I think is frustrated love... It's more like a crush... I don't doubt that he do weird awkward things while looking in to Brady's posters on his bedroom and bathroom.
I don't think so - he's just respectfully critical. I hate Brady way worse than this - he forgot the part where a Vikings fan through a plastic beer bottle at him. Brady's reaction was soooo high-'n-mighty.
@@christianmorales8445 it was a big choke, he was twice in first and goal against the bucs and couldn’t close the deal. He was once again at the 7 yard line against the 49ers and choked.
@@raulgonzalez1892 Rodgers didn't play the absolute best sure, but that mf did as much as he could've done. You cannot blame him and only him for a loss that had many miscues that wasn't his fault. 2, I would advise you to see the other videos and stats that put into perspective how dominant Brady's teams have been considering his offense team has scored 13 or under twice in Superbowls and won. The niners game this year he played bad, though he was once again not the only mess up nor the biggest issue there. You are picking and choosing just him out of many mistakes and also not recognizing the defenses he is playing against, they are still good despite how powerful the offense is. This year was bad yeah, but overall, he is not a choker and i'd advise you to go and watch ever single playoff game and name one where he was the biggest problem in them. Sure he could've won in 2014, the second kap 9ers year, 2020 and 21, but he still should've won those without mistakes made on defense or special teams. Watch them all and then come back and really tell me that he was the actual reason or most of the reason for the choke
@@Thebucs14625 not that good, the buc defense was way better than any of kirk defense, plus the motherfucker had so many top receiver that year it was almsot unfair.
@@Zz-lp8yr When Kirk signed with Minnesota, he inherited a defense good enough to carry their team to the NFC championship game. He had that defense in their prime and couldn't bring them deep into playoffs during those 2 years. I've been a Tampa fan for a long time, and I can tell you with certainty this defense wasn't nearly as good until Todd Bowles came in. And yes, Brady has played with studs in Tampa, but are we gonna forget during Kirk's time in Minnesota he's played with Adam Theilan, Stefon Diggs, Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson? It would be a crime to overlook the talent he had around him as well.
Yeah that’s how he wins so many Super Bowls and play off games he is always playing bad teams wake up idiot , quit being a hater of a person who made the most out of the talent , like Larry Bird , slow can’t jump but oh wait he was a winner , because of the thing between their ears , for you that’s a brain by the way , you and Barry can go play with each other now 😂
"After Drew Brees, Brady had the second most efficient season among NFC south quarterbacks over the age of 40 who attended a Big10 School" *IM FUCKING DEAD HAHAHHAHAA*
I also think it's valid to point out the one year he had to go on the road for his playoff games was the pandemic year with reduced or nonexistent crowds negating the home field advantage almost entirely the one year he didn't have it.
@@ptulip Apart of me wonders how Malcom Butler felt after getting that game winning interception in superbowl 49 and then hearing everyone suck off Tom Brady afterwards.
@@ptulip would you rather get credit from the media who wouldn't care to know your name if you weren't a NFL player, or from the QB himself along with your coaches and other teammates? His peers speak highly of him on personal levels hell I even remember Brady giving James white the truck he won for being Superbowl 51 MVP because he didn't think he deserved it.
@@kingrodney441 that is cool. Also, I bet all the NFL players know exactly what and why Brady gets undue credit for. AB eventually fell out of line and started talking about Brady in a more honest way but everyone else seems cool with it. IMO Having Brady as the face of the league has made as many great moments as boring ones. And if you’re his teammate, having Alex Guerrero there to give you his designer drug is a big bonus 👀
@@tornadoofsupercell there may not be a great QB in the history of the league who never got undue credit. It's hard to give credit to all 53 players along with every member of the coaching staff along with the front office along with the training staff along with the chefs and field technicians along with medical team and the janitors and so on and so on that helped the team get a win. It's much easier (even though it's unfair) to hand the credit to the most popular ones like the QB and the head coach. If we really cared about the effort and accomplishments of the entire franchise then we wouldn't play fantasy football and glorify the star players as much as we do.
@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs thank you for this, I truly needed to see or here someone else say this instead of every talking head acting like Brady and all pocket qbs are worse and limited to systems
@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs Not every player, some coaches have their system & pick talent to work that system vs what works for the player. Ideally you will pick a "system guy", but not all do.
The thing about the bucs 2019 season is that Winston threw for 5100 yards... imagine his numbers with 10 interceptions instead of 30, he would've won MVP
How can you disprove when you are only talking facts? Best team FG accuracy, top 5 defense, worst team FG accuracy against, best starting field position, most ST/DEF return TDs… don’t even fight it anymore, the dude is destined to win.
@@rydermccall3590 You're telling me Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be able to capitalize on the advantages mentioned above? Give me your dealer's number because he's hooking you up with some good shit.
@@richgerow3472 Minus Mahomes, all of those are historic chokers. Your coked up ass really just included Drew Brees, who will go down as one of the worst post-season performing QBs in the Hall of Fame lmfao
As a life long Bucs fan, I can’t stand how it’s “Tom Brady’s team and a couple of ball boys” Edit: Don’t get me wrong I love having him as my quarterback and he is no doubt the goat, I just wish the media would give the rest of the guys on the team the props they deserve
Saw one game earlier this year where the announcer kept talking about how Brady was great and it was all thanks to Brady and even went on to talk about how Brady is why the running backs were so good and Brady single handedly is why the defenders were so good. It was the most disgusting nutlicking announcing I've ever heard in my life.
@@SIRGENERALGRABBER don’t get me wrong I like having him as my quarterback, and he played a big role in the Super Bowl run. I just wish the media, commentators, and casual fans alike referred to the team as the Buccaneers instead of “Tom Brady and the Bucs”.
@@waffleman2998 LOL! Black people and every other race can be racist too! Try going to Brooklyn, NY as a white dude just minding your business and let us know how there is no racism there.
13:23 That incompletion is still the only play I remembered from this game. Summed it all up for me. Mahomes doing his damnedest but being let down by his team.
Yeah, I get it, all Tom Brady has to do is not mess up completely, basically he always has the best teams around him there to bail him out and because his team always wins the game, his bad play does not get blamed. Meanwhile, the other great quarterbacks like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and etc all are the real reasons their teams even make it to the playoffs, their performance elevates in the playoffs, but their teams are not the best so they still lose & people blame them.
Replying to original comment: Because those QB's eat up more salary cap. Excluding this year, Brady averages $12.5 million a year. Let's see other QB's average yearly pay ok? Brees: $13.4 million. Rothelisberger: $14.8 million. Eli Manning: $15.7 million. (Not a typo, it's actually Eli Manning.) Peyton Manning: $13.7 million (Again, not a typo. Eli made more per year than Peyton on average.) Matt Ryan: $18.7 million. Phillip Rivers: $14.2 million. Aaron Rogers: $15 million. I just listed off the top 8 highest paid QB's of all time and Brady takes less money than all of them. When you get Brady for a discount year in and year out (I mean hell, Brady is better than Matt Ryan all day, every day, and is on average $6 million a year cheaper) you can afford to surround Brady with higher paid players. Whatever you say he can't do on the field he makes up for it tenfold in other places where players are too selfish to give it all up. No wonder the Falcons will forever be haunted with 28-3 when Matt Ryan is the most overpaid QB ever. Take away that $6 million extra and I promise you they wouldn't be haunted with 28-3 forever, and it would take a ring away from Brady. 2 birds. 1 stone. (Can't wait for the "Oh but he married into wealth. His wife has more money than him." Even though he is his own person and his wife's wealth has nothing to do with his own personal success, and not to mention at $12.5 million a year he doesn't need his wife's money anyway.)
@@hindsightburner5633 A lot of the stats you use actually demonstrate that Brady has, in fact, gotten much more help from his defense than other quarterbacks. For instance, his 2-3 record in playoff games where his team allowed 30 points. Much better winning % than the others, sure, but it's ridiculous to say that Brady isn't helped by his defense when his defense has allowed 30 points in 5 out of 45 playoff games while Marino and Favre's defenses allowed 30 points in 13 out of 42 games... in an era of lower scoring! Rodgers and Brees each have more playoff games with 30 points allowed than Brady and they have fewer playoff starts COMBINED than Brady has by himself. The regular season numbers reveal the same trend. Brady has a much better winning % than Brees when his defense gives up 30, but Brees has nearly twice as many games in that category. The Saints defense gave up over 400 points four times in a span of five years during Brees' prime. Brady NEVER played on a team that allowed 400 points. If Brady had 81 regular season games and 13 playoff games where his defense allowed 30 points, his winning % in those games would be a lot worse.
@@hindsightburner5633 And if you didn't find that point compelling, here's a note on his playoff stats that really puts into focus just how lucky Brady is to have the postseason win % he does. Brady has 17 postseason starts in which he finished with a passer rating below 80, nearly 40% of his games. He is 11-6 in those games. All other QBs since 2001 are 43-122. When you remove games where both QBs finished below 80, effectively isolating the sample to games where one QB played below average and the other didn't, Brady is 4-2 and other QBs are 16-92. Brady has had several just plain bad playoff games (including at least one, arguably two Super Bowl wins) where the other facets of the team bailed him out. When Rodgers/Brees/Favre/Marino/Manning had a bad game, like any QB other than Brady, they lost.
Barry calls TB a product of NEs system In 2020 Brady goes to a new team with a losing record in another conference during a pandemic with no offseason or preseason threw 40 TDS scores 30 points every playoff game 3 on the road and 2020 somehow validates that narrative. LMFAOOOOOOO
Gc c08 this completely ignores the 40TDs a change from 7-11 wins the lack of offseason and preseason. But 17 out of Tampa’s 23 scoring drives were in Tampa territory. The NO game doesn’t take away from everything else.
@@confusedbutfriendly9612 Let's Be Honest Brady Wasn't All That Great Against The Saints or Packers They Won Both Games Because of There Great Defence and Btw Bucs Had 3 Ints Against The Saints
@@elliottpierce9823 I'm talking for just this game. Its a theoretical situation. A thought experiment. Whether or not gronk or AB would join the Mahomes led Bucs before the season started is irrelevant. And it would have been a huge problem if Brady had the Chiefs O-line. Lets say Chiefs Brady does get the ball out in 1.5 to 2 seconds from the snap every play like your comment suggests so he can avoid the demolition crew that was the Bucs front 4 ripping through the paper thin Chief's O-line every play and not get sacked. He can't scramble because he's Tom Brady and 40+ years old and that rush will get him in 2.5 seconds or so. Without being able to extend plays and let longer routes develop, the Bucs defense can basically pull up their safeties and DBs to 5 yards off the ball and play tight man coverage because with 2 seconds to pass, no receiver is getting past 10 yards before Brady tosses it or goes down. Not even Brady can pull a TD pass out of his backside under those circumstances unless a turnover puts him on the opponents 9 yard line. On the other side though, Bucs Mahomes can take a nap behind the Bucs O-line (and admittedly poor pass rush of the Chiefs). Have you seen what Mahomes can do with 5 seconds? And even when a rush does come, Mahomes can extend that play to 7+ seconds and somebody is gonna be open by then. He would pick apart any defense given that amount of time, and now we are right back to my original comment. Either way, with the Chiefs new and improved O-Line this year, we'll get to see if I'm right. I'm not saying the Chiefs will be 20-0 this year, but that offense (that should be able to run now as well) is going to be SCARY good if that front line gels. Mahomes with 5 seconds to pass on most plays is going to be a fireworks display every weekend.
I personally will give Brady his props because he deserves it, you can say Brady has great teammates that get him wins, but last time I checked Brady isn’t a bad QB and American Football is a team game.
