) drug interdiction unit stops a business traveler alongside the highway, "robs" him of all of his cash, and tells the guy he can keep all of the checks and money orders made out to his business, but somehow is 100% certain that the cash couldn't possibly also be proceeds from the guy's business. It's on UA-cam somewhere, most likely on one of the commonly known auditor's channels. Their actions speak for themselves. Not even stupidity could hold a candle to that lunacy.
They have stopped someone who just won a jackpot at a casino and stole his money.
The government steals more than all the crooks in prison across the country. Thou shalt not steal includes the government also. They aren't exempt from that commandment.
I saw one where a cop was watching a check cashing place in a bad area... follow a guy that just cashed his check and seized it even tho he had a pay stub... because the cop said he was about to buy drugs...
With no formal record of the monies seized, I’m wondering how much ends up in the pockets of the seizing cops???
An agent in Seattle literally put my aunt's money in her pocket. The agent opened my elderly aunt's wallet, removed all cash- about $300- and stuck it in her pocket. Gone. Supervisor threatened to arrest my aunt if she didn't move along.
almost all of it.
@@joliekae nazi's in charge.
Plenty. Believe it.
There are cops who will seize the cash and let drug dealers go on thier way, with thier drug shipments, by arrangement, on a schedule.
They're all up and down every major interstate highway.
This is just an example of how useless the Supreme Court is in standing up for peoples rights.
Justification for civil asset seizures are
“Because they can!”
Because people allow it.
Dissolve the TSA, and return the responsibility of passenger-screening to the airlines. Yeah I know; dream on.
Chertoff & 9 * 1 1 It's all a coincidence
The TSA is security theater.
Get rid of the DHS and no screening. Just punish Hijackers and Terrorists, shoot them on site.
Security is a fictitious concept created by government, to justify its existence. TSA, was needed to because the fiction was exposed. Thousands Standing Around.
The airlines did better at it then the GOVERNMENT ever did...
How is this not theft??? This pisses me off!!!! Stealing an old man's life savings away from his daughter so now she is unable to take care of her elder Father!!!!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!!!
"Land of the free home of the brave"
God bless Murica!
There is no justification it’s theft period. This happens all the time to people just driving down the road it has nothing to do with international travel.
They should be sued personally in a 1984 rules since they are violating well established constitutional rights.
Law enforcement has immunity from civil lawsuits.
The Supreme Court did this to Americans!
You probably mean a Section 1983 (ei, 42 USC 1983, or Civil Rights Act of 1871) action....
Even if incorrect, there is a certain Orwellian nature to all this, aka 1984.
This is unlawful
That's just the point: it ISN'T.
"Officer, what made you target the defendant." "I detected the strong odor of cash." Are police required training in armed robbery?
Yes they are taught to steal your money. THEY NEED TO BE IN PRISON.
Is there a law against carrying casj?
Most all of them are crooks, alcoholics, drug addicts and they beat their women.
Yes cops are now criminals
Citizen: Im going to fly with 10k of my own money.
TSA Screener: Why do you have 9k in cash? Im going to have seize this.
Low Level cop: Hey TSA Screener...I see you confiscated 8k in cash from a citizen with no record...Ill take it from here.
Seargent: Hey LT! Our cops found 7k at the airport! Drug smuggler, probably.
LT: Here ya go assistant District Attorney...all 6k of the seized money from the cartel.
DA: Well assistant DA...Im not sure we can prosecute for 5k in cash..but we'll try...I mean, its the cartel, ammi right?
Judge: Yes...Mr. DA...I'll hear the case about the 4k cash and the evil cartel.
Jury: Guilty of Drug trafficking with the 3k that was seized--shame on you, drug cartel mule.
Guess where the other 7k went?
@@bamahama707 What other 7k ? Burning children in churches and setting crosses afire never paid much.When was the time you seen a good old fashion lynching.
Still legal in most parts. Times have changed. People gotta change with it.
With interest rates being what they are. The kids new braces and the old lady's second car, things mount up you know. So that's where the money went, mister smarty pants. You happy ? You satisfied now ? I didn't say nothing about the KKK.
Lord is my witness! I heard Lincoln was only five foot three. He had a tall hat, is all. Which he stood on to make speeches.
