The Mk I Martini Henry: Musketry of the Martini Era - Introduction
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"They've got a very good bass section mind, but no top tenors thats for sure..."
Easy with the references to that film please... 🙂
@@britishmuzzleloaders You slovenly soldier, Hitch.🤣🇦🇺
Michael caine: "60! We dropped about 60, wouldn't you say?"
Gert van den bergh: "that leaves only 3,940"
Excellent stuff! I’m particularly impressed that the twins apparently generate their own individual wind patterns...
I know,... shhh. It's their little secret. 🙂
Perhaps it's self generated wind and dependent upon who ate what....
seen a martini henry at an antique shop it was so rusty I almost cried
You should have rescued her.
@@richardhillman9745 with their prices didn't have a chance(they didn't post it nor willing to tell me they were very rude
Horrible...
The musketry course, upon which the sun never sets. Great video, as always!
Thank you!
I've been reading the Sharpe novels and this channel has become an incredible source to learn how British soldiering was really done! Thank you so much for the awesome work you do.
You are most welcome!
What, no exaggerated leaning-in while holding 3 cartridges in your support hand? :D
That's part of the Martini mime presentation, "Man Shooting Against the Wind".... by Marcel Marceau.
@@britishmuzzleloaders will you be entering a martini henry Kasada Drill Brutality?
I think it would illustrate the actual differences with modern firearms in use.
@@michelguevara151 Maybe... 🙂
"Hope this gives a brief understanding"
30 minute video....
God I love this channel
Glad to hear!
Bought Neil's book on your suggestion. Best money spent in quite some time. Great stuff, as always.
It's the best book on the subject for sure.
I came here from C&Rsenal. I love old school weapons and this channel is awesome.
Welcome along!
From formal individual scoring for rank/rate to practical training at the Squad/Platoon level. Well done good sir, I now have a greater appreciation for that era of musketry.
Thank you! More to follow for sure.
@@britishmuzzleloaders ^~^ I await your pleasure kind sir.
As usual, very informative and entertaining! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Rob. Great video as always. The background is beautiful!
Cheers!
Great job. Keep this valuable information alive. Keep up the good work, your hard work is so important. Thanks for everything.
Thank you! You are most welcome!
Excellent as usual! Loved the sound effect for the bullet impact on the plate.
Funny enough, it was of a bullet hitting a plate... 🙂
@@britishmuzzleloaders There was a certain comic element to it, maybe the timing and context! :)
Love this. Watched it several time. So interesting. Well done! Your research is excellent and so thorough. Cannot thank you enough for this presentation
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
Great stuff, as always. Thanks for this.
You are most welcome. Cheers.
man I love your stuff, always cheers me up,very educational keep it up!
Glad to hear it!
There was once a range like the ones you describe near me (bristol, UK) on the banks of the river severn. I used to go there as a boy and dig old rounds out of the grass-covered berms. unfortunately, a couple years back the berm area was flattened and flooded to make way for a wetland nature reserve. thankfully the one of the shooting positions survived.
Cool!
As usual, some fantastic work there.
Thank you!
Excellent video. It's a very specific topic, but covered well enough for everyone to understand it and it's much more interesting that it may look like at first glance
Glad you enjoyed it!
another fine video
Awesome! Beautiful scenery also.
Thank you!
With a five round magazine, LOAD!
Oops, too early.
Yup....
As always, I enjoy your videos not just because of the firearms which I love but the rich history.
Cheers!
Great video as usual sir. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
@@britishmuzzleloaders your welcome sir. I'm not getting regular notifications for your videos so I gotta keep a eye out for them. But I sure enjoy them. I wanna get a Martini Henry for my own collection and there's a company down in georgia in the USA that got a huge huge supply of them but $800 american outta my budget right now. Lol plus everything I need for reloading. But someday I'll have one. Lol Have a great up coming week ,stay safe and keep your powder dry. Sir
This was most excellent
Thank you.
