Installing WR Long 3rd Function Kit on Neil's Tractor | Kubota B3350
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2020
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Nice to have a big shop with all the tools and helper!! Good job you two!!
You are my go to guy. Best videos on the web. Thanks!
Thanks Neil. I have a WR Long 3rd function and seeing how it’s all hooked up will help with future maintenance if needed.
Thanks for the very intuitive how to video, that was extremely helpful.
Glad you took us step by step through the installation of it. I do wish you had shown us the electrical connect part of it.
I'm getting ready to install the exact same valve on my B2650, and so I've watched several installation videos on the subject. Yours is the best I've seen so far. I'm not sure if it is because I've already seen all the others, or because you covered the installation from a different approach, but I found your video to be very helpful for what I'm about to do. Thanks
I absolutely love these videos..
Great explanation, excellent coaching.
Neil is allowed to play with the big toys but has to get a stunt double to touch the wrenches. ;)
Very glad I had the dealer install this when I bought the tractor😊 I think I paid $1000. Some stuff is just way easier up front when you buy the tractor.
Very helpful video, thank you. Placing my order today.
I have this WR Long kit on my cab tractor, the dealer mounted it below cab on the rear of tractor. This works great, out of the way and no chance of me ripping the wires out of valve when working around trees/brush. Reasonably priced kit to get the 3rd function
I put one on my Kubota with a backhoe everything was pretty easy except for where to hook up the hydraulic lines I ended up taking it to Messicks/Halifax and the mechanic hooked it up but even he was scratching his head a little but he got me fixed up. I have a grapple for the loader and I also use the 3rd function for the backhoe I converted the thumb to hydraulic works great 👍
Best option you can get!
And its cheaper than an extra tractor by far.
Thank you Sir!!
That was very informative. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I was getting scared for a moment thinking maybe Neil was really going to swing a wrench! ;^)
They cringe when I do.
We was the Royal "We" ha ha ha nice walk through...
I watch you videos even if they don’t apply to me, Neil. Lol Great bloopers at the end!!
I have an L4200 and had my Kubota dealer install this when I purchased the tractor used last year. The tractor stays on my woodlot about an hour from my house and trying to install this while on a dirt driveway and swatting mosquitos and horse flys didn't seem like a fun project. Was well worth the price.
Even though I am a massey Ferguson fan, I think kubota tractors are pretty AWESOME 😎😎😎😎
You guys are the best. Can you do one of these for adding rear remotes?
I wish someone would make a video installing a 3rd function with a backhoe no one has one and not a lot of info on the net your video was very helpful though showing exactly what ports thank you
that's actually easier. the backhoe should already be plumbed at the "power beyond" port with two hoses going to the rear of the tractor, one is pressure to the backhoe, one is return back to the tractor. follow the hoses back and (on my MX4800) is an aluminum block just under the r/h side of the loader. undo just the hose that is pressure "out" to the backhoe"- the pressure "in" side of the 3rd function valve hooks in to there, the "return to tank" side of the 3rd function valve hooks to the backhoe "pressure in" hose that you removed in the first step.... and if i remember right the pressure side of the backhoe hoses is the one with the male side of quick connector.
hopefully this helps
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I recently took delivery of an LX2610. The first thing I did once they got if off the trailer was to fold the ROPS so I wouldn't forget and tear my garage door frame out. The first thing I did once my ass was in the seat was raise the 3 point so the rear blade could clear the dip at the end of my driveway. I suppose it doesn't speak very well of me, but somehow I feel better about myself when I see that Neil Messick's own LX3310 has the same bent top link that I had less than two minutes into my tractor ownership! Lesson learned!
Just need a wicked grapple now!
Neil, would like to have been able to watch a video like this before I installed the rear remotes on my B2650. Among other things, had a heck of a time finding part number/correct fitting for the loader valve. Even your parts guys sent me the wrong one.
Was so easy to install, I had Kubota to do it 🤣
The OEM from Kubota is better protected and neater. Also you get buttons instead of a toggle switch.
He had his roll bar folded when he lifted his 3pt to full height, bent the top link. Been there.
Need to mention that when mounting the hose to the loader that the hose wont be pinched or stretched through all loader and bucket movement. Sounds obvious but it happens all the time.
Those are some huge floor jacks
Yes, I didn't think they were using floor jacks
FWIW: i put a dash mounted switch to control power to my third function switch and a red power indicator light. i only turn it on when i have something attached to the front loader that requires hydraulic power like my grapple. this way i don't accidentally actuate pressure to the front when i don't have a need to. this saves on accidental pressure spikes when operating the loader
Smart. The OEM valves also have this.
