What an amazing and educational video. I love my Canadian brethren. You guys are A-1. Thanks for the video from America. You make my life easy, even for a 2wd owner.
Thanks! Knowing I helped a few people made it worth making the video and posting it. I should start making more of these videos. I want to eventually start my own shop and then I can film everything. Currently I fix commercial trucks at a large shop in town.
Awesome, thank you, exactly what I was trying to achieve. If you do get around to doing the swap, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Seams most videos out there don't hit all the points. Allot fo guys stick with the auto ECM, then you don't have to worry about the cruise or sensor but then they always hesitate when trying to make a shift and throw codes etc. In my opinion this is the best way to do it, no codes, no lights etc, and its really not that much work.
Did your ZF6 have the trans cooler lines on it? I am trying to figure out if that was something important or just something they added in the 2003 model. My zf6 has transmission cooler lines coming out by the starter and i just need to know if i can just plug them off or if i need it.
Excellent video man! Thank you. Question on the cruise control. So you merged those two wires into one? And where did you run it into that grey connector?
Just connect a wire to the tan and light blue in the column and run it down to the clutch switch wiring, connect it to the tan and light blue wire on the clutch switch connector, even a skotch lock would work to make this connection.
@@emersontayten awesome. If your swapping the ecm to the manual ecm which id suggest, just follow the wiring like in my video and everything will work.
It just depends on the harness, the harness I got from the wreckers was a 99-01 manual trans and manual t-case harness so it was straight plug and play.
Its the stock shifter from my parts truck. I didnt cut it down, I just pealed off the old knob, turned the end of the drifter down a bit on the lathe and I put on a custom knob hand made from rose wood with a Krona in the top. I like it waaaaay more then stock.
@@mikewrenchin1735 It looks much shorter. I am getting ready to do the swap on my 99. I love my 97 ZF5 but i have drove a number of trucks with the ZF6 and really hate the shifter. It's to long. Makes the shift pattern to wide and when in reverse I hit my hand on the knob trying to back a trailer up. The ZF5 shifter is much shorter and plan to use one from a ZF5.
I just found this info out, and maybe this is why I have no check engine after my swap without the second ect sensor. The 2000 model year never came with a second Engine Coolant Temperature sensor, regardless of whether or not it was fitted with a manual or automatic transmission. The additional ECT sensor was not introduced until 2001, coinciding with the horsepower rating bump to 275 HP that was exclusive to the manual transmission trucks
What ecm are you running? It's hard to find much, if any info on it. I know that all the manual trucks I've pulled parts from had the coolant temp sensor. I also know that the apx1 pcms I've used want to see the coolant temp signal or they will not work properly.
I never found the 2nd coolant temp sensor on my 99 donor truck. I found one at the base of the hpop but it was the black. I'm about to start my swap now
I did this swap on my truck and never did the coolant sensor thing as I couldn't find good info. However I don't have a check engine light, and it does run great, but I'm getting 10mpg with a truck camper and dirtbike on the front. Is it possible I don't need to do the coolant sensor? I've driven 10k miles no issue, but my gas mileage is poor id say, but not horrible?
I have never scanned the truck since, and my check engine light is on before I start the truck, but not on running as it should be. Should I still do it?
@@tylerregen I would definitely have the truck scanned. You will get horrible milage and poor performance with code p0118 active. I dont know why the CEL wouldn't be illuminated if p0118 is active but i know that different PCM codes act differently too. What PCM are you running currently? If your still running the auto ECM I would swap it for a manual one and if you have a manual PCM and code p0118 is active then ad the ECT sensor.
Curious if you've accomplished your zf6 swap on an excursion.. it's been an idea of mine since I first learned what an excursion was as a young boy, and then heartbroken to find out they didn't come with a manual transmission.. I will do it one day, as soon as I can find a clean excursion that isn't $20k
You wouldn't happen to still have that 2002 manual pcm would you? I'm getting ready to do the swap on my 03 and the only thing I'm missing to do it is the pcm
No, sorry, I've already sold it. You're the 3rd or 4th person already to ask me that. I guess that's a sought-after part. Scour any wreckers near you, I found my apx-1 at a local wrecking yard for 200 bucks canadian.
