Watch this before buying a transit van !
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- My 2005 Ford transit van is going to cost $7700 to fix !!!
Bought a Ford transit 2.4l turbo diesel and was going to turn it into a camper but unfortunately two weeks after building it, it staring going into limp mode. I booked it into my local ford mechanic to find out it needs a injector pump.
Fault codes
Codes P02511
P1211
Off Grid George
There's a yellow plastic tool supplied by ford themselves that is designed to hold the pump sprocket in place and the timing chain in tension whilst changing the pump. Just twist the plastic bung out of the big round hole in the timing cover and pop the tool in. Undo sprocket nut and three torx bolts and your done. No need to replace the timing chain. Proper recon pumps are around £600 UK sterling or chance it with a second hand one for £50. Recon ones self code on first start up but a used one will need recoding on a Bosch kts diagnostic or similar. Maximum three hours work to do including recode. (Obviously longer job if doing chain as well but any more than a days labour and your mechanic should hang their head in shame.) Don't ever assume that dealer mechanics are more capable than others. Same as any trade you could mention, there are always the good and the bad.
Chas Evans well done sir 👍. I got a Ford Mustang with a 4.6 that is over due on spark plugs. I haven’t had the courage to do them but, you know what. After seeing this video and seeing your reaction has made my project easier to to do.
Hj9
injector pump wouldn't cost that amount on the space shuttle, 2010 transit costs about 4 grand for the whole van
@Dust storm C0Ming Spot on
Yep he got bummed. I removed and refit my injection pump and got it reconditioned. Took them a day and cost me just under $1000 New Zealand. Took me 2 hours to remove and an afternoon to refit. Reconditioners had it for a day.
Sorry mate but you got shafted. Aftermarket parts are a fraction of the cost - and who on earth pays the main dealership to repair they're motor🙄
Greg Kuzminski
Even if I bought a reco one mate was going to be $2000 .
The dealership was the cheapest quote as they do them all the time and less hrs = less money.
It's a pretty big job to do . Not an arvo and a few beers job unfortunately haha
THIS!!
Greg Kuzminski If it needs a computer only Ford can supply one!
U did get shafted dude . Reconditioned pump is well cheap fitting is 3 hr job. Main dealers are the most expensive way to get a repair dude I could have got that job done for less than 2k
This!
Who the hells goes to the dealer, even worse on a maybe 15 years old van, lol.
I’m told 95% of fords ever built are still on the road. Apparently the other 5% made it home.
That was funny, and unfortunately may be true.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gold mate!
Lol
not the mustang tho
Basic e bay search, injector pump $1800 au. I am not a mechanic but I would change myself. Lots of youtube how to videos.
Local mechanic could have charged up tp $1000 labour so worst case scenario about $3k job. Still a bit of money when they cost $4~5k now.
I picked one up for $3.5k, engine is purring. But I’ll be ready. Fingers crossed. Thanks for shareing your experience.
I was talking to a mate about this and he said he had the same issue, it turned out to be a software computer issue and not the pump at all. He down loaded something that he could diagnose it and re set it but it kept doing it about every month. He showed the fix to ford and they wanted to know nothing about it, they just wanted the 8k. Cheers mate
I had ford mondeo 2.0 tdci. I did similar thing with the program called forscan. I did it when the car went to limp mode. It usually went into limp mode on hard acceleration. In the program you insert each injector code according to cylinder, that resetted the whole thing and you could drive fine, no limp mode. I always carried my laptop and ELM327 with me when driving. This happened once a 1-2 month, then once a week and then eventually this came so often that i had to sell the car.
As i understand, this was not the solution, it was just to postpone the repair of injectors and injector pump etc. Injectors were about 250-300$ each. Principle is when injectors are bad, then the pump is bad, that is because when pump wears out, then it separates small metal shaving and wears out injectors. And when i investigated further, you need to change fuel tank and fuel lines also... . Because when you buy new pump, the warranty is valid only when you change the fuel tank and fuel lines (small metal shavings are still stored in there because of the return line from injectors).
It was expensive. I was young, i had no money, so i sold the car for like 300$ and bought for 500$ volvo 850 2.5tdi (mechanical pump), driving it already 5 years. When i sold the car i swore to myself, i would never buy a ford again.
You can by pass the fuel pump. It’s very straightforward, we fitted a bendix race fuel pump. Works perfectly & reliably. You’ll have to fit a relay, (basically a switch). The Bendix “Gold Top”, produced for Race Cars is readily available & will cost around £80 Sterling. The Garage that we use have done 4 or 5 Ford Transits in the very same manner.
In Australia you can buy an "engineered" conversion kit to fit a Holden V6 and four speed auto to Transit vans for about $1,500 and a good used Commodore motor and trans for maybe another $1,500. The thing will go forever and is much nicer to drive, for half the price! Anyone with reasonable skills can do the conversion themselves.
Nice to see ! Didn’t know that , I’m in nz , thinking a Lexus 1UZ might be a good swap . Petrol is cheaper than diesel here once you add the road user charges in .
Hey Bob
Any tips on where to start with that these days? Im in Melbourne
Does it come in manual?
