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I discovered Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek The Original Series in 1972 and fell in love with it even though I was only 8 years old. In 1973, Star Trek The Animated Series premiered on NBC Saturday Morning Cartoons, and kept me entertained until it finished its run in 1974.
Like many other Star Trek fans, I waited and waited as the powers that be kept saying we would get Star Trek Planet of The Titans, then Star Trek Phase 2, until finally premiering Star Trek The Motion Picture in 1979.
As the Harve Bennett movies of the 1980’s began, I was at the theatre on opening night for Nicholas Meyer’s Star Trek II : The Wrath of Khan, Leonard Nimoy’s Star Trek III : The Search for Spock & Star Trek IV : The Voyage Home, William Shatner’s Star Trek V : The Final Frontier, and Star Trek VI : The Undiscovered Country.
Before the decade ended, we got Star Trek : The Next Generation. Which, among other things, introduced us to the three letter Star Trek designations with the introduction of TOS for The Original Series, TAS for The Animated Series, and TNG for The Next Generation. We also were introduced to Rick Berman, who went on to give us Star Trek : Deep Space Nine ( DS9 ), Star Trek : Voyager ( VOY ), and Star Trek : Enterprise ( ENT ).
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Having family in various print industries, and myself having the grandest career in the aerospace industry I can say; Blueprints, white lines from a background of blue ink are used mostly for buildings because they'll be used in bright sun, and white paper dazzles the users. Bluelines, or simply prints, blue lines on white paper are used for indoor made engineering.
That is so cool! Thanks for the info, it makes sense to me now as to why there is a distinction.
Although Matt may have never used the word nacelle, Kirk did in say "warp drive nacelles" in the episode "The Apple" at 25:51.
A resident of Huntington Beach at the time, I was one of the attendees of the exhibition where the 11-footer was displayed at Golden West College. In a preview of the role it would fill at the Smithsonian, the Enterprise was meant to be a fantasy counterpoint to a real space capsule and other NASA paraphernalia, but of course wound up being the star of the show. I used to have a black and white Polariod of the model as it appeared then, minus the deflector dish and nacelle caps, but like Jeffries’ four-inch balsa model it has sadly been lost to time.
The model and I reunited at the Smithsonian gift shop in 2009. We had both seen better days - her nacelles were out of true, and there was that notorious paint job, but there was some satisfaction to be had that we were both, against all odds, still here at all. Now, after her total refurbishment (would that I could get the same!) I’m looking forward to our third reunion, hopefully sometime in the near future.
Thank you soooo much. I been a fan since 1971 now my grandkids are fans of the original show. This vid gives the Enterprise as a history lesson and shows how hollywood used to do the effects to make a sci fi show. Thanks again.
Awesome pictorial history🖖🏻🖖🏻🖖🏻
Thanks for giving me a credit Jim... Mike Makkreel
This is, without a doubt, THE most comprehensive history of the evolution of the USS Enterprise miniature!!! Lots of new insights and pictures that I’ve never heard/seen of. I’m very much looking forward to more of these!
Glad you enjoyed it! I will be doing more videos in the near future that will take us through every individual restoration ever done, between the 1974 donation and now.
Even though I knew the overall story as a fan since 1966, your videos always flesh out the full details with historic images and should be considered definitive Star Trek production canon. And your videos are addictive.
At 14:00 to 18:00 This is what I talked about in your earlier video. People had asked the right question all the way back in the mid-1970s, but that question and the answer were lost to time and to people who, unfortunately, got caught up in their own self-importance and created a horrible doctrine rather than admit they were wrong. This kind of thinking lead to the awful 1991 "restoration" with the ugly green color with thick lines (which Datin blasted at the time as completely wrong) which lead to lots of inaccurate paint jobs and detailing on models that fans made in that time period and into the early 2000s.
That fanzine article I told you about in the comment section of the other video did tell about the 11 foot model being originally delivered with the port side finished or nearly so, but was then destroyed to run the cables for the lights into the model since it hadn't originally been built in the first place with lights of any kind in mind. It even had an incredibly rare photo of the model from the port side, but like a lot of such things back then, they kept popping up at conventions by the boatload and then disappear as people grabbed them up. I'm convinced that those photos, like the one Doug Drexler sent you, are out there, but they'll probably only pop up again at an estate sale or something like that, assuming they and their negatives haven't been destroyed.
