You have just scraped the surface of what the car is capable of. My driving instructor took me on hot laps in my 996 at Road Atlanta last time I was there for a track day. He is a pro and we were traveling at insane speeds, so much faster than I was capable of driving the car. He was constantly providing input to the steering wheel because he was at the limits of adhesion. It was fun and scary at the same time. He was keeping up with less experienced drivers driving the new GT3 RS, except on the long back straight where horsepower always wins.
You’re quite right, Eric. The problem here wasn’t the car. It was the driver! I gave it everything I had but need to learn really. Next time, I shall do better!
Jay : Goes to Porsche cruises, autocross, track events in his 911 during covid. Me: Goes to grocery store, work, and home in wife’s Lexus during covid. I might as well hand in the Porsche keys. Oh and I’m 30 .. so jealous! Keep at it brother, living vicariously through you from Cali!
Glad you had so much fun. Being on a track in a car you love can be addictive. My thought would be that before you do it again, have the IMS Solution done. The 996/997 motors are the first that Porsche Motor Sports did not approve of for racing. That does not include the Turbos and GT2 and GT3, which used a totally different engine design. But for spirited driving, as you were doing, the 996 is comfortably in its element. Also, you might enjoy using a hybrid approach on the Tiptronic...not putting it in manual mode, instead leaving it in Automatic, but using the buttons to down shift only...letting the transmission deal with the upshifts. This allows you to brake late going into the turns, downshifting while you are braking. And then let the car handle when to upshift based on the throttle you are giving it. A person who really knows how to drive a Tiptronic can often match or exceed the performance of the same car with a manual. The only negative with a Tiptronic is that they are more expensive to rebuild if you destroy it. If you decide to track the car on a regular basis, changing the transmission fluids more frequently is highly advised. And to give the car some rest periods for the trans oil to cool down. Yes Tiptronic is often called "bulletproof"...but that does not mean it is immortal. Best wishes. John
This video brought back many memories for me.........during the early 80s, I spent many days tracking my Porsche at Lime Rock Park with my PCA local club, Schattenbaum Region. Lime Rock became one of my all time favorite tracks. While watching some IMSA races there, I noticed that the backside of the track was changed a bit heading to the uphill, but all other turns are the same, including the big fast right-hander leading on to the front straight and, eventually, Big Bend at the end of the straight. What a great track! Nice video! Thanks for the memories.
Thank you very much! Yes, I think the part leading up the hill was changed a bit to slow drivers down a bit. The guy leading us said that it didn’t make much difference though! I think a car nearly took off before they changed it - that hill is a bit terrifying! It was such a buzz to drive on the circuit. I saw the Le Man series race there a couple of years ago and now I have seen what it’s like to do it myself. Well worth $175!
JAY READ So, my question is this, Jay..........we’re you able to “not lift” when you made the right turn down the hill on the the front straight? If you did, you’ve got major cojones! As said before........I love this track, possibly my favorite.
@@JAYREAD awful weather and so much litter everywhere it was my first and last time, a great experience though, people hate the tiptronic and its got a bad rep and killed values, but people are missing a trick here by listening to people who have probably never even driven one, I think it's super responsive and I much prefer a proper auto than a modern robot manual/auto like the pdk and dsg, it's a shame nobody has done a 996 manual vs tiptronic video to show people the truth
Full agree on all fronts there! I compared a manual 992 to my 996. That’s the closest I have come. Apples to giraffes, I know. Yes, that was the only time I ever went to Le Mans but I am definitely going back one day.
The last 5 years i have tracked my 2005 997.1 Carrera S, i have installed the IMS solution, Low temp. thermostat and the third radiator, sometimes air temp. has passed 95 F, i drive the car the whole day with pauses in between, oil temp. never exceed 225 F. OCI at 5000 miles, oil analysis the last 5 years show allmoust no wear metals, the car now passing 100000 miles, unopened engine, no sign of bore scoring, fantastic cars
ecolyn Bore scoring occurs when people let the car idle on cold days to warm it up. The emission systems light off the catalytic converters by dumping excess fuel in during the warm up cycle. This washes the oil off the cylinders and causes the wear coating on the piston skirts to start coming apart. Once that happens, bore scoring will happen In Short order. The key is to start the car, and take off as soon as it idles smoothly, keeping the RPMs below 4K until the engine is warmed up. The quicker the car warms up, the quicker the excess fuel stops. Bore scoring can also be caused by a bad injector, but the main cause is delaying the warm up.