You can have the pcm reflashed yes, there's some companies in the US that you can send your pcm too to have them reflash it to a manual PCM. I just did some searching around at local wreckers and found a L99-01 ecm for 200 bucks. Was the easiest solution for me. You'll just have to make sure to flash your auto ecm back to stock with your tuner before you pull it so that you can use your tuner on your new ecm. If its a chip you'll just have to reflash the chip for the new ecm code.
hey mike! do you still have the 2002 7.3L manual ecm? id like to purchase if you still do! could you reply with a way to reach you? thanks in the middle of this swap on my 02 f350!
I do actually yea. Sorry about the late reply, I dont check my youtube notifications too often. Find me on Facebook, Michael Burgin. Profile picture is me with my two dogs.
I was at the time driving my ranger so I took my time, 2 or 3 weeks in total working on weekends but if I really put my foot into it I'd say I could probably hammer the job out in 2 or 3 days.
Well, it really depends if you buy a kit, bits and pieces or a whole parts truck. I bought a whole running parts truck for 3200 and sold the motor for 950 and the auto transmission for 950. No subtracting any of the other parts I sold off the parts truck the Trans and everything cost me roughly 1300. A full kit on marketplace seams to go for around 1500 in my parts. Other then that all you need is the clutch and the oils and shop supplies. As for the clutch my truck makes a decent bit of power so I went with a ceramic puck clutch off of rock auto for just under 400 I believe, with the resurfacing the flywheel and rear main and oils I'd say it was an additional 600 or 700. If you wanted too though of corse you could spend a couple grand on a southbend clutch but to me that is foolish.
Defenitely yes, but you would have to pull it apart and put in the input shaft that has the right spline count for the zf6, you would also have to ad the manual reverse switch pigtail to the auto trans harness. If your manual parts truck had the electric shift t-case (not sure if that was an option) then it would be straight bolt on.
@@mikewrenchin1735 another question, would it be possible to put a zf5 s47 in a super duty? They seem to be a more direct swap from and auto. Output shafts are the same spline count and no oil cooler to deal with on the zf5. Also zf5s seem to be alot cheaper in my area.
@@calebmoudy4211 yes it can be done, I thought about it myself. I've never done it myself but apefently its a fairly straight forward swap though I dont know if the shifter hole will line up in the superduty hump. Apparently the only thing that's tricky with putting a zf5 into a superduty is that you have to use the master and reservoir from the superduty and the slave from the Obs and they aren't really designed to be easily dis/re-assembled and bled. The zf6 trans cooler was a peice of cake to hook up, and it gives you the opportunity to put an inline filter in.
@@mikewrenchin1735 for the hydraulic clutch I was thinking of using a slave and master from gas Superduty that came with a zf5. I believe 99-03 you could still get zf5 in a gas truck.
@@calebmoudy4211 interesting. Ive never heard of it done this way, but makes sense too me. I won't if the gasser zf5 use the same style slave and clutch fork as an obs 7.3 zf6 transmission. 🤔
Yea the 4r100s are good compared to like say a 47re in a dodge, but still it is really hard to get a transmission that still relies on hydraulics for 1 2 and 3 to work well with any kind of power or big load. If you were to try and go to an Allison you'd be dealing with tons of wiring, aftermarket trans controllers, tuning etc. Go to a manual and you don't have to deal with any of that crap. I know a guy that put 800k km on his 02 zf-6 7.3 with the factory engine, trans, t-case, diffs, everything. Something I would really love to do at some point is 10 speed Eaton swap a pickup, maybe a compound turbo cummins. Next project on the line though is a turbo diesel boat, so maybe after that.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 With my video I'm sure you could manage lol. Honestly you'd likely be best off looking on facebook groups like this one i moderate. facebook.com/groups/1555885377832402/ Find someone private that has the skill set to do it for cash and you will save big bucks. I know if someone brings me a 7.3 to manual swap here in BC Canada I'll jump on it just for the fun of doing it!
