Excellent video Biff! I am 100% certain this is the only BX 3rd function install video on the internet. Because I scoured for any information I could when I installed the land pride 3rd function on my BX2350. I made a thread on OTT about it, I know that's the only DIY thread, and this video is the perfect bookend. I suspect this video will see a lot of traffic over time. Good job man! This kit looks nice too, it looks identical to the LP kit. Love the rear top link bonus too!
Hey thanks man! Yah I agree I havnt seen any for a Kubota bx, the closest other install video out there is on Paul & Kathy shorts UA-cam channel but it’s really not a how-to video.. he just gets one and installs it and shows you a few things along the way but it’s def not a how-to.. he had the landpride as well. I hope this video gets lots of traffic as I feel it can help many people out there with these machines. Thanks for your support!
Hey Biff, I think Summit owes you some money, their instructions are pretty barebones, hardly understandable to the layman but your video makes it supper easy to do. Thank you so much. I installed mine on a BX2380, and it it's a bit different instal but actually easier than what you describe here. Thank you so much.
Thanks David! Great to hear my video helped shed some light on what you’d be up against doing a job like this. Like you said I belive the job is actually even a bit easier on the newer BX80 series models but it’s really not too difficult on the older models either tho there is a few extra steps. Thanks for showing your appreciation!
After watching video I am to purchase this Summit Third Function Valve for my Kubota BX25D Tractor. Thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into this video.
Thanks John! You won’t be disappointed, I have had thus kit on every since I installed it and have used it LOTS and I have yet to have a single issue with mine, it works flawlessly every single time and I’ve never even had a fitting leak. Thanks for watching and let me know how you like it!
Biff, I just stumbled on this video and adding it to my saved for instruction files. I hope you take this the right way , you should be a teacher. You are the perfect combination of Bob Ross and Bill Nye the Science Guy. Stay healthy and happy, live long and prosper.
Haha thanks Gary! Sorry im just now seeing this comment, Iv never heard that one before but I greatly appreciate it! Always happy to help others. Hope your doing well!
Thanks so much for making this video on 3rd function kit. I have been wanting to get a kit to put on myself on my Bx 2380. The Dealership wants to much money to put one on & for me to do it well let’s just say it was a little intimidating plus I wasn’t sure what brand to purchase. I am definitely going to purchase the same kit & install it myself. Take care!
Sure thing man! That’s exactly why I kade this video.. dealers are charging insane prices to do any type of hydraulic installs it’s crazy.. and with a little bit of help or guidance most handy people can do these jobs easily themselves so I’m glad I was able to save you some money. The Summit kit I used here had been a flawless kit.. I have yet to have a single issue or leak from this install so I know you’ll be very happy with it 👍🏻
Really well explained and edited video! Picked up a used BX24 and been thinking about getting a 3rd function for a plow or snowblower. After watching this, feel like I can tackle this project on my own. Thank you!
Thanks! I’m glad it helped, best of luck with your install! The kit is still on my tractor and still works flawlessly, I’ve never had a single issue or leak with this kit 👍🏻
I just installed a summit 3rd function kit on my l2501. I used this video as a reference. Everything functions perfectly and I saved over $400 getting the summit kit and putting it in myself. Thanks for posting this awesome video.
That’s great to hear Mike! The summit 3rd function kit is a great price and a fantastic kit, I use my grapple all the time on my tractor and have yet to have a single issue with my summit 3rd function.. Iv been very happy with it so I think you will too. It always feels good too when you can do your own work!
I`ve watched the video a couple times since Biff posted it. Its the best tutorial video on YT by far for the BX tractor owners. As always Biffie, spot on 100% perfect brother!
Thanks Larry I really appreciate that man, always happy to hear my videos are helping people, makes all the frustration of making these style videos worth it haha. Hope you have a Happy new year buddy!
Awesome man, glad I could help! How did things work out for you? Hopefully it went smoothly and you’ll be on your way to using more attachments come spring 👍🏻
Awesome Paul I’m glad I could help! I try to go into as much detail as I can in my How-To videos.. sometimes I feel I talk too much but for guys doing it for the first time it seems to really help them. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Thx sooo much for this, i know now what i need to do. Great job and appreciate the thoroughness It takes a real special J.O. , two of them to date, to dislike the only video where a guy was decent enough to go through every step of this and hand hold us through it.
Thanks man I really appreciate it. Glad you found it helpful. Always happy to help, I know there was not another very good install video on the internet which is what made me want to do this install video for People. Glad it worked out, stay safe!
Same kit I bought - can't wait to try it out when I pick-up a grapple. Hardest part of the install (I thought) was connecting the 3/8 hose to the line under the tractor - I actually ended up taking the foot-deck off, which was also kind of a puzzle. Awesome video, thank you!
Awesome Seth! How you liking the kit so far? I couldn’t be happier with the fit and finish with mine. Yah the line under the tractor was def the toughest part of the whole job.. I just eventually shoved the wrench up in there between the metal lines which flexed them enough out of the way to get 2 turns on the nut.. after 2 half turns it was loose enough to take it off with my finger.. I felt installing the new line wasn’t nearly as bad. Thanks for watching!
Biff's Equipment - It’s great, seems very well made and clean install. I added a keyed auxiliary fuse panel earlier this year, so I tapped the power into that. I wish I would have run the wiring down thru the loader boot. Instead I ran it down on the side closest to the bonnet; looks fine but maybe if I’m bored I’ll change it up. I also did the rear remote kit for the BX sometime last year; hydraulic top link is on my Christmas list 😀
Seth Dunn awesome man! My goal was always to have Both a .3rd function and rear remotes as well, I almost pulled the trigger on rear remote kit last year but didn’t.. I still plan to add them and when I do I’ll make a video on it.. did you have to come up with any special fittings to tie in BOTH the rear remotes AND the 3rd function? Cuz they both would use the power beyond would they not?
Biff's Equipment - I’m not exactly sure if they both use the PB. The rear remote kit has its own valve body and mounts slightly behind the PB port. I can send you some pictures of my install...somehow...not sure if you can do that thru UA-cam. I think the most difficult part of the rear remote install is trying to match up the hard line orientation from the instructions; it’s almost comical how bad the instructions are in this regard..
Seth Dunn awesome, hey shoot me an email over yo Mbifaro@gmail.com and too can send all the pics over that way, cuz I really been wanting to see how these rear remotes hook up and where it connects to and as soon as I see a few photos I’ll know exactly what I’ll need to do.. I just could never locate any good pictures online of the hydraulic lines to the rear remotes.. been trying to figure it out for 2 years now no lie
Excellent instructional video! I will be adding 3rd function to my LX2610 at some point and like the idea of using it for a hydraulic top link control. I don't think I have seen anyone else do that, or I didn't notice.
Thanks jimmy! In a lot of cases the 3rd function is actually cheaper as well.. and when you don’t need your top link just simply unplug it and it should stay right where it’s at as the hydraulic fluid will have no where to go so the cylinder on bleed down.. then you can use a front hydraulic implement as intended and can easily switch back and forth between front Implement and rear hydraulic top link 👍🏻 Your tractors install will be very very similar, only thing that will change is where your hydraulic lines are gonna be located for yo power beyond.
@@BiffsEquipment After i made the comment i thought about what the toplink would do when unhooked. If it will stay in place like you say it would definitely be handy. I will eventually get a root/rock clamshell grapple, but won't be using it all the time.
Jimmy Horton that’s great, I’ll definitely let you know if it drifts when unplugged but I don’t see how it could as the hydraulic fluid would have no where to go, so my plan was to just center the top link where I wanted it before unplugging it and then it will stay exactly in that position until I’m ready to use it again.. if it drifts at all it would be when unplugging it tho I doubt that would even happen.. I also thought about if the couplers would be hard to plug back in after since I’m not releaving the pressure but that I already tested and it wasn’t an issue after sitting disconnected a few days as the toplink really doesn’t have many forces working against it like a loader would tho if you had a heavy impliment hanging off the rear that could be different but as long as you made sure to never disconnect it when an impliment was on the back (which I don’t see why you would) then it shouldn’t ever be an issue but time will tell and I’ll keep you posted 👍🏻
Hey thanks Curtis I really appreciate that, it takes a lot of effort to make sure I don’t skip a single step in these type of videos and keeping them as detailed as I can and I’m glad it helped you. Thanks for watching!
**Go to the **7:00** minute mark to skip the un-boxing and jump right to the install ** This kit was made by Summit, and was intended for bx 50, 60, and 70 series tractors.. But I have no reason to doubt it wouldn’t work for the new 80 series as I demonstrated in this video on my 80 series loader.
PS. The link to where you can buy the same exact 3rd function kit from the same seller as I did is listed in the video description. Thanks for watching!
I installed mine on a bx80, summit has one kit specific to the BX80 but you can follow this set of instruction to install it, the main difference is that the power beyond return comes back to the right side panel where the levers are instead of underneath, it is actually easier than on the Bx70.
Nice and informative Biff. This vid gives me the confidence to put a third function kit on and a add a grapple that I have been wanting on my BX for some time . Thanks. Steve
Thanks Steve, I’m really glad it helped you out, sometimes you just need to see it be done once to know what you need to do, I’m the same way, once I see something done I know I can do it but with out seeing it done sometimes it can be a little scary if it’s the first time trying to install something like this. Thanks for watching!
Man thanks for the info, it helped a ton with mine for my L3901 it’s pretty damn close to the same install. Biggest difference is the location of the power beyond block.
