What’s Happening In Manipur? | Rami Desai & Dr. Bimol Akoijam on Abhijit Chavda Podcast 29
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Professor Bimol Akoijam teaches at the Centre for the Study of Social Systems, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. Earlier, he was with the University of Delhi and the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi. Besides being a scholar-activist, he is also a filmmaker and theatre enthusiast.
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Timestamps:
00:00-0:19 Recap
00:20-18:59 Originators of the Manipuri language
19:00-28:58 History of Manipur
28:59-36:06 Connection between Manipur and South East Asia
36:07-1:04:14 Initiation of Manipur’s problems
1:04:15-1:25:23 Policies after 1947
1:25:24-1:45:26 The “Poppy angle”
1:45:27-1:54:01 The SOO signed in 2008
1:54:02-2:26:16 Meitei & Kuki disarmament?
2:26:17-2:41:25 How to fix the Manipur conflict?
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I'm a naga from Manipur, and I don't support to any violence or communities. I've seen through the communal fights between Naga & Kuki and Meitei & Naga in the past. However, I agree to what Dr. Bimol said about the anger of meitei, I've never seen them so angry/aggressive before like this time. I believe the situations would not have been escalated too far without provocations and reasons, on both sides though.
And to religious fundamentalists -- this is NOT a war based on religion Hindu or Christian or Muslim or any other religions. It is between communities. Please avoid aggravating the issues by propagating or derogating any religion. There are already many people death and suffering within our friends, families, and neighbors.
Pray for peace in Manipur without being bias to any communities.
Bro Which naga tribe u belong I just want to know
He is confuse Naga...His mother might be from meetie
I want peace and it's far better than violence, but this time they cross beyond the limit , Meiteis never been in this state of anger so far , we have been provoked for many times and always kept silent but this time the matter is different, they tried to divide the land into two and unfortunately no one is taking serious to defend or help manipur (our motherland) even Indian government, I think it's a duty of everyone who lives in manipur to retaliate against kukis . That's why I came out to fight and sacrifice my life INSTEAD OF BEING AN AUDIENCE because I love manipur, I don't want to see manipur into 2/3 pieces. Just imagine the consequences if meiteis doesn't take the responsibility and ownership of manipur, as a manipuri I must fight to save manipur coz I LIVE IN MANIPUR AND I LOVE MANIPUR.
We need more liberal voices like you brother....
Past is past
Meitei they are good 🎉
Stop dis drama
Let's people of Manipur people live free❤
Meiteis have shed blood to protect the territorial integrity of Manipur since ages. Those who have not shed blood, they want to sever it. Meiteis will not allow it. That's very clear and it should be cleared to the other community too. Shouting at Jantar Mantar may hide the truth for sometime but very soon world will come to know who created the conflict and why.
😂😅yeah yeah and found an independent Kangleipak 😅
Tribals should be released from from the grips of Meiteis
One immigrant detected 😂😂😂
Playing victim card by spreading propaganda is the thing that kukis inherited from their ancestors. Fabricated history of kukis will never make kukis an indigenous people
Meitei too immigrants foreigners from Burmese stil meitei live in Burma
@@lhingneotouthang4400like that kukis should live in Burma. Why u r coming in Manipur.
This was thousand times better than any news media outlet's discussions, monologues, article or any news item on the ongoing issue in Manipur and its roots.
TRUTH is a RARE commodity in mainstream Indian media which needs urgent decolonization!!
Same with courts & many other Nehruvian era institutions who often refuse to speak the truth!! They even refuse to think & act as native Indians i.e people of this culture & land!!
Tears comes to my eyes when Professor talk about "hand bite by mother to son or daughter when they left home for work". For non-meiteis - its significance is - I (mother) cut & throw out all the danger in ur way, come back home safely.
It is usually performed by a mother for son or daughter but when Professor explain in the retaliatory attack any elder of no relationship bite the hand of voluntary defence member, I can't stop my tear 😢😢. It has very deep emotional attachment for us (Meiteis). 🙏🙏
..W.Bengal (among Hindu Bengalis) has this tradition too bro.
We still follow as taught by our elders. That's the essence of our tradition. Proud Meitei always till my last breath ❤❤
My mother still does that 🥰
U don't have to be meiti for that. My mom does that and I'm Bengali.
@@riyasarkar2511It doesn't say anywhere that you have to be a meitei to do that. Be welcoming and begin appreciating someone's moral values. Every group has a unique set of beliefs and practises. Do you see anything wrong in it? It was a statement and someone was feeling proud of their tradition.
My heartfelt gratitude to Rami Desai, Dr. Bimol Akoijam and Abhijit Chavda for this wonderful discussion.
This is a fight between the one who want to save the Manipur and the one who want to destroy Manipur.let’s pray for Manipur , Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Very rightly said.
@@JamieVai maybe if u get out more, you will see similar words for the same meaning in different parts of India. Although i do not favor and have never engaged in such activities.
😅😅what are you going to save we don't want your 700 sq mile Kangleipak
Please gain some Knowledge. Your upcoming future generation will laugh at u. Manipur area is 22,327 square.kms. Pray for Manipur , jai Hind 🇮🇳
Well said
I truly believe that the Meitei community which is indigenous to the land must be given justice. This cannot happen that they cannot purchase land in 90% of Manipur while the kukis can own any land
@@habibi_1988You better keep quiet we know very well you converted dogs behaving ...
@@ligithanghal4042 yes if they are practicing and Right wing hindus I will give .......
