I Put a Titanium Grayl in the Campfire and this Happened!
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The Pathfinder Store makes a stainless steel cup for the standard Grayl. A little cheaper alternative.
One thing I have noticed with my Grayl: Be sure to push all the way down, you might even want to give it a downward twist at the end. I have unfiltered water leak out when tipping the grayl to pour water from it, or drink from it. The last thing you want to do is contaminate your drinking water from a leak.
Hey friend🙂 I have heard of others having this problem. I found a response to a video with something to help with this. Get food grade silicone grease. Put a very thin film around the part that seals at the top. It’s inexpensive and it does help🙂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Ian.. Yeah, but probably worth the extra trouble not to contaminate your drinking water.
Why not a Sawjer one 0,01 micron!?😂
@@guillaumekeulen219 They are very slow. And you'll need a carbon filter for several of them if you want to get rid of the 'flavors' from various water sources. Grayl is all one.
@@USMC6976 all in one Indonesian Peanut soup!
They fit on my 2 gallon guardian Gravity filter
You dont need carbon filter
Paper coffeefilter with Norit or other medical grade active carbon as prefilter and again with new paper & carbon
Watching for the first time from scotland. Just a comment regarding water. After boiling , tepid water actually hydrates quicker than cold water. Although cold water is refreshing never dismiss Luke warm😊
This was a nice "actual world" test. Thanks!
Got the long stainless steel cup from Pathfinder (which was made in colaboration with Grayl, which is hard to come by in Germany). The Geopress nests inside of that long cup, but it makes the whole thing just so much more heavy, than it already was, without that stainless steel cup. I recently saw the titanium version as well and thought that sounds like an alternative, but then I saw the price tag and though, "I'm good. Just deal with it.".
If you want Pathfinder gear, you can check
militarysklad dot cz (YT won't let me post a link) and search Pathfinder.
They usually a lot of their gear including their bed roll etc.
I'm pretty sure they ship to Germany.
I got a vargo funnel flask. Its my actual edc, I don't buy 33cl plastic flasks anymore for my kid and he loves to drink out of this. It fits like a glove in every pocket. I boiled water to test it and it works (without the silicone cap) for like real emergancys, also made tea on the go with esbit tablets xd. If i go hiking I use a 3 liter kathadyn sack. Much cheaper and does work. I used it when I did the GR, simple without tubes, just fill the sac and push to the filter. I think the price and bulk is overkill on this product.
The weight difference between a stainless cup and a titanium one is negligible. I remember buying a Pathfinder titanium cup and bottle after having bought the stainless ones and the price really is NOT worth it. You won't regret saving your money.
Seems like the stainless cup is also bigger diameter and volume. I worry the Ti Geopress is too narrow for some stoves, especially since it will be top heavy on a canister. I get the campfire scenario, but very unlikely where I live.
Dave Canterbury has a video showing the difference between the Titanium Grayle and the Stainless Grayle (when the filter is wet) is 4 oz. Buy what you can afford. Personally I'm to poor to buy junk! It doesn't appear either option is bad.
I love the Grayl. With your experiment as a reference, I may go for the Titanium model now.
Follow David Canterbury's advice and use a Millbank bag to remove turbidity before pressing.
I'm a PA resident and yes it is hot 🔥 this week
I'm from KY,it's hot here too!!!
I'm in KS, this is just summer for us.😢
I've had Sawyers and many other types of filter/sterilization systems. I happily carry a Grayl these days. The speed, simplicity, and thoroughness of filtration is second to none. Try it before you knock it, people.
I’ve had the smaller Grayl Titanium for a year that’s been through many fires and still works perfect. Great video Dan. One thing to mention is water filtered by your Grayl has zero taste. Ditch water will taste like bottled water.
Hey Dan, I love the Grayl…add a Mill Bank Bag as a pre filter and you have a good wilderness water system.
Cheers
i know a guy that lives in an area with high clay soil. he said adding a mill bank bag to his Grayl filter press doubled the life of the filter.
@@PlayaSinNombreyep, it's true. I've done it.
You can also just put a bandana or T-shirt over the Grayl water collection to prefilter and save money and space in your pack.
I love my grayl filter bottles, they are a little expensive but work great and I've never gotten sick using them
I’ve done almost all my backpack hunting and trekking in the mountains from CO-AK using a scarf to filter and a steri-pen. For large bladders I use aqua tabs. They are small, takes up little room and works every time. It may not taste good but you will survive and not get sick. I’ve used this method for years always works, saves space.
especially with the thermal conductivity of titanium, it shouldn't get appreciably above 212F/ 100C, which is nothing for titanium. I do appreciate making sure though, and I wasn't aware of the product before. so, thank you.