I'm just glad that after all these many years and dealing with blind sheeple telling me I was wrong to finally be proven right. Richard Datin's own comment and that photo from Doug finally set the record straight.
Hi Mike! Good to see you again. I've been trying to identify the fanzine that you remembered. Right now, I suspect it was TREK. Unfortunately, I can't find any early issues at all. But I did literally just buy all 18 paperback "best of trek" books. Maybe I will be able to find it in there.
I 100% believe that it told the same story I discovered. Simply because it was way too new for people to have already started simply repeating other people. Unfortunately, if it was a fanzine, theres a good chance that it has been lost.
I just find it frustrating when folks who should know better present themselves as an authority on the subject. NONE of us are authorities on this subject. The only true authorities are now log since passed. And if people don't wake up and start questioning things - then they will 100% be lost to time.
@@TREK-WORLD Thanks! I do remember Best of Trek, but sadly none of those reprinted articles had copies of the photos from the fanzine articles, which is a real shame.
In fairness to Ed Miarecki, he had the right idea, but went about it in the wrong way. The 11 footer did have a grey-green paint job, but not the way he decided to do it. And at the time, while there was no internet to go look stuff up on, he still has no excuse for not being able to get in contact with Matt Jefferies and more importantly, Richard Datin, both of whom were alive at the time. It wouldn't have been all that hard to get in touch with them given the contacts and resources Miarecki had at his disposal.
And yes, Datin did (rightly) roast the Smithsonian and Miarecki for botching the job.
@@TREK-WORLD Best of Trek had some absolutely amazing covers, but they were only peripherally anything Star Trek-like in subject. One cover had two Y-wing-esque ships attacking a big green greebled up ship. What that had to to with Star Trek, I've no clue.
It's kind of the same with the James Blish TOS episode adaptation books. Some of the art on that is much more recognizable as looking properly Trek, but the departures are real interesting and make for interesting reimaginings of the look for TOS. Star Trek 10 was interestingly very prophetic by showing the Enterprise firing on a Klingon D7, blasting a chunk out of it with a green phaser beam, and each ship has very Star Wars-like detailing: hull paneling, greeblings, and the Enterprise has a wedge shaped piece on the engineering hull right where the Phase II and TMP refit Enterprise would have their photon torpedo bay at! I wonder if this cover was seen by Jefferies or Andrew Probert....
These covers might make for a fun video subject. Just sayin'.
Wow, those shots from the college at the end are amazing. Don't think I've ever seen such clear color shots of the original paint job before. And the interior lights are far warmer and yellower than I expected too.
If you had never seen the model in the 1970s or 80s, you'd see that the old incandescent bulbs used tended to be warmer and yellower for the windows and some of the running lights as well as the domes. We'll never know for sure exactly how the nacelle dome lights looked, but if you're old enough to remember the old incandescent Christmas tree light bulbs, you'll have an idea since that's what they used to help create the effect.
The look would change over time as the model got covered in dust and grime or the plastics dulled out due to the heat of the lights, or the lights got closer to the end of their life.
The studio tried to avoid filming the model, except when absolutely necessary because the combined heat of the studio 5 k lights and the models own internal lights risked overheating the model and damaging it.
The 2016 restoration with LED bulbs is very nice, but still falls somewhat short of the proper look, but at least it reduced the risk of fire and heat damage in general. It's just a miracle that the model was so well built that it withstood decades at the Smithsonian with the older incandescent bulbs going full on nearly every day!
Brought back so many memories - as always. Thank you!
THIS IS SOO AWSOME! I'm loving it!
Wow, this is a video that I was hoping you’d be putting out sometime and it did not disappoint at all. Great to see the detail you went into here, and hope that if anymore info comes out in the future that you’ll be able to provide them to all of us. Have a good weekend, and keep on trekkin!
Hi William! Thanks for the kind words. I’ve kept a second file for followups in the event that I get new photos/stories that could shed more light on the model over the years.
There is a YT person called Mr. Trek who is working on a 40 foot long Enterprise. An ambitious project for sure. He is in the "mock-up" stage showing interiors. Quite amazing. Love your video. Fabulous.🤗
😀 Thanks for the kind words! I've seen his videos, and I will keep an eye open when he does updates. It's a very ambitious project to say the least. I'll be curious to see what he plans to do with it after it's completed.
