Catholic Church does NOT bless Sin! (No Same Sex Unions Proof!)
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- Catholic Church does NOT bless Sin! (No Same Sex Unions Proof!) The Pope nor the catholic Church can bless same sex unions or relationships or sin. What the media says vs Catholic teaching are two different things.
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Jesus didn't come for the healthy but for the sick. The church is abundantly clear (including Pope Francis) that the church can't bless sin. I'll ask if they come to church for help to fight against their sin where else can get healing apart from the church? Nowhere else
When Brian gets up out of his chair, you know he’s over it. 😅
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Yeh, he's over it alright. He's completed his false proclamation. Everything associated with this cult religion is a facade to deceive. And you seem to have drunk the kool-Aid.
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Oh, how true! Brian got me pretty excited too! When he got up, I also got up, went outside and did a backflip! The documents are crystal clear amen.
I had a conversation about this topic with one of the priests at my Church. He gave some understanding & context. It’s easy to get caught up in how a Church action affects only our immediate community or even country. Francis has to make decisions with literally the entire world in mind. It’s a fact that people who engage in same sex relations are persecuted and even killed with the full approval of various religious institutions. By Francis allowing the blessing of these marginalized persons, while not blessing their sin, sends a powerful message that all sinners still deserve to be treated with basic dignity, respect and be offered the full opportunity to come to repentance. Up until this point, I was having serious concerns about Francis and his actions, but now I feel a lot more at ease. We must have faith and remember that the Church Christ established will prevail.
“The entire world”
It was written for the German heterodox church
Africa and Orthodox rejected it
It has further fractured the church
A dicastry document is open to interpretation and you can take it or leave it it’s not a papal document which is binding
There is a serious problem with reading comprehension these days that few people can even engage with this document and even fewer took the time to read it.
So true and so sad.
As Catholics, whether we like it or not, must afford the same amount of forgiveness to those who live against the word of God as God does to these sinners
Our Lord gave us all a Sacrament for the Forgiveness of Sins. We are all expected to use it.
@@WT-ShermanAnd what makes you think they don't use it? For those who don't, how can they be moved to use it without God's help? That's where the blessing comes in.
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If they are being confirmed in their sin , why would they repent ?
Case in Point - check out a recent OSV ( Our Sunday Visitor ) article. It’s about a former Methodist minister and her partner receiving a blessing. They are dressed up in formal wedding attire. This from a Catholic priest in Chicago. Do you think the local Bishop ( Blasé Cupich ) will reprimand this priest. ?
Not likely. This document has opened a Pandoras Box that will produce one scandal after another.
@@tabandken8562 You can ask for God's help ANYWHERE YOU ARE, so what you are saying is disingenuous and NO FS is not a means of confession of sins and in fact coming in with the person you actively are sinning with to get a blessing proves they don't want to change.
Each person can come in for a blessing as an INDIVIDUAL there's no need to bless both at the same time. The truth is this is just another excuse they'll try to use to excuse their behavior when God asks for an account of their lives.
It takes A LOT of evil to come in with the person you have no plans to get away from and NEVER plan to stop sinning with to get a blessing. Doing these things only proves full knowledge that what they are doing is wrong and a willful choice of sin. Ergo this entire FS was just another one of the many many many evil things happening in our church meant to confuse and distort God's will and it is too bad that people are so easily fooled by this evil and underhanded document. SAD.
@@irienerd8178 First off, don't assume 2 people are sinning just cause they come in together. Secondly, you obviously can't read very well.
Great video Brother!
Thanks for the clarification. God bless you and your work. 😊
Poor Brian throws up his hands 😂 Argh! Some of these people are just 🤦🏼♀️
They want to reject the Church.
Anti Popes !!!
@@leeveronie7850- Yes, we have a lot of them in America - Strickland, Burke, etc.
Yeah, people like the pope...
Thank you so madly for your clarification Bryan,Great job,God bless Your family and You🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️,good morning from here 🤝
The MAID program (medical assisted death) is in full swing here in Canada. I recently reconnected with an old high school friend and in our catching up he told me that his sister had chosen to end her life with MAID. She had been sick for some time. Apparently, her husband was sick as well and they both chose MAID. They died in each others arms. I am all at once stricken with sadness and rage. The MAID program comes right straight from the pit of hell.
Welcome to your Voluntary Suicide Center....just like in the movie "Soylent Green"
Somewhere, Jack Kevorkian is smiling.