Awesome man I'm glad to hear that. Your right it really is a very similar install on nearly every machine specially Kubota.. They all tap to the power beyond and all kits are about the same accept for the fittings and hoses being different sized and lengths. Thanks for watching and glad I could help.
Great video just ordered one direct from Summit for my L3901 and got a 5% discount as a new customer. The only suggestion I have (not my idea - seen on other videos) is for the quick connector, to use the male pin connector for the pressure side and the female for the return . This will always show direction of the flow.
Thanks Stanley, I’m glad I could help. You’ll really like this summit valve it’s a really nice kit. The couplers feel even higher quality than Kubotas fittings and look nicer as well. After this video I bought a 4 pack of male and female couplers from summit and swapped out the hydraulic couplers at the end to a male and a female plus I wanted a few extra fittings for new implements that I knew I’d be getting in the future. Thanks for watching!
Sure thing Wayne, for the most part the procedure will be the same with the exception of the hydraulic lines going to your power beyond depending on where your power beyond is located.. but once you find it all your steps should be about the same. Good luck!
Wayne, there is a B2650 3rd function install DIY on OTT www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/threads/summit-3rd-function-kit-install-on-kubota-b2650.44616/
I can see a problem with the bottom relay getting hit by a boot in cold weather. I would turn them to the left to fix that! Thanks for the video you do a great job.
Nice video documentation of the 3rd function install on your BX. I installed the Landpride version on my BX25 years ago. Got it with the LP grapple so don't recall what I paid for it. It's basically the same kit though I'd say yours is a bit nicer. The loader knob with the buttons looks a better and the fittings look better too. I didn't do a video but did document the install in a TBN thread on the then new LP grapple they came out with for the BX. Only suggestion I would make on your install would be the maybe add some hose protectors for the lines running under the tractor. Looks like they could rub some here and there. Good luck with it. You'll love have the 3rd function once you get a grapple, or even a front snow-blower with hydraulic shoot rotation and angel spout.
Thanks man! That's great to hear. The land pride 3rd function is a very nice kit as well, like you said they are very very similar, I personally think the 3rd function valve itself may be a little better on the land pride only because of the way the wiring installs on the solenoids but I do like the way the switch is made better on the summit vs. the land pride.. little more ergonomic i think. Sounds like you have had great luck with yours so far and I'm glad you made a thread or two to help for others who are interested in these products. As for the lines under the floorboard, i plan to make a few metal clips for the underneath where they will get bolted to the floor to secure the lines from rubbing or chafing. Thanks for watching.
Hey there Brother!! Great step-by-step video. I like the Summit Valve Kit and that hydraulic top link. You use your tractor A LOT and you're gonna find that ground contact implements are amazing when you can control them without getting off of the tractor! Which 3rd function implement are you going to get first?? Snow plow?? Grapple?? I have a great video comparing the MTL to the Everything Attachments grapple on my channel. I use that grapple ALMOST as much as my loader! Nonetheless, whatever you choose to go with, I'm sure your going to love! Again, great video and keep cranking them out. Everyone here really appreciates them!
Thanks buddy! My first hydraulic implement is either going to be a grapple or an auger, prolly a grapple first tho as I see myself using it much more. I also have many plans in my head to build some really great hydraulic from attachments for this machine, I'm waiting on a new welder that I'm gonna be ordering soon and then I'm going to start fabbing things up this winter. That's great to hear that you did a grapple comparison! I'll def be sure to check it out this week and leave a comment! Thanks as always! Also your right, that top link is gonna be great when I get some rear implements i can actually use, and like you said once I start using them on jobs ill prolly wonder how i went this long with out any! haha.
Tbanks buddy! The valve has been on my tractor all these years and I’ve yet to have a SINGLE issue with it! Best 3rd function for the price for sure! Be sure to watch my most recent videos, I think you’ll enjoy!
Sure thing! And yes I disconnected the loader I think to install the first part of the install on the tractor itself I think.. just to give myself more room cuz my shed was so small.. then I installed the loader I think to finish installing the hydraulics on the loader. I no longer use this shed for my tractor as I just finished building a nice big pole barn so from now on all my videos will be better and more spacious for us to do more work and bigger jobs. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for making this video. I was hesitant about doing this job until I seen your video and now feel confident enough that I can do this. Love your channel!
Awesome! Glad to hear it helped, that’s why I make videos like these and to hopefully save people a lot of money by helping them to do the work themselves. Stay safe!
That is a great video! Probably the best how to video I've ever seen! I'm hoping that kit will also work on a bx2230 with a LA211 loader. It looks very similar.
Thanks a ton buddy, I assume it’s gonna work just fine.. the power beyond should be in the same location with that tractor tho some of the lines may be different or the fittings may be differnt but the lengths of the hoses should work for you and you should be able to figure out a mount for the front couplers if the factory one doesn’t work.. worst case you’ll have to run to Napa a few times for a few fittings/adaptors to make it all work and possibly have to make up a new longer or shorter hose but I have a feeling you’ll be alright. Let me know how you make out and thanks for your comment!
@@BiffsEquipment thanks for the info. A quick look at mine & I noticed the lines to the FEL come off the left side of the tractor. I think that's the power beyond line that you tapped into on yours which was on the right side if your tractor. But I'll have to remove my MMM & get a better look at things. And that universal kit may be the better option for me. Thank you again! Appreciate your help
@@lenartjr yah you may be right.. hard to believe they woulda changed the complete location of the power beyond but they may have cuz the loader valve on their old BX were part of the loader and not the tractor back in those days .. lmk how you make out buddy
Damn nice looking job 👍🏼.another good one . I have a BX23S And I’ve been thinking about that for the last year or two. To be a grapple is the only real good way to deal with moving brush and limbs. Thanks again
Thanks Chris! Iv been very happy with this Summit 3rd function kit.. I use it with my grapple almost weekly and have not had a single issue with this kit or a single leak.. Its one of the best 3rd functions you can buy and IMO its one of the cheapest too and just about $500 you cant beat it. I agree a grapple is the best tool by far for moving brush and logs.. I just limbed every tree on my property the other day, made a pile of brush near every tree that I did then used my tractor and grapple to grab each pile one at a time and threw them on my burn pit.. Cleaning up the brush took me 10 min vs the hours it woulda taken me to move it all by hand.. Its def a life saver!
Great instructional video. Really appreciate the detail. I am new to Kubota but love the 2021 Bx23s I just purchased. I purchased a grapple bucket delivering in 2 weeks and will be installing this same 3rd function valve kit for that. When installed, hopefully correct, the grapple will utilize the two hydraulic connections from the new valve, correct? Thanks again for the great instruction. Gary
Hey Gary! Just responded to your email actually this morning, yep once you get your grapple then grapple will utilize the connections at the front of the loader which come back and get connected to the 3rd function valve itself.. basically the lines/couplers are the loader are just an extension off the main valve so that you can attach your implement hydraulics at the loader instead of directly to the valve up by the cab. You shouldn’t have any issues but if you do just let me know. PS. Take a read through the comments section of this video, there’s quite a few people who talk about how they installed it on their bx23s with out issue and they may be able to give you some useful information if you read through some of them. Take care and good luck!
My summit third member addition didn't last a year , I am hard on the little kubota , tree guy , trees are hard on everything especially trucks . I bought a landpride one , you wanta see some bad instructions try landprides ..glad I put on the summit first really , even though it failed .
Thanks for sharing! Sorry to hear I failed, I have never had a single issue with my summit kit, I wonder if you just got a bad kit or something. Anyways I’m glad your back uo and running!
Deffinelty do Phill you’ll love it! If you find one made by summit you shouldn’t have to pay much more than $500 which in my option isn’t a bad price at all for the added implements you can use with it.
The only thing that sucks is that I have to get a universal kit and figure things out for myself. I'll have to look for a video on here to see if anyone has put one on their gc.
@@banditweasil ill be attempting the install on my GC1705 as soon as it comes in. I just bought this kit and just plan on making adjustments as i run it.
It should still work but I’m not 100% certain as I do not own a Curtis cab. You may wanna call the manufacture and see what they say to be sure before buying it but either way I know you COULD make it work.. but not sure if or how much work it would take you to make it work. The biggest thing would be if they have the holes in the cab for the hydraulic hoses to go through for the couplers out on the end of your loader, the second thing would be if the 3rd function valve itself will mount to the floor there with the cab in the way.. you may have ri make a custom bracket or mount the valve in a slightly different location If the cab interferes with the stock bracket. Best of luck!
So I have a Summit front third function installed. I want to add a rear option such as this on a bx23s. Do you know how this fits with a backhoe and the swivel seat? I'm also looking at the Summit electric unit but don't like how exposed everything is.
Could you have put the mounting block bracket on reversed so the hoses did not have to have the bends in them and rub against the floor board edges? Does it interfere with removing the loader?
Thanks for watching, I’m sure you could but there is a few reasons I think they want it mounted this way, one is for what you suggested being that it will likely interfere with you removing your loader, I’m sure you could work around it but it would make things much tighter there.. for 2 there is LED indicator lights on the valve so if they are facing away you won’t be able to see them which really isn’t a big deal but it’s something to think about.. my hoses do touch the floorboard but they do not rub or chafe. They are zip tied securely and as long as you mounted it tight you won’t have any issues with chafing hoses or scuffing your floorboard. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment I have to side with Bri on this one, the strain on those hydraulic hoses seems excessive. The valve assembly would still face to the operator providing visibility to the LEDs. The valve assembly would be unbolted from the bracket, the bracket would be rotated 180 degrees and the valve assemble would then be bolted to the bracket again. This would shift everything forward by about an inch reducing the strain on the hoses. It doesn't look like it would adversely impact the access to the loader release mechanism. If this isn't workable, I would be inclined to put a couple of 90 degree fittings on each line to correct for the offset.
