True.... but not just now...or 10 months ago when this posted. They've ALWAYS been a light in a dark place. Whatever your light or dark place is, play Architects and you'll be better 🤘👍
I think Architects is the most relevant metal band of the past decade. No contest. They bring their own vibe, sound and message without sounding tired. Something very hard to do in a world of endless sound.
So glad to hear them talk about their creative process like this. I really appreciate how stripped back the new album is while still maintaining that Architects unique sound and heaviness. Always ALWAYS wanted more of Sam's clean vocals and so grateful that he's chosen to employ it a whole lot more again.
❤ This is another record that will only get better with age. Holy Hell was a pinnacle of heavy and emotional for us and this album is a great step forward from that. Congrats guys.
Part 1 Do You Dream of Armageddon 1:37 Black Lungs🫁🫁10:36 Giving Blood 🩸 18:18 Discourse is Dead 💀 24:50 Dead Butterflies 🦋🦋🦋33:05 An Ordinary Extinction 45:22 Impermanence 54:15
You make discourse alive! Im a right leaning conservative from a post communist country and I've loved your band since Daybreaker. I'm always open to views from the other side and you changed so many of my views. I acknowledge that there are troubles in the world and that we should act. It's not a "right wing thing" to ignore what your planet is saying that' just stupid.
This is such a good interview and such a great insight into the background to the Album. Loved the album anyway but understand it so much better listening to this.
Holy shit. Dan says they planned on doing a DOUBLE RECORD ? Not only that, but they had other finished songs too !!! Could we ever end up seeing the release of some of those completed songs that didn't make the cut ?
@@VNKNOWN_TX I definitely wouldn't say "almost every band." I've only seen a handful of deluxe (re)issues in the last few years. They were super popular around 2014-2016 though, especially from Rise Records
@@keitso882 48:30 watch for a little bit beyond. He's talking about An Ordinary Extinction and how it's very different and how they experimented, then explains there's more things they experimented with and finished that hasn't been released/didn't make it on the record.
@@stephen303 There are a good amount of bands or at least from my point of view that have been releasing deluxe albums or b side eps. Theres no way they went in, spent the money on these songs to not have to released at some point.
50:34 I feel like I’m one of the few who feels like this but this section was easily my favourite moment on the album. There’s something so beautiful and also haunting about that contrast between the dark riff and the angelic vocals. Absolutely incredible
These two videos just made me appreciate the songs even more because now you understand all the different elements that went into making the song and knowing the backstories behind them makes them even more enjoyable to listen to.
Although I wasn't a fan of this album or even Holy Hell, I'm really happy for them and how excited that they are for this new direction. Congratulations to you, Architects!
This is (at least to me) the definition of a true fan. Supporting a band, regardless of the musical direction, instead of hating them for doing stuff they wanna play. Refreshing to see comments like this now and then.
You guys deserve this recognition! Please stay creative, deep in meaning and at least somewhat heavy and technical in some tracks for us. Overall I'm really grateful for what you do for the metalcore and rock scene! 🤘🏻
God, when I thought that I could listen to this all day, it just ended... I am big fan of the process from behind the "stage". makes you learn more of the work that its done, and makes you appreciate it more
That was absolutely fascinating. As an ardent fan of the band, I love this kind of well in depth style of questioning where we get far deeper into all sorts of meanings behind themes, songs, ideas and really get the the epicentre of the album. I've loved Architects ever since I first saw them support Bring Me at The Astoria all those years ago in what might have been 2006? This is without a doubt their most fearless release to date and one that will prove to be a game changer the world over. Congratulations guys.
I'm glad they explain this album the way they do. Its easy for use to take this kind of music for granted, movies and the like has us so spoiled, myself in included, I hardly realized they used orchestra. I hear it now for what it is. Thanks Architects.