@@williamli6200 Barry puts together 10 minutes of Brady throwing screens and short passes even though he led the league in average depth of target, he's reaching and always has been. He acts like every QB in the league doesn't throw like 10-15 of those a game, and few of them do it as consistently accurately as Brady does, Wentz who was Barry's QB couldn't hit dudes 5 yards away anymore lmao
@@HorseshoesInFannypacks it’s crazy how the game of football is a 11 on 11 game but because there is 43 years old qb on the team all the credits go to him
Replying to original comment: But if his defense is running great and hold the other team to like 10 points, are they bad risks? If he's up 28-3 with five minutes left in the 4th (and he has been a few dozen times in his career) is trying out play live for the first time a bad idea? I'd say no. That would be the time to give something a true test. Worse case scenario is the play totally backfires, score is 28-11 and he gets serious again. I mean Brady is not the Atlanta Falcons.
Because BradyTards don't know how to form any argument besides "7 rings duhhh". Barry just laid out idiots like you who want to give Tom all the credit for their title.
So Drew Brees is not overrated and have 4 championship teams and didn’t make the playoffs? Rodgers isn’t overrated when he had a 15-1 where he lost at home to the Giants, Losing 4 NFC Championships and not making the SB? So Brady is just sooooo overrated huh?
@@ATP2317 Forgot the defense were scoring all those points. I remember when the Pats D made that insane comeback in the superbowl against the Falcons. For a defense to score 25 points in ~16mins, insanity.
@@ATP2317 Yeah his defense carried him when he came back down 28-3 in the SB or when they gave up the Tyree catch that ruined the 19-0 year or like when they gave up 41 points to a backup QB & BB choked away another title. Or like when Belichick was 5-13 in NE before TB. Or like when Belichick's defense gave up 38 points to Manning in the AFC title game........
When his “luck” is so consistent that you expect it and are not surprised when it happens. Then maybe it isn’t actually luck, but leadership. It’s a known fact that he’s a head coach in practice and he recruits as GM. So the greatness of his surrounding cast has a lot to do with him making them great.
@@williamli6200 it's still luck nigga Brady the Goat but you also can't deny luck like c'mon the tuck rule and throwing the ball at 1 shit that shit is luck bro 😂
@@williamli6200 That Malcolm Butler interception wasn't actually a lucky break because they anticipated that play. If you watch the Patriots' road to the Super Bowl they had practiced on that same play because the Seahawks usually run that play to success.
Overrated or not the Bucs would not even make it to the playoffs had their QB still been Winston. Brady even in his 40s has shown to be a massive upgrade over Winston in his physical prime.
Thats not his point tho, his point is that everytime brady faces a team in the playoffs they magically fuck up, he never wins vs a team that actually puts up a good fight and if he does he loses.
You are right. Tom Brady is always lucky. His whole career is lucky. QB's like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees was way better than Tom Brady. It seemed like every play and penalty went Brady's way. And it all started with Drew Bledsoe breaking his ribs and then the tuck rule.
He’s right. Time and time again people try to call him the goat when he chokes in the postseason over and over. Tom having the best teams doesn’t make him the greatest of all time. He has had more top 10 defenses than Rodgers, Brees and Peyton had combined. The media never gives the appropriate amount of credit to defenses even though they are ultimately more important to winning Super Bowls than a great qb. Brady has benefited from this his entire career and he gets all the credit.
The same people who complain when we dig deep and make cases for Jordan to not be the goat tell us that Brady is the goat when he is an average qb I’ll admit that he has good leadership but that’s it
It’s funny, as a Brady supporter I use to be annoyed with these videos and the more I watched them, the more they were funny to me, but now after watching this one, I just feel sad for u guys, how you’ve put all your football credibility on the line just to go after one man who consistently makes you lose bets and arguments, why do u do this to urself, this video is laughably inconsistent but I’m genuinely asking, why don’t u just come over to our side and appreciate greatness, Brady signed for 1 more year, so he’s just got 2 years left and then he’ll probably retire. Why don’t u just let the hate go and appreciate the greatness for the next 2 years, most of us Brady supporters are tired of winning everything now anyways.🤷🏾♂️🤝
Idk man, I'm a Vikings fan but I think Brady is really fucking good. Sometimes being the best QB is more than throwing a million yards and a million TDs. Brady has proven time and time again that he is the system. He makes the right decisions most of the time, he lets the pocket protect him instead of rolling out (which partly explains why he's usually healthy). He's led the league in TDs 4 times, led the league in passing yards 3 times and has led the league in passer rating twice. He has won the MVP 3 times. But you're right, totally overrated lol.
Great qb compounded with equally great defenses leads to success. Most of the other great all time qbs haven't had the same quality of team around then the way this guy constantly has had. Brady is great, but not the Goat. I highly doubt if he was put in other less friendly qb eras that he would have anywhere near the success he's had these days. To me the goat means they'd be great in most eras which Brady wouldn't
@@zeeski7454 I don’t see how you could logically say that. If Brady played in any decade prior to when he started, he would have played in a salary cap-less era. He would have had super teams year after year with both offense and defense being elite. Playing will Belichick allowed him to be on teams with good to great defenses but he rarely even had amazing offensive weapons. He is the guy who made pedestrian players great which helped him become the best.
@@JonyJuices I seriously doubt he could of handled the punishment that previous generation qbs endured. He's had plenty of offensive talent around him just based off of his offensive lines that had given him great protection throughout the years. Can't deny that, he has the best o-line 10-12 years of his career and at least a top 10 in 5 other seasons. There were a few years his o line wasn't the top 10 but it was never below league average. Let's say he was on a loaded team in the 80's, doesn't that mean he needs solid talent around him? He did make players better, but not the o-lines and certainly not his defenses or his kickers. He couldnt win when he had peak Randy Moss on his team along with Wes Welker, gronk and Aaron hernandez so theres that
The funny thing is even though you said being a great QB isn’t only throwing a million yards and touchdowns. Brady also throws for a million yards and touchdowns. While winning.
I'm also a Vikings fan i can't believe you think that!? Yeah Brady is a good QB, he doesn't suck. But as a Vikings fan, we never get the calls, we never hit the clutch kick, our defense never steps up with a big play when needed.....these things have ALWAYS happened for Brady! He has to have a damn horse shoe shoved up his ass or something, its crazy!
I hate when people say Brady singlehandedly turned this team around. What Barry should've mentioned alongside less picks and an already talented roster was that alongside Brady, the Bucs also got this off-season his best friend Gronk, a POS but good on the field WR (Antonio Brown), a star LT (Tristan Wirfs), a RB who carried the offense during the playoffs (Fournette), and a star safety (Antoine Winfield Jr)
Antonio brown didn't even play 90% of that season. And question has gronk ever played with any other qb than brady on another team? No, gronk is only good cuz brady makes him look good like brady does with all his receivers. That's why gronk came to play with brady. Brady makes every receiver look like gold
@@rayvonvelez3129 it's the opposite... He needs a superteam to be good. Those guys go down so does his game and that night proved it. He's overrated when he has average players around him.
@@iss6044 Gronk is a future Hall of Famer and the reason no one wanted Antonio Brown isn't because of his abilities as a wide reciever. It's because he's a an incredibly abrasive, volatile, narcissistic cancer. You really think teams passed on AB because he's not a good wide reciever? You need to lay off the dope, bro.
Brady is the number one intangible player of all time, of any sport. Despite his age, he finds success largely because his leadership brings out the best in his teammates. This video also cherry picks data to back a bad opinion. You can’t just be lucky for 20+ years as well.
Not to mention he’s so incredibly biased. In the packers vs bucs game the refs weren’t calling anything. The packers RT got away with not one, not two, not three but FOUR false starts in a row lol. The packers oline was also holding all game. The packers defence was also holding just as much as the bucs. This whole video is just so biased against Brady and giving all the credit to the other teams QB, it’s honestly quiet sad lol.
Also just throwing this out there Brady's passer rating in the playoffs is below 90 and he barely cracks top 20 in the category. He also never won a SB where his defense gave up 30+ points. They say you need to have some luck to win in the NFL and Brady sure has had a lot of it
@@zack1610 so you’re either Seahawks,Falcons or a steelers fan😂. Which one is it? Now ask yourself a question, would you rather have your team’s qb or brady leading a game winning drive in the superbowl?
@@admincxs1670 let the haters hate I love it. Honestly wish people didn't like Tom Brady as much like they did back in like 2011. Made being a Brady fan even better 🙂
@mike james Terry Bradshaw was carried to 4 Super Bowls is it really that hard to believe, especially with what evidence Barry gave us in the video, that Brady has been carried by Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Gronk, Edelman, Ammendola, AB, Evans, and Godwin.
Like how when it comes to Aaron Rodgers its always the defense fault. The 2019 NFC champion vs the 49ers it was the defense fault that the offense scored 0 points in the first half. Same for the Falcons game in 2016 that defense caused the offense to score 0 again in the 1st half if only the defense could of made just one stop lmao. How bout the 2014 game vs the Seahawks it was the defense fault for causing 5 turnovers giving great field position for Rodgers to score just fg n give Wilson the ability to comeback n win. Even in 2015 vs the Cardinals the defense held them to 20 points n it took 2 lucky hail mary throws to just tie the game. So the argument that its all the defense fault Rodgers doesn't win is bs. The defense has sucked but was not the only reason the packers lost playoff games. Rodgers hasn't played good either in those games
@Cornelius Malone 2014: the 5 turnovers I mentioned were before the Bostitch play so explain why Rodgers allowed the game to get to that point 2015: it was a bad defense that cost the game no doubt but it took a bit of a miracle for the two long passes on the packers last drive to just tie the game 2016: not saying the defense played good but how are you gonna defend going scoreless in the first half n same against the 49ers in 2019. Not scoring is a definitely reason a team loses 2021: I didn't know King played offense n caused the packers to go scoreless off the turnovers they had in the second half n calls are always being blown it just when you loss you notice them more
@Cornelius Malone bro how are you gonna ignore the chances the offense had to extend the lead. I promise you if you look back at everything prior mainly in the 1st half of that game you see be shocked that the packers didn't have more points
@Cornelius Malone 2015 all I'm saying he didn't play good either. the defense cost them the game no doubt but to only put the blame on them for that lost is wrong it does include him for not playing better
@Cornelius Malone when your so far behind in points, yes you have to play perfect on both ends but it normally impossible. besides that one instance against the Falcons how many teams really could of comeback? I would even put money if you put the same situation even the patriots couldn't repeat that performance. It was just a special performance
@Cornelius Malone I didn't say the defense did bad I said the chances the packers offense had to extend the lead were there but didn't capitalized on the opportunity
You forgot the phantom holding, the no-hold calls, and the defensive PI that was missed in Super Bowl LV. Same happened with the 2020 NFC Championship!
The Packers just played them again. Man I honestly believe the reason the Bucs defense is considered "good" is because of how dirty they play. The amount of fucking holds by them that weren't called is ridiculous. Thank god the Pack still won
I love these videos and have very little I disagree with. That being said, it was smart of Brady to go the Bucks. Which Barry acknowledges. It just comes across as someone that has never participated in high level sports. The difference between shitty and good coaches at the d1 level is massive. I doubt its a different thing in professional sports, but add in the money and legacy that comes with it. I don't think hes wrong about a single stats thing he has said, he just has no concept of culture. As idiotic as I know that sounds, it is real.
