Of course police departments are in business to operate for profit, because they are PRIVATE OWNED CORPORATIONS and not what people think it is. They enforce by-laws, color of law, rules, regulations, statutes, codes, ordinances, policies etc. We the people have been deceived at the highest of levels. The District of Columbia was methodically named United States inc because they knew that everyone would perceive their corporation to be the Continental United States, but they are opposites. The District of Columbia, named United States inc is foreign to Americans and its a PRIVATE OWNED CORPORATION that is contracted with Americans ( constitution) to do 19 enumerated governmental services for Americans and not rule over them . They created the 14th amendment United States citizen for the slaves to have citizenship but not have equal rights, standing, status as sovereign Americans do. The 14th amendment United States citizen is in voluntary servitude as slavery and involuntary servitude was illegal. Americans are NOT United States citizens and never was, but Americans have been lead to believe that they are. Through all the chaos after the " Civil War" the evil Rothschilds and politicians tricked/ deceived everyone into servitude without them knowing. These evil beings have committed very serious crimes against Americans and need to face accountability. They mirror things, like the name United States, and also the Constitution was almost copied completely. They have mirrored our states as well. Example: Florida is one of the several states of the Continental United States, but the " State of Florida" is a federal territory. They done all this to take sovereignty and power away from Americans and put Americans under their authority/ jurisdiction. Its all fraud, but most people don't know what happened to them. Open pandoras box at www.annavonreitz.com many videos and documents to review. Learn what happened and how to correct it at www.annavonreitz.com. All Americans should want their birthright nationality instead of being recorded as United States citizens which are British territorial citizens. This is the most important information that all Americans should know, ASAP. Stop living a lie
LOUISIANA IS THE WORST. COPS WOULD ASK IF THE CAR WAS PAID FOR. THEN USE A "THROW DOWN" BAG OF DRUGS AND SEIZE IT. IT IS REDUCED BUT THIS ACTIVITY WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA ON THE INTERSTATE.
@@BeckyCowanBeckysDigitalFocus thank you Becky!. It is a difficult complex subject matter to impart to other people. Apparently you and I are on the same track, I went down the rabbit hole about 3 years ago. If you take away the emotion the whole thing's kind of fascinating isn't it?.
Love your spotify! Education is key! Corruption is NOT ok. Policing for profit is not ok. Colorado would be a good example of this. We almost lost our car!
Arizona is the same way. Half the time the Arizona government does something good and deregulates something or stops some corrupt policy, then a month later, they do something stupId. It makes no sense to me.
Slowly but surely things are changing for the better So far, only Connecticut has passed a new law. As of July 2021, police officers, there will have to pay for their own lawsuits, and related damages, if a court decides that the officer engaged in a “malicious, wanton or willful act.”For all you other folks living in other states, you need to flood call your lawmakers and demand the same
No these domestic terrorist thugs in the clown costumes need to have a citizens review board to decide whether or not they can be held liable for their shitty actions. Take the court and crooked ass judges and prosecutors right the hell out of the equation that way there will actually be accountability
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat, 1801-1850 Have a nice day.
There is one huge dependency for that assertion to be true: That group of men must have the social and legal standing to do so. Without that, they never rise above being the criminal class of their society.
@@TERRY-cb2ku The Roma have been around since the 13th - 14th century in much of Europe and are now almost everywhere. Have their most rapacious elements / locations achieved what the quote asserts anywhere? Of course not, and that is but one example.
The only way I could imaging to justify it is you spent all of your nerves looking for another person to believe in until you lose your last, then you fall in to maintain a slight bit of sanity. That is only the least bit excusable if that person's environment shows no signs of any goodness regardless that they are no threat and others know it. Almost one hundred percent of good people who go through this still don't snap. They become downtrodden, enslaved, or otherwise locked out of achievements by society who refuses to understand but blame them instead.
Why be a burglar under cover when you can do the same with a badge & get away with it with the DA defending you instead of prosecuting you for cutting the same actions
Glenview IL.. I had a Chevy Tahoe sized because the local PD decided my Colorado drivers license was not valid in their town.. I won in court... had to pay off my loan with the bank to get my SUV released.. and of course, while it was in police custody, a tow truck backed into it, and smashed the front grill and bumper.. and since it was the police, I had no recourse to have the damage taken care of, and had to take care of everything out of pocket.
So you couldn't sue the police department or the City of Glenview under Illinois law for negligence because the tow truck driver worked for a private contractor and you couldn't sue the contractor because the police won't tell you and none of the tow companies operating in the area would admit to contracting with the GPD, amirite?
This has been a common practice for years. Theres even schools for law enforcement to teach them how to spot lucrative and high yield targets. Theres also many documented incidents of police targeting southbound trucks on the interstate in hopes of finding drug money headed back to Mexico. They don't care about the Northbound ones with the drugs, but a semi load of cash is their incentive dream.
They should be stopping the *northbound* trucks to confiscate the drugs and sell them themselves!!! Or are they afraid of over the border retaliation from the drug cartels?
I've seen extra police patrols on interstates close to exits that have a casino. Never thought much about it but am now wondering if they are targeting the lucky players so they can confiscate their winnings. Just a thought.
THAT'S *EXACTLY WHAT IT IS ARMED ROBBERY. JUST 49 STATES TO GO.* *GEORGIA STATE PATROL DOES SAME DAMN THING ON THEIR INTERSTATES. GEORGIA PURPOSELY TARGETS OUT OF STATE VEHICLES AS MOST DRIVERS JUST SEND IN THEIR $$ 4 TICKETS WHEN home from vacation!!*
Really! It’s called a crime when we do it! Wouldn’t it be fun to be able to search their pockets and cars to search for BRIBES that we feel they’re taking “because” that’s so common in their profession??.🤣
It has always seemed to me that this entire concept violates the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the US Constitution. I don't know how this was EVER permitted in the USA. As a juror, I would forgive these victims for shooting some people.
Yeah, when the courts refuse to protect citizens from obvious violations of their rights, you can't blame people for taking the law into their own hands.
And what did that lady say the average dollar amount was...? Something like 1300.00? So If we divide 70 BILLION DOLLARS by 1300.00 you'll get a SHIT TON of INNOCENT PEOPLE being separated from their cash!!!
Not even close to the actual amount just as was said if it was studied throughout all of the years and all of the states the actual amount would be way higher!
I got pulled over once and the cops dug into my pocket and pulled out my paycheck that I just cashed and it was only about $1,300 cash and he called me a drug dealer asking me where the dope is and that I sell dope, which I don't and didn't and they sat my in their car handcuffed for 3-4 hours while they destroyed my car inside and out, tore apart my engine bay and vital vaccume hoses and made it so my car won't run, they didn't find and drugs of course but they still took my money from me and took me to jail for erratic driving or something like that, even though when he pulled me over I was stopped at a red light not driving anywhere at the time, so anyways I lost my car, my money and my freedom because some sort of dirt bag wanted to Rob me on the side of the road under the color of law !? That was back in 2008-2009 or so, I can only imagine what these guys are doing to other poor people who can't build a defense to something they didn't do !?
Just a side note, they started pulling me over so much after that I think they were following me or just had it out for me so they made it a point to build a police profile they can officer security report or some shit but any way that is how they stalk and harass civil people who they don't like for whatever reason it l and now they are fine with doing it to people who speak up about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of the police !?