Keep after these despicable government agencies. I’m very grateful for you attacking these criminal acts. I appreciate your efforts.
Make a 2 part video 1) What to do and not to do when carrying cash at the airport etc 2) How to navigate the system to get it back.
@Up 2U That's the standard border customs declaration for US...
I wouldn't have even known you need paperwork to travel with cash! I mean its mine I would never think I would have to inform anyone else.
Exactly‼️😲🗣. None of anyone else’s business y you have YOUR PROPERTY
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Doesn’t this go against the bill of rights. I can’t remember which one it is but I remember hearing that Americans shall not be deprived of life liberty or property without due process of law.
I would be interested to know if the Supreme Court has shown any interest in revisiting Civil Asset Forfeiture.
Believe me everyone gets a piece of the action
They have not ruled on it directly. They ruled on a case where someone’s vehicle was kept during a stop and arrest but they ruled the vehicle returned because it’s value was much higher then the applicable fines. So it wasn’t technically a ruling against civil asset forfeiture it was against unreasonable fines. Unfortunately The supreme court’s way of not ruling against civil asset forfeiture.
Trump was all for keeping C.A.F. going but I have a sneaking suspicion that some one talked him into it and has no idea about how many regular people are being totally and completely phuqued over by "law enforcement". Tennessee concentrates it's efforts on cash heading south. They have no interest in stopping the drugs heading north. They want the cash. Tennessee is the worst from what I understand. Thieving bastards.
@@FJB-522 Trump signed laws to prevent stuff like this from happening in 2019.
www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/trump-signs-collins-irs-civil-asset-forfeiture-bill/
Research "right to travel." The Supreme Court has ruled many times on this matter. Police cannot even lawfully stop a traveler without witnessing a crime (a crime for a natural, living people is ONLY one natural people harming another natural people.) There is even case law that shows one does not need a concealed carry permit as a traveler, either. Right to travel is a great place to start in your study of natural law (the only law that applies to natural people,) because there's so much case law that supports it. Attorneys, bound by the ABA, are not allowed to even tell you about it. Learn!
Do you fellas provide a service to help intervene on behalf of citizens who have suffered abuse at the hands of law enforcement.
One of their videos explains what they do. They take cases that may win them recognition with the Supreme Court and change policy. IJ cannot help people with natural law, because they are bound by oath to maritime/merchant law, so don't think of it so much as helping people, but changing the policies of commerce. I hope that helps.
Did she get her money back?
It’s not legal to take anyone’s money without proof they have committed a crime!😤
That's robbery, plain and simple..
The authority to take money from others coupled with qualified immunity is the ultimate example of a moral hazard.
They don't actually think the money is suspicious but rather and opportunity.
I remember reading a report that pointed out that the average civil forfeiture of cash is less than one thousand dollars. The point was that the agents involved will know that if the legal expense of a lawsuit exceeds the amount seized, a lawsuit is unlikely. The cases we hear about are like the example in the video. If an innocent citizen is targeted for forfeiture of tens of thousands or more, the lawsuit becomes more compelling.
When you can sue the individual agents who have exceeded their authority, it will stop too.
All of these agencies have figured out they can abuse the civil forfeiture loophole without any consequences for their heinous and disgusting behavior. They are greedy and heartless in most of these cases and it's quite literally "justified" robbery in their mind. This loophole needs to be closed and these agencies need to face legal consequences for their unconstitutional behavior.
It’s really scary to hear TSA is receiving kickback to violate our 4th amendment basic human rights and for now there is nothing we can do. Thank you for making this video and fighting for our basic human rights
In FL people at random vehicular stops had cash confiscated. They were going to auctions requiring cash to buy lockers, cars or houses. The state police or local offices accused them of using the money to buy or have gotten the cash through drug sales - even when proof of why they were carrying cash was provided. There was a huge scandal on Florida's east coast that it was illegal theft. Even after officers were found guilty people didn't get their cash back because they had no proof of how much was stolen by the "officers".
Do not carry cash that you can't afford loose to the criminal government. This happens on our streets and highways.
I can't believe she was planning on going on a airplane with this !
Living on a Cloud
It's common knowledge
DEA will size it !
@@jamesmurphy2828 It could happen when driving too. Probably much less risk, but its the same.
Less than a third were even arrested?! That's evidence that this is simply a money grab.
wow...did I wake up in Mexico ?
