Lecture: 2015 Personality Lecture 06: Depth Psychology: Carl Jung (Part 01)
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- Carl Jung was a great psychologist of symbolism. He believed that the imagination roamed where articulated knowledge had not yet voyaged, and that it was the artist and visionary who first explored new territory, civilizing it, in essence, for those who came later. The study of Jung makes the dead religious past spring back to life.
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I obtained a bachelor in psychology from Concordia University in Montreal and then a Masters of Science in Psychiatry from McGill years ago and I must say that when I hear your lectures I am grateful that I finally get what many professors could not give their students. They conveyed the details that they learned from textbooks but with no personal analyses - details without personal reflection or any emphasis on their significance. You on the other hand present information, valuable one at that, and you do so after having reflected upon this material thoroughly. You Sir are a pearl, a shining light, and we are lucky to have you. You are what a true professor should be! Thank you and God bless you. You live a beautiful and meaningful life and touch many!
For me, Hippocrates gave the formula in the temperament equivalent to E_MC2
@So interesting!
I'm sorry but you say you got a Bachelor's degree in Psychology and then a Masters in Psychiatry - How is that even possible?
Psychiatry is a specialization in the field of Medicine - in order to study Psychiatry you would first need to get a Medical Degree.
It's impossible to study Psychiatry with a Psychology degree - did you get an M.D. as well?
@@floatingchimney its only a two year graduate program, hes not a psychiatrist... Most people use it as a stepping stone, for medschool, or as an extra qualification when applying for jobs in psychology
@@mordyfisher4269 I know it's weird.
Psychology and Psychiatry are two very different things - even though sometimes they treat same things (but differently).
I don't even understand how you're supposed to study a graduate degree in psychiatry without having undergraduate knowledge in things such as physiology, chemistry and anatomy.
@@floatingchimney its because for the most part psychiatry is bs... It operates mostly under the premise that most mental anguish is caused by chemical imbalances, and has nothing to do with the world at large.
This is one of the most rewarding things that i got out of learning english
Thanks for posting this for free
Same here
Same
And yet everybody is ok with the current monetary value of English lessons. Please do something nice for your teacher. If you can follow JP, I'd hazard a guess you got at least to b2, maybe c1...prolly not c2, cause there very few who do...anyway, you can be sure that correcting your writing, preparing lessons, material and holding the lessons for what was probably a modest hourly rate can be...hard. Please do something nice for yohr teacher. At least let them know you appreciate their effort in enabling you to understand all these brilliant people. I mean, imagine if you were watching this while reading subtitles..think of all the idiomatic, idiosynchratic little subtleties that enrich JP's rhetoric...
Same. I understand it even at 1.5x🤔 It’s way harder to understand the essence than the language.
I only wish my speaking and writing would be as good as my hearing of the English language.
Same
Imagine being able to deliver a lecture like this without notes. Goals.
It's as if JP is himself an embodiment of the over man.
But he does actually have notes
He talked about it - of how he prepares before he gives his lectures.
He seems like he is looking down occasionally at his notes.
Its rather common to have notes just to note how on track you are.
I've done it for 30 years.
"Today we're going to talk about Jung, and I find that tremendously entertaining."
15'50 : He seems to be unaware of the fact that the DNA molecule DUE TO its double helix shape PLUS the degree of entropy (energy disorder) can like now known store terabytes of data. Consciousness is of course not material ,but 100% biological. The genes of neural cells f ex are its data containers. Consciousness is a magnetic field, a.k.a. data. Fueled dielectrically. That is how/why synaptic networks look like lightning burns into wooden boards "geometrically"
MEEEEE TOOOOO
@@KibyNykraft We should talk about that. There's so many information intertwined in all fields of mathematics, biology, computer science, in all means work and investigation, that we might actually be living a revolutionary change in our human social life span.
Hearing his lectures, oh I know it was Go Time at that point for him. Lol
Mic drop moment loll!!
I truly feel privileged to be able to hear you speak in such great lengths for free. Thank you so much!
Qj Foss this is what the internet should be. The spread of the individual and enlightened through these amazing technological means. It’s amazing.
Well said! Gratitude.
The Internet and the non virtuous algorithms know you're gathering virtues - You'll be sold lifestyle products, self help & such, that's your payment I guess, haha! Could be worse
@@_Lucrativesounds There has been. No collapse of religion. There is a good and an evil. Value differentiation is not enough. You clarity cones with person of Christ. Someone Neitsche and Jung alone went to their graves without. The Psychoanalysts of C.G.Jung added very little but confusion. Only thing it added was post-modernism.
John Tobey you seem about 10 layers NOT deep enough for this then. What are you here for?
Its amazing how he can talk that long and not waste a single word. Absolute gold video.
I agree, most of the things this man says are noteworthy.
I think your amazing
all of what he is doing is to tell you: you can do what i'm doing.
you can help people immensely, by being authentic among other things
@@freya5902 I think your amazing too
I hope that you come back even stronger, the World needs you.
The world needs to be Pinocchio.
JBP is my hero. He's actually many archetypes wrapped up into one very amazing human being. Let's keep him in our prayers cause we need this guy big time :)
Amen
As much as I agree with you and the other respondents I think the world is sadly far beyond even his help.