Thank you for bringing this to a more broad prominence. Civil forfeiture is government sanctioned crime. Unfortunately, we are entering an age of increasing those in power and those who are ruled. Where do we go from here?
Good job! I don't understand how these government entities got past taking of our properties without due process! What the hell is this argument that the government is making that the property is the criminal and is not subject to due process?!!
I will tell you how. Remember the drug war. If someone was tagged with the D word no citizen cared if the dirty D word person got fucked. Well eventually they needed more. And so they started on the civilians. How do you like it???
Pretty simple, there should be no cash incentive to arrest people, to go after people, cops should get paid to do their job, that's it, no bonus for more arrests or more convictions. Lady justice is blind folded for a reason.
If they want to "steal", get a second job at a car wash. The customers don't care if the vacuumers keep the small amount of loose change they might find under the seats of the cars. I made a lot of money over the course of a year doing that, about $3,000 worth of coins.
PLANDEMIC LOCKDOWN PROVES THE DELIBERATELY PLANED TERRORISM & DESTRUCTION OF THE SHEEPLES...YET WE STILL FIGHT ABOUT COLOR & RELIGION LIKE PETULANT BRATS
The States are all that’s saving us from this administration! The Democratic ran states were the only ones doing destruction even though they were paying someone else to loot & burn those cities so they could scream about racism. It’s not the people, it’s this administration starting every bit of the racism and division. You aren’t paying attention!
@JOY TRUJILLO #endhatrednow I think that's not right. States are comprised of large numbers of people encompassing the full spectrum of desires from helpful to harmful. To diminish these groups into a single sentiment is not only inaccurate, its harmful. The reason its harmful is that your perpetuating a falsehood that the young, inexperienced, and casual observer might actually believe. And within that belief refrain from taking actions to reverse the injustices that do happen. What we say, and write, in public forums matter. We can never know how far the ripples of our words will carry. Given this truth, I say think carefully before saying things that are in and of themselves only harmful. Unless of course that is your entire purpose. #endhatrednow
Vote them out. Any politician who won't cancel civil forefeiture should be out of office. You folks in the US elect judges and sherrifs and such, right? Them too!
@@lisaperal7949 Trump probably saw Civil Asset Forfeiture as another revenue stream for himself once he obtained complete power and control over the American people. Good thing that putsch didn't succeed but we're not out of the woods yet
@@edwardmiessner6502 Trump and the Texas officers were actually more worried and interested in using civil asset forfeiture to combat the out of control cartel problem they're facing in south Texas. You remember them, the cuddly loveable guys that chop people to death with machetes, traffic humans, cut drugs out of their human drug 'mules', gun down innocent people, etc etc etc I think this is a case of trying to kill a big, dangerous, and ever growing problem using what looks to be a 'good' solution, but they don't recognize or aren't properly aware of the big problems it in itself creates. It's like a doctor seeing a rapidly progressing disease, and using a drug to combat the disease without realizing it'll soon end up one of those 'black box' pharmaceuticals or potentially pulled from the shelf.
The actual cartels are government employees... When American troops and alphabet agencies are in an area with drugs, those drugs are freely available for sale in the US and the drug enforcement police do nothing.
This is probably one of the most infuriating and blatant acts of tyranny of our time. TYFYS in fighting this. You are the true defenders of freedom and public safety.
Its All scare tactics. The local sheriff speaks like it will be the wild west if they don't keep a heavy hand on the population and pretty much everyone buys into it.
A few cases actually involved crimes but a very very small percentage. There is no way crime rates can go up when most of the forfeiture the people aren’t criminals or even committed any crime. Most of these people are law abiding citizens.
0:42 - I think that's an interesting way to put it: "What states can do to protect innocent people." Frédéric Bastiat puts it this way. "The law cannot avoid acting upon our persons and property; if it does not secure them, then it violates them if it touches them." The states only have one mission, and that is to leave us alone.
Keep up the good work in fighting injustice. I appreciate that you did the research showing that CAF has no impact on crime or law enforcement. It did reduce the crime of police theft.
I'm tired of going to a casino. And winning money. And on my way home get pulled over and my winnings stolen by police. Then have to report my winnings to the irs. And pay taxes on the winnings. Which the police have stolen. Giving them a double wage. From now on I refuse to pay any taxes.
Deposit the money in the bank locally too the Casino have the bank mail you a debit card Prince show the money to your bank in your state when you get home that's exactly what I would do
We can thank John Oliver on Last Week Tonight in my opinion for making this known all over the country. I had never heard of it until I saw a segment of his show about it.
I'm sorry, but folk have to have been drifting around the internet (and the media generally) wilfully blind and deaf for YEARS if they never heard about Civil Asset Forfeiture before....
This is why even though I'm on a limited income ( social security) I make it a point to donate to IJ. Ultimately it is always we the people that defend our rights. Now I need to bug my law makers about why Tennessee hasn't followed New Mexico.
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Gee! Give law enforcement and prosecutors a huge financial incentive to confiscate private property and pocket the proceeds from the shameless forfeiture; and, shockingly, no one thought this might be a bad idea. Wow!
So what about those of us who have been a victim of this practice... how to we get our restitution. the Glenview IL PD owes me about 5k in damages to a seized vehicle..
Any politician, bureaucrat, or law enforcement officer who favors civil asset forfeiture must either be a tyrant, ignorant, or both a tyrant and ignorant. No exceptions.
Forfeiture was never meant to be enacted BEFORE a person was found guilty of using property to commit a planned crime. The forfeiture should ALWAYS be used if it is proved a person did use property to knowingly commit a crime. Only then and repeat only then should forfeiture occur. It MUST be after the fact not before. Suspicion should never be grounds to acquire said property in question.
These laws have been around for at least two centuries but the application of the laws changed in the 1980s. Originally items were seized civilly when the owner of the property was not immediately available for arrest, think the owner of a pirate ship or a smuggler. The items would be seized and for a certain amount of time if the owner didn't show up the items were sold. If the owner did show up s/he would be arrested for the crime. Today police seize the property in front of the owner without charging the owner with a crime and just say it was gotten thru criminal activity. You now have to prove the items were not gotten thru criminal activity. 1. It's hard to prove a negative. 2. Since it is CIVIL asset forfieture you are not entitled to a lawyer. 3. The average amount seized is around $600. Now how many people are going to pay a lawyer $2000 or more to get back $600. You now owe more than the item is worth. Unless you're interested in setting legal precedent ( and rich) you're not going to press the issue. In the Timbs v. Indiana case Justice Clarence Thomas said he would like to see a "Due Processe" case involving civil asset forfeiture, Timbs was decided on "Excessive Fines,"
They also abolished qualified immunity in NM. NM is a great example of how a swift and strong reaction to bad police can clean them up and restore faith in the government quickly.
Animating principle of the Magna Carta and the American Constitution. Extremely important reform everywhere in America.fabulous work your organization is doing, Bravo!
What rocket scientist thought stealing from thieves would teach them not to steal? The police dabble in criminal psychology but their opinion should not influence policy where they have a vested interest. IMO
15:15 LOL she says "innocent owners" but you can tell that the state is bent on extracting value from its residents... just try pleading innocent in a court and listen to the judge laugh at you
When she say 68 billion is low ball she is correct. Blue line thugs are allowed to confiscate cash and it is up to them to say just how much the ''haul was'' without so much as issuing a citation. Anybody see how that was ripe for abuse or is it just me?