Just a fancy way to legalize theft
The stench of the war on drugs is strong with this case.
They want a cashless society for total control.
They call it the war on drugs. It's the war on people.
If no one is there to see that innocent people's money is not stolen by Officials in power then We the people need the names, addresses and photos of all officials that steal money from innocent people....
Remember the Boston Tea Party? Civil asset forfeiture is just like that, taxation without representation! There needs to be a strong penalty clause for failure or refusal to return assets if they are not proven to be connected to a crime, in a timely fashion. Only punitive and compensatory damages will make it too painful to just take people's money and property, maybe even some jail time for STEALING from the people and violating their rights
Listening to you guys makes me want to pursue law. You guys are doing great things
Asset forfeiture laws need to be erased state and federal and they should start from scratch.
Great information to consider. Cobbling together information from sites like this suggest the reasonable and proactive solution for the common traveler is to use electronic funds transfer or completely avoid carrying physical currency. The risk of loss is too great and the government actives are premeditated to create a hostile and near impossible logistical labyrinth for the average citizen to recover cash.
The weakest link of the entire process will be human intention. Money (or sex) is the oldest culprit to expose human flaw.
But great work for the Institute of Justice for taking a leadership position on legally adjusting the due process of civil forfeiture. Critical taxation and drug enforcement mission statements can continue without the need for strong arm tactics. The improvement is the transparency of due process during common property forfeitures.
It is unclear to me what would happen if you refused to allow the money to be separated from you unless they present you with the charge of a crime. Does anyone have any information on that situation?
They can only take Federal Reserve Bank notes, there are other forms of transportable money exempt from confiscation.
Another reason that their true value is going down the toilet.
I doubt that. It would take your house your car your cash your jewelry your gold your guns, whatever you have. There is no boundary for them.
Federal Reserve Bank notes, are by law owned by the Federal Reserve and used only for "Bank Ledgering of accounts" between financial institutions. In actuality they are "Credit instruments" for account credit Ledgering.
Coins still come from the Treasury, which is why the people were asked to turn in their coins during the lockdowns.
@@DW-ts5ki Seizures of valuable items do occur, especially where an actual crime is suspected, but seizing cash is easier and more profitable even where no crime is evident (as explained in the video).
It's it ironic that if you're traveling with large amount of cash, the robbers you should be most worried about are the cops!
The police and DEA, department of Homeland security are getting so dangerous for the American public safety. People are literally getting afraid to leave home because of the arms government agents.
There is no law to declare money on a plane for domestic flights......when asked questions do not answer, ask if you are being detained; if not go on your way with your money. If they try to coerce you by saying you are being detained tell them you have nothing to say and request they call your lawyer.
Note to all.....have a criminal lawyer's card on you and a number in your phone. If out of state your lawyer can procure one for you.
This is a unconstitutional practice! Marburg versus Madison in 1803 Supreme Court Case, states that if a law conflicts with the U.S. Constitution, it"s not a law!!! This particular matter is one that I would protest so venomously they probably would have done what they are best at, besides taking what they have no right to take, and that would to be to shoot me!!! I have not had any problems with LEO's in at least 50 years. I'm 69 now. I see law enforcement, regardless of which branch as completely out of control! I have a serious problem with LEO's that act outside of the law and this is wide spread. I respect the law and obey the law! However I do not respect nor do I support bad LEO's, under any circumstances! I watch them everyday as they extort money from people, violate their rights, beat the hell out of people without cause, they shoot unarmed men and women, they use traffic stops to try and find something to arrest you for, thus causing huge delays and illegal seizures of property. LEO's have just begun to feel the hate they work so hard to earn everyday. I have no confidence nor trust at all in our judicial system, elected officials, nor the folks they hire! This election is proof positive that government is corrupt from the top down. Who can trust any of them? The legislators and courts have made so many laws that are either directly or indirectly against the U.S. Constitution. I no longer trust anyone in government and any sane person would have to agree, without a doubt!!!
Thank you Institute For Justice!
We need to change this!
That DEA agent peed in his pants he was so happy that he could ruin a taxpayers' life!
We are living in Germany 1933
This is just crazy , btw found your channel through Steve Lehto
And we wonder why people are killing our officers
It has been this way for 100 years! I’ll one up it and say they can walk into your house and open your freezer!