This deserves top comment
I went through something traumatic about 6 years ago. An encounter with malevolence and chaos which scarred me beyond what my childhood structure could process or defend me from. I was left anxious and mentally crippled. This lecture feels like it helped me make some sense of it all and It’s blowing my mind! It actually it feels like it’s helping me make sense of some of the inner turmoil I feel daily. It feels like I’m healing ! Thank God for this man and his work. 🙏🏼
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Hi Jonathan, I’m thankful to hear that you are gradually healing, and that this video is a catalyst for it 🙏🏼 impressed by your resourcefulness in order to find answers, as well as the synchronies that led you to uncover and act upon your new insights! All the best 😃
Dude I would recommend you to read maps of meaning, that book contains all Peterson's knowledge or at least a very big chunk of it. I have been for sth like that (I mean, I don't know what you have been through but I could use much or less the same words that you have used) and reading that book is truly helping me to go through all of that.
@@augustocanosa785 I own it I just haven’t got the chance to read it since I’m in grad school and for plenty to read. I wonder is reading the book so different from watching all his lectures. Which I more or less have?
@@Jchav0181 It is not different but deeper, when you watch his lectures Peterson goes to the branches and some times to the roots of the object of his lecture. He might miss some little points but all in all it's almost the same. To be honest I believe that if you watch his lectures AND read the book you will understand his broad perspective of the world and THEN you can make any critic even though it would be hard because his points are quite strong and firm. I was ignorant of many things in life and worse I thought that I knew it all, then I realized that I was a fool and I felt lost, Peterson showed me a different way to see life (the way that was shown by religions in general) and now I feel better. I'm also doing the self authoring and it is working out. Keep going, man.
"Anti-depressants don't help you if you're at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy. How could they? You're not depressed. You just have an awful life. *That is not the same thing.*"
-Jordan Peterson...why on earth are you not more famous and wealthier than Oprah??
HYAAAK!!! Because being rich and being high on a certain dominance hierarchy isn't the same.
He is saying anti-depressants only work if your aggression is produced chemically beyond your perspective control threshold I believe.
What he's saying is sometimes it's not about clinical depression necessarily, and in some situations medication won't help, because potentially the likelyhood is you're depressed due to where you're in life. Clinical depression, if diagnosed and diagnosed correctly... He absolutely agrees that medication can be very helpful for many individuals who suffer with a chemical imbalance. And the kid that said why Jordan is not as wealthy as Oprah.... is just one of those silly ignorant remarks kids make and unfortunately because they know nothing. Not yet any way. Btw.. love Oprah! This guy is brilliant! And I don't agree with every word, though he more often than not changes my perspectives.
In simple English it means if ur a loser with no friends or communication attempts so no relationship and consequently no life..tbats something u can read some self help books, work out, go out once a week and say hi to every girl u like..start with 25..ur walking and u smile make contact and smile as u pass each other. Not only will this raise ur confidence and be on ur way out from "loser-hood" but you'll be surprised at how many girls actually respond with a smile and a hello..which means she's down to talk..women choose men from a menu of heirchy so if nobody approached her or gave u a compliment on her new highlights that day so "screw guys"..she's walking home and a guy smiles at her and says hello "nice highlights"..start thinking about marriage. If saying hi to some girls you'll never see again is something u cant do BC ur too depressed to get out of bed every day etc then antidepressants r def an option. Best wishes bro.
No... What he's saying is... If you're not a lobster, drugs won't help you clean your room.
"Pinocchio, he's a metafish"
The man should deserve a medal simply for actually making sense out of that line
I don't think there are many intellectuals who are as good at conveying their intelligence as Peterson is these days.
I think it seems like an entirely different monster to tame.
@Praxis Of Logos I hope that what i see in him is the quality of "loving his neighbor as himself." The root of that quality will be his salvation.
haha...I thought the same exact thing. Literally lol'd
“Artists discover things that they don’t even understand” This brings to me (much needed) understanding and insight. 🙏
Beautiful 💚
Having started at Peterson, then reading Jung, I realize Peterson's great genius is as a distiller of Jungian psychology so it can be understood by most people. I end up reading the same sentences in Jung three times to grasp their full significance but Peterson can elucidate Jungian concepts very well.
That’s how you know he actually understands it
Finished reading Modern Man In Search Of A Soul a few weeks back and it becomes clear how much Jung influences Peterson. Even in his humble view of the world as an observationist and clinician. Fascinating. I now tell people to read the greatest minds of the past- books! I missed a whole education while attending University. . .
"I think this is the most important thing in Jung, that he was able to point out: to the degree you condemn others and find evil in others, you are to that degree unconscious of the same thing in yourself." - Alan Watts
Jesus knew this. You see the speck in your brothers eye but don't see the log in your own is the same thing.
👏👏👏
Alan was an idiot. I stand by this.
if i hate pedos does that make my unconscious a pedo
@@reeee88 No, but it makes you just as evil in some other aspect of your unconscious.
Dr.jordan Peterson, your one of the most important people currently alive
Smug Wanker ....
English is hard.
To you. Be specific.
No he's a Conservative Prick. He sounds innovative to poorly read youngsters...check out Jung,Freud and Socrates first hand...and drop this pseudointellectual, who slips his bullshit into the mixture. Don't take what he says as Gospel for fucks sake.
@@maxinemckenzie5765 I have read Jung, Freud, Plato, Darwin, and dozens of other philosophers, psychologists, historians, etc.... and I see no justification in what you're saying.
What does he say that you disagree with?
As a troubled soul over my 55 years I am going to spend a lot of time enjoying the thoughts of these interesting people
I don't think any one person has ever made me more proud to be a Canadian. Thank-you for your teachings dr. Peterson.
colter wall?