If the authorities truly did their jobs and actively prosecuted the guilty, then banning civil asset forfeiture (i.e., taking money or other valuables without any charges' being laid on the funds' original owners) would NOT affect how criminals were dealt with, and so disallowing it would NOT "be a gift to criminals" or make it harder for cops and courts to prosecute them, since if they were found guilty, they would have to give up their ill-gotten wealth in any case. The only difference is that the authorities were simply not bothering to investigate the supposed criminals or crimes; they instead were merely taking the people's money and going on their merry way. So while this atrocious "shotgun approach" may indeed have sometimes just happened to result in the removal of funds from a number of the true criminals, these criminals were often not being prosecuted or imprisoned after their money was confiscated, and the innocent folks were being wrongfully relieved or their legitimate funds.
Might want to focus on the resulting economic boom (compared to before), in tourism and other industries that suffered very highly under highway robbery style civil forfeiture (since out of state people are targeted and also people who are on the road a lot). Tourists want to be SAFE from such things, and so do people who work with them!!
I didn't know that NC had a recent reform on CAF. Policing and prison issues are big ones for me, I'm surprised I missed that, but it's certainly good to hear.
As someone who has been a police officer for almost 15 years, I will say I have never agreed with asset forfeiture. I like the way New Mexico has made it part of the criminal process because it makes no sense to seize property from someone who is not criminally convicted of an offense. The only thing I do not agree with on New Mexico's process is that it goes into the States "general" fund. I think if a forfeiture occurs it should go into a fund that specifically assists communities like a disaster relief fund or a fund for shelters, etc.. Too often states abuse their funds and I feel something in the "general" fund could easily be misused.
At 4:41 there's a warning bar, presumably from Adobe Premiere Pro, "Analyzing in Background"; presumably from the warp stabilizer but you don't need a warp stabilizer when the cameras are stable already.
A prime example of why we need to rethink policing in general and invest those resources in people and sustainable infrastructure, and develop more effective means of understanding our species and our impact on the environment.
I blame every police officer that took an oath to the constitution, then violated people's rights. I blame every police chief and city attorney that conspired to continue violating people's rights despite a state law that clarified the practice as illegal. Your lawsuits are fine and are a great help, but these people need to go to jail. They broke the law and stole private property. Individually they suffered no consequences for what they did and will do it again as soon as they think they can get away with it. The taxpayers paid the bill for their crimes.
I'm not a big supporter of defunding the police, or a lot of the anti-police sentiment that goes on these days, but civil forfeiture should always have been illegal, and turned many policing agencies into nothing more than collection agents for the State. Civil forfeiture is one of the ways we got to the point that so many people are against them. This is the future they chose.
Civil Forfeiture *_prior to conviction_* is an abomination and needs to be abolished nationwide. When police departments make over half of their operating budgets from forfeiture and traffic fines there is something horribly wrong with the system. Moving all forfeited proceeds out of the jurisdiction that commandeered them ensuring that they have no ability to profit from the forfeiture should be the way things always are.
In Crook County, Oregon the sheriff's office takes cash from you when you are arrested, and upon your release gives you a debit card that comes with a fee to use. They are essentially stealing your property. I'll bet they're making money on the deal. Someone should look into this.
I actually found one. It's several light years away. At the speed of 70,000 mph I can be there within EIGHTY FIVE YEARS. I even built my very own space craft. Now I know that at my age I won't make it there. But I can live very LUXURIOUS in INTERSTELLAR SPACE for the rest of my life.
Fighting crimes by perpetrating crimes NEVER works! What I DID observe is how Civil Asset Forfeiture has earned law enforcement a deep, and probably irreparable distrust, and hatred, which is unfortunate. As I see it, Civil Asset Forfeiture falls under 18 USC § 241 and 242, as well as other serious violations of constitutional rights.
Exactly what is a bill of attainder?????? How can a statute, Title, Code, or ordinance like forfeiture stand when it is what it is, a bill of attainder. BILL OF ATTAINDER, legislation, punishment. An act of the legislature by which one or more persons are declared to be attainted, and their property confiscated. The Constitution of the United States declares that no state shall pass any bill of attainder.
The above is one issue. Who'd have thought that further answers are answered in the Uniform Bonding Code Section 5.1. When an individual needs to get from one place to another and is willing he calls a taxi. He contracts for taxi services. If an individual needs a book keeper he contracts with a book keeper expecting book keeping services. When an individual hires an attorney he doesn't know what he's asking. Attorneys attorn. Section 5.1: ''Attorn - Law:- To agree to recognize a new owner of a property or estate and promise payment of rent to him.'' ''Attorn - Law:- To turn over; to transfer to another money or goods; to assign to some particular use or service.'' ''Attornment: - In feudal and Old English Law - A turning over or transfer by a Lord of the services of his tenant to the grantee of his seigniory.'' ......... ''Therefore, in English Law attornment was a method of guaranteeing an unequal protection of the Law for the rich and the poor, but one which was at least tolerable for the poor. It was a "peaceful" maintenance of the class structure. An attorney's role in this system was to provide the ceremony of the acquiescence of the poor, and to do so in such a manner (modus operandi - MO) as to preserve and maintain the class structure. The peaceful unequal protection of the Law. It is eminently clear that an attorney's role has not changed. Attorneys practice attornment.'' ''Lawyer:- A person learned in the law. One who understands law and who loves law for its capacity to rectify the evils of society. One who professes and practices "Liberty and Justice for all," and therefore the equal protection of the Law.Lawyers "practice" law. The U.S. Constitution provides over thirty guarantees of the equal protection of the law. A lawyer supports those provisions of guarantee; an attorney opposes those provisions. In America, a lawyer obeys the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land. An attorney does not obey the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, technically, a lawyer is bondable and an attorney is not bondable. State bar associations, which deal with both extremes, must therefore rely upon "self-bonding." '' Is this why the Founders banned titles of nobility in both Article 1 and the Thirteenth Amendment..... the title of ''officer of the court''? How to solve many many issues such as forfeiture? DEPORT ALL AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION members and never let them come back....... as was the intent of the Nobility Clause. Judges......... I mean corporate administrators cringe when I'm invited to their corporations PRIVATE BAR COURTS, BAR = British Accreditation Registry and all who join become registered foreign agents. As a common law Republic where statutory law must live in harmony with both the common law and valid uS Constitution how did we even get to asset forfeiture?????
Here in Clovis NM your quote does not apply. I'm legally blind and disabled and I have been stripped of almost everything I have worked for 30yrs for. Not one ounce of due process. 4 years of litigation abuse.
Just checked, as of 7/21/24 Missouri mostly limits it hard. First you have to convict the person and the show the prospective item/cash was connected to the crime. The hole is if you innocently lend something to someone and they commit a crime with it it's on you to prove you're an innocent bystander to get your stuff back.
Very frustrating, again a good idea went bad. Has to be a middle ground. If you are conducting illegal activity out of your house - BANG - it is gone. But if I rented a car or a room to someone who then conducted illegal activity - without my knowing or profiting from it - how can that be my loss? How can they keep the property for someone either not charged or not convicted?