I'm a conservative and you guys will always be my favorite band. I respect your opinions. Your music is amazing. I don't think there's a reason to try and force anyone to change their mind about anything so long as we can communicate and like you're bravely expressing, having healthy discourse and sharing ideas together. I applaud that you are willing to call your own ideological party about wanting to interact and communicate more with your counterparts. I'm not british but we are experiencing a lot of that same partisan divide here. I appreciate how honest your take is on this and I hope your own ideological party won't chastise you for wanting to open a communication channel with your ideological counterparts like it tends to happen.
@@_notofthisearth oh I'd even say MOST of the metal audience is conservative. I feel like that's mostly due to the fact that metal is a pretty "old" genre of music. The thing about most of the newer metal bands is, they themselves often sit right at this weird spot, where older people still like their music but younger people do so, too and thus their audience is kinda split politically. I remember avenged sevefold putting out a statement in support of BLM and the audience went wild because of that. That's where a lot of the "new age" metal bands like architects, BMTH, etc. sit. There's a reason the meme about the 40/50 year old white guy asking for metallica at the super bowl half time show exists. Still I'd like to know, how do people who hold conservative beliefs listen to songs like black lungs or discourse is dead? I mean how do you listen to songs with a political message you fundamentally disagree with?
@@skyzgone2953 I guess you could take your own meaning out of it, e.g someone “Right socially” but not necessarily “Right economically” could take it as the cry against being silenced? Whatever works for people I guess Plus probably most “Right wing” people don’t think climate change is a hoax or whatever
Wanna say, I feel absolutely everything said about Discourse is dead. It goes to show how on edge Dan was even talking about the lyrics, cause of how some people may react to even the thought of talking to someone civilly who they disagree with. If Daryl Davis as an African American can get over 200 kkk to leave the Klan and racism through peaceful and civil conversation, we can hands down have a civil conversation with someone with different views and values. It's a privilege to even exist in a country where we can have civil conversations with people who you disagree with. The fact people (Mainly my fellow leftist) piss away that opportunity is a big reason why society is sooo volatile now.
I gotta admit i didnt like the tone downshift. But the album grows more into my all time favorite with every listening. It almost reminds me of A Perfect Circles Eat the Elephant. Odd at first then evolves into perfect.
@@bunggbungg7787 agreed which is kind of refreshing in the world of digital releases it feels like whole album listening is a dying thing. And it hurts alot of bands.
@@Excellerator420 it’s so sad knowing that a good majority of the songs on any given album won’t receive the proper attention they deserve, especially given the rise in streaming, as you said. I’ve always listened to albums all the way through, and 90% of the time my favorite tracks are not the pre-release singles. An album is a complete work of art and the order of the track list is deliberately picked for a reason, and therefore I think the best way to fully experience a song is in the context of the entire album.
Is it only me that’s a little bit irked that Dan basically solely refers to the processes as his work/in the first person whereas the others tend to talk of it as a collective? I get he’s maybe been front and centre for many aspects of this album - from lyric writing to the production process - but you know... it felt in parts like a solo artist talking about their process while the backing band sits and waits.
Very rarely are songs made collectively as a group. There are usually only 1-2 song writers in a band. Sometimes the bands don’t even write their own music.
@@jackthefall6160 that only happens in rap and pop music, when it comes to metal or rock. The people in the band write all the songs. And Dan didn’t write it all, I’m sure he had a lot to do with a lot of it. But he didn’t write the guitar parts, or bass parts, and probably didn’t write all the vocal lines. I know Josh wrote a pretty good amount of the guitars. Only time they don’t write their own music, is when they do a cover of another band.