The first British HMS Enterprise was captured May 1705 from the French navy. It's Construction times being what they were it's conceivable, though not documented, the keel could have been laid in 1701. That gives 3 to 4 years from keel to capture. That could be the source of the 1701 registry number.
The slate calls for an Optical shot not an optional shot.
I had always felt that the enterprise was designed using a side profile of pegasus
Great video 🖖🏾I guess the mystery of the third missing box will never be solved 😥
Absolutely wonderful video. Thorough and accurate
Excellent video! I'm reasonably knowledgable about the changes the model went through and you've only added to my brain bank lol
Thanks! I recently discovered something about the nacelle modifications made when they installed the lights that completely contradicted everything that I had ever heard about them. Someone sent me a letter written to them by Richard Datin that provided all sorts of info I had never seen before. I’ll put together a video specifically on the letter and its contents. However; next up within the month will be a complete review in depth of each of the Smithsonian restorations beginning with the 1974 Rogay restoration and ending with some stuff that Gary Kerr gave me to show about the last restoration that I think a lot of folks will be tickled to finally see.
You know it never ceases to amaze me when I still see something new that I have never seen before. I have been a Trek Fan in I was 12, 1975. I have always been fascinated by the more production side of it and I wanted to get into visual effects after becoming interested in how they filmed the miniature. I have always read everything I could about this. But when I saw the 1701A written here from 1965, that blew me away. WOW, all the way back then they thought of this. One question I have. Do you mean that after Space Seed the model was pushed to the side and never used again? No new shots for 2nd and 3rd season of the 11 foot model? Because in the picture at 32:17 it shows it with the Botany Bay.
The last time the used it was in the Trouble with Tribbles. After that, they stuck it in a corner and just used stock footage. So it was used for Space Seed; but wasn't used at all in season 3.
It's ironic Roddenberry didn't want the ship to be either a flying saucer or a rocket ship, when the final product ended up being a flying saucer with two classic rocket ships attached.
Fun fact:
The Polar Lights kit, with its stated scale of 1:1000, is just over eleven inches long. The filming miniature is just over eleven feet long, giving the kit model a real-world scale of 1: 12. Set up a couple of six-inch action figures next to it to give you a sense of the size of the miniature.
And the Polar Lights kit, with its stated scale of 1:350, is almost exactly the same size as the original thirty-three-inch maquette...no action figures required.
I believe everything else you tell me, Jim. Why would I not believe you today?
Fascinating
A very interesting documentary. You have confirmed many of the things I knew about the model but also told me so much more that I had not hear, nor seen, before. Though I was a preteen while watching the reruns at the start of the 1970's I often noticed how the Enterprise's appearance kept changing from one episode to the next. It was much later in life that I found out how they had shot a lot of stock footage that was resused. The same tactic used on ST:TNG. It's still on my bucket list to visit the Smithsonian for the sole purpose of seeing this amazing model (which is almost as old as I am and in much better condition! LOL).
18:17 I wouldn't say stripped, but painted over.
31:52 I believe this shot was used in the episode Let This Be You Last Battlefield.
Hi Patrick! Nice to see you here. While they used bits and pieces all over the place, the whole actual sequence wasn't used. Primarily because you can see a shadow on the nacelle from the stage lights as they turned the model. Whenever this happened, they had to take the shot a again. If they didn't catch it in time, then they would replace it with a similar shot they had previously taken.
You have done another wonderful job of detailing the history and evolution of the original ST: Enterprise.
Absolutely wonderful!
Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot to me.
A. Mazing. Thank you!
At 31:05 the nacelle domes look like a totally new effect. I wonder if they were trying different looks?
I noticed that as well. My thought is that they may have been trying different random patterns during the restoration process to be sure that the colors they programmed would stay correct no matter what the sequence was. But that's a good question. The next time I reach out to someone like Gary, I'll bring it up.
The lesser shadow on the white building in the background at 9:38 compared to later shots supports the idea that this was the first shot, assuming the delivery was in the afternoon, and not the morning.
This is one of the best things I love about this community! I hadn't even considered the shadows until you mentioned them,. But I believe they also support that it was taken first.
Amazing! I just love trying to deduce things and then finding additional facts to support the deduction.