Hey, sorry Enjie. I don't check my UA-cam notifications all too often. Find me on Facebook. My name is Michael Burgin. My profile picture is me with my two dogs.
I would love to start my own business. I started out straight out of high school wrenching on farms and stuff just by word of mouth. Now I'm at a commercial truck shop to get a red seal ticket. Sometimes it feels like I've been wrenching longer then I've been alive lol. I want to move away from swapping rusty parts on semis and go back to doing cool weird stuff, make it less like a day job and more like a hobby again.
What an amazing and educational video. I love my Canadian brethren. You guys are A-1. Thanks for the video from America. You make my life easy, even for a 2wd owner.
Incredibly well spoken, informative, and concise. Great video!
Most informed video I’ve seen yet I’m in the process of swapping mine and couldn’t figure out why it wouldn’t start and this showed me why
Thanks! Knowing I helped a few people made it worth making the video and posting it. I should start making more of these videos. I want to eventually start my own shop and then I can film everything. Currently I fix commercial trucks at a large shop in town.
You did one hell of a job
Sweet truck. I d love to do this swap to mine
That seems like a step by step video lol. Don’t sell yourself short my guy
Excellent Mechanic.
Thank you so much for making this video! God bless!
Fantastic man been considering doing this to my L99 7.3 Lariat. Thanks for all the info. It’s hard to find all this in one place
Awesome, thank you, exactly what I was trying to achieve. If you do get around to doing the swap, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Seams most videos out there don't hit all the points. Allot fo guys stick with the auto ECM, then you don't have to worry about the cruise or sensor but then they always hesitate when trying to make a shift and throw codes etc. In my opinion this is the best way to do it, no codes, no lights etc, and its really not that much work.
Awesome awesome video dude! Thanks a bunch
Nice
On that gray box what wire did you run the wire to for the over drive switch
Excellent video. Very informative. How long, from start to finish, did it take to do this swap? Thanks in advance..
Looking to do this on my 99 v10
Did your ZF6 have the trans cooler lines on it? I am trying to figure out if that was something important or just something they added in the 2003 model. My zf6 has transmission cooler lines coming out by the starter and i just need to know if i can just plug them off or if i need it.
So the 99 manual trans ecu will not work in a 2002 automatic truck
Dude you have to be from canada...lol you and i talk the same
Excellent video man! Thank you.
Question on the cruise control. So you merged those two wires into one? And where did you run it into that grey connector?
Just connect a wire to the tan and light blue in the column and run it down to the clutch switch wiring, connect it to the tan and light blue wire on the clutch switch connector, even a skotch lock would work to make this connection.
@@mikewrenchin1735 Sweet. Thanks for the reply man! Did the swap this weekend. Waiting for the rain to stop so I can finish the wiring.
@@emersontayten awesome. If your swapping the ecm to the manual ecm which id suggest, just follow the wiring like in my video and everything will work.
@@mikewrenchin1735 Everything is groovy. Flashed pmc will be back tomorrow and I'll take her for a test ride. Thanks for all your help mang!
Driving baby. No more weak automatic crap. I much prefer an automatic in a truck, but 4 built trannies in 3 years is ridiculous. Thanks again man!
I see you went from electronic 4wd to manual on the floor. Did you have to do anything different with the wiring for that?
It just depends on the harness, the harness I got from the wreckers was a 99-01 manual trans and manual t-case harness so it was straight plug and play.
Did you use a ZF5 shifter or did you cut the 6 down? I like that but it's definitely a shorter shifter than all the ZF6 shifters I've seen.
Its the stock shifter from my parts truck. I didnt cut it down, I just pealed off the old knob, turned the end of the drifter down a bit on the lathe and I put on a custom knob hand made from rose wood with a Krona in the top. I like it waaaaay more then stock.
@@mikewrenchin1735 It looks much shorter. I am getting ready to do the swap on my 99. I love my 97 ZF5 but i have drove a number of trucks with the ZF6 and really hate the shifter. It's to long. Makes the shift pattern to wide and when in reverse I hit my hand on the knob trying to back a trailer up. The ZF5 shifter is much shorter and plan to use one from a ZF5.