@@habibi_1988 ok brother I understand. You tell me what solution you want from this conflict
@@ligithanghal4042 Now here is a story Once there was beautiful kingdom somewhere in Himalayas mainly of 3 Elephants, Dogs and Hynas ruled by the Elephants and they always rule with wisdom and virtue ...suddenly Foxes came with a cross and ask elephant to surrender so the can taste there blood and plunder there kingdom but Elephants refused so they ask dogs and hynas for the same. They ask them to join the fox gang as they all are same and they imprisoned the Elephants and demean them and rewarded dogs 15%& hynas 35% the 90% land for there obidience and gave them the cross and humiliate Elephants with just 10% land ...... Now Elephants just asking for there rights and these traitors are barking and biting them so an angered elephant just killed a bitch which was even immoral in the eyes of Elephants so they expelled him. But that gave a oppurtunity to dogs ,so that they can pull there victim card and carry on their injust demands....But I am with Elephants.....so should be you too.....
Gullible people don't understand the importance of unity...
I have not seen a single video like this on what is actually happening in Manipur from every perspective, from history to present, the suggestions for way out. Thank you to both speakers and organizers for putting out such show, particularly when media narrative is half baked and even biased.
🎉🎉😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂
Enlightening discussion. Giving us back the pride to be born as a Manipuri and also a reality check of how we have distant ourselves from our great civilisation and culture in this whirlwind of westernisation.
A sincere appreciation from a simple youth who is at awe of how great our society has evolved over the years.
The seeds of destruction of the ancient civilization was sown by the brits, & watered by the successive govts.
Yes we need to decolonize and be proud of our roots.
Evil modi cannot do good. He enjoys death and destruction.
😂😂you have already distance from so called great civilization when you were converted forcefully by the Kings to Hinduism lol
All communities of this great land- called Bharat have great stories of their own to be told.
Northeast India is an elitist ethnographic zoo, as are other tribals/minority areas throughout India including kashmir. This is a hangover from the British era meant to limit Indian influence. Indian influence is natural as you can see in southeast asia. The tribal areas are economically stagnant areas, the tribals are hostile to outsiders and blame them for all their problems as they are misled by foreign religious organisations. ST have a poor reputation when it comes to work ethics. They don’t have any incentive to work and develop their states when there are reservations that don’t reward merit. Same BS since 1947 meant to keep Indian citizens out of tribal areas with all kinds of restrictions on rights we take for granted in rest of India . All tribals in northeast are not natives, they are migrants from burma.
To the issue at hand, as long as there is no sincere intent to repopulate and integrate tribal areas into the mainstream; do not expect any peace. By this I mean that all Indian citizens should have the right to live whereever they want for work, studies, business, love etc and have freedom of religion and economic rights. Only then will these areas thrive. Obviously Indians generally are not agressive in asserting their rights, so more rowdy castes would have to repopulate with guns first. Fire with fire.
No Western countries, no secular people talk about the suffering of Meitei people. No human rights for them...
But all kukis are backed by evangelical western countries. They have exclusive access of HR victimhoods.
Because they see only religion while Hindus are busy in seeing secularism
This is eye opening. Like many others I was also blaming meties for current violence. Kukis are getting all the sympathy while Meties are being vilanised when in reality they are actual victims of wrong government policies.
Idk why ur replies were all erased. After 3 months i came again. Even if u r from other state the mob violence with support from meitei leepun and arambai tenggol was very2 violent. U r not only targeting kuki, but also mizo(their blood relatives) and other zo tribes.
@@zuninah7545😂😂😂kukis mezo 😂😂😂😂 hui
Forever grateful to this podcast none of the Indian youtubers news channels are giving the history behind the current crisis.Many self proclaimed "Neutral UA-camrs" are just presenting facts already in public domain. This needs translation in 22 official languages. My humble request to people from different parts of India is make this video reach out to common masses in your mother tongue. May Manipur be at peace. Jay Jagannath.Jai Hind
Abhijit Chavadaji is a big sensation. True gem of "Bharat". This is what podcast means. Such a privilege to watch his podcast.
Exactly...his videos are great and clear
I agree ,Abhijit chavada is one of the few gems ,India is proud of
Evil modi cannot do good. He enjoys death and destruction.
@@neelakrishnavkl😢9tsea😂 total amount bhlp q😢q 2:26:17 tak
I have started to fall in love with History & anthropology after watching your videos. This video is my personal favorite. Thank you for doing this.
This is the only Podcast that is 100% logical and true to the ground.
@@btaralte5824burnol laga le
Kukis have been playing victim card all along. Manipulating facts. Their aspirations threatens the National interest of India.
Because they know how to reverse and useto reversing what they did since the first day of burning gym. at..chura.... pur.
Truth will always prevail in the end do not worry
@@wlsarpsngfcet1452 Myanmar was India until 1937????.... this proves that u r indeed not Indian. India came into existence only in 1947!!!.
@@wlsarpsngfcet1452 Don't compare British India with present day India. Manipur was not even a part of India back in British days. So kukis r still immigrants in Manipur
@@sick717 u savage r talking about ethics???🤣.... The right ethics will be to not infiltrate into a country illegally.
Abhijit ji, you have the respect and gratitude from the whole Meitei community. Thank you 🙏🏼
I'm from west bengal. Here present rulling party TMC is trying to make narrative against Meitei , they are doing all these to appease vote bank . But we are also countering... We all HINDUs are with you! Vande Mataram 🧡
@@frommars-sl8ivEveryone is trying to make Meiteis look bad. Thank you for support 🙏🏼
Every true Hindu of Bharat is with Meiti community . Be united because any government will not do anything for Hindus we ourselves have to protect our culture . love from UP🙏
stay strong... m from north india..we support you..we love our meities people n their culture..stay strong..dont give up..pray to sanamahi...he will protect you
Thanks for giving us hope...
Finally show is here which we are waiting for last few days ...thanks abhijit for bringing up our two favourite intellectual on the same table with you..both Rami and Dr Bimol are our favourite...we love both of them from the bottom of our heart .❤❤❤❤
As a Bengali.... i support only indigenous manipuri and they should protect their land..
like meitie kings protect their kingdom.