That was the best explanation of why Soldiers can get PTSD that I ever heard. I learnt something new today. Thank you, Mr. Peterson.
You’re welcome my friend. You’re welcome…
I had been blown away by his explanation of ptsd overall in another video. I can't find it now but it was something like the strong reaction of a naive person (not a bad thing, more like innocent) to pure malevolence. This video clinches it because the soldier is discovering the malevolence in themselves. So simple, yet amazingly profound.
Dr* Peterson
@@probablyTreedENT Doctor Professor 😊
@@probablyTreedENT Mr
Can't get enough of Dr Peterson, school leaver at 14 so not easy to follow but I'm trying.
Dessie C I left school at 16 and have largely educated myself through UA-cam. Proud to say I know more than my friends that actually graduated.
Dessie C honestly keep going. you can do it. your thirst for the unknown is what's driving you and that is stronger than most people at University
I quit school halfway through the 8th grade, but I read tons of textbooks and things. I got a better education on my own than I would have in Public Schools where I live. I took the GED at 16 and aced it. Later went to Community College and took some Mechanical Engineering and other technical classes. I got 4.0 in all my classes, but ran out of money. Ended up getting a job as a mechanical technician in the engineering dept doing R&D work at a plastics company.
Good on you Dessie. Many (most?) of my university friends don't even try to follow Peterson. I learned very little of use in university, students today are learning even less. I was too busy just reacting to a hectic life to have the luxury of enough time to go deeper than keeping a budget which I rarely could stick to. Retirement has it's luxuries and a big one is the opportunity for a REAL education on the Internet.
I made it all the way through school and college and you guys are in no worse shape. There is so much information available now that you might be better off educating yourselves :) I think I've heard Jordan Peterson say so himself...
I can remember years ago in school in the 70's Jung was always described by the establishment as some kind of evil cultist similar to Crowley..
After reading the collected works of Jung I realised for myself what an amazing man he was,,still can't believe how one man can do what he did in one life time.
He was essentially trying to make sense of the alligory in the bible and doing so is to this day considered evil because according to followers of the bible its fact and history not metaphor.
@@P.Subaeruginosa those arent mutually exclusive.
@@immaculatesquid fact and metaphor? Allegory*
@@P.Subaeruginosa I would love to tell most non-believer/followers of religion that the Bible is very allegorical, filled with parables of esoteric value.
He had a lot of help, too. Marie Louis von Franz.
I've never heard anyone discuss, dissect, and interpret Pinnochio so thoroughly and artfully as this man does in the video through the lenses of history, psychology, and neurology!
I love his little smile at the end when everyone is clapping. I'm going to uni next year and Jordan was one of the people who has helped me make the decision after ten years of working.
Emma Ferguson me too.. after 23 years of working. Heres to us 👍
I'm 34 and decided to go back too
@mosesjoness I am persuing a degree in human services,I'm looking to work with at risk youth.
Bu
How's uni?
Since I began listening to these lectures something has settled deep within me. I feel more capacity to accept the dark aspects of life; in the absence of needing to deny or doubt their existence my compassion and understanding for the behavior of others has literally mushroomed. As a therapist working with severely damaged and mentally ill folks this unexpected perceptual shift has eased my load considerably. Thank you Dr. Peterson. You are brilliant. Will order your book soon.
Black Market Goodness well put sir, well pur
Exit
Spot-on.
I felt an enormous lack in understanding in the public education system for a long time, especially being a first generation American within a family that escaped tyrannical communism. So I started to have my perspective broadened after finishing an online homeschool program peppered with individual research and study, just without the ability to fully articulate and dive deep into the understandings. After persistent studying with Dr. Peterson, and friends, I would describe that ability as having mushroomed beyond levels I thought would be attainable to myself- especially it being primarily a UA-cam-playlist study course lol
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As you are a therapist, I wonder what you think of the limitations of self-help and lectures here - particularly with concern to a male dominated audience? At what point is UA-cam no longer helping but instead, facilitating?
Everytime I feel lost I search the words of Peterson. He is incredibly wise 🙏
I watched this lecture some months ago when my life was relatively ordered; I found it quite interesting. I'm now watching as my life is in absolute chaos and the knowledge within these teachings are absolutely remarkable. It feels like light pouring into me, light that fills and illuminates those unknown areas of my being.
Hope you’re doing well Lisa
This is the modern day equivalent of sitting in on a lecture from Socrates.
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Peterson opens our minds to depths hard to find in a culture reliant on superficiality. I agree.
@@JDeffenb If you mean Carl Jung, then sure.
I was thinking Jesus but Socrates is close enough. :)
Socrates was an interlocutor, not a lecturer
Deep thinking can get you into some awful despair. Thank you thank you thank Dr Peterson for so desperately scrambling to put the very meaning of life into words. As a philosophy graduate I would have said "pah the meaning of life? There is no no meaning of life" but after so many hours of DJBP, I'm starting to think he is on to something.
Reduce suffering you say? Then you are doing well Sir. I and millions of others across the globe owe you a debt of gratitude that cannot be repaid.
You are empowering. And for that, the system will never allow you to go on unencumbered. Keep marching forward brave warrior, I salute you.
Even at your lowest know that everyday, a life was improved (possibly even saved) because of you. I save my hyperbole for men like you.
I don't like red dwarf
bruh, that was Buddha, actually
who suggested reduction of unnecessary pain and suffering -
as possible meaning of life for humans
I agree with you wholeheartedly but... this is not hyperbole.