Hi Biff, Thanks for the clear explanation! Today I began installing that same kit on my BX25D. The manual isn't bad, but the sequence in your video is better. For example, I tried mounting the valve assembly, then connecting the P and T hoses to it, but the hoses are so stiff that it was impossible, so I re-did it your way. I have a question: How on earth did you get the new T hose to bend around to connect to the old steel one under the tractor near the fuel pump? Every way I try to route it, something's in the way. The plate protecting the HST fan is a particular offender. I might just remove it, as I have a removable aftermarket skid plate anyway. And to disconnect the steel line in that cramped spot, I ground down a wrench to fit. The new hose fitting is bigger, so it's even more cramped a fit. I guess I'll grind another wrench for that. Sometimes working on this tractor is just as bad as working on the engine in my boat, where you need to be double-jointed and work upside down in tiny spaces. I would appreciate knowing how you connected that hose. Thanks!
Hey Carl thanks for your comment I’m glad my video has helped you thus far on your install! The summit 3rd function kit is a great kit, by far one of the best for the money and my kit has been holding up fantastic I use it weekly with zero issues since this video not even a single leak. As for the hard steel lines it is a sun of s gun to remove that short steel line.. I didn’t grind my wrenches tho, I basically just slammed the wrench between the lines and pushed really hard till the other lines bowed out of the way giving me enough room to turn the wrench.. all of the lines just sort of bowed out of the way as I loosened and tightened that rubber line but none of them got “bent” Permanently.. you can be pretty rough with those steel lines they are pretty durable as long as you don’t go too crazy and they will come back to their normal position once your wrench is removed.. that’s how I did it tho just brute force pretty much as it is a very difficult spot. As for the hose I think I explain in my video which hose I used for the one to connect to the steel line and I think I even showed it at the end how I came under the floor into the wheel well then looped it back around the frame of the tractor (I think) to make the connection to the hard steel line. You’ll have to watch the video again and see if maybe you missed the part where I go back over each hose.. I wish I could help you more but it’s been so long since I did this install that I can’t remember exactly how I bent the hose and what not .. if you wanna email me at mbifaro@gmail.com I may be able to send you some pics tho when I get time. Hope this helps, best of luck!
@@BiffsEquipment Thanks for your response! In the end after much sweat and cursing, I did get it all put together. After that, it was all pretty simple. I use the 3rd function to run an Add a Grapple that I bolted to the original pin-mounted bucket. It works great, much to my surprise, because I have zero previous experience in hydraulics . I really relied on your video to give me the confidence to tackle the installation.
@@carlapplebaum3014 awesome man! Those add a grapples are nice I see tractor time with Tim use his from time to time they really seem to work great for what they are. I made this video for the first timer doing this type of job so it makes me happy to know that my video is helping people. Stay safe out there! 👍🏻
I changed my hoses up and ran them on the inside of the frame rails. That way they are protected by my skid plate. Had to add a 90 fitting on the one end to make it work. I never liked the hoses sticking out under the floor board.
Yah I tried to do this but the hoses were not long enough, I only saw one way of doing it and that was running them along my floor board.. I highly doubt it would ever be an issue tho.
BotaArt yah I wish the house was long enough.. to be honest the short hose was just about 6” too short and the long hose was like 8” too long in my option.. tho in the kit this is how they want you to connect it from what I saw so I didn’t think anything of it but if I coulda ran it inside the frame I def woulda. Thanks for watching man!
I had the same reaction with the hoses. I took the front line off and with a tubing bender bent it to exit the front with the existing FEL lines. Bought a duplicate line as the rear half alone with a male to male adaptor and shaped it to exit with existing lines. Then had 2 14" hoses made to tie end. I have pics but don't know how to share them.
Wow, excellent video. I just got a landpride grapple and 3rd function kit. After watching your video I feel confident to do the install. Originally I watched Paul & Kathy Short's vidoe and it was not as informative as yours but it did prompt a question regarding the power beyond. In your video you remove the bolt on the left side and on the other video the bolt was removed on the right side for the power beyond, what is the difference?
Thanks Paul! Really glad i was able to help clarify things for you and others doing the install themselves, that exactly why I wanted to make this video as there really wasn't any good videos out there aside from Paul shorts which like you said was missing a lot of information. As for the bolt you are referring to if I'm thinking of the right one it shouldn't matter, I would just do it the way I showed in this video though just to be sure you don't have any issues. As for the land pride 3rd function congrats! That's a really nice 3rd function man, i actually like the landpride valve better than my summit one but like my summit controller a bit better than landprides but that's just a personal preference type of thing.. Both are really awesome kits no doubt. Let me know how your install goes!
@@BiffsEquipment Thanks for replying. I agree the Landpride controller is not as nice as the Summits. Not sure why I said bolt in my earlier comment, I can understand why you had to guess a little to what I was referring to. It is behind the right rear wheel where you removed the nut from the line on the left hand side of the manifold block of the power beyond that I was referring to. The Landpride instructions say to connect the new line to the left side as you did. I was just wondering if connecting on the right side makes a difference since I had seen Paul Short connect on the right side. I did drop him a comment but he hasn't replied. I have been watching your other videos and they are so well done that I am s subscriber now and look forward to your new content. Your Artillian grapple and forks are awesome. I like them a lot better than the Landpride grapple I just got. Take care, stay safe!
Great video! What year is your 70 series BX? I'm looking to put a front loader on a 2015 BX2670 and dealer is telling me only the LA243A model will fit (no universal skid steer like on your LA344).
Thankyou! I own a 2013 BX2370 with an LA340/LA344 loader.. show your dealer my videos because I promise it will 100% fit. Let them know they need to remove the hydraulic manifold off the new loader and install 4 standard pioneer couplers onto the loader hoses itself and once they do that the loader arms will bolt right on and the loader will slide right into place with zero interference.. my dealer told me the same thing 3 years ago till I proved them wrong.. they weren’t gonna order the loader for me until I proved to them it would work and once they finally believed me they ordered it and were impressed how perfect it fit.. since then my dealer has done 10 other older BX tractors and they have thanked me for showing them it works.
Now that you've had some time with the third function kit, how do you like it? I'm thinking about a summit for my l2501. Should I have any reservations about buying a summit instead of a land pride? Thanks for the detailed video. It's been a great help!
Thanks for watching, the summit 3rd function kit has been fantastic.. I have yet to have a single issue with the entire kit or fittings.. the fittings are very high quality as well.. I will be using it a bunch in the upcoming month with my new artillian grapple so stay tuned for that if you wanna see it in action but as far as I’m concerned it’s just as every bit good as the land pride kit.. I now have seen multiple UA-camrs, along with guys on forums and Facebook groups using this kit since I did mine with no issues and all have been happy with them as far as I can tell.. you wouldn’t think summit as being a company for tractors but they actually make quite a bit of hydraulic parts and kits for tractors and all of them do very well.. they also make a hydraulic multiplier valve kit for rear remotes that lots of people buy with out issue and it’s they have grown quite popular over the years for a Premium tractor hydraulic parts supplier. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment That helps a ton! Thank you. I'm going with the summit kit. Summit should send you some free stuff. I'm definitely buying their stuff based on your video and experience with the product.
@@mikekinneymaineguide8020 thanks buddy, I’m not sure they even know I made videos on their products but would be great if they did! I’m glad I was able to help, let me know how you make out!
Thanks Big Dog, Not yet, I actually ordered them and they were the wrong ones so I have sent them back and keep forgetting to re-order them, thanks for the reminder tho!
Sure thing. So far I have used it around my house and I also used it on a few jobs, its holding up extremely well and i have zero complaints with this kit... Its a very solid kit, one of the best IMO.
What are the specs on the hydraulic top link? I'd like to get one for my BX as well. The bolt where you put the zip tie at 25:51 will likely cut your hydraulic line over time.
This is a very nice video. I’m hoping you can explain to me this power beyond. I have read the definition of what it is and I still do not understand. All the hydraulics flow through a central point - - correct? The power beyond is a separate Central point through which fluid flows usually to something like the front loader - - correct? I saw were you pulled the hard tube from the power beyond that’s not the issue. Don’t all tractors have a power beyond ? Or do all of the tractors have all hydraulics going to just the one central location? I don’t know what do you call it a well or a pump or whatever you call that central location. I ask because I heard Tim from TTWT say one time that he had a power beyond added to his LX3310. I guess I don’t understand why you need this power beyond second central location/well To add your third function. I am unsure if I’m being clear or what I’m asking.
The power beyond is your main hydraulic flow coming from the pump I believe and it’s where most hydraulic implements and attachments get their hydraulic fluid/flow from. I’d say you are correct in what your thinking. Thanks for watching and sorry I only just saw your comment!