I'm so sorry for what your friend's sister & husband were led to do! It is horrific & evil. They're offering this to the disabled as well because the system doesn't want to treat them, especially intractable pain patients. Wish the church would stand up against this sickening evil being peddled to our elderly, those who feel they're a burden on family, the disabled etc. They need to call this out firmly for what it is, yet sadly I haven't heard anything from the Vatican about this.
@@Vexx_Line_ What is unspoken is the Canadian medical system is bankrupt. The government has actuaries and it would be naive to think they haven't crunched the numbers if their liabilities were lessened. My wife was a practicing physician and we have 3 more doctors in the family and I know that community very well. There are many doctors and nurses who think they know better and it is rapidly heading in the direction that the decision to suicide will be made by the medical system and not by patients or their families. The MAID program is gaining acceptance in our society. My wife is very sick and I take care of her and the time is not far off where people will consider guys like me to be cruel for not putting their loved ones down like a family pet. This suicide/murder program is only beginning, mark my words.
Thank you thank you thank you Brian!
Not sure why people think the pope would undo 2000+ years of sexual morality. Jesus was pretty clear: "A man should leave his family and cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
Heterosexual. Monogamous. That is what marriage is.
Thank you for making this clarifying this. That said, we do have Catholic priests who are not abiding by this.
Only an individual can repent for themselves before God. If someone reaches for help, we need to reach out to them.
Aren't we suppose to be reaching out for them before they reach out for themselves? What if they are content in their sin and never fall low enough to realize they need to repent?
@@Matt-1926, that is a separate point which though related is complimentary to not a negation of the other comment.
@@josephodoherty7864 Thanks for the reply. I never meant my comment to be a negation of what he said. My only point was Jesus didn’t sit around waiting for the people to come to Him. He also reached out to the people.
In my opinion if you read what the WHOLE document actually says, and not just pick and choose certain statements, then that is exactly what this document is doing. It is reaching out to those in need of repentance and telling them even in their sin they are still deserving of a blessing that will strengthen them and be a path to lead them to repentance.
I forgot where I tripped over this argument, but Paul condemns slanderers in the same passage as those in disordered sins. Repeated slander is just as much of a problem as the particular sins of the flesh they keep harping on.
Serious Catholics should know the 7 deadly sins. Pride and wroth are still there. I want to hope that people who keep repeating lies repent, but it's hard not to be frustrated by situation.
The vices we may know. The virtues, not so much.
We mention it in the full video on this topic. Paul puts it in on par with murder and adultery and other sins like that.
Yes. I ask God to help chastise me and grow me out of those sins all the time as those who have knowledge are tempted even more by the Devil constantly because of the knowledge they have. Pride in the sense not to be arrogant in my dealings with others and thinking I am better choosing pride over humility, live, and gentleness, and wrath for failing to control my anger and tongue even after I speak the Truth to others about things like Jesus being present in the Eucharist. These two come together and the Devils knows they work well that way. It’s why I haven’t started my own UA-cam channel yet to address important topics like this but now I know it’s what God wants me to do for the sake of rebuilding the Catholic Church.
Thank you for this information Brian! It has now helped me appreciate and understand the nature of the dream like visions as blessings I had of Mary and Jesus while I was sleeping that my soul automatically knew them and called them by name speaking to my soul and instructing me.
Test every spirit.
@@atrifle8364Mary identified herself as the “Theotokos” from the Council of Ephesus and Jesus showed me his Sacred Heart like we see in the Divine Meecy Chaplet which led me to start praying it plus the gift of discerning the spirits was granted in those moments and my soul knew it was them instinctively. I had no doubt with the peace and clarity that came from their encounters strengthening me. Not everyone believed at first the Saints who saw Jesus and Mary appear to them either or even to this day with the Protestants.
@@Justyouraverageguy172 Just don't go against the catholic teaching and the Pope and you will not be deceived. Make sure the messages that you receive from your visions do not contradict the church teaching and you will be fine
Once your vision asks you to disobey the Church/Pope and teaches you contrary to the the Catholic Faith, it means your vision comes from the devil, not from God
@@marietav7342The direction was to be an image bearer of Christ like herself through obedience and love of God.
@@Justyouraverageguy172 There's nothing wrong with that message. Just always be obedient to the Church and the sitting pope because no matter how good or holy the message seems to be, if a vision asks you disobey the Church and pope, 100% your vision is not from God but from the enemy.
I agree with everything you said. At the same time, I went to a Diocesan Mass this past Sunday and personally witnessed two females who were obviously "together" as a couple go up to the priest and receive "a" blessing. To everyone's credit, they did not receive the Eucharist. It is confusing, even for someone who is well-versed in Church teaching.