It's funny how Josh thinks the song Impermanence is one of the only songs that he couldn't stylistically "peg" in with another bands sound...but honestly, for me, it's one of the only songs on this record that I COULD place it sounding like someone else lol For me, Norma Jean could've written this song and could put it on one of their albums and it could've gone either way, lol. The phrasing, the vocal delivery, guitar, the subtle technique cues in the drums, the whole package really. I'm not saying this as a slight, of course, (the almighty) Norma Jean is an incredible band and has been a favourite of mine for ages, quite literally. Just wanted to draw the comparison :)
If the boys in architects were casted in a Robin Hood movie Sam - Robin Hood Josh - gallows man Dan - sheriff of Nottingham Ali- Robin Hood’s buddy/helper Adam - little John
All people have different tastes, if you do not like this, just do not listen to it, the good or the bad, the beautiful or the ugly depends on the individual perception, you may believe that you are beautiful, but in reality you may seem to others ugly, that's how it is. Goodbye to some old fans, and welcome to the millions of new fans around the world 🔥
Honestly, I don't think they were ready for this album. If Tom was alive then things would be different but Dan needed to stick with what they know and get the ground back under them first. Holy Hell was a very good album. But following Lost Together and All Our Gods it failed to deliver... FTTWTE fails in places even Here and Now was successful at... But we're just digestive tracks. What do we know...
The previous 3 albums are my favourite pieces of music of all time, but the new album really bores me :'(. They deserve every bit of succes thats coming their way, but this album wasnt it for me.
That's fine. Tbh what I actually loved about this album is that it felt like a breath of fresh air, some songs I didn't like at first but definitely grew on me the more times I listened to them.
I love Architects but aside from a few songs, I'm not a fan of the new album. If this is a sound they're keeping, I wish them luck moving forward and they still have my respect but I shall be moving onto someone else.
The album is OK at best. Whenever a heavy band bring synth and pop into it, it always feels like they've taken the easy route. Thats what this album feels like, the easy route.
I strongly disagree because they even said they could've easily just pumped out another Holy Hell, but instead they decided to experiment. This is them expanding their horizons and I as a person can appreciate the art they created.
@@MrStricken007 I mean they aren't gonna say "yeah this was an easy album to make" They've gotta sell it! But thats the beauty of it all, some people will love this album, some gonna hate it.
@@hangmencrowley I disagree as well, but I like that you stated some will love/some will hate it. I've been with them since Hollow Crown and really enjoyed this record. It's a breath of fresh air. I mainly play metal guitar and it's gets old writing the same style of riffs. They're great sounding riffs, but it just gets old from a creative standpoint.
@@hangmencrowley Definitely fair. They do incredible work and I just personally am obsessed with them as a band. Especially with the personal connection we have with them because they lost Tom on this journey so their music is definitely not the same as before without him.
I mean, the reasons are obvious. People grow up and realise poppy music sells better. I agree its a shame, as I love that heavy metalcore feel as well. We'll find another band to take that space though!
@@hangmencrowley It definitely isn’t Pop. Impermanence, discourse and extinction are quite heavy. They’ve explored their sound more, which after so many albums, is so needed. Not everything needs to be screaming and breaking down. While She Sleeps are banging out heavy tunes right now.
Yes but I feel somewhat let down by his panicked stepping around the question, the people who hold these dangerous beliefs on both sides aren’t afraid of offending you Dan, don’t be afraid of telling them they’re wrong.
Architects - In Conversation At Abbey Road, Part 2:
ua-cam.com/video/aNVWfMpSa1Q/v-deo.html
you guys have been a light in a dark place lately. thank you.
Couldn't agree more!
This right here 📈📈🙌
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I agree, hope your doing well.
True.... but not just now...or 10 months ago when this posted. They've ALWAYS been a light in a dark place. Whatever your light or dark place is, play Architects and you'll be better 🤘👍
I think Architects is the most relevant metal band of the past decade. No contest. They bring their own vibe, sound and message without sounding tired. Something very hard to do in a world of endless sound.
Meshuggah as well.
So glad to hear them talk about their creative process like this. I really appreciate how stripped back the new album is while still maintaining that Architects unique sound and heaviness. Always ALWAYS wanted more of Sam's clean vocals and so grateful that he's chosen to employ it a whole lot more again.
❤ This is another record that will only get better with age. Holy Hell was a pinnacle of heavy and emotional for us and this album is a great step forward from that. Congrats guys.