@@DipakBose-ge1hm all are indegenous
@@DipakBose-ge1hm IT WAS POLITICAL...
@@baidde5110no all are not indigeneous.kukis are from myanmar.ther were running frim myanmar and requested manipur king(meiti) to protect them by giving refuge in manipur.meitis helped them but today the immigrants have 90 percent land of msnipur whike the natives have 10 percent that also they are sharing with kuki while kuki dont wabt to share.
@@greenocean9039, Kuki are both side of border, just like Kashmiri, Punjab, Gujrathi are both side of India and Pakistan. Every day our soldiers fight with Pakistan terror.
When illigal emmigrants refuge come to Manipur in the name of kuki chin or zo kuki or any kuki tribe they get st status and more benifits from Indian government.. that means indian govt is richest country in the world helping illigal emmigrants wow, and if main land Indian wanted come to Manipur they need to pass ILP ,, an ineer line permit wow outstanding wow nice governance hamara bharat mahaaan
I first thought Kukis are innocent here but now after listening this damn I was so wrong
What's happening in Manipur now is the outcome of India govt's KUKI APPEASEMENT POLICY for electoral gains in favour of BJP and control Meitei insurgency as Indian security forces particularly Assam rifles failed in the counter insurgency operations. Mention-worth incident is loss of 18 Indian soldiers in the Lokchao ambush along Imphal-Moreh NH in the early part of Mr. Narendra Modi's assuming the office of PM of India and another shocking ambush in Churachandpur killing an army officer with his wife and son.
I have also lived in Imphal and I have never seen such violence.
Infact it's a romantic evolved culture with art, craft and people's friendliness.
It's a mini India too.
Drugs ke karan roits 👍and illegal migrants
Still the whole world know and still elligal immigrants, so tire to hear those words everyone tire to blame such words
@@lhingneotouthang4400 foreign conspiracy and china and america missionary fund
Kaise india ashant rahe 👍
Waha kuki Christian vs mathei Chrishtian fight
Maithei hindu lived capital side area 🙏🙄
Save and protect and follow real native culture tradition rituals all tribes Mathei kuki naga other tribes
Well said. During my college days in Chennai decades ago i got to a few Manipuris. Their genuine hospitality will make a mark of any person. They were soft spoken and never reacted disrespectfully to bias and bigotry.
May God heal, bless and keep Manipur.
Tears comes to my eyes when Dr. Bimol Akoijam explains Ras Leela, first time i am proud to be a Meitei Brahmin😢😢😢
Prayers for the safety of all in Manipur....ur culture is the most elegant and graceful....the problem must be solved somehow.
@@geetanjaleesaikia1894thank you so much❤❤❤
Don't be proud just because you were born in brahmin family . Stop putting yourself into one of these made up categories. You have no right to be proud of being born brahmin if you aren't well educate scientist doctor engineers are real brahmin irrespective of their caste. Just becoz you were born brahmin , you don't get qualified to be tagged as brahmin and there is nothing to feel proud of . Let us just call ourselves Sanatani , and we can feel proud and lucky to have been upholding Sanatani views and its values.
@@fenimorefillmore5322yes you are right because Brahmins are the minority with no benefits from government 👍
@@fenimorefillmore5322don't worry, I am not proud in that sense. But why are you attacking me? Wtf!!!
Sir bimol has spoken my heart out, this is what every meitei wants the indians n the whole world irrespective of religion to listen to, great sir bimol n the team
Very correct discussion. So, every Indians who don't have correct knowledge of Meities, can opened your eyes.
How I wish many more of our mainland Indians get enlightened from whatever our experts have to say....
Love you sir Akoijam Bimol and maam Rami.
Their is just one India...
No mainland no sideland
Love manipuris from benaras 💕
First stop using mainland word just say rest of country or something along that line mainland implies we are different
I say the same thing to those who use words like north india and south india ,just say northern states southern states
@@chillone2847❤👏
Please don't use word mainland, we r one
There's no such thing as mainland. Bharat belongs to you as much as it belongs to me. I know the previous dispensation has given the North eastern part of our country a step-motherly treatment. it's high time that we change it.
💟 From Haryana 🇮🇳 🚩.
One of the finest discussions on identity politics and roots of ongoing violence in Manipur. Thanking both the speakers for bringing out the history and politics boldly and honestly.
Northeast India is an elitist ethnographic zoo, as are other tribals/minority areas throughout India including kashmir. This is a hangover from the British era meant to limit Indian influence. Indian influence is natural as you can see in southeast asia. The tribal areas are economically stagnant areas, the tribals are hostile to outsiders and blame them for all their problems as they are misled by foreign religious organisations. ST have a poor reputation when it comes to work ethics. They don’t have any incentive to work and develop their states when there are reservations that don’t reward merit. Same BS since 1947 meant to keep Indian citizens out of tribal areas with all kinds of restrictions on rights we take for granted in rest of India . All tribals in northeast are not natives, they are migrants from burma.
To the issue at hand, as long as there is no sincere intent to repopulate and integrate tribal areas into the mainstream; do not expect any peace. By this I mean that all Indian citizens should have the right to live whereever they want for work, studies, business, love etc and have freedom of religion and economic rights. Only then will these areas thrive. Obviously Indians generally are not agressive in asserting their rights, so more rowdy castes would have to be repopulate with guns first. Fire with fire.
@@Joyprot.touthangkhak thuiii kuki lair lair lair lair kuki r immigrant n wild community people's
@@Joyprot.touthang😅nj
Being a Buddhist i have great love for Hanuman ji❤about Manipur hope it come to peace
Buddhism and Hinduism is part of sanatan dharma so both are part of our culture.