Hell yeah I love my two grayl. Titanium and nesting cup is on my list
As long as there is water in the container it will only get so hot. But without water it will change. I worked on wildfires for over 30 years. In feeding firefighters, we would provide hot water I assigned an inmate to be the one who provided hot water. He got sidetracked and the 1/4” thick aluminum kettle boiled dry. We had molten metal on the ground because of no water to cool it.
This is a titanium container and has different heat tolerances than aluminum. Not saying it would withstand a forest fire, but it's not the same material.
An inmate?
@@rockonwinkYeah 😂 probably one Kamala harris chose not to release to fight wild fires LOL
I've had various titanium pots over about 17 years and I've always heat treated them by boiling water over low heat, empty trust with medium heat before releasing over high heat.
@@ozquark8384 Titanium just warps with high heat, same with thin stainless pots.
Personnallly I like the Sawyer Squeeze combined with a smart water bottle.
Grayl is only famous because someone famous used it. It’s too expensive and the refills too. For what it is.
Does Sawyer filter viruses?
@@blueoutside3394
Grayl refills?
@@relicpathfinder2800 yes they do.
@@relicpathfinder2800 the replacement filters. lol
I’m glad they have a metal one. That peaks my interest for more than the plastic one.
I'm rocking a Sawyer with smart water bottle and transferring to my single walled clean canteen
Thanks for guinea-pigging your Titanium Geopress for us Mr. Wowak , it's good to know it holds up to the fire test ! ! !
You ruined the video for me.
@@charliedelta1136
That's on you.
Next time don't read the comments.
I have one! It’s so nice to have
I have a Grayl and its awesome
Thank You For Sharing, Dan. Excellent Presentation, As Always !
The Grayl has been all over YT for some years now, I was using my MSR Guardian and did NOT plan on switching. Got in prepper mode one night, this was on sale plus I had a coupon, I'm thinking of the drinking water source on our property and how the Grayl filters chemicals too...damn it I bought one! The titanium model! What a timely video! Bought two extra filters for it so that should last a while until I get a more permanent filtration system set up. You know, for when the world ends. 🤣
Keep one in my ‘get home bag’ incase I ever need to hoof it home ^^
The end is nigh.
The end is about 3 months away! ( Canadian prepper, and others)
SRO offers a SS nesting cup for the GeoPress as well. Add a millbank bag and you’re golden.
I love my Grayl it goes with me everywhere, I don't have the titanium bottle yet my plan is to get it real soon, how ever I have seen one of the bottles that didn't have the cap secured and attached to it , so I believe there are two different bottle types and I hope that when I order one it will come with it attached , great video , great information , I'm now a subscriber .
I have the grayl and bought the stainless steel nesting cup for it, better option in my opinion
Been wondering about using the cup as a kettle. It's like you read my mind. Now I know .
Thank You .
Only problem with the titanium Grayl is if you accidentally drop it/bang it/etc and the titanium bends, the filter won't work (at least not well). I opted to stick with the original non-titanium Grayl filter and either nest it with a stainless or titanium cup, or double up with a stainless steel 40oz Klean Kanteen.
I have used a Grayl for a couple of years, it a great tool. I'm interested in the titanium version, thanks!
It will be interesting to see how well these hold up over time.
I've had the Grayl for years now and Really Love it..I have seen the titanium version but price wise expensive. I also have the Cup as my system. Recently bought the Mulbank bag just for the Grayl..because I my area silky water would clogged this filter in no time at all. Great video as always..saving my coins ..will be purchasing this titanium version ASAP.
Grayls are awesome I have drank out of mud puddles for 3 days with zero issues.
I seen them. I thought about getting one and thank you for the demo. And the information too.
Expensive but I like the idea of having the option of boiling as well thanks
Great information as always. Thank you 😊
It will be nice to know how well it will hold over time with the usage + the regular campfire
I’ve used a Grayl for years in this and several other countries. Easy to pack and pretty much bulletproof. I’ve even strapped it onto my mountain bike or off-road motorcycle and have never damaged it. I recently got the Ti version and expect it to be just as good, but with more versatility as you state. He original one I have will see secondary duty in my get-home bag. As far as price, do you need to spend this much? No, but if you can, you can. Love how some will spend near a $1000 on a tent or thousands on pew pews, but complain about something that will be most likely to kill you if you get it wrong.
