this channel is monstrously underrated!, many people would like some AI generated content with fancy graphics and utopian fairy tales about millions of habitable exoplanets and endless alien civilizations (which is usually full of misinformation) rather than someone who speaks logically
@@lexa7250of course you're defending AI Slop channels feeding false information and shitty research this guy is a real guy who speaks real information not a hallucinating machine
Ngl if one of those things had life that would be even worse, imagine swimming in its seas and diving down and seeing a moving mass that puts something the size of Godzilla to shame, you are so tiny in comparison it would’t even notice. If it’s lifeless you see nothing, endless darkness, virtually forever.
Creating a fictional universe and I think I've "settled" on having a hycean planet that has a captured moon like Earth where my setting will take place all thanks to your clarifications!
Idea for your universe lore: If there is intelligent life on the moon, and if they have the technology...imagine if they deposited their world's hardiest life forms into the hycean planet to essentially use it as a giant space terrarium, in order to study how life would mutate and evolve in such a vastly different environment.
That would make it less of a planet-moon system and more of binary planet system type deal. The center of mass would probobly be in between the planets, makeing them orbit a dead point in space.
It seems customary to depict ice giants as nearly featureless, but I understand that Neptune and Uranus are that way mainly because their colder temperatures don't foster much wind/turbulence. I'm guessing temperate ice giants have more interesting visible cloud structures. But Idunno. Venus is pretty boring looking from above, and it's neither cold, nor even an ice giant.
One of your next videos should be "Flying in the atmospheres of temperate ice giants." I've always been fascinated by the idea of non-earth like planets holding a temperate and earth like atmosphere many kilometers in their skies.
Hello there, Kyplanet. Did saw some of your content recently and has a lot of good points, most particularly about not-so-habitable planets and J1407b (the former was the first one I've watched). Also, maybe you should make a video about *"blanets",* a sort of exotic type of planets formed around or orbiting a black hole, just proposin'.
Life on my fictional planet, Alfallia, use a fictional hydrogenic respiration due to the fact it is a hycean planet: 12(H2) + C6H12O6 --> 6(CH4) + 6(H2O) Hydrogen + Glucose --> Methane + Water
It would be fascinating to study the process of a hycean world over time post human contact. As it slowly becomes populated with different life forms due to human error and conservation efforts breaking down. Even after years and bacteria and microfauna and algae have made their way into the planet and are thriving, would there just be chunks where no algae could grow, because the bacteria/microfauna for whatever reason haven't spread there yet.
The other problem for hycean planets hosting life is that if there oceans are so deep you start getting things like ice 10 forming which can be solid at room temperature and could continue even further down for hundreds of miles. I don’t know if that would seal away nutrients from underwater volcanism but it could make it more challenging for them to be accessible to living things. (Although you’re absolutely right about planets not needing life to be really interesting, as having pressure ice continuing for hundreds of miles does sound pretty interesting) Most nutrients in the earth’s oceans come from erosion on land, rivers and lakes bringing in minerals, nitrogen, etc. so I wouldn’t be surprised if, even if there was life on a hycean planet, it was limited in its scale
I love that you use proper names for exoplanets But I like hycean pronunciation more than haishan, it sounds more scientific, like some latin or greek term😁
Damn I wish governments weren’t so stingy with their space budgeting. Like cmon! Let’s get a swarm of big telescopes up there NAUTILUS style! Get some multi-pixel images of these places, or at least find out if they have moons! It’d cost less money to do that than is spent on chips in 6 months.
I know someone that said something like "The governments should focus on the real problems here and not waste money on this useless space stuff". You see, everybody has different opinions and priorities. Government has to balance everything out. Please consider that next time. Not all people would be happy like you.
@@CultReport Yeah you’re right, I’m sure if they doubled NASA’s budget from 0.3% to 0.6% and took it off of the military Russia and China would immediately smell weakness and invade, and the US would be hapless to stop them
@@ldubt4494 Never said it was a realistic wish. But in a perfect world there would be plenty of resources to dedicate to scientific pursuits. Also, people who say that are idiots. Our modern world is built on space related technologies.
Lol world-building an entire planet and having it remain within the realm of what is physically possible, is perhaps one of the most difficult things you can do.