“You don’t need antidepressants, you just have a terrible life“
Jordan Peterson
But he is taking it 😂
He’s saying meds won’t help if life is simply terrible ...but he is saying meds can help if life is good but your having a hard time or season.
For him it was the wrong kind of meds.
Take ashwagandha instead
Great influence in my case: The best influence by far, in every stretch of the imagination, I should say.
He's come to say things that counter this, Both have truth though.
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This dude is so smart that it's beautiful.
He da man
Smart?? or extremely well read. There are fewer and fewer learned individuals today.
👏👏👏👏👏
@@pianoman551000 I would say both, smart and well read, and that he is very articulate which is not always the way in which one is intellectually gifted hence is why he is so appreciated.
Yassss Indeed, Beyond cool cat furr sure 🤓🦑🤩
It amazes me that I can listen to lectures of this depth and learn so much, for absolutely free. We're truly living in the golden age of knowledge.
@88Gibson LesPaul Thanks for sharing man
Watching Jordan Peterson in these lectures reminds me of the famous “This Is Not A Pipe” painting. This is not a college lecture, this is a man teaching things far beyond the necessity of the class, tests, or degree. Beyond, and deep into what we all are trying to make sense of. I have virtually no education and do not watch these as college lectures, but as life lessons. Thank you, Dr. Peterson. ❤
Wow, I've followed JBP for about 2.5 years, a similar amount of time I've been in recovery from addiction, and his deconstruction of Pinnochio resonates so much and definitely echoes some of the stuff I hear in the rooms of certain recovery fellowships.
Your work has helped me tremendously from both of your books, the self-authoring program, youtube content, and podcast series.
Thank you for helping me without you even knowing it.
Keep strong... who knows where you'll be in another 2.5 yrs...😊
Over 500,000 views. Amazing. Being able to listen to such an amazing mind for free is a miracle
Pure, authentic, challenging and out of the conventional boundaries. Keep walking Dr. Peterson. We are right behind you.
Ornela B. where are we going..?
@@AVONEUS Lemmings dont ask questions.
@@AVONEUS Searching knowledge.
I've never seen a professor get an applause after a lecture. And it was applause worthy indeed!
I just found out of his existence and feel I have wasting 30 years of my life. Thanks UA-cam for this brain food
Welcome to JBP!
You have a lot more to learn
@@thisgame2 As do you
oh Jesus! You wasted 30 years, only to be duped and waste what you have left...so fucking tragic
@@jonfungg thank you for the kind words, my friend!!!
"The probability that the system is more flawed than you, is pretty damn low." Excellent talk.
except when it isn't. Systems of men are nearly ALWAYS more flawed than any well adjusted individual as they are tailored to the donkeys and the marginalized.
Or perhaps more succinctly: Every totalitarian system is dependent on you buying off on its traits being of superior quality to yours.
First, what does he base his percentage on? Huh? Where'd that come from?
Secondly, I read somewhere that the IQ of the group is generally lower than the IQ of an individual. If this is true ie fact, seems reasonable that the system by nature outflaws the individual.
Unless he means that the system is a mirror of the individual.
I figured he meant to say that society developed over tons of years along with the evolution of people, the individual; this parallel synchronous existence implicitly means that both individual and society are the same character. Silly.
Also, I thought that group behavior research shows that people, acting as a group, do much worse things than people acting as individuals. So, ultimately, the society has to be creepier than the individual ..
Then, there is the research that proves that people, acting under the direction of an authority figure (intrinsic to the definition of a society) will do, ....is this the animus in me?
Sometimes evolution happens
Well, that will depend on what you mean by system LOL
I’m leaving behind my nihilism one day at a time. Thank you.
Even Nietzche was against nihilism and didn't consider himself one.
Would you also be leaving behind depression, and even repressed rage, self loathing, and denied notions of suicide?
@@agentofenhanced2428 sounds very high brow to me,..."will to power " and all that...
@@spiralcat2000 join the stoic group :3
@@karlm7592 on facebook Karl?
Dear Jordan,
I am truly sorry that you've sustained the affliction and wish you speedy and complete recovery. Your talks have been very insightful and enlightening. I am a 68 yo MD and I wish I could contribute to your recovery in some way. Your cognitive skills, verbal abilities and logic are refreshingly accurate and appropriate. I am also enjoying 12 Rules. God speed to good health. William Lowry
It’s amazing that you can have such love for someone you’ve never met. Jordan Peterson is the man. Thank you 🙏
I totally agree about Jung. Reading his works has given me powerful insights into my own mind and the minds of others. I'd recommend to anyone just starting to read Jung to start with his book "The Undiscovered Self". It is a powerful quick read that describes the process of individuation, which In my opinion is the road to a fulfilling and purposeful life.
Everything you need to know is right in your mirror!
@Blindi NO... morailty is not "built into us." It's man-made. Those who know about Carl Jung also know he was familiar with "Nietzsche." Though not all that "Nietzsche" professed is considered "law"... he was correct in believing that "morality" is/was man-made. We are born with primal instincts for survival. All else is derivative.