Deer permits, tags, property only, antlers or no antlers. It’s mind numbing. I have camera’s all over my timberland, and we watch the development from year to year. We’ll max out on total tags possible in household, and I think that triggered a red flag. We’ve had game warden snooping around, setting up their own cameras. Prob to see if someone is on the trigger and using one of the kids tags 😇
We’re responsible hunters. Their are two 200 inch plus bucks out there we won’t take in order to keep those genetics on the property. They were huge yearlings, and bigger every year.
Unfortunately Tom, the government doesn't care if you're law abiding citizens or not. They're not snooping around for criminal activity, they want to watch you. Just like a tyrannical police state like Nazi Germany. The army should've torched Hitler's work.
Can you shoot their cameras? Unfortunate accident!
What about when agents offer a "deal" whereby the owner forfeits a large portion in return for signing a waiver to not pursue legal action.
In theory a contract signed under duress or as part of criminal extortion is invalid.
Try to prove that, or do so without stress and life disruptions and legal costs more than most such thefts by armed thugs....
For $40k to $250k or more in costs plus several years of elevated stress and lots of time, you may or may not get some of your $20k back.... Which tactically, is part of the scheme.
Consult your legal aid advisor on how to protect money before traveling. Make a cashier checks, travelers checks. Wire the funds to your bank. Better make a cashier check. Always consult an attorney. It's worth not having your funds stolen buy all those crooks.
She should have done a "Mister T", and should have worn the money as Jewelry.
Diamonds are a Girls best Friend, Wholesale of course. Anyone?
Yeah and diamonds are really worthless, most common gem known to man. It's only the strongest stone on earth though.
1st thing to do if there is a cash seizure FORCE the agent on the scene to ARREST YOU. This begins paperwork that FORCES them to charge you with a crime to justify taking your property in open court. File the forfeiture return paperwork before your court date, they will drag their feet but you want it on filed for when you go to court. Get in touch with a group like IJ, the local media. Get the names of all officers present and file complaints & release through social media.
I was worried abut that at the airport . I was going to payback the 20 grand i owed to a relative by taking it on a plane to them . But instead I did a 24 hour mail to them . That worked
So painful
Q: WHAT can we do to protect ourselves, so that it is NOT seized to begin with?
Would receipts be enough?? Would reporting over 10,000 for international travel with receipts, solve the problem OR would it just "open the door" for them to seize it? Thanks
Saying that criminals can steal money legally discredits you.
If I am carrying $5,000 to $10,000 in travelers checks are they safe from seizure? Can travelers checks be seized? If so, can the government cash them without the owner signing them? Can they force the owner to sign them? If seized can you get them replaced as if they were lost or stolen?
Good questions, I would think they'd be safe but have no idea for sure. I have honestly forgotten all about them. I had used then decades ago and worked fine in that world back then. Today, your questions red to be asked for sure.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd guess they can just keep the checks (and other property) regardless if they can cash them or not. If you take photos of the checks, you'll have a record of them so that you could go back to the bank and report them stolen. Be careful to note that it was an unlawful asset seizure, or you could be setting yourself up for a fraud charge.
If you can still get paper checks. I think they've moved to debit cards now. Police carry machines that will clear out your bank account using your bank card, so they might be able to clear the traveler's check card the same way.
@@friedenhiker1032 I can go to my bank's web page and freeze my card. I wonder if that would prevent the police's magic money sucker from working? I would only unfreeze it to get money from a local ATM.
You guys are fantastic. I will donate money to your agency. Sincerely Chris Garland
Thanks for fighting for the people
in 2014 cops took over 4 billion in asset forfeiture and has been going higher each year
I commend all of you for fighting for our rights, its not easy to defend freedom and justice.
I agree that asset forfeiture without a conviction should be illegal, and the mere presence of a large sum of money on it's own does not rise to the reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed.
With that said, stop traveling with large sums of money. If your bank has no branch in the immediate area then go open a savings account with a national bank in the immediate area OR arrange for a small fee to wire transfer it OR get a bank to issue a cashier's check to you for the amount. All of these are better methods of transferring a large amount of money into a bank account in your local area than traveling with it as cash.