I typically wipe it off with a rag or a rag with a little WD-40 on it. WD-40 is very good for getting rid of grease on painted surfaces and it will not hurt the paint. Also when I grease my tractor I am VERY careful not to over grease.. just 2-3 full pumps per fitting is usually plenty, once I start to hear the air pop out from the joint I’m greasing that’s an indicator it’s pretty much full is grease. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I noticed that your machine is a BX2370 and you have a LA344 loader which was designed for the newer 80 series. I have the opportunity to buy a LA344 and I was wondering if you had any experience or might know if that loader will fit my BX1860. I’ve scoured the internet and Facebook groups without an answer. I know that I’ll have to change the couplers for the hydraulics, but I was curious to know if the loader brackets would fit mine with the 1860 having a shorter frame. If you have any insight I’d be glad to hear from you! Thanks in advance!
Thanks man I appreciate it. As for the newer LA340/LA344 loader from a bx80.. yes it will fit your 1860 and to the best of my knowledge the frame is exactly identical.. the only thing Kubota changed with the 18hp models from the 23-26hp models is the tire sizes and the seats.. the rest of the machine minus HP and PTO HP is virtually identical.. Also the BX1880 uses the same loader as the loader I have on my bx2370.. so again there’s no reason it won’t fit your BX1860. You are correct about the couplers.. the only thing you’d need to do is remove the new hydraulic “quick manifold” and install your 4 regular Kubota female pioneer couplers to the ends of the 4 loader hoses.. the hose lengths also do not need to be changed as I found out when I did mine. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment I appreciate it! Like is mentioned in other comments and you even said, the dealer tells you that it won’t work, when clearly it does! I worked for a CaseIH dealer for a number of years and I know that sometimes it’s just trial and error and a little fab work to see if something will work. Thanks for you help! Great videos. Definitely a new subscriber!
Hey Biff, how does it work when both the top link and grapple are attached? What prevents the flow to the top link when you want to operate the grapple?
It will not, only the top link OR the front attachment can be used at a given time.. so I simply have the 2 lines for the grapple disconnected at the 3rd function in order to plug in my rear top link.. this is no issue for most people tho as typically you wouldn’t need to operate both a hydraulic front attachment AND a hydraulic top link at the same time.. typically you’d either be using a front attachment or a rear attachment and not both, but if you ever did wanna keep both plugged in with this setup then you could simply add a diverted valve and the top of the 3rd function which would allow you to flip a switch to change which function you wanted the 3rd function to operate.. so you could choose to make the 3rd function work just the rear or just the front with this diverter valve. Hope this helps! Last option of course would be adding rear remotes with your 3rd function.
Hi Mike, yes I ran the hoses from the hydraulic top link all the way up to my new 3rd function valve so that I could sue my 3rd function valve to operate my rear hydraulic top link since I didn't have anything else to use my 3rd function with at the time such as a grapple.. In my latest video I just uploaded I installed a rear hydraulic remote kit on my tractor which allowed me to plug the hydraulic top link into that instead so I could keep my 3rd function on my loader clear for my grapple. Check out that video when you can I think it would help you a lot.. At the end of the video is where I install and talk about the hydraulic top link. LINK: ua-cam.com/video/tK2bQMFdlkE/v-deo.html
Hey Wayne, you don’t wanna use pipe dope or Teflon when assembling anything for hydraulics. I use a special hydraulic thread paste that’s made with out Teflon that’s made specifically for hydraulic fittings. The stuff I use is made by loctite I think. You can find stuff like it at your local Napa.
Hey Brian, no I never had any issues with air in my attachments or just never noticed it.. typically if you do get air in them it will quickly work it out after the first time you use it and you usually won’t notice it anyways.
Hey Carlos I am unsure if it will fit but I'm positive with some Tweeks you could make it work.. Only things you would have to change is the possibly the hydraulic hose lengths, and the fittings and bracket.. the rest of the kit is identical for any other sub compact tractor. As for the part number its in a link in the video description. Thanks for watching!
Yep that’s what a 3rd function is for.. are you asking if the valve itself can be mounted to the loader instead of the tractor? If so I’m sure you could do it but you’d have to make your own custom brackets and would need to custom make a few hoses for your custom Length as most kits are designed for the machine they fit and already have pre mounted spots where they go
Hey man good video. Looking at getting summit 3rd for my kubota l4701. Reviews look good on summit. Can’t figure out why it’s cheaper than other brands. Bout made my mind up I’m gonna get the summit brand. Still liking yours. Have you used it with a grapple yet ?
I havnt used it for a grapple but if you check out my tree sheer video I have used it for a custom tree sheer I built, I have also used it for a rear hydraulic top link.. the 3rd function has worked flawlessly and I have had zero issues with it since install. It’s a very very good kit for the money and they use most of the same exact parts as the WR Long kit which is a highly recommended kit by many tractor company’s. Thanks for watching let me know when you get it and how it works out for you!
So how did you get your screen cover back on with how the wires are running from the solenoids? I started installing this kit and I have my wires through the firewall but they either block the screen or plastic sides when I go to put them back on…. Also, I’m 99% certain A and B were stamped wrong on my valve assembly.
Sorry I’m just seeing this message Mike, I ended up just squeezing the wires on the side of the screen, the screen still slides over the wires just fine tho it makes the screen stick out a small amount. Did you ever get it all figured out?
Hey man just curious if you think your bx has enough reach to load a Dually pick up bed? I’m looking at getting into some dirt work and can get a old Chevy gtm400 Dually for nothing and was considering installing a dump kit on it…
I would think it would have just enough reach but you wouldn’t be able to stack material Very high as you’d be close to the height limit on the bx but I would think you’d be ok for the most part. Measure the side of the bed and then measure the cutting edge with the boom at max height and the bucket fully curled and that will give you a good baseline
I deffinelty got the .3rds function for a grapple and auger as well as some joke made hydraulic front attachments I plan on building this winter but since I bought it I felt the hydraulic top link was a good use for it for the time being until I have more hydraulic attachments I can use. Rest assured I’ll have some sweet hydraulic stuff in the coming year! lol
It doesn't specify that but I believe it will work just fine, there is no reason why it shouldn't because the loader is the same as mine and the distance to the hydraulics are the same as well.. Only thing different is the loader valve location which they give you plenty of wire with the new joystick/switch. Hope this helps lmk what you ended up going with!
Hey Biff, at 20:48, I noticed that you have a hose connecting your delivery pressure from around the other side of the tractor. Mine is a steel line. Did you have to replace that line at one time? When you go to put your rear hydraulics on, you will get that line new. Jason
No that hose is original and every Kubota bx with out a backhoe I ever saw had a soft hydraulic hose here .. I’m thinking yours is steel cuz you may have a backhoe for yours? I know this is where the backhoe gets its hydraulic fluid from the power beyond so maybe that’s why yours is steel I’m not sure. What year is your tractor? If it’s newer than mine that could also be why
@@HuserHelpers thats a good possibility, possibly the metal line was getting chaffed from vibration? I know my soft like looks like brand new still. Not really sure, this is the first I ever heard of a metal line being there. Did you buy your tractor used?
Here is the link and thanks for the reminder! Ill be putting this link in the video description. This is the exact seller I got mine from too. LINK: www.ebay.com/itm/Third-Function-Valve-Kit-Kubota-BX1860-BX1870-BX2360-BX2370-BX2660-BX2670/274054901376?hash=item3fcef1ee80:g:Ii8AAOSwH51dp1Rb
Hey Doug you are correct, they are coil connectors, when the coil is energized it pulls and opens the valve. I called them relay by mistake at the time. 👍🏻
Excellent video Biff! I am 100% certain this is the only BX 3rd function install video on the internet. Because I scoured for any information I could when I installed the land pride 3rd function on my BX2350. I made a thread on OTT about it, I know that's the only DIY thread, and this video is the perfect bookend. I suspect this video will see a lot of traffic over time. Good job man! This kit looks nice too, it looks identical to the LP kit. Love the rear top link bonus too!
Hey thanks man! Yah I agree I havnt seen any for a Kubota bx, the closest other install video out there is on Paul & Kathy shorts UA-cam channel but it’s really not a how-to video.. he just gets one and installs it and shows you a few things along the way but it’s def not a how-to.. he had the landpride as well. I hope this video gets lots of traffic as I feel it can help many people out there with these machines. Thanks for your support!
PS. I Vaguely think I remember seeing your instal post on OTT and it was a good one! Always a great thing when you can help others.
Hey Biff, I think Summit owes you some money, their instructions are pretty barebones, hardly understandable to the layman but your video makes it supper easy to do. Thank you so much. I installed mine on a BX2380, and it it's a bit different instal but actually easier than what you describe here. Thank you so much.
Thanks David! Great to hear my video helped shed some light on what you’d be up against doing a job like this. Like you said I belive the job is actually even a bit easier on the newer BX80 series models but it’s really not too difficult on the older models either tho there is a few extra steps. Thanks for showing your appreciation!
After watching video I am to purchase this Summit Third Function Valve for my Kubota BX25D Tractor. Thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into this video.
Thanks John! You won’t be disappointed, I have had thus kit on every since I installed it and have used it LOTS and I have yet to have a single issue with mine, it works flawlessly every single time and I’ve never even had a fitting leak. Thanks for watching and let me know how you like it!
Biff, I just stumbled on this video and adding it to my saved for instruction files. I hope you take this the right way , you should be a teacher. You are the perfect combination of Bob Ross and Bill Nye the Science Guy. Stay healthy and happy, live long and prosper.
Haha thanks Gary! Sorry im just now seeing this comment, Iv never heard that one before but I greatly appreciate it! Always happy to help others. Hope your doing well!