😀😀 Unfortunately, it can also come out the other way around.
-Jim
@@TREK-WORLD If you know the location you can figure out the compass orientation and get the time of day and verify the photo order.
You didn't mention the removal of the spiky things from the front of the nacelle domes. I assume they were removed when the domes became illuminated. Also, the illumination seemed to differ. Sometimes it was a spinning effect and other times a sparkly effect.
In the 70s I had the Star Fleet Tech Manual and the blueprints for the original Enterprise. Unfortunately, shortly after I joined the army, my parents tossed out a box of my old stuff that they got tired of moving every time they changed houses.
Thank you so much for putting out such awesome videos, just brilliant. It also is great that you can reach out to people in the know aka Gary and others.
Thanks again
I have been humbled and amazed at how many of them reached out to introduce themselves to me. The kindness of answering my questions and chatting with me is something I could never repay. It's hard to remember at times that they are every bit as much fans as we are.
The long-range establishing shot, the standard-approach shot, the left to right shot, are all fabulous looking (or rather make the ship look fabulous) because our view is slightly underneath which makes the ship look bigger (like standing on a pier looking up at a giant cruise ship going by). But all the other shots, including the long-approach shot as the ship turns, are not good because now the ship is at a bad angle (seen from above) that reduces the size of the model (like flying high over a cruise ship in a helicopter, makes it looks small in perspective).
Thanks!
I remember seeing the 11' model at the Smithsonian in DC. It was hanging in the gift shop.
I remember that there was wiring and no banner in the port side of the lower section.
The port side was never "completed", it's where they ran the wires for the internal lighting, which wasn't added until the first season production episodes started, it was absent in the two pilots
That word again : Iconic 🙄
The second pilot had an injection of capital and we see the improvement to 1701 for Shatner's command. Thank god for Lucy.
Y'know... Some of those unused Matt Jeffries ideas for the Enterprise look like they'd make great staring points for alien ship designs. Perfect inspiration for SNW maybe?
That would be cool!
Thank You AGAIN for all your time - effort - and attention to detail!
Keep up the good work!
My pleasure!
Another thing you'll notice when you watch the Adam Savage video is that the skylight and edge windows on the primary hull's aft port quarter are not illuminated; they're simple paint effects. The skylight is painted white, and the windows are painted grey.
Yeah. I saw that in the video. They actually discussed some interesting facts (like the windows in the saucer being punched out). But my first cut of this video weighed in at just under an hour…. So I didn’t go into as much detail on how they created the effects. But you’ve given me a good idea to keep track of. It would probably be fascinating to look at the effects that were created by “cheating” rather than practicle effects.
@@TREK-WORLD The skylight is actually visible in this video as well -- during the Golden West College segment, at about 34 minutes, where viewers can see the three other skylights brightly lit from within, but the aft port one is a dull grey.
@@TREK-WORLD Let’s see that one-hour video. I would readily invest the time to watch it!
Amazing and informative video.
Thank you!
At 24 minutes in, a photo of a man holding a sign reading, "For Opt. Flop Over" and "Past". This does NOT mean "optional", but 'Optical", as that is a term ued in film processing.
Cool! Thanks for letting me know. It makes sense. I didn’t even think about optical compositing. Which I should have.
Brilliant.
1701 was the address of the model builder, I remember a starlog article with a photo of the builder leaning on his mailbox numbered 1701. there is a photo in an aviation history book of a biplane with a large NCC on the left wing, standing for navy Curtis class.
Hi there! Actually, the model builder didn't come up with the registry numbers. Richard Datin built the models and painted and detailed them. But the NCC-1701 was decided by Matt Jefferies and was noted in the Blueprints that Matt gave Richard. The house number rumor has been around for years. But no one has any proof other that a photo showing the wrong person standing a 1701.. If you search for the original story, you will see that people retell it with different persons; some say it was Datin, some say it was Roddenberry, some say it was Lynnwood Dunn, and some say it was Matt. However, the only person it could have been would be Matt. And he was very specific on where the NCC and 1701 numbers came from. Matt did address the NCC coincidence; but he was clear it was a coincidence. But it got worse when folks at Desilu started using the Curtis designation during the second season production.
The number myths are amazingly varied. I could probably do a video on them alone. It may kind of be fun....