Buddhism is the offshoot of Sanatan Dharma, No doubts after Ram and Krishna he was the greatest son of Sanatan Dharma..
Ek hi baat hai hindu budh sikh Jain all are under same tree
@@PiadasEyer Buddhism and Hinduism are both part of Sanatana Dharma, the British divided it up into "religions"
Buddhism and Hinduism not a separate religion or culture its same yes they have their own scriptures but thats not mean that two r different in Hinduism 1000 of different scriptures we have different regions in bengal region we have some bengali scriptures like manasa mangal some kind of different pachali what you only see in bengali region other region infact you can't heard about that thats not mean we bengali r different from other hindus some china planted monk nowa days try to separate that Hindusim and Buddhism r different but fact is different or larne se pehele root jaan lena zaruri hai why kourava pandavas wat flighted because of power and Kingdom they forgot their roots who r they and where they come from i would say its kauravas who forgot everything and try to everything from pandavas ek sath shear k rehene k wajaye they tried to take everything from them because of whos influence it's sakunis influence they was brainwashed by sakuni because of that brainwashing kauravas forget that pandavas r their own cousin they have blood relation they have same DNA they have same ancestors they forgot their root and creat mahabharat war that's why know your roots is important
I am in tears listening to my state's history.
Are u also meitei sir/ma'am??
@@yadavrahulsureshchandra8062 Yes bhai, yes. 😭
@@khpk5479 We are very sir for all this stupidity but I assure you we all Hindu are with you and mera personally I don't care about anyone except meitei my brother and sister ,we are with you sir and also in pain for all this 😔😔😔
@@yadavrahulsureshchandra8062 much love ❤️❤️❤️. Hope we survive. Jai Hind!
@@khpk5479 Don't worry u will my brother,u are not alone we all Hindu are with and love u respect you ❤️❤️
😭😭😭 thank you, Abhijit sir, we are forever indebted.
Why one cannot watch such a beautiful discussion when you can watch a TV-Show for hours.....
Great Job. Thanks @abhijitchavda @Ramidesai @bimolakoijam for producing such a productive discussion...
We Meiteis fight for the truth. At the end of the day Truth will always win "SATYAMEVA JAYATE".
Protect this man at all costs !!!
He has solely done more good for the Indians than India has done throughout it's entire exisstence.
Wow!Prof Bimol and Rami on your show. This is what we need. We need some truth among the bull crap of KUKI propaganda. They have claimed themselves as the lost tribe of Israel. So why don’t they go there? They have even asked for help from Israel.
Not all Kuki
@@ssam7384vast majority of rice bag converts and their masters with money power are!
Mainstream media too should cover this in this manner rather than noisy debates where half the points raised are lost.
But are they really a lost Israeli tribe? Or have they been brainwashed by the xtian missionaries? Like the Muslims are made to believe that their ancestors were Arabic or Turkish or whatever. And we know that's just rubbish.
I think both Clans are native to Manipur. It's just Kukis have been made to believe something else by certain motivated groups.
Kukis r funded by Church from West n Europe. Look at the chain of events right from the start of the violence. U will get to know. Kukis r playing victim card minority card Christian card tribal card.
You three are the perfect trio for the discussion to the topic such as this. Out of so many people from news channel and social media, you three are the most sincere analysts on the present crisis of Manipur. 🙏
Indians need this kind of intellectual anthropologically enlightened talk.
In India it's a simple strategy , first torture majority polpulation and when they backfire play victim card. Also whatever happened with those women was horrific but the way Kukis are using that horrific incident and inviting UN in this whole internal matter of India is very doubtful.
A 17 year old girl has been kidnapped along with her boyfriend since 6th july..During this clash can we even imagine what happened to her...the 2 dead bodies has not been recovered...i hope govt officials punish both those monsters from both side...THEY shouldnot act like just because there is no viral video from their side they didnt do any wrong ...
Everyone wants vote and that is where it ends.
@@v.kipgen8732yes they are making use of this incident
This is what I truly believe..sometimes I wish I wasn’t a majority in my own state
They also invite to Isaeral and America for help for being christian and claiming them the lost tribe of Jews
Great discussion and above all I love how abhijit sir has a good grasp on the pronunciation of Manipuri words..its impressive
Are u also manipuri Meitei?
Dear Hindus of Manipur, remember u guys are the last surviving Hindu ethnic group of North East , foregin missionaries ( especially USA and European missionaries ) have converted almost entire North East.
So fight for ur survival.
Fight with blood and Iron.
Whole Indian subcontinent Hindus are with u guys.
Form a collective group and work, don't do lone wolf job.
Even vote as collective group.
Become a vote bank , than no political parties will ignore.
@@umbrellacorporation5723Whole leftist gang is supporting kuki t*rrorist I wish other state Hindus enter Manipur and f*ck all the kukis.
They are not HIndu. They are Tibeto-Burman that converted to Hindu fairly recenlty, like the Thai-Ahom of Assam.
@@umbrellacorporation5723they are salai taret not hindu , only few are hindu , some are sana mahi, some are bamon
I never knew what is/was happening in Manipur and Mizoram. But now all cleared out. Abhijit Chawda Sir, you are a persons whose podcasts I wawatc more and more. And because of you, I started watching Geo-Political stuffs, India, western world etc. Thank you Sir.
A very enlightening and informative discussion. Great respect for Dr Bimol Akhoijam . You are such a clear thinker and communicator with in-depth understanding and knowledge. So proud to have someone like you in our community.This discussion is a must watch by everyone, especially politicians and the media. Thank you Abhijit Ji for bringing this and also Dr Rami for for your in-depth knowledge and insights. Truly an eye opener for all.