Lol it’s just a $350 solenoid on the pump not the whole pump common fault
There really should be a place you can go on the web that lists all the parts that are prone to failure, what it costs to replace genuine parts and how much labour it takes to replace the part. Then the dealership servicers will be out of business...
Just tighten up the fuel pressure regulator on the pump, job done.
Three little Alan key bolts.
If they are slightly lose they will effect the running of a vehicle.
There is no trouble codes that directly correlates with the high pressure regulator.
Cost to fix, £1 Alan key.
Pity you weren't around to tell him 2 years ago coz he's sold it but your info may just help us thanks heaps!
Injector pumps on these were always a weakness, but they're fixable. However if you go to ford, you get your pants pulled down.. On these, they're repairable with knowledge using breaker yard parts. They also rust like a bastard but that can be fixed too.
However if you jump forwards to the 2011 onwards models - those are equally soft on the "It'll break" front - they also rust like a bastard (worse even) - and they are NOT repairable. I wouldn't advise anyone to touch one with a 9 foot pole unless you like throwing away money. From 2011 onwards, the steel used changed - it still rusts like every ford van does, but they rust EVERYWHERE to the point there's no "good metal" to work back to - and the steel is as close to un-weldable as I have ever come across. The amount of inclusions (other metals that aren't steel) is unreal - it's like an alloy of junk - probably due to too high a recycled content. It burns & spits like you wouldn't believe when you try weld it.
If you parked a rusted 2004 Transit beside a 2012 one & took a good, proper, expert look, the levels of corrosion would be close to identical - however the 2004 one can usually be fixed. Not easy, but do-able. The 2012 one, I'd be shaking my head & comiserating. Unless the RH front where the inner arch meets the firewall is gone in the 2004 - very common - than that's for the scrapper too, because you ain't fixing that for sensible money either - we see a good few like that too. IMO, if you are considering buying a Transit, cheap or not - bring someone like me who works on them daily, with you - it might just save you a lot of dosh. :-)
Im looking at a 2013, mornington peninsula? You anywhere near? Def pay you to come look 🥰
@@lisah6672 I'm in Ireland. :-)
Options... Crash it or have it disappear and get insurance! Buy a 2nd hand pump off ebay, here in the UK I would have sold you a full engine...everything for £400 Or £80 for just the pump! Going to a Maindealer Is A Big Mistake...
Thanks for sharing the information. Same experience a friend of mine had. It really puts you off. Obviously the reason the van is sold in the first place. All the best.
Bought one for seven grand same thing the limp mode light come on took it to the mechanic , replaced all the injectors fuel pump starter motor. Then took it for a drive with the engine light brown with the other lot of it to a auto electrician they replaced a couple of sentences and the lights come off stayed off for about two days then come back on I’m stuck here now with the engine light on my car goes good but just smell of diesel can’t sell it
do not get ford to do any work on any car they are the biggest rip off out there
Agreed....
@@bettybrigance6784 I fully agree Ford stands for Fix Or Repair Daily, First On Rubbish Dump
biggest rip off are Audi and VW
@@WusXPRS Don't forget BMW
What a rip. I got my injector pump supplied and fitted using original Delphi pump for $2900 at transit automotive in melbourne!!!!
Thank you for the heads up. Sorry that happened man. Hope you get a nice camper set up soon.
Hey George, Thanks for the heads up. You've just saved me a huge amount. I hope it worked out for you in the end.
Would repair that for 200 euro. Couple of hours work. Second hand part 50 euro
Not those prices in Australia unfortunately 😪
@@OFFGRIDGEORGE Everyone's got a relative or mate who's into motors. You don't need a qualified Ford technician to do this for you. Any reasonably competent hobbyist should be well capable. And I think you've learned your lesson regarding main dealers. Stay clear. 12v power outlet burned out in my Ford Courier. Checked with main dealer.... €160 😵. Was passing a breakers yard few days later and thought I'd ask. Had one in a box in the office..... €5. Even threw in a fuse as old one had blown.
It’s Australian dollars so it’s not real money.
A friend of mine who is good with fixing cars would order parts from England. Than do it himself. Lots of you tube videos now on how to do things.
Thanx for the video , good to know what you are getting into. I own an old sprinter , no limp mode thanks god. Cost me quite a bit over the years still 🤪Try non ford dealer , price sounds quite steep .
Same mistake here. Bought a 1999 Ford Transit, 2.5 liter. Going to cost about the same - and....the same pump. It is obsolete. Not made anymore.
Am now going the route of trying a mechanical pump to try and replace the now obsolete electronic pump.