I completely agree with everything Ali has to say
Discourse is Dead is literally the best song in the album. I can't have enough of it.
Part 1
Do You Dream of Armageddon 1:37
Black Lungs🫁🫁10:36
Giving Blood 🩸 18:18
Discourse is Dead 💀 24:50
Dead Butterflies 🦋🦋🦋33:05
An Ordinary Extinction 45:22
Impermanence 54:15
This album is a masterpiece
Hello there
This was SO good. Heartfelt and insightful. Looking forward to the next. And who doesn't love this album??
So right
I love Ali's energy here.
Dumping your boyfriend because he's not Ali
12:05
*Dan offers Ali the mic*
_Ali says fuck no_
Haha, that's really funny :D
I bloody loved the inclusion of electronic sounds.
The addition we didn't know we needed but now can't live without
I love this band more than I could describe.
You make discourse alive! Im a right leaning conservative from a post communist country and I've loved your band since Daybreaker. I'm always open to views from the other side and you changed so many of my views. I acknowledge that there are troubles in the world and that we should act. It's not a "right wing thing" to ignore what your planet is saying that' just stupid.
This is such a good interview and such a great insight into the background to the Album. Loved the album anyway but understand it so much better listening to this.
Holy shit. Dan says they planned on doing a DOUBLE RECORD ? Not only that, but they had other finished songs too !!! Could we ever end up seeing the release of some of those completed songs that didn't make the cut ?
Of course we will lol almost every band now keeps extra tracks for a Deluxe Edition release after the first initial sales die down.
@@VNKNOWN_TX I definitely wouldn't say "almost every band." I've only seen a handful of deluxe (re)issues in the last few years. They were super popular around 2014-2016 though, especially from Rise Records
At what time Dan says that please?
@@keitso882 48:30 watch for a little bit beyond. He's talking about An Ordinary Extinction and how it's very different and how they experimented, then explains there's more things they experimented with and finished that hasn't been released/didn't make it on the record.
@@stephen303 There are a good amount of bands or at least from my point of view that have been releasing deluxe albums or b side eps. Theres no way they went in, spent the money on these songs to not have to released at some point.
50:34 I feel like I’m one of the few who feels like this but this section was easily my favourite moment on the album. There’s something so beautiful and also haunting about that contrast between the dark riff and the angelic vocals. Absolutely incredible
I feel exactly the same! I'm glad other people (including Sam) acknowledge this. :D
These two videos just made me appreciate the songs even more because now you understand all the different elements that went into making the song and knowing the backstories behind them makes them even more enjoyable to listen to.
Although I wasn't a fan of this album or even Holy Hell, I'm really happy for them and how excited that they are for this new direction. Congratulations to you, Architects!
Good example of congratulating instead of hating 👍
I think you’re the first person I’ve seen that doesn’t like Holy hell, cool tho, thanks for not hating on them man, cheers.
@@alonehades100 I could never hate them or any other band for making music that I don’t like.
The old stuff will always be there for me 🤘🏽🤘🏽
This is (at least to me) the definition of a true fan. Supporting a band, regardless of the musical direction, instead of hating them for doing stuff they wanna play. Refreshing to see comments like this now and then.
You guys deserve this recognition! Please stay creative, deep in meaning and at least somewhat heavy and technical in some tracks for us. Overall I'm really grateful for what you do for the metalcore and rock scene! 🤘🏻
God, when I thought that I could listen to this all day, it just ended...
I am big fan of the process from behind the "stage". makes you learn more of the work that its done, and makes you appreciate it more
This is awesome!! Can't wait for Part 2! 🖤🖤🖤
Very genuine and love all the details you are sharing with us
That was absolutely fascinating. As an ardent fan of the band, I love this kind of well in depth style of questioning where we get far deeper into all sorts of meanings behind themes, songs, ideas and really get the the epicentre of the album. I've loved Architects ever since I first saw them support Bring Me at The Astoria all those years ago in what might have been 2006? This is without a doubt their most fearless release to date and one that will prove to be a game changer the world over. Congratulations guys.