It can be for sure. Sadly.
Activists? Looking for a story? If you see them again, watch to see if there is a camera person with them.
@@HAL9000-su1mz I don’t recall seeing anything along that line. However, cameras are so easily concealed now.
@@sitresjolie2343 Just a thought I had. These days, it is trial by social media.
Thank you for this good sir! Now I know God is calling me to be like you as an apologist and also correct our fellow bothers and sisters who are in danger of losing their souls to the tricks and deceptions of the Devil in this topic and more.
The document is a dicastry document and not a papal document and therefore is not binding on the clergy they can take it or leave it.
What I find despicable is not only that these people are causing scandal. It's the how; they have to twist the words of the Pope in the worst ways possible. While Pope Francis's pontificate is far from perfect, I find these attempts at showing how evil he is and all he does as a Trojan Horse for progressivism at every turn to be wicked. Thank you for this brief yet needed video!
Which document are you reading ? Sounds like the document put out by the CDF. (. Now called DDF ) back in 2021. Those words are not in FS. The 2021 document was issued well before Cardinal Fernandez became the Head of that Dicastery. The latest Document specifically talks about blessing same sex couples.
Chair exclamation!
Sebenarnya disengaja tidak mengerti apa yang ditegaskan dokumen itu untuk membuat bingung yang goyah imamnya tapi di Indonesia kami sangat memahami maksud dokumen itu sehingga kami umat khatolik Indonesia sangat menerimanya trimakasih Tuan atas pengajarannya maju terus Tuhan Yesus memberkati syalom Indonesia
“That is not the sacrament.”
- Pope Francis
This is what I don't get: if you're a faithful Catholic who believes in Papal Infallibility as the Church officially defines it, then you have to believe that it's impossible for any Pope - including Francis - to authoritatively change doctrine or teach anything contrary to what has been received through the deposit of faith. God Himself literally prevents it from happening no matter what. However, if you talk to some so-called "traditionalists", you'd think that the gates of hell really have prevailed against the Church.
How many times is this Pope going to say something completely idiotic
Any times are people going to leave idiotic comments without looking at the facts first
1st to comment. 🙏📿✝️❤️💚💙
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Who said it? Where is the opening quote from?
Fiduccia Supplicans.
Actually, this one is from The Responsum 2021 document. The reason why we quoted this document so extensively in our full video is because that's what Fidducia Suplicans and Cardinal Fernandez rely heavily upon and always refer back to. It's not necessary context for the newest document which Catholics don't seem to understand. Which is why I spent the whole full video putting it all in the proper context.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial thanks. Maybe you could add that in your comments above for people like me who did not view the full video? Also, you said "It's not necessary context for the newest document which Catholics don't seem to understand. ". Do you mean it IS necessary context?
There are 3 stages of spiritual life.
1) purgative stage
2) illuminative stage
3) unitive stage or transforming union
People or souls in the purgative stage still commit mortal sins or fall into mortal sins.
Souls in the illuminative stage don't commit mortal sins anymore but only venial sins including some deliberate light venial sins but not serious venial sins. Serious venial sins can lead to mortal sins.
Souls in the unitive stage only commit a few light INdeliberate venial sins. Some of them don't even commit ALL venial sins but only imperfections. These souls are almost perfect already.
If you still commit mortal sins, you are still in the purgative stage. You have not yet mastered controlling your passions. But souls in the illuminative and unitive stages already have.
People or souls in the purgative stage don't have deep understanding of spiritual matters, scriptures and teachings of the Church because they still fall into mortal sins.
Souls in the illuminative stage have deeper understanding of spiritual matters, scriptures and teachings of the Church than souls in the purgative stage because they don't commit mortal sins anymore but only venial sins including some deliberate light venial sins.
But souls in the unitive stage have the deepest understanding of spiritual matters, scriptures and teachings of the Church because they have the purest souls or they don't commit mortal sins and deliberate venial sins anymore including light venial sins. They commit only a few light indeliberate venial sins. Some of them have not committed even venial sins but only imperfections. They are almost perfect already.
Prideful souls are those who believe that they understand spiritual matters, scriptures and teachings of the Church better than others including the pope and anyone who opposes their understanding on spiritual matters is wrong including the pope and they are the only ones right. BUT THEY STILL COMMIT MORTAL SINS OR STILL FALL INTO MORTAL SINS.
They must ton (reverse) be believed when it comes to spiritual matters and interpretation of scriptures and church teachings. They are protestants and/or rad trads or those who oppose the Pope and other church authorities.