Fair enough. It would be easy enough to cut it down or make a custom shifter anyways.
Awesome job man!
Would it be the same with the wiring if I’m doing the swap in a 2003 f250 5.4 2v motor?
Also if I do the swap are the transmission cooler lines the same in the 4r100 and zf6 or did you have to modify them?
Thqnks
I'm not sure on that one but I feal like it would be a very similar process.
Great video!!!!!
I just found this info out, and maybe this is why I have no check engine after my swap without the second ect sensor.
The 2000 model year never came with a second Engine Coolant Temperature sensor, regardless of whether or not it was fitted with a manual or automatic transmission.
The additional ECT sensor was not introduced until 2001, coinciding with the horsepower rating bump to 275 HP that was exclusive to the manual transmission trucks
What ecm are you running? It's hard to find much, if any info on it. I know that all the manual trucks I've pulled parts from had the coolant temp sensor. I also know that the apx1 pcms I've used want to see the coolant temp signal or they will not work properly.
I never found the 2nd coolant temp sensor on my 99 donor truck. I found one at the base of the hpop but it was the black. I'm about to start my swap now
I did this swap on my truck and never did the coolant sensor thing as I couldn't find good info. However I don't have a check engine light, and it does run great, but I'm getting 10mpg with a truck camper and dirtbike on the front. Is it possible I don't need to do the coolant sensor? I've driven 10k miles no issue, but my gas mileage is poor id say, but not horrible?
I have never scanned the truck since, and my check engine light is on before I start the truck, but not on running as it should be. Should I still do it?
@@tylerregen I would definitely have the truck scanned. You will get horrible milage and poor performance with code p0118 active. I dont know why the CEL wouldn't be illuminated if p0118 is active but i know that different PCM codes act differently too. What PCM are you running currently? If your still running the auto ECM I would swap it for a manual one and if you have a manual PCM and code p0118 is active then ad the ECT sensor.
Would this swap be the same for a excursion ? Your videos are very educational
Thanks. Yes it should be the exact same if it's a 99-01, slight variances if it's an 02-03.
Curious if you've accomplished your zf6 swap on an excursion.. it's been an idea of mine since I first learned what an excursion was as a young boy, and then heartbroken to find out they didn't come with a manual transmission.. I will do it one day, as soon as I can find a clean excursion that isn't $20k
You wouldn't happen to still have that 2002 manual pcm would you? I'm getting ready to do the swap on my 03 and the only thing I'm missing to do it is the pcm
No, sorry, I've already sold it. You're the 3rd or 4th person already to ask me that. I guess that's a sought-after part. Scour any wreckers near you, I found my apx-1 at a local wrecking yard for 200 bucks canadian.
Trying to figure out the Computer on mine is swapping it necessary? Or could you have it reflashed I have a tuner in it that’s about all
You can have the pcm reflashed yes, there's some companies in the US that you can send your pcm too to have them reflash it to a manual PCM. I just did some searching around at local wreckers and found a L99-01 ecm for 200 bucks. Was the easiest solution for me. You'll just have to make sure to flash your auto ecm back to stock with your tuner before you pull it so that you can use your tuner on your new ecm. If its a chip you'll just have to reflash the chip for the new ecm code.
hey mike! do you still have the 2002 7.3L manual ecm? id like to purchase if you still do! could you reply with a way to reach you? thanks in the middle of this swap on my 02 f350!
I do actually yea. Sorry about the late reply, I dont check my youtube notifications too often. Find me on Facebook, Michael Burgin. Profile picture is me with my two dogs.
How long did this swap take you from start to back on the road?
I was at the time driving my ranger so I took my time, 2 or 3 weeks in total working on weekends but if I really put my foot into it I'd say I could probably hammer the job out in 2 or 3 days.
We're u floating gears there ❓️❓️😲😲
Could give a rough estimate of how much it costs for this project?