👍👍👍👍👍👍 Great presentation Dan. ----Michigan. Was 94 here today.
Great Video as always, thanks Dan. I'm a big fan of the Grayl, I have 2. 🍻👍
Excellent information, I appreciate your videos
Stay hydraded, stay in the woods
In Germany we say:
Endlich mal wieder ein Bier trinken im Wald
😂😂😂
Yes!
Nice! 😉
Brooklyn lager might be the best lager in that part of the woods.. I’d look for a better beer.
@@DThomas1976Du sollst gscheiter trinken, nicht mehr lagern 😉!
Waiting for a waxed canvas holster with a belt loop and shoulder strap to come out for the geopress.
Thanks for another great video.
I hope I can say it! Grayl great product, Dave made it better. Pathfinder Grayl cup and bottle set, fixed all that.
Great review! I’ve been thinking of getting a Grayl, but I may grab the one with the steel container just to have that as a back-up.
Waited for this video, thanks for making it!
Wow, thank you for this, very informative and useful.
Teuer aber fur outdoor wirklich zu empfehlen. Oder wenn man wenig Plastik nutzen will.
Hab 2 in midnight blue und eine in Titan. Titan is mein Favorit ❤
Good info. Glad I checked it out
Awesome! I purchased the life straw, but thinks the Grayle would be better because of the option of pouring water into other containers... got it on my list to buy next. Thanks!
😊thanks Dan😊
Pathfinder put out a Grayl nesting cup that is incredible. It’s like a Viking mug and nests perfectly with the big Grayl. It’s actually my favorite camp/home mug.
I press it without the top on. No back pressure plus over time plastics gets brittle. Top off protects the threads.
Cooool.
Well I wouldn't use this to boil water but I really have to get me the titanium version!
I put this on top of my to do list. 😊
🔆
Super hot in new york as well. And I work outside. So stay safe. Stay hydrated. But when it comes to filters I prefer the sawyer mini. Dual threaded. The grayl is usless in winter and thatd when I do most of my camping. I have a chinesr knockoff version of the grayl. I could see it being okay in the summer. But it's just too big to stuff in an inner pocket to keep it from freezing.
A tad extreme but a great test I reckon. The titanium would be more suited to a gas burner of course, though the base is a little small for that. However, the titanium version is incredibly more expensive.
I like the Grayl concept but its major flaw is that if the seals are damaged or the 'cup' is deformed, the ability to filter water is effectively negated.
I have found a product via another UA-camr (Stephen J Reid) that does everything the Grayl does, but it's a 42mm cartridge that you can screw into HydraPak/Katadyn/CNOK bottles, etc. They're called Pure Clear filters. They're reasonably priced and a really good option so that you don't have to boil, and they filter viruses (which Sawyer/Katadyn/Platypus/Hydrapak, etc. do not).
Good video. I have the Grail but for me I prefer having the separate Grail nesting cup that you can get. Only problem for me is that if that cup got bent and you might be screwed that's why I think I'll just stick with my separate nesting cup that you can buy
Another great video. Thanks
That's an awesome filter!
That post burn attempt sounded like my morning pee!
here in south west Florida it's over 90 degrees every day........also you have to really look at what your filter will remove from the water.....In the swamp, you can get sick really fast drinking from natural sourses.
A Titanium cup basically
Well, it doesn't appear to be a titanium medical implant device. So yes it may very well be a cup.
Remember if using any filter that if used in winter to not let it freeze. Because it will expand and ruin it's capability to effectively disinfect your water.
awesome video
The Grayl is a good filter. Superior to the Sawyer filters. But the Grayl UltraPress Ti comes at a much greater expense…retails at over $200. So, I guess it is about what you can afford to use. I appreciate your honest review.
awesome thanks!
My dude is talking about the msr ceramic filter that has all the tubes and sucks. its 1lb dry and 2lbs wet and slow and a pain to clean. Im a sawyer man now, and get the $3 coupling to make a gravity filter and ease backflusing. Happy trails
i will say I like its less microplastics
the Grayl filter will last much longer if you filtered your water through a few layers of cloth first. Gets rid of the larger particles.