Another great video! I’m eventually planning on a third function myself because my need for a grapple . The work I did last week for 4 hrs cutting up a downed oak small enough to be handled into a wheel barrel could have been done in a few minutes and no back ache. There’s nothing like pushing a heavy wheel barrel past a L4701 that don’t have a grapple , Ouch.
I see this owner learned the hard way with the top link. The rops can't be down if you bring up the 3pt.
Informative video as always but would have been nice to see it function after the install.
Stay tuned
@@MessicksEquip Could you talk about how an afterMarket dual lid Grapple could negatively effect the Kubota Hydraulic system. I have a L4060 Grand with the Dealer installed Kubota 3rd function valve, Hyd FEL autolevel and a Backhoe that I am using to carry some Huge Red Oak logs to my neighbors sawmill. My backhoe is a great counter Balance but it now leaks like a sive and now the Backhoe bucket is swinging to one side. I feel like when I hit a bump in the road the FEL/Grapple is sending a hydraulic Shock to the system. Am I harming my Tractor.
A day late haha I stumbled through a landpride 3rd Function install on my l2501 yesterday the instructions were pretty vague on what ports to use basically said we suggest a dealer hooks it up I assumed b y was power beyond works like a charm love the grapple moved firewood all day
How do you like the Land Pride kit?
@@MrManic52001 it's a good quality kit zero complaints installation instructions aren't that great but I figured it out I saw a new Kubota LX series tractor that had a Kubota brand 3 rd function on it had hard steel lines on parts of it opposed to all hoses on the land pride and was very well set up with guards etc not sure it's available for the L series or not may be something to check into if you're looking
@@mattcanfield6384 yeah, i am about to drop the dime on an L3301 DT and i am mulling having it plumbed from dealer OR diy.
Did the kit come with all the hoses and wiring?
@@MrManic52001 it came with everything but the couplers you pick which style you want to match your equipment it's a pretty easily install if your halfway mechanical and understand how third functions work and how the oil flows
@@mattcanfield6384 thank you
I built my own 3rd function setup from spare parts at my shop and ordered the handle / switch online. I had trouble seeing the markings on the loader valve so I called my dealers shop to ask if they knew the layout. They had no idea what "power beyond" even was.....I wish I had been able to buy from you guys!
By the way - if there's room (depending on model) the valve is better protected mounted on the other side of the loader frame in between it and the hood / engine shroud.
@Jordon Carlson Trade school? What's that? Is that where they teach new "techs" how to charge their laptop for diagnostics and email the factory tech support for help when they don't have step-by-step instructions with pictures?......I've got guys with 10 years plus in equipment work who still think every hydraulic fault starts with "the oil in the tank must be low"!
I have a Kubota M5400 from early 2000’s. I would like to add a loader but I’m not sure where to start. It’s pretty low option. It was used in a horse barn to run the manure spreader. Thanks for any advice!
I need one of these but I dread taking my back tire off! It's loaded and gonna be HEAVY if I don't drain it.
How about addressing the HST split my new tractor in half to tighten a bolt
I done this to the T on my L4240 ,my grapple works great in one direction ,open or closes ,if I swap the hoses at the diverter valve quick disconnect the grapple works great in the other direction otherwise it’s always extra slow in one direction
Probably have bad couplers
@@MessicksEquip that’s what my local hydraulic shop said so I spent $70 to replace the new ones that had came with the 3rd function kit no difference
Damaged 3rd function solenoid then.
which kit would you recommend for a BX2380, the Kubota BX2412, the LandPride Kit or a WR Long? Thanks
I’ve got an L2501 with a third function valve which I use my grapple. What other implements can take advantage of the front hydraulics. For example can a front mower be adapted using my skid steer type quick mount? How about a front mounted rotary anvil mower? Brush hog style?
Can we get a video like this for a m6060 or bigger plz
If I need a continuous flow in the rear of the tractor , can I put a hydraulic multiplier in the 3pth line? my tractor has a visible cylinder for the 3pth in addition to possibly internal lifting mechanism.
thank you
What is the small lever on the top of your third function
what are these valves rated flow? i can't find that on their website. need a valve that can function both a grapple and a motor, system is only 6 gpm so i would think it should be able to handle that.
Neil,
What about a mahindra max 28xl with a backhoe from the factory???
Hey Neil, was curious if Kubota sold a front receiver for a L2501. We started moving hay wagons with our L2501 and its make life easier of their was one. I could just put a hole in the bucket, but I'd rather not. Thanks!
lots of companies that do, but not Kubota directly.
