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That straw tick might be the most brilliant idea for shotgun fitting I've ever seen.
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I’ve read a lot of text on a proper fit, but this was by far the best way. Thank you Sir.
Michael thank you...stay well !!!
This is the best ever video on gun mount. Almost everyone else makes it sounds like a rocket science. This is simply brilliant.
Adil...thank you very much...greatly appreciated!!!
I am 63 but a new shooter. Love your common sense and patient way to approach teaching aspects of shotgun mouunt, fit and shooting. Thanks so much and keep making these vids. Gary from the USA
Gary...I was four years older than you when i first started shooting trap...that was two years ago...the good thing about the sport is that blokes well into their 70's and early 80's are still participating and shooting good scores...so good luck to you my friend...i believe it takes about 15 months...and then suddenly everything just clicks...no thinking ...no aiming...just see bird ..shoot bird...good on you!
@@rogerpace9322 -- Great video, sir. I'm over 50 and have thought for years that the reason I can't hit anything with a shotgun (no matter how expensive the shotgun is) is that I simply started too late and that one must start shooting clays & doves at a young age to do any good. I've sold beautiful Benelli, Browning, and Remington shotguns because I couldn't hit any flying target with them.
@@cracky_wainwright Michael...you are much younger than I am...I hope you buy another gun and go and have some fun with it...thank you for watching ...and stay well !!!
About to buy my first gun and this is invaluable. Really appreciate your time and what a great tip with the straw. Genius!
Cuzzazbuzz...buy one that's proofed for steel shot...then you are ready for everything...mine has fixed chokes so if i ever have to shoot steel shot i can't...stay well and enjoy shopping for the new gun.
Great tip on the weight gain. I shot a beretta AL2 well as a teenager weighing 165 lbs. I returned to the gun years later at 200 lbs and couldn't hit a thing, noticed I could see the entire rib. Made up a shim to drop the comb a little and now it fits well again.
That's it...good on you and happy shooting!
Thank you for clearing up a lot of bunk I've been told over the years. I checked my three shotguns and two fit, one doesn't, and I never knew why. But now I do. Thank you.
Comments like yours make me happy...glad it was useful...thank you for watching. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !!!
@@rogerpace9322 and a very Merry Christmas to you good sir as well, and a happy New Year.
Brilliant explanation on gun Fit.... I especially like the "straw trick'..... cheers mate.
Perfect gun fit instructions. Thanks.
Best fit video ever. Straw idea also helps me to see how quickly and smoothly I can do the mount. Thanks a lot.
Andrew...glad you liked it!!!
Great instructional video. The height of comb explanation is the best I've seen on UA-cam. Thank you.
Thank you...much appreciated...stay well and Happy Shooting...Roger
What an excellent video explaining gun fit...I tried the straw trick, and I needed to add a shim, when rechecked through the straw it was perfect.....so thank you sir, you are a legend.....
thank you...you are very welcome!!!
Traditional trick in Greece! The most exact part of gun buy. Your eye must see just the end of the barrel in straight way! Nice job my friend liked your video
aoritis...megalo hello ...very true and thank you for watching!!!
Roger's advice is straightforward and easy to grasp. Thanks for helping me better understand these important concepts.
Wayne...you are very welcome...good on you!
Just followed your advice as my shooting is well off.
According to your advice, my eye line is nowhere near.
I’ll correct and follow this up.
Great advice, thank you.
Hope it all goes well for you .Thank you for watching!!!
I love how your videos are always straightforward without the added BS at the start like every other UA-camr does about the "liking and subscribing" crap. That's obvious.
Thanks again for all your help!
I appreciate that! Thank you very much !!!
This is the 100% absolute best explination and tip I have ever heard. Thank you for posting. I will try this and practice this.
Glad you liked it...thanks and stay well!!!
Most informative video I have seen on gun fit & mounting, thank you Roger.
Paul...you are very welcome and thank you for watching!!!
Thanks alot sir, I've shot at 35yds today as your instructions & got very good results using 36gr no.4 . & 40gr no. BB at 45 yds patterned about 2" low. But I'm satisfied with this. I'm very much appreciated and grateful to you sir. May God bless you. 😊
farabi...glad it all worked out...stay well!