Thank you for your interesting video. To be nitpicking, we are not sure that the orbit of Harriot is elliptic. The fit of its orbital data is OK with an ellipticity parameter \epsilon between zero and 0.4. Planets between the mass of Neptune (an ice giant) and Saturn (a gas giant) are interesting, in my opinion, because we do not know the internal structure. How does the transition between a "ice" mantle and a liquid hydrogen mantle take place, for example?
Maybe use HDR mode for the filming? i'ts not realistic but i think it would be better. A bit annoying to see realistic lighting on the planets, video looks empty. But great information & definitely a great channel for spitting facts and non clickbait stuff.😊
Hey so in starfield I found a moon of a gas giant that had breathable air and an extremely long day and night cycle not tidally locked to its host. I figured it was being squeezed and pulled by its gravity or something and was generating heat geomagnetically since there's lots of icey volcanoes at its poles, and soft jungle deserts around the equator. Edit: the deserts and jungles are in a weird ring around the equator with oceans between its poles Here's my question, how likely is it that a gas giant moon could form this way? And could it happen at all? Three other moons had a similar oxygen rich atmosphere but none of them were habitable like this one.
The environment you described with a desert and jungle in a ring around the equator actually is what a life-supporting tidally locked planet would look like, except the ring would be between the day and night sides, and it may or may not have an ocean on the day side (superheated) or a gigantic ice cap on the night side.
I got a sorta unrelated question, but... why haven't scientists tried to make an EHT-style earth's-orbit-spanning exoplanet telescope? the concept of the EHT was fantastic so it's a mystery to me why we wouldn't want to use the design concept to detect things other than black holes.
people hear the Fermi “Paradox” and jump to fearmongering about great filters and dark forests, when in reality life might maybe just be kind of rare. Besides, we’ve been looking for less than a century, calm down, folks.
what if there are no planets. let imagine expedition that takes 100s of years and it suddenly appears that the planet was a calculation mistake. Like black spots on Google Maps or errors copied by Google from older maps.
Oh my god i just realised you have the exact same voice as whatifalthist wtf. Edit: For some reason people dislike whatifalthist? And are by extension insulting the creator of this excellent video. Y?
a temporate ice giant could have a single large moon that is habitible rather then many small moons, food for thought, if a ice giant has a ratio like earth and its moon. well. think about that for a bit.
@@notjebbutstillakerbal wanna go exotic? a universe with more elements could have a magnetic ore causing floating islands to occur on ice and gas giants, thus said ice giants and gas giants could have floating islands and continents that are covered in flora, rivers, seas, that are above the clouds. fun. and plate tectonics occur cause the land masses ride the planet's magenetic fields
How do we know hycean planets wouldn't have volcanic activity? There's no way of knowing how deep the crust of these planets are and what forces act upon them, or how they act. What if gravitational forces from the currents in their very deep, very massive oceans cause increased volcanic activity instead? We have no idea.
hycean planets would have oceans hundreds or thousands of miles deep, where the pressures at the bottom would bury any crust it had with layers of pressurized ice so from what i understand any volcanic activity would be unable to actually reach the ocean
@@Kyplanet893 Compressed ice, silicate rock, what have you, volcanism doesn't care what the crust is made of, it will still spew compounds from deeper within the planet into the ocean.
1:30 I'm guessing Haitian planets are called Haitian because like Haiti if you go there you will get barbequed. This comment is definitely getting hidden😂.
Anybody else wish that gas giants weren’t classified as planets? The fact that trying to “land” any sort of vehicle on them would essentially be like flying through clouds indefinitely just kills my interest in them. Pluto, something we could actually land a rover on in the near future isn’t a planet, but a gigantic circular fart cloud is???
Why is your definition of 'planet' based on landing a vehicle? Should comet 67p be classified as a planet because the Philae lander touched down on it? Strange criteria
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"A planet doesn't have to have life to be interesting"
Exactly! More videos on planets like these Hyceans would be so cool.
this channel is monstrously underrated!, many people would like some AI generated content with fancy graphics and utopian fairy tales about millions of habitable exoplanets and endless alien civilizations (which is usually full of misinformation) rather than someone who speaks logically
Humans are emotional creatures, u should know this Mr logical
@@lexa7250
I know it, and I believe it's a bug, not a feature
Yeah no one covers exoplanets quite like this guy
@@lexa7250of course you're defending AI Slop channels feeding false information and shitty research
this guy is a real guy who speaks real information
not a hallucinating machine
@@lexa7250 "you deserve to be silenced, crap liberal. you deserve to be bombarded with hate speech!" - admin シンジョ
I fear no planet.
