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  • @petemason57
    @petemason57 Рік тому +16

    This is a sport I can no longer afford. Used to own a BSA pistol and rifle many many years ago.
    This channel is the best viewing on the internet. Not been watching for very long but enjoying every video I am watching. Thanks for the time you are giving to bring us the best reviews for this sport. Keep it up and stay safe.

    • @LA6NPA
      @LA6NPA 4 місяці тому +2

      Air Venturi V10/Gamo Compact is your cheapest option for a match-legal pistol. And saving money on targets when practicing: Use air rifle targets (5 targets 1 sheet) at 5 meters instead of pistol targets at 10 meters (1 target 1 sheet). The black area on the air rifle targets is exactly half the size of the black part of the air pistol target, so shooting at 5 meters makes it basically the same. Except holes will be bigger comparably, and the numbers are different, but for practice, this doesn't really matter.

    • @petemason57
      @petemason57 4 місяці тому +2

      @@LA6NPA Being on a pension now I have to watch the pennies. Not got a big garden approx 16 mtrs long but plagued with pigeons, woodies, squirrels, would sooner deter them as kill them. I did buy a rifle slingshot from China and had to modify it and now it's good for 14 mtrs but it don't kill and is doing the job. If I was younger and not into my PC I would invest in a rifle and join a club. It's all about the money for everything now days. So I make do with Andy's reviews.

    • @LA6NPA
      @LA6NPA 4 місяці тому +1

      @@petemason57 I understand. Been there. Sorry you're on hard times, and hope your pension will go up a bit soon so you may have some spending cash!

    • @petemason57
      @petemason57 4 місяці тому

      @@LA6NPA Lol not on hard times but money is spent on various things. Pc upgrade and need items for my amateur radio. Be nice getting a little more pension lol.

    • @LA6NPA
      @LA6NPA 4 місяці тому

      @@petemason57 Haha! I see! You may have noticed, I'm using my call sign as my user name, so I understand the sudden need for just one more antenna or shiny, lovely key! Though I'm not active (it's a recurring ADHD hyperfocus), if I ever came across a Novoplex (pre ww2 German bug), I'd surely be that much out of pocket in a flash! (Even if all I ever practice is on a tiny, homebrew cootie of my own design). 😊

  • @philipbooth9755
    @philipbooth9755 Рік тому +10

    Nice review Andy thanks, They are actually built to shoot high Andy, as your sight picture is based on focusing on the foresight at the six o clock position on the “black” on a 10m pistol target, not the bullseye, doesn’t look a bad piece of kit, but high powered though, 3-4 fpe is more the norm.

  • @mikerichardson4240
    @mikerichardson4240 Рік тому +9

    I had the real Steyr LP10 cost me over £1700 a few years ago, for a knock off it looks the part and ideal for a youngster getting into match pistol

  • @neilfordham5790
    @neilfordham5790 Рік тому +15

    I am not really into pistols but that looks like a very capable piece of kit at a reasonable price. Nice one Andy.

  • @Francisfamily12
    @Francisfamily12 Рік тому +10

    You know its Friday when you watch AAR while having a coffee in the morning! Another great review!

  • @kelvinsparks4651
    @kelvinsparks4651 3 місяці тому +1

    Air pistol target 10 mtr target has interested me for years but never had the funds to do it, but this gun puts the sport well within the range of a lot more people and in these trying times for shooting sports we need all the interest we can get.

  • @RandysRides
    @RandysRides Рік тому +5

    Wicked grouping. I just bought the Crosman American Classic..... and same thing...the accuracy is spot on.

    • @topshot2787
      @topshot2787 Рік тому +2

      Love the Crosmans, I bought the 1377 and I did the mods and then bought the 1322 which is the 22 calibre version as well and did the same. As you say, super accurate. All the best from Lancashire UK.

  • @Flukey_1970
    @Flukey_1970 Рік тому +7

    Would be even better in an indoor range for fair testing however that’s very impressive. Great review as usual Andy

  • @arthurmow262
    @arthurmow262 Рік тому +14

    The 10 year cylinder life is an ISSF rule for competitions. Probably won’t impact most people.