Thanks for the heads up mate. I was looking into getting one. Not anymore.
just saw your video, I have been a Ford Transit Driver all my life, 3 years ago I bought a newer updated version as my old Floor change had so much rot in the bodywork, yet the engine was fine. I bought a Transit 140 T350 Custom limited edition it had so much more than my older versions. I drove it for about 6 months with just minor problems then went abroad for 18 months. Came back and replaced the battery,(JUST OVER £100) then found the oil had leaked out of a hole in the sump pan where it had rotted (£340 FOR A NEW ONE) ( £20 FOR GASKET SEALANT) ( Oil required about £30) Labour is undisclosed at this point. The rear doors and side door wont open, Key Fob is not opening the doors. I tried all the reset stuff I read about and nothing has worked. I cant get it to the garage, and if I did it I fear what the cost would be? My old Transits were great, I could have unlocked individual doors and no problem. At the moment I cant get my tools out and have just about had enough, so unless something happens in a few days then I will take a Disc Cutter to the ******* Door and get it open, get my tools out and sell it for scrap!! FORD ......You have lost a Lifetime Customer, I will never buy another Ford ever again, it costs so much to keep on the road I might as well take my tools and equipment in a Taxi!!
Which year's models did you not have the door opening and other problems with?
Thanks heaps for your comment.
@@markmusumeci5606 If not for the major rust issues that all generations suffer with, the smiley mk5 is the best van ever built imho.
The 2.5Di delivers great mpg with incredible reliability. Even if the cambelt snaps, damage no worse than bent pushrods of broken rockers.
With regular oil changes and filter services, half a million miles between rebuilds is common.
Thanks George . Need to know stuff, appreciated.
Same happened to me , I thought I'll boss this and learn how to change one, I did just that and it cost about a week in labour , and £600 for recon, 50 mile later the clutch went . I fucking give up
Put a Commodore V6 and either auto or manual behind it. Better fuel economy and more power. The V6 engines are a dime a dozen from the wreckers. You can buy a kit from a firm up in Moree or Taree , I forget which one, and all you need to find are 4 main wires for the conversion. Flush your fuel tank out and shorten the tailshaft and Bob's your uncle. Google V6 Commodore conversions and you might change your mind about selling it. I've seen them done and they fit in with heaps of room in the engine bay. Cheers Mark.
Sure about the V6 fuel economy being better Mark? Heard different from a V6 converter, although he might have made a mistake cause of how many cars he sold. He said 16L/100ks. I would like to buy if he's got something wrong.
Thanks for your comment.
I renewed my mk6, 2.4 turbos, clutch slave cylinder. Impossible to reinsert the control rod. It drooped and caught on inside of bellhousing. A little bluetac got that. Total time: 5 min replace cylinder, 10 to bleed, with large syringe pushing from below, 45 to bluetac. ONE hour. On my lawn, no jack required.
Local garages and dealer too, quote 6 hours in their workshop. Got the master and slave together for Ausie $166, fluid 20 all delivered to home. Shop online. The bluetac, with cotton as backbone will drop off to bottom of bellhousing with other dross. Shop around for parts and save.
Thanks George. I have had VW and MB diesels and loved them most diesels are just broken in at 200k km. I have been looking for a Diesel Transit but they are not available in Canada... (until 2020). A warning to anyone out there who goes to the dealer... they are like a fast food joint who want to up sell you. Look at the quote and ask Is this part broken? No then why am I replacing it. The chain rail and timing chain should not have to be replaced at 200k. I would expect a rebuilt engine for $7700 (AUS?) or CDN! Chalk this up to learning experience. Go on your forums first and see what people are complaining about. I also ask people who have the van I am looking for what problems they have had.
First mistake was to go to a Ford dealer!
Yep - never buy retail, and never go back to a dealer for servicing (or anything really).
Your misfortune has just helped me. I paid 5K for a fleet vehicle, another three and a half grand for an engine rebuild due to the same shit you've had. I am livid.
Dude, commercial garages charge through the arse.
2700 labour? That's the type of shit surgeons get paid.
Panwage Pennywhistle
I know right ! Crazy
Other thing with these to be wary of that 6 speed gearbox, they are not as strong as the older 5 speed. Our local Ford dealer keeps a spare rebuilt 6 speed because they know before too long it will be needed! And no doubt NOT CHEAP!
Five speed or six speed, they all begin to pack up at about 150 K's..
I drive a van every day for work in the uk. I’ve had 3 transits and all 3 engines have gave up! My only solution has been a sprinter.
Hate to say it, but I always have bought used vehicles; and I always budget for $2-5k in repair on the vehicle after I purchase it. It may not need it straight out of the gate, but people don't sell vehicles that haven't pissed them off. They may trade them in at the dealer if they're the kind of people that regularly swap cars… But if you're talking about a private party sale, you generally won't find somebody selling a vehicle just because they feel like it... they generally want to get rid of it because it's too much of a hassle.
The last two trucks I've had one of them I had to replace the injector pump on it, and one of them I had to put a new turbo on it. Both of them turned out to be great vehicles which I put over 300,000 miles on them… But both of them required me to put a few thousand dollars of maintenance in early on.
Just bought 2018 basic gas. Hope I don’t have your bad experience. Also hope you don’t give up on van life
I watched a video on youtube the other day a fuel injector pump exchange turned out to be a wire leading to the injector pump was rubbing against something that made it cut off.
Bought my Ford Transit very cheap cause it had the same problem I changed over my old diesel pump with a reconditioned one 1300 fitted in three years ago still run good no problem. Ford wanted $5000 plus labor. Do run around there’s a lot of places you can go to.