Well, it really depends if you buy a kit, bits and pieces or a whole parts truck. I bought a whole running parts truck for 3200 and sold the motor for 950 and the auto transmission for 950. No subtracting any of the other parts I sold off the parts truck the Trans and everything cost me roughly 1300. A full kit on marketplace seams to go for around 1500 in my parts. Other then that all you need is the clutch and the oils and shop supplies. As for the clutch my truck makes a decent bit of power so I went with a ceramic puck clutch off of rock auto for just under 400 I believe, with the resurfacing the flywheel and rear main and oils I'd say it was an additional 600 or 700. If you wanted too though of corse you could spend a couple grand on a southbend clutch but to me that is foolish.
Could you use the electric transfer case from the auto?
Defenitely yes, but you would have to pull it apart and put in the input shaft that has the right spline count for the zf6, you would also have to ad the manual reverse switch pigtail to the auto trans harness. If your manual parts truck had the electric shift t-case (not sure if that was an option) then it would be straight bolt on.
@@mikewrenchin1735 another question, would it be possible to put a zf5 s47 in a super duty? They seem to be a more direct swap from and auto. Output shafts are the same spline count and no oil cooler to deal with on the zf5. Also zf5s seem to be alot cheaper in my area.
@@calebmoudy4211 yes it can be done, I thought about it myself. I've never done it myself but apefently its a fairly straight forward swap though I dont know if the shifter hole will line up in the superduty hump. Apparently the only thing that's tricky with putting a zf5 into a superduty is that you have to use the master and reservoir from the superduty and the slave from the Obs and they aren't really designed to be easily dis/re-assembled and bled. The zf6 trans cooler was a peice of cake to hook up, and it gives you the opportunity to put an inline filter in.
@@mikewrenchin1735 for the hydraulic clutch I was thinking of using a slave and master from gas Superduty that came with a zf5. I believe 99-03 you could still get zf5 in a gas truck.
@@calebmoudy4211 interesting. Ive never heard of it done this way, but makes sense too me. I won't if the gasser zf5 use the same style slave and clutch fork as an obs 7.3 zf6 transmission. 🤔
want to do this to my '02. on my 2nd 4R100 and they are crap. I would like a 6 speed Allison, but shops want 20k US...
Yea the 4r100s are good compared to like say a 47re in a dodge, but still it is really hard to get a transmission that still relies on hydraulics for 1 2 and 3 to work well with any kind of power or big load. If you were to try and go to an Allison you'd be dealing with tons of wiring, aftermarket trans controllers, tuning etc. Go to a manual and you don't have to deal with any of that crap. I know a guy that put 800k km on his 02 zf-6 7.3 with the factory engine, trans, t-case, diffs, everything. Something I would really love to do at some point is 10 speed Eaton swap a pickup, maybe a compound turbo cummins. Next project on the line though is a turbo diesel boat, so maybe after that.
@@mikewrenchin1735 I would love to. I can't find anyone in the Denver area that will do the conversion for me, and I'm too dumb to do it myself.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 With my video I'm sure you could manage lol. Honestly you'd likely be best off looking on facebook groups like this one i moderate. facebook.com/groups/1555885377832402/
Find someone private that has the skill set to do it for cash and you will save big bucks. I know if someone brings me a 7.3 to manual swap here in BC Canada I'll jump on it just for the fun of doing it!
You wouldn’t still have that 02 zf6 pcm that you would want to get rid of do you
I do actually. Want to buy it off of me?
What would be the safest way to give you my info for contacting
I would like to talk about the computer you have but idk how to get with you to do it
Hey, sorry Enjie. I don't check my UA-cam notifications all too often. Find me on Facebook. My name is Michael Burgin. My profile picture is me with my two dogs.
Hi Mike how can we contact you.. do you have an patreon or email address? Thanks 👍
you could make a booming side business out of doing this...
I would love to start my own business. I started out straight out of high school wrenching on farms and stuff just by word of mouth. Now I'm at a commercial truck shop to get a red seal ticket. Sometimes it feels like I've been wrenching longer then I've been alive lol. I want to move away from swapping rusty parts on semis and go back to doing cool weird stuff, make it less like a day job and more like a hobby again.