I'm always floored by the amount of detail and research you put into these
Very kind.
Great content sir.
Thank you!
"That's gettin' worse: now there is two of them!"
Haha!
I do like the spliced together shots, very fun
Glad you enjoyed it!
i just cant help but find this so interesting...and im not a gun person or musketry enthusiast. thank you Canadian. :-) love the dedication. mho
Thank you kindly!
Love your videos bud!
Glad you like them!
Rob, Bloke and Othias sitting in a tree, F-...-I-R-I-N-G.
Hope you three get to meet up in 2022 for some historic gun content.
You forgot Ian.
Wouldn't that be great!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Othias sounded absolutely gutted that yourself and Bloke have been unable to make incursions into the Revolutionary's territory.
@@leighrate Ian can supply a Bren gun
Another great video.
Thank you!
Love your vids 👍🏻
Thank you!
Great video
Thanks!
Interesting episode Rob. I remember our range shoots in the NE of Scotland. Small military ranges with the sea beyond the butts. Not too dissimilar in the 1980s to the 1880s! Shooting at Fort George was usually excellent, with many modern innovations allowing for more complex evolutions. I even managed to make the Bn 24 one year, at our BASSAM competition.
Glad you enjoyed it Chris!
Good show keep it up
Thank you!
@@britishmuzzleloaders No problem
Very interesting video.
Sidenote: Thats a real nice mountain in the background during the first minute of the video
Cheer
I like martini Henry's and all that but WHAT A BACKDROP!!!! stunning
Nice vid
Thanks!
@@britishmuzzleloaders welcome. I have a Mk4 from the Nepalese cache myself. But unfortunately can't fire it because I'm British. Kinda ironic eh? Lol
I could imagine that ever since the fire at will command was introduced someone in the line would have said “that’s very kind “ or similar
The command being "Independent Firing - Commence!"
The sarcasm of Chaucer was taken from the characteristics of English folk. I would bet that in the late 14thC on a battlefield in a France or England there was a comment of “Many thanks “ when the independent firing command was given
Crotch hits all, good show chap! Maximum points!
Haha!
I wonder if I will ever run into this guy while quadding around the British Columbian mountains...🤔
Maybe?
Hello my man, do you have a video of the Martini used by the Ottomans in WW1?
As always, thank you for these videos.
No I do not. Sorry.
I really feel like joining the Gordons. There is a WW1 re-enactment society in Scotland and I think my grandfather (14th battalion Royal Irish Rifles) would approve. All I have to do is get back to the gym, tone up, slim down and present myself to the recruiting sergeant when things get back to normal.
Off you go then! Cheers.
I've always wanted a Martini-Henry. Sad that most of the ones I run across looked like they dragged across the Kashmir province behind a horse or cut up, modified, etc. Here in the US they get some notice, but everyone wants a trapdoor Springfield or a Sharps, the Martini is just not high on the list and the prices are all over the map.
They are great pieces for sure!
Most of the ones at minimal price are not the pristine examples, or even shooter grade, that we would like, but are the Nepalese copies IMA or someone imported a while back. IMA has a number of British ones for sale currently, but asking upwards of $1,500 for some!
Are you interested in and have older muskets like the 1st pattern brown bess? I seen your intro for the india pattern and really enjoyed it. Would love to see some content on that if so. Big fan thanks for the awesome videos!
To me, the Bess is a Bess. They'll all shoot the same and had the same battlefield effectiveness. In keeping a link with the later arms on the Channel, the India Pattern is immediate predecessor to the percussion muskets and the main weapon of the Napoleonic Wars so that is why it is here. Cheers!
@@britishmuzzleloaders I agree. I just like the nuances of the early flintlocks I suppose. Pre pattern like 1680-1715. Thanks for the quick reply!
indian mutiny...youre thoughts on the small arms and their attendant strenghts and shortfallings?