Love the enthusiasm! When the rear in a 911 starts to go, you can stabilize it by adding a little throttle. The car will transfer some weight to the back, squat down and gain some grip and you can generally ride it out as long as you get keep countersteering correctly. Once you get the hang of that, nothing else out there is quite so much to slide around in as a 911. They love to have that rear end moving around!
Nothing wrong with the Tips on tracks at all, shift across to manual/paddle shift and keep the revs above 4000rpm for insane fun. Another great video and so good to see you getting the best out your 911. Looking forward to your next video.
Beware the addiction of the track. While the 996 M96 is not an engine with which to compete (I have the C2), once addiction starts you will look for a reliable competitive car. Honda and Mazda have great entry choices, with heaps of go faster stuff and ready access to parts. How do I know? I started tracking in 2006, and since have raced extensively in tarmac rally, and more latterly circuit. Including 3 times in the Nurburgring 24 Hour. And it all started with a track day addiction at the age of 52!
Haha! I felt that addiction. There was a chap there with a Mini Cooper S Works who, I think was having a better time of it than I was in my C2. Lime Rock themselves use Miatas / MX5s. I’ve always liked them as a car and I reckon they’d be a very adaptable car for track work. Glad to see that addiction comes at any age too! Thanks for posting. Audi film coming on Sunday. You might like that one.
@@JAYREAD yes, I have run a Honda (Acura) Integra Type R DC2 for 14 years. Quicker track car than many of the faster street cars I have owned. And heaps of fun to drive. You don't need an expensive fragile euro!
Audidude I just can’t imagine taking a Japanese car to the track, let alone, being seen driving one on the street. I’ll leave those cheap little tuner cars for the wannabe fast and furious kids. You just can’t get the same feeling, that you get with a 2.7 short stroke early 911, singing at 73000 RPM. And they are reliable. That’s the reason they have won most of the major endurance races in the world.
@@rodgraff1782 Ha Ha, I thought such anti-Japanese snobbery belonged in the distant past. Clearly not for some. I'll guarantee you've never actually driven one competitively or seriously (I'm sure you wouldn't be seen dead in one!), so we'll leave you to your uninformed biased comfort zone :). Meanwhile those of us who appreciate brilliant high quality engineering excellence from the land of the rising sun will continue to enjoy our vehicles. And me also my Z4M Coupe and 20V ur quattro. You see not all of us are so besotted with one marque we fail to see virtue in others.
Great looking track with minimal pressure for screwing up. Great to see you hit those corners hard. I blame your spin out on the track and not your skills. :) Thanks for sharing the video. Great fun for all to watch.
Jay, didn’t Porsche tell it’s customers, when the 996 came out, not to track the car? I thought it was due to the oil sump and oil starvation. The turbos and GT3 uses the Metzger engine, and has a dry sump, with external tank, so they are designed for the track. Boy, I wish we had a short track like that in my area, instead of a parking lot with cones for Autocross. I suggest you spend some money on suspension, and install the Bilstein PSS10 or KW Variant lll, suspension, lower, and corner balance the car. It will transform the handling, and you will love the car even more.
That looks like tons of fun... There are some upcoming autocross events coming up hosted by my regional PCA... I'm strongly considering joining in, but I'm trying to source another set of wheels/tires for the occasion.
It was a bit addictive, Dave. You want to keep doing it until you run out of fuel! Great car to do it in too. I was, in fact, the only one that spun. Twice. The others were clearly not even trying!
Good deal.....unusually inexpensive for that track. Seriously historic for the North East. I have seen many many races there, everyone should go. Bring a small chair but walk all around to the different corners to get an up close experience of the race cars. 2021 should have racing back.
Hi Jay, I haven’t watched all your 996 videos so I highly likely missed it...have you ever experienced a sloppy front end / jello-like steering feel in the 996?