This is why you should always get several quotes from different repair places and avoid the dealers, we call them "stealers" in the UK. I had an issue with a car years back was going to fail on the MOT for leak in the flexi pipe, 1st quote £2000 as it needs a flexi pipe and they cost this much from the dealer, 2nd quote £200 to repair the flexi pipe, 3rd garage said "why do think it will fail?" and passed it saying it was only a tiny leak.
Same thing happened to me. I used my Transit for business.
Went to a local Diesel repairer, they were no cheaper than those pricks at Ford. The cost of repairing my injector pump put me out of business
Toyota Hiace. Never breaks down. I love my Hiace.
Mate that sucks ! my local diesel mechanic was more expensive than the dealership.
I'll have to invest in a Toyota hiace 👌👌
Toyota seriously need to get into the high roof cargo van game... I swear they will blow all other competitors out of the water
I love my Hiace too! 2005 with 180k miles on the clock, runs like a dream! 👍
Mate! I had the exact same problem. I bought a transit and the very next day the engine wouldn't start because of a bad injector pump. They said that the computer module that controls the timing of the injectors can fall out of calibration. I was quoted 7.7k to fix and ended up paying 5.5k by reusing existing parts. I've been using excel spreadsheets to keep track of my personal finances ever since ahaha
RAC told me my pump had gone i opened injectors turned key a few times to blow air through tightened them back up bumped it in 2nd gear and left it running for 30mins and it never let me down again RAC told me to scrap it lol...may not be the same for the rest of you but worth a try saved me £400-£600
Great video. I have a 1998 model transit td its stuck in limp mode an doesn't rev over 3grand but if you turn the key off an back on it runs like a dream till 5 minutes later then its back in limp mode I've replaced the vgr valve an 2 other sensors as the wires where well worn I'm taking it into the ford dealers in dubbo as there the only mob with the right scan tool for the job fingers crossed
Ooh no. Thanks for the heads up. I’m looking into transits for same reason. Camper conversion. Best of luck to you.
A late comment I know... but I have just recently bought a 2002 Transit (ex ambo) here in Qld, Australia. It was a 2.4 diesel but has been converted to a Holden VY V6 auto. It is awesome. It uses a bit of fuel, but I just was under it and noticed neither 02 sensor is plugged in, so that would explain. Any update on what you ended up doing with your van? BTW, it is often water in the fuel that kills diesel fuel pumps. I have heard of people replacing the pump and not draining the fuel tank to remove any water... and killed the new fuel pump... DoH!!
had the same thing done in melb for a transit $2k aud at local mechanic. Dropped off on monday, picked it up 7 days later. aftermarket parts, not this bs Ford rate.
mate you got screwed hard
Can you name mechanic in Melbourne.
😂😂😂
Thanks for the warning.
No worries mate 👍
i just got my injectors fuel injector pump timing kit new front tin a few other parts done the whole job parts and labour was $6000 Steve Griffith Gosford nsw austrlia such a honest man
I don't believe you needed new injectors. That the last part to go and the first they charge for because they are so expensive.
@@bicanoo_magic3452 no they changed the injectors fixed a lot of the problem and the pump was also stuffed. I got the parts back and tried to sell the injectors to a reconditioning company he said they were to stuffed to rebuild but bid buy the pump
Also the 4 injectors were only $1600 for my motor
@@kennnyrobo8138 The injectors on that engine are for life ie.1M Kms. You change petrol motor injectors more often for sure. But I had my car diagnosed with the same problem and the same solution. However, it turned out to be a design fault in the ECU i.e on over heated chip which made the car run on only two cylinders. so it looked like a injector issue. I had the ECU repaired and a better heatsink on the chip and its been perfect since. Yet the first mechanic was certain it was the injectors. It only cost $200 to fix the ECU. So there is an incentive to always call out the injectors as the problem.
@@bicanoo_magic3452 I did go to a few mechanics all said the same thing. The reading they were getting pointed to the fuel problems. Since I have had the lot changed u have gone from 400-450 Kim's a tank to 550-600 so I'm happy with that also gets up hills a lot better stay in 6 the hole time
We have EXACTLY the same vehicle, same engine, g'box, fit out everything which we bought dirt cheap (AUS$2200). We have converted it to a camper as well. But it has starter motor issues and is only running on two cylinders. The injectors are bulletproof, so I'm told, yet the parts guys love selling them to you because they are as much as $1800 a set. I've heard of the fuel pump disintegrating as the tolerances are as low as 1-2Microns so it doesn't take much to upset them and ultimately destroy them. Have it removed, inspected and cleaned if the van has done more than 150,000kms. Otherwise you could end up needing a new pump as well as the injectors as the metal from the pump ends up inside the injectors.. Ouch!!
The other issue no one seems to talk about is that they a super super easy to steel. Easy to break into and easy to clone the key on the spot with a $20 gadget available on eBay. So you MUST put a Chastity Belt on the ODBII port and either a MF big padlock or a special set of Transit door locks which cost a bomb.
bicanoo_magic
Thats what must of happened to mine , the injectioner went first then the injector pump.