There is a very limited reason for civil asset forfeiture. Police pulled over a car that happened to be a rental. Upon searching the vehicle they found a large amount of money under the spare tire. Neither the driver nor the passenger claimed the money. The police appropriately seized the money. Now the rightful owner of the money can claim it if they can identify the money, ie amount, types of bills proof of vehicle rental. That is what CAF is supposed to be used for. Second example, police seize my money and say it was gotten thru criminal activity, they must also arrest me criminally since they are alleging a crime. Now they must prove me guilty before the money heads to anyone's coffers. This is criminal forfeiture and how any private property should be seized. If you don't convict me then the money is returned to me.
Any so called law in violation of the Constitution is null and void. Stealing a citizen's property for no reason is an unreasonable seizure under the Constitution. Any so called imitation law enforcement officer doing that is committing a violation of the Constitution which is a crime and also violates their Oath of Office which is also a crime which means they should be immediately arrested for armed robbery which is a felony. Any officer resisting arrest can then be subject to the same treatment as any other person resisting arrest up to and including being shot.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I served over 20 years as an LEO with a number of years working as an Undercover Narcotics Officer. When these laws were first created, we were like WOW. We can hit the bad guys where it really hurts. But then the bad guys got wise and turned to other methods to launder money from illegal activities. So now you have this law and no one to go after. The training now gives officers the mindset that no one should have large amounts of cash on them except criminals and in their minds they get a huge attaboy or attagirl for seizing large amounts of cash. I now work as an Anti Money Laundering Specialist. Where people that have cash businesses such as laundromats, car washes, bars, small eateries, get into trouble is structuring deposits to where it appears that you are avoiding filing a Currency Transaction Report or CTR. Any time you deposit or withdraw over $10,000 in currency banks must file these reports with the treasury department. So until the laws change don;t do things like making several cash deposits under $10K i.e., $9,400 on Monday, $9,200 on Tuesday, $9,000 on Thursday. Filing a CTR is no big deal. It is when you try to fly under the radar and the bank's AML group files a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) and that gets the attention of the IRS, DEA, FBI, etc. If your income is legal, just play their game and don't be concerned about making large deposits.
Banning Civil forfeiture is a no brainer. I'd like to also see 100% of Criminal forfeiture go to a victims fund, if the money seized was actually from a crime, there must be victims of that crime, the money should go to them.
I was passing through Texas. Got pulled over, cop grabbed my phone out of my car without my permission which was open because I had UA-cam music on. He saw a crypto wallet and demanded I let him in it. I just laughed and said lawyer Everytime he asked me a question from then on. He let me go after 3 hours, they brought a dog out, couldn't find anything as I had nothing and pulled me over for 2mph over the limit (no that is not a joke, TWO OVER). They tried for about 30 minutes to get into my crypto wallet (which had nothing in it as I moved it to cold storage anyway). I will never go back to that state again. The corruption police departments have this day in age is unbelievable.
As a supporter of IJ causes, I would like to see you do a fully balanced reporting on the outcomes of civil forfeitures. You presented those low average forfeitures, but did not offer any analysis regarding legitimate forfeitures; money taken from true criminals. My father (deceased) is F. Lee Bailey and I know from experience that he had a number of clients who lost assets to CF, and legitimately, because they were drug dealers. I am opposed to CF, but do think you should present a fully balanced analysis.
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Of course police departments are in business to operate for profit, because they are PRIVATE OWNED CORPORATIONS and not what people think it is. They enforce by-laws, color of law, rules, regulations, statutes, codes, ordinances, policies etc. We the people have been deceived at the highest of levels. The District of Columbia was methodically named United States inc because they knew that everyone would perceive their corporation to be the Continental United States, but they are opposites. The District of Columbia, named United States inc is foreign to Americans and its a PRIVATE OWNED CORPORATION that is contracted with Americans ( constitution) to do 19 enumerated governmental services for Americans and not rule over them . They created the 14th amendment United States citizen for the slaves to have citizenship but not have equal rights, standing, status as sovereign Americans do. The 14th amendment United States citizen is in voluntary servitude as slavery and involuntary servitude was illegal. Americans are NOT United States citizens and never was, but Americans have been lead to believe that they are. Through all the chaos after the " Civil War" the evil Rothschilds and politicians tricked/ deceived everyone into servitude without them knowing. These evil beings have committed very serious crimes against Americans and need to face accountability. They mirror things, like the name United States, and also the Constitution was almost copied completely. They have mirrored our states as well. Example: Florida is one of the several states of the Continental United States, but the " State of Florida" is a federal territory. They done all this to take sovereignty and power away from Americans and put Americans under their authority/ jurisdiction. Its all fraud, but most people don't know what happened to them. Open pandoras box at www.annavonreitz.com many videos and documents to review. Learn what happened and how to correct it at www.annavonreitz.com. All Americans should want their birthright nationality instead of being recorded as United States citizens which are British territorial citizens. This is the most important information that all Americans should know, ASAP. Stop living a lie
They've stole multi- thousands from me. I asked for help and got no reply.
LOUISIANA IS THE WORST. COPS WOULD ASK IF THE CAR WAS PAID FOR.
THEN USE A "THROW DOWN" BAG OF DRUGS AND SEIZE IT. IT IS REDUCED
BUT THIS ACTIVITY WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA ON THE INTERSTATE.
@@BeckyCowanBeckysDigitalFocus thank you Becky!. It is a difficult complex subject matter to impart to other people. Apparently you and I are on the same track, I went down the rabbit hole about 3 years ago. If you take away the emotion the whole thing's kind of fascinating isn't it?.
Love your spotify! Education is key! Corruption is NOT ok. Policing for profit is not ok. Colorado would be a good example of this. We almost lost our car!
armed robbery went down significantly when police were stopped from committing the crimes of civil asset forfeiture.
Bandits on the loose that have the appearance of good guys.
Good one! Armed robbery under the cover of law enforcement😆
I see what you did there. 😂
I’m glad New Mexico is doing something right. Unfortunately NM struggles in many areas, it’s nice to hear they are doing something positive.
Arizona is the same way. Half the time the Arizona government does something good and deregulates something or stops some corrupt policy, then a month later, they do something stupId. It makes no sense to me.
NEW MEXICO IS WHERE *LUCAS and MARK McCAIN RAISED STEERS FOR MEAT to go with their BEANS..... in the 1960s*
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New Mexico is not doing anything right and the Cartel and Bill Richardson is dead because of witnesses being killed.
Slowly but surely things are changing for the better So far, only Connecticut has passed a new law. As of July 2021, police officers, there will have to pay for their own lawsuits, and related damages, if a court decides that the officer engaged in a “malicious, wanton or willful act.”For all you other folks living in other states, you need to flood call your lawmakers and demand the same
No these domestic terrorist thugs in the clown costumes need to have a citizens review board to decide whether or not they can be held liable for their shitty actions. Take the court and crooked ass judges and prosecutors right the hell out of the equation that way there will actually be accountability
@Kelly Arthur not to hard to prove because cops have gotten so bold they actually record themselves planning and committing the crimes. 🤔
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat, 1801-1850
Have a nice day.
@Larry Smith, any chance you were stationed at LAFB, TX in 1976?
There is one huge dependency for that assertion to be true: That group of men must have the social and legal standing to do so. Without that, they never rise above being the criminal class of their society.
@@ReflectedMiles In the course of time....
