Louis the Pious did not have four adult sons in 830. Charles was only born in 823 and didn't come of age until 838. Furthermore, the revolts of his sons in the 830's were more than just revolts. Louis was deposed by his oldest son twice. He treated his father so badly his other brothers come to their father's aid instead. Most of these revolts started because of Louis' decision to change 817's devision of the empire to also give Charles a part of his empire, several times over. Charles the Fat did not have five sons to split his realm after he was deposed. Most successor kingdoms elected rulers from their own midst: Berengar in Italy, Odo in France and two separate kings in Burgundy.
I DO know that when Louis The Pious was deposed, Historians nicknamed that event "The Field Of Lies" which is a reference that this coup was particularly distasteful.
I can definitely seem some parallels between the problems of the late Carolignian Empire and the troubles of state legitimacy and identity politics in the modern world.
Yes especially wrt Frankish identity and white identity versus multiculturalism. While I definitely think our societies are much more successful and our multiculturalism is better run there are similar problems.
10:48 …he was known as the fair…, however, if you look at the picture, it’s Butthead in a cloak.” Fantastic. Generally great content, thanks!
Louis the Pious did not have four adult sons in 830. Charles was only born in 823 and didn't come of age until 838. Furthermore, the revolts of his sons in the 830's were more than just revolts. Louis was deposed by his oldest son twice. He treated his father so badly his other brothers come to their father's aid instead. Most of these revolts started because of Louis' decision to change 817's devision of the empire to also give Charles a part of his empire, several times over.
Charles the Fat did not have five sons to split his realm after he was deposed. Most successor kingdoms elected rulers from their own midst: Berengar in Italy, Odo in France and two separate kings in Burgundy.
I DO know that when Louis The Pious was deposed, Historians nicknamed that event "The Field Of Lies" which is a reference that this coup was particularly distasteful.
Great video although there are some inaccuracies!
not sure what voltaire was on about, fighting a pointless civil war for control of the empire is about as roman as it gets
I can definitely seem some parallels between the problems of the late Carolignian Empire and the troubles of state legitimacy and identity politics in the modern world.
Yes especially wrt Frankish identity and white identity versus multiculturalism.
While I definitely think our societies are much more successful and our multiculturalism is better run there are similar problems.
@@ericthegreat7805multiculturalism is way worse and creates conflict
The butthead reference killed me
It's impossible to make oil paintings in the early medieval period, so, you shouldn't say "pictured on the left" as if it was from the 8th century.
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Human inefficiency annoys me
I didn't know that the Caroligians allowed females. I thought they had a strictly male gavelkind succession.
Well, each son would get half a kingdom, the daughter might get a few houses
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