Aw wow there that's makes it pretty easy to steal. Great tip mate 👍
George. I found out today that the high pressure pumps CAN'T actually be cleaned. They either work or don't work.When they go they go slowly. Bits of debris end up in an injector (like yours) and then its game over. So I'm looking into more filters! Unfortunately these diesels go forever. You can get 500,000K's out of a Transit like yours but the diesel side of things is expensive and not everyone knows how to fix a modern electronic diesel so they just replace things until it works. Very expensive way to fault find. I think that's what happened with you.
We were told our injectors needed replacing because they "'might be dirty"' (BS! they are indestructible as they are under 250 Bar of pressure they can't block from dirty fuel, unless you get swarf inside, even then they are rebuildable). We then substituted one of the misfiring injectors with the working one next to it, NO diff! We were then told the Injector module was gone so we looked at that, substituted the module aaah NO DIFF! It ended up being a blown $2 fuse and possible chaffed wiring. Took a few weeks to figure it out and about an hour to cleanup the wiring loom. Mechanics are notorious Rip Off Merchants. Sorry you had a bad experience with you Tranny!
@@bicanoo_magic3452 Great advice, enjoyed reading that. I just bought a 2006 Ford Transit today with 86,000km and only just seen this video, arrrgggg. Hopefully I brought a gem and not a lemon!
Hey there, I'm in Australia and am looking at buying a 2004 ford transit, do you think it's worth it? I'm going to drive around Australia and want a sturdy vehicle to do it but watching this and hearing the reviews is disheartening
@@roxyshadowhunter5133 how did you go with your transit I'm looking at buying a 2004 and was interested to see how you went
Just had an engine replacement for £1620 innEngine. TransitvMk7 camper. My oil pump seized ebgine and smashed piston.
I just got a quote off a back street mechanic in Birmingham England for the edc/ecu on my fuel pump 250 all in for a used part or 500 brand new.
Diesel Australia is best place to go,would cost a bit over $3000 to fix there
There is a company in Australia that does a Commodore V6 conversion for these. My other thought would be to see a diesel specialist.
Just bought a ford transit 350. love it.
Alot better than any of the competition that's out there.
What about the Mercedes Sprinter ?
I'm glad your transit is going good mate 👌
@@OFFGRIDGEORGE never looked into sprinter or any Chrysler product. I'm a Ford guy 😉
George you’re a legend. 2 years ago... thanks for the heads up!!
You got rinsed, i paid 800gbp for a recon pump fitted. And yes, the pumps are notorious for going at around 120k
Also don't go to the original manufacturer for the parts. I replaced a lot in my car and it didn't cost me a lot to repair myself. Try going to a small local mechanic and ask them
feel for you mate.
i had one i imported from the UK.
no mechanical probs but the salt the put on the roads there kills the underbody.
the rust was MAAAAAJORRRR...
sandblasted it, welded the shit out of all over, then galvanised.
had to be done by certified rust repair place.
but still, instead of looking at the cost, i looked at the savings of living in a van.
paid off 5000 in about 10 weeks, and all i had was this low level job stacking boxes in a warehouse.
How many miles?
Sorry this happened to you brother. Its so much harder to find a van than people realize. You really have to study the vehicles ave research as much as possible. Even then you can still buy a lemon/ pos and not know. That van shouldn't have been sold without the knowledge of that problem. They knew when they sold it. Thats why it only took 2 weeks for the van to go
So sorry to hear bad news. Mechanic can cost a lot of money. I wonder if you shopped around for a decend mechanic? I would help you if I can. But not a mechanic. Pray for you mate for sharing this honesty. God bless.
Buy an old pre 2000 mk5 downwards one with the banana engine. Will live forever. You will just need to get a welder as well lol
Gareth Carberry haha word up!
always had banana engined transits lwb models had 3 now latest one has been to the moon and back i do 50,000 miles a year most reliable vehicles ever but my welder is always on stand by lolol
What is the point of diesel for a cruising van? Gasoline is so much easier and cheaper to maintain. I would only have a diesel if I needed it for heavy loads or heaving towing.
Why would you bring an ol banger to a main dealer ??
Because every other mechanic gove me a bigger quote
It doesn't matter what you bring to a main dealer. They are not called 'stealers' for nothing. I've bought cars in and out of warranty and the age of the car has never discouraged them from trying to rip me off. Lesson learned, and I now use independent garages. The only things I get from the 'stealerships' are the service kits.
@@OFFGRIDGEORGE Yeh they’re all thieves mate.
You got conned. Fixed loads of these it's usually the fuel solonoid metering solonoid or the transistors in the controller. All fairly cheap do it yourself.
how do you diagnose ?
Aliexpress links please.
Sorry to hear this mate. I bought a 2007 Mk7 transit last year and driven all round the UK with no issues (so far). Mind you if anything major goes wrong with it I too will have to sell it. Hope you have better luck next time!
Very sad story,the fuel injection pump is as you now know veeery expensive to overhaul, and takes ours to work,and more money down the drain.