@Blindi Wild animals don't start wars; wild animals are not prejudiced; wild animals don't poison Mother Earth. Elephants and dolphins are extremely intellgent beings. When's the last time an elephant planned and executed a mass killing. Man's intellect feeds his emotional/primal instinct. He is incapable of achieving peace. "The world is a will to power and nothing besides." Calling me a "wild animal" is essentially a complement. I've never started a war; I'm not prejudiced... and I di my best not 2 poison Mother Earth. Further... u contradicted urself. U stated that morality is "built into us" then conversely stated "morality can be man-made." I think it was morality that precipitated the decision to drop the 1st atom bomb?! Warfare is not based on morality. It's based on primal instinct- to survive. It's based on natural selection- the strong vanquishing the weak- evolution. The human species evolved very quickly, intellectually... but his base emotions can never keep pace. Ergo, the intellect feeds the base emotions and makes mankind exponentially more violent and danerous. Greed for power, lust for power, vane with power, sloth with power, etc. None of these traits can be removed from then human species. Watch the 6:00 O'clock news- then tell me about the "golden rule." Was it morality that provoked the Europeans to commit genocide against the Native Americans? The largest genocide in history. The Europeans referred to the Native Americans as savages and animals because they ate with their fingers, didn't cover themselves completely with clothing, etc. If that's being an animal... count me in.
@Blindi Simple. Hmm... intriguing. Simplicity in essence, should be preferred. "Ockham's Razor"- Though intended for mathematics, Wiliam of Ockham stated (paraphrasing), the simplest solution is the best solution. Mankind lives more according to Machiavelli's rule- "The end justifies the means." Regardless of ill will towards others and any fear of consequences... by whatever means considered necessary to reach the desired goal ( the end), is acceptable. Case in point: April, 19, 1993 ( I believe), the federal gov't lay siege to David Koresh's compound... knowing that innocent children would perish- "the end justified their means." Koresh was killed and the commune was ended- but innocent children were killed. To the hierarchy of those the people give power to, those losses (dead children), were and remain acceptable. "Morality"... the golden rule. Surrrr... and I'm Peter Pan living in "Never Never Land."
@BlindiLol
These lectures are the shelter for my ever wandering divergent mind. This synthesis of... basically everything, is what recalibrated me. Ideas make sense now.
Amen
Ивана Степанов Свркота you have a lovely mind, and are lovely indeed. 😊
That's a great way to sum up listening to Jordan Peterson. I go back and listen to Peterson when I find myself a bit lost. He recalibrates my mind. Perfect word. Peterson needs to recalibrate the world.
When I was a schoolgirl in England, I went to school in Birmingham - I lived in the country outside of the city and had to take one of those big red double-decker buses back and forth every day I used to sit UPSTAIRS and DAYDREAM the whole journey. I was 13. Some time during those years, I discovered JUNG. "MEMORIES, DREAMS & REFLECTIONS" he told the story of how he would DAYDREAM on the bus - what he'd see and how out-of-his-body he woud go! Many times, he'd miss his stop. I was hooked! He's been my dude ever since. A few years ago, I found my other DUDE. Every 6 months or so I watch him - just to re-educate myself. Jordan is so 'out of the realm" - when I hear him speak, I understand what he's saying - but if I had to REPEAT it to anyone, seconds later, I wouldn't be able to 'get my head around it'. For instance, he said "From a Jungian perspective, a lot of the forces that ancient people considered 'deities' were personified representations of "instinctual" systems". RIGHT! I KNOW what he means, but I couldn't TELL YOU! He's a brilliant mystery I LOVE HIM!
Well I found your comment quite enrapturing.
I think he meant that inside of us we have functions that we repeatedly go to so as to function. Just imagine why it is difficult to stop thinking just for a minute. All the time the mind might be analysing running these functions, on the look out for trouble and danger and opportunity.
I think the reason why it might be difficult to express to people is because most of the times it might involve our desires. Our desires occur frequently enough from our mind's eye but they don't have a platform in open society, and so lack precedence or patterns of speaking about them. What Jordan is doing, imo, is establishing such patterns by speaking in a language that you already "know". If you think about what he says deeply enough, you can express it sufficiently to another.
Love
Please don't put him on a pedestal. I mean, I can't stop admiring both the coherence and creativity in his rhetoric, but instead of just glorifying him, I strive to reach that clarity in my own expression. C'mon, try and explain to me what you inderstood. Is it the personification lf the hypothalamic functions? What is it? You wanna emulate Peterson? Just copy his approach to disposition...give yourself to verbalizing an insight..your sincerety will bring clarity in the words. Also, thorough knowledge can help:)
Omg!! I experienced that too when I was little like 7 years old!
This man is moments away from turning into a blinding light.
I have a problem with Dr Peterson: After listening to a good number of his lectures, almost everything else seems dull and uninteresting.
Cool, me too. Apparently, JP pitches his lectures in exactly the right place - the zone of proximal development (Lecture 4) ;-)
Same or similar thing happens to excellent therapists; those who have done their own work, and those who themselves are greatly moved by the "performance" of depth psychotherapy. It seems that other conversations, about nearly anything and everything, especially in regard to everyday living, about so-called small talk, which most talking is, everywhere - as it were - are all rather boring in comparison.
@@user-hz5yb4bh5v I'm just a stoner who kinda fucked up his life but I find most people just want to talk about sports and complaining. I have extreme trouble in my life searching for an interesting conversation.
This new generation doesn't know movie quotes,. Nobody even knows who Jay and silent Bob are anymore. It's like I'm living in a different universe.
I find it extremely troubling that nobody around me cares about anything that has depth or meaning.
I can't imagine how bad it is for an intellectual.
Same problems.
Seems to be a good problem lol
His lectures have so many layers! New insights every time I listen.