Also, pro-tip for anyone who does all their banking at a bank that is only available locally open a savings account at a national bank and just deposit say $100 every quarter/year or whatever you can afford to keep it "active". Then if you are ever in this type of scenario you have a means as a customer of a branch of that national bank to deposit the cash without needing to travel with large sums of cash. Of course you have to let the bank know about the providence of the money, as they will have to report it up to fec.
This is bloody disgraceful. In Ireland we have the Crminal Assests Bureau (CAB) first of it's kind globally. They must apply for a warrant to enable them to seize cash 7/or assets. Allowing the Feds to play cop, judge & jury is shocking and wide open to corruption. If the Feds have a genuine reason for concern or illegality then they could seize the money temporarily but should have to apply to a special federal court sitting at the earliest possible oppurtunity.
Is it possible to end the Irish promotion of corporate crimes, in the form of a historically huge civil liability cap, that's become a token wrist slap when companies like IAC/I or FuckedBarf create fake headquarters or legal domiciles there?
Try and get the supreme court to hear a case
The government really hates people who travel with Cash. I remember a Ron Paul staff member was detain at the airport for having money from book sales.
While these seizures are breathtaking and UNJUST, I heard firsthand from someone that a person who sold his house in U.S. and wanted to take $250,000 cash with him to a Middle East country to buy a house there. So this guy a day before his flight with the cash goes to the airport Customs office and explains that he is leaving the country tomorrow with about $250k cash. The Customs gave him bunch of forms to fill out and bunch of officers began counting his cash money for verification. The next day he left with all that cash with no problem. So I wonder how such a contradictory treatment could take place.
Keep Pressing!
This will make a good movie 🎬. A local (Sheriff ) takes a law abiding citizens money and the local government refuses to return the funds after citizen did everything correctly was required of them. Here’s the twist. The citizen is a judge or politician in another state. Taking money 💰 to help a family member who dies because of forfeiture laws and the local government will not return the funds.
She should've have gotten a cashiers check, that being said civil asset forfeiture is nothing more than theft!!! Where the hell is "due process " in all these cases??
Highway robbery. How is that possible in the land where private property is sacred. Utter hypocrisy.
"Land of the free home of the brave"
God bless Murica!
The largest needs to change so that police can be charged with death and robbery and a judge can look at the facts of the case without knowing that it was police involvement and then he can decide whether it was staffed or robbery just by the facts of the case.
Can someone please please please explain to me why people are carrying around such massive amounts of cash? I need a good, logical, rational reason why this is a thing. It's absolutely ridiculous to be carrying around that much money in cash. It's not illegal, just incredibly stupid.
It's no wonder why people go postal
Even simpler put it in a checking account at the departure city, right a check to yourself in the checking account that is yours in the city you are moving to.
Oh and one other thing - the Supreme Court has ruled that violation of a persons rights based on a presumption is not allowed - see Vlandis v Kline ... the cops have to complete an affidavit that they have probable cause that the money was used illegally- so what you have is an unrebutted affidavit on the record. There are cases that say that the court does not even have jurisdiction over the res till a claim is made - the claim must be a verified claim... if it's a federal seizure the claim must be made in triplicate...the 1789 judicial act gave the Federal District Court jurisdiction over ALL SEIZURES and it's my position that all seizures include seizures also means seizures made by states too.
Also - the comments about having to declare over 10k when traveling internationally are in error. A thorough review of those laws indicate that they apply to couriers that are transporting funds and securities for a financial institution... what the airlines do is pressure the passengers to complete the form and then the airline will turn them in - just take the form and dont turn it back into the airline - when you get off the plane and go through customes just hand them the blank form and tell them you dont work for any financial institution- the times that I know of that this has be done resulted in the feds taking the blank form saying thank you and either passing them on through or continuing with there customs entry... the courts have ruled that United states currency is legal to posses - the only time US currency becomes contraband is if it is used to further a crime or is the product of a crime. Then if it is seized and a claim is made the relation back doctrine kicks in and the burden shifts fo the government to show what illegal act was committed that was illegal... the seizure laws are simple if someone would just take the time to study them - I dont know why there is such a problem with seizures in this country. The feds and the states would back off this activity if the lawyers of this country would take a step back and see exactly how these seizures operate as a denial of several constitutional rights and first get the money back - then sue the crap out of the cop and the agency for a ton of money - it wouldn't take but a couple of good law suits and this crap would be over. So right off the bat is see violation of 4th - 5th - 14th amendments. Wake up lawyers
So much for “ To serve and protect “ mission statement !