I don't know why but the moment I started watching the introduction to this podcast and all host+guest combo, I automatically hit like and my dopamine levels went 📈. Absolute joy...
I bow down to Meitei Hindus🙇🏻♂️ This time Meitei Hindus have retialated pretty well.😎😎😎. This is the actual reason why the so called Seculars/Liberandus etc are in panic mode and reporting just one side of the story 😂😂😂
Jo vaha logo ke sath ho rha h umeed krti hu tumhare sath n ho.
@@vishakhayadav2305 Bhagwan kare Aisa kabhi kisi ke bhi saath na ho 😞.. Magar jb Tak sirf Hindu mar rhe the kisi ko koi problem nhi tha... Unka zameen hadap liya Jaa Raha.. Unke teerth ka naam badal ke unko waha jaane se roka ja Raha. Convert karaya ja Raha.....Aakhir koi kb tak sahega..😑😑😑
The violence is started by your hindu Meitei by spreading fake rappedd news.. keep believing what you see in media.. what else can u expect from A media who only talks and support about hindu... I want to ask you why there is no kuki Person sitting in this interview.. it shows how u discriminate others.. let me tell you why even after 1 year there is still violence is only becuz of your hindu Meitei and their Fake news and propaganda...
This is the real voice of manipur. We support you sir and madam. I am very thankful for your real explanation.
You have shown your maturity Prof Bimol
manipur people are the most nice and genuine people i have met
@@Mission2Saveone poppy spotted 🤣
@@Mission2Save Don’t ever think that the entire world is full of corrupted devils & demonic people, there are good spirited samaritan who emotionally support and helping Meitei Hindu… Kuki has thousands thousands of supporters from everywhere but Meitei hindu has few good people . Remember good & righteous will always Win 🙏🏼
@@lalboi6136refugee spotted😂
@@bomcaflin7342 no matter how much supporters poppy gets, they will always end up being refugee poppy.
@@bomcaflin7342yes good and rightouse will win always the black will always be black and white colours will be always white in colour the whole world know and see now slowly slowly hope that Manipur will become peaceful, but the truth will reveals once
Enlightening. Hope the Meities get equal rights, peace prevails, and the perpetrators are punished.
Thnk you brother
We need to raise voice together for the truth
Feel really sorry for Manipur especially the Methai people. Violence will not help any community .
*meitei people
High time we Indians take pride in our great great civilisation.
Always support the native maitai community long live Manipur and its native vashinava culture we know Manipur for its manipur classical dance ras lila and for Shankar dev.
Again you are communalizing the issue.
@@Alpha-gw5ws the incident was already communalized- we are exercising our right to support our fellow Hindu brethren because fools like you won't.
'native'
Lmao , it came in ,was it the 18th or 17th century .
We the meiteis of manipur have our native religion . Hinduism was bought in by priest mainly from bengal at that time
@@parithingbaijam1712 and yet 12% of you have converted to Christian cult.
@@Alpha-gw5wswhy not😮
Conspiracy and help migrants by missionary
I support our meitie brother nd sister stay strong we are with you
Mr angomcha Bimol akoijam is an epitome of knowledge n is an asset of the meitei community! Hope such intellectuals should serve for n inside the state of Manipur n enlighten the upcoming educators! Thanks Abhijit sir for ur pods! Support n love from my side.
This was an amazing podcast. So many questions have been answered and explained. Kudos Abhijit and the panel.. Thank you!
I really really want my brothers and sisters from this beautiful part of my country to stop this current madness and join the national developmental narative. Please!! We are all with you.
Manipuri cultural value is of another heights. Thank you Abhijit Sir for having this discussion ❤️❤️❤️
“Raasleela” incident described by Hon. Professor was sheer goosebumps!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Felt the same here
this is what i wanted to share it to everyone. Everyone should know the root cause. Just because of one video which was leaked people shouldn't blame the whole community. I am totally against that action but people should not get blinded by that incident and come to conclusion. If people are finding this as biased interview then there is no hope for the future of this country.
dude work on your narrative making for God sake ,believe me your meitei side of story is not popular , whole left media with international media is blaming only meitei community and regarding you guys as aggressior,
kuki narrative is prevalent in most media , where are your intellectuals and media people , this gentleman is exceptional but he is only one ,
Northeast India is an elitist ethnographic zoo, as are other tribals/minority areas throughout India including kashmir. This is a hangover from the British era meant to limit Indian influence. Indian influence is natural as you can see in southeast asia. The tribal areas are economically stagnant areas, the tribals are hostile to outsiders and blame them for all their problems as they are misled by foreign religious organisations. ST have a poor reputation when it comes to work ethics. They don’t have any incentive to work and develop their states when there are reservations that don’t reward merit. Same BS since 1947 meant to keep Indian citizens out of tribal areas with all kinds of restrictions on rights we take for granted in rest of India . All tribals in northeast are not natives, they are migrants from burma.
To the issue at hand, as long as there is no sincere intent to repopulate and integrate tribal areas into the mainstream; do not expect any peace. By this I mean that all Indian citizens should have the right to live whereever they want for work, studies, business, love etc and have freedom of religion and economic rights. Only then will these areas thrive. Obviously Indians generally are not agressive in asserting their rights, so more rowdy castes would have to be repopulate with guns first. Fire with fire.