But that thing.
_(Completely lifeless Planets with endless rain wind and water over oceans thousands of miles deep)_
*It scares me.*
Ngl if one of those things had life that would be even worse, imagine swimming in its seas and diving down and seeing a moving mass that puts something the size of Godzilla to shame, you are so tiny in comparison it would’t even notice. If it’s lifeless you see nothing, endless darkness, virtually forever.
Yeah….”Nope” is my only response to that idea.
@@berkiaskyclan2948 I wonder what the surface of the water would look like? Provided there are no moons or crust and landmasses to break on.
Basically the premise of subnautica, right? Aside from the lifeless part.
Like the Earth’s oceans but bass boosted.
A Hycean planet would be a "water giant" then? That's really cool
That really is cool!
Creating a fictional universe and I think I've "settled" on having a hycean planet that has a captured moon like Earth where my setting will take place all thanks to your clarifications!
Idea for your universe lore: If there is intelligent life on the moon, and if they have the technology...imagine if they deposited their world's hardiest life forms into the hycean planet to essentially use it as a giant space terrarium, in order to study how life would mutate and evolve in such a vastly different environment.
That would make it less of a planet-moon system and more of binary planet system type deal. The center of mass would probobly be in between the planets, makeing them orbit a dead point in space.
It seems customary to depict ice giants as nearly featureless, but I understand that Neptune and Uranus are that way mainly because their colder temperatures don't foster much wind/turbulence. I'm guessing temperate ice giants have more interesting visible cloud structures.
But Idunno. Venus is pretty boring looking from above, and it's neither cold, nor even an ice giant.
Venus at least has that cool "7" swirl going on from time to time
Probably just hazy
Don't foster wind? Look up the strongest winds in our solar system, you might be surprised...
Neptune has the strongest winds (up to 2000 kms/h) of all planets in the Solar System in its upper atmosphere!
One of your next videos should be "Flying in the atmospheres of temperate ice giants." I've always been fascinated by the idea of non-earth like planets holding a temperate and earth like atmosphere many kilometers in their skies.
I like your made-up terms. Keep rockin it man
hycean planet is a real term lol
@@Kyplanet893in some other videos, I thought you had created terms for some things at points. I wasn't specifically referring to the term hycean
ah alr
thanks
Hello there, Kyplanet. Did saw some of your content recently and has a lot of good points, most particularly about not-so-habitable planets and J1407b (the former was the first one I've watched). Also, maybe you should make a video about *"blanets",* a sort of exotic type of planets formed around or orbiting a black hole, just proposin'.
bro is my new fav space youtuber
Life on my fictional planet, Alfallia, use a fictional hydrogenic respiration due to the fact it is a hycean planet:
12(H2) + C6H12O6 --> 6(CH4) + 6(H2O)
Hydrogen + Glucose --> Methane + Water
@simonx760 Methane photosynthesis:
6(CH4) + 6(H2O) --> C6H12O6 + 12(H2)
@simonx760 I said, methane and water from methane photosynthesis, herbivores eat the plants and then respire using the glucose
Unfortunately, since hydrogen-carbon bonds have higher energy than oxygen-carbon bonds, that reaction might absorb energy instead of releasing it.
Endothermic reaction lmao. Skill issue
Yeah that won't release energy
It would be fascinating to study the process of a hycean world over time post human contact. As it slowly becomes populated with different life forms due to human error and conservation efforts breaking down. Even after years and bacteria and microfauna and algae have made their way into the planet and are thriving, would there just be chunks where no algae could grow, because the bacteria/microfauna for whatever reason haven't spread there yet.