Looks like a stick is ready to take out your HST Fan under there ? . I got a BXpanded under armor plate just for that .
Thanks so much for making this video on 3rd function kit. I have been wanting to get a kit to put on myself on my Bx 2380. The Dealership wants to much money to put one on & for me to do it well let’s just say it was a little intimidating plus I wasn’t sure what brand to purchase. I am definitely going to purchase the same kit & install it myself. Take care!
Sure thing man! That’s exactly why I kade this video.. dealers are charging insane prices to do any type of hydraulic installs it’s crazy.. and with a little bit of help or guidance most handy people can do these jobs easily themselves so I’m glad I was able to save you some money. The Summit kit I used here had been a flawless kit.. I have yet to have a single issue or leak from this install so I know you’ll be very happy with it 👍🏻
Really well explained and edited video!
Picked up a used BX24 and been thinking about getting a 3rd function for a plow or snowblower. After watching this, feel like I can tackle this project on my own.
Thank you!
Very well done. Lots of info so that even I can attempt to do this. Take care and stay safe. From Petawawa, Ontario, Canada.
Thanks! I’m glad it helped, best of luck with your install! The kit is still on my tractor and still works flawlessly, I’ve never had a single issue or leak with this kit 👍🏻
I just installed a summit 3rd function kit on my l2501. I used this video as a reference. Everything functions perfectly and I saved over $400 getting the summit kit and putting it in myself. Thanks for posting this awesome video.
That’s great to hear Mike! The summit 3rd function kit is a great price and a fantastic kit, I use my grapple all the time on my tractor and have yet to have a single issue with my summit 3rd function.. Iv been very happy with it so I think you will too. It always feels good too when you can do your own work!
One of the best video presentations I have seen. Keep them coming!
Thanks Carl I really appreciate that buddy! I hope to do many more videos just like it in my new pole barn once it’s finished! Stay tuned!
I`ve watched the video a couple times since Biff posted it. Its the best tutorial video on YT by far for the BX tractor owners.
As always Biffie, spot on 100% perfect brother!
Thanks Larry I really appreciate that man, always happy to hear my videos are helping people, makes all the frustration of making these style videos worth it haha. Hope you have a Happy new year buddy!
I ordered this kit because of your video and feel confident in installing myself as well. Great job, sir.
Awesome man, glad I could help! How did things work out for you? Hopefully it went smoothly and you’ll be on your way to using more attachments come spring 👍🏻
Did the installation today… was waiting on the grapple to ship. All went as planned only because of your video! Thanks again.
Thanks - the power beyond loop insert was confusing me. You cleared that right up.
Awesome Paul I’m glad I could help! I try to go into as much detail as I can in my How-To videos.. sometimes I feel I talk too much but for guys doing it for the first time it seems to really help them. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Thx sooo much for this, i know now what i need to do. Great job and appreciate the thoroughness
It takes a real special J.O. , two of them to date, to dislike the only video where a guy was decent enough to go through every step of this and hand hold us through it.
Thanks man I really appreciate it. Glad you found it helpful. Always happy to help, I know there was not another very good install video on the internet which is what made me want to do this install video for People. Glad it worked out, stay safe!
Same kit I bought - can't wait to try it out when I pick-up a grapple. Hardest part of the install (I thought) was connecting the 3/8 hose to the line under the tractor - I actually ended up taking the foot-deck off, which was also kind of a puzzle.
Awesome video, thank you!
Awesome Seth! How you liking the kit so far? I couldn’t be happier with the fit and finish with mine. Yah the line under the tractor was def the toughest part of the whole job.. I just eventually shoved the wrench up in there between the metal lines which flexed them enough out of the way to get 2 turns on the nut.. after 2 half turns it was loose enough to take it off with my finger.. I felt installing the new line wasn’t nearly as bad. Thanks for watching!
Biff's Equipment - It’s great, seems very well made and clean install. I added a keyed auxiliary fuse panel earlier this year, so I tapped the power into that. I wish I would have run the wiring down thru the loader boot. Instead I ran it down on the side closest to the bonnet; looks fine but maybe if I’m bored I’ll change it up. I also did the rear remote kit for the BX sometime last year; hydraulic top link is on my Christmas list 😀
Seth Dunn awesome man! My goal was always to have Both a .3rd function and rear remotes as well, I almost pulled the trigger on rear remote kit last year but didn’t.. I still plan to add them and when I do I’ll make a video on it.. did you have to come up with any special fittings to tie in BOTH the rear remotes AND the 3rd function? Cuz they both would use the power beyond would they not?
Biff's Equipment - I’m not exactly sure if they both use the PB. The rear remote kit has its own valve body and mounts slightly behind the PB port. I can send you some pictures of my install...somehow...not sure if you can do that thru UA-cam. I think the most difficult part of the rear remote install is trying to match up the hard line orientation from the instructions; it’s almost comical how bad the instructions are in this regard..
Seth Dunn awesome, hey shoot me an email over yo Mbifaro@gmail.com and too can send all the pics over that way, cuz I really been wanting to see how these rear remotes hook up and where it connects to and as soon as I see a few photos I’ll know exactly what I’ll need to do.. I just could never locate any good pictures online of the hydraulic lines to the rear remotes.. been trying to figure it out for 2 years now no lie
Excellent instructional video! I will be adding 3rd function to my LX2610 at some point and like the idea of using it for a hydraulic top link control. I don't think I have seen anyone else do that, or I didn't notice.
Thanks jimmy! In a lot of cases the 3rd function is actually cheaper as well.. and when you don’t need your top link just simply unplug it and it should stay right where it’s at as the hydraulic fluid will have no where to go so the cylinder on bleed down.. then you can use a front hydraulic implement as intended and can easily switch back and forth between front Implement and rear hydraulic top link 👍🏻
Your tractors install will be very very similar, only thing that will change is where your hydraulic lines are gonna be located for yo power beyond.
@@BiffsEquipment After i made the comment i thought about what the toplink would do when unhooked. If it will stay in place like you say it would definitely be handy. I will eventually get a root/rock clamshell grapple, but won't be using it all the time.
Jimmy Horton that’s great, I’ll definitely let you know if it drifts when unplugged but I don’t see how it could as the hydraulic fluid would have no where to go, so my plan was to just center the top link where I wanted it before unplugging it and then it will stay exactly in that position until I’m ready to use it again.. if it drifts at all it would be when unplugging it tho I doubt that would even happen.. I also thought about if the couplers would be hard to plug back in after since I’m not releaving the pressure but that I already tested and it wasn’t an issue after sitting disconnected a few days as the toplink really doesn’t have many forces working against it like a loader would tho if you had a heavy impliment hanging off the rear that could be different but as long as you made sure to never disconnect it when an impliment was on the back (which I don’t see why you would) then it shouldn’t ever be an issue but time will tell and I’ll keep you posted 👍🏻
Best video out. Perfectly detailed every step. Good job partner...Just saved me alot of money..👍
Hey thanks Curtis I really appreciate that, it takes a lot of effort to make sure I don’t skip a single step in these type of videos and keeping them as detailed as I can and I’m glad it helped you. Thanks for watching!
**Go to the **7:00** minute mark to skip the un-boxing and jump right to the install **
This kit was made by Summit, and was intended for bx 50, 60, and 70 series tractors.. But I have no reason to doubt it wouldn’t work for the new 80 series as I demonstrated in this video on my 80 series loader.
PS. The link to where you can buy the same exact 3rd function kit from the same seller as I did is listed in the video description. Thanks for watching!
I installed mine on a bx80, summit has one kit specific to the BX80 but you can follow this set of instruction to install it, the main difference is that the power beyond return comes back to the right side panel where the levers are instead of underneath, it is actually easier than on the Bx70.
@@AmericansByChoice awesome, Thanks for giving us this information, that’s good to know!
Nice and informative Biff. This vid gives me the confidence to put a third function kit on and a add a grapple that I have been wanting on my BX for some time . Thanks. Steve
Thanks Steve, I’m really glad it helped you out, sometimes you just need to see it be done once to know what you need to do, I’m the same way, once I see something done I know I can do it but with out seeing it done sometimes it can be a little scary if it’s the first time trying to install something like this. Thanks for watching!
Outstanding install instructions! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Don! I try to make my How-To videos as informative as possible so that I can help people with their own installs. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Man thanks for the info, it helped a ton with mine for my L3901 it’s pretty damn close to the same install. Biggest difference is the location of the power beyond block.
Awesome man I'm glad to hear that. Your right it really is a very similar install on nearly every machine specially Kubota.. They all tap to the power beyond and all kits are about the same accept for the fittings and hoses being different sized and lengths. Thanks for watching and glad I could help.
Great video just ordered one direct from Summit for my L3901 and got a 5% discount as a new customer. The only suggestion I have (not my idea - seen on other videos) is for the quick connector, to use the male pin connector for the pressure side and the female for the return . This will always show direction of the flow.
Thanks Stanley, I’m glad I could help. You’ll really like this summit valve it’s a really nice kit. The couplers feel even higher quality than Kubotas fittings and look nicer as well. After this video I bought a 4 pack of male and female couplers from summit and swapped out the hydraulic couplers at the end to a male and a female plus I wanted a few extra fittings for new implements that I knew I’d be getting in the future. Thanks for watching!
Great job for all the hookups very educational, now I need a video to put a third function on my B2601. Thank you. Wayne
Sure thing Wayne, for the most part the procedure will be the same with the exception of the hydraulic lines going to your power beyond depending on where your power beyond is located.. but once you find it all your steps should be about the same. Good luck!