Fantastic, looking forward to part 2!
I'm glad they explain this album the way they do. Its easy for use to take this kind of music for granted, movies and the like has us so spoiled, myself in included, I hardly realized they used orchestra. I hear it now for what it is. Thanks Architects.
Architects is the structure of Metalcore
Loving this and fuxking love the new album in Its entirety from first listen!!
I'm a conservative and you guys will always be my favorite band. I respect your opinions. Your music is amazing. I don't think there's a reason to try and force anyone to change their mind about anything so long as we can communicate and like you're bravely expressing, having healthy discourse and sharing ideas together. I applaud that you are willing to call your own ideological party about wanting to interact and communicate more with your counterparts. I'm not british but we are experiencing a lot of that same partisan divide here. I appreciate how honest your take is on this and I hope your own ideological party won't chastise you for wanting to open a communication channel with your ideological counterparts like it tends to happen.
Me too man, they probably have more conservative fans than they think!
@@pavelcerny5536 there are TONS of Conservatives in metal. Personally know several BIG bands with Conservatives/Libertarians in them.
@@_notofthisearth oh I'd even say MOST of the metal audience is conservative. I feel like that's mostly due to the fact that metal is a pretty "old" genre of music. The thing about most of the newer metal bands is, they themselves often sit right at this weird spot, where older people still like their music but younger people do so, too and thus their audience is kinda split politically.
I remember avenged sevefold putting out a statement in support of BLM and the audience went wild because of that. That's where a lot of the "new age" metal bands like architects, BMTH, etc. sit. There's a reason the meme about the 40/50 year old white guy asking for metallica at the super bowl half time show exists.
Still I'd like to know, how do people who hold conservative beliefs listen to songs like black lungs or discourse is dead? I mean how do you listen to songs with a political message you fundamentally disagree with?
@@skyzgone2953 I guess you could take your own meaning out of it, e.g someone “Right socially” but not necessarily “Right economically” could take it as the cry against being silenced? Whatever works for people I guess
Plus probably most “Right wing” people don’t think climate change is a hoax or whatever
@@corvodraken3049 you're probably correct yah
It's gonna be EPIC (thank you architects to spread your music to the world)
Discourse is Dead
Dead Butterflies
Dying is Absolutely Safe is AWESOME!
this was such a wonderful session, can’t wait for part 2
So much respect for your creativity Architects ♥
This album is awesome got my copy a few days ago been nailing it. Thank you guys 5 stars
Amazing album💓 1000%👍👍👍 Love this band🔥
SUPER EPIC, I'M REALLY EXCITED :D
/I loved the album, I can't stop listening it! I love ARCHITECTS so much
Love what Dan said about Discourse Is Dead, so true and well put. needs to change or at least be recognised.
I've always hated the thing with diehard fans of bands where if anythings different it's instant outrage the old music is still there
Loving the new album! No blegh's, but ya know...😍
ARCHITECTS ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THIS ALBUM, ARE #1, END.
Обожаю парней и их творчество❤️
I love this band so god damn much!!
Such good people 🖤 its a joy to hear them talk
The way I drink on every word said about the creative process... thank you for this and a brilliant album
Baby girl im ready to cry!
nicest guys, love the record.
I'm so excited
Reminder set
Holy Hell!!!
Siuuuuu lo espero con ansias
X2 bro 🔥
Estara esto en españok subtitulado?
An Ordinary Extinction could be my favourite song of all time... Well... Very close joint first with Royal Beggars...
New song? OMFG I CAN BARELY CATCH UP TO THE RECENT ONES!
