Take Great Nighttime Photos | On Location in 4 National Parks | 35mm Film Cameras in Venice
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- In this episode of Photography Online, we continue the UK National Parks challenge and attempt to shoot 3 in a single day. We then head out under the stars for Essential Camera Skills to give you all the basics on how to shoot the Milky Way or Aurora Borealis. Then we explore a lesser known location in Dartmoor and head off to Venice with a couple of 35mm film cameras.
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The best overall photography program on UA-cam. No exaggerated sponsored hawking of one or two brands. Just honest opinions based upon real-world use with segments on a wide range of topics to be useful for photographers at every level. All done with humor.
Thanks for your kind words Stuart. Great to hear you enjoy the show.
You 3 are Photography worlds answer to Top Gear! Love it. 😂
Thanks Ben. We'll take that.
James, your Miss Foxy Dog can come and live with me any ole time she likes! She's beautiful, and a great model too. 🙂
You might regret making that offer!
I very much doubt it, but I think we all know she wouldn't want to leave her wonderful home and all the love she already has. Some things are just too good to lose! Please give her a big cuddle from me. Thanks.🙂
My favourite presenter delivered another entertaining show while the protagonists out in the field did the same with their stunning images. The first one with Hadrian‘s wall takes you easily back 2000 years. The ones from the Dale are fabulous while the village shot even provided some good insight into how to properly expose with a LF camera. Looking forward to the next episode of this challenge. 😊
Now you've started an argument in the office about who you were referring to as your favourite!
the wine bottle visual gag was hilarious 🤣
Good to see someone noticed!
@@PhotographyOnline Didn't notice until i watched it again......Hilarious
Great show, please know that your efforts are so well appreciated, and very much valued. Really makes me appreciate the many styles of photography to learn from and explore. Thanks for teaching and inspiring! 🙂👍📸
Thank you very much!
I've been at Astro photography since 2017 and each session is another lesson learnt. For me, it's the most challenging type of photography but has great rewards if it all goes well.
Totally agree!
Took me a while to watch this ( dam work getting in the way). Absolutely brilliant as always. Analogue affairs was fantastic. Also how beautiful is that doggy
Another great show! You are so fortunate not to have so much light pollution on Skye. And, I love the feature on Dartmoor with James. I appreciate that you shared the behind the scenes aspects of the feature and also shared the falls location as well. I only found the Rha Falls on Skye last year because you shared that special location. The hidden jems are great if you can get to them! Go Poos! Cheers!
Thanks Scott. Glad to hear you are benefitting from our content. All the best, and thanks for your support.
Another great show, as an aside, I've been listening to the podcasts too. Wasn't sure how they would work, but so far I've found them very interesting. Thanks guys!
Thabks for your continued support Bob - we appreciate it
Nice job all around! A perfect way to spend a Sunday afternoon.
Thanks Pete. All the best
Loving the shows and the challenge. Keep the great work up.
Thanks! Will do!
Another great show, thank you all! James’ dog is majestic 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you very much!!! You're back and I'm glad! Lots to see here in these hour videos. Concerning Ruth's segment, Minolta vs. Leica......seems like the Minolta was taking better photos....
The Leica would certainly win on sharpness, but only if you had the ability to pull enough detail out of a scan or print. We only have a flat bed scanner, so there would be no noticeable differences between the two. We purposely didn't compare them for this reason. Both are great cameras, capable of taking great photos though. Thanks for watching. All the best.
Really nice item about star photography. Thank you! Going to test my Sigma 24mm f/1.4 for that. I also heard about taking multiple photos and layer those with an app like Starry Landscape Stacker to lower the noise. Greets from the Netherlands.
Glad it was helpful!
Stacking is indeed an easy next step for countering noise. Important to recognise that shooting at night results in more image noise given the absence of light generally beyond ISO choices. If you're after pin point stars, the NPF rule is helpful in determining maximum exposure time (lots of apps can calculate that for you). Also worth knowing that stacking has diminishing returns - 8 images produce a decent result most times, 16 and it starts to be hard to see much difference as more are added.
Hope that's useful!