@@TERRY-cb2ku The Roma have been around since the 13th - 14th century in much of Europe and are now almost everywhere. Have their most rapacious elements / locations achieved what the quote asserts anywhere? Of course not, and that is but one example.
@@ReflectedMiles Yes, but even a small percentage can garner much attention. I hold no ill will but some cultures and ideologies are ......
You don't understand how people are so evil for money and power until you experienced it yourself.
The only way I could imaging to justify it is you spent all of your nerves looking for another person to believe in until you lose your last, then you fall in to maintain a slight bit of sanity. That is only the least bit excusable if that person's environment shows no signs of any goodness regardless that they are no threat and others know it. Almost one hundred percent of good people who go through this still don't snap. They become downtrodden, enslaved, or otherwise locked out of achievements by society who refuses to understand but blame them instead.
greed. if you can find someone that doesnt possess that trait. never let them go. everyone claims not to. almost everyone does.
Why be a burglar under cover when you can do the same with a badge & get away with it with the DA defending you instead of prosecuting you for cutting the same actions
@@billkgeorge
Very true
@@DieselRamcharger
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Glenview IL.. I had a Chevy Tahoe sized because the local PD decided my Colorado drivers license was not valid in their town.. I won in court... had to pay off my loan with the bank to get my SUV released.. and of course, while it was in police custody, a tow truck backed into it, and smashed the front grill and bumper.. and since it was the police, I had no recourse to have the damage taken care of, and had to take care of everything out of pocket.
Injustice reigns supreme.
They probably smashed it on purpose
So you couldn't sue the police department or the City of Glenview under Illinois law for negligence because the tow truck driver worked for a private contractor and you couldn't sue the contractor because the police won't tell you and none of the tow companies operating in the area would admit to contracting with the GPD, amirite?
@@edwardmiessner6502 I think it's worse than that. They give themselves immunity while "doing the job."
God, I hate injustice. Thats so dirty what they did to you.
Civil asset forfeiture MUST BE abolished everywhere in the US!
Let's call it what it is: robbery by law enforcement
This has been a common practice for years. Theres even schools for law enforcement to teach them how to spot lucrative and high yield targets.
Theres also many documented incidents of police targeting southbound trucks on the interstate in hopes of finding drug money headed back to Mexico. They don't care about the Northbound ones with the drugs, but a semi load of cash is their incentive dream.
They should be stopping the *northbound* trucks to confiscate the drugs and sell them themselves!!! Or are they afraid of over the border retaliation from the drug cartels?
West-Bound I-40 in TN has a very bad reputation for CAF. DO NOT CARRY CASH!
I've seen extra police patrols on interstates close to exits that have a casino. Never thought much about it but am now wondering if they are targeting the lucky players so they can confiscate their winnings. Just a thought.
Thats funny,, We call that armed robbery
THAT'S *EXACTLY WHAT IT IS ARMED ROBBERY. JUST 49 STATES TO GO.*
*GEORGIA STATE PATROL DOES SAME DAMN THING ON THEIR INTERSTATES. GEORGIA PURPOSELY TARGETS OUT OF STATE VEHICLES AS MOST DRIVERS JUST SEND IN THEIR $$ 4 TICKETS WHEN home from vacation!!*
@@howardfortyfive9676 Just like my little town Out of town or out of state. Cars. Here Washington state.
Really! It’s called a crime when we do it! Wouldn’t it be fun to be able to search their pockets and cars to search for BRIBES that we feel they’re taking “because” that’s so common in their profession??.🤣
@@christip20 Indeed and Agreed 👍 Christi P. .for Prez.. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thats exactly what it is, armed robbery by criminal gangsters.
It has always seemed to me that this entire concept violates the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the US Constitution. I don't know how this was EVER permitted in the USA. As a juror, I would forgive these victims for shooting some people.
It's communism
Amen!
ME TOO!!!
Amen right here
Yeah, when the courts refuse to protect citizens from obvious violations of their rights, you can't blame people for taking the law into their own hands.
BRAVO! Thank you so much for all IJ does.
$68.8 billion stolen under the color of law !?
And what did that lady say the average dollar amount was...? Something like 1300.00? So If we divide 70 BILLION DOLLARS by 1300.00 you'll get a SHIT TON of INNOCENT PEOPLE being separated from their cash!!!
Not even close to the actual amount just as was said if it was studied throughout all of the years and all of the states the actual amount would be way higher!
I got pulled over once and the cops dug into my pocket and pulled out my paycheck that I just cashed and it was only about $1,300 cash and he called me a drug dealer asking me where the dope is and that I sell dope, which I don't and didn't and they sat my in their car handcuffed for 3-4 hours while they destroyed my car inside and out, tore apart my engine bay and vital vaccume hoses and made it so my car won't run, they didn't find and drugs of course but they still took my money from me and took me to jail for erratic driving or something like that, even though when he pulled me over I was stopped at a red light not driving anywhere at the time, so anyways I lost my car, my money and my freedom because some sort of dirt bag wanted to Rob me on the side of the road under the color of law !? That was back in 2008-2009 or so, I can only imagine what these guys are doing to other poor people who can't build a defense to something they didn't do !?
Just a side note, they started pulling me over so much after that I think they were following me or just had it out for me so they made it a point to build a police profile they can officer security report or some shit but any way that is how they stalk and harass civil people who they don't like for whatever reason it l and now they are fine with doing it to people who speak up about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of the police !?
Probably closer to $1 trillion.
You guys are truly the front line defense ..not only for citizens but for the actual soul of our country.
It's more like rico violations committed by government .
That's what it is. All these fuckers should be in jail. Man made BS laws.
The State cannot engage in Racketeering, racketeering by definition is what a State engages in on behalf on the citizens.
A legal crime used against innocent citizens by law enforcement for government profits.
Our NM police also no longer enjoy Qualified Immunity. They really behave themselves now.
as they should everywhere
Thank you for addressing and exposing the abuse of civil forfeiture and the impact it has on innocent citizens.
The sad part is that they target $500 where it's not feasible to hire a lawyer as it cost more to hire a layer than the actual & amount
Thank you for bringing this to a more broad prominence. Civil forfeiture is government sanctioned crime. Unfortunately, we are entering an age of increasing those in power and those who are ruled. Where do we go from here?
Love to see people taking the right steps to make the right changes. Thank you!
Good job! I don't understand how these government entities got past taking of our properties without due process! What the hell is this argument that the government is making that the property is the criminal and is not subject to due process?!!
Answer is simple, they made ceasing
your s*** without due process, due process.
Because they charge your money of a crime
I will tell you how. Remember the drug war. If someone was tagged with the D word no citizen cared if the dirty D word person got fucked. Well eventually they needed more. And so they started on the civilians. How do you like it???
It is not law enforcement's job to "punish" criminals. That is the job of the judicial system.
Correctional System
@@jeffchristie-od5gu Yes, I stand corrected.
the orders were to steal the easily sellable property not just the cash
Wonder why they confiscate drugs?
@@billkgeorge Yes, then sell 'em
This needs to spread to every state... NOW
Pretty simple, there should be no cash incentive to arrest people, to go after people, cops should get paid to do their job, that's it, no bonus for more arrests or more convictions. Lady justice is blind folded for a reason.
I agree and they actually make very good money without stealing
Money makes justice blind. The more you got, the blinder it gets.