The first warning signs of an malfunctionig injection pump is the engine is wandering as put on idle, still you can drive the car for months before it starts limping while driving. The person who sold you the car maybe is familiar to such psymptoms and decided to sell it before the psymptoms became so obvious for anyone to notice and understand.
The reason it costs so much in labour is because ford don’t have the tool to replace pump without removing timing cover. When my pump failed I made a tool and fixed it myself cost me $2k
Yeah mate that's exactly right!
Ok that's pretty interesting I think if you can film a quick video on your phone and post on UA-cam I think that would help a lot of people. I'm pretty interested because not removing the timing cover would make things so much quicker and easier plus so much cheaper!
Only had to do this 1 time thankfully but it can be done. Do you have any mechanical knowledge and access to tools?
I only basic knowledge.
But I could of got a mate to help if it wasn't too intense.
Unfortunately I've sold the van now anyway.
As in my comment, ford do produce and sell (as long as the parts counter guy can be arsed to search it out on the computer) the special tool. It's made of yellow plastic and my one I have had around 10 years. It has maybe done 40 or 50 pumps in that time.
Yes beware, they are a special beast, mechanics in general don't know how to fix them and will likely fuck it up, you need a transit guru. I bought a cheap Aussie 2004 2.4 high output with shattered ring gear, First mechanic put the wrong flywheel on it so the timing was messed up(actually the aftermarket part supplier lists the wrong flywheel for this model, go oem). Eventually got refunded for this work. They sent it to a diesel mechanic who insisted it was a diesel injector pump. When installing it let the timing chain slacken and dropped a tooth and stuffed timing even more, pretty sure now that it wasn't the pump, will be seeking compensation. Couldn't get it going, said it was electrical sent it to auto electrician. He couldn't get it going but put me onto a mechanic that is a transit guru and does all the local Ford dealer transits (I suspect because even Ford doesn't want to touch them). Finally after almost 1 year the thing will be ready in days and it has been a absolute nightmare.
Where is your guru located, and name of shop.
Man , they are trying to sell you original, most expensive pomp. That's first thing. Second , never go to official ford workshop to fix your ford.
Buy second hand pomp for 50-100$ or little lower quality for more than 100. find a hobby mechanic who will replace it in 2 hours + replace a sealings around the Injectors. And your van is fixed !
I know it's a video from few years back but maybe it will help someone ;)
You got to get to know good mechanics. Like everyone has already said. Don't go buying a Mercedes Benz van. They make $7700 not look too bad in repair costs.....
Yeah Mercedes are cheap in parts 😫
It's hard to find a long wheelbase high roof that isn't a Transit or a Mercedes sprinter.
In Australia that is.
Maybe iveco daily 🤔
@@OFFGRIDGEORGE Iveco are known for injector problems and they are a mongrel to get out mate.
Look into Haynes Manuals. Just make sure that it's the one for you're type of engine. Maybe look into OEM manuals. Take a look for a used part, you have the part numbers... Or maybe aftermarket. Talk to other mechanics and or garages. You can learn to do it yourself but the pump timing - crankcase needs to be 100% correct. It's not a beginner's level job. Anyway, good luck mate.
Haha..sorry to hear you TOO are having the same problem AS EVERYBODY does when dealing with ANY FORD dealer..EVERYTHING for a FORD transit van are beyond FERRARI prices to fix..the alternator is NOT a alternator it is a MAGNETO apparently,so it is $1500 dollars to SUPPLY new ($150 for ANYTHING else)and the manifold is PLASTIC and therefore CHEAPER to PRODUCE and yet to purchase one..THEY TOO are $1500!!Just get a commodore conversion from V/6 Conversions at Taree and,from a commodore,each of those parts are ONE TENTH of THAT cost to replace(and also,they are available from ANY auto retailer).it cost me 10K INCLUDING professional fitment and compliance to install the conversion(now 10 years ago)and running the commodore engine I get MORE power from it NOW with the V/6 in it than the turbo diesel engine that was in the FIRST transit I had until IT blew up(replacement cost was 17 k! installed from ford)and there is more power than the Petrol engine I had in the second one(when IT also blew it TOO..a PETROL(short motor0 ENGINE was ALSO,suddenly 17 k from ford!!)so yes,once I got quotes to do the change over it was an easy decision and worked out with a huge van that drives like a family station wagon and carries half a house-full EASILY with a MUCH STRONGER engine,that has cost me about a $1000 in maintenance in the 10 years since...and I have NEVER had to order parts for itand been able to buy everything for it off the shelf.
Thanks I was looking at exact model. It was looking a bit good to be true so..... What van did you end up getting?
OFF GRID GEORGE, please help. I'm in two minds aboutone of your messages, as at first you said to make sure we buy a common rail engine but then you seemed to say that the common rails are the ones with injector pump issues. What did you really mean, please?
It seems that your year model is a common rail engine, is that also correct?
Good on you for your vid.
Thanks,
Mark
OK. I have this exact same vehicle bought as a 'NO GO' at 'Graysonline auction' (local Australian auction house). I bought the van for AUD$2200.Bargain right? RIght!