Wayne, there is a B2650 3rd function install DIY on OTT www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/threads/summit-3rd-function-kit-install-on-kubota-b2650.44616/
I can see a problem with the bottom relay getting hit by a boot in cold weather. I would turn them to the left to fix that! Thanks for the video you do a great job.
Thanks Wayne, yah I agree, it can be quite close to your foot otherwise. Hope the video helps!
Nice video documentation of the 3rd function install on your BX. I installed the Landpride version on my BX25 years ago. Got it with the LP grapple so don't recall what I paid for it. It's basically the same kit though I'd say yours is a bit nicer. The loader knob with the buttons looks a better and the fittings look better too. I didn't do a video but did document the install in a TBN thread on the then new LP grapple they came out with for the BX. Only suggestion I would make on your install would be the maybe add some hose protectors for the lines running under the tractor. Looks like they could rub some here and there. Good luck with it. You'll love have the 3rd function once you get a grapple, or even a front snow-blower with hydraulic shoot rotation and angel spout.
Thanks man! That's great to hear. The land pride 3rd function is a very nice kit as well, like you said they are very very similar, I personally think the 3rd function valve itself may be a little better on the land pride only because of the way the wiring installs on the solenoids but I do like the way the switch is made better on the summit vs. the land pride.. little more ergonomic i think. Sounds like you have had great luck with yours so far and I'm glad you made a thread or two to help for others who are interested in these products. As for the lines under the floorboard, i plan to make a few metal clips for the underneath where they will get bolted to the floor to secure the lines from rubbing or chafing. Thanks for watching.
Hey there Brother!! Great step-by-step video. I like the Summit Valve Kit and that hydraulic top link. You use your tractor A LOT and you're gonna find that ground contact implements are amazing when you can control them without getting off of the tractor! Which 3rd function implement are you going to get first?? Snow plow?? Grapple?? I have a great video comparing the MTL to the Everything Attachments grapple on my channel. I use that grapple ALMOST as much as my loader! Nonetheless, whatever you choose to go with, I'm sure your going to love! Again, great video and keep cranking them out. Everyone here really appreciates them!
Thanks buddy! My first hydraulic implement is either going to be a grapple or an auger, prolly a grapple first tho as I see myself using it much more. I also have many plans in my head to build some really great hydraulic from attachments for this machine, I'm waiting on a new welder that I'm gonna be ordering soon and then I'm going to start fabbing things up this winter. That's great to hear that you did a grapple comparison! I'll def be sure to check it out this week and leave a comment! Thanks as always! Also your right, that top link is gonna be great when I get some rear implements i can actually use, and like you said once I start using them on jobs ill prolly wonder how i went this long with out any! haha.
@@BiffsEquipment IMPLEMENTS ARE ADDICTIVE!
Looks good and high quality!
Tbanks buddy! The valve has been on my tractor all these years and I’ve yet to have a SINGLE issue with it! Best 3rd function for the price for sure! Be sure to watch my most recent videos, I think you’ll enjoy!
This is awesome. Thanks. Did you say you disconnected the loader?
Sure thing! And yes I disconnected the loader I think to install the first part of the install on the tractor itself I think.. just to give myself more room cuz my shed was so small.. then I installed the loader I think to finish installing the hydraulics on the loader. I no longer use this shed for my tractor as I just finished building a nice big pole barn so from now on all my videos will be better and more spacious for us to do more work and bigger jobs. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for making this video. I was hesitant about doing this job until I seen your video and now feel confident enough that I can do this. Love your channel!
Watched your video and did mine! Thank you 11:23
Awesome! Glad to hear it helped, that’s why I make videos like these and to hopefully save people a lot of money by helping them to do the work themselves. Stay safe!
That is a great video! Probably the best how to video I've ever seen! I'm hoping that kit will also work on a bx2230 with a LA211 loader. It looks very similar.
Thanks a ton buddy, I assume it’s gonna work just fine.. the power beyond should be in the same location with that tractor tho some of the lines may be different or the fittings may be differnt but the lengths of the hoses should work for you and you should be able to figure out a mount for the front couplers if the factory one doesn’t work.. worst case you’ll have to run to Napa a few times for a few fittings/adaptors to make it all work and possibly have to make up a new longer or shorter hose but I have a feeling you’ll be alright. Let me know how you make out and thanks for your comment!
@@BiffsEquipment thanks for the info. A quick look at mine & I noticed the lines to the FEL come off the left side of the tractor. I think that's the power beyond line that you tapped into on yours which was on the right side if your tractor. But I'll have to remove my MMM & get a better look at things. And that universal kit may be the better option for me. Thank you again! Appreciate your help
@@lenartjr yah you may be right.. hard to believe they woulda changed the complete location of the power beyond but they may have cuz the loader valve on their old BX were part of the loader and not the tractor back in those days .. lmk how you make out buddy
Excellent - detailed video!
Thanks Eric! I tried to make it as detailed as possible for those who have never done it before. Thanks for watching!
Damn nice looking job 👍🏼.another good one . I have a BX23S And I’ve been thinking about that for the last year or two. To be a grapple is the only real good way to deal with moving brush and limbs. Thanks again
Thanks Chris! Iv been very happy with this Summit 3rd function kit.. I use it with my grapple almost weekly and have not had a single issue with this kit or a single leak.. Its one of the best 3rd functions you can buy and IMO its one of the cheapest too and just about $500 you cant beat it. I agree a grapple is the best tool by far for moving brush and logs.. I just limbed every tree on my property the other day, made a pile of brush near every tree that I did then used my tractor and grapple to grab each pile one at a time and threw them on my burn pit.. Cleaning up the brush took me 10 min vs the hours it woulda taken me to move it all by hand.. Its def a life saver!
Great instructional video. Really appreciate the detail. I am new to Kubota but love the 2021 Bx23s I just purchased. I purchased a grapple bucket delivering in 2 weeks and will be installing this same 3rd function valve kit for that. When installed, hopefully correct, the grapple will utilize the two hydraulic connections from the new valve, correct? Thanks again for the great instruction.
Gary
Hey Gary! Just responded to your email actually this morning, yep once you get your grapple then grapple will utilize the connections at the front of the loader which come back and get connected to the 3rd function valve itself.. basically the lines/couplers are the loader are just an extension off the main valve so that you can attach your implement hydraulics at the loader instead of directly to the valve up by the cab. You shouldn’t have any issues but if you do just let me know.
PS. Take a read through the comments section of this video, there’s quite a few people who talk about how they installed it on their bx23s with out issue and they may be able to give you some useful information if you read through some of them. Take care and good luck!
My summit third member addition didn't last a year , I am hard on the little kubota , tree guy , trees are hard on everything especially trucks . I bought a landpride one , you wanta see some bad instructions try landprides ..glad I put on the summit first really , even though it failed .
Thanks for sharing! Sorry to hear I failed, I have never had a single issue with my summit kit, I wonder if you just got a bad kit or something. Anyways I’m glad your back uo and running!
Awesome job Biff
Nice! I want to put one on my GC1720.
Deffinelty do Phill you’ll love it! If you find one made by summit you shouldn’t have to pay much more than $500 which in my option isn’t a bad price at all for the added implements you can use with it.
The only thing that sucks is that I have to get a universal kit and figure things out for myself. I'll have to look for a video on here to see if anyone has put one on their gc.
@@banditweasil ill be attempting the install on my GC1705 as soon as it comes in. I just bought this kit and just plan on making adjustments as i run it.
Great job.
Thanks Daniel! Sorry I’m just seeing this!
Excellent job on the video! I have the Curtis cab with my BX2680, do you know if it will still work the way you did yours?
It should still work but I’m not 100% certain as I do not own a Curtis cab. You may wanna call the manufacture and see what they say to be sure before buying it but either way I know you COULD make it work.. but not sure if or how much work it would take you to make it work. The biggest thing would be if they have the holes in the cab for the hydraulic hoses to go through for the couplers out on the end of your loader, the second thing would be if the 3rd function valve itself will mount to the floor there with the cab in the way.. you may have ri make a custom bracket or mount the valve in a slightly different location If the cab interferes with the stock bracket. Best of luck!
So I have a Summit front third function installed. I want to add a rear option such as this on a bx23s. Do you know how this fits with a backhoe and the swivel seat? I'm also looking at the Summit electric unit but don't like how exposed everything is.
Could you have put the mounting block bracket on reversed so the hoses did not have to have the bends in them and rub against the floor board edges? Does it interfere with removing the loader?
Thanks for watching, I’m sure you could but there is a few reasons I think they want it mounted this way, one is for what you suggested being that it will likely interfere with you removing your loader, I’m sure you could work around it but it would make things much tighter there.. for 2 there is LED indicator lights on the valve so if they are facing away you won’t be able to see them which really isn’t a big deal but it’s something to think about.. my hoses do touch the floorboard but they do not rub or chafe. They are zip tied securely and as long as you mounted it tight you won’t have any issues with chafing hoses or scuffing your floorboard. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment I have to side with Bri on this one, the strain on those hydraulic hoses seems excessive. The valve assembly would still face to the operator providing visibility to the LEDs. The valve assembly would be unbolted from the bracket, the bracket would be rotated 180 degrees and the valve assemble would then be bolted to the bracket again. This would shift everything forward by about an inch reducing the strain on the hoses. It doesn't look like it would adversely impact the access to the loader release mechanism. If this isn't workable, I would be inclined to put a couple of 90 degree fittings on each line to correct for the offset.