WHAT?! You HAVEN’T watched ALL my videos?! Just kidding. No, I’ve never felt that on mine. Mine has very low mileage though and so the bushings are all up to snuff. Mine still feels tight. The steering on 996s in my experience is actually harder to turn than most modern cars.
Depends on what you need. AWD adds weight but also traction. They say the 2WD is the purer experience and I can say that in the dry with good tires, you wont be disappointed!
I was just right on the limit. The car felt like it was floating at the back. Right on the limit of grip. I guess I must have lifted and that combining that with being on the limit just did for me. Never mind! You’re not giving it everything if you’re not over the limit at least once!
Are 996 Porsche 911's with automatic transmission available for purchase (if you do not know how to drive manual)? Can you fit in the back seats as a passenger at all?
2:52 - Your reaction to that was perfect! Driving a 911 the way it was intended...to the limits and beyond!! :-D
You have just scraped the surface of what the car is capable of. My driving instructor took me on hot laps in my 996 at Road Atlanta last time I was there for a track day. He is a pro and we were traveling at insane speeds, so much faster than I was capable of driving the car. He was constantly providing input to the steering wheel because he was at the limits of adhesion. It was fun and scary at the same time. He was keeping up with less experienced drivers driving the new GT3 RS, except on the long back straight where horsepower always wins.
You’re quite right, Eric. The problem here wasn’t the car. It was the driver! I gave it everything I had but need to learn really. Next time, I shall do better!
Jay : Goes to Porsche cruises, autocross, track events in his 911 during covid.
Me: Goes to grocery store, work, and home in wife’s Lexus during covid.
I might as well hand in the Porsche keys. Oh and I’m 30 .. so jealous! Keep at it brother, living vicariously through you from Cali!
BAHAHAHA! Too funny! Glad you’re enjoying it. Makes it all worthwhile! Thank you.
Glad you had so much fun. Being on a track in a car you love can be addictive. My thought would be that before you do it again, have the IMS Solution done. The 996/997 motors are the first that Porsche Motor Sports did not approve of for racing. That does not include the Turbos and GT2 and GT3, which used a totally different engine design. But for spirited driving, as you were doing, the 996 is comfortably in its element.
Also, you might enjoy using a hybrid approach on the Tiptronic...not putting it in manual mode, instead leaving it in Automatic, but using the buttons to down shift only...letting the transmission deal with the upshifts. This allows you to brake late going into the turns, downshifting while you are braking. And then let the car handle when to upshift based on the throttle you are giving it. A person who really knows how to drive a Tiptronic can often match or exceed the performance of the same car with a manual.
The only negative with a Tiptronic is that they are more expensive to rebuild if you destroy it. If you decide to track the car on a regular basis, changing the transmission fluids more frequently is highly advised. And to give the car some rest periods for the trans oil to cool down. Yes Tiptronic is often called "bulletproof"...but that does not mean it is immortal. Best wishes. John
Cheers John! I really do love this car! Great advice as ever, thank you. Keep it coming, I find it really helpful.
This video brought back many memories for me.........during the early 80s, I spent many days tracking my Porsche at Lime Rock Park with my PCA local club, Schattenbaum Region. Lime Rock became one of my all time favorite tracks. While watching some IMSA races there, I noticed that the backside of the track was changed a bit heading to the uphill, but all other turns are the same, including the big fast right-hander leading on to the front straight and, eventually, Big Bend at the end of the straight. What a great track! Nice video! Thanks for the memories.
Thank you very much! Yes, I think the part leading up the hill was changed a bit to slow drivers down a bit. The guy leading us said that it didn’t make much difference though! I think a car nearly took off before they changed it - that hill is a bit terrifying! It was such a buzz to drive on the circuit. I saw the Le Man series race there a couple of years ago and now I have seen what it’s like to do it myself. Well worth $175!
JAY READ So, my question is this, Jay..........we’re you able to “not lift” when you made the right turn down the hill on the the front straight? If you did, you’ve got major cojones! As said before........I love this track, possibly my favorite.
HAHAHA! No!
Jay thanks again for the ride along!
You’re very welcome, my friend! It was really nice to meet you! Sorry for spinning and ruining your street cred!