@@rakeshbarman3486
Yes, the information warfare from the meiteis side is lagging behind. We were not prepared for this.However, all thanks to this conflict for waking the meiteis up. Now, I have a purpose to my life..many people have started having purpose in life due to this conflict
@@rakeshbarman3486I think it's mostly because the meiteis being the majority in the state share this common sense of pride in them and they don't generally get into this sort of attention seeking, victim drama thing. But yeah I do agree with you, they should definitely work on their narratives. What's really surprising is that they were the ones who got attacked in the first place on 3rd of may during the kuki "peace" rally but almost none of their spokespersons seemed to care enough to mention all that in these interviews. Hundreds of thier houses were looted and burned down in ccpur, torbung and moreh by the kukis who were in the rally on the very first day, the day before the Meiteis retaliated with an equal force in the valley on 4th. It was reported all over the news, some old meitei folks who couldn't run and stuff were burned alive inside their houses. The kukis had this issue with the government but they had the audacity to attack a whole community residing in thier areas.
I think this is the only channel where our beloved kuki brothers and sisters didn't come and dropped a comment..
There are only the concrete and undeniable facts in this discussion and i am sure no-one is dare to come and argue..tq to all the panelists..
Great sir I am proud to be a true Manipuri Meitei
We are with Meitei people who are in a hopeless situation but we have belief problem of Manipur will be solved. Shree Krishna is with manipuri people ❤
Though many political parties are preparing narrative to harm meitei. But we are United! Hare Krishna Hare Ram
Vande Mataram 🇮🇳
Meitei’s will get justice❤
Do meiteis have gaudiya roots?
love you my sanatani brother from Haryana. ❤❤
India is with you❤
Do u worship krishna?
I've been discussing about the conflict with my Manipuri friend since the day it started. And yes there are so many elements to it but as it has been said in the end that it has to be settled for the goodness of the whole state and also for our country and to avoid future conflicts too. I pray for the peace of Manipur 🙏
2 hrs and 41 min is not boring at all. I love it.
NRC must implement in Manipur ASAP! Outsiders are creating problems n Manipur is burning now. Let’s pray for Peace 🙏, Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Pray for Naga and Kuki also 😮
We must pray for all the Manipuris who is the owner of the land. And gov must take strict action against illegal migrants who came from burma( myanmar ) chin kuki and from Bangladesh. They r the one who is creating problems in Manipur. Then peace will be in Manipur soon. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
@@pynshailanglynser7580 What is the meaning of "Let’s pray for Peace"
if nrc is singh and kumar will placeless
@@pynshailanglynser7580they are already getting support from outside so that shows their priority and loyalty.
Full support to meitie hindus ☝️
All hindus of the world are with you ⚔️⚔️
Please spread the word 🙏🏼 Thanks for your support ❤
Really?! It is the Hindus only who derogatorily address people from the NE as chinki.
We support meiti
@@endurance24601 only christians
I am from meitei community from Manipur. Often people specially the so called kukis try to portray this conflict between the Hindus and Christians, but the fact is that it's all a lie. Come to Manipur let us go back to the history you will curve out the truth. It all came from the idea of long plan zo nation. The Meiteis were just delivering our duties of protecting our motherland.
From time immemorial meiteis were trying to tie a firm bond between various communities residing in Manipur. But one community failed this togetherness. They do not have a sense a belongingness and a patriotic mindset towards Manipur. Please do not bring in religion in this conflict it has nothing to do with this conflict. People were using religion as tools to this conflict. Still there are various churches still standing even in the heart of Manipur. There had never been a religious cleansing activities in Manipur.
Kukis are calling meiteis as fishes in a pond and they can fish them out anytime .....this is actually becoming true ... High time to save meiteis
Please add HINDI SUBTILE. The whole nation should know this. Thank you @Abhijit Chavda and to both the speakers.
Such a calm and peaceful discussion without any false narration but plain simple facts.
Thanks maam Rami Dasai and sir Bimol for explaining our truth.
1:46:30 When Oja Bimol says about his mother biting his palm for protection, I felt tears. Love you, mom.
This is the most authentic portrayal of the real situation of Manipur with proper context that I have encountered. Thank you for this enlightening session.
I think this interview will help a lot of UPSC aspirants too to understand the present conflict and violence also the history of Manipur and the northeast. Thank you Abhijit sir for bringup this important topic . The duration of the interview is worth it. Your video will be watch in coming years and years from students to USPC ASPIRANTS to politicians AND other leaders too . Saving this video for future reference . Thank you Madam remi and sir bimol for your contribution effort and time to bring up the compose beautiful interaction . Much appreciated .
Upsc babus created this mess in the first place 😂
Absolutely.... interviews will have much question on this subject
UPSC pushing the policies is the reason NE of India is burning and Nagaland majority got converted to religion of an failed apocalypticist preacher who wanted his god Yahweh to destroy the world because Romans were ruling Israel and Judah and their messiah(anointed king) was no authority in front of Roman ambassador.
Great discussion sir…always enlightening us🙏🙏
Video posted : 47 min ago.
Video length : 2 hr 42 min.
Wah bro..😐
@@WHITE_RAPTORexactly
@@WHITE_RAPTORdiscussion doesn't need to be live always it can be posted or uploaded afterwards.
After Kashmiri Hindu, we are seeing genocide of Hindus ( Meitei) from Manipur and Mizoram and our central government again doing nothing 😢
Nope.. You are partially correct... The meitei Hindus have retialated pretty well..😎😎😎 This is the actual reason why the so called Seculars/Liberals etc are in panic mode and reporting just one side of the story😂
This kind of discussion should be held often so as to make aware the northeast cultures to the mainstream Indians.
India is made of micro cultures. They are just as mainstream as rest of Indians.
Mother biting your hand on departing, feeling the gravity of this ritual ... I'm sobbing like a baby, very touched by this gesture ... pure divine feminine energy to protect you by biting any danger, safe returns and my love travels with you
Most lovely,beautiful, peaceful and meaningful discussion. If discuss happens always in this way there will be peace very soon 8n Manipur. Very thankful to Abhijit and two resourceful persons Rami madam and Akoijam sir.
