FAS 6004 - Air Pistol - Zero Recoil - Not a Sausage!
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FAS stands for Fabbrica Armi Sportive
I'm italian. The right way to pronounce Chiappa is Kiappa. FAS stands for Fabbrica Armi Sportive (sporting weapons manifacture). This is a competition pistol, so it doesn't need to be powerful. The quality is outstanding, much better than the Gamo which by the way is noy a competition pistol.
agree, the Gamo is junk. Many have complained the 6004 leaks. And it does not have the very important trigger stop of the original FAS 604 (IIRC).
Those looking for budget competition airgun but find this type of loading tiresome - check out IZH-46.
I've got a Beeman P 17 that costs a fraction of these guns. It's identical to the Wierauch HW 40 and cost $ 69.00 CDN and consistently shoots on chrono at 425 fps. Of all my pistols, this is the most accurate. Thank's again Giles. Your videos have more and more special effects and show a lot of work put into them. You're fun to watch, keep'em comin' . :-)
I've got the old version - the 604. Brilliant gun.
I have a Gamo Compact which is almost the same!... Had him for about 15 years and I absolutely love him!!! Extremely accurate and fun to shoot!
At 0:22 I noticed you're right handed, but left eye dominate. You should try shooting pistol left handed. You'll probably do better once you get used to the feel. To be honest, that's why you do better two handed shooting. You put the gun more on your left side due to triangulation. I'm speaking from experience and my military pistol training. This is not intended as a negative critique, but instead intended to help. That's my $.02. Have a great day!
Post age 30 any chance of us listening to reason is out the question. I am right handed and left eye dominant and will continue to shoot right handed and adapt. It works for me and has for many years.
I have an early 604 , nearly 42 years old - I have lots of Steyr/Rohm/Pardini 10m pistols and it’s as accurate and really well balanced, pleased they are still making them, with one of the best pistol triggers produced. Absolute bargain for the quality.
Gotta give the Webley Alecto . a shout out. In. 177 its very accurate (i havent tried. 22) its pretty much recoiless and at an average 5.8ftlbs its a great pester for around 10metres as long as the shooter is capable. Think it is sold under Zoraki HP01 now but its the same pistol. All the best from lancashire.
I have a FAS604 and its superb. 10m paper punching I averaging 89/90 on a competition string. I say was . The seals gave up on the gun and I have never been able to find a new set. Seems I need to contact Mr Chiapa. Thanks Giles. Stick with it and paper punching can be very satisfying. Thanks for the video sir. And no Im NOT putting up a video
This guy is the most American English man
Good video. I don’t own or shoot anything fancy just run of the mill air guns. Thanks for the information, I didn’t know that target air guns were so low powered but it make sense.
Good to see you found your youtube password 😁
These Pistols are Superb, for the money they are simply incredible
Always good reviews and you makes me laugh as well. Missed!
Look at the Marksman 2004 or the Beeman p17. They are cheap, accurate, great trigger and fun! Looks like the same power plant too.
Awesome video Giles. That is a fantastic air pistol.
A good 10mtr pistol, been around many years Gamo copied it in plastic and a simple trigger.
The FAS maybe lower powered but So is the cocking effort !! A comp course of 60 shots will have you're arm dropping off with the Gamo !
You may prefer a PCP type pistol but this doesn't need an expensive charging kit to make it work.
As for pellets RWS R10 and H&N Meisterkugln are the boys, and most likely in 4.49-4.51 the most common sizes for match guns.and of course Hobby's a great training pellet.
Any way,not a bad test, the only letdown is the price,to much for an old gun £250 ish is where it should be not priced like a custom shotgun.
HW75 owner; the 6004 is virtually identical in terms of function- fantastic target pistol and training pistol, much cheaper than a 'proper' pcp target pistol ( though my PP700W is just as accurate with some work done to it ).
I see Giles has the same problem I have. Right handed but left eye dominant / Blind as a bat in the right eye. I can see why shooting it two handed made such a big difference. I have to do the same with my pistols.
Ive had 2 Gamo airguns that look exactly like the Kiappa !!
Even loads the same way.
And also a target gun.
Gamo has had that gun for more than 30 years..