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At 2:23 you should have been holding the mike...so you could have dropped it.
Lol!
2:36 ya that is it. Why the confusion?
Because they (our enemies) want to destroy our Church
So we must bless individuals individually in separate rums! Anything else... Well, then there is a flow in your argument. Veritatis Missio
For the sake of confusion, we think that should be the case. While it's said that they can go up to receive individual blessings together, they also said that nothing has changed in this regard and the relationship still is bot being blessed. But for many people, it looks like that's what's happening. And for many confused priests that might be happening. So our opinion is that since it could be confusing, just to actually have it done individually.
Honeslty, to say that blessing a homosexual couple is different than blessing a union of two homosexuals is pure sophistry. A same sex couple isn't simply two people being blessed together. It's ontologically a thing which is disordered, since the ESSENCE OF A COUPLE IS THE UNION which connects two people.
Yes it is just to people being blessed together. We cover that later in the video. Also the church herself makes it clear that's what it is. The quote in this particular video is so clear that those things CANNOT be blessed.
Along with a general loss of hope, Catholics and 'non' are seeking reasons NOT to believe these days.
Honestly, I look forward to a single example of clear and concise teaching. I am developing patience.
The pope has come out very clearly against transgender, abortion, gay marriage, and other things.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Ultimately true. But, like an onion, we may have to peel layers away to find it. The media ("the world") never helps.
Unfortunately there is enough ambiguity and confusion from that document that leads people to believe you can. Just like the synodal way that open the door to this nonsense. We have James Martin who believes we can bless these unions. Unfortunately the pope encouraged him. You are correct that the pope didn’t bless these sinful unions. Modernism is the problem
Not at all. The document is clear but the misrepresentation by the media & "Bad Actors" can't be a reason for the Church to stop teaching.
@@josephodoherty7864 so there was at least 1 priest officially blessed a same sex wedding He latter walked it backed. This is the problem with current leadership they have permitted this by laying down ways for priests to do the incorrect or incompetent thing and then take it back after parishioners complain. Yes the document states not to bless them in a ceremony. However if you have a TLM priest or conservative bishop do nothing wrong They get forced out. This type of thing needs to stop.
Is Deuteronomy 13:12-18 Moral or Ceremonial law? It’s hard for me to tell the difference
Hello! Thank you for your reply. Deuteronomy chapters 12 to 28 give a whole series of liturgical, civil, and criminal laws all deriving from the fact that Israel is the people chosen by God to carry out his promises. From my reading of it, it appears to be a civil or criminal law.
Brian, then why are these homosexual couples being blessed?
Because they sought the priest for help to ask for God’s help on intercession of their behalf whether they are aware of it or not of their sinfulness because only those the Father has beckoned can approach Jesus and the Catholic Church despite their sins.
Why does Pelosi do what she does? Why do Catholics contracept? 1. Either they dont care about God or truth. They just do what they want anyway. (Fr. James Martin). 2. People listen to the news media instead of the Church. Even good Catholics are guilty of this. 3. They read the documents for themselves like Protestants do the bible and come up with their own interpretation.
We talk about it all.farore extensively in the full video.
Think it this way, brother. Why are you blessed if you're a sinner yourself? Let that sink in for a minute.
Did you watch the video ? It sets out who can be blessed (or not) & why these INDIVIDUALS would appropriately be seeking God's help in that struggle. It clearly explained the "relationship" sexual activity CANNOT be blessed- it is NOT about (blessing) or "allowing" that.
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Listen to me carefully: Jorge Mario Bergoglio and "Tucho" Fernández are the head of homosexuality in our Church, and yes, they both decided to authorize homosexual marriage by blessing the union, not a particular and specific person.
That's a lot of Hell Bound slander. So they both are the head of homosexuality in the church and authorized homosexual marriage all while condemning homosexuality and homosexual marriage. Got it. You are monumentally confused. Slander is on par with murder and adultery in the Bible and you just committed it. The Bible says no slander will enter the kingdom of heaven.
When did we need to have a blessing explained, if a priest has the authority of his bishop to bless two gay men then he can, a dicastry document filled with private interpretation isn’t necessary, are we going to have a dicastry document explaining why the dicastry would like to think nobody is in Hell, we don’t need anymore private interpretation, that’s what brought about Gnosticism and Protestantism.
It's Because of the German bishops who WANT to bless sin! The dissidents in Germany want to bless same sex relationships and homosexual couples and the church is saying NO!