  • @oldfartinthenight9201
    @oldfartinthenight9201 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Andy, another nice one. Having a small garden, 10m max diagonally (not Diagon Alley!), pistol shooting suits and I picked up an Artemis PP800 at the British Shooting Show last year for a very good price. However, after trying a Weihrauch 100 at the event, my heart is set on saving my pennies for one of those and getting on the range. Decisions, decisions!

    • @jeffslade1892
      @jeffslade1892 Рік тому

      The PP800 is the PCP version of my CO2 CP2 I have set up as target pistol, carved wooden CP1 grip and all, but with a red dot because I cannot see straight. Because it is more difficult and because that is more challenging and that is fun. The PP20 is regulated and so is the PP800R Gen2, and so is the CP2 running on CO2 because the vapour pressure remains constant on any given session.

  • @heathhalfhill6401
    @heathhalfhill6401 Рік тому +2

    If I were into 10 meter silhouette shooting this would be a very affordable pistol for just such a purpose. Some of these silhouette pistols can get extremely expensive. Pop a regulator in this gun and you may have something really special providing you find the right ammo and tune for optimal accuracy. Good review. Stay blessed.

  • @WayneNiles01
    @WayneNiles01 Рік тому +2

    That's a really nice piece of hardware there. Cheers, Andy. I like that a lot.

  • @MathewFisk
    @MathewFisk Рік тому +1

    Oh, I've been waiting for this one - I had this bought earlier in the year having just taken up the sport, and it went back after a month. Grip was undersized and not particularly ergonomic at all out the box on the thumb location or the palm shelf by the wrist joint for me with a 9.3cm palm width and is terrible compared to the default grips on more expensive pistols. Mine leaked air through the regulator when the cylinder was attached/detached which is ultimately why it went back, but was also really fussy on pellet placement, constantly needing the pellet to be pushed past the breech seal as the pin wouldn't push straight so the pellets would get stuck half the time which I saw you also had an issue with. Got better with the quality of pellet used, but was still present even using R10s.
    I couldn't get this to give a clean break on the trigger, no matter how I adjusted it always felt a bit rough pulling through. Also worth noting that this is a heavy pistol coming in just shy of 1200g so it's about 20% heavier than market leaders and required a lot of grip to keep in in my hand, something less prevalent with more ergonomic and lighter weight pistols and worth bearing in mind for those in comments saying it might be good for juniors. In the end, I decided it was worth my money going with a second hand pistol at just over twice the price, and I have got more than twice the sum of the parts of the PP20 for that. With all that said, it did shoot well enough for someone new to the sport (as I am) to have countinued to use it if they were happy with the negatives, but if they were semi-serious about the sport they'd be upgrading in no time at all I think. I think with a few tweaks, this could be a great entry level pistol.

  • @joetaylor486
    @joetaylor486 Рік тому +5

    That looks excellent. As a lapsed target pistol shooter, that looks a fabulous alternative to a. Walther or a Steyr that is second hand and chopped about. All it needs is some scruntineering stickers on the grip 😊

    • @Roxnuttycombe
      @Roxnuttycombe Рік тому +3

      I have one and it's a great alternative to a second hand Steyr or walther

  • @drmichaelatkins
    @drmichaelatkins Рік тому +3

    Andy does some great reviews and here he is dipping his toe into a whole world of precision beyond belief (and prices too). Looks like an excellent entry level to this serious sport - but beware of brand snobs here. Shooting well will always win over a high priced gun in the hand of a poor shot!

  • @by.dvr.music.1973
    @by.dvr.music.1973 25 днів тому +1

    Good pistole, likes
    Bruxelles à 21h32 - 15/11/2024.
    Amitiés de,
    Didier🙋

  • @johnfiore9390
    @johnfiore9390 Рік тому +3

    Well what a video to wake upto before work.. very nice but ill stick to my riffles

  • @5Komma5
    @5Komma5 Рік тому +2

    WOW that looks really nice! Thanks for showing us.

  • @topshot2787
    @topshot2787 Рік тому +2

    Good video, and a super accurate pistol that looks much more expensive than it is. I know people do not like touch on the subject of hunting with air pistols in the UK, especially when speaking about a 177, but whilst you were out shooting a target and a bit of small game or vermin got in the way of the target, the Snowpeaks superb accuracy at 5.45ftlbs within 10metres, and you were confident with your capabilities, it would work fine at that range and at that power. All the best from Lancashire.

