Comparing Tube Screamer Chips With This Custom Built Pedal..That I Found After 10 Years!!
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2024
- I found this strange pedal, turns out it’s a TS808 Tube Screamer Chip Comparison Box that I made over a decade ago!
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Gotta love a Tubescrearmer! Let me know if you have a favourite model, cheers!
I love the plimsoul. Has a second gain stage and you can run it on 18v if you want some more headroom. I have no idea what chip it has but this video showed me it doesn’t matter.
Nope.
Like I said earlier, I have a TS-10. It used to be considered the ugly duckling of the Ibanez Tube Screamer family (not counting the Sound Tank series which are definitely the worst). Ever since John Mayer put a TS-10 on his board, it has become highly desirable. I'm not a huge Tube Screamer guy. It really depends on the amp for me if I need to use it or not. Having said that, I probably have around 10 different Screamers. The Wampler Clarksdale is probably the best Screamer variant that I have. It has a very usable 3-band EQ and significantly more gain. The Digitech Hardwire series made a terrific Screamer, also, the CM-2. It has the low-end UHMPH that most Screamers lack. The Mojo Hand - Rook is another great TS variant. It has a 2-band EQ that is a big improvement, and it packs alot more gain. I think it is more "transparent" sounding than any other Screamer that I have heard. There are so many out there now. The Behringer is about $22 US. The best bang-for-the-buck is the TC Electronic - El Mocambo, $49 US.
Well, I wasn't listening through headphones, but the difference was so negligible that I personally wouldn't care which chip was in my TS. Stuff like this doesn't usually bother me anyway. I'm pretty easy to please. ✌️🇦🇺
5532 is another low noise operational amplifier, uses similar to the 4558 (consoles, professional audio equipment, microphone preamplifiers, active filters, etc.) The cool thing is that the TL072 - a little more noise floor - are widely used in a lots of cheap audio consoles.
The "interesting" op amps are the older ones, type 741, they had more imperfections (speed problems, "slew rate"), that's why in saturation events they sound slightly different. The TL 072 and similars have an input FET, they also saturate in an interesting way (the Sans Amp uses them like this, without clipping diodes)
Barely noticeable, and suspect if this was played to someone who didn’t know you were changing chips between loops they wouldn’t know. The noise floor test was a bit more different with the second chip sounding quieter than the rest to me.
Another great video - really useful 👍
This was an interesting comparison. The different chips sounded very similar, but there was a difference in the frequency and the volume of this frequency in the noise test. The 4558P had less noise...
I don't use a typical tube screamer, I use the Super Overdrive SD1 from Boss, with reduced drive, to get the shimmering in the tones.
Thanks for checking it out, cheers!
That was some beautiful phrasing, subbed and liked. Peace from Ireland to you and yours mo chara.
Thanks so much :)
I could only hear a difference with the noise floor. The third one, LF one, the was what sounded like a volume boost or something. I wouldn’t say it sounded better or even very different. I had to have earphones on to even hear it. Also great video! Keep it up!!!!
Thanks for checking this out!
Great video. I like pedal you built to auditing the various op amps! Would love to see how that mounting system is configured
Thanks, I may have to make another quick vid about that down the track, cheers :)
Yo amazing screamer
Thanks!
Several years ago, I put an op-amp socket in my TS-10 to accomplish basically the same thing. I found no perceivable differences. I did not have a 2134 to test, though. I still don't hear a difference except for the noise floor test. The JRC-4558P sounded the cleanest to me.
Yeah, pretty subtile for sure, thanks!
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar I appreciate the scientific approach that you bring to your experiments. I'm glad I found your channel!
For me, the difference is so small that turning the knobs on the pedal by 5% would compensate any variation in tone.
The main thing I noticed is that the last 3 were noisier than the first 2.
And came back for one more listening.
Same here
Heaps of differences, thanks for this test !.
No problem! Thanks for watching
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar Very interesting were the differences in sound throughputs and the differences in the sounds of the noise floors. Good to know about the 4558P being so quiet. Thanks again.
God that split coil tone was incredible! Actually sounded like a single coil. Did you add a resistor to one of the coil so it's not dumping the full coil to ground?
Thanks, they are McPherson Echo Coils, it has an interesting split which I will do a vid about down the track, cheers
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4855P did sound brighter to me... Great video
Cool, thanks
Listened a couple of times. Thougt I heard a small difference of the attack of the first note in the loop on the low gain boost part. And some chips might have had a tad better note clarity.
On the more overdriven part some chips might have been somewhat muddier.
But I wouldn't worry. I'd buy a bulk of a chip with low noise floor, good headroom and good frequency response for my needs.
To me they all sounded very similar in the lower gain scenario, maybe the JRC D was fractionally clearer than the rest. In the higher gain play through i couldn't hear a difference at all.
Thanks for checking out the vid and having a good listen :)
Great work 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Couldn't really hear a difference.
The NOISE floor had more variation than the signal processing did!
Very interested in this TS808 Tube Screamer Chip Comparison Box, but not finding any schematic link? Thanks, Glenn form Colorado
Sorry no schematic for this one, just a random workshop find, cheers!
Check the live video of Rick Beato and Nuno, who use a RAT, and how He dials it.
You can actually buy a Biyang (China) or Fame /Akai (OEM rebranded) overdrive for little money online sometimes I see them go for a tenner with a pre installed backdoor for the chip. It came with a few chips from the factory. I tried a lot of chips. The thing is in some circuits there is a difference, mostly due to a chip being a bit lofi due to slew rate (basically how close the output resembles the input) a good example is a RAT pedal. Too hifi (Burr Brown e.g.) sounds sterile because of the high fidelity represented in the final tone. You will commonly see a theme in vintage pedals where some holy grail chip will exist. Most of the time it is not a best in slot part but more so something that was cheap at the time. JRC (Japan Radio Company) 4558's come to mind as well as for example Fender using car lacquer and pine for bodies and cabs because pine trees surrounded the original Fender guitar factory lol. Mojo and hype does the rest. If you want cheap vintage JRC chips you can salvage them from lots of older electronics from the 80s. It is a very common OP amp in a lot of older stuff.
The question is would you here the difference in the Mix or when playing with a band! Listing with my studio monitors and then with my HD600 of the headphone output if my audio interface
Listening thru my studio monitors the difference was so negligible as to be not there.YT compression my be an issue, did it sound different in the room?
Thanks, I found the same at my end too, cheers!
"Audiophiles" do this OPAMP rolling with their headphone amps.
Yew Kiwis ennd your chups ay?
That sounds Australian to me 🤣
@@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar ;o) Choice ay bru?