That's a whole video.... The Enfield was what it was, and the percussion muskets were a damned sight less effective. 🙂
I have one of the few issued Mk1 MH in Canada, marked MC on the butt. Dated 1873 and has a checkered steel butt plate
So do I!
@@britishmuzzleloaders from what I've read only 100
@@HypocriticYT There were 2100 purchased. "Defending the Dominion"
@@britishmuzzleloaders yes there were but only 100 issued to RMC. The rest stayed in stores.
@@HypocriticYT Edgecombe indicates that there were rather more than 100 in total issued out, though not in any great number. Regimental rifle teams and other shooting associations received some as well to enable them to compete with the remainder of the Empire. In addition, some were evidently issued to the ISC and the 90th Bn for the '85 Rebellion according to the author.
Would you be able to do a review of the british uniform from the movie breaker Morant set during the second Boer war
Not really a uniform Channel, but in the context of the MLE, there will eventually be mention of the kit worn in South Africa.
Fantastic video as always! I have a question though, have you ever been out and about in the world and been recognized by a fan?
Once, in England.
Men of Harlech, stop your dreaming...
In one version, yes,...
Remote brutality 2021. Hi blam. I was really hopping you would take remote brutality 2021 to task !! With perhaps a baker rifle. ??!! Ps great content as always
Just uploaded...
A breach loader on the muzzle loader channel? Outrageous! ;)
This is the thin end of the wedge I tell you, next Rob will be uploading magazine rifle videos.
I know, right?! I'll bring the torches, you grab the pitchforks.
What's next? Teutonic rifles in calibres measured in millimetres?
Good day sir,
I have recently come into possesion of a khyber pass """enfield""" martini henry and the loading lever does not like to lock up in the stock recess with ease, are there any historical remedies for that?
Does it go, but only with some persuasion? Does it fully seat but then flops down?
It goes with some persuasion, luckily it does not flop down
This was very excellent and i've watched many of your videos incommended before. However to my surprise it did not occur to me about the men's hearing. Some firing positions I would be very bad such as the one man behind another. The rear man actually firing over the front man's shoulder. But then I saw it about it in the history of firing weapons must have had a noted effect on people's hearing. Even as the weapons improved. You may have answered this before and I may have missed the answer. Or was it not a concern of the upper ranks to sink of the average man's medical condition, including hearing?
Or degraded site. Modern day firing at a range We use hearing and I protection. However it appears the rank and file through history unneglected are neglected in each areas. Is there any historical contact for this.
There was no hearing protection.... There was no eye protection. Militarily, ear protection is a late 20th century thing, while eye pro is very much a 21st century thing.
Will there be a kilted #remotebrutality2021 vid coming soon??
Maybe.....
Yes!
Fascinating stuff, I did not expect to be this engaged watching a video on Martini Henry Musketry. Looking forward to seeing more
Glad you enjoyed it!
nice introduction
Thanks
Well done Sir; good turn out in Highland Kit, by the way. Although, too much time on musketry drills in your moving picture. LOL
Mark my words, Sir next war will be with naval brigades armed with gardner guns 🇬🇧
Always enjoy your channel, thank you! Take care.
"Too much time on drills,.. LOL...?" Sorry, not following.
@@britishmuzzleloaders sorry just my attempt at a joke. Love your channel, and thank you for all the hard work and research.
Great job
@@garryhynds4870 Sorry,... couldn't see through the blunt medium of the "YT Comment".... 🙂 Cheers!
There is something just so satisfying in the Martini action, you can just feel the power. Much like cycling a pump shotgun.
Sure thing!
Can we get a Kaskarda drill with that?
Yes.
Interesting, there are also the variations for artillery, garrison artillery with the carbine and red patched reduced load ammunition, the 4ft square red and green iron square with upper slide supporting a chain and target, targets of mounted horse being of about 5 inches in height of paper on wood etc. Fun stuff, beware the 1850s steel scandal for use of artillery and Sargent's yataghan bayonet in drill, they can bend like a banana.