If they want to "steal", get a second job at a car wash. The customers don't care if the vacuumers keep the small amount of loose change they might find under the seats of the cars. I made a lot of money over the course of a year doing that, about $3,000 worth of coins.
And law enforcement should be based on written law, not on instructions from the politicians.
I was arrested and charge d for tresspass on my own property and three other felonies added falsely prosecuted ycso mayer az
one state? lets make it federal
When Jeff Sessions was AG, he absolutely refused to abolish it. In fact, I believe he was pushing for it.
@@onenationunderduress8994 He's a RINO socialist of the worst kind. Trump canned his ass when he finally found out.
It would affect RICO.
Nobody more crooked, than Sutter Yuba law enforcement agencies omfg holy
Badge Shattering Bastards should not.be.allowed.or to continue...
Sad thing is...states have NO desire to help only destroy. Heart issue.
PLANDEMIC LOCKDOWN PROVES THE DELIBERATELY PLANED TERRORISM & DESTRUCTION OF THE SHEEPLES...YET WE STILL FIGHT ABOUT COLOR & RELIGION LIKE PETULANT BRATS
The States are all that’s saving us from this administration! The Democratic ran states were the only ones doing destruction even though they were paying someone else to loot & burn those cities so they could scream about racism. It’s not the people, it’s this administration starting every bit of the racism and division. You aren’t paying attention!
@@randyjohnson9772
Speak for yourself, there’s no “We” that you can speak for, only yourself.
@JOY TRUJILLO
#endhatrednow
I think that's not right. States are comprised of large numbers of people encompassing the full spectrum of desires from helpful to harmful. To diminish these groups into a single sentiment is not only inaccurate, its harmful. The reason its harmful is that your perpetuating a falsehood that the young, inexperienced, and casual observer might actually believe. And within that belief refrain from taking actions to reverse the injustices that do happen.
What we say, and write, in public forums matter. We can never know how far the ripples of our words will carry. Given this truth, I say think carefully before saying things that are in and of themselves only harmful. Unless of course that is your entire purpose.
#endhatrednow
Vote them out. Any politician who won't cancel civil forefeiture should be out of office. You folks in the US elect judges and sherrifs and such, right? Them too!
A good example why qualified immunity needs to end.
Qualified Immunity is a completely separate legal concept from civil asset forfeiture, but yes, they *_both_* need to end.
This is huge. People are screaming for policing reform. This would be a great start if applied across the country.
The politicians knew about this many years ago and didn't do anything! How about a video telling us who authored and sponsored the laws in each state!
The cops did. A texas cop was shown on TV complaining to trump that a politician would not allow it in texas. Trump said give me a name......
@@lisaperal7949 Trump probably saw Civil Asset Forfeiture as another revenue stream for himself once he obtained complete power and control over the American people. Good thing that putsch didn't succeed but we're not out of the woods yet
@@edwardmiessner6502 Trump and the Texas officers were actually more worried and interested in using civil asset forfeiture to combat the out of control cartel problem they're facing in south Texas. You remember them, the cuddly loveable guys that chop people to death with machetes, traffic humans, cut drugs out of their human drug 'mules', gun down innocent people, etc etc etc
I think this is a case of trying to kill a big, dangerous, and ever growing problem using what looks to be a 'good' solution, but they don't recognize or aren't properly aware of the big problems it in itself creates.
It's like a doctor seeing a rapidly progressing disease, and using a drug to combat the disease without realizing it'll soon end up one of those 'black box' pharmaceuticals or potentially pulled from the shelf.
civil asset forfeiture is
UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
The actual cartels are government employees... When American troops and alphabet agencies are in an area with drugs, those drugs are freely available for sale in the US and the drug enforcement police do nothing.
This is probably one of the most infuriating and blatant acts of tyranny of our time. TYFYS in fighting this. You are the true defenders of freedom and public safety.
How can there be an increase in crime rates if their actions for civil asset forfeiture was about imaginary ones?
Or even made up crimes for the purpose of taking property owned by any citizen.
@@delmusingle2338 *COPPERS LOVE TO jack the citizenry and they do so EVERYDAY.*
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Its All scare tactics. The local sheriff speaks like it will be the wild west if they don't keep a heavy hand on the population and pretty much everyone buys into it.
They gotta figure out a better way to rob you and beat your life into the ground.
A few cases actually involved crimes but a very very small percentage. There is no way crime rates can go up when most of the forfeiture the people aren’t criminals or even committed any crime. Most of these people are law abiding citizens.
0:42 - I think that's an interesting way to put it: "What states can do to protect innocent people."
Frédéric Bastiat puts it this way. "The law cannot avoid acting upon our persons and property; if it does not secure them, then it violates them if it touches them."
The states only have one mission, and that is to leave us alone.
if only we could be so blessed they been stealing from hard working people and blaming it on the bad did not help the drug wars at all
@@darleneclarke8774 CIA fueling the drug traffic didn't help, either.
Keep up the good work in fighting injustice. I appreciate that you did the research showing that CAF has no impact on crime or law enforcement. It did reduce the crime of police theft.
Worse aspect is forfeiting without charging and people. Only had expensive recourse.
“... Congress doesn’t do much ...” What an indictment! If only they did less of it.
I'm tired of going to a casino. And winning money. And on my way home get pulled over and my winnings stolen by police. Then have to report my winnings to the irs. And pay taxes on the winnings. Which the police have stolen. Giving them a double wage. From now on I refuse to pay any taxes.
Deposit the money in the bank locally too the Casino have the bank mail you a debit card Prince show the money to your bank in your state when you get home that's exactly what I would do
We can thank John Oliver on Last Week Tonight in my opinion for making this known all over the country. I had never heard of it until I saw a segment of his show about it.
I'm sorry, but folk have to have been drifting around the internet (and the media generally) wilfully blind and deaf for YEARS if they never heard about Civil Asset Forfeiture before....
Police: Let's fight crime by becoming the criminals! That'll show em!
Lawyers like you are heroes.
Thank goodness for this team!
This is why even though I'm on a limited income ( social security) I make it a point to donate to IJ. Ultimately it is always we the people that defend our rights. Now I need to bug my law makers about why Tennessee hasn't followed New Mexico.
In a word. . .Theft!
UNCONSTITUTIONAL
@@missmaxwell3363 *WHEN DID OUR RULERS BECOME SS /GESTAPO LIKE? Time to saute these chuckle heads.* Show them the sharp points of our pitchforks and *GIVE THEM WHAT FOR*
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@@howardfortyfive9676 if we were organized I agree with you.
Gee! Give law enforcement and prosecutors a huge financial incentive to confiscate private property and pocket the proceeds from the shameless forfeiture; and, shockingly, no one thought this might be a bad idea. Wow!
So what about those of us who have been a victim of this practice... how to we get our restitution. the Glenview IL PD owes me about 5k in damages to a seized vehicle..
Possibly sue for remedy
Sue them for it, and if there's a local TV station that does investigative reporting of cases like this, see if they'll pick it up.
Any politician, bureaucrat, or law enforcement officer who favors civil asset forfeiture must either be a tyrant, ignorant, or both a tyrant and ignorant. No exceptions.
Forfeiture was never meant to be enacted BEFORE a person was found guilty of using property to commit a planned crime. The forfeiture should ALWAYS be used if it is proved a person did use property to knowingly commit a crime. Only then and repeat only then should forfeiture occur. It MUST be after the fact not before. Suspicion should never be grounds to acquire said property in question.