The way Sir Abhijit conducts himself in the role of the interviewer is a learning for all the Indian TV anchors
yeah lol dats what i inspire most about this guy...
Yes that makes the viewers easier to understand the issue 😂
@@sakshimokashi here 💵💵 take it,it's fine I got u..
Bimol Akoijam is brilliant.👍 Would like to hear him more.
Sir bimol, abhijit, thagatchari. Manipur gi maramda khanna neinabagidamak.
When that video came I out
I thought we are finished we Meitei who’s story I use to head that we wore so strong n conquer many lands will go to extinction already in 6% land leave 4% cause it’s loktak lake will vanish away
But today not only listening to the conversation but who ever support in comment section I heartfelt thank you so much for uplifting my believe
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Never ever lose hope.
You are not alone.
Fight back.
Good explanations. From Kerala. A lot of wrong news is spreading here in Kerala 👍🏼. The very big and dangerous role players who mislead tribals here are the missionaries from Kerala. Nobody addresses this very big fact yet!!
Kerala noxious weeds are creeping up to all parts of India to endanger the innocence of people of native religions! Lucrative offers and temptations are their tools now unlike oppression and threat of the past! Global hegemony is the objective!
Please share this video as much as possible 🙏🏻
Kerala xtians are worst of a kind.
It would be great if you referenced this video in your circle discussions… apart from credibility it takes the message to a wider audience. Thanks much from AP ❤
Well you can see how in UK they discussed the manipur issue as Christians being targeted purposefully... These abrahamic people are pathetic to their core
Very informative. For someone who has lived in central india most of my life..i realize how little i know about Manipur and the other NE states.As a teacher I failed by not learning and passing on this knowledge to my students.
Thanks to the Team. Mostly this channel of Abhijit Sir for bringing up the untold truth. For the past few days we were hopeless and living like a dead person. Thanks for pouring water in our dying soul. Thank you very much. 🙏🙏
Jay Shree Ram. May God save Manipur.
God won't save it, our Leaders will
@@arpan9937not god.. it's the British and cong
Dear Hindus of Manipur, remember u guys are the last surviving Hindu ethnic group of North East , foregin missionaries ( especially USA and European missionaries ) have converted almost entire North East.
So fight for ur survival.
Fight with blood and Iron.
Whole Indian subcontinent Hindus are with u guys.
Form a collective group and work, don't do lone wolf job.
Even vote as collective group.
Become a vote bank , than no political parties will ignore.
Meiteis are brave warriors but mentally harrassed by the social media platforms which gives wrong information to the whole people. We are helpless and don't know how to get rid of it. Those brainless accuses of the viral video have been captured and demand for severe punishment from Meitei side. But no one even try to understand our feelings inside. We are almost die in people eye.
Proud to be Asomiya Brahman (GANAK). we are with Manipuri Sanatani people.
Can we get over brahmins and terms like that ?
@@sadenb what do you mean? Why should I cover my identity? As a Sanatani and Brahmin I'm proud of my identity. What's your problem
@@Unknown_DeshBhakt Agree with you
@@_Shubham_K Thank you. I don't know, why do these racists hate us.
@@Unknown_DeshBhakt As long as you associate with caste, the Hindu community will never be united.
As a Manipuri I am broken completely on how the development and facilities like education and business have completely stopped
During past years Manipur had started developing and i pray to God this conflict resolves asap
I would really love to see Peace prevailing again
But Meitei have suffered enough to finally say “enough is enough “
Koubru hills and thangjing ....are where the original meitei tribes came down from to the valley in the ancient times .....I think out of the seven clans one clan came down from these hills and settled in valley and later formed the manipur as we know of today .....that is the reason these hill areas are considered as sacred places where our ancestral divinity resides
@@Djsmt2250did you come here after reading’Zalengam’, your made up history book?
@@oneandonly5558oubru, Thangjing and nongamijing hills have been engraved in the history of Manipur for centuries. Zalegam which came out in 1998 is a beautiful dream. It is more of a fabrication. Can you even call it history? It is a mission by the KSO militant group. The very foundation of a khun/cave copying the Naga concept of same origin from a tree (which have been there for decades) speaks volumes of how it is more of a militant ideology unifying the Kukis against the rest of the Manipuri citizens be it Nagas, Meities or Meitei Pangals.
Its so disheartening that such a beautiful state of our country which represents our true ethnic culture and prosperity is now being crushed like a dirt and our own people are the cause behind all the chaos around the state, and central and litreally no in general is willing to take accountability and authority. So bad, we failed our own people!
@@arpan9937right 👍
@@arpan9937 Yes! Someone who said it!
*Illegal Rohingyas(#1) and Kukis (#2) most arrested people in drugs cases!* They *illegaly do mass plantation of different types of Drugs in the Hilly areas* and Jungle areas where it is hard to find them and Eastern NE is the ideal place for that too AND *you need a important thing for that : LAND! A LOT OF LAND!*
Now they are rioting and mass genociding the Hindu Meiteis to get them out of Manipur.
The whole Eastern part is a huge *Golden Drug Cartel Triangle* where till now only ₹16+ Billion worth of Drugs is caught. Now imagine the magnitude of it that wasn't/couldn't been caught.
*Save Meiteis, Save this beautiful culture and deport the illegal migrants quick as soon as possible!!!*
And also the armed malitia from Myanmar to support Kuki
@@arpan9937who is refugees, in Manipur there is no refugee, if you call someone else refugees you really don't know the meaning of refugees based less even the court declared your thoughts and blameless words
You should know who is the main cause why Manipur is burning and become death velly because of whom don't ever blame always kuki are refugees and immigrants foreigners this not the main cause study nicely, who did and why
This is what happens when Abhijit Chavada, Bimol Akoijam & Rami Desai, the three legends met together...... Huge respect for three of you for bringing out the facts but the Kuki brothers would rather blame it as fake or lies etc...etc... Etc.... 😂 it's their nature so just ignore them....