  • @KingLoopie1
    @KingLoopie1 Рік тому +1

    I'm still happy with my izh 46m single stroke rh. But... If I ever have some spare money. Maybe a lefty snowpeak... 😉 Great, cheap, one arm pistol practice! 👍👍

  • @shh882h
    @shh882h Рік тому +2

    Got a bit of a Snowpeak thing going on at the moment I see. While I don't shoot this type of gun myself I can appreciate the time and effort put in by the guy's who do. I do have some pistols, mostly Co2 stuff, but I do have an SMK Victory PP700w with a removeable stock. While I don't use it as a target pistol but more as very short rifle with a red dot I can see and understand the satisfaction that the accuracy of a sorted pistol and shooter can bring. Great vid by the way.

  • @Steve-Cross
    @Steve-Cross Рік тому +4

    I would imagine it would tighten up with match grade pellets and a little more leading in. Nice one, Andy. 👍

    • @jeffslade1892
      @jeffslade1892 Рік тому

      Not necessarily. On my pistol match pellets are only slightly better than the Webley VMXpell I use for practise. Airguns is pellet fussy, no two the same.

    • @Steve-Cross
      @Steve-Cross Рік тому

      @@jeffslade1892 Very true. 👍

  • @krezol45
    @krezol45 Рік тому

    Good timing....I was just looking for excuse to not spend fortune on Steyr and I found it. PP20 is going to be my first PCP.

  • @Nverinder716
    @Nverinder716 3 місяці тому

    I was fortunate enough to win a giveaway yesterday for an Air Venturi Comp10 and I've got to say that this Snowpeak looks nearly IDENTICAL to the Comp10!!! Coming in a bit lower in price than the Air Venturi and seeing these results, I cannot wait to see how the Comp10 performs!

  • @Airgunfactory
    @Airgunfactory Рік тому +1

    Another no nonsense fabulous review, cheers Andy 👍👍

  • @richardwhiteside7929
    @richardwhiteside7929 Рік тому +1

    Morning Andy, another great review.

  • @thinkingimpaired5663
    @thinkingimpaired5663 Рік тому +1

    I'd like one for a gopher gun. Nice shooting by the way. And such a beautiful looking pistol.

  • @mikebird8290
    @mikebird8290 Рік тому

    WOW Andy I'm DEFINITELY IMPRESSED thanks for sharing sir 🇬🇧👍🏼

  • @georgeloveless4176
    @georgeloveless4176 Рік тому

    Excellent review Andy.
    I really enjoyed this...thank you.

  • @tarmacdemon
    @tarmacdemon Рік тому +1

    Good morning all .
    Considering you was complaining about your eyesight imbalance near /long range that was some nice grouping .

  • @russellham2094
    @russellham2094 Рік тому +1

    Great review
    Shame the grip is slightly undersized, considering its sold towards adults. Would be great starter for a junior though
    Try Geco or R10 pellets

  • @duck1946
    @duck1946 Рік тому +1

    MM nice! for what appers to be a bargain starter 10mtr pistol at a quarter of the opposition price,yes may need a bit of a polish around the edges but for a newbie or the pleasure /club shooter who doesnt want a 1911/Ruger looka like? but a gun that fits the regs. for the odd club 10mtr comp,nice!
    As for the brand, i beleive Snowpeak have been around for many years and have been on the US market for a long time, i think they also produce guns under other brand names too for other importer distributors,

  • @paulhnatuszka6850
    @paulhnatuszka6850 Рік тому

    Nothing wrong with that andy dam good grouping too. nice one sir.

  • @ElienVangoidtsenhoven
    @ElienVangoidtsenhoven Рік тому +5

    Why not use an Olympic target? This Snowpeak is a Chinese copy of a Olympic match-grade Steyr LP10. I've owned one 10 years ago. Curious to know how it performs by a real competition shooter. At a price of about 1/3 of a Steyr these days, it might be the real thing to buy

  • @ErickvdK
    @ErickvdK Рік тому +1

    Rise'n'shine...!😊

  • @marekmarzec5634
    @marekmarzec5634 Рік тому +2

    Great pistol very good price, thanks

  • @_stoatchaser
    @_stoatchaser Рік тому +28

    It looks like a Lego brick and a stars wars blaster have had a liaison 😂

    • @ddoherty5956
      @ddoherty5956 Рік тому +4

      Everything is awesome!🤣

    • @Roxnuttycombe
      @Roxnuttycombe Рік тому +3

      It looks no different to any other 10m target pistol.