Is it strange that I feel nostalgic returning to these videos? I stumbled upon Peterson's lectures after graduating high school and his influence in my life cannot be underestimated. I've since decided to major in psychology with intent to attain a graduate degree in clinical psychology. I'm working on my BA in psychology now! Thank you Mr. Peterson!
The way you speak is so beautiful to me Dr Peterson, thank you
Jordan. I am an older, very experienced male Registered Nurse who just started working in the Psychiatric area about 2 years ago. I still consider myself new to that area. I've done a lot of study in psychology and philosophy as well as many other areas during my lifetime. Just a very curious person overall. I just discovered you. Have been looking for an explanation for the recent divide in our country between liberals and conservatives, Trump, identity politics, etc etc. I really like your ideas and they are making me see things from a whole new perspective. You are obviously very bright! Thanks man!
He practices what he preaches. He confronted what was bugging him - Bill C16. And the chaotic unknown from confronting such a complex and serious problem propelled him into the stratosphere of success.
He also checked himself in for rehab. Many used this fact to bash him. But admitting that you need help is bloody difficult and requires exceptional humility.
As I understand it his wife got very ill (she’s better now). The medicine Dr. Peterson was prescribed with during the long duration he was coping with her illness had an adverse effect on his health and that is why he needed help getting it out of his system. I find it admirable that he is dealing with this unfortunate circumstance the way he is and I am praying for him and his family for things to get back to normal. He has helped a lot of people already and if it becomes necessary for him to take it easy, so be it.
I am disappointed at the negative reaction from some quarters, for example, Rogan, who should know better. What Dr. Peterson deserves is understanding.
this checks out
Joy Planta agree with everything you said. Rogan loves Peterson just got into gossip mode with some dumbass guest and they both kinda looked likes dicks for talking about stuff of which they know nothing. Peterson checking himself into rehab made me love him even more, he’s a man of his word.
When I did an extended effort at lucid dreaming, I became aware enough in my dreams to ask my dream characters what they meant. It didn't seem to help me that much at the time. In the long run it has helped with the serious question of 'What is the nature of personal and non-personal reality?'
Thank you for recording your lectures. Wonderful.
imagine sitting down for a lecture like this on day one at University and thinking to yourself; "damn, this is going to be a good year."
Doctor Peterson is a massive threat to those lost souls who are eaten up with resentment, anger, fear and jealousy. It is their own moral and intellectual weakness that leads them to blame everyone but themselves for their own failings. Doctor Peterson teaches that we must first look to ourselves for solutions and not to blame others for our own limitations.
chevaldechamp You describe the post modernists so well!
An interesting by-product of your understanding on this topic is that you distance yourself from "those" people and take a superiour stance, how do you defend your superiour stance without presenting your own beliefs as an absolute truth? And if your beliefs are an absolute truth how come you are a minority in this thought process?
I am not bashing you for your stance, but I am hugely interested in above questions because I feel exactly the same.
...or maybe is he is the best friend to those lost souls. He exposes their own self destructive behaviors and gives them the tools to change.
chevaldechamp collectivists beware!
@@ddevulders The first step is to do everything in your power not to feel a sense of superiority. One of the most foundational tenants of Yung is to be sure to approach every encounter assuming that there is something they know that you don't. If you close your mind to the concept of doing what you can to either maintain a dialogue or try to push your "beliefs" on people, especially that demographic, your approach is going to fail.
Just try to maintain wise. Wisdom is something like taking something positive from all experiences. Best of luck.
Been following Mr. Peterson's lectures for a couple months and there's so much information to process. I've reviewed lectures multiple times to get everything. I've decided to finally comment so that I can share something he said that really resonates with me:
"...One of the reasons to be educated, from a literary and historical perspective, is that you can come to understand what you already know. Because if you don't understand it then there's an element of your being, the element that knows it an acts it out, and there's another element which is sort-of you as a personality, that are completely at odds with one another. And that makes you weak - it makes you something that's divided within itself."
Thanks so much for posting these lectures!
Dawson Clawson that stuck out to me too.
I really thought that part was insightful too, it speaks of a common psychological mechanism that underlies dysfunctional behavior in so many of us
But you will never understand intellectually all the things you know (though you can structure them toward efficient utilization). I will use an extreme example to demonstrate what I mean: You can grasp the concept of infinity but you know that you will never understand it. Why do humans seem to instinctively develope a concept of something which they know they cannot understood? Similarly you feel yourself as a personality but I don't think that you can intellectually grasp either the "self" or what constitutes your personality. Even with a profound understanding of psychology it's just a like sketch drawing. It can effectively describe some of the mechanics and patterns, but never the whole thing. Life is to be lived, not everything can be dissected. The unknown will always remain...
DimljenaRiba
Good insight. Consider worry and anxiety...two elements of our human existence that we blindly accept as part of human reality and experience. However, neither can be demonstrably proven. All we can do is use description and experience in an attempt to identify with the “reality” of such. Both are fallacious “gods” that we create, in an attempt to achieve identity and possess with reward. We create these, and others, ....dread ,regret, fears, joy, peace of mind..whatever...in an attempt to believe that through these, we somehow achieve purpose and identity. So...what is our reality?
Mr. C yep, constructivism! I would say that's one of our best attempts on looking at things.
Listening to jordan overtime has helpedme heal. I can't hardly believe this man exists. A godsend. He gives of himself so freely to all. Is he the proverbial one that enlightens and inspires the jews to understand the logic of Christianity?