Wow what a great video. At 6’ 4” I’m a fairly big guy and found my marlin 336 always felt uncomfortably small when I fact I had to add something to the stock for a cheek rest to bring my eyes in line. Feels like a new gun. Thanks so much.
OvER9ooo...Thank you for your kind comments!
Very informative ! Great tip about using the straw ! Thank you.
Just started using you soda straw trick. Great advice. I have been working a lot from home during COVID, so I have plenty of time. I mount by DT-11 ten times an hour. I am 77 and have been shooting all my life, never have better advice. Thank you.
Bob Tresslar
Denver Colorado
Robert...I too am about that age and I need to start strengthening my arms...mounting the gun often is good exercise and practice...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Thank you so much you're the only one that's described it explicitly in detail
You're welcome! and thank you for watching...stay well !!!
too many experts in this field.but your videos are simple and effective. i always watch your videos .very informative.keep up the good work mate
Good on you and thanks!
Thank you, Roger, for taking the time to share your wealth of information with us.
Thank you Roger. Brilliant. We would read all these things on the internet but you have the knack of putting everything in logical order when explaining it in your videos.
Regards
Sven
Hope it was useful ...I will do the other one on foot position in the next week or two...stay well...Roger
Yes please , that would be very useful , every one has there own opinion at my club on how you should stand , I find it annoying that I get told so many different things so now I just stand how I feel comfortable and stable , Id like to here your thoughts .
Nokharma...sorry I didn't answer you sooner...but sometimes I do not see all the messages...I have answered it in your latest comment...there are too many opinions at the club ... choose two really good shooters and only listen to them...at our club I am lucky that we have a former australian national Coach..his name is peter guire and he is a lovely and knowledgeable chap...we also have dino Olivieri who has been inducted into the hall of fame for clay shooting...both of them are still good shots...do not listen to everyone because they each have their own opinion...same say hold low on the trap house...others say hold high...some say mount your gun high then bring it down....others say bring your gun up to your face parallel with the ground...do what you feel is good for you and then do it CONSISTENTLY...Happy Shooting...Roger...PS change only one thing at a time
I can't believe I've never heard of the straw idea before. Thanks for the information. That's brilliant.
Thank you gunragdave
Really BRILLIANT explanation. Thank you so much
Jesus...thank you very much..glad you liked it...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Best advice to date. Thank you from South Africa.
Shaun... thank you... ...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
That's ingenious, thank you for sharing. I'm gonna try that immediately when I get home.
Mark...sorry for the late reply...glad you liked it !!!
Hi Roger,
To expand on my comment a bit - I've got a Miroku MK38 Teague Sporter, which the Browning rep thought was a tad low on the comb for me. I bought a Beartooth Comb Raising kit to see if I could correct this without breaking the Bank. It was a great improvement on the first outing, but I wasn't completely sure I'd raised the comb enough. Fitted a slightly thicker adjustment pad and then watched your video. Tried the straw test and saw that I was now spot-on. Brilliant! One less excuse…….
H Davies... good on you !
Thanks Roger, these are some great tips to try when I get home.
All fair dinkum Roger. Before we use your method we should find out if twin barreled shotguns are regulated properly. I have owned nice birdguns but one barrel shoots off a foot or two from the other. I just close my eyes, mount the gun and see if my rib picture is right, do it many times, practice to hone your mount. Thanks
Frank...I believe that at about 40 yards the shot from the two barrels should coincide...A foot or two difference is quite a bit...Thanks for watching...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
LOL...So I had bought a Beretta 1301 Tactical shotgun and in the manual it referred to Cast & Comb and these parts that came with it to change the Cast and Comb. I was like...what the Hell is a Cast & Comb??? Thank you Roger, I now know thanks to you.
Glad to hear it was helpful...thank you and stay well!!!
Thank you for the video. It is one of the easiest to understand gun fit videos that I've seen.
Bill...thank you!!!
Roger, thank you for this advice. You've saved me a lot of wasted time and money.
I'm looking forward to watching many more of your videos.