I’m from Sweden, drive a 996 C4S, use to look at yours videos AND have been at Lime Rock myself, in fact!!!
Hi Christian! Thanks for watching! I love Lime Rock!
cant believe we were both in lemans in 2007 and now both tiptronic silver 996.2 owners!!
Best race I ever went to. Even in the relentless rain of 2007.
@@JAYREAD awful weather and so much litter everywhere it was my first and last time, a great experience though, people hate the tiptronic and its got a bad rep and killed values, but people are missing a trick here by listening to people who have probably never even driven one, I think it's super responsive and I much prefer a proper auto than a modern robot manual/auto like the pdk and dsg, it's a shame nobody has done a 996 manual vs tiptronic video to show people the truth
Full agree on all fronts there! I compared a manual 992 to my 996. That’s the closest I have come. Apples to giraffes, I know. Yes, that was the only time I ever went to Le Mans but I am definitely going back one day.
@@JAYREAD which part of the UK are you from, you sound like you were down south, I'm from a place called Chichester
@@Amazingfeet New Forest in Hampshire. Originally Northamptonshire.
The last 5 years i have tracked my 2005 997.1 Carrera S, i have installed the IMS solution, Low temp. thermostat and the third radiator, sometimes air temp. has passed 95 F, i drive the car the whole day with pauses in between, oil temp. never exceed 225 F. OCI at 5000 miles, oil analysis the last 5 years show allmoust no wear metals, the car now passing 100000 miles, unopened engine, no sign of bore scoring, fantastic cars
ecolyn Bore scoring occurs when people let the car idle on cold days to warm it up. The emission systems light off the catalytic converters by dumping excess fuel in during the warm up cycle. This washes the oil off the cylinders and causes the wear coating on the piston skirts to start coming apart. Once that happens, bore scoring will happen In Short order. The key is to start the car, and take off as soon as it idles smoothly, keeping the RPMs below 4K until the engine is warmed up. The quicker the car warms up, the quicker the excess fuel stops. Bore scoring can also be caused by a bad injector, but the main cause is delaying the warm up.
@@rodgraff1782 Totally Correct ! I allways follow the under 4k rule until i got oil temperature
Love the enthusiasm! When the rear in a 911 starts to go, you can stabilize it by adding a little throttle. The car will transfer some weight to the back, squat down and gain some grip and you can generally ride it out as long as you get keep countersteering correctly. Once you get the hang of that, nothing else out there is quite so much to slide around in as a 911. They love to have that rear end moving around!
I must say, I LOVED it! It was such good fun. Yes, I sense that I just needed practice. That was the first time I had ever driven it that fast!
I got the same car. But mine cabriolet. Love it
Nothing wrong with the Tips on tracks at all, shift across to manual/paddle shift and keep the revs above 4000rpm for insane fun. Another great video and so good to see you getting the best out your 911. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you for staying with me! I appreciate it!
Beware the addiction of the track. While the 996 M96 is not an engine with which to compete (I have the C2), once addiction starts you will look for a reliable competitive car. Honda and Mazda have great entry choices, with heaps of go faster stuff and ready access to parts. How do I know? I started tracking in 2006, and since have raced extensively in tarmac rally, and more latterly circuit. Including 3 times in the Nurburgring 24 Hour. And it all started with a track day addiction at the age of 52!
Haha! I felt that addiction. There was a chap there with a Mini Cooper S Works who, I think was having a better time of it than I was in my C2. Lime Rock themselves use Miatas / MX5s. I’ve always liked them as a car and I reckon they’d be a very adaptable car for track work. Glad to see that addiction comes at any age too! Thanks for posting. Audi film coming on Sunday. You might like that one.
@@JAYREAD yes, I have run a Honda (Acura) Integra Type R DC2 for 14 years. Quicker track car than many of the faster street cars I have owned. And heaps of fun to drive. You don't need an expensive fragile euro!
Audidude I just can’t imagine taking a Japanese car to the track, let alone, being seen driving one on the street. I’ll leave those cheap little tuner cars for the wannabe fast and furious kids. You just can’t get the same feeling, that you get with a 2.7 short stroke early 911, singing at 73000 RPM. And they are reliable. That’s the reason they have won most of the major endurance races in the world.