    • @_stoatchaser
      @_stoatchaser Рік тому +2

      @@ddoherty5956 everything is cool when you're part of a team

    • @rafaelobo1
      @rafaelobo1 Рік тому +2

      Actually on one of the star wars movies they used 10mts target pistols, with the weights included

    • @_stoatchaser
      @_stoatchaser Рік тому +1

      @@Roxnuttycombe they all have a face only a mother could love then

  • @gblan
    @gblan 4 місяці тому

    Dremel the grip to fit, get it adjusted and sighted and use cleaned and sorted top match pellets and you'd have something.

  • @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt
    @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Рік тому

    Title is short n sweet. Where I live a PP20 is an Airline Pet Carrier Crate.

  • @DougForsyth
    @DougForsyth Рік тому +2

    Interesting. . May I suggest that you consider a series of shots over the chronograph, rather that just providing a speed reference. Consistency is, as we all know, key! Regards Doug

  • @antmaddogkohl9056
    @antmaddogkohl9056 Рік тому +1

    Great pistol, i love my pp800, thanks Andy another great review 👍🏻

  • @steveclements7680
    @steveclements7680 4 місяці тому +1

    A proper target pistol for £400.00 is an INCREDIBLE bargain.

  • @frankfanelli6116
    @frankfanelli6116 Рік тому +1

    I wonder what the accuracy would be if the gun was rested properly,. Nice pistol and good video!

  • @casperboo5465
    @casperboo5465 Рік тому

    Thanks And y for your time doing this and all the other videos we have all come to luv and look forward to watching, another great review as always, and for those who are in to this kind of shooting would defiantly give them some thing to think about, Cheers ( Keery ) 👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @leonardpearlman4017
    @leonardpearlman4017 8 місяців тому

    It looks like these will become available in the States, so I'm paying more attention now. Did we mention that something seems to be happening about the muzzle? At a glance it looks like there's a muzzle brake/air stripper kind of thing and also some perforations in the barrel. These seem like kind of high end features, but it might also just be cosmetic? This also happens. There doesn't seem to be much muzzle flip. It's about a third the price of the thing it's trying to look like, more like the price I'm paying for used match pistols that are thirty years old or more on eBay.

  • @lyndenhodder5655
    @lyndenhodder5655 Рік тому

    WHAT,, No quote of the week, this channel is going down hill 😂😂, cracking review as always Andy, I know what you mean about the glasses thing I’ve got the same problem but i do enjoy shooting mine, and yes I use a rest 😊.

  • @brorjordas1979
    @brorjordas1979 Рік тому +11

    "Budget" £450 airpistol? No thanks!
    For me budget woulda mean't €100-200..😁😁🤣

    • @ozzie7523
      @ozzie7523 Рік тому +8

      Me too but i'm guessing 400 quid is a "Budget Price" for a fairly decent target pistol these days🎯🔫😁

    • @UnCoolDad
      @UnCoolDad Рік тому +4

      It is a budget pcp competition pistol. The equivalent Steyr is £2000

    • @stephencope7178
      @stephencope7178 Рік тому +9

      100 - 200 Euros doesn't buy a quality target pistol, only a tin can basher!! 🤔

    • @simonnoble7589
      @simonnoble7589 Рік тому +3

      not for me , yes it`s 2 pricey ? i can shoot just as good with my p365 ! ... 😁

    • @porkster5924
      @porkster5924 Рік тому +7

      Some 10M pistols cost over £2000 so this is a budget pistol compared to true match pistols from Morini, Steyr, Walther and Feinwerkbau.

  • @ykdickybill
    @ykdickybill Рік тому

    Excellent review Andrew as always. 👍

  • @WinWisel
    @WinWisel Рік тому

    Andy, you aee verygood shooter i must say, well done with this pistol!