The other problem for hycean planets hosting life is that if there oceans are so deep you start getting things like ice 10 forming which can be solid at room temperature and could continue even further down for hundreds of miles. I don’t know if that would seal away nutrients from underwater volcanism but it could make it more challenging for them to be accessible to living things. (Although you’re absolutely right about planets not needing life to be really interesting, as having pressure ice continuing for hundreds of miles does sound pretty interesting)
Most nutrients in the earth’s oceans come from erosion on land, rivers and lakes bringing in minerals, nitrogen, etc. so I wouldn’t be surprised if, even if there was life on a hycean planet, it was limited in its scale
I love that you use proper names for exoplanets
But I like hycean pronunciation more than haishan, it sounds more scientific, like some latin or greek term😁
Keep up the great work dude! Your videos are awesome
Damn I wish governments weren’t so stingy with their space budgeting. Like cmon! Let’s get a swarm of big telescopes up there NAUTILUS style! Get some multi-pixel images of these places, or at least find out if they have moons! It’d cost less money to do that than is spent on chips in 6 months.
they also have countries on earth to defend on earth
I know someone that said something like "The governments should focus on the real problems here and not waste money on this useless space stuff". You see, everybody has different opinions and priorities. Government has to balance everything out. Please consider that next time. Not all people would be happy like you.
@@CultReport Yeah you’re right, I’m sure if they doubled NASA’s budget from 0.3% to 0.6% and took it off of the military Russia and China would immediately smell weakness and invade, and the US would be hapless to stop them
@@ldubt4494 Never said it was a realistic wish. But in a perfect world there would be plenty of resources to dedicate to scientific pursuits.
Also, people who say that are idiots. Our modern world is built on space related technologies.
@@ldubt4494 the US' military budget:
Me: *creating a worldbuilding of semi-snowball habitable planet*
This video: *pops out*
Lol world-building an entire planet and having it remain within the realm of what is physically possible, is perhaps one of the most difficult things you can do.
I know, that's why I don't have to be too scientifically plausible to create it (also I can use universe sandbox to some extent)
Yay, cool exoplanet stuff! :D
Imagine the life that would be there, no fossil record.
That planet is so bright blue, looks amazing, although you couldn’t survive it
They might not be able to start live but we could.
4:10 besides I don't think ice giants can't support life in any way
Forget colonizing moon/ mars/ venus/ mercury
We colonizing this!
People say colonizing a planet made out of gas isn't possible, IT IS but you just need gassy humans and make the colony out of gas and ur done
thanks for the video :)
keep up the awesome videos man, gj
banana
Can you talk about more planets that no one really talks about
I've already proposed "blanets", or better to say "black hole planets".
I am guessing that the moons of temperate giants could be a very likely candidate to harbor life
Thank you for your interesting video.
To be nitpicking, we are not sure that the orbit of Harriot is elliptic. The fit of its orbital data is OK with an ellipticity parameter \epsilon between zero and 0.4.
Planets between the mass of Neptune (an ice giant) and Saturn (a gas giant) are interesting, in my opinion, because we do not know the internal structure. How does the transition between a "ice" mantle and a liquid hydrogen mantle take place, for example?
Would love to see videos about Europa and Enceladus
i think its possible brahe and harriot are an intermediate type of planet between ice and gas giants
You speak so fast, that I needed to check if it wasn't speeded up. :0
Maybe use HDR mode for the filming? i'ts not realistic but i think it would be better. A bit annoying to see realistic lighting on the planets, video looks empty. But great information & definitely a great channel for spitting facts and non clickbait stuff.😊
i prefer the realistic lighting, feels realer
No thanks, I like it when planets actually look like they’re supposed to
Hey so in starfield I found a moon of a gas giant that had breathable air and an extremely long day and night cycle not tidally locked to its host. I figured it was being squeezed and pulled by its gravity or something and was generating heat geomagnetically since there's lots of icey volcanoes at its poles, and soft jungle deserts around the equator. Edit: the deserts and jungles are in a weird ring around the equator with oceans between its poles
Here's my question, how likely is it that a gas giant moon could form this way? And could it happen at all? Three other moons had a similar oxygen rich atmosphere but none of them were habitable like this one.
The environment you described with a desert and jungle in a ring around the equator actually is what a life-supporting tidally locked planet would look like, except the ring would be between the day and night sides, and it may or may not have an ocean on the day side (superheated) or a gigantic ice cap on the night side.
@WinVisten one day there is like 200 earth days
I got a sorta unrelated question, but... why haven't scientists tried to make an EHT-style earth's-orbit-spanning exoplanet telescope? the concept of the EHT was fantastic so it's a mystery to me why we wouldn't want to use the design concept to detect things other than black holes.