The world needs truth. Thanks Jordan for being a conduit..... it’s been a long time coming... and desperately so
Dr. Peterson's public speaking skills are impeccable. His ability to confidently, fluidly share his organic thoughts and ideas is nothing short of amazing. It's one thing to be smart, it's another thing to speak well(in public or not) and when those two abilities are combined you have something very special.
For about the past year I have been watching and re-watching every Jordan Peterson video I have found. I never grow tired of this and gain new insights each time I listen or watch. It's hard to comment (without going into an actual essay) due to the complexity of any given lecture. I find this channel infinitely valuable.
The discussion of Pinocchio strikes a chord because it was the first movie I loved as a child. He brings such clarity to the meaning of a story that I thought I knew well. I almost feel as though he translated my previous un-named experience of the film into coherent words.
I feel the same. I can listen to his videos again and again. He is the modern story-teller.
I watched the movie several times as a child, but when it was time to watch with it with my children I did it once, I found it kind of nightmarish so I decided not to let them watch anymore. But Peterson's interpretation opened my eyes that there was more than the frightening part, so it is interesting to listen to his correlations with psychology, myths and history.
Has this lecture helped you in everyday life ?
me too and im 57
@@tjpm right? I was waiting 4 the person to answer. I'll keep these videos on a continuous loop, if they help my everyday life.
To become truly evolved is to listen to Jordan Peterson. He breaks down concepts that are very complex in a way that most of us can understand. Thank you!!
He says how bad things are and may be, - and answers what we can do and make instead.
He's compassionate, loving and humorous, - serious, fierce and dangerous.
He speaks exactly and carefully, - as well as swearing, slanging and being colloquial
He tells us about the shadow we evade, - and the light that awaits us beyond our fear of it.
Just want to extend a thanks to you professor Peterson for sharing your lectures with the world. I read "The Denial of Death" by Ernest Becker when I was seventeen and the ideas I was exposed to by Mr. Becker changed me...and perhaps not for the better. Becker really put me in an existential funk that I have been clawing my way out of for an entire decade....Rilke, Kierkegaard, Rank, Jung, Laing, Blake and so many other passionate thinkers have been the light that guided me and now I can add your name to that list of people whose ideas have been the reason I continue to love life and fight on! Thanks again
I (tried to) read the denial of death too years ago, it gave me some insights, but as the book progressed I had to put it down because I did not fully comprehend it, and I didn't know if reading it further would've benefited me. I think I have a better shot at it thanks to these lectures :)
Dude I recently discovered Rainer Rilke and read his duino elegies as well as his letters to a young poet. Very deep stuff that made me appreciate the divine even more. A wonderful poet for mankind :)!
Regarding how much self-esteem you should have: "You shouldn't think you're more competent than you are. You shouldn't think you're less competent than you are. You should think you're AS competent as you are." So simple, so sensible... and yet, so ignored by the majority.
Mostly, though it may actually pay off to slightly overestimate your competence, as it will make you try new things within achievable range. And the attempt will include learning, thus becoming as good as you thought you were.
But how does one do that for themselves. How do I know how accurate my measurment of my own competence is?
that's the problem; there is no test and most people have no idea how to measure it
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It's not necessarily ignored as easier said than done i think
Superb as ever, what a joy to listen to Dr Jordan Peterson. It's good that these older lectures from his university days are available for all of us to learn from. Dr Peterson is a great educator, a gift to mankind that keeps on giving.
I just can’t handle the fact that these lectures are fleshing out in the most crystal clear the problems of humanity, the wisdom embedded in these lectures are priceless and revolutionary.
Man he looks so much healthier in 2019! And many more years and decades of health we wish for him.
You've jinked him bruh 🙏🙏🙏
I am transfixed by this man. I listen, I try to understand, I do a little. Jordan has a staggering intellect. As someone who is absorbed in the study of Nietzsche, I adore every lecture by Jordan.
Trance State taking notes while listening can help a lot if you can't remember or understand some of what he says
That's because he simplifies to numbskulls like yourself
@@KimPhilby203 Your comment is by far the dumbest and most rude of all comments on this page, which clearly illustrates that you have none of the superior intellect you imply you have.
... and he makes his thoughts so understandable.
Thank you so much Dr. Peterson for these lectures and being humble about it.
i almost feel like Jordan Peterson's experiencing a jungian journey of self exploration and revelation right now. I wish him the best
I just LOVE the way you illustrate the symbolism, using Disney movies! :-) I have been doing the same, but nobody thus far seemed to "get it"! :-) Jung also mentioned "the alchemy of opposites" in his work. And that - to me - is beautifully displayed in 'Beauty & The Beast', in which 'the rose' represents 'the Heart'. The scene in which she tries to touch it, is priceless!! :-) Also, in "Mulan", there is so much symbolism (the dragon representing the 'fears', huge at first, but very small afterwards), then 'the training' with the perfect song "be a man", referring to the necessity for Mulan to "integrate the animus". And the very best: she gets sent home, and when does she find the Truth? At NIGHT, "in the unconscious".... and when day breaks, she throws the arrow at her teacher's feet, who even walks out of a tent, with the Ourobouros painted on it!! :-) Oh oh, and finally, in 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame', there is a scene in which Esmeralda is locked up in the church, and then she starts praying. From the lyrics, it sounds as if she prays to "the typical patriarchal punishing 'god'-archetype", but when she looks up, she seems to be talking to "the Mother & child", 'the feminine principle'.