  • @billybobbgooberknickle
    @billybobbgooberknickle 8 місяців тому

    I'd like to see another video testing Match grade pellets such as Meisterkugeln, H&N Finale Match , r10...etc...
    I tried the Exites through a fwb 300su and a Diana 65 with the extra heavy barrel sleeve bench rested and neither rifle liked them.
    3/8's - 1/2" groups at 35 feet.

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull Рік тому

    Like...
    Might consider one of these and retire my Daystate Competa from active duty.

  • @alfa110Bp
    @alfa110Bp 2 дні тому

    Thanks

  • @RAB-om9jy
    @RAB-om9jy Рік тому

    Great review as always ,now if snowpeak would only do a biathlon rifle....

  • @fliesarenegade
    @fliesarenegade Рік тому +3

    Goodmorning all!

  • @davidkaye8712
    @davidkaye8712 Рік тому

    It also has a satisfying pop.

  • @brianreed1451
    @brianreed1451 Рік тому

    I use those pellets. They are awesome

  • @Ilikerawfish
    @Ilikerawfish 9 місяців тому

    Regarding the gauge issue, when we want to have resolution at 200bar, the gauge has to have a higher limit than that. We have more precision when filling the tank when reaching the 200bar mark. Also, 200bar is not the maximum the tank can hold, but, not being a knowledgeble person about this particular topic, probably the nominal pressure the gun works at.

  • @kushynoda
    @kushynoda 2 місяці тому

    For a student living in Turkey who wants to start in the 10-meter air pistol discipline, which affordable pistol would you recommend?

  • @jasonb2928
    @jasonb2928 Рік тому

    It's always windy in Andy's backyard.

  • @simonnoble7589
    @simonnoble7589 Рік тому

    Good morning Andy , fab review on this target pistol . And it shoot`s so well .... A good buy at this price ! Cheers Si

  • @mikewright309
    @mikewright309 Рік тому +1

    Nice review. A small point on technique. I would suggest removing your finger off the trigger whilst loading.

  • @stephendean1906
    @stephendean1906 Рік тому

    Another great review Andy .Keeping it interesting and fresh as always .Also enjoyed your recent bow and crossbow review.

  • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
    @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 Рік тому

    Pretty darn good Andrew for them old eyes 👀
    😎👉🏻🏅

  • @serverlan763
    @serverlan763 3 місяці тому

    It's an ISSF 10m Match air pistol. It should be able to put every shot through the same hole at 10M. Thats what it needs to do if it's going to be capable of winning matches with the top shooters. PS windy conditions wont affect a .177 pellet much at 10M

  • @stephendonkin5497
    @stephendonkin5497 Рік тому

    Good review Andy

  • @johanvanaarde5539
    @johanvanaarde5539 Рік тому

    Hi Andy. I have a snowpeak p750 but after this video i going to get for me one here in South Africa. I will let you know how is my results of my ISSF score in the DOD.

  • @brianreed1451
    @brianreed1451 Рік тому

    I shoot an Air Arms Air Pro.
    Thats a nice pistol.
    I'm a lefties so the grip won't fit.
    Nice review

  • @Tony-kl5tz
    @Tony-kl5tz 4 місяці тому

    Great! How about a comparison with a genuine Olympic pistol? Like a Styer or Walther?

  • @dxm1833
    @dxm1833 Рік тому

    You should review pp750 snowpeak

  • @FinlayDaG33k
    @FinlayDaG33k Рік тому

    Tried this thing at a friend's place, shoots pretty nicely. Shame they completely ignored left-hand shooters like me. :\

  • @neilmoors6415
    @neilmoors6415 Рік тому

    Nice pistol how about a review of the ATA Airborne in 177 keep up the good work 👏

  • @chrisbaker4849
    @chrisbaker4849 5 місяців тому

    9 months on and noone has these in stock, and they haven't for quite a while. I guess they've either stopped making them or there's a technical issue but good luck finding one!

  • @jamesdenny4734
    @jamesdenny4734 Рік тому

    Andy, I bought this pistol and unscrewed the cylinder, but there isn't a small hole to screw the fill adapter? Where did you find the price to screw in the fill adapter? A patient air gunner wants to know. 🙏🏼😇

  • @MelSaunders-d7l
    @MelSaunders-d7l 11 місяців тому

    Hi Andy, another good review. Are left handed grips available for this pistol. I would really like one but being left handed and shooting a right handed grip is a serious disadvantage. I have both the PP700 and PP750 and enjoy shooting them but neither has a match grade trigger. Best regards, Mel.