Hi Biff, Thanks for the clear explanation! Today I began installing that same kit on my BX25D. The manual isn't bad, but the sequence in your video is better. For example, I tried mounting the valve assembly, then connecting the P and T hoses to it, but the hoses are so stiff that it was impossible, so I re-did it your way. I have a question: How on earth did you get the new T hose to bend around to connect to the old steel one under the tractor near the fuel pump? Every way I try to route it, something's in the way. The plate protecting the HST fan is a particular offender. I might just remove it, as I have a removable aftermarket skid plate anyway. And to disconnect the steel line in that cramped spot, I ground down a wrench to fit. The new hose fitting is bigger, so it's even more cramped a fit. I guess I'll grind another wrench for that.
Sometimes working on this tractor is just as bad as working on the engine in my boat, where you need to be double-jointed and work upside down in tiny spaces. I would appreciate knowing how you connected that hose. Thanks!
Hey Carl thanks for your comment I’m glad my video has helped you thus far on your install! The summit 3rd function kit is a great kit, by far one of the best for the money and my kit has been holding up fantastic I use it weekly with zero issues since this video not even a single leak. As for the hard steel lines it is a sun of s gun to remove that short steel line.. I didn’t grind my wrenches tho, I basically just slammed the wrench between the lines and pushed really hard till the other lines bowed out of the way giving me enough room to turn the wrench.. all of the lines just sort of bowed out of the way as I loosened and tightened that rubber line but none of them got “bent” Permanently.. you can be pretty rough with those steel lines they are pretty durable as long as you don’t go too crazy and they will come back to their normal position once your wrench is removed.. that’s how I did it tho just brute force pretty much as it is a very difficult spot. As for the hose I think I explain in my video which hose I used for the one to connect to the steel line and I think I even showed it at the end how I came under the floor into the wheel well then looped it back around the frame of the tractor (I think) to make the connection to the hard steel line. You’ll have to watch the video again and see if maybe you missed the part where I go back over each hose.. I wish I could help you more but it’s been so long since I did this install that I can’t remember exactly how I bent the hose and what not .. if you wanna email me at mbifaro@gmail.com I may be able to send you some pics tho when I get time. Hope this helps, best of luck!
@@BiffsEquipment Thanks for your response! In the end after much sweat and cursing, I did get it all put together. After that, it was all pretty simple. I use the 3rd function to run an Add a Grapple that I bolted to the original pin-mounted bucket. It works great, much to my surprise, because I have zero previous experience in hydraulics . I really relied on your video to give me the confidence to tackle the installation.
@@carlapplebaum3014 awesome man! Those add a grapples are nice I see tractor time with Tim use his from time to time they really seem to work great for what they are. I made this video for the first timer doing this type of job so it makes me happy to know that my video is helping people. Stay safe out there! 👍🏻
Wow, great video. Really easy install.
Thanks Del! I appreciate that.
I changed my hoses up and ran them on the inside of the frame rails. That way they are protected by my skid plate. Had to add a 90 fitting on the one end to make it work. I never liked the hoses sticking out under the floor board.
Yah I tried to do this but the hoses were not long enough, I only saw one way of doing it and that was running them along my floor board.. I highly doubt it would ever be an issue tho.
I’m sure you won’t have any issues at all. I saw Paul Short did the same thing so that’s what I did. Good install.
BotaArt yah I wish the house was long enough.. to be honest the short hose was just about 6” too short and the long hose was like 8” too long in my option.. tho in the kit this is how they want you to connect it from what I saw so I didn’t think anything of it but if I coulda ran it inside the frame I def woulda.
Thanks for watching man!
I had the same reaction with the hoses. I took the front line off and with a tubing bender bent it to exit the front with the existing FEL lines. Bought a duplicate line as the rear half alone with a male to male adaptor and shaped it to exit with existing lines. Then had 2 14" hoses made to tie end. I have pics but don't know how to share them.
Wow, excellent video. I just got a landpride grapple and 3rd function kit. After watching your video I feel confident to do the install. Originally I watched Paul & Kathy Short's vidoe and it was not as informative as yours but it did prompt a question regarding the power beyond. In your video you remove the bolt on the left side and on the other video the bolt was removed on the right side for the power beyond, what is the difference?
Thanks Paul! Really glad i was able to help clarify things for you and others doing the install themselves, that exactly why I wanted to make this video as there really wasn't any good videos out there aside from Paul shorts which like you said was missing a lot of information. As for the bolt you are referring to if I'm thinking of the right one it shouldn't matter, I would just do it the way I showed in this video though just to be sure you don't have any issues. As for the land pride 3rd function congrats! That's a really nice 3rd function man, i actually like the landpride valve better than my summit one but like my summit controller a bit better than landprides but that's just a personal preference type of thing.. Both are really awesome kits no doubt. Let me know how your install goes!
@@BiffsEquipment Thanks for replying. I agree the Landpride controller is not as nice as the Summits. Not sure why I said bolt in my earlier comment, I can understand why you had to guess a little to what I was referring to. It is behind the right rear wheel where you removed the nut from the line on the left hand side of the manifold block of the power beyond that I was referring to. The Landpride instructions say to connect the new line to the left side as you did. I was just wondering if connecting on the right side makes a difference since I had seen Paul Short connect on the right side. I did drop him a comment but he hasn't replied.
I have been watching your other videos and they are so well done that I am s subscriber now and look forward to your new content.
Your Artillian grapple and forks are awesome. I like them a lot better than the Landpride grapple I just got.
Take care, stay safe!
Good job on the video.
Thank Joe!
Good job sir.
Great video!
Do you need this kit in order to control the remote top link? I watched your top link video and I’m not sure on that. Thanks!
Thanks for the video 📹 it was awesome 👌 I will follow you.
Awesome I appreciate that Carlos! Thanks for watching and I hope my video helped!
Great video! What year is your 70 series BX? I'm looking to put a front loader on a 2015 BX2670 and dealer is telling me only the LA243A model will fit (no universal skid steer like on your LA344).
Thankyou! I own a 2013 BX2370 with an LA340/LA344 loader.. show your dealer my videos because I promise it will 100% fit. Let them know they need to remove the hydraulic manifold off the new loader and install 4 standard pioneer couplers onto the loader hoses itself and once they do that the loader arms will bolt right on and the loader will slide right into place with zero interference.. my dealer told me the same thing 3 years ago till I proved them wrong.. they weren’t gonna order the loader for me until I proved to them it would work and once they finally believed me they ordered it and were impressed how perfect it fit.. since then my dealer has done 10 other older BX tractors and they have thanked me for showing them it works.
@@BiffsEquipment Awesome thank you!
Now that you've had some time with the third function kit, how do you like it? I'm thinking about a summit for my l2501. Should I have any reservations about buying a summit instead of a land pride? Thanks for the detailed video. It's been a great help!
Thanks for watching, the summit 3rd function kit has been fantastic.. I have yet to have a single issue with the entire kit or fittings.. the fittings are very high quality as well.. I will be using it a bunch in the upcoming month with my new artillian grapple so stay tuned for that if you wanna see it in action but as far as I’m concerned it’s just as every bit good as the land pride kit.. I now have seen multiple UA-camrs, along with guys on forums and Facebook groups using this kit since I did mine with no issues and all have been happy with them as far as I can tell.. you wouldn’t think summit as being a company for tractors but they actually make quite a bit of hydraulic parts and kits for tractors and all of them do very well.. they also make a hydraulic multiplier valve kit for rear remotes that lots of people buy with out issue and it’s they have grown quite popular over the years for a Premium tractor hydraulic parts supplier. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment That helps a ton! Thank you. I'm going with the summit kit. Summit should send you some free stuff. I'm definitely buying their stuff based on your video and experience with the product.
@@mikekinneymaineguide8020 thanks buddy, I’m not sure they even know I made videos on their products but would be great if they did! I’m glad I was able to help, let me know how you make out!
Great video! Have you put the wheel spacers on yet? Thanks
Thanks Big Dog, Not yet, I actually ordered them and they were the wrong ones so I have sent them back and keep forgetting to re-order them, thanks for the reminder tho!
18;54, 3/16 lug nuts? Did you get the kit from a Kubota dealer?
Is this the bx25. Also for rear remotes was that bx26?
Thanks for the video. Been looking at one of these for a bit. Have you used it for any length of time yet for a good or bad impression?
Sure thing. So far I have used it around my house and I also used it on a few jobs, its holding up extremely well and i have zero complaints with this kit... Its a very solid kit, one of the best IMO.
What are the specs on the hydraulic top link? I'd like to get one for my BX as well. The bolt where you put the zip tie at 25:51 will likely cut your hydraulic line over time.
This is a very nice video. I’m hoping you can explain to me this power beyond. I have read the definition of what it is and I still do not understand. All the hydraulics flow through a central point - - correct? The power beyond is a separate Central point through which fluid flows usually to something like the front loader - - correct? I saw were you pulled the hard tube from the power beyond that’s not the issue. Don’t all tractors have a power beyond ? Or do all of the tractors have all hydraulics going to just the one central location? I don’t know what do you call it a well or a pump or whatever you call that central location. I ask because I heard Tim from TTWT say one time that he had a power beyond added to his LX3310. I guess I don’t understand why you need this power beyond second central location/well To add your third function. I am unsure if I’m being clear or what I’m asking.