Have you made a video about volcanic/tectonically active planets
If only these exoplanets were more analyzed, they seem to be really cool
Do you think you would be able to include subtitles in your videos?
Harriot if it is as massive as saturn could have large moons which could host life?
does trappist 1g count🤔
trappist-1g does not have a thick atmosphere and is a rocky planet
First UA-cam video was Uploaded only 1 Day after yours!!!😊😮
Have you done a video on TOI 700 yet? If so please do? It's my (new) favorite system.
i talked about toi 700 d (and mentioned c) in my last video but i haven’t made a dedicated video on it yet
@@Kyplanet893 thanks! I'll go find your last video
@@Kyplanet893you should also take a look at e, maybe
people hear the Fermi “Paradox” and jump to fearmongering about great filters and dark forests, when in reality life might maybe just be kind of rare. Besides, we’ve been looking for less than a century, calm down, folks.
what if there are no planets. let imagine expedition that takes 100s of years and it suddenly appears that the planet was a calculation mistake. Like black spots on Google Maps or errors copied by Google from older maps.
Highly unlikely and can easily be disproven with amount of confirmed transitions and actual recordings of exoplanet's eclipsing stars.
Oh my god i just realised you have the exact same voice as whatifalthist wtf.
Edit: For some reason people dislike whatifalthist? And are by extension insulting the creator of this excellent video. Y?
Not really, whatifaltist sounds more autistic, this guy sounds natural
what a horrible thing to say to somebody, wtf
It’s his backup plan once his main channel goes under
@@AnarchoCatBoyEthanhow
it's username says everything. Not a human being with a valuable opinion. @@notjebbutstillakerbal
a temporate ice giant could have a single large moon that is habitible rather then many small moons, food for thought, if a ice giant has a ratio like earth and its moon. well. think about that for a bit.
This is my kind of world building
@@notjebbutstillakerbal wanna go exotic? a universe with more elements could have a magnetic ore causing floating islands to occur on ice and gas giants, thus said ice giants and gas giants could have floating islands and continents that are covered in flora, rivers, seas, that are above the clouds. fun. and plate tectonics occur cause the land masses ride the planet's magenetic fields
@@kennycarter5682 THIS IS SUCH A COOL IDEA,,, You should def write about this in a story idea or something
You sound really Californian
I have a race in my scfi universe called the thine we're there home world is an ice giant
4:10 i personally think it's there just not biological. Maybe its something to do with alien chemistry.
5:27 perfect for silicon life.
7:21 there's a theory that radioactive decay could cause abiogenesis although it is very very burried.
How do we know hycean planets wouldn't have volcanic activity? There's no way of knowing how deep the crust of these planets are and what forces act upon them, or how they act. What if gravitational forces from the currents in their very deep, very massive oceans cause increased volcanic activity instead? We have no idea.
According to the papers i've found, these massive superearths and hycean planets, if anything, are MORE likely to exhibit volcanism for longer.
hycean planets would have oceans hundreds or thousands of miles deep, where the pressures at the bottom would bury any crust it had with layers of pressurized ice
so from what i understand any volcanic activity would be unable to actually reach the ocean
@@Kyplanet893 Compressed ice, silicate rock, what have you, volcanism doesn't care what the crust is made of, it will still spew compounds from deeper within the planet into the ocean.
@@Kyplanet893 If anything, large amounts of subducting compressed water ice could cause more complex geochemistry to occur.
@@Kyplanet893 The water ice isn't covering the crust and volcanism. It IS the crust and volcanism.
Like with all things real exoplanets are more interesting
Ah yes hundreds or thousands of miles deep oceans. Nightmare fuel
1:30 I'm guessing Haitian planets are called Haitian because like Haiti if you go there you will get barbequed. This comment is definitely getting hidden😂.
Lol
He means Hycean and that's how you pronounce it apparently
@@janajusimi269 i know i was making a joke. Thanks for the input though.
Nah i'd settle
Anybody else wish that gas giants weren’t classified as planets? The fact that trying to “land” any sort of vehicle on them would essentially be like flying through clouds indefinitely just kills my interest in them. Pluto, something we could actually land a rover on in the near future isn’t a planet, but a gigantic circular fart cloud is???
Why is your definition of 'planet' based on landing a vehicle? Should comet 67p be classified as a planet because the Philae lander touched down on it? Strange criteria
Bro think he subnautica