I love that view of Staithes. So photogenic. I've shot that on a number of occasions over the years, both digitally and on medium format transparency - my old Mamiya RZ67, sadly no longer with me. As a professional watercolourist, I've also painted it from my photographic reference.
Great to hear Ian. Hope it brought back some good memories. Thanks for watching
So great to see you all back really enjoyed the show.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Team: Another great show! I am really enjoying your new format. The segment on the National Park Challenge is very interesting as person not living in the UK. It was nice to see Chris Sale on this segment as I am currently being mentored by Chris. Ruth, you segment in Venice was so nice to see. We were there in October 2023 and I am still editing some of these images. Keep well. Cheers, Keith (Canada)
Awesome! Thank you!
Gavin motion blur for me every time. As for your channel I love what you’re doing now. I have watched many channels through the years but your channel is the one I always look forward to seeing it’s entertaining funny and informative. I will keep following on whichever way you choose to go keep happy buddy
I shot film for almost 30 years starting in the early 1970's growing through several Minolta cameras, including an X-300 like you were using. I was very reluctantly dragged, kicking and screaming the whole way, into digital when Kodachrome died. I have since scanned and catalogued all 20,000+ of my slides and those almost-50-year-old images still look as good as the day they were taken. While shooting film might be fun and different for someone who has never done it, I would never go back now.
I had same camera in 80s which started my love for photography. Minotaur x300
The Dartmoor images are beautiful with a cute „model“ ❤ … Venice is certainly an experience with a film camera, beautifully executed. As far as the incoming water, I take it that a girl from Scotland is not too unfamiliar with 😅 … keep the good stuff coming. Onwards and upwards … 😊
Thanks HM. We appreciate your input. All the best.
The Minolta X-300 is a great piece. I have one as well and it has one of the best mirror slaps in m opinion. The viewfinder is super bright and focussing easy. It feels much more plastic-y than my older SRTs but has the much better light meter. I HIGHLY recommend the X-300 as an everyday film camera.
Thanks for sharing
Love the National Park challenge. James' spaniel is gorgeous. B&W in Venice? Sacrilege !! But agree on the process being part of, if not the most, enjoyable part of photography (I guess that's why Marcus loves his Shenhua 4x5 : there's a Shenhua store in the massive 3 building 5 floor camera mall where I live, Shanghai, Marcus would be in his element)!
Great to hear you are enjoying the challenge. More to come!
Great show as always! Some great tips with astrophotography!
Thanks. We’re glad to hear you enjoyed it. Good luck with the Astro!
Brilliant video the Camera bag that you mentioned at the end you didn’t say what make it was , it looked just right for what I need 😊
Hi Mark. The bag is a Think Tank Retrospective 7. It’s a great bag. We have a couple of them and they’re perfect for urban environments where you need easy access to your gear. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
@@PhotographyOnline thank you 😊
Excellent content , very knowledgeable and amusing presenters .As former pro that used mainly film I find Marcus particularly entertaining ,great stuff.
Thanks Michael. We’re happy to hear you enjoyed the show. All the best
Another great show - I love the varied content.
More to come!
Thank you for another brilliant show. ❤❤❤❤
You’re welcome Chris. Thanks for your support and for watching. All the best.
Always interested in anything film related. I have recently purchased a Nikon F-100 and a 35mm lens. That I have come to love for film. Also, shooting 400 speed color film. I like to hand hold for film. I send my film out to lab for developing and printing like in the old days when shooting film.
Great to hear John. Keep up the fun!
A great video. I enjoyed very much
The trip in Venezia.
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant show once again Team. Answering the question by Marcus re the Hadrian’s Wall images, I prefer the first one because it looks to have more detail in the shadow areas, both great shots though.
Glad you enjoyed it
I also prefer the 1st Hadrian wall shot!
I might not be able to watch the next PO Live - live, as a supporter is it still available afterwards?
Hi Ian, yes you can watch at any time you like if you miss the live show. All the best.