The power beyond is your main hydraulic flow coming from the pump I believe and it’s where most hydraulic implements and attachments get their hydraulic fluid/flow from. I’d say you are correct in what your thinking. Thanks for watching and sorry I only just saw your comment!
How do you clean the grease from your tractor
I typically wipe it off with a rag or a rag with a little WD-40 on it. WD-40 is very good for getting rid of grease on painted surfaces and it will not hurt the paint. Also when I grease my tractor I am VERY careful not to over grease.. just 2-3 full pumps per fitting is usually plenty, once I start to hear the air pop out from the joint I’m greasing that’s an indicator it’s pretty much full is grease. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I noticed that your machine is a BX2370 and you have a LA344 loader which was designed for the newer 80 series. I have the opportunity to buy a LA344 and I was wondering if you had any experience or might know if that loader will fit my BX1860. I’ve scoured the internet and Facebook groups without an answer. I know that I’ll have to change the couplers for the hydraulics, but I was curious to know if the loader brackets would fit mine with the 1860 having a shorter frame. If you have any insight I’d be glad to hear from you! Thanks in advance!
Thanks man I appreciate it. As for the newer LA340/LA344 loader from a bx80.. yes it will fit your 1860 and to the best of my knowledge the frame is exactly identical.. the only thing Kubota changed with the 18hp models from the 23-26hp models is the tire sizes and the seats.. the rest of the machine minus HP and PTO HP is virtually identical.. Also the BX1880 uses the same loader as the loader I have on my bx2370.. so again there’s no reason it won’t fit your BX1860. You are correct about the couplers.. the only thing you’d need to do is remove the new hydraulic “quick manifold” and install your 4 regular Kubota female pioneer couplers to the ends of the 4 loader hoses.. the hose lengths also do not need to be changed as I found out when I did mine. Hope this helps!
@@BiffsEquipment I appreciate it! Like is mentioned in other comments and you even said, the dealer tells you that it won’t work, when clearly it does! I worked for a CaseIH dealer for a number of years and I know that sometimes it’s just trial and error and a little fab work to see if something will work.
Thanks for you help! Great videos. Definitely a new subscriber!
Hey Biff, how does it work when both the top link and grapple are attached? What prevents the flow to the top link when you want to operate the grapple?
It will not, only the top link OR the front attachment can be used at a given time.. so I simply have the 2 lines for the grapple disconnected at the 3rd function in order to plug in my rear top link.. this is no issue for most people tho as typically you wouldn’t need to operate both a hydraulic front attachment AND a hydraulic top link at the same time.. typically you’d either be using a front attachment or a rear attachment and not both, but if you ever did wanna keep both plugged in with this setup then you could simply add a diverted valve and the top of the 3rd function which would allow you to flip a switch to change which function you wanted the 3rd function to operate.. so you could choose to make the 3rd function work just the rear or just the front with this diverter valve. Hope this helps! Last option of course would be adding rear remotes with your 3rd function.
@@BiffsEquipment ah, makes sense. Great videos, keep up the good work!
Great video! I’m a bit confused - did you run the hoses for the rear hydraulic top link all the way to the front on the loader?
Hi Mike, yes I ran the hoses from the hydraulic top link all the way up to my new 3rd function valve so that I could sue my 3rd function valve to operate my rear hydraulic top link since I didn't have anything else to use my 3rd function with at the time such as a grapple.. In my latest video I just uploaded I installed a rear hydraulic remote kit on my tractor which allowed me to plug the hydraulic top link into that instead so I could keep my 3rd function on my loader clear for my grapple. Check out that video when you can I think it would help you a lot.. At the end of the video is where I install and talk about the hydraulic top link.
LINK: ua-cam.com/video/tK2bQMFdlkE/v-deo.html
Biff what do you use for the hydraulic fittings to put together? Teflon tape, dope, ??
Hey Wayne, you don’t wanna use pipe dope or Teflon when assembling anything for hydraulics. I use a special hydraulic thread paste that’s made with out Teflon that’s made specifically for hydraulic fittings. The stuff I use is made by loctite I think. You can find stuff like it at your local Napa.
Have you ever gotten air in the hydros after using an attachment?
Hey Brian, no I never had any issues with air in my attachments or just never noticed it.. typically if you do get air in them it will quickly work it out after the first time you use it and you usually won’t notice it anyways.
Would this kit fit a 7260 Cub Cadet? Also what is the kit number?
Hey Carlos I am unsure if it will fit but I'm positive with some Tweeks you could make it work.. Only things you would have to change is the possibly the hydraulic hose lengths, and the fittings and bracket.. the rest of the kit is identical for any other sub compact tractor. As for the part number its in a link in the video description. Thanks for watching!
Can the 3rd function be plumbed to the loader for a grapple?
Yep that’s what a 3rd function is for.. are you asking if the valve itself can be mounted to the loader instead of the tractor? If so I’m sure you could do it but you’d have to make your own custom brackets and would need to custom make a few hoses for your custom
Length as most kits are designed for the machine they fit and already have pre mounted spots where they go
Hey man good video. Looking at getting summit 3rd for my kubota l4701. Reviews look good on summit. Can’t figure out why it’s cheaper than other brands. Bout made my mind up I’m gonna get the summit brand. Still liking yours. Have you used it with a grapple yet ?
I havnt used it for a grapple but if you check out my tree sheer video I have used it for a custom tree sheer I built, I have also used it for a rear hydraulic top link.. the 3rd function has worked flawlessly and I have had zero issues with it since install. It’s a very very good kit for the money and they use most of the same exact parts as the WR Long kit which is a highly recommended kit by many tractor company’s. Thanks for watching let me know when you get it and how it works out for you!
Very good work
Thank you! Cheers!
So how did you get your screen cover back on with how the wires are running from the solenoids? I started installing this kit and I have my wires through the firewall but they either block the screen or plastic sides when I go to put them back on…. Also, I’m 99% certain A and B were stamped wrong on my valve assembly.
Sorry I’m just seeing this message Mike, I ended up just squeezing the wires on the side of the screen, the screen still slides over the wires just fine tho it makes the screen stick out a small amount. Did you ever get it all figured out?
Hey man just curious if you think your bx has enough reach to load a Dually pick up bed? I’m looking at getting into some dirt work and can get a old Chevy gtm400 Dually for nothing and was considering installing a dump kit on it…
I would think it would have just enough reach but you wouldn’t be able to stack material Very high as you’d be close to the height limit on the bx but I would think you’d be ok for the most part. Measure the side of the bed and then measure the cutting edge with the boom at max height and the bucket fully curled and that will give you a good baseline
Nice! Did you get it primarily for the top link or do you plan to get a grapple or some other front mount implement?
I deffinelty got the .3rds function for a grapple and auger as well as some joke made hydraulic front attachments I plan on building this winter but since I bought it I felt the hydraulic top link was a good use for it for the time being until I have more hydraulic attachments I can use. Rest assured I’ll have some sweet hydraulic stuff in the coming year! lol
Any idea where your friend bought this nice Hydraulic top link? Thx
Hey Dany, I think it was removed from an old new Holland snow blower, not 100% sure tho
12:43 A what fitting? I know them as a bulkhead fitting. Cant understand what you are calling it.
Bulkhead fitting
A bulkhead fitting or Sometimes they call them a “pass through” fitting
Does this kit work on a 2019 bx 2380.
It doesn't specify that but I believe it will work just fine, there is no reason why it shouldn't because the loader is the same as mine and the distance to the hydraulics are the same as well.. Only thing different is the loader valve location which they give you plenty of wire with the new joystick/switch. Hope this helps lmk what you ended up going with!
Hey Biff, at 20:48, I noticed that you have a hose connecting your delivery pressure from around the other side of the tractor. Mine is a steel line. Did you have to replace that line at one time? When you go to put your rear hydraulics on, you will get that line new.
Jason
No that hose is original and every Kubota bx with out a backhoe I ever saw had a soft hydraulic hose here .. I’m thinking yours is steel cuz you may have a backhoe for yours? I know this is where the backhoe gets its hydraulic fluid from the power beyond so maybe that’s why yours is steel I’m not sure. What year is your tractor? If it’s newer than mine that could also be why
@@BiffsEquipment no, mine is a BX2660, I wonder if they changed it on the 70 series.
@@HuserHelpers thats a good possibility, possibly the metal line was getting chaffed from vibration? I know my soft like looks like brand new still. Not really sure, this is the first I ever heard of a metal line being there. Did you buy your tractor used?
@@BiffsEquipment i bought it used in 2019 with 140 hours. It is a 2010 build year. I've got 240 hours now.
Damn man should have got remote kit
Could you measure the cylinder?
I can, Ill see if I can measure it for you in my next video.. Plan on making a new "technical type" video today.
@@BiffsEquipment thank you.
@@jj1479 You got it buddy.
Wheres the ling for the kit?
Here is the link and thanks for the reminder! Ill be putting this link in the video description. This is the exact seller I got mine from too. LINK: www.ebay.com/itm/Third-Function-Valve-Kit-Kubota-BX1860-BX1870-BX2360-BX2370-BX2660-BX2670/274054901376?hash=item3fcef1ee80:g:Ii8AAOSwH51dp1Rb
They are not relays. They are simply coil connectors
Hey Doug you are correct, they are coil connectors, when the coil is energized it pulls and opens the valve. I called them relay by mistake at the time. 👍🏻
Good job sir.
Thanks Ron!