Yes there was Carbine ammunition... not quite sure of what you are talking about regarding the "4ft red and green"....
@@britishmuzzleloaders garrisson artillery often used their own ditches as ranges, with their own targets. The large ranges were built for infantry, volunteers etc, the shortfall of hythe and publications is, they dont cover all arms, unit variation for specific circumstance of service, no point drilling infantry on a 32pdr c pivot or use of firing steps unless in a fort for defence.
I'd no idea that the old ranges and targets were still knocking about. Going to have to find out if there's any near me.
That'd be a fun pastime!
Nothing like this action, you do feel like an extra in the Zulu movie when you work it.
“ And a bayonet, with some guts behind it”
Indeed.
If a ricochet hits center, why would it not count? Were the cartridges loaded by the shooter and thus failed w/ reloading?
Ammunition was made in a factory.
@@britishmuzzleloaders But why does a ricochet hitting the target not count? Is it assumed that the bullet came from another shooter shooting the wrong target?
@@JohnDoe-ff2fc Because you didn't actually hit the target with the shot you were aiming at it,.... you hit the ground...
@@britishmuzzleloaders Ahhh, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.
Really glad to see someone introduce the notion of "Army fighting doctrine" when discussing weapons ! It makes much more sense to discuss a weapon when you know they were "supposed" to be used !
Glad you agree!
27:15. In the background is playing The Grenadiers’ Slow March. For me, the highlight of the annual Trooping The Colour in London is when the band plays this. If you leaves you unmoved, you are already dead.
Indeed!
Imagine a company or battalion volley of Martini Henry fire
It would have been impressive, though it would have ben the same as a volley fired with any other BP arm.... 🙂
Have said it at least a hundred times: awesome and many thanks for the amazing content
Glad you enjoy it! Very kind.
Great, informative, video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sectional long range volley fire is the steam punk machine gun.
Nice one Rob, keep em comming.
Yes, it was.
Ok here I am watching a guy wearing a skirt and talking about an old rifle...and I am loving it!
Glad to hear,... you'll understand the kilt eventually. 🙂
@@britishmuzzleloaders We're lucky you have the legs for it 🤣
Great presentation Rob, I was lucky enough to shoot at the Hythe & lydd ranges while on camp with the TA during the 1980s, they even had a range designed to teach sqaddies how to recognize the sounds different weapons made inside one of the Martello towers ! You could feel the history in the place.
Indeed. Haven't shot there, but took a picture of the towers from the beach.
I think you got the sound right, one of my favorite parts of shooting a martini. Thanks for the target info it's nice to know what was expected in the day.
Cheers!
Hit what you aim at. Great video!
Cheers!
Oh no, now there are two of them!
Always has been
Yup.
A good reason for moving to the Full Figure from the Bulls Eye would be to give the troops more opportunity to view man-sized objects at known ranges.
Of course,... that said, there was plenty of "judging distance" at the real thing as part of training.
Also prepares new recruits for the real thing, which would scramble the brain to an extent. If they are trained "man shape... shoot" It would become instinctive. Under pressure you need automated responses.
@@user-rd1hd3ww1b Sure. It was an imperfect application of the concept, as mentioned in the video... Things got much better after the Boer War with figure targets used as aiming marks and stand alone targets for (nearly) all shooting.
And learn where to aim on the figure to maximize the hit possibility. "Tulta munilie!" :-D
My....Gosh man this was an....Excellent video....Thanks very much from a ...80 year old man down here in Kentucky.....!
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.
Good video good renactment very accurate
Not so much a re-enactment... just the history of musketry.
So I had a martini Henry that got chucked as it would not group. It was a 45 musket not 45 70 and shot a hard lead for African game. But that was years ago. I’ve now got a Parker hale that was shot smooth with paper rounds. It has no value if it will not shoot. So I’ve now built a machine that I can recut and Re polishing my rifling. On the dining room
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Great salvage effort!
the 5 dislikes are people who can't shoot at 800
Or two, for that matter.