Great video
Dave Canterbury makes a stainless steel cup that fits over the standard Grail. So you can still have your Grail and a separate cup to boil water or make food in. I'm not saying that the titanium version isn't cool it's very cool but if you already have the standard Grail it's a small expense to get the stainless steel cup
I’ll keep my sawyers. $20 a pop plus they help get clean water around the world. The only time I spent a lot of money on a filter was when I got my sawyer sp122
Does it filter viruses?
4 drops of 2% iodine per quart of water . 5 drops of household bleach per quart of water. This works even better if the water is steaming hot .
He-Man, as a young lad. ;-)
Perfect timing, Dan. I was looking at these the other day and wondering how reliable that extra $100 investment would be if I put it in the fire. Thank you for taking the time to show us what happens! Stay in the woods...
We have hot summers here 35C+ for several months. Talking about beer. I often carry a can (not bottle) of zero alcohol beer that has been traditionally brewed on hot days, just in the pack or bicycle basket. it has to be zero alcohol. It is a good source of electrolytes, carbs, energy and some minerals if it has been made using traditional methods. Drinking it warm is not a big deal, you are taking it for its food value not to have a cold beer. And being in a can, you can crush the empty can to a small size. It does not replace water. If you read the label and know your dietary needs, it can be a useful part of an adventure.
I have a silocone funnel. Coffee filters. Pre strain as I fill into a 2lt bladder. The bladder is a USMC surplus can be a Lil backpack type thing.
Sit make a cuppa eat. Hang your bladder with a sawyer mini inline. Eat as your bottles fill. Fill the bladder sit it under the top of your pack lid. Drink from that as you go along and you still got as many bottles as you filled earlier from the bladder earlier. Tbh I think I'd be the same as a geopress.
I think geopress katydyn pump etc etc just gets too complicated and heavy. A sawyer mini inline. Add a spare and extra bladder if it's getting old as a spare it's lighter cheaper more functional overall
90+ degree is not super super hot.. the other day I looked at my thermometer under my umbrella that's over my picnic table and it was 108 degrees.. florida.. another matching thermometer out in the direct sunlight was reading 128..
If you Boiled the lake water, why do you need to filter it again? Thank you for the knowledge as always Dan.
Looks like a great item mate
I have both sizes of the regular Grayl. My concern would be denting the titanium and then it maybe stopping too soon, ripping the gasket or allowing dirty bypass.
Just make sure the cup has cooled before you re insert the filter housing.
I have several different kinds of filters system for water
If you're boiling water with the base it is because the filter broke right? So if it deforms it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't put it in the fire unless necessary. In which case, having the metal backup would be great
Stay hydrated boss , If your into extreme summer heat come visit Arkansas right now.
Spendy unit!
Yeah it ought not be a problem. Titanium is known for handling a high thermal load & dispersing heat really well.
😂 I don't think anyone thinks you're He-Man or Hercules! 💯
I have the original large sized with a stainless nesting cup (with lid). I liked that they now make the larger sized in titanium, but was also wondering how well it would last due to warping or worse, dropping it and breaking due to brittleness.
got a Steel nesting cup .... from Pathfinder that's made to fit the grayl
The problem with the Grayl is that the filters only last for a very short time and the filter replacements are HUGELY expensive.
The plastic bottle, you can boil water in it, don't let the flame get above the water, a paper cup can also boil water, don't let the flame get above the water.
Being able to boil also lets you save the filter for when you can’t boil in an extended survival situation.
"Being able to boil let's you save the filter when you can't boil" ... What?
i carry my smaller version titanium grail with me in the Philipines and I run all my water thru it, no problem so far.
Cha Ching !
Would cost me $300 with tax here in Canada
Katadyn hike pro is half the price, not as sexy but mines still workin 20 years later.
Cheers 🇨🇦
The best match is the Pathfinder Stainless Steel Cup that matches the Grayl,,,,
Brooklyn Brewing makes some good beer
It's a nice system and for convenience sake the titanium model is nice. However, if the cup ever did distort, the ability to filter correctly would then be compromised. I already own the Grayl system and the Pathfinder stainless steel cup that fits over it. So I'm not going to invest more $$$ into the titanium version. Also, if the titanium cup is ever dropped and dented then the effectiveness of the filtering process could be compromised. I like having the metal container for other purposes anyway.
Neighbor in Ohio here... yeah, stuck to thighs hot right now. Real humid too... just got rained on with clear skies too... gross humid.
Did the filtered water taste like smoke? Great video my wife has one of the old school plastic Grayl filters. I like that metal one.