  • @krisley5178
    @krisley5178 Рік тому

    So you can fill the cylinder directly from a compressor?

  • @michaelschmid6430
    @michaelschmid6430 10 місяців тому

    Nice review! Do you know if the air cylinder is compatible with existing brands? (Steyr, Walther...)

  • @MistikFails
    @MistikFails Рік тому

    ADVICE NEEDED!
    Got a hand pump and new to it. Every time I push down the air sounds like it sputters out instead of coming out in one long breath. Am I doing something wrong or is this meant to be this way?

  • @Brutuz62
    @Brutuz62 Рік тому

    Can you show filling the pistol with air please? This was/is an issue, extra ring needed??

  • @Tony-kl5tz
    @Tony-kl5tz 4 місяці тому

    Snowy Peak should thy their hand at budget Olympic air rifles now

  • @WIImotionmasher
    @WIImotionmasher 2 місяці тому

    I would only want to fill from a compressor or pump, I'm not sure why they'd say don't fill it that way.

  • @thomascoyne157
    @thomascoyne157 Рік тому

    Look really nice 👍

  • @channex8179
    @channex8179 Рік тому +1

    Aren't Snowpeak an OEM for other low quality brands that make some pretty suspect Airguns?

  • @danielspain7231
    @danielspain7231 Рік тому

    Good job you explained the tripod I was going to start berating 😉
    Really enjoy the videos

  • @dave1534
    @dave1534 5 місяців тому

    I just bought this air pistol. I like it, but, thre is no way to recharged the PCP tube. The fitting that comes with the air gun is too short; therefore, does not connect properly and there is none to be found online that seem to fit properly. Very strange, but hey, at least I got about 100 shots out of it before it became a paper weight...

  • @jamess4522
    @jamess4522 Рік тому

    Is Snowpeak Chinese? What are they like for warranty and spares?

  • @ronleblanc9832
    @ronleblanc9832 Рік тому

    very nice target pistol but being left handed would need a lot more work on the grip for fitting

  • @Al-os2cg
    @Al-os2cg Рік тому

    Does anyone know if this will take a Steyr grip? As they don’t appear to do a left hand grip i though maybe I could use one of these.

  • @leekellet3853
    @leekellet3853 4 місяці тому

    Left handed version ?

  • @Yorkshiremadmick
    @Yorkshiremadmick Рік тому

    Not sure where all this firing is coming from on a Snowpeak Target Air pistol 🔫
    Nice looking pistol to shoot.

  • @Reapermesh
    @Reapermesh Рік тому

    I know what my next buy is going to be lol

  • @darrenmorgan9164
    @darrenmorgan9164 Рік тому

    Nice!

  • @059echo
    @059echo 3 місяці тому

    Looks a splitting image of the steyr evo 10

  • @artemdorokhin9934
    @artemdorokhin9934 Рік тому +1

    another good option for starters and juniors not to sell a house for a FWB or Walter

  • @MrMattw975
    @MrMattw975 Рік тому +1

    This looks like a copy of a Steyr LP10 ?

  • @ericdinnair4091
    @ericdinnair4091 Рік тому

    Can Anybody tell me I can where buy the case that comes with this pistol.Please

  • @Raining_lead_pellets
    @Raining_lead_pellets Рік тому +1

    I hope this pistol had its release date back on the first of April because that thing looks like a joke
    It might just be my bias towards more classic looking rifles and pistol but I don’t care how good of a pistol that is, I ain’t ever gonna think about buying that

  • @chrismclean2989
    @chrismclean2989 Рік тому +1

    Looking quite impressive to be honest… test targets are fired from clamped machine rests, no shame on that 👍👍👍
    Excellent price point for a beginner…

  • @aston108
    @aston108 Рік тому

    I think it may be run what u bring 😅

  • @scottw550
    @scottw550 11 місяців тому

    Only in the UK, and not in Canada eh? Pity.

  • @gamerchu
    @gamerchu Рік тому

    Nice review. Can this gun be shooted indoor or its too loud?