Ok Neil, I just know that the "OFF BRAND" comment was NOT a reference to GREEN tractors, so.......what was it? LOL Thanks for the vids and info!
I already have a third function on my mx5100 it works great wouldn't be without one again. But I'm wondering does kubota make a kit to make quick tach accessory arms hydraulic similar to a " bob tach"
Yes
Messick's is there a chance you could do a video on that accessory?
Hey Neil, great video. How far do you ship? I am 40 minutes south of Winnipeg Manitoba Canada.
parts, all over. Pretty far to send equipment.
Are you worried about having that valve on the outside of the tractor like that? Seems like there has to be a better option? Thanks for the walk through.
I am. This is pretty typical of the one-size fits many valves. The OEM ones (when available) are cleaner.
@@MessicksEquip I would like to Point out that the OEM on my L4060 Grand hangs low to the ground and has two hoses that I worry about snagging on the downed trees that Im still trying to clear from Hurricane Michael Way down here in NC! ( Don't tell anyone Neil but I'm a transplanted Pennsylvania Countyboy from Schuylkill Co) LOl P.S. The Christmas light show is the Best around. Worth the drive home!!!
Wow that was real lucky
So since this kit is using the power beyond port does that mean one could use this kit and both loader ports at the same time? E.g., close grapple, curl and lift
oil will flow the path of least resistance down all 3 circuits. Its pretty challenging to do them all together.
Could you make a how to video fro Kubota BX 25? BX24 Tractor loader backhoe owners?
I've done dozens of videos on BX Kubota's.
Why is the unit not placed at the front of the tractor on the loader and use the loader bucket cylinder hoses as the feed and return lines. The default 1po1sit1ion would be to tip the bucket the other for auxillary ports.
There is a style that does exactly that, they are harder to use.
@@MessicksEquip thank you for the reply. I would not be happy with that product. I guess I am too much of a neat freak to have that type put on my bx23. I would want the factory style installation where there would not be any extra hoses on the loader and the quick detach would not be impacted.
I would have liked to seen some sheilding around that electronic diverter as it is hanging off the side of the tractor. Is there an option for that, or would someone have to fabricate it themselves?
working on a video to show differences between different brand valves. These are cheaper than OEM, but less shielded and not fit quite as well.
@@MessicksEquip Looking for a OEM kit for a L4760. Are they available and come with install instructions? If yes and yes please provide a part# for the kit.
@@happyrecluse2849 on several month long back order. We can get them from WR long in 7 to 10 days. 8772603528
is this the same with the new LX 3310 with a 535 loader? the loader valve looks like it is in the same place as on the b3350 . are the kits and hoses the same? Has anyone done this yet on the lx3310?
It is. I bought an LX3310 and moved the kit from this tractor to that one.
I can't find the WR Long kit on the website
We did not finish the web pages yet. To order call Nate @ 800-222-3373, opt #1.
What do you do if you have the power beyond kit already installed on your tractor for a backhoe?
That is a very good question that I myself am wondering.
T the PB port
that's actually easier. the backhoe should already be plumbed at the "power beyond" port with two hoses going to the rear of the tractor, one is pressure to the backhoe, one is return back to the tractor. follow the hoses back and (on my MX4800) is an aluminum block just under the r/h side of the loader. undo just the hose that is pressure "out" to the backhoe"- the pressure "in" side of the 3rd function valve hooks in to there, the "return to tank" side of the 3rd function valve hooks to the backhoe "pressure in" hose that you removed in the first step.... and if i remember right the pressure side of the backhoe hoses is the one with the male side of quick connector.
interesting
Doesn’t Kubota offer optional rear SCVs to run your third valve on loader off of?
My LA1153 has the option at the rear so i was just going to have some lines made and use some zip ties that will hold the line to to the tractor. I can unhook them from the grapple when i change back to the bucket.Im not sure why i would need this.
You can, its hard to operate like that
Messick's I have my grapple set up like that and it’s not a big deal since my 3rd SCV control lever is right below my loader control but I would agree if your rear SCV control is somewhere else, I got Green and Yellow tractors, reason I’m asking was my buddy just bought a 3901 Kubota and wants to install a grapple like the setup I have, thanks for reply !