Beeman for longer
Always Love A New Video From You!!!!Cheers from the States Mate!!!
Good video as usual very entertaining..you should be using right eye when aiming with gun in right hand..might improve gun accuracy a little..keep the videos coming they are brilliant
Nice review, nice pistol. A couple of points
Target
H&N Match pellets is what I used back in the day in my FAS just saying ;)
the ones in the square yellow box of 100 ?
Goodness me no there to expensive, although some did use them then refilling them with swaged /resized pellets from the tins to better increase accuracy and eccomy, I still have my pellet resizer, things got somewhat OTT in that regard.
I have a HW75, very similar and very accurate
Nice air-pistol bro!
The company is known for its gimmick revolver the Rhino. The barrel is on the bottom of the cylinder vs the top like most revolvers. The also have a large line of MEH rimfire replica pistols.
😂Very Good Review😂
Too say the least : there is much too be said about A wild-eye'd funny-man that knows his craft - 10 - stars !
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Buddy, I'd re-release this video after you've ordered and used a Merit Variable Aperture Optical Attachment with Suction Cup for pistol shooting. Read my long assed comment below or just trust an old competitive shooter ( I won California State NRA trophies twice) who learned from guys far better than myself. I can understand not spending huge money on competitive pistol shooting glasses, but at least purchase the Merit. I used to use the Clearsite Shooting Loupe for certain disciplines, they hook on to the temple piece of your glasses and flip up in a second with no suction cup mark on your glasses, come to think of it, they might have made a suction model too. If you want to shoot iron sight pistols from a bench or offhand accurately, or test pellets or loads you MUST have at least a variable aperture.
i have a old beeman p1 .177. it goes every where with me.
had the original 604 was a fantastic pistol :) oh btw ... Fabbrica Armi Sportivi
Fullbodied airgun shooter
For a minute there, I thought Giles had started a Phill Collins tribute act....🤔 🎶 "Oh..... I missed again.... I think I missed again....ah ha....." 🎶 😉
I have the Gamo Compact, looks similar and much cheaper, how do they compare? Mainly use a Rohm Twinmaster :-)
I started with the original 604, before I went onto the British squad and upgraded
Really enjoy yours videos! Imformative but still very funny :-) Keep up! Thank you!
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FAS Fábrica di armi sporti .. Sporting arms factory. This was the old name, in italian the pronunciation quie-ah-pah.
I suppose its ok for a beginners gun but you need precharged to be competitive. I have owned a few single stroke pneumatics and they are extremely accurate but once you have cocked and fired 50+ shots you start to loose accuracy.
not sure if you be yelling "I touched it!"..... ;) in your back yard...
Pizza, sausages.......there's always a food reference somewhere!
Just watched this video on Airgun101, it's a nice back yard AND (perhaps) competition worthy target air pistol,...I'd like to find a stocking dealer with these here in Canada,... because
I just might like to buy one of these.
FAS,...might stand for F#@^*g awesome shooter,...then again, it might not!
Thanks for this Giles,...( and yes, I'll say it ),.... thank god* this is not a video about how good FX air guns are; * lower case g intended!
Try the Beeman P 17. It's identical to the Wierauch HW40 It's German engineered, just outsourced by Wierauch to China I believe. $69.00 CDN. Sold everywhere in Canada. :-)
Try the Baikal IZH46m
Right handed Giles left eye dominant 🤔
I noticed that too. I'm surprised he can hit anything!
Yeah, not the ideal tackdriving starting point.
I thought your groups were good, just bought a HW45 and i am probably the worst pistol shot on planet earth! great vid, thank you, regards, David.
I think if anyone was worried about an airgun being twice the price but less powerful than another then the PCP market outright wouldn't exist.
Good fun.
Are you in training to be a stormtrooper extra for mr lucas? 😁
Andai aq dikasih senapan nya bos... wah mantap tenan
I'd still be buying an Mp-46m
I have that target trap. What did you put on the front to hold the target and make it that quiet?
He was using gaffer tape/duct tape. Try lining the inside of the trap with old carpet or towels- that'll make it virtually silent.
@@SuicideNeil there is also the really low power of this gun, so that "plinking" for once is the right word.