Turns out the beast was very well maintained but wouldn't start, and if it did, it would only run on two cylinders.
It only had 183,000Kms on the clock and I'm not a mechanic but am advanced user etc. It turned out to be a common fault in the ECU and a almost dead starter motor. The clutch was full of water because Australian downpours are so heavy that they fill the scuttle panel to overflowing in minutes if they are not perfectly maintained and the water flows into the engines bay and onto the clutch housing.
So all in all, it cost me $800 to fix the ECU issue (I had to fix it becuase an unregistered car cannot get a new code from Ford for a new ECU). The Exedy full clutch kit was $1386 on ebay including DMF, clutch, tools etc and delivery. The clutch will last 600,000+Kms in a campervan so it will never have to be touched again.
All up cost?
$2200+$800+$1400+labour for clutch($600) = AUD$5000. Its now perfectly drivable has all new fluids and filters for that price and is ready for rego. You can not tell me these vans are expensive. Just don't throw yourself at the mercy of a dealership, buy the parts yourself, find a trustworthy diesel mechanic and have patience. These are good cars in general. Not luxury, but predictable.
I don't believe the injector pump actually went on your car as that's usually the cause of very poorly maintained vehicles when the fuel filters are not changed regularly. Otherwise they do not cause problems.
The biggest dealer rip off are the injectors. They will tell you any amount of BS to get you to buy a new set of injectors if it doesn't run smoothly as they are round $2000 a set. They never ever fail on this model but its a great way for them to make serious cash by changing the filters instead.
My hight roof similar to yours 2006 just had the fuel pump gone around June 2020. Took it to ford dealership here they could not diagnose it saying they needed another day. My reply I will pay 1000 bucks if u after another day say what is the problem and how much to fix
just changed that pump on mine cost £800 including labour never go to a Main dealer they always rip you off
Yes mine done the same there are two different pumps and I had the more expensive pump all in cost £1500 but is a real common problem. Never trust a main dealer unless you check around. The main dealer done mine and they where very good. No need for timing chain to be done but the guide was changed so had the chain done as well but they asked first.
Mate u got pumped you can do a pump and timing kit for less than a grand in parts over here done plenty over the years
I was going to buy a transit... seems to be every single one that has these problems... you had the same exact situation as my mate
I only go to the dealer when it's under warranty or if I can't find the problem and I need troubleshooting.
And that's how car dealerships have massive, fancy expensive buildings
Been wanting to get one of these but just can’t seem to find a petrol with the high roof . So been thinking of getting a diesel one but I’m glad I watched your video . Sorry you had bad luck with yours and thanks for doing this video as it helped . Thank you 👍🍻
sad to hear this i bought a jumbo version of this van for 2k and i have had 2.5k done to it by local mechanic( Rocker arms needing replacing) and then i did the rest of the work myself
But word of warning no matter what type of van you have if it is diesel it is going to cost you a fortune and if you get to the Dealerships its going to cost the Dealership tax called theft so best to go to a local diesel mechanic
This was your experience.... not everyone else! Bummer for you though
Diesel pump £450 uk
What year model of van is this?
Im australian and am currently looking into vm series ford transits 2007 - 2013.
The one in the vid is a MK6 or 2001-2005.
Yep I did my research and then bought a petrol 2.0 version due to the price of replacement parts on diesels. Got about 330kms from the original purchase date and the power steering pump died. I`ve got receipts for virtually everything else including a sports exhaust but the one thin not done was the PS pump. I`ve just handed the plates in due to the hassles of trying to find a pump. Bought a motorbike instead. Meanwhile I`ll strip what I want out of the van like all the solar equipment etc and get rid of it. Then I`ll start again. I thought being aussie made might have meant the parts were at least available but cant get a single pump in WA and the Ford Transit Specialists gave up trying to get 1 for me. This is why I stayed away from Fords for so long after having uses with another that was only 11 years old years ago. Parts you COULD get were pricey and the price of those you cant get is irrelevant yet they still wanted me to get my vehicle towed to them, pay for parts then just wait - screw that. I`ve had it with Fords. Never had these issues with any Holden in my life and generally the same parts of the equivalent year Holden's is like 1/3 - 1/2 the price. Never again will I own another Ford. The girl that just moved out of here 6 weeks ago had a XR6 Turbo and man did that have some major issue. In the years she was here she would have spent over $5000 on genuine parts when they were the parts that kept breaking done in the first place. Couldn't even get a water leak fixed properly and after over $1500 on that the motor nearly seized 1 week after she got it back because they lied about fixing the issue. A water leak - LOL
I've used Ford Transits here in the Uk for years and have never ever had any such problems, quite reliable and cheap and inexpensive to repair, easy to repair too, do a lot myself. Never ever had any problem getting spares here though, always easy to lay your hands on, much of its made here and if not its made over on the European mainland, easy to get it.
I`ll give you another example of Ford in Aust. We had a release of a Ford Capri in the 90`s and there was a general manufacturing issue with a number of components. the indicators front and rear, front bumper and the electrical system would frequently have issues till called back for fixing.