It’s a track by track. No new songs
What is this, somekinda documentary, whatever its gonna be, it will be awesome
I always love and appreciate behind the scenes type videos that discuss and explain the songwriting process
Wanna say, I feel absolutely everything said about Discourse is dead. It goes to show how on edge Dan was even talking about the lyrics, cause of how some people may react to even the thought of talking to someone civilly who they disagree with. If Daryl Davis as an African American can get over 200 kkk to leave the Klan and racism through peaceful and civil conversation, we can hands down have a civil conversation with someone with different views and values. It's a privilege to even exist in a country where we can have civil conversations with people who you disagree with. The fact people (Mainly my fellow leftist) piss away that opportunity is a big reason why society is sooo volatile now.
Well said man, agree 100%
Ali made some great points in this 🤩🙌🙏👏
Thank you 🖤🖤🖤
I gotta admit i didnt like the tone downshift. But the album grows more into my all time favorite with every listening. It almost reminds me of A Perfect Circles Eat the Elephant. Odd at first then evolves into perfect.
i found listening to the whole album in order helped that. flows very very well. but some of the songs by themselves can be weird
@@bunggbungg7787 agreed which is kind of refreshing in the world of digital releases it feels like whole album listening is a dying thing. And it hurts alot of bands.
@@Excellerator420 it’s so sad knowing that a good majority of the songs on any given album won’t receive the proper attention they deserve, especially given the rise in streaming, as you said. I’ve always listened to albums all the way through, and 90% of the time my favorite tracks are not the pre-release singles. An album is a complete work of art and the order of the track list is deliberately picked for a reason, and therefore I think the best way to fully experience a song is in the context of the entire album.
@@stephen303 thats the good thing about vinyls being popular in a way. As pretentious as the vinyl crowd can be they are keeping it alive.
@@Excellerator420 analog sounds way better than trash digital bro come on. Haha jk I only own one vinyl.
Reminder set as well
This is gonna be sick
I know.🤔... stay healthy.🤘🏽✨
@@anthonyp3450 lmaoooo
What a banger álbum!
That would have been awesome if they did a double album. I wish they would have went that route
WE WANT THE DOUBLE RECORD
ОЧЕНЬ СИЛЬНО ЖДЕМ ПЕРЕВОД!
I want him to sing at my funeral with flames whilst I'm lowered
I'm geeked 😊
Is it only me that’s a little bit irked that Dan basically solely refers to the processes as his work/in the first person whereas the others tend to talk of it as a collective? I get he’s maybe been front and centre for many aspects of this album - from lyric writing to the production process - but you know... it felt in parts like a solo artist talking about their process while the backing band sits and waits.
Very rarely are songs made collectively as a group. There are usually only 1-2 song writers in a band. Sometimes the bands don’t even write their own music.
I don't think so I think if you make anything that's just how the language goes
@@jackthefall6160 that only happens in rap and pop music, when it comes to metal or rock. The people in the band write all the songs. And Dan didn’t write it all, I’m sure he had a lot to do with a lot of it. But he didn’t write the guitar parts, or bass parts, and probably didn’t write all the vocal lines. I know Josh wrote a pretty good amount of the guitars. Only time they don’t write their own music, is when they do a cover of another band.
@@jackthefall6160 name a rock or metal band that you know of, that doesn’t write their own music.
It's funny how Josh thinks the song Impermanence is one of the only songs that he couldn't stylistically "peg" in with another bands sound...but honestly, for me, it's one of the only songs on this record that I COULD place it sounding like someone else lol For me, Norma Jean could've written this song and could put it on one of their albums and it could've gone either way, lol. The phrasing, the vocal delivery, guitar, the subtle technique cues in the drums, the whole package really. I'm not saying this as a slight, of course, (the almighty) Norma Jean is an incredible band and has been a favourite of mine for ages, quite literally. Just wanted to draw the comparison :)
If the boys in architects were casted in a Robin Hood movie
Sam - Robin Hood
Josh - gallows man
Dan - sheriff of Nottingham
Ali- Robin Hood’s buddy/helper
Adam - little John
Fine lads
You guys are rad. ♡ !!!