Interesting..I have seen 400fps claimed by a seller for the FAS 6004
Not for America. My beeman is fine but i do envy the grips on the chiappa.
Try bisley lrg
IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A LOG BOLTED TO IT
I think you're doing well for someone unfamiliar with grouping an iron sighted pistol from a bench. DUDE! you need a Merit Optical Attachment with Suction Cup - it's a variable aperture (like a camera lens or peep sight) Without one it's an uphill battle: 1) You're shooting with the gun too low, forcing you to look up through your glasses. You group with your head up in a normal fashion and the rest raised to allow it. 2) It would seem that with a pistol you are right handed but left eye dominant, this makes it a bit more difficult for you. 3) The massive issue, you don't have shooting glasses with a variable aperture and companion shooting lens, a soft white or gray blocker for your non shooting eye (so it can relax while fully open) and side blinders (like a carriage horse). The companion lens will usually be +.75 to +1.5 diopters, depending on your age (usually). At first I used a custom made +.5 lens when I was in my late twenties. Get a lower stool, raise the rest. With shooting glasses I'd expect fliers to disappear and group size to drop by 50 to 75 percent. Don't believe me? Get a pair of cheap reading glasses, you should be able to find a +1.0 fairly easily, put on your prescription glasses (or contacts), then put the reading glasses on so they are about a little out in front of your normal glasses, if you don't need corrective lenses or you have contact lenses you've got it made, just put the reading glasses on. Here comes the weird part 😁 find a stiff piece of paper, like card stock, perhaps an old paper box from .22lr ammo, a post card or an old box of Weetabix, the darker the better, if you can color it black that's best. You are going to FOLD, not bend it so you can affix it in your line of sight on your dominant eye. WTF? You're going to punch/poke/drill a neat 1mm hole in the paper. With your head in a normal position you will sight through the glasses, through the hole (that your wife helped you position) then through the pistol sights. The +1.0 diopter glasses will help you dead sharp focus the sights, the hole in the paper fools your eye into giving you damn good focus on the target at the same time. If everything is super blurred you probably tried +1.5 or more reading glasses, if everything is too friggin dark the hole in the paper is too small. If you are young & have excellent vision try just the aperture, the hole in the paper or fork out the money for the less expensive Merit Optical Attachment with Suction Cup. If you have old eyes you may need a different diopter for offhand shooting versus grouping as you've lost some ability to force focus. Shooting glasses start in the hundreds and get into crazy money.
When a highly restricted Englishman tells me there's not much power in it you can be assured I listen. I don't shoot anything under .22 with 20 ft lbs and that's in my garage.
Another interesting and light hearted video Giles. However I am concerned about your burgeoning stature as I am sure Mrs Giles must be. Look after yourself, get walking; like you I struggle to avoid the delights of cake and biscuits. We want you around a long time. Take care, stay safe.
Certainly has the Italian look
Wait were u shooting right handed with you right eye closed!!!!
You don’t know what FAS means? 😢
Like the man cave.
Hey avagit onla ava
FAS usually stands for Firsts and Seconds when sorting wood. Maybe you get something good. Maybe you get junk. LOL
Didn’t they make the revolver that fires from the lowest chamber and eliminates muzzle flip ?
Cheers from Downunder👍😷🇦🇺🇬🇧
Being right handed and left eyed wasn't helping your accuracy..
My single pump/shot 35 year old Daisy Powerline works on exactly the same principle and is completely recoil less, your Audio is very low, music really loud, you are really very low.
Better get the HW 75 !!!
GREETINGS GILES , how are you ? yes this pistol is not for me ... i get more power with my glocks ... and shoot better .... thank you for this review .... take care . SIMON from SUNNY YORK
Oooooo fok
Chiappa is pronoued Ki-a-pa
I suppose they named it FAS because Zasdar was taken
Το weihrauch Πολύ καλυτερο Σε όλα.
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Recoiless air pistol .... it's a toy mate
Better off with a HW45, accurate and massive power, (just under 6ft1bs)
That's about the ugliest pistol grip I've ever seen...but great results. Thanks.
Maybe you just suck because professionals everywhere say the FAS is the bomb.