Dr. Bimol should be recommended to central government to help solve the crisses. He has convincing points
Please save us, India. Please, we beg of you. Save the meiteis. We bring gold medals, recognitions, culture, we pay taxes too. We are true #Indians. We need your voice, dear brothers and sisters.
we are with you ..don't think you are alone...we are supporting you...meitie youth should be active on social media..try to interact with people through social media n you tube..try to tell others about your history n culture n all...
@@seeker7090we need your voices. Internet ban have silenced the majority of Meiteis and we are being dominated by Kukis who have uninterrupted internet access through myanmar based sim cards and networks.
Why fear when Abhijit sir is here
Dear Hindus of Manipur, remember u guys are the last surviving Hindu ethnic group of North East , foregin missionaries ( especially USA and European missionaries ) have converted almost entire North East.
So fight for ur survival.
Fight with blood and Iron.
Whole Indian subcontinent Hindus are with u guys.
Form a collective group and work, don't do lone wolf job.
Even vote as collective group.
Become a vote bank , than no political parties will ignore.
No matter what, we hindus are with you our meitis brothers and sisters!
@@leethewsie8384they are not Indians
@@leethewsie8384 what divide?
@@nothingnesstonothingnesswho are not Indians?
@@andreamessiasgomes7118 the ones who have openly announced that they have got support from outside in terms of ammunition, army.....
first time I hear about Hindu words
This is a very beautiful discussion about the Truth of Manipur ❤
I think i need to clear some clutter! Here's the Historical truth of Manipur! You heard about Sanamahism their anacestrial religion right!...btw do you even know that the clan collections and groups together have their ethinic roots back to south-eastern Tibet they migrated here to this place to the valley and built the Kingdom of Kanglipak and they practiced their religion until 17th century in the dawn of 18th century King Pamheiba converted into Hinduism and mass converted all the people and renamed the kingdom's Name to Manipur(influenced by some people). Also during the britishers there were missionaries who preached GospeL. So, the Manipur you see now Demographic situation has been changing since centuries.I wish the best for you brother let's not get swayed by the narratives and perspectives of other people but let's seek, read and learn history through our own careful observation with sound reasoning and logic! Rising from every bigotries and dogmas! Let's Vision New India. A world of Social, political and spiritual harmony. Not delving into toxicity of punya and pitru bhumi rather just one emotion"bharat mata","fellow brethren let's envision a world of true and sustainable peace. Brother!
As a meitei i feel so proud of Sir Bimol and i feel like all my suffocations are gone now . I hope whole world sees this and knows the truth behind this riot🥺 i want peaceful existence like before. Im eagerly waiting for the day this riot ends.
When we meetei bring laurels they appreciate us but when we r feeling oppressed and suffering every individuals is calling us barbaric. Indian has failed us. We have never feel more alienated from India as of now. They appreciate myanmar refugee more than meetei life.
As a Hindu, I can assure u that all aware Hindus are with our Meiteis Hindus. We support u guys unapologetically. It's the biased secularism of India, Indian govt and Indian left media are ignoring u.. but Hindus are with u all. Don't generalise whole India. Hindus of any caste and/or region are victim to this biased version of secularism. 🙏
Don't feel alienated.
It's the Mainstream media that is against you.
It's the secular state that is against you.
Majority of Indians are in your support.
Keep fight on the ground. Don't care about the narrative.
You are not barbaric, you are just like us. You are one of us.
we citizens are really sorry for how alone you feel and that we're unable to help out. however, you are as much my brothers and sisters and as much INDIAN as all of us. not only in medals but also in times of crises. we pray for and send love to you all.
We Hindus are with you. As usual the leftist politicians, sickular sold media both Indian and intl is the problem for not giving true information.
in fact, this has brought out the history of north east which we never got to study and understand. we are, as you are and have every right to be proud of Meitei the native people of Manipur. we are PEOPLE OF Bharat. we are not divided, not ashamed of our history. every person born in our land who retains our culture across millennia, we are proud of who we are. that we didn't give up and convert.
An eye-opening interview.. We r proud to have you Sir..Got to learn so many new things..
True.
One incident related by Sri Bimol about capturing of their ancient temple , changing its name & forbidding Maiteis from visiting it is all too familiar strategy. This was done by the Portuguese in Goa too.
@@desicat3563 u goan too? I Wanna kw more abt this..
I request any educated kuki to please listen to this so that their minds and heart are clear🙏🏻
I have never seen such kind of deep, erudite and authentic discussion among the so called self-styled kuki scholars so far
Our own laid back attitude has bought this situation. Seems Congress and Nehru still not ready to stop amazing us with their variety of blunders they did in the early years of our independent nation. Eye opening discussion, Hats off to these eminent speakers.
Modi's blunders will keep us troubling for 100 or 1000 more years. I am saying this not bcoz I love Gandhi or Nehru. Modi lacks sensitivity in handling Hindu interests. He has added insult to Meiteis' injuries.
I appreciate the depth Abhijit brought of the real issues, and root causes. ❤
Its very true what Mr. Bimol is speaking. Violence started around 3pm in churachandpur while in valley it started in Evening.
Dr. Bimol's explanation of Manipuri dance, hills, the culture is very enlightening and I feel so ashames I didnt know anything for so long
Distortion of Bhartiya history by ( radical leftists,westerners,Hinduphobes ) creates such violence, therefore it is important that we rewrite & fix our history.🙏
Agree
Exactly. Some external forces have converted ppl. Ppl have freedom to practise religion. But they are fed the wrong kind of ideas all bad things about hinduism. Diwali not allowed to celebrate.
Agreed