When shooting the fishing village, a tilt shift lens isn't necessary to get the shot with the digital mirrorless; just use the vertical transform slider in lightroom to correct the tilted buildings. It doen't really matter if your making the perspective correction in the lens, by offsetting the camera using the bellows, or by direct computational manipulation of the pixels. Also, while your at it, shoot a couple of HDR shots to get detail in both the shadows and the highlights. The large format film camera may be fun to mess with, but it doesn't actually have any advantages that can't be duplicated in the mirrorless by multiple shots and minimal post processing.
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. You are wrong in your assumption that "correcting" perspective in the computer is the same as doing it with a lens. When you do it on a computer, you end up with objects being out of proportion, because you are stretching one axis without stretching the other. In many situations, this wouldn't be noticeable, but in others it is very obvious. As for the HDR - it wasn't necessary and we don't like doing that anyway.
Awesome show as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great show everyone.
I preferred the first image Marcus.
Ruth you managed to capture some really great film image's.
I think the challenges are great.
Look forward to the next one.
Glad you enjoyed it Tim. Thanks as always for watching.
Another cracking show, one point, Nick could have mentioned a Dew Heater for the lens in the Astro feature, relatively cheap, can by powered from a power bank and keeps the frost/ condensation off the lens 👍
Cheers David. We’ve never used one but hear they are good.
@@PhotographyOnline they are good and around £20.00
Yeah, this was on the basics of astro photography. There were so many different things we could have gone through, it would have filled the whole show :)
For extended sessions, with a tracker particularly, I'd use a dew heater but for a quick bit of landscape astro it's rarely necessary other than in extreme conditions. I've managed decent results with a good old lens cloth and rocket blower which many a photographer has lying around.
First shot of Hadrians Wall Marcus, if it had been digital you could have blended them together and achieved near perfection
Marcus would never cheat! Thanks for watching Roger.
I vote for the second Hadrian’s ( 5x4) wall shot, I don’t mind the flare.
Thanks for your input Russell. It’s good to hear which version people prefer.
Welcome to the dark slide
We have arrived!
Brilliant again 👏
Cheers Craig. Thanks for watching.
Greetings from Colorado USA
Cheers. Thanks for watching
Great show, you would have to be a dedicated film buff to buy the Lieca, 3k? Once again no mention of Olympus/OM Systems. Your article on astro, the Olympus has built in starry sky AF! Do not want to be critical but how about illuminating the church and correcting converging verticles?
Hi Steve. We can only use cameras which we have. We don’t have any OM System cameras, which is why you don’t see them featured much, we do discuss their new camera on our podcast this month. As for the convergence of the church - it’s too much to correct, otherwise you lose too much sky in the crop. When shooting wide angle up towards the sky, convergence is just something you need to embrace. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. All the best.
I think @NickHansonPhotography should have mentioned star blurring (caused by the earth's rotation during the long exposure) in the astro segment. Yes, 14mm at 30 seconds, as demonstrated, would be just on the outside edge of acceptable. Even if you don't want to do the detailed analysis (lens and sensor are a factor) to come up with the maximum acceptable shutter length to avoid any discernable star blurring, the 400 rule works well. Divide 400 by the focal length (e.g. 400/14mm = 25.5 seconds) and you come up with the longest shutter speed that will render sharp-looking stars. And the use of a self-timer to avoid camera-shake would also have been a good suggestion. I would not recommend a remote release. People tend to let them dangle and even with a light breeze, they are, like camera straps, the enemy of sharp photos. Cheers
Hi Scott. The feature was intended to cover the basics. We didn't want to get too technical as it puts people off. There was lots we could have mentioned but chose not to. Thanks for watching.
Sharp in astro is like many photographic elements, somewhat subjective. If you're maximally focused on that, you'll likely want the NPF rule and grab yourself one of the many apps to do the math (a number of those allow for specifying lens and camera by name etc saving the need to lookup sensor information and such, yay!) then think about stacking, maybe consider a tracker and on and on but...
Many a good astro photograph has abused the classic rules with not quite sharp stars producing aesthetically pleasing results and giving the creator joy. Nothing wrong with that.
At 25:44 , problematic are only coloured LEDs, specially the red one of course. A white LED which you can stop down to almost zero is unproblematic unless you walk across the composition of the others. A red one spills its light everywhere, illuminates the whole area red, also stopped down and without walking through the composition of the others.