Indicators would fall out under breaking or turning and I did see this occur myself. On the automatic version the gear position sensor would not detect what the gear was during driving and then shut the car down.
Maybe you Ford happens to be one of the lucky ones or maybe they aren't made is Australia mate.
Although I've spent quite a bit of time down in Aus over the years I never ever owned nor drove a Ford down there, so can't really give you an opinion. I use Fords here in the Uk though and am quite or very happy with them. once again quite reliable quite cheap to buy and quite easy and inexpensive to repair/maintain etc etc, bout all I can say really mate.
Makes me wonder where yours are being manufactured. I`ve seen a few people that swear by them but in general the Fords I`ve own have had issues with parts. I had a 1985 - 86 1.5l Ford Laser GL and that 1 had the top radiator hose blow 3 times in 2 years because of a design issue making the hose run close to the exhaust manifold. Replaced the water pump twice in around 7,000kms and the carby had to be taken off to be rebuilt over 2 weeks because I could buy a new one. $400 for a damn carby rebuild on a car that had less than 30,000kms from new.
When you come from a servicing industry you get trained to look at things from a certain perspective and for me the issue of reliability and availability of components gets personal when they are more interested in selling you a new/2nd hand car instead of helping fix problems engineered into the old ones.
Ford Transits used to be assembled here up until 2014 when the plant moved to Turkey. Think we still assemble some of their cars but I'm not quite sure, Ford used to make a lot here at one time but not too much anymore. Ford still make a lot of parts here though.
£1500 here to do UK
am sorry , I will pray for you that things get better
I’m not surprised you had problems, given the age and mileage on the van. It would have been an idea to check a breaker’s yard. I’m in the UK, but I scrapped a Transit last week, a 2004, with 105k on the engine and no mechanical faults. If you had been here I would have given you the parts for free!
I wish I was in the UK !! Haha
Thanks mate .
I did search a few wreakers but couldn't find anything unfortunately
Welcome to the world of diesel engines. I believe most diesel pump repairs are expensive.... but dealership repairs are crazy.🙁
Turn it into a horse drawn camper van...
Hahaha best idea yet ! 👌👌👌
He he this happened to my 2006 ford transit here in Ireland last week. Lucky I've had it for 5 years so I've had good use out of it. It just died, as I was 30 minutes into a 1.5 hour drive. Acceleration just died, engine went into limp mode. It showed the glow light on the dashboard and I had never seen that before on the Transit. I pulled off the road, and turnned off the engine, and it turned back on right away. Wend to mechanic next day and it came up with main injector pump failure. I've read on the transit forums about same thing happening, same error codes but it was moisture in the fuel filter, so I'm going to have that changed first, and if it still happens I'm going to buy another van and scrap this one. My mechanic told me it would be 1,000 euro for the new pump and it would cost me just over 2,500 euro in total to have it fitted. That's what I paid for the van. Think I'll buy another HIace. I had a Hiace before this Transit and it was great. Wasn't so good on fuel as the Transit though.
They seem to fail around 100,000 miles. Its a £1000+ repair bill in the UK. It went on the older Durtorq DI in the 2001 onwards in the original design.
God I wish I saw this yesterday. I just bought a 2006 Ford Transit! But its only done 86,000km so perhaps I'm safe .... for now! And I got 3yr mechanical warranty.
Hopefully you'll be fine mate ! Mine had a fair few more km on her. Plus your 3year warranty would come in handy 👌👌
In Australia you can buy an "engineered" conversion kit to fit a Holden V6 and four speed auto to Transit vans for about $1,500 and a good used Commodore motor and trans for maybe another $1,500. The thing will go forever and is much nicer to drive, for half the price! Anyone with reasonable skills can do the conversion themselves.
Another poster, said there are three Allen Key bolts that tighten the fuel pressure regulator on the pumps and that there are no codes which correlate directly to pump issues. First thing to try in future, perhaps.
Also, another poster mentioned blowing air through injectors and then putting injectors back on and running engine for 30mins fixed his problem (diagnosed by RAC as 'pump had gone').
Also, another said tool can be bought from ford (yellow tool) to replace pump cheaply and easily if parts guy could be assed looking for it properly for you.
Furthermore, a poster mentioned evidence that Ford replaces 'brain' (computer or sensor?) to one that is inferior to [deliberately] limit engine life. According to the poster, the stock manufacturer brain could prevent issues. Logically, but unlikely, Ford might replace brain for more sensitivity maybe though? I'm not sure if the poster meant the brain for the whole engine or just the pump.
Finally, another mentioned a rubbed wire was the only real problem in the end.
Hope that helps. Wrote down so I could copy any post to my notes too. Tried to post screenshots but phone wouldn't allow. Good luck. I like the Transit sizing too.
I had the same issue for a recondition one cost me 1200 dollar and presto good as gold. Additional of $200 to install.
Cheers for the heads up.
thansks man
feel for you, at least you tried, most people wouldnt
Own a 2015 transit 250 Miami Fl. Nothing to complain about.
The only similarity between yours and the one in the video is the name and rough shape of the vehicle...
convert it to an electric?? or replace diesel engine with a gasoline engine??