Good luck!
J. C.
John ...you are very welcome...and glad it was useful!
Thanks Roger, i immediately went to the kitchen for a straw... Genius tip. Turned out i could not see trough the straw at all, raised the comb slightly and Voila!
Makes me happy to hear it...good on you...happy shooting!!!
Made me even happier that i could hit clays with no more than my own fault today, Thank you Roger! Brilliant!
you are so right. first mount consistently, then check the fit.
You got it!
Great advice. got my new gun and followed the straw advice. Simple but effective. Feeling confident with the setup now. Cheers Roger
Thanks great easy way to check gun fit could save many wasted cartridges.
Simple instructions in a short amount of time. Well done Sir and Thank you 🙏🏻
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching...much appreciated.!!!
Thanks Roger, you are easy to follow and understand
You are very welcome...thank you...much appreciated !!!
Brilliant idea using a strawer! Thankyou!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching...stay well !!!
Close your eyes and mount the gun then open them. Do that a couple times. It helps . Just adjusted my maxus 2 after watching this video. It really helped.
Thank you for commenting Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
Something like that, my father shared to me.
Thank you for lesson!
Best regards from Poland.
Thanks Roger, great explanation, will try the straw trick. Cheers Ben
Good on you Ben!
Briliant, I've learned a lot. Thank you, sir!
Glad to hear it! Thank you !!!
Thanks, Roger, getting into skeet shooting and this will help out A LOT!!!
Good on you and thanks for watching!!!
THANK YOU ROGER !!!!!!!! True shooter !
Thanks for watching,,,...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Hi Roger
Nice and clear and at a pace you can absorb. The straw test is interesting.... not sure I'll have the balls to pull out a straw next time I'm in the gun shop but who knows.
All the best from sunny Wigan (England).
Jim.
Jim ...do it! Pull out the straw it will give you a good indication of whether the gun fits...good on you!
Thanks Roger for the good tips
Thank you very much for this. You made it very clear. Much appreciated!
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching Mike!!!
Excellent! Worth watching just for the drinking straw trick!
Glad you enjoyed it! stay well over there in Britain!!!
That just makes sense. Great Tip!
Good on you!!!
another tidbit is to shoulder the rifle with our eyes closed.
after it's up, open your eyes and see where your body naturally places the stock.
Do it about ten times fast, eyes closed to get the motion set and then open your eyes and determine if you're aligned properly.
Very true!!!!!
Pete from South East England. Thanks for the Straw Tip. Stay Safe.
Thanks for watching! stay well in South East England!!!
Excellent and practical demonstration on gun fitting.
Thank you mike...good on you!!!
i have read that if you cant mount your gun with eyes closed and have it lined up when you open them you need to adjust it so it does. feel is what you use when the compition is greatest. doing it with your eyes open, will allow your body to change postion of the gun to make it lineup with out thinking about it. try it with your eyes closed and see
jesse...what you say is very true...and practising our gun mount is just as important as going to practice...good on you and stay well!!
Roger, great video mate. The straw trick is ingeneous. I'm off to the bakery now to buy a drink and get a straw!
Nice one ...we are locked down and the bakeries are shut!!!
Thanks for much needed help.
Glad it helped and thank you ...stay well and happy shooting !!!
great information thanks
Helpful video thanks. I have confirmed my gun doesn't fit. I need to increase cast as I'm shooting slightly to the left. I notice you push your head down onto the comb. I shoot skeet (gun mounted after release of the bird) and game. Ideally we should mount the gun with the neck held in the natural standing position. I don't think I drop my head at all and the rib is in correct position. My right eye needs to move about 4 or 5 mm to the left to be central to the rib. Its a cheap gun and not a special stock. Would it be easier to remove some of the comb with a spokeshave then refinish the woodwork instead of going through the hot oil and bending treatment?
If you are happy to remove some of the wood then that is probably easier than the process of bending the stock...but yes whatever you do your eye needs to line up with the rib...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Great tips. Thank you Sir!
Glad to be of help!
I've just got my shotgun certificate and was looking for some advice. It's much clearer now, so thank you, Roger ;-)
Squirrel Hunter...you are most welcome...glad it was useful!