This is why i totally dismiss a video like this one because we talk about football like it is a video game like madden football where a game is won on stat alone. I think you have to look and understand that the game is more than mere stats alone. Football to me is like chess it is not how many piece you have on the board but what you have and where are they located on the board also what are you able to do with them. And i think Brady's game is more mental than physical where the others are probably not as astute on the mental game i do not buy the dink and dunk theory if it was that easy why all the other QB's don't do the same and win a ton of super bowl. I think goes beyound that i always have bee told that luck comes to the one who are prepared.
so in your rivers video, when he had historically bad offensive lines(name one good lineman from 2010 to 2017 on the san diego chokers) HE gives up sacks, but when Rodgers, with the best center in the league and still a good line without bahktiari gets sacked its his lines fault?
Quaterbacks don't luck into 14 conference championship games, 10 Superbowl appearances and 7 Superbowl wins. You can luck into temporary success, you can't luck into it for 20 years.
@@antonioiniguez1615 the facts show that he is one of the greatest players in this sport. The facts show that he has won nearly every possible award for his position including an MVP at the age of 40. To base it all on luck is insulting to how much hard work it takes to win even one superbowl.
@@kingrodney441 The facts show he's the most overrated athlete in sports history. The facts show he's replaceable. The facts show he's done absolutely nothing to show for the goat title.
I realized how you showed the defensive points per drive the Buccs rank with Brady and left out the offensive points per drive with Brady and never did with Jameis Winston
2.11 ---> 2.72 9th -----> 5th relative to the league The difference in defensive points per drive is far more significant. I'm sure much of it can be attributed to Jameis' insane amount of turnovers Long story short: Tom Brady >>>> Jameis Winston. Who knew?
@@CaLbaTr00se So if it likely had to do with Jamies insane amount of interceptions than Brady should get a decent amount of credit for the improvement go the Bucs defense right?
@@kevinmoynihan5118 So if what likely had to do with Jameis insane amount of tds? The improvement by the defense or the improvement by defensive points per drive? How much is decent amount of credit and why would he get credit for the improvement of the Bucs defense? He should get credit for not burdening the Bucs defense that much at all especially compared to Winston. But he doesn't play or coach defense
@@lightning10053 Brady was a top 10 QB last year as a whole and was even better after the lost to Kansas City throughout the end of the season. He was an important piece of the Bucs Super Bowl run they wouldn’t have won it with any random average QB
When I saw some of these stats I wonder, “there is no way Rodgers defenses were that bad” then it clicked, they were just bad but because of how good Rodgers was and how often they scored it made really high scoring games because the other team got the ball from Rodgers high scoring
That's why well balanced, smart football is better than high flying explosive passing offenses. Patriots with Brady were always a case study on this, and still fans on social media think they are one Randy Moss from a superbowl when they don't have the O-line, D-line, or ability to control the time at will.
Tom Brady is the GOAT when it comes to fast and accurate dink and dunk passes. Besides that, there is nothing exceptional about his play. He has decent pocket awareness but he slower than a turtle in the pocket and hardly has any mobility to get outside of the pocket. He basically gets into a fetal position when he is about to get sacked. He has decent arm strength but nothing special. His deep throws are inconsistent. He has always benefited from top 10 defenses, great o-lines, great kickers, great coaching, and ref favoritism his entire career. Oh, and let's not forget he had Gronk, who is arguably the best tight end of all time. He is an above average quarterback who was put in the best situations to be successful. There are many more talented quarterbacks who could have achieved Brady's level of success if not more success if they were in his shoes. Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner, Dan Marino to name a few
In Super Bowl 55, the Bucs scored about what most other teams who played against the Chiefs did that year. Bucs defense won the game. It shouldn’t change the conversation about Brady that much.
@@umdmustang9254 They held the Chiefs to 9, gave the offense 17 against the Saints, and held strong after Tom threw 3 picks. Any good QB wins all 3 of those games.
@@deathstar754 winning isn’t bad. But good lord how many lucky breaks can you get? The Chiefs OLine collapsed in time for the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had everything to do with that, right?
The thing I hate the most about Tom Brady is that his impact on the NFL is overwhelmingly negative. Its because of him that everybody acts like the quarterback is solely responsible for wins and losses. If Brady didn't have such an extremely long streak of good luck and a great system, actually talented quarterbacks like Manning and Rodgers wouldn't be called "chokers". At least when it was Montana vs Marino, nobody reduces Marino's legacy to "just a choker".
do you know how many pics payton manning has thrown in the play offs? he was a great regular season qb, but in the clutch occasionally he would crumble.
Who said Peyton is a chocker? Mahomes? Wilson? Shall I continue? Others can be great or good. He is just the best. And obviously people focus on the best. Plus he is still playing.
@@AromaBlue notice how i only said peyton. look at his early performances in the playoffs, and aaron rodgers has only made the superbowl once. arguable the most talented qb at the time in the nfc and constantly misses the superbowl.
Yea and if you look at the stats objectively it contributes to the whole theory of the NFL being fake like WWE now. legally classified as an "entertainment" league rather than a sports league
0:33 how did Tom Brady weasle his way out of New England when Belichick didn't want him there for at least 3 years. Also he had trash receivers his last year.
The thing is though, you cannot put numbers on leadership style and the effect Tom would have on teammates....I mean in my own limited experience, I play harder when I have better teammates ESPECIALLY when I had a quarterback that didn't make my life a living hell as a defensive player
@@antonioiniguez1615 Hmmmm.....The only guys that really come to mind as of right now are JJ Watt and Larry Fitz....they aren't theyre productive selves anymore but they are great guys to have in the locker room for several reasons and there is no statistical way to statistically account for that....I would love to see a documentary on Tom's career one day just like the one that came out about Michel Jordan some years ago to help us get a glympse of Tom's actual lockeroom pressence
@@raymondfrisbie8084 How does them being in the locker room make them better players? The only things that make someone good at Playing football are things that are measurable through numbers and that happen while playing football. Someone like Fitz isn't worth keeping around because of how good he is, but to be a mentor.
It's funny u gave Brady credit for choosing the bucks when it turns out he wanted to be a raider or a dolphin more but only went to buccs as a last shot
Thank god someone is putting light to this. Tom brady is easily the most overrated, overhyped player up there with eli manning both are praise by there fanbases for being gods and savior's despite the fact they are both lucky both no one ever mentions that. They never mention their poor games it's like everyone tries to overlook it.
13:41 BRUH MY DAD LEGIT SAID THAT. HE SAID RIGHT AFTER THAT EXACT PLAY THAT BRADY WAS CARRYING THE TEAM AND THAT HE JUST SOLIDIFIED HIMSELF AS THE GOAT. that's crazy
@@James-df3ut i’m just pointing out facts lmao. the perspective in this is as one sided as it possibly can be. there are legit arguments you can have against brady’s game but the idea that he’s been to 10 superbowls because of luck is absurd. that’s not how luck works lol
Winning is the thing that matters, 50 years from now people will barely remember Dan Marino, people say he got the best arm. Brady didn't have the strongest arm, this is football not far throwing contest, performing at the times that mattered most is what makes you a legend.
Winning is a 60 minute long process with at least 22 people collectively playing together to win. Winning doesn't make someone a legend, it makes the team legends sure, but winning cannot make an individual person a legend as they do not control the other 21 ppl on their team or the 22 on the opposite. I can't say he doesn't "show up" when it matters most, but a lot of the games he's given the opportunity many times to show up thanks to luck, special teams, and defenses, like the 28-3, he brought them back sure, but the defense literally let up 0 points in the second half to make it possible, more than just him to win
I hate Tom Brady. I’m a jets fan and he kicked our asses twice a year every year on the pats. Still I have to recognize that he may be the greatest to ever play.
He's one of the absolute best if he isn't the greatest of all time (I don't really believe in GOATs for sports like football). Still, he's lucky as fuck and his fanboys constantly dismiss his support just to prop him up a bit more as if he even needs their defense.
@@user-kn3st7gd3e No one who is involved in team sports ever says that unless they are trying to motivate themselves to eliminate external influences to their psyche. That's just some grade A bullshit that sports analysts and fans that have never played team-oriented games of any sort say, or it's semantics.
I think its a well articulated take, but at a certain point if one person encounters so much "Luck" over the course of twenty years/two teams...maybe its at least a *little* reflective of the person themselves? I dont think Brady is the the best ever at any one particular aspect of being a quarterback but continuing to do what he's doing at his age is remarkable (Plus, I don't recall Barry docking Manning for getting his second ring with a stacked new team?) Manning, Marino, Rodgers, Young are undoubtedly more talented but at some point Brady's success is undeniable
@@skyeangelofdeath7363 He didn't not say that Brady was a bad QB overall, but if you were putting together a team. Would you pick Tom Brady over Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees?
The man did it with no names for most of his career. The man changed teams and won the title. Ask the other QBs would they rather have those better stats or the titles. He's the Goat! Heck,He beat Father Time! Mic Drop!
I get I’m late but no names? Wes Welker Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski were First Team All-Pro multiple times and Julian Edelman is a Super Bowl MVP and that’s just off the top of my head. Checking Google I also found Matthew Slater Matt Light and Logan Mankins, and that’s just the First Team All Pros on offense for the Patriots. Brady has also had a good number of First Team All-Pro defenders and a total of 37 Pro Bowl teammates on the Patriots according to Pro Football Reference. Brady is the GOAT but we can’t act like quarterbacks like Dan Marino Drew Brees Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes and others wouldn’t have at least five rings with this much talent.
@@cleamonjones4057 ✌ Yes! The 2010 Chargers were LOADED and had arguably THE best team in the NFL yet lost the first round of the playoffs. The 2016 Cowboys. The Saints damn near EVERY year.😂 Another example just recently was the 2019-2020 49ers. Arguably had THE best team in the NFL and performed HORRIBLY in the Super Bowl 🥴🤷🏾♂. You must be young or you don't watch much football...
@@youtubegm3227 Brady has usually been greater than his team. The difference is that he sacrifices talent on the offense to have great defenses and takes pay cuts to have good teams who can win. I hate when Rodgers fans complain about shitty teammates when Aaron’s contract sucks money from the front office to get better talent(Although that front office has done some terrible stuff tho). Most of the qbs Brady is compared to on this list had better offensive weapons and/or coaches. Meanwhile Brady has put up some mvp caliber seasons with mostly 7th round and un drafted receivers. Even though he had Gronk he’s only had him less than half his career
@Barry Allen if he were bad on a very good team he’d be overrated. If he were very good on a very bad team he’d likely be underrated. If he’s good and on a good team he’s just highly rated
I also remembering everyone saying TB was awful. That his offensive line sucked and the defense couldn't stop a wet paper towel and that they were gonna go 8-8 tops. All of a sudden it's a super team and Brady is just lucky. Even though there was no pre season or time to practice with his new team and had to be learn everything on the go. But whatever excuse people want to make
@@stevengrant4117 Bro what? All you would ever hear about was how perfect of a match up Tom and Tampa were. Tampa's Receiving core was enticing to a QB bitching about receivers all season. Plus that D-line and linebackers that were already known for what they could do. It's a good team. But wait Brady wants Gronk, he gets that. Then Fournette gets cut and goes to Tampa, then AB that's when the super team talk came into play. Name any other team that stacked
@@cleamonjones4057 Yeah and Brady's leadership helped elevate the team as well. Defense was incredible but I doubt they would have made the superbowl with anyother quarterback
@@tomrod1949 yeah I guess that's kinda a better comparison. Tom and Horry are very good & clutch players, who also were smart enough to be in teams that didn't need them to carry the whole thing. Lebron and Rodgers don't have as many rings as the other guys, but they're both extremely talented players who (most of the time) weren't in super teams & thus had to do a fuckton just to stay competitive
@@zakh-g4893 rodgers was in the same nfc title game as Brady in the redzone down 8 with 2 minutes left failed 3 times to get into the endzone then kicked a field goal you don't win settling for field goals like a pussy sorry kid
You forgot something else about Brady! All of his cult members love to point out how he's still doing this at his advanced age, yet I've never heard of any QB his age who has a team constructed especially for him and an offensive scheme that was created especially for his skill set.