Corgial tyranny is what we have in this country. We're definitely not free, and haven't been for a long time.
This why we have people like Timothy McVeigh. Our government is working against us.
How about you tell everyone what we need to do to end the madness of unconstitutional behavior. "Civil forfeiture"
Seizure without proof of crime or being sentenced as guilty in a court of law??
Is anyone going to get their property back?
There are reported cases where the citizen was able to file a lawsuit and get back what was seized. Of course, the legal fees are not reimbursed. There have been laws to reform this, but the scandal persists.
@@misterlyle. so only those that can afford justice have a chance at justice
@@davebud5658 Historically, that is often true. Those with enough money have usually had an advantage. To keep perspective, however, there are numerous examples where no amount of money could help. On the other hand, in our time crowd sourcing makes it possible for anybody to fund a compelling legal case.
@@misterlyle. bullshit
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What sucks even more is, if you stop carrying cash and deposit the money into a national or international bank, then in many cases they try to claim you are structuring or smurfing.
So then they take the money out of your bank account!
Ok folks listen up - there is a very simple way to get your money back - what you have to do is to MAKE A CLAIM TO THE AGENCY WHO SEIZED IT. Your due process is in the post seizure hearing - the money is seized on a presumption - once the claim is made the burden shifts to the government to prove a connection to a crime... what you do is to take the seizure to court - the rules are the supplemental rules of admiralty procedure ... you can have your money back in 3 days - the problem is lawyers dont know how to handle a federal seizure - once a claim is made the seizure is moved to a high speed process that is judicial ... DO NOT USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE - I have gotten money returned in 3 days... contact me if you need help...
And how do we contact you?!
@@AlexIranis1 post a way for me to contact you
One major side issue Roger Pilon of Cato used to champion, is that however corrupt or limited asset forfeiture policies are, they're less abused if parity exists across agencies, rather than one or more of armed thug paper pushers for Fed or state drug or tax or other scammers, and local, county, state, and Fed cops, do not have some agencies with massive armed thugs with badges theft policies or kickbacks to cohorts, and others with severe limits on seizures, kickbacks, or funds to pay off more cop toys versus general fund only uses.
Mismatches in such policies result in agencies or departments with strict limits seeking to have a more abusive entity take a lead role in an extortion and theft conspiracy, while entities with policies to give out high kickbacks or split the loot like pirates tend to encourage other agencies to seek "ride alongs" or conspire to make themselves secondary to others as lead.
While having policies that armed thugs with badges crime gangs keep none of their loot work best, 3 to 5 agency ride alongs that strategically play different laws and policies against each other for profit, to fund more cops, more cop toys, and more operations, are a worst case common scenario.
Financial institutions are required by the Bank Secrecy Act to report cash transactions of $10,000 and above to the US Department of the Treasury to prevent money laundering and tax evasion. Casinos are also subject to the same requirements for winnings in the amount of $10,000 and above because casino winnings are treated as taxable income.
And what most people dont know is that all those 10k transactions are recorded on your IRS individual master file- for fun I used to withdraw 10,100 dollars and hold it for a week - then deposit 10k back in the bank - every time they would have to complete the currency form ... every one of these forms has to be tracked and recorded and stored etc... and costs the IRS tons of money just to keep all the records... finally the head guy at the bank asked me what I was doing - I told him straight up I was just giving the IRS something to do... he told the tellers to stop filling out the reports on me lol... but remember this to take out 9k out of the bank 2 or 3 days in a row is illegal too - it's called "structuring" and u can go to jail under the presumption that you are trying to avoid the cash currency reporting requirement...
My way. Find out the name of the individual agent. Go to his or her home. Then, YOU know. 80k, is well worth the consequences.
why is the interviewer grinning like this is funny ?
If she had gotten a cashiers check and travelled with the check could they take the check?
@Up 2U I thought you only had to declare anything over 10,000 if you were leaving the country.
So they take the money as suspected drug transfer, but file as civil forfeiture so that the people can't get back. 👌
What you should do in transferring a large amount of money from one place to another is to get it in the form of a cashiers check.