Good idea with the drinking straw and I'll try it. Up to this point I've tried a small disk neodymium magnet at the front end of the rib to make sure it lines up with the bead.
Top advice.
Hi Roger. tried the straw brilliant and simple I have a K80 that was nearly spot on just a bit high,and a k32 which was miles to high sorted now .Thanks for a great vid .Roger uk.
Thanks for sharing Much appreciated !!!
I love your videos. Very useful without any pomp and show. You are the best....
Much appreciated. Sorry for the late reply. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
great advice
Good on you. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
Thanks. Great tip
Glad it was helpful! Stay well John!!!
Thank you ,very helpful
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. !!!
An extremely important point missed here is "cant",,, if the stock is "twisted" incorrectly it will seriously affect your aim so is wearing different clothing,,, let alone losing or gaining weight! I have been shooting and coaching for decades, and my first choice of guns, for any discipline is ,,, Beretta!!
Good on you Chris and thanks for your input...stay well and thanks for watching!!!
@@rogerpace9322 I thank you for your good grace, in acknowledging my little bit of input. We are , none of us too old to learn, and I too learned from you, and I am as near 70 as makes little odds. It is though a sad fact that some people are under the impression they know everything! Those in general are the guys, yes almost always males, that I like to really challenge on the clay circuit, and watch them prove to rest of us, they actually do have an awful lot to learn.
Always wanted to know what fitting your gun was. Ever since seeing the movie Revenge with Kevin Costner and Anthony Quinn. Thanks for sharing!
You are very welcome!!!
fantastic video i can now mount my gun properly many thanks roger.
john...that makes me happy to hear it ...stay well!
excellent explanation of mounting and fit, I especially like the tip on using a straw.
Good on you and thanks!
Explained very well.
Thank you and you are very welcome!!!
Great advice Roger, thank you.....!
Stay well!
Nice tips. We share similar tastes and fit in Beretta 686 Silver Pigeons, too!
GunBlue490...Good on you!
I went trap shooting for the first time and whilst i love the silver pigeon dtl ( trap version ) i dont think it fit properly without some modifying. I did quite well but need to practice my mounting
Roger - I know this is quite an old video, but still very relevant and an excellent and simple explanation of a subject that some experts make to sound way over complicated - probably because they want to charge big bucks to offer the same advice? 👍👍
Dale...the video is old ...just like me...stay well and happy shooting!!!
I learned something new great video
Shaun...thank you much appreciated...stay well and keep safe!!!
Thanks for the explanation. You must be a teacher!
I was a school principal most of my working life...I did not know it showed...stay well my friend and happy shooting !!!
Excellent video, thank you.
Thank you Todd ...much appreciated!
so simple, so awesome.
Mike...you are very kind... thankyou for watching...stay well!
Like all brilliant ideas that drinking straw tip is pure genius. Accounts for both axis of view.
Glad it was helpful! My mates laugh at me and say I should use a 75mm pvc pipe. Thank you for watching Stay well and Happy Shooting !!!
Thanks!
No problem! You are very welcome and thank you for watching !!!
Thank you very much!
Great video. Thank
Glad you liked it! Stay well and thanks !!!
Very informative video. Thanks for making it!
Many thanks...happy shooting!!!
most excellent instruction, thank you so much
Nancy...you are very welcome!!!
Thank you
Frank......much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
All good tips 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Another great video, thank you Roger.
My pleasure,Neil. Thanks.
Brilliant - thanks
Anthony ...you are very welcome...stay well!!!
Thanks Roger
You are very welcome !!!
Thanks a lot. Helped me a lot with my new Beretta 690 Sporting.
Thank you...stay well...Roger
Dear Mr Roger
Good day
You are really great man , very important information , Please send your advice for about the shocks my shotgun is benelli 828u
thanks
Bader hazena
Great explanation, some different ways than I was taught. But I like your ideas. Thank you for your knowledge
Thanks a lot, nice tips!
llja Roos...Thank you and good on you!
Brillant tips!!
Cheers Roger simple great advice 🤙
Peter...much appreciated and thanks!