You know I actually agree with you. If you take out all of the accolades, statistics, and literally every actual football player calling him the goat, then yeah he is overrated. Why is this even in my feed? This is made for like people who are brain dead.
@@antonioiniguez1615 Are you serious? Watch football. Do literally the basic amount of research. Watch interviews. If you don't think Tom Brady is the goat, you don't know anything about football.
@@jcore0981 I've researched this specific topic for many hours. I've done in depth looks. My conclusion is that Brady is the most overrated athlete in sports history and isn't top 10 on the all time list. Name one reason for Brady being the goat
@@antonioiniguez1615 clearly you haven't done it enough. People are like"oh he's dink and dunk" oh he has a " good defense" if it was that easy why doesn't any qb with a good defense do "dink and dunk" and make it to 10 superbowls? People only look at the tangibles and are like oh yeah any qb can do what he does. Brady is a very talented QB(Not the most talented but still very talented) what seperates him from the rest are his intangibles, his leadership, his clutch factor the fact that he's won with scrub recievers over and over again. Brady in his prime had a cannon arm and he still has one.
most good sports youtubers make it clear they're checking their bias, let the facts guide their content, and give nuanced takes that acknowledge the good and bad in a player/coach/team. i appreciate that this channel doesn't do that
bro we need a debate between Skip and Barry, skip absolutely hates Rodgers and LeBron while he loves Brady and Barry hates Brady and thinks LeBron and Rodgers is the goat
Facts. Thank God you broke this down. Dude gets all the credit, none of the blame. Beats a crap team, he's a god. Throws INTs, defense steps up. Then the luck comes out of nowhere somehow. It's insane. And don't even get me started on the Packers game. You said it all
Literally, and in the video he didn’t seem to address the fact that he said Tom is a system player even though he moved into an offense that was not fully suited towards his play style
if Kevin King didn’t allowed that touchdown Against the bucks in the last second of the half the packers would of been in the super bowl and it was out of Tom Brady’s control
this guy really hates brady
I can’t tell if he likes him or not
If kissing your son is it NFL stat then he won the whole stat
I think is frustrated love... It's more like a crush... I don't doubt that he do weird awkward things while looking in to Brady's posters on his bedroom and bathroom.
I don't think so - he's just respectfully critical. I hate Brady way worse than this - he forgot the part where a Vikings fan through a plastic beer bottle at him. Brady's reaction was soooo high-'n-mighty.
He’s not lying about anything he said in the video. So is it hate or just the truth?
I will from now on always refer to Gronk as "the human golden retriever"
The best nickname ever other the Tompa Bay Bradyneera
2:28
Golden retrievers are smart tho
Yeah we
He's one of the bests there and now. But just another hater without reason
that Rogers-Brady 3TD/3Int stat is absolutely mind boggling
It’s not, Brady ints were in garbage time against a team leading by choker rogers.
@@raulgonzalez1892 Rodgers didn’t choke my guy gave the stats it’s just the historically and consistent shittiness of the packers defense
@@christianmorales8445 it was a big choke, he was twice in first and goal against the bucs and couldn’t close the deal. He was once again at the 7 yard line against the 49ers and choked.
@@raulgonzalez1892 Rodgers didn't play the absolute best sure, but that mf did as much as he could've done. You cannot blame him and only him for a loss that had many miscues that wasn't his fault. 2, I would advise you to see the other videos and stats that put into perspective how dominant Brady's teams have been considering his offense team has scored 13 or under twice in Superbowls and won. The niners game this year he played bad, though he was once again not the only mess up nor the biggest issue there. You are picking and choosing just him out of many mistakes and also not recognizing the defenses he is playing against, they are still good despite how powerful the offense is. This year was bad yeah, but overall, he is not a choker and i'd advise you to go and watch ever single playoff game and name one where he was the biggest problem in them. Sure he could've won in 2014, the second kap 9ers year, 2020 and 21, but he still should've won those without mistakes made on defense or special teams. Watch them all and then come back and really tell me that he was the actual reason or most of the reason for the choke
@@raulgonzalez1892 but Rodgers played better than brady. Brady is a bigger choker than rodgers🤡🤡🤡
30TD 3INT in games against bad teams and 10TD 9INT in games against good teams. That's literally kirk cousins if he was on a good team
Facts
@@Thebucs14625 not that good, the buc defense was way better than any of kirk defense, plus the motherfucker had so many top receiver that year it was almsot unfair.
@@Zz-lp8yr When Kirk signed with Minnesota, he inherited a defense good enough to carry their team to the NFC championship game. He had that defense in their prime and couldn't bring them deep into playoffs during those 2 years. I've been a Tampa fan for a long time, and I can tell you with certainty this defense wasn't nearly as good until Todd Bowles came in. And yes, Brady has played with studs in Tampa, but are we gonna forget during Kirk's time in Minnesota he's played with Adam Theilan, Stefon Diggs, Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson? It would be a crime to overlook the talent he had around him as well.
Yeah that’s how he wins so many Super Bowls and play off games he is always playing bad teams wake up idiot , quit being a hater of a person who made the most out of the talent , like Larry Bird , slow can’t jump but oh wait he was a winner , because of the thing between their ears , for you that’s a brain by the way , you and Barry can go play with each other now 😂
Kirk Cousins joined a team that went 13-3 with Case Keenum at QB and was only able to get them to the playoffs once in 4 seasons
“If theres one thing brady loves to do, its chase the young” lol
He Especially Targets Little Boys
i died after hearing that
It was a good joke by Barry got to love dad jokes
@@radboy490 lil white boys
CREEPY!!! AHHHH (THIS IS NOT A DRILL, EVACUTE IMMEDIATLY)
"After Drew Brees, Brady had the second most efficient season among NFC south quarterbacks over the age of 40 who attended a Big10 School"
*IM FUCKING DEAD HAHAHHAHAA*
I also think it's valid to point out the one year he had to go on the road for his playoff games was the pandemic year with reduced or nonexistent crowds negating the home field advantage almost entirely the one year he didn't have it.
@@Simon-tl5vt "You guys always find excuses" bro do you not understand how much crowds affect games?
Yea...I'm sure he's the only one that played without crowd noises.
@@Dr_Coop he wasn’t the only one playing without crowds lmao
It would also take away home field from him as well....... including the Superbowl
Crowd noise isn’t the only thing lol. You still deal with fire alarms getting pulled. Away locker rooms heat suddenly doesn’t work.
He’s not hating on Brady for the team doing what there supposed to do he is just showing how the rest of the team is the reason why he wins so much.
Yeah I would be pissed if I were on his defense year after year. They get no credit.
@@ptulip Apart of me wonders how Malcom Butler felt after getting that game winning interception in superbowl 49 and then hearing everyone suck off Tom Brady afterwards.
@@ptulip would you rather get credit from the media who wouldn't care to know your name if you weren't a NFL player, or from the QB himself along with your coaches and other teammates? His peers speak highly of him on personal levels hell I even remember Brady giving James white the truck he won for being Superbowl 51 MVP because he didn't think he deserved it.
@@kingrodney441 that is cool. Also, I bet all the NFL players know exactly what and why Brady gets undue credit for. AB eventually fell out of line and started talking about Brady in a more honest way but everyone else seems cool with it.
IMO Having Brady as the face of the league has made as many great moments as boring ones. And if you’re his teammate, having Alex Guerrero there to give you his designer drug is a big bonus 👀
@@tornadoofsupercell there may not be a great QB in the history of the league who never got undue credit. It's hard to give credit to all 53 players along with every member of the coaching staff along with the front office along with the training staff along with the chefs and field technicians along with medical team and the janitors and so on and so on that helped the team get a win. It's much easier (even though it's unfair) to hand the credit to the most popular ones like the QB and the head coach. If we really cared about the effort and accomplishments of the entire franchise then we wouldn't play fantasy football and glorify the star players as much as we do.
this needs to become an annual series
It will be if he wins every year from now on. 🤣😂
Who wants tell him
Every player inthe nfl is a system player as a good coach with fit the offence/defense around what the player does well
Knowing how great Brady is, it probably will be lol.
@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs thank you for this, I truly needed to see or here someone else say this instead of every talking head acting like Brady and all pocket qbs are worse and limited to systems
@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs Not every player, some coaches have their system & pick talent to work that system vs what works for the player. Ideally you will pick a "system guy", but not all do.
The thing about the bucs 2019 season is that Winston threw for 5100 yards... imagine his numbers with 10 interceptions instead of 30, he would've won MVP
..this is not how things work...The same crazy risks he takes that got him 30 int. Also helped him get 5100 yards..
How can you disprove when you are only talking facts? Best team FG accuracy, top 5 defense, worst team FG accuracy against, best starting field position, most ST/DEF return TDs… don’t even fight it anymore, the dude is destined to win.
Same
Most quarterbacks would not take advantage of those situations.
@@rydermccall3590 You're telling me Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be able to capitalize on the advantages mentioned above? Give me your dealer's number because he's hooking you up with some good shit.
@@richgerow3472 Minus Mahomes, all of those are historic chokers. Your coked up ass really just included Drew Brees, who will go down as one of the worst post-season performing QBs in the Hall of Fame lmfao
@@Phenomiracle Funny that you say that because in the last video before this one. Evidence to the contrary was presented
As a life long Bucs fan, I can’t stand how it’s “Tom Brady’s team and a couple of ball boys”
Edit: Don’t get me wrong I love having him as my quarterback and he is no doubt the goat, I just wish the media would give the rest of the guys on the team the props they deserve
Amen
Rondé is a finalist...again...love watching his breakdowns every week. Hope he makes it to Canton this year!
Saw one game earlier this year where the announcer kept talking about how Brady was great and it was all thanks to Brady and even went on to talk about how Brady is why the running backs were so good and Brady single handedly is why the defenders were so good.
It was the most disgusting nutlicking announcing I've ever heard in my life.
Could you stand it when you were watching the Superbowl Parade?
@@SIRGENERALGRABBER don’t get me wrong I like having him as my quarterback, and he played a big role in the Super Bowl run. I just wish the media, commentators, and casual fans alike referred to the team as the Buccaneers instead of “Tom Brady and the Bucs”.
Some of those Jameis INTs looked like the kind that happen to teams going against Brady in the playoffs.
DrClaw77 W
Bucs D-line in the playoffs made opposing O-lines look like 2019-20 Bucs O-line
*I like how he ended racism.*
Brady’s 7th ring ended all bigotry on Earth.
@@Hawkeyes2017 I bet you're fun at parties.
God can't end racism! It's free will of humankind!
Lies. Trump's twitter account getting deleted ended all racism in the history of the world. Ez
@@waffleman2998 LOL! Black people and every other race can be racist too! Try going to Brooklyn, NY as a white dude just minding your business and let us know how there is no racism there.
This Tom Brady guy seems lucky. Maybe he should go buy himself some lottery tickets.
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
Not like he needs them
he doesn't need the lottery. he is the lottery
He could be rich!
13:23 That incompletion is still the only play I remembered from this game. Summed it all up for me. Mahomes doing his damnedest but being let down by his team.