Wow! Bravo to New Mexico! Hopefully this will provide a model for other states.
Y’all should do an update on this since it’s been two years. Wish we had this in Texas
Hats off to the institute for justice .
Who allowed these laws to be put in place in the first place?
These laws have been around for at least two centuries but the application of the laws changed in the 1980s. Originally items were seized civilly when the owner of the property was not immediately available for arrest, think the owner of a pirate ship or a smuggler. The items would be seized and for a certain amount of time if the owner didn't show up the items were sold. If the owner did show up s/he would be arrested for the crime. Today police seize the property in front of the owner without charging the owner with a crime and just say it was gotten thru criminal activity. You now have to prove the items were not gotten thru criminal activity. 1. It's hard to prove a negative. 2. Since it is CIVIL asset forfieture you are not entitled to a lawyer. 3. The average amount seized is around $600. Now how many people are going to pay a lawyer $2000 or more to get back $600. You now owe more than the item is worth. Unless you're interested in setting legal precedent ( and rich) you're not going to press the issue.
In the Timbs v. Indiana case Justice Clarence Thomas said he would like to see a "Due Processe" case involving civil asset forfeiture, Timbs was decided on "Excessive Fines,"
Democrats.
@@ajkendro3413 thank you. America law is even more confusing than British law.
@@holliwood3226 it wouldn't surprise me.
@@TheRatlord74 Actually it was revamped under Republican presidents. The eighties were Reagan and Bush 1.
Tremendous effort thank you.
Most of the laws are there to benefit the government, and the cities that abuse their citizens.
They also abolished qualified immunity in NM. NM is a great example of how a swift and strong reaction to bad police can clean them up and restore faith in the government quickly.
Animating principle of the Magna Carta and the American Constitution. Extremely important reform everywhere in America.fabulous work your organization is doing, Bravo!
There has to be an injured party before there can be a crime everything else is policing for profit
What rocket scientist thought stealing from thieves would teach them not to steal? The police dabble in criminal psychology but their opinion should not influence policy where they have a vested interest. IMO
15:15 LOL she says "innocent owners" but you can tell that the state is bent on extracting value from its residents... just try pleading innocent in a court and listen to the judge laugh at you
When she say 68 billion is low ball she is correct. Blue line thugs are allowed to confiscate cash and it is up to them to say just how much the ''haul was'' without so much as issuing a citation. Anybody see how that was ripe for abuse or is it just me?
This issue needs to be looked at under a microscope. Police take, take, take and then they auction it off.
i love how she studied it for 5 years.......keep up the good work
If the authorities truly did their jobs and actively prosecuted the guilty, then banning civil asset forfeiture (i.e., taking money or other valuables without any charges' being laid on the funds' original owners) would NOT affect how criminals were dealt with, and so disallowing it would NOT "be a gift to criminals" or make it harder for cops and courts to prosecute them, since if they were found guilty, they would have to give up their ill-gotten wealth in any case. The only difference is that the authorities were simply not bothering to investigate the supposed criminals or crimes; they instead were merely taking the people's money and going on their merry way. So while this atrocious "shotgun approach" may indeed have sometimes just happened to result in the removal of funds from a number of the true criminals, these criminals were often not being prosecuted or imprisoned after their money was confiscated, and the innocent folks were being wrongfully relieved or their legitimate funds.
Might want to focus on the resulting economic boom (compared to before), in tourism and other industries that suffered very highly under highway robbery style civil forfeiture (since out of state people are targeted and also people who are on the road a lot). Tourists want to be SAFE from such things, and so do people who work with them!!
Since TN has a very aggressive CAF thing going on, when I travel, I specifically AVOID TN at all costs.
Thank you IJ!
YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE POLICE WOULD NOT STEAL YOUR STUFF AND KEEP YOUR STUFF JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! DUE PROCESS!
Stop yelling. CAPSLOCK is not your friend.
This video needs millions of more views
Thanks for your work need a federal version of this law an to end drug war
I live in New Mexico and I'm shocked they did a reform tbh.
Here's a thought. Money seized is false arrest. Money has rights the same as a paper corporation has right as a person.
I didn't know that NC had a recent reform on CAF. Policing and prison issues are big ones for me, I'm surprised I missed that, but it's certainly good to hear.
Aren't these clearly eighth amendment violations ?
4th 5th 8th...
As someone who has been a police officer for almost 15 years, I will say I have never agreed with asset forfeiture. I like the way New Mexico has made it part of the criminal process because it makes no sense to seize property from someone who is not criminally convicted of an offense. The only thing I do not agree with on New Mexico's process is that it goes into the States "general" fund. I think if a forfeiture occurs it should go into a fund that specifically assists communities like a disaster relief fund or a fund for shelters, etc.. Too often states abuse their funds and I feel something in the "general" fund could easily be misused.
At 4:41 there's a warning bar, presumably from Adobe Premiere Pro, "Analyzing in Background"; presumably from the warp stabilizer but you don't need a warp stabilizer when the cameras are stable already.
A prime example of why we need to rethink policing in general and invest those resources in people and sustainable infrastructure, and develop more effective means of understanding our species and our impact on the environment.
I blame every police officer that took an oath to the constitution, then violated people's rights. I blame every police chief and city attorney that conspired to continue violating people's rights despite a state law that clarified the practice as illegal. Your lawsuits are fine and are a great help, but these people need to go to jail. They broke the law and stole private property. Individually they suffered no consequences for what they did and will do it again as soon as they think they can get away with it. The taxpayers paid the bill for their crimes.
New Mexico just moved up on my good State list
'increase crime'. no, it just shifts the criminality to the copthugs.
THEN the 'increase in crime' happens.
Keep Pressing!!!
I'm not a big supporter of defunding the police, or a lot of the anti-police sentiment that goes on these days, but civil forfeiture should always have been illegal, and turned many policing agencies into nothing more than collection agents for the State. Civil forfeiture is one of the ways we got to the point that so many people are against them. This is the future they chose.
Civil Forfeiture *_prior to conviction_* is an abomination and needs to be abolished nationwide.
When police departments make over half of their operating budgets from forfeiture and traffic fines there is something horribly wrong with the system.
Moving all forfeited proceeds out of the jurisdiction that commandeered them ensuring that they have no ability to profit from the forfeiture should be the way things always are.
TY for sharing I enjoyed your content 🙂
In Crook County, Oregon the sheriff's office takes cash from you when you are arrested, and upon your release gives you a debit card that comes with a fee to use. They are essentially stealing your property. I'll bet they're making money on the deal. Someone should look into this.
CAN I LEAVE EARTH AND LIVE ON A BETTER PLANET?
You're gonna need a *ship ton loada supplies to last you the REST OF YOUR LIFE Slim. Whose got THAT KINDA DOUGH???*
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Stop yelling. CAPSLOCK is not your friend.
I actually found one. It's several light years away. At the speed of 70,000 mph I can be there within EIGHTY FIVE YEARS. I even built my very own space craft.
Now I know that at my age I won't make it there. But I can live very LUXURIOUS in INTERSTELLAR SPACE for the rest of my life.
Fighting crimes by perpetrating crimes NEVER works!