Had this installed from dealer and 3 months later its stopped keeping the grapple bucket closed and open. Its like it leaks by. They replaced it and its still doing same thing. Dealer says they dont know why. So i have to keep pushing button to keep bucket closed when loading brush. Just curious if u all have had any issues with this?
sounds like a bad solonoid.
you might put a pressure gauge on the return port of the valve to see if something is causing pressure on that side. next i would move that pressure gauge to one of the grapple hoses and try again, unhook your grapple and from the quick connects and hook in your pressure gauge to one side of the quick connects, start the tractor and pressurize the hose with the gauge, when you let off it should hold pressure- if it bleeds off right away you might have a bad 3rd function valve.... maybe (more than likely) you have a hydraulic cylinder bypassing? the other way to tell is to take one of the hoses off your grapple (undo it from the quick connect on the tractor and remove the quick connect on the grapple side) and direct it into a bucket, then pressurize the other side and see if the fluid keeps bleeding off. pressure gauge should be able to handle 5000 psi.
What is the average time to install a third function kit on a kubota trtractor ?
I've seen it rushed in about 90 minutes, 3-5 hours if doing a tidy job.
why not a genuine kubota kit?
does kubota have a factory one?
Yes and it is a little neater and better protected.
there seems to be a bit of leak
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Do you have a 3rd function kit to fit a 7260 Cub cadet and what would the cost be? I want to get a grapple for my loader.
Email your info to parts@messicks.com
I have a bx23s is there a kit for it
Yes
WHY is everyone putting the diverter on the loader mount to the ouside of the tractor so hose connections stick out where they can catch on things?
YOurs has less hoses... and thus doesn't have the more common 2 hose connections pointed straight out. So that's better, but I would think still vulnerable to catching hose and or wire.
Isn't there a way to mount that somewhere else?
Hey Neil, at 4:35, does Josh know, that you made him talk and laugh like a chipmunk, in what could be his first and last staring role in one of your videos?
Neil what kit do I need for my L2501?
messicks.com/part/380-152a/kubota-std-l-series-third-function-valve-kit
@@MessicksEquip Neil will this work on my B2601 with a BH70 Backhoe or does the backhoe use the extra port?
@@mikehobbs8625 You have the T the port.
O wanted to get a b3350 but was told you can't buy them anymore. Tried to sell me a b2650 instead
The new LX model has a 33 HP, but not released yet. While there are many happy owners of B3350s, the reality is it's quite a way short of 100% happy. The warranty work was killing Kubota I think, and some of their dealers too. They're available second hand if you particularly want one, but most people would tell you to wait for the new model.
3 , function for *L2501 would like a price
Hey great video. Can I get a kit for my 05 B7800? Ether oem or aftermarket? Thanks!
Yes you can! 800-222-3373. Ask for nate.
@@MessicksEquip Thanks Neil, spoke to Nate the other day. Very informative conversation and outstanding customer service. I'm gonna go with a Land Pride 380-152A kit to get the two button control versus Wr Long's rocker style switch. I may need to have one hose made up to make it work or maybe not. Still figuring that part out. Hopefully I can use the kit in it's entirety and make it work. Also like how your website states the quantity of the various kits you have in stock. That's awesome.
Yo Neal I installed that 380-152A kit on my B7800. Had to tweak the mounting bracket and add two fittings. Bought a Worksaver 48” grapple, had two hoses made up for it and now everything is working well.
Why this aftermarket if Kubota offers its own 3 function kit?
Kubota only offers kits for current machines. We use these on old tractors, or weird brands.
Why the WR kit vs the Land Pride kit?
Would a Land Pride kit be more factory looking?
Yea, we generally use LandPride on the models where its offered. WR has a bunch bigger offering .
@@MessicksEquip on an L3301 would the kit come hard line plumbed or would it be hoses?
I know the new LX look sharp very clean but I expect the L series to be more function over looks.
Hoses on the land pride kits. Oem has hard lines.
@@MessicksEquip so for an l3560le it is an option?
@@TommyOmallet yes.
What's the bet that **EVERY** person that posted a dislike on this video is most likely a tractor repair shop owner? :-))
What made you get a career of selling kubota tractors 🤔
worked in IT for a few years, mostly contract work for the state. Decided I hated sitting behind a desk and doing 2 hours of work in an 8 hour day.
What you are saying that is if you are planning on getting a grapple or something else you should maybe when you get the tractor you should have it put on when you get the tractor.
If you would return your calls I probably would have bought one from you.
I just hate after market stuff. Makes it look cobbled looking. Big hose and valve
FWIW: i have the same "Kubota" kit...... the valve is identical, the only difference was the control switch handle. has two buttons instead of a rocker switch.
The wrench man works very quickly and has a very odd voice...
Come on guy, solenoids are not electronic, they are electric. Those are two completely different concepts and aren’t anywhere close to being the same thing.