You mean 13:23?
@@ddrmadness Jesus how did I mess that up xD. Yeah let me fix that.
He didn't do his best. He had many chances to pass or throw. He either just chose to run or panicked.
@@AromaBlue Chances or not, many of the the throws he did make were right on the money and dropped by his receivers
@@ddrmadness Mahomes was terrible in that game. He forced way too many throws. Every talks about that throw at 13:23, but it was nearly intercepted.
I will still never forgive Kevin king for that game
He was questionable to play with a back injury, and they should have doubled Miller, not kings fault
@@horrorstuff1350 should’ve just tackled Miller. Would’ve made it a FG attempt instead. Hindsight
I mean he has done well this season I think he should stay in greenbay I think he is really proving his worth as a cb 3(stokes should be cb2)
@@Wig-po5nb hello there
@@Oliv3r2014 elllo
Yeah, I get it, all Tom Brady has to do is not mess up completely, basically he always has the best teams around him there to bail him out and because his team always wins the game, his bad play does not get blamed. Meanwhile, the other great quarterbacks like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and etc all are the real reasons their teams even make it to the playoffs, their performance elevates in the playoffs, but their teams are not the best so they still lose & people blame them.
“Peyton performance elevates in the playoffs” good joke 🤣🤣🤣
Peyton is one of my favorite players ever but saying he elevated his performance in the playoffs is just not true unfortunately
Replying to original comment: Because those QB's eat up more salary cap. Excluding this year, Brady averages $12.5 million a year. Let's see other QB's average yearly pay ok? Brees: $13.4 million. Rothelisberger: $14.8 million. Eli Manning: $15.7 million. (Not a typo, it's actually Eli Manning.) Peyton Manning: $13.7 million (Again, not a typo. Eli made more per year than Peyton on average.) Matt Ryan: $18.7 million. Phillip Rivers: $14.2 million. Aaron Rogers: $15 million. I just listed off the top 8 highest paid QB's of all time and Brady takes less money than all of them. When you get Brady for a discount year in and year out (I mean hell, Brady is better than Matt Ryan all day, every day, and is on average $6 million a year cheaper) you can afford to surround Brady with higher paid players. Whatever you say he can't do on the field he makes up for it tenfold in other places where players are too selfish to give it all up. No wonder the Falcons will forever be haunted with 28-3 when Matt Ryan is the most overpaid QB ever. Take away that $6 million extra and I promise you they wouldn't be haunted with 28-3 forever, and it would take a ring away from Brady. 2 birds. 1 stone. (Can't wait for the "Oh but he married into wealth. His wife has more money than him." Even though he is his own person and his wife's wealth has nothing to do with his own personal success, and not to mention at $12.5 million a year he doesn't need his wife's money anyway.)
@@hindsightburner5633 A lot of the stats you use actually demonstrate that Brady has, in fact, gotten much more help from his defense than other quarterbacks.
For instance, his 2-3 record in playoff games where his team allowed 30 points. Much better winning % than the others, sure, but it's ridiculous to say that Brady isn't helped by his defense when his defense has allowed 30 points in 5 out of 45 playoff games while Marino and Favre's defenses allowed 30 points in 13 out of 42 games... in an era of lower scoring! Rodgers and Brees each have more playoff games with 30 points allowed than Brady and they have fewer playoff starts COMBINED than Brady has by himself.
The regular season numbers reveal the same trend. Brady has a much better winning % than Brees when his defense gives up 30, but Brees has nearly twice as many games in that category. The Saints defense gave up over 400 points four times in a span of five years during Brees' prime. Brady NEVER played on a team that allowed 400 points. If Brady had 81 regular season games and 13 playoff games where his defense allowed 30 points, his winning % in those games would be a lot worse.
@@hindsightburner5633 And if you didn't find that point compelling, here's a note on his playoff stats that really puts into focus just how lucky Brady is to have the postseason win % he does.
Brady has 17 postseason starts in which he finished with a passer rating below 80, nearly 40% of his games. He is 11-6 in those games. All other QBs since 2001 are 43-122. When you remove games where both QBs finished below 80, effectively isolating the sample to games where one QB played below average and the other didn't, Brady is 4-2 and other QBs are 16-92.
Brady has had several just plain bad playoff games (including at least one, arguably two Super Bowl wins) where the other facets of the team bailed him out. When Rodgers/Brees/Favre/Marino/Manning had a bad game, like any QB other than Brady, they lost.
You and rob parker should get a coffee
forget the coffee... just book a circle jerk weekend.
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
Did you remember to mention that Brees was recovering from 11 broken ribs and a punctured lung that season?
Barry calls TB a product of NEs system
In 2020 Brady goes to a new team with a losing record in another conference during a pandemic with no offseason or preseason threw 40 TDS scores 30 points every playoff game 3 on the road and 2020 somehow validates that narrative. LMFAOOOOOOO
Even Tho Brady Scored 30 In Every Playoffs Game
Look the Field Position He Had
Gc c08 this completely ignores the 40TDs a change from 7-11 wins the lack of offseason and preseason. But 17 out of Tampa’s 23 scoring drives were in Tampa territory. The NO game doesn’t take away from everything else.
Gc c08 y’all will always find some excuse for why he relievers smh
@@confusedbutfriendly9612 Let's Be Honest Brady Wasn't All That Great Against The Saints or Packers They Won Both Games Because of There Great Defence and Btw Bucs Had 3 Ints Against The Saints
@@confusedbutfriendly9612 Also The Bucs Was Not All That Bad In 2019, They Lost some Close Games and There QB Trow 30 Picks
If you had the QBs switch teams in Super Bowl 55, the Mahomes led Bucs would have won by 70+.
@@elliottpierce9823 I'm talking for just this game. Its a theoretical situation. A thought experiment. Whether or not gronk or AB would join the Mahomes led Bucs before the season started is irrelevant.
And it would have been a huge problem if Brady had the Chiefs O-line. Lets say Chiefs Brady does get the ball out in 1.5 to 2 seconds from the snap every play like your comment suggests so he can avoid the demolition crew that was the Bucs front 4 ripping through the paper thin Chief's O-line every play and not get sacked. He can't scramble because he's Tom Brady and 40+ years old and that rush will get him in 2.5 seconds or so. Without being able to extend plays and let longer routes develop, the Bucs defense can basically pull up their safeties and DBs to 5 yards off the ball and play tight man coverage because with 2 seconds to pass, no receiver is getting past 10 yards before Brady tosses it or goes down. Not even Brady can pull a TD pass out of his backside under those circumstances unless a turnover puts him on the opponents 9 yard line. On the other side though, Bucs Mahomes can take a nap behind the Bucs O-line (and admittedly poor pass rush of the Chiefs). Have you seen what Mahomes can do with 5 seconds? And even when a rush does come, Mahomes can extend that play to 7+ seconds and somebody is gonna be open by then. He would pick apart any defense given that amount of time, and now we are right back to my original comment.
Either way, with the Chiefs new and improved O-Line this year, we'll get to see if I'm right. I'm not saying the Chiefs will be 20-0 this year, but that offense (that should be able to run now as well) is going to be SCARY good if that front line gels. Mahomes with 5 seconds to pass on most plays is going to be a fireworks display every weekend.
@@elliottpierce9823 NO if Patrick mahomes had a o-line and they were both healthy mahomes would have definitely beat Brady
Facts
Who fucking cares lol no one is saying Brady is better than Mahomes rn. We don’t need an essay
I hate when people hype up Mahomes more then Tom cause at least Tom at least earned it
I personally will give Brady his props because he deserves it, you can say Brady has great teammates that get him wins, but last time I checked Brady isn’t a bad QB and American Football is a team game.
Facts
@Jacob Perry lol
@@williamli6200 Barry puts together 10 minutes of Brady throwing screens and short passes even though he led the league in average depth of target, he's reaching and always has been. He acts like every QB in the league doesn't throw like 10-15 of those a game, and few of them do it as consistently accurately as Brady does, Wentz who was Barry's QB couldn't hit dudes 5 yards away anymore lmao
@@HorseshoesInFannypacks it’s crazy how the game of football is a 11 on 11 game but because there is 43 years old qb on the team all the credits go to him
He isn’t the best QB ever then
I know how Brady's luck works. He stares down receivers that are being interfered on and he takes unnecessary risks when his defenses is on fire.
Lost a couple of superbowls due to bad luck what's your point
@@minet3225 I said my point, most of his luck isn't luck at all.......
Replying to original comment: But if his defense is running great and hold the other team to like 10 points, are they bad risks? If he's up 28-3 with five minutes left in the 4th (and he has been a few dozen times in his career) is trying out play live for the first time a bad idea? I'd say no. That would be the time to give something a true test. Worse case scenario is the play totally backfires, score is 28-11 and he gets serious again. I mean Brady is not the Atlanta Falcons.
@@TehGamesaver So far I would say he has great judgment but not excellent. Close to excellent.
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
Finally I needed another documentary
Barry so sad lol, nothing he says get traction but with you freaks
Because BradyTards don't know how to form any argument besides "7 rings duhhh". Barry just laid out idiots like you who want to give Tom all the credit for their title.
@@dodger7111 literally non of my Brady arguments are based off 7 rings lmao but you let Barry tell you what Brady fans say? Sheep
Hope he makes one on Kawhi being overrated
@@angelmendez9365 ratio
The amount of research put into this is gold
So Drew Brees is not overrated and have 4 championship teams and didn’t make the playoffs?
Rodgers isn’t overrated when he had a 15-1 where he lost at home to the Giants,
Losing 4 NFC Championships and not making the SB?
So Brady is just sooooo overrated huh?
Ya he is. Because his defense has carried him every year. Look at the statistics you clown🤡🤡🤡
@@ATP2317 Forgot the defense were scoring all those points. I remember when the Pats D made that insane comeback in the superbowl against the Falcons. For a defense to score 25 points in ~16mins, insanity.
@@ATP2317 Yeah his defense carried him when he came back down 28-3 in the SB or when they gave up the Tyree catch that ruined the 19-0 year or like when they gave up 41 points to a backup QB & BB choked away another title. Or like when Belichick was 5-13 in NE before TB. Or like when Belichick's defense gave up 38 points to Manning in the AFC title game........
Brady and Isn’t overrated going 16-0 and Losing To the Giants in the SB!!!?
I know he is a troll but I really am curious how he feels about brady.
@@winslowpete6806 lol. His arguments are really stupid tho
@@winslowpete6806 really? 💀
@@sprk007 you can make any statistic sound good if you barf up a bunch of stats one after the other like he does.
@@shadowdestroyer5033 how so
he's not a troll and he's right lol
When his “luck” is so consistent that you expect it and are not surprised when it happens. Then maybe it isn’t actually luck, but leadership. It’s a known fact that he’s a head coach in practice and he recruits as GM. So the greatness of his surrounding cast has a lot to do with him making them great.
Some of that shit is definitely luck lol
@@williamli6200 it's still luck nigga Brady the Goat but you also can't deny luck like c'mon the tuck rule and throwing the ball at 1 shit that shit is luck bro 😂
@@williamli6200 the tuck rule altered the rules in the NFL where the tyree catch was a freak occurrence, not the same thing
@@williamli6200 yes, so lucky that the rest of the NFL has to change.
@@williamli6200 That Malcolm Butler interception wasn't actually a lucky break because they anticipated that play. If you watch the Patriots' road to the Super Bowl they had practiced on that same play because the Seahawks usually run that play to success.
Overrated or not the Bucs would not even make it to the playoffs had their QB still been Winston. Brady even in his 40s has shown to be a massive upgrade over Winston in his physical prime.