Maybe I'm a little over-enthusiastic with these Disney-films, but here I have finally found a partner in crime, haha! :-) Lovely lectures, thanks again! :-) The world needs more of this type of education! :-)
Arcadian Wings your right on 🔥
a little??!! Disney is a "Will to power and nothing besides!" Symbolism you refer to is nearly part of every story, whether written, acted, filmed, improvised, etc. Disney is a very EVIL corporation.
Arcadian Wings I’m interested in hearing what you have to say about Beauty & The Beast and the alchemy symbolism in it
Wow! Your lectures are so amazingly rich and packed with information and at the same time, this rich content is presented in a format that is relatively easy to access and hopefully understand. I am so deeply grateful for your generosity to make these videos available to us. Thanks!
Arash Toyseri
So much profundity here. Enough to chew on for years. This is my second time listening. Love JP.
Peterson sold me on Jung. As someone who daydreams to the point of pursuing an artistic career to represent some of those dreams, that there is a sense in which great stories are real is truly inspiring.
That breakdown of Pinocchio is mind blowing
He has a lecture where he breaks down the entire movie over multiple hours. I recommend it
@@WillChaseIV my unit
Pinocchio becoming conscious and realizing something was pulling his strings and going on a journey to find his authenticity and independence is a direct metaphor for what it’s like to have a spiritual awakening. Once you realize you’re creating it, it’s easy to get lost because there’s no map once you realize you don’t have to follow one. Do you pursue pleasure, fame, or something more meaningful? Excellent spiel
What did you decide?
What a great lecture, I love how you make Jung proud by giving his dead body life again for the youth through his consciousness.
Peterson is amazing! He drove me into a journey of self reflection and philosophical interpretation of my life so far through simple but meaningful stories. Hats off to you Jordan Peterson
I can't stop listening your lectures. They are so inspiring and full of knowledge.
Truely Brilliant delivery...thank you for the honor Mr. Peterson.
Mr. Peterson's body language, and facial language as he begins a take-off, of his previous thought, merging into his next continuous thought process in speaking is awesomely instinctual, BEAUTUL.
I have always craved learning. So much to be curious about. So many whys. I searched and sought and struggled to answer the Why. I fought through a lot of self education, decades of reading as much as I could, writing libraries of thoughts. Then I found your lectures and so much was tied together and my understanding blossomed in astounding ways. Truly, deeply, thank you for sharing.
Three minutes in and I think this is the best I've ever heard from Jordan Petersen.
Thank you Dr. Peterson. You are making me a better person every day.
This can teach a lot of people a lot about life and the true nature of the mind. I'm glad that so many people watched it.
Thank you for introducing me to Carl Jung. Something no so-called teacher, instructor or professor has ever done. I only wish I had discovered him some 40 years ago - it would have changed my career path I am sure.
I’m so glad the SJWs introduced me to your BRILLIANCE. Proves how narrow minded some people can be
28:30...Dr. Peterson reminded me of a statement from Alfred Hitchcock when the director was asked to define drama. "Life...with all the boring parts removed." Which is why good fiction is more of a representation of reality than banal "reality" Tee Vee.
I wish this man had stayed with these brilliant lectures instead of entering the world of politics and celebrity.
Prof. Peterson does take his Pinocchio VERY seriously!
What a pleasure to dive into the sub-conscious world with him.
I’m learning SO MUCH! I Thank GOD for this man
I relax by listening to these lectures. There are some things I have to look up and write down but the insight here has helped me become inspired about learning and changing my way of thinking and living.
This man is a blessing to the world.
I do not have the words to properly express my gratitude for what you do Mr. Peterson. To have a person as intelligent and eloquent and also rational as you posting these lectures for free is absolutely ASTONISHING. I wish you and your family long and healthy lives and that in that lifetime you may know and see the good you've done for this world. Thank you thank you thank you!!! A million times thank you!!!
“You’re not depressed I just have a terrible life. Which is NOT the same thing as being depressed.” This might be the most beautiful throwaway comment I’ve ever heard
In my opinion one of the very finest of JBP's excellent Personality Lectures. I particularly enjoy that it so obvious when he looks up and waits for inspiration as to the next words to say that he is being supported by more than his own wisdom resources, just as Jung was in his active imaginings. As a fan of Jung I have watched this lecture several times and always learn more..
I remember watching these lectures in 2017 and struggling to understand this talk of "archetypes” and the "unknown". I got out of a rough patch and he did for me what he has done for so many and helped me build upward.
Now I’m a college student with a great gpa, great career opportunities and a wonderful committed relationship. I have a goal, and an ideal. He also helped me be more conscious and aware of the world around me and just generally make me more knowledgeable.
With love from the Buckeye State!
Think of archetypes of a pattern of behavior/values embodied to their logical conclusion.
How can I thank you for sharing this great content free for all of us?! Amazing.
Thank you Dr Jordan Peterson and Carl Jung's lecture on knowing and the depth of the unknown. Behavior patterns and the depth of the psyche, evolution psychology- B.F Skinner on habits.
17:56 I like this approach to depression versus life being hard.
The speech in your lectures is so truthful, and heartfelt and motivational. It just astounds me that even when we know the things that you share with us, it's still obscenely difficult to get through this life. Thank you so very very much for all you do and what you share with us. A couple of things that I already knew, but hurt again from you and your words tonight, " a goal once achieved no longer motivates". "What you share will multiply, what you withhold will diminish". Thanks again!
Third time I am listening to this lecture, it is just such a very fulfilling time to spend, so much food for thought, thanks Jordan