Great show, only spoilt by the 13.5 minute advert i had to sit through, thanks UA-cam
13.5 minutes seems long for an advert!
@@PhotographyOnline I agree, was same on last months, advert from Park Cameras for products i had no interest in.
On their recent podcast, they addressed the question, "Do we really need focus-stacking?"
The guys, and Marcus in particular who said he's never used the technique, were mainly on the side of no, we don't need it.
Well landscape astrophotography is a perfect use-case for it. For example, the abandoned church composition at [ua-cam.com/video/DGC2_YI5wq0/v-deo.htmlsi=ZYRwQeHq652HoaNz&t=1915] would not have both the church and the stars in focus because you'll be shooting at f/2.8 or faster and the depth of field, even on a 14mm will be to thin to capture foreground and sky as sharp.
So You will need to take one exposure focused on the church, and then one exposure focused on the stars and then stack them in post-production. Can't believe the guys didn't think of this situation.
Infinity on a 14mm lens starts around 15 metres from the camera. If you’re less than 15m from a church then you’re too close to it to see the sky! In our example, the church was 40 metres away, so even at f/1.4 it is perfectly achievable to get both the stars and the church pin sharp - as they are essentially in the same plane of focus.
@@PhotographyOnline well the subject won't always be as big and far as a church. Could be a cactus or tree or something closer than 15 meters so let's agree to disagree. haha
@@enochcastleberry5197 This was on the basics of astro photography. There were so many different things we could have gone through, it would have filled the whole show :)
@@NickHansonPhotography no worries, fair point. I appreciate the content. I'm just surprised the guys didn't think of the use-case when discussing focus-stacking on the podcast
@@enochcastleberry5197 Think about how long film photographers have gone without needing to focus stacking, and I'm not talking about with cameras with tilt/shift/swing functionality. Not everything front to back has to be pin sharp.
I prefer the earlier shot, Mark.
Thanks for watching.
For me, the dog image was the high point of this episode of Film Photography Online. Need to think how I might be able to achieve something along those lines with my mutt. Perhaps AI will help....................
Did you notice what looked like man’s profile in the rocks between the two waterfalls?
Yes, a few people have mentioned this. Hope you enjoyed the show. Thanks for watching
Composition is still something of a mystery to me, wish I could understand it better.
What part is it that seems to be a mystery?
@@PhotographyOnline When you read about composition there is theory like law of thirds or golden ratio (and the reminder to ignore the 'rules') and after the image is taken there is deconstruction, why an image works. The process of making theory into art seems to be skipped. Bresson said he would walk and see an image and wait for the conditions to occur to take the shot. Greg Heisler talks about getting the idea for an image from the famous element of his client and he would practice it in studio. Kinda like where the guys today talked about moving around the waterfall because they liked or didn't like certain elements. Maybe another way to say this is; some people have to learn the aesthetic in looking for a picture, it isn't natural to them. Perhaps I don't know what I'm missing and it makes the question hard to form.
@@JS-wz3km - you’re not alone in that dilemma. Many people over complicate composition. Remember that it is subjective, so there is no right and wrong necessarily. This is why it is difficult to teach. Composition should be something you feel rather than create. Personally (Marcus), I always tell people that if you are struggling with composition, then it usually means you are standing in the wrong place. If you get the position of the camera correct, then the rest of the compositional factors should fall into place easily. We’ll try to cover it on a later show. Thanks for the question.
I have to say I thought the minolta cameras pictures were great
They were. Just proves you can get a great kit for under £100
Brilliant video guys, I'm really keen to get some more astrophotography done this year so was a great help. I was also up on Gowbarrow fell a few weeks back with stunning conditions looking over Ullswater so looking forward to see the next video. ua-cam.com/video/oc3rGksxixs/v-deo.htmlsi=2IZNqBQbmZoDmYgZ
Nice one!
I had to laugh. In your intro you have a ticking sound and show a watch.......that's not running.
Glad it’s so easy to make you laugh.
@@PhotographyOnlineIt ain't easy these days.😝