What I DID observe is how Civil Asset Forfeiture has earned law enforcement a deep, and probably irreparable distrust, and hatred, which is unfortunate.
As I see it, Civil Asset Forfeiture falls under 18 USC § 241 and 242, as well as other serious violations of constitutional rights.
Exactly what is a bill of attainder?????? How can a statute, Title, Code, or ordinance like forfeiture stand when it is what it is, a bill of attainder.
BILL OF ATTAINDER, legislation, punishment. An act of the legislature by which one or more persons are declared to be attainted, and their property confiscated.
The Constitution of the United States declares that no state shall pass any bill of attainder.
The above is one issue. Who'd have thought that further answers are answered in the Uniform Bonding Code Section 5.1.
When an individual needs to get from one place to another and is willing he calls a taxi. He contracts for taxi services. If an individual needs a book keeper he contracts with a book keeper expecting book keeping services. When an individual hires an attorney he doesn't know what he's asking. Attorneys attorn. Section 5.1:
''Attorn - Law:- To agree to recognize a new owner of a property or estate and promise payment of rent to him.''
''Attorn - Law:- To turn over; to transfer to another money or goods; to assign to some particular use or service.''
''Attornment: - In feudal and Old English Law - A turning over or transfer by a Lord of the services of his tenant to the grantee of his seigniory.''
......... ''Therefore, in English Law attornment was a method of guaranteeing an unequal protection of the Law for the rich and the poor, but one which was at least tolerable for the poor. It was a "peaceful" maintenance of the class structure. An attorney's role in this system was to provide the ceremony of the acquiescence of the poor, and to do so in such a manner (modus operandi - MO) as to preserve and maintain the class structure. The peaceful unequal protection of the Law. It is eminently clear that an attorney's role has not changed. Attorneys practice attornment.''
''Lawyer:- A person learned in the law. One who understands law and who loves law for its capacity to rectify the evils of society. One who professes and practices "Liberty and Justice for all," and therefore the equal protection of the Law.Lawyers "practice" law. The U.S. Constitution provides over thirty guarantees of the equal protection of the law. A lawyer supports those provisions of guarantee; an attorney opposes those provisions. In America, a lawyer obeys the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land. An attorney does not obey the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, technically, a lawyer is bondable and an attorney is not bondable. State bar associations, which deal with both extremes, must therefore rely upon "self-bonding." ''
Is this why the Founders banned titles of nobility in both Article 1 and the Thirteenth Amendment..... the title of ''officer of the court''? How to solve many many issues such as forfeiture? DEPORT ALL AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION members and never let them come back....... as was the intent of the Nobility Clause.
Judges......... I mean corporate administrators cringe when I'm invited to their corporations PRIVATE BAR COURTS, BAR = British Accreditation Registry and all who join become registered foreign agents.
As a common law Republic where statutory law must live in harmony with both the common law and valid uS Constitution how did we even get to asset forfeiture?????
"No one shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process."
Seriously?
@@bamahama707 yes
Here in Clovis NM your quote does not apply. I'm legally blind and disabled and I have been stripped of almost everything I have worked for 30yrs for. Not one ounce of due process. 4 years of litigation abuse.
@@weezathegreatkrahn3433 It does apply. You must be wealthy enough to be a target. Try the Institute for Justice. I'
Did any funds go directly to police sheriff pensions?
Nope right to their pockets... Buying margarita machines and such...
Just checked, as of 7/21/24 Missouri mostly limits it hard. First you have to convict the person and the show the prospective item/cash was connected to the crime. The hole is if you innocently lend something to someone and they commit a crime with it it's on you to prove you're an innocent bystander to get your stuff back.
Very frustrating, again a good idea went bad. Has to be a middle ground. If you are conducting illegal activity out of your house - BANG - it is gone. But if I rented a car or a room to someone who then conducted illegal activity - without my knowing or profiting from it - how can that be my loss? How can they keep the property for someone either not charged or not convicted?
Go get them I.J.
There is a very limited reason for civil asset forfeiture. Police pulled over a car that happened to be a rental. Upon searching the vehicle they found a large amount of money under the spare tire. Neither the driver nor the passenger claimed the money. The police appropriately seized the money. Now the rightful owner of the money can claim it if they can identify the money, ie amount, types of bills proof of vehicle rental. That is what CAF is supposed to be used for.
Second example, police seize my money and say it was gotten thru criminal activity, they must also arrest me criminally since they are alleging a crime. Now they must prove me guilty before the money heads to anyone's coffers. This is criminal forfeiture and how any private property should be seized. If you don't convict me then the money is returned to me.
Any so called law in violation of the Constitution is null and void.
Stealing a citizen's property for no reason is an unreasonable seizure under the Constitution.
Any so called imitation law enforcement officer doing that is committing a violation of the Constitution which is a crime and also violates their Oath of Office which is also a crime which means they should be immediately arrested for armed robbery which is a felony. Any officer resisting arrest can then be subject to the same treatment as any other person resisting arrest up to and including being shot.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I served over 20 years as an LEO with a number of years working as an Undercover Narcotics Officer. When these laws were first created, we were like WOW. We can hit the bad guys where it really hurts. But then the bad guys got wise and turned to other methods to launder money from illegal activities. So now you have this law and no one to go after. The training now gives officers the mindset that no one should have large amounts of cash on them except criminals and in their minds they get a huge attaboy or attagirl for seizing large amounts of cash. I now work as an Anti Money Laundering Specialist. Where people that have cash businesses such as laundromats, car washes, bars, small eateries, get into trouble is structuring deposits to where it appears that you are avoiding filing a Currency Transaction Report or CTR. Any time you deposit or withdraw over $10,000 in currency banks must file these reports with the treasury department. So until the laws change don;t do things like making several cash deposits under $10K i.e., $9,400 on Monday, $9,200 on Tuesday, $9,000 on Thursday. Filing a CTR is no big deal. It is when you try to fly under the radar and the bank's AML group files a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) and that gets the attention of the IRS, DEA, FBI, etc. If your income is legal, just play their game and don't be concerned about making large deposits.
Banning Civil forfeiture is a no brainer. I'd like to also see 100% of Criminal forfeiture go to a victims fund, if the money seized was actually from a crime, there must be victims of that crime, the money should go to them.
Keep up the good work 👍
Good for New Mexico.
I was passing through Texas. Got pulled over, cop grabbed my phone out of my car without my permission which was open because I had UA-cam music on. He saw a crypto wallet and demanded I let him in it. I just laughed and said lawyer Everytime he asked me a question from then on. He let me go after 3 hours, they brought a dog out, couldn't find anything as I had nothing and pulled me over for 2mph over the limit (no that is not a joke, TWO OVER). They tried for about 30 minutes to get into my crypto wallet (which had nothing in it as I moved it to cold storage anyway). I will never go back to that state again. The corruption police departments have this day in age is unbelievable.
As a supporter of IJ causes, I would like to see you do a fully balanced reporting on the outcomes of civil forfeitures. You presented those low average forfeitures, but did not offer any analysis regarding legitimate forfeitures; money taken from true criminals. My father (deceased) is F. Lee Bailey and I know from experience that he had a number of clients who lost assets to CF, and legitimately, because they were drug dealers. I am opposed to CF, but do think you should present a fully balanced analysis.
If prosecutors were put in bad position,, why didn't they forffited the assets of politicians? Why civilians only?