@@hihunter7 Lol, I know.
Pretty much every qb that’s ever played in the nfl is an upgrade from 2019 Winston
@@lucadonorio1815 I don't think Nagle could apply.
Thats not his point tho, his point is that everytime brady faces a team in the playoffs they magically fuck up, he never wins vs a team that actually puts up a good fight and if he does he loses.
@@french_toast223 Yeah the Falcons were especially bad.
You are right. Tom Brady is always lucky. His whole career is lucky. QB's like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees was way better than Tom Brady. It seemed like every play and penalty went Brady's way. And it all started with Drew Bledsoe breaking his ribs and then the tuck rule.
I feel like Brady greatest ability is motivating his team. There no way you can accidentally win 5 Super Bowls even with some all-time defenses
7 and been to 10
@@slutwagon4270 Yes, my bad
@@unleashbeast15 you are good boss it would be hard to track half of his career he has been to a superbowl
That is true. I think just the presence of brady on any team would give plenty of motivation
Mind blowing how people still think sports arent fixed lol
More Brady hate. Gotta love it.
But he’s spittin facts though, you can’t deny that
@@beanrefraction9530 I know. I agree with him.
He’s right. Time and time again people try to call him the goat when he chokes in the postseason over and over. Tom having the best teams doesn’t make him the greatest of all time. He has had more top 10 defenses than Rodgers, Brees and Peyton had combined. The media never gives the appropriate amount of credit to defenses even though they are ultimately more important to winning Super Bowls than a great qb. Brady has benefited from this his entire career and he gets all the credit.
The same people who complain when we dig deep and make cases for Jordan to not be the goat tell us that Brady is the goat when he is an average qb
I’ll admit that he has good leadership but that’s it
And it's fixed. His 7 rings are about as impressive as John Cena's 15 belts.
@Nine tails uchiha chats at least Horry has a game winning shot that mattered in the playoffs.
It’s funny, as a Brady supporter I use to be annoyed with these videos and the more I watched them, the more they were funny to me, but now after watching this one, I just feel sad for u guys, how you’ve put all your football credibility on the line just to go after one man who consistently makes you lose bets and arguments, why do u do this to urself, this video is laughably inconsistent but I’m genuinely asking, why don’t u just come over to our side and appreciate greatness, Brady signed for 1 more year, so he’s just got 2 years left and then he’ll probably retire. Why don’t u just let the hate go and appreciate the greatness for the next 2 years, most of us Brady supporters are tired of winning everything now anyways.🤷🏾♂️🤝
@@southsider3542 had to be said twice for you brady haters lol
Idk man, I'm a Vikings fan but I think Brady is really fucking good. Sometimes being the best QB is more than throwing a million yards and a million TDs. Brady has proven time and time again that he is the system. He makes the right decisions most of the time, he lets the pocket protect him instead of rolling out (which partly explains why he's usually healthy). He's led the league in TDs 4 times, led the league in passing yards 3 times and has led the league in passer rating twice. He has won the MVP 3 times. But you're right, totally overrated lol.
Great qb compounded with equally great defenses leads to success. Most of the other great all time qbs haven't had the same quality of team around then the way this guy constantly has had. Brady is great, but not the Goat. I highly doubt if he was put in other less friendly qb eras that he would have anywhere near the success he's had these days. To me the goat means they'd be great in most eras which Brady wouldn't
@@zeeski7454 I don’t see how you could logically say that. If Brady played in any decade prior to when he started, he would have played in a salary cap-less era. He would have had super teams year after year with both offense and defense being elite. Playing will Belichick allowed him to be on teams with good to great defenses but he rarely even had amazing offensive weapons. He is the guy who made pedestrian players great which helped him become the best.
@@JonyJuices I seriously doubt he could of handled the punishment that previous generation qbs endured. He's had plenty of offensive talent around him just based off of his offensive lines that had given him great protection throughout the years. Can't deny that, he has the best o-line 10-12 years of his career and at least a top 10 in 5 other seasons. There were a few years his o line wasn't the top 10 but it was never below league average. Let's say he was on a loaded team in the 80's, doesn't that mean he needs solid talent around him? He did make players better, but not the o-lines and certainly not his defenses or his kickers. He couldnt win when he had peak Randy Moss on his team along with Wes Welker, gronk and Aaron hernandez so theres that
The funny thing is even though you said being a great QB isn’t only throwing a million yards and touchdowns. Brady also throws for a million yards and touchdowns. While winning.
I'm also a Vikings fan i can't believe you think that!? Yeah Brady is a good QB, he doesn't suck. But as a Vikings fan, we never get the calls, we never hit the clutch kick, our defense never steps up with a big play when needed.....these things have ALWAYS happened for Brady! He has to have a damn horse shoe shoved up his ass or something, its crazy!
It's better to be lucky than good.
I hate when people say Brady singlehandedly turned this team around. What Barry should've mentioned alongside less picks and an already talented roster was that alongside Brady, the Bucs also got this off-season his best friend Gronk, a POS but good on the field WR (Antonio Brown), a star LT (Tristan Wirfs), a RB who carried the offense during the playoffs (Fournette), and a star safety (Antoine Winfield Jr)
@@tfofgaming3413 A retired TE and a WR no other team would touch with a 10 foot pole. Yeah, that was really an accomplishment.
Antonio brown didn't even play 90% of that season. And question has gronk ever played with any other qb than brady on another team? No, gronk is only good cuz brady makes him look good like brady does with all his receivers. That's why gronk came to play with brady. Brady makes every receiver look like gold
@@rayvonvelez3129 Gronk would do well on any other team minus Detroit. Brady? Not so much, the other teams aren't as loaded.
@@rayvonvelez3129 it's the opposite... He needs a superteam to be good. Those guys go down so does his game and that night proved it. He's overrated when he has average players around him.
@@iss6044 Gronk is a future Hall of Famer and the reason no one wanted Antonio Brown isn't because of his abilities as a wide reciever. It's because he's a an incredibly abrasive, volatile, narcissistic cancer. You really think teams passed on AB because he's not a good wide reciever? You need to lay off the dope, bro.
Brady is the number one intangible player of all time, of any sport. Despite his age, he finds success largely because his leadership brings out the best in his teammates. This video also cherry picks data to back a bad opinion. You can’t just be lucky for 20+ years as well.
Not to mention he’s so incredibly biased. In the packers vs bucs game the refs weren’t calling anything. The packers RT got away with not one, not two, not three but FOUR false starts in a row lol. The packers oline was also holding all game. The packers defence was also holding just as much as the bucs.
This whole video is just so biased against Brady and giving all the credit to the other teams QB, it’s honestly quiet sad lol.
yea this channel is the king of bad takes
We are not arguing that we are arguing that he is fucking given credit for great play when really he can't throw farther than five yards fucktards
@@waywardson4964 That’s Cap and The Bucs Got Away With More Calls As Well
@@silliestgoober69 nah He’s Right Cry
Still can’t tell if I can consider Jameis Winston’s 2019 the worst or best QB season ever, 30-30 is just insane
Why would it be best
Brady joins a below 500 team with good upside and is overrated, but Lebron is praised for the same
Brady fans are worst than Nicki Minaj barbs
Missing so much context
@@Recursesyea lebron ring chases
@@timhardaway6501 lebron wasn't drafted to a fucking Dynasty
Guy has been to ten Superbowls. Most never make one.
Are u defending Brady ???
@Mazda 787b NEs defense is the main reason Brady won all those rings
I know we forget because he's not a scumbag but Leonard fournette was also a star running back before being put on the bucs
Also just throwing this out there Brady's passer rating in the playoffs is below 90 and he barely cracks top 20 in the category. He also never won a SB where his defense gave up 30+ points. They say you need to have some luck to win in the NFL and Brady sure has had a lot of it
So how many times did the pats bend your team over?
@@philcartman2216 keyword is TEAM
@@zack1610 so you’re either Seahawks,Falcons or a steelers fan😂. Which one is it? Now ask yourself a question, would you rather have your team’s qb or brady leading a game winning drive in the superbowl?
Tbh Brady isn’t overrated you don’t just make 10 Super Bowls and still be an mvp contender at 43
His durability isn't overrated
@@yk_Its_jax led the league in air distance at 43. Completely debunked your theory
Exactly any other Qb would be retired by now but brady had 44 tds at age 44. Doesn't that count for something?
@@emoo.182 no
@@admincxs1670 let the haters hate I love it. Honestly wish people didn't like Tom Brady as much like they did back in like 2011. Made being a Brady fan even better 🙂
It's weird how much luck one-man has for 20 years. Maybe we should consider alternative hypotheses
Devil Magic
Man can't wait to see all the underrated QB win super bowls.
Dying to see that happen
@@vulcanraven9701 I’m shooting my self in the Foot here or the Jets
Have you ever heard of Nick Foles
@mike james Terry Bradshaw was carried to 4 Super Bowls is it really that hard to believe, especially with what evidence Barry gave us in the video, that Brady has been carried by Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Gronk, Edelman, Ammendola, AB, Evans, and Godwin.
@@jonathanbryant1582 wow all those guys passed to themselves?
Like how when it comes to Aaron Rodgers its always the defense fault. The 2019 NFC champion vs the 49ers it was the defense fault that the offense scored 0 points in the first half. Same for the Falcons game in 2016 that defense caused the offense to score 0 again in the 1st half if only the defense could of made just one stop lmao. How bout the 2014 game vs the Seahawks it was the defense fault for causing 5 turnovers giving great field position for Rodgers to score just fg n give Wilson the ability to comeback n win. Even in 2015 vs the Cardinals the defense held them to 20 points n it took 2 lucky hail mary throws to just tie the game. So the argument that its all the defense fault Rodgers doesn't win is bs. The defense has sucked but was not the only reason the packers lost playoff games. Rodgers hasn't played good either in those games
@Cornelius Malone 2014: the 5 turnovers I mentioned were before the Bostitch play so explain why Rodgers allowed the game to get to that point 2015: it was a bad defense that cost the game no doubt but it took a bit of a miracle for the two long passes on the packers last drive to just tie the game
2016: not saying the defense played good but how are you gonna defend going scoreless in the first half n same against the 49ers in 2019. Not scoring is a definitely reason a team loses
2021: I didn't know King played offense n caused the packers to go scoreless off the turnovers they had in the second half n calls are always being blown it just when you loss you notice them more
@Cornelius Malone bro how are you gonna ignore the chances the offense had to extend the lead. I promise you if you look back at everything prior mainly in the 1st half of that game you see be shocked that the packers didn't have more points
@Cornelius Malone 2015 all I'm saying he didn't play good either. the defense cost them the game no doubt but to only put the blame on them for that lost is wrong it does include him for not playing better
@Cornelius Malone when your so far behind in points, yes you have to play perfect on both ends but it normally impossible. besides that one instance against the Falcons how many teams really could of comeback? I would even put money if you put the same situation even the patriots couldn't repeat that performance. It was just a special performance
@Cornelius Malone I didn't say the defense did bad I said the chances the packers offense had to extend the lead were there but didn't capitalized on the opportunity
I love that he uses the addiction network guy still
You forgot the phantom holding, the no-hold calls, and the defensive PI that was missed in Super Bowl LV. Same happened with the 2020 NFC Championship!
The Packers just played them again. Man I honestly believe the reason the Bucs defense is considered "good" is because of how dirty they play. The amount of fucking holds by them that weren't called is ridiculous. Thank god the Pack still won
@@jesusjimenez3766 Thank you!!