For instance; there is a scene in Forbidden Planet where one of the crew call out the numbers 1701. And there's a whole boatload of folks who believe that's where it came from. But in the end; the man who actually chose them went on record that none of the above was even considered when he came up with the registry.
Once again - wonderful detailed research and information. I'M TELLING EVERYONE!!
Wow, thank you!
Can you imagine if some car had come careeing down the road and clipped the model?!
My blood pressure rises just at the thought! 😀
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed very nicely and very well informatively explained in every way and detail possibly provided indeed 👌.
Glad you liked it!
Everyone talks about CGI and AI today, but Jefferies had nothing more than pencil, paper and paint and he managed to make something incredible. It's not the method, it's the idea that's important. No amount of CGI can make a bad design good. Look at the Enterprise model sitting on the street outside the model facility. The car (Ford?) looks incredibly out of date, the phone booth past the car is a fading memory today -- Enterprise still looks futuristic.
EXACTLY! NO NEED FOR CGI AND A.I. at all! Forget the past, No more!
Please talk to Lou Dalmoso from Aztec Dummy! He is a total expert on the Enterprise color and you need to pick his brain!
I will check this out today. Thanks for the tip! One of next videos goes over the whole Smithsonian restoration ordeals from 1974 until 2022. I would love to get his take on the 1991 restoration as well as the last one.
Thanks! Your videos are always fantastic , is there video on the Romulan Bird of Prey in our future?
Hi Charles! I did end up doing the Romulan ship. And ended up doing an entire video on the man who built it : ua-cam.com/video/Na35jQd3c3M/v-deo.html.
Check it out and let me know what you think!
@@TREK-WORLD That was really interesting. I had no knowledge of Mr. Chang or actual fate of the Bird Of Prey model, only that it had been destroyed.
Thanks for all your great content.
Firstly I'm not going to comment on what the early sketch of the ship's secondary hull looked like.
Secondly, the street view of the finished model, did anybody notice Christine was there too?
You know; in my research for this I ran across many posts and comments around the internet that brought that fact out. I hadn't even made the connection because in my mind I only saw the front end of the car.
Always great to watch your video's. Now have you seen the Channel yet from the guy in England that is building a 38 foot Architecture Enterprise including all the decks in detail?
No I haven't. But I want to! What is the channel name?
@@TREK-WORLD So here is I think his first video about him starting this project.
I was telling him that I think I could 3D print him out a 1/25 scale F class Shuttle Craft.
I don't believe he has a Patreon either, but he has me thinking about doing this with the D7, and or the Romulan warbird, and I could definitely 3D print better Star Trek figures in the 2 scales that he is using.
ua-cam.com/video/kdDXeIpphZA/v-deo.html
Cool. I'll check him out in the morning. Thanks!
@@TREK-WORLD NP, It really has me thinking of making a Warbird, and or D7 in that way.
Great video! Do you have any information about the parts of the Enterprise, like the "neck", that were supposedly painted light blue? I've read there is debate about this and in some photos I see it and in others I don't. It also seems to vary from pilot to production.
Thanks for the kind words! And yes, it was painted with a bluish paint. When they delivered the 11ft model for the first pilot, it was filmed against a black background. They made the decision to film against a bluescreen background beginning with the 2nd pilot. So they "toned down" the blue in the dorsal so that it wouldn't "bleed" into the background. After seeing the finished effects, then they "toned it down" again as there were still some issues with the tone that they had selected. And, by the time the model was used in production, the dorsal had no additional blue hues in it.
@@TREK-WORLD Thank you. Good information!
Whatever happened to the original Ramulan Bird of Prey
When you say "junction box" near the end of this (really excellent) vid, do you mean the box with the various control switches on? Because if so, I'm pretty sure I have a photo of that somewhere
Yes! I have Craig Thompson’s description of it, but no photos. If you have a photo somewhere, I would love a copy. I’ve been trying to track one down for just under a year. A viewer asked me about it back then, and now it’s become a kind of quest for me. Lol.
@@TREK-WORLD Yep, I definitely have a photo of the control box. It's a little blurry (probably cropped from a larger pic) but the details are all there. I have sent it to your official email address
THANK YOU!!!!! I got it in my mail. But I've been buried over and am only now sitting down to respond to comments and such. I will use this in the next part of the Enterprise evolution video.