@@rodgraff1782 Ha Ha, I thought such anti-Japanese snobbery belonged in the distant past.
Clearly not for some.
I'll guarantee you've never actually driven one competitively or seriously (I'm sure you wouldn't be seen dead in one!), so we'll leave you to your uninformed biased comfort zone :). Meanwhile those of us who appreciate brilliant high quality engineering excellence from the land of the rising sun will continue to enjoy our vehicles. And me also my Z4M Coupe and 20V ur quattro. You see not all of us are so besotted with one marque we fail to see virtue in others.
Great looking track with minimal pressure for screwing up. Great to see you hit those corners hard. I blame your spin out on the track and not your skills. :) Thanks for sharing the video. Great fun for all to watch.
You’re too kind! Lol!
Jay, didn’t Porsche tell it’s customers, when the 996 came out, not to track the car? I thought it was due to the oil sump and oil starvation. The turbos and GT3 uses the Metzger engine, and has a dry sump, with external tank, so they are designed for the track. Boy, I wish we had a short track like that in my area, instead of a parking lot with cones for Autocross. I suggest you spend some money on suspension, and install the Bilstein PSS10 or KW Variant lll, suspension, lower, and corner balance the car. It will transform the handling, and you will love the car even more.
Rod Graff I don’t think they’re built for use at the track, no. That’s a small handling track at Lime Rock Park in CT. Great fun!
That looks like tons of fun... There are some upcoming autocross events coming up hosted by my regional PCA... I'm strongly considering joining in, but I'm trying to source another set of wheels/tires for the occasion.
Go for it, Eddie!
As Robbie said.....Let Me Entertain You.....and you certainly did Jay ! Great Video 👍🙏🏻❤️
Haha! Thank you!
With a bit more practice you’ll feel the car loading up, then you can power through to break adhesion and into a power drift 👍👍
It was a bit addictive, Dave. You want to keep doing it until you run out of fuel! Great car to do it in too. I was, in fact, the only one that spun. Twice. The others were clearly not even trying!
I was really worried you were gonna let thar mini pooper pass you
No! :-)
Good deal.....unusually inexpensive for that track. Seriously historic for the North East. I have seen many many races there, everyone should go. Bring a small chair but walk all around to the different corners to get an up close experience of the race cars. 2021 should have racing back.
Hi Jay, I haven’t watched all your 996 videos so I highly likely missed it...have you ever experienced a sloppy front end / jello-like steering feel in the 996?
WHAT?! You HAVEN’T watched ALL my videos?! Just kidding. No, I’ve never felt that on mine. Mine has very low mileage though and so the bushings are all up to snuff. Mine still feels tight. The steering on 996s in my experience is actually harder to turn than most modern cars.
Wonderful 👏
Gracias!
That Corvette, built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro!
Lol!
Great video Jay!
Thank you as always, Kurt!
Jay would you recomend 2 wd or 4 wdr for the 996
Depends on what you need. AWD adds weight but also traction. They say the 2WD is the purer experience and I can say that in the dry with good tires, you wont be disappointed!
JAY READ thanks jay!!! Love your channel
@@footballfanatic5060 thanks a lot. More stupidity tomorrow in my latest film. 996 vs 992!
I would say if you're a beginner, AWD will save your butt haha. Makes me look like I know what I'm doing!!
When you spun, did you happen to lift off the throttle? Do you remember?
I was just right on the limit. The car felt like it was floating at the back. Right on the limit of grip. I guess I must have lifted and that combining that with being on the limit just did for me. Never mind! You’re not giving it everything if you’re not over the limit at least once!
Are 996 Porsche 911's with automatic transmission available for purchase (if you do not know how to drive manual)? Can you fit in the back seats as a passenger at all?
Yes, mine is an auto. No, not really. Small children only.
Get your hands at quarter to three on the wheel bud 😆. You’ll have a chance to save the spins 👍🏼
Ha! I’m such an amateur, I know! Thanks. Next time I definitely will!
DID YOU VOTE TRUMP OR ...ERR.....I FORGOT HS NAME.....
These are the important questions.... for a Porsche video!