The chiefs defense is notorious for holding.
i'm waiting on brady to not just get a bust in the hall of fame but a entire statue
He'll probably get a whole god damn city named after him!
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
I love these videos and have very little I disagree with. That being said, it was smart of Brady to go the Bucks. Which Barry acknowledges. It just comes across as someone that has never participated in high level sports. The difference between shitty and good coaches at the d1 level is massive. I doubt its a different thing in professional sports, but add in the money and legacy that comes with it. I don't think hes wrong about a single stats thing he has said, he just has no concept of culture. As idiotic as I know that sounds, it is real.
This is why i totally dismiss a video like this one because we talk about football like it is a video game like madden football where a game is won on stat alone. I think you have to look and understand that the game is more than mere stats alone. Football to me is like chess it is not how many piece you have on the board but what you have and where are they located on the board also what are you able to do with them. And i think Brady's game is more mental than physical where the others are probably not as astute on the mental game i do not buy the dink and dunk theory if it was that easy why all the other QB's don't do the same and win a ton of super bowl. I think goes beyound that i always have bee told that luck comes to the one who are prepared.
@@michelleblanc6377 he talks about a lot more than stats
“Human golden retriever “💀💀💀💀
so in your rivers video, when he had historically bad offensive lines(name one good lineman from 2010 to 2017 on the san diego chokers) HE gives up sacks, but when Rodgers, with the best center in the league and still a good line without bahktiari gets sacked its his lines fault?
Billy turner and top 1 DLINE lol
Dudes a Brady hater and he’s probably joking or not trying to make a real point lol it’s just entertainment
@@zebrom7994 it’s sarcasm mixed with some decent points he’s not being serious about everything but some of it is
@@zebrom7994 *Barry presents two videos and 30 minutes worth of facts and statistics showing how Tom Brady is overrated.* You: "He'S jUsT a HaTeR."
Pathetic cope, Brady is the GOAT
Quaterbacks don't luck into 14 conference championship games, 10 Superbowl appearances and 7 Superbowl wins. You can luck into temporary success, you can't luck into it for 20 years.
Tom Bradys career indeed proves that you can luck your way to 10 SBs
@@antonioiniguez1615 this is when the argument stops. You rather belive that he's lucky
@@kingrodney441 yes because that what the facts shows
@@antonioiniguez1615 the facts show that he is one of the greatest players in this sport. The facts show that he has won nearly every possible award for his position including an MVP at the age of 40. To base it all on luck is insulting to how much hard work it takes to win even one superbowl.
@@kingrodney441 The facts show he's the most overrated athlete in sports history. The facts show he's replaceable. The facts show he's done absolutely nothing to show for the goat title.
You really knocked him for doing bad against playoff teams in the regular season, and then winning a superbowl against them smh.
as a brady fan, you shouldn’t really take this serious. he’s clearly not being objective. it’s just entertainment bro.
@@Superdupafool im not a Brady fan its just weirdly not logical
He beat a 7-9 team, a Saints team that imploded offensively, threw 3 ints as the packers defense and o-line choked, and held Mahomes to 9 points.
I realized how you showed the defensive points per drive the Buccs rank with Brady and left out the offensive points per drive with Brady and never did with Jameis Winston
2.11 ---> 2.72
9th -----> 5th relative to the league
The difference in defensive points per drive is far more significant. I'm sure much of it can be attributed to Jameis' insane amount of turnovers
Long story short:
Tom Brady >>>> Jameis Winston. Who knew?
@@CaLbaTr00se thanks for that stat info
@@CaLbaTr00se So if it likely had to do with Jamies insane amount of interceptions than Brady should get a decent amount of credit for the improvement go the Bucs defense right?
@@kevinmoynihan5118 So if what likely had to do with Jameis insane amount of tds? The improvement by the defense or the improvement by defensive points per drive? How much is decent amount of credit and why would he get credit for the improvement of the Bucs defense? He should get credit for not burdening the Bucs defense that much at all especially compared to Winston. But he doesn't play or coach defense
@@lightning10053 Brady was a top 10 QB last year as a whole and was even better after the lost to Kansas City throughout the end of the season. He was an important piece of the Bucs Super Bowl run they wouldn’t have won it with any random average QB
When I saw some of these stats I wonder, “there is no way Rodgers defenses were that bad” then it clicked, they were just bad but because of how good Rodgers was and how often they scored it made really high scoring games because the other team got the ball from Rodgers high scoring
That's why well balanced, smart football is better than high flying explosive passing offenses. Patriots with Brady were always a case study on this, and still fans on social media think they are one Randy Moss from a superbowl when they don't have the O-line, D-line, or ability to control the time at will.
Not rodgers’s fault thought. Packers should have just done better to balance the team.
Man, seeing the stat with Career starts with the team letting up 30+ points hurt my soul as a Saints fan
Rodgers also chokes at times as well
@@falcon2666 but his defense gives away a lot more. Just see the NFC Championship against the Buccaneers.
Tom Brady is the GOAT when it comes to fast and accurate dink and dunk passes. Besides that, there is nothing exceptional about his play. He has decent pocket awareness but he slower than a turtle in the pocket and hardly has any mobility to get outside of the pocket. He basically gets into a fetal position when he is about to get sacked. He has decent arm strength but nothing special. His deep throws are inconsistent. He has always benefited from top 10 defenses, great o-lines, great kickers, great coaching, and ref favoritism his entire career. Oh, and let's not forget he had Gronk, who is arguably the best tight end of all time. He is an above average quarterback who was put in the best situations to be successful. There are many more talented quarterbacks who could have achieved Brady's level of success if not more success if they were in his shoes. Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner, Dan Marino to name a few
your first 5 words were the only accurate part of this drivel
In Super Bowl 55, the Bucs scored about what most other teams who played against the Chiefs did that year.
Bucs defense won the game. It shouldn’t change the conversation about Brady that much.
That's wrong.
@@RockinRobb01 In the regular season, Chiefs’ opponents scored an average of 29.94 points per game. The Bucs scored 31 in the Super Bowl.
@@aguy559 No... it was 22.6 points per game.
The Bucs defense scored 31 points? They were the only QB in NFL history to average 30+ PPG in 4 playoff games?
Maybe you shouldn't opine on football..
@@umdmustang9254 They held the Chiefs to 9, gave the offense 17 against the Saints, and held strong after Tom threw 3 picks. Any good QB wins all 3 of those games.
Barry: Tom is a overrated player
Tom: *too busy looking at his 7 rings to hear Barry talking*
Clearly didn’t listen to any factual statements Barry made.
@@ATP2317 clearly don’t see Toms 7 rings that no other QB has
@@King_Boo_5 I guess you haven’t seen Brady get bailed out by his defense
@@ATP2317 guess you still don’t see the 7 rings, the amount of excuses people have to give to downplay Tom Brady’s greatness is laughable
@@King_Boo_5 it’s laughable that people really think Brady is better than Rodgers💀
What if it's all rigged to favor Brady? Just thought I throw that one out there. The world may never know.
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
I've said it multiple times and I will never stop saying it, the 2020 Buccs are a microcosm of Tom's whole career and that isn't a compliment
You heard it here folks! Winning is a bad thing.
@@deathstar754 when u get all the credit then yeah
@@deathstar754 winning isn’t bad. But good lord how many lucky breaks can you get? The Chiefs OLine collapsed in time for the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had everything to do with that, right?
@@blakeharris58 The Tampa Bay Buccaneers won Superbowl 55. Tom Brady just so happens to be the QB that lead the team to victory.
@@williamli6200 Most probably. Everytime Rodgers screws up, it's never his fault.
The thing I hate the most about Tom Brady is that his impact on the NFL is overwhelmingly negative. Its because of him that everybody acts like the quarterback is solely responsible for wins and losses. If Brady didn't have such an extremely long streak of good luck and a great system, actually talented quarterbacks like Manning and Rodgers wouldn't be called "chokers". At least when it was Montana vs Marino, nobody reduces Marino's legacy to "just a choker".
do you know how many pics payton manning has thrown in the play offs? he was a great regular season qb, but in the clutch occasionally he would crumble.
Who said Peyton is a chocker? Mahomes? Wilson? Shall I continue? Others can be great or good. He is just the best. And obviously people focus on the best. Plus he is still playing.
@@AromaBlue notice how i only said peyton. look at his early performances in the playoffs, and aaron rodgers has only made the superbowl once. arguable the most talented qb at the time in the nfc and constantly misses the superbowl.
Yea and if you look at the stats objectively it contributes to the whole theory of the NFL being fake like WWE now. legally classified as an "entertainment" league rather than a sports league
@@gordonramsay5187 you're point? Dan Marino only made the super bowl once and got destroyed. So is he not one of the best ever?
I really want Rob Parker to see this and 100% believe that he was right all along
Rob Parker is a tool just like Barry.
0:33 how did Tom Brady weasle his way out of New England when Belichick didn't want him there for at least 3 years. Also he had trash receivers his last year.
Read the prompt
And he lost that year
@@seanfemia2288 so did cam and so is Mac jones
@@kiryukazuma8229 that doesn't go against my point
The thing is though, you cannot put numbers on leadership style and the effect Tom would have on teammates....I mean in my own limited experience, I play harder when I have better teammates ESPECIALLY when I had a quarterback that didn't make my life a living hell as a defensive player
Leadership doesn't mean anything BECAUSE you can't put numbers on it
@@antonioiniguez1615 Tell Tim Duncan that with his 5 rings and mediocre stats (for a legend his stats don't jump off the page or anything)
@@raymondfrisbie8084 I don't know anything about basketball
@@antonioiniguez1615 Hmmmm.....The only guys that really come to mind as of right now are JJ Watt and Larry Fitz....they aren't theyre productive selves anymore but they are great guys to have in the locker room for several reasons and there is no statistical way to statistically account for that....I would love to see a documentary on Tom's career one day just like the one that came out about Michel Jordan some years ago to help us get a glympse of Tom's actual lockeroom pressence
@@raymondfrisbie8084 How does them being in the locker room make them better players? The only things that make someone good at Playing football are things that are measurable through numbers and that happen while playing football. Someone like Fitz isn't worth keeping around because of how good he is, but to be a mentor.
He said Brady has insane luck but really it just teams making mistakes against like do against every other team
Congratulations, you have defined the word Luck.
@@USALeonHeart "you're lucky because I fucked up and should've won." - The excuse of every loser in not only sports, but life in general.
@@breakthechains5931 yeah I'm sure you're a real winner
@@USALeonHeart well we all know you arent
It's funny u gave Brady credit for choosing the bucks when it turns out he wanted to be a raider or a dolphin more but only went to buccs as a last shot
Packers: Shit the bed in the NFC championship
Announcers: Tom Brady does it again!
Barry McCockiner - Urban Dictionary
Thank god someone is putting light to this. Tom brady is easily the most overrated, overhyped player up there with eli manning both are praise by there fanbases for being gods and savior's despite the fact they are both lucky both no one ever mentions that. They never mention their poor games it's like everyone tries to overlook it.
13:41 BRUH MY DAD LEGIT SAID THAT. HE SAID RIGHT AFTER THAT EXACT PLAY THAT BRADY WAS CARRYING THE TEAM AND THAT HE JUST SOLIDIFIED HIMSELF AS THE GOAT. that's crazy
he conveniently didn’t include the 30 yard pass play to gronk right before that run lmfao this video is pathetic
@@MightyWhitey9 Tom Brady stan?
@@MightyWhitey9 I know right? There is so much this dude left out and only included very specific plays for his narrative lol.
Brady is the goat though.