@@TREK-WORLD no worries, glad I could help
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The model when it was first finished had the decals on both sides because of the fact that is was unlighted it was until Gean had lights add so both sides of the ship was done finish off then they were only going film just the one side they kept changing the model that's why you see the ghost markings on the left side it's because of the upgrade made to the model over the TV show
Correct!
@@TREK-WORLD + easy to figure out great channel and information put out here I've been a fan of the original TV series ever since 1972 watching reruns I was born August 20 1967 at the time they were filming the TV series it will always be my favorite show and the next Generation was great to be a kid when the first star wars move came out as well
But you skipped so much stuff. The most obvious is that they replaced the entire saucer with a slightly larger one with a less bulbous bridge. The second most obvious is they replaced the vents on the ends of the nacelles with globes. And finally the dish was resized to be smaller. These are all clear in your footage.
I thought that the Smithsonian should’ve finished the left side with the new technology because that’s probably what Gene would’ve wanted but whatever. DREXLER and I had a discussion about it and he thought that was stupid. Well there are now LEDs and no CHRISTMAS lights in it so it’s not accurate as it was.
At 32:45, is that rear nacelle ball GREEN?
Kind of...It's hull color, the same as the rest of the nacelle, which is, in Richard Datin's own words, "a pale grey with a hint of green." But...it's a hemisphere, which doesn't catch the light the same way that the tapered cylinder does, so there's quite a bit of fall-off, making the pale grey fade out and the greenish tint appear darker.
Will!!! Thank you so much for chiming in on this! I swear, when I saw Pete's question I had to go take a look and then I saw what he spoke of. I was like... "well... shucks... how did that happen?" Those are the kind of things that drive me nuts. lol.
@@TREK-WORLD You're very welcome, Jim; glad to be of service.
@@TREK-WORLD Oh this is so freaking interesting! Glad my eye could contribute something to your awesome research.
I feel the same way you do.... It's as if the teenage Trekkie in me has reawakened. I am excited and thrilled as I do research for each new video.
The model, as it appears in the Smithsonian, has what appears to be some sort of energy weapon (a phaser emitter?) on the bottom of the lower sensor dome. This isn't visible in the series, but the footage is too low resolution to tell. Is there evidence that this was actually part of the model when it was filmed?
Yup! The emitter has been a hot topic over the years. From the 70s to the early 90s they could find no photographic proof of the emitter. Which is why it had never been put onto the Enterprise when they did the previous restorations done in 1991 and earlier.
However, since then, original B&W photos have surfaced. I'll include more info on this in the next Evolution video.
@@TREK-WORLD Thank you! I would love to hear about it!
3:19 there was no CONSTITUTION CLASS. It was STARSHIP CLASS and the ENTERPRISE was the FIRST BIRD 01 of a 17th design
Correct! I actually avoided the class designation when speaking over that particular slide. I figured that his notes would be confusing since his wording was a much simpler “cruiser design”. However, now I’m curious…. I may have to go back and see if I can pin point the time that they chose the “constitution” designator. I am pretty sure that’s got to be in the Making of Star Trek.
@@TREK-WORLD or that FRANZ JOSEPH book?
@@TREK-WORLD did you ever see the Matt Jefferies interviews? He did the refit while working on LITTLE HOUSE IN THE PRAIRIE. He said Mike Landon always looking at him out of the sides of his eyes. Also note the E’s on OLESON’S MERCANTILE were just like STAR TREK!
Actually, it get weirder than that (based on my research this morning).... Th early fan published copies of the Concordance referred to the Enterprise as "Constitution Class". But when Ballantine published the Concordance in 1976, it was referred to as the "Constellation Class".
However, the first actual use of the "Constitution Class" by Star Trek was in the Next Generation Naked Now episode. However, much like the D7, the origins are lost to time. And Star Trek itself literally waited over a decade before using a name on screen..
I've seen quite a few. I know that his "loan" to Roddenberry for the PH2/TMP designs was tricky. Landon insisted that he stay with the Little House team. But he was allowed to "consult" with the Star Trek team. That's why Landon kept tabs on Matt when he was with Roddenberry during that time.
Thanks!
Thank you so much John! I am so happy that you found the channel and that you've become one of my "regulars". I appreciate you very much.