I like this 👍🤟👿🤟
All people have different tastes, if you do not like this, just do not listen to it, the good or the bad, the beautiful or the ugly depends on the individual perception, you may believe that you are beautiful, but in reality you may seem to others ugly, that's how it is.
Goodbye to some old fans, and welcome to the millions of new fans around the world 🔥
Se viene
Conversation.😶🤘🏽
ali stole the show
I quite like that jumper Dan's got on. Anyone know what it is?
Haha, I was thinking that! Seems kinda like a crew neck jumper? I think they’re vegan, so maybe filter that into your search?
The break downs on this record.. just shows less is more .. always!
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Is this something we’ll be able to re watch later?
Yes
Yes! This will stay up. Part 2 premiering here: ua-cam.com/video/aNVWfMpSa1Q/v-deo.html
we are waiting for you with a tour of Russia)
Hello there!
Ahh fuck it’s over!
💙💙💙💙💙💙
The whole topic on discourse is dead very much reminded me of the whole Gina Carano thing
If you guys are bummed about the new album then check out Josh’s band Sylosis. Their last album is amazing.
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Honestly, I don't think they were ready for this album. If Tom was alive then things would be different but Dan needed to stick with what they know and get the ground back under them first. Holy Hell was a very good album. But following Lost Together and All Our Gods it failed to deliver... FTTWTE fails in places even Here and Now was successful at... But we're just digestive tracks. What do we know...
The previous 3 albums are my favourite pieces of music of all time, but the new album really bores me :'(. They deserve every bit of succes thats coming their way, but this album wasnt it for me.
That's fine. Tbh what I actually loved about this album is that it felt like a breath of fresh air, some songs I didn't like at first but definitely grew on me the more times I listened to them.
This album is soooooooo dreadfully boring. These songs are so repetitive and just... Bad. I hate this album and that sucks because I love these guys.
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I love Architects but aside from a few songs, I'm not a fan of the new album. If this is a sound they're keeping, I wish them luck moving forward and they still have my respect but I shall be moving onto someone else.
So weird to see them all sit there so peacefully. Especially Tom with a mic in his hand...
Weird joke, dude.
The album is OK at best. Whenever a heavy band bring synth and pop into it, it always feels like they've taken the easy route. Thats what this album feels like, the easy route.
I strongly disagree because they even said they could've easily just pumped out another Holy Hell, but instead they decided to experiment. This is them expanding their horizons and I as a person can appreciate the art they created.
@@MrStricken007 I mean they aren't gonna say "yeah this was an easy album to make" They've gotta sell it! But thats the beauty of it all, some people will love this album, some gonna hate it.
@@hangmencrowley I disagree as well, but I like that you stated some will love/some will hate it. I've been with them since Hollow Crown and really enjoyed this record. It's a breath of fresh air. I mainly play metal guitar and it's gets old writing the same style of riffs. They're great sounding riffs, but it just gets old from a creative standpoint.
Don’t think they care or asked mate
@@hangmencrowley Definitely fair. They do incredible work and I just personally am obsessed with them as a band. Especially with the personal connection we have with them because they lost Tom on this journey so their music is definitely not the same as before without him.
It will be cool if they tell why they stop playing metalcore and start making shitty pop...
I mean, the reasons are obvious. People grow up and realise poppy music sells better. I agree its a shame, as I love that heavy metalcore feel as well. We'll find another band to take that space though!
Stop crying
@@hangmencrowley It definitely isn’t Pop. Impermanence, discourse and extinction are quite heavy.
They’ve explored their sound more, which after so many albums, is so needed. Not everything needs to be screaming and breaking down.
While She Sleeps are banging out heavy tunes right now.
Well there’s your eulogy
Love what Dan said about Discourse Is Dead, so true and well put. needs to change or at least be recognised.
Yes but I feel somewhat let down by his panicked stepping around the question, the people who hold these dangerous beliefs on both sides aren’t afraid of offending you Dan, don’t be afraid of telling them they’re wrong.