@@James-df3ut i’m just pointing out facts lmao. the perspective in this is as one sided as it possibly can be. there are legit arguments you can have against brady’s game but the idea that he’s been to 10 superbowls because of luck is absurd. that’s not how luck works lol
I know you're coming in with the Facts, but you have a massive hateboner for Brady...and I love it!
I hate the guy but I can’t deny his success
@@cinemapigeon4898 Malding
Weaseled out of a contract? He was a free agent.
Winning is the thing that matters, 50 years from now people will barely remember Dan Marino, people say he got the best arm.
Brady didn't have the strongest arm, this is football not far throwing contest, performing at the times that mattered most is what makes you a legend.
Winning is a 60 minute long process with at least 22 people collectively playing together to win. Winning doesn't make someone a legend, it makes the team legends sure, but winning cannot make an individual person a legend as they do not control the other 21 ppl on their team or the 22 on the opposite. I can't say he doesn't "show up" when it matters most, but a lot of the games he's given the opportunity many times to show up thanks to luck, special teams, and defenses, like the 28-3, he brought them back sure, but the defense literally let up 0 points in the second half to make it possible, more than just him to win
doesn't matter who they remember if he isn't even the best Brady fans are just exposed every video by this dude
Winning is a team stat idioy
@@devanmcghee6123 perfectly said
Brady fanboy
I hate Tom Brady. I’m a jets fan and he kicked our asses twice a year every year on the pats. Still I have to recognize that he may be the greatest to ever play.
He's one of the absolute best if he isn't the greatest of all time (I don't really believe in GOATs for sports like football). Still, he's lucky as fuck and his fanboys constantly dismiss his support just to prop him up a bit more as if he even needs their defense.
@@CaLbaTr00se no such thing as “luck” in sports.
@@user-kn3st7gd3e No one who is involved in team sports ever says that unless they are trying to motivate themselves to eliminate external influences to their psyche.
That's just some grade A bullshit that sports analysts and fans that have never played team-oriented games of any sort say, or it's semantics.
I’m a Brady fan and I will admit he gets *way* too much credit whenever they win rather than the whole team getting credit.
Fax
I think its a well articulated take, but at a certain point if one person encounters so much "Luck" over the course of twenty years/two teams...maybe its at least a *little* reflective of the person themselves?
I dont think Brady is the the best ever at any one particular aspect of being a quarterback but continuing to do what he's doing at his age is remarkable (Plus, I don't recall Barry docking Manning for getting his second ring with a stacked new team?)
Manning, Marino, Rodgers, Young are undoubtedly more talented but at some point Brady's success is undeniable
Luck mixed with cheating
@@skyeangelofdeath7363 He didn't not say that Brady was a bad QB overall, but if you were putting together a team. Would you pick Tom Brady over Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees?
@@bwareist None, I'm picking Steve Young
ah yes "if there's one thing Brady doesn't love to do it chase the young" that doesn't sound wrong in any way at all
The man did it with no names for most of his career. The man changed teams and won the title. Ask the other QBs would they rather have those better stats or the titles. He's the Goat! Heck,He beat Father Time! Mic Drop!
ok Jayla Michaels.
He has the stats too, he has every single all time psssing record and 7 rings, combined with the highest winning percentage of all time
I get I’m late but no names? Wes Welker Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski were First Team All-Pro multiple times and Julian Edelman is a Super Bowl MVP and that’s just off the top of my head. Checking Google I also found Matthew Slater Matt Light and Logan Mankins, and that’s just the First Team All Pros on offense for the Patriots. Brady has also had a good number of First Team All-Pro defenders and a total of 37 Pro Bowl teammates on the Patriots according to Pro Football Reference. Brady is the GOAT but we can’t act like quarterbacks like Dan Marino Drew Brees Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes and others wouldn’t have at least five rings with this much talent.
You can have as good a system as you want, but if the players don’t execute it means absolutely nothing.
@@cleamonjones4057 the vikings
@@cleamonjones4057 packers 2011
@@cleamonjones4057 ✌ Yes! The 2010 Chargers were LOADED and had arguably THE best team in the NFL yet lost the first round of the playoffs. The 2016 Cowboys. The Saints damn near EVERY year.😂 Another example just recently was the 2019-2020 49ers. Arguably had THE best team in the NFL and performed HORRIBLY in the Super Bowl 🥴🤷🏾♂. You must be young or you don't watch much football...
@@cleamonjones4057 also the 92, 93, 94, 95 Bills. 😂
This guy: *clearly he hates Brady*
Its actually unhealthy at this point
brady lives rent free in his head man
@@Ofthehunt yeah cause every Brady Stan in existence can’t understand why he’s a luck system qb
@@jessica55880 Barry is a loser who got his comeup as a Twitter troll lol.
Brady: gets the ball at the 1 yard line
Announcer: what a drive by Brady!!!
Yeah cmon guys we all know Mark Sanchez is the goat
I used to be a brady hater but cmon, after this regular season hes proven that hes still a great QB
He changed
He’s great but is he the goat?
@@JosephMensman i would say yes.
Yeah he's great. Top 5 maybe. He's not the Goat though. No way, no how.
@@el34glo59 he’s the GOAT of QB’s. I tried to fight it for so long cuz Montana was my idol but he is the GOAT of QB’s.
As a Bucs fan I'm just here for the free salt.
@@youtubegm3227 Brady has usually been greater than his team. The difference is that he sacrifices talent on the offense to have great defenses and takes pay cuts to have good teams who can win. I hate when Rodgers fans complain about shitty teammates when Aaron’s contract sucks money from the front office to get better talent(Although that front office has done some terrible stuff tho). Most of the qbs Brady is compared to on this list had better offensive weapons and/or coaches. Meanwhile Brady has put up some mvp caliber seasons with mostly 7th round and un drafted receivers. Even though he had Gronk he’s only had him less than half his career
That random Jameis Winston stat of more 50+ yards TD passes than Brady with only 1 attempt had me laughing way harder than it should have.
Putting a very good QB on a very good team doesn’t make him overrated, it makes him highly rated
@Barry Allen if he were bad on a very good team he’d be overrated. If he were very good on a very bad team he’d likely be underrated. If he’s good and on a good team he’s just highly rated
I also remembering everyone saying TB was awful. That his offensive line sucked and the defense couldn't stop a wet paper towel and that they were gonna go 8-8 tops. All of a sudden it's a super team and Brady is just lucky. Even though there was no pre season or time to practice with his new team and had to be learn everything on the go. But whatever excuse people want to make
@@stevengrant4117 Bro what? All you would ever hear about was how perfect of a match up Tom and Tampa were. Tampa's Receiving core was enticing to a QB bitching about receivers all season. Plus that D-line and linebackers that were already known for what they could do. It's a good team. But wait Brady wants Gronk, he gets that. Then Fournette gets cut and goes to Tampa, then AB that's when the super team talk came into play. Name any other team that stacked
There giving Brady more credit than he deserves
@@scalamaski lol who in the league deserves more credit?
"Is he the anti-christ? One can only wonder..."
Wouldn't be surprised
So Tom Brady is not the reason Tampa won the super bowl but Jameis Winston is the reason they had a losing record?
When you throw more than 30 INTs it has disastrous effects on both offence and defence. Brady’s Def stepped up and won.
@@cleamonjones4057 Yeah and Brady's leadership helped elevate the team as well. Defense was incredible but I doubt they would have made the superbowl with anyother quarterback
BUT MUH STATS AND STYLE POINTS
They mean nothing when you don’t win. Just admit it dude, your team got bootyblasted year after year by the same guy
What a terrifying guy, definitely wouldn't want to face the guy that threw 3 picks in the nfc championship
@@tomrod1949 rodgers faced him and loss
@@tomrod1949 and yet still won not only that game, but the next game too...hmm
@Barry Allen stfu Barry you know nuthin!!
Barry Allen you saying that... says the contrary big guy. Hahaha such a angry casual
What i got most from those stats at the end was more that Aaron Rogers is really unlucky
Aaron rodgers is tom brady without a team around him.
@@zakh-g4893 even worse, the guy is a way better player than Brady but his team doesn't help him
@@narufan987 Rodgers vs brady isn't a fair comparison. That's lebron vs robert horry
@@tomrod1949 yeah I guess that's kinda a better comparison.
Tom and Horry are very good & clutch players, who also were smart enough to be in teams that didn't need them to carry the whole thing.
Lebron and Rodgers don't have as many rings as the other guys, but they're both extremely talented players who (most of the time) weren't in super teams & thus had to do a fuckton just to stay competitive
@@zakh-g4893 rodgers was in the same nfc title game as Brady in the redzone down 8 with 2 minutes left
failed 3 times to get into the endzone then kicked a field goal
you don't win settling for field goals like a pussy sorry kid
You forgot something else about Brady! All of his cult members love to point out how he's still doing this at his advanced age, yet I've never heard of any QB his age who has a team constructed especially for him and an offensive scheme that was created especially for his skill set.
You know I actually agree with you. If you take out all of the accolades, statistics, and literally every actual football player calling him the goat, then yeah he is overrated. Why is this even in my feed? This is made for like people who are brain dead.
Debunk anything he said
@@antonioiniguez1615 Are you serious? Watch football. Do literally the basic amount of research. Watch interviews. If you don't think Tom Brady is the goat, you don't know anything about football.
@@jcore0981 I've researched this specific topic for many hours. I've done in depth looks. My conclusion is that Brady is the most overrated athlete in sports history and isn't top 10 on the all time list. Name one reason for Brady being the goat
@@jcore0981 maybe if people stop being a shill for Brady and the NFL, then maybe people will shut up like you wanted them to do.
@@antonioiniguez1615 clearly you haven't done it enough. People are like"oh he's dink and dunk" oh he has a " good defense" if it was that easy why doesn't any qb with a good defense do "dink and dunk" and make it to 10 superbowls? People only look at the tangibles and are like oh yeah any qb can do what he does. Brady is a very talented QB(Not the most talented but still very talented) what seperates him from the rest are his intangibles, his leadership, his clutch factor the fact that he's won with scrub recievers over and over again. Brady in his prime had a cannon arm and he still has one.
To Chase the young💀 you got my sub bro😂 and omg watching the Packers O-line just do nothing Rodgers had to scramble immediately
most good sports youtubers make it clear they're checking their bias, let the facts guide their content, and give nuanced takes that acknowledge the good and bad in a player/coach/team. i appreciate that this channel doesn't do that
It would be hilarious if Skip Bayless sees this video 😂
bro we need a debate between Skip and Barry, skip absolutely hates Rodgers and LeBron while he loves Brady and Barry hates Brady and thinks LeBron and Rodgers is the goat
Facts. Thank God you broke this down. Dude gets all the credit, none of the blame. Beats a crap team, he's a god. Throws INTs, defense steps up. Then the luck comes out of nowhere somehow. It's insane. And don't even get me started on the Packers game. You said it all
I feel you have to be pretty lucky to have 20 winning seasons, and 7 super bowl victories. Like impossibly lucky.
I honestly cant tell if this is sarcasm
@@SLEEP-nt2yp it is
Literally, and in the video he didn’t seem to address the fact that he said Tom is a system player even though he moved into an offense that was not fully suited towards his play style
if Kevin King didn’t allowed that touchdown Against the bucks in the last second of the half the packers would of been in the super bowl and it was out of Tom Brady’s control
*Bucs
The Brady hate ooozes lmfao
It's completely justified tho
Nah lmfao the man is the undisputed goat
@@andrewdvries8209 Whatever you call him, he clearly isn’t the best QB ever
@@andrewdvries8209 You ignoring the video on purpose? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