Hahah!
I know it varied considerably by time and place but I'd be interested to know how much marksmanship the average infantryman got after posting to his unit. During the same era some United States soldiers on the frontier were firing as little as five rounds per year in practice. According to an article on history.net, prior to the Little Big Horn debacle the government allocated only 20 rounds per man per year for training and much of that was used shooting game. It's pretty common for armies to do one thing on paper and another in reality.
The amount of ammunition issued per man is given in the video for a comparative example. The actual Annual Qualification will be covered in upcoming videos.
Hard to understand why they spent so much money and effort on elaborate uniforms for ordinary soldiers in those days. Imagine having to wear all that stuff in the Sudan or Crimea.
Lots of things from the past are somewhat out of place with today's sensibilities... 🙂
Oh wow, I love all the martini henry content
More to come!
Крутий канал! Дуже цікаві відео. Дізнаюся тут багато нового. Дякую!
Cheers.
They're not moving so fast any more.
Nope.
when will we see the next episode of inkerman
exactly
Third’d
When it's done. Working regularity on it.
@@britishmuzzleloaders its a brilliant series, thats why we all asking lol,,, the detail, maps terrain detail, is better than anything ive seen,, hope you do the same for alma and balaclava,, id happily wait years
Oh yes! Looking forward to the next exciting installment.
Come listen to my story lads there’s news from oversea,
The Camel Corps hath held their own and gained a victory!
Weep not me boys for those who fell, they did not flinch nor fear,
They stood their ground like Englishmen and died at Abu Klea!
( I have been to see Colonel Burnaby’s obelisk in Birmingham UK I left a poppy pushed the stem into a crack so it did no blow away)
Well placed!
11:27 I swear that the sgt closest to the camera looks like you. Or maybe it’s the moustache sir 😂
Never seen him....
Watching this got me thinking about if only current global events allowed you to host other people to have competition between a Martini-Henry, a Springfield 1873, a French Gras 1874, A Berdan Rifle, an Italian 1870 Vetterli, and a Mauser 1871 as to see whose Army had the best single shot black powder rifle in a hypothetical great war that breaks out in like 1877...
The Remington Rolling Block and the Werndl .How did you forget the Remington Rolling Block and the Werndl .
@@oolooo because I didn’t know about the Werndl and didn’t know the Remington Rolling Block was issued as a military rifle.
@@Tadicuslegion78 Really ? .
You did not know about the Werndl and that the Remington Rolling Block was the most widely sold Military Firearm ever ? .
@@oolooo To be fair, the Remington was only used by minor militaries, as every great power ended up passing on it.
@@genericpersonx333 France ? .The nordic countries ? .Spain ? .All small ? .
those guns are too slow. Comparing with Winchester 73 :fast shooting, ammo tube. Real handed machine gun. Also Range is shorter than Sharps 74.
Beside i like your skirt
Sure.
Just watch out for those Jezail bullets...
No kidding!
The muggers must be using boost technology. 800->200 yards!
I know!
400m in 13 seconds. A good horse on gallop would do it in 16. Fast indeed, i hope it's not infantry, the current record is 43 and dusts...
Or your officer needs to refine his rangefinding. ;)
To be honest, if they really went at that speed, i wouldn't have bothered to order independent fire, but to fix bayonets. The 3s delay between the order and "commence" meant they covered half the remaining distance, too.
"Wait and see" and phlegm have their use, in this particular context they seem detrimental.
Well, I see you went down the rabbit hole on that one!... 🙂
@@britishmuzzleloaders We each have our own ways of having fun. ;)
:)
👍
A Martini is worth her weight in silver among the Pathans.
Indeed!
A gun still being used in Afghanistan.
Not like it was 100 years ago... 🙂