The German bishops during the evil Synodal Way came out with a document about blessing same-sex couples. At the very beginning of the document, it asks for the ***liturgical rights*** to be developed to bless same-sex couples who love each other. It even talks about partnerships being completely in society and accepted Therefore must be in the church too. This is for any person of any sex, including same sex attraction who truly love each other.
So, they are not only blessing couples, but they are blessing sin. They are going directly against the teachings of the Church on homosexuality and moral living. This is exactly why the document that the Vatican produced says again and again and again that the church cannot bless sin! This seems to be a direct response to the German bishops. This is also the reason that the document said multiple times that these ceremonies canNOT be liturgical or formal or public in any way. There is no celebration. There is no public ceremony. It's literally going against what the German bishops wanted.
What else was the Catholic Church's response to this? "The church does NOT have the power to impart blessings on unions of same-sex couples!"
Also the Vatican document said: "We should neither provide for nor promote a ritual for the blessings of couples in a irregular relationship." It goes on to say that they can have a brief and spontaneous blessing, along with a prayer that asks for them to be healthy and to do God's will completely.
It stresses that these people need to be living the Gospel and be in accordance with God's will according to the church's teachings.
So, while the German synod was calling for homosexual liturgical rituals and blessings for sin, the church has said NO. But not wanting to turn people away from the mercy of God who may seek it, they are allowed to have a private and simple blessing to obtain the grace for conversion in their life.
Finally, it goes on to say that none of this legitimizes homosexual relationships (40). But rather it calls them to live according to God's laws, not man's, and to follow God faithfully.
So we do NOT see a justification of relationships, unions, gay marriage so-called, or anything else as many people are claiming like Father James Martin who does what he wants anyway and doesn't even listen to Scripture.
We see a smackdown of the German bishops who want to legalize and promote all of this. They rejected the 2021 document that the Pope put out, and so this is a further more lengthy explanation of why the church does not accept their position but rejects it And gives some lengthy explanations on it.
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Clearly there was no need for the dicastry document it changed nothing and caused confusion by trying to explain a blessing, because if the bishop gives permission then a priest can bless two alphabet soup people, the document allows for private interpretation, to help the German bishops , but it’s not what they want
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If Pope Francis wanted to condemn the German bishops and make understanding of blessings binding he should have issued a papal document but he didn’t and left the door open to private interpretation.
You are right, it changed nothing. It didn't change any church teaching and it reaffirmed the church's teachings especially to the German Bishops who wanted to make gay marriage. The media made the confusion as always, and Catholics who read the document out of context or just assume that the pope hates the church and wants to kill it. They are the ones who did the damage. Not faithful Catholics who actually obey the pope and the church.
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So why didn’t the pope make the document a papal document and binding rather than a dicastry document open to private interpretation
I agree that the holy father, whom I give all due respect, has not authorized same sex unions or any of the wild stuff people are saying, but I don't agree that it is a simple matter. This language is very difficult to understand and there are going to be people who misunderstand it on both sides of the issue, and we should always be concerned about unintended consequences. I think it is overly complicated and probably unnecessary because I'm certain gay people, as individuals, have been able to receive blessings from priests in the past. Anyone can be blessed, even in mortal sin... Everyone receives a blessing at mass and no one asks "are you gay? Are you an adulterer? Have you been to confession recently?" Trying to address these issues in this way, I fear all it really does is present a stumbling block to people on both sides of the issue, at a time when we're more divided/polarized than ever, AND catechesis is probably at a low point, where most people probably don't even know what a blessing really is. So you try to talk to people about catholicism and now in addition to having to answer questions like, "aRnE't yAll the ChUrcH thAt WorShips MarY???" and "I hEaRd YoU gUys sAy We CaN buY oUr waY to HeaAveN!" we have to also answer to the charge of being the gay church or whatever. I just wish the priority was to give less ammo to the bad actors (remember the Amazon?) and be laser focused on evangelizing and catechizing the entire world. Of course, I'm not the pope, and really these matters of the vatican are or should be none of my business as a lay person, but if asked my opinion, these are my feelings on the matter.
Ron, in part, your definition reads, “ It is necessary that what is blessed be objectively and positively ordered to receive and express grace.” If you followed your definition of what can be blessed, none of us would qualify. The issue of gays and their rights to enjoy love in the way heterosexuals do has been at the forefront of late. I am not referring to one-night hookups which are forbidden in the same way they are for heterosexuals but rather, couples living in loving monogamous same-sex relationships that reflect the love God has for all His subjects.
While I agree that gay marriage as defined presently by the Catholic Church is not possible, there remains a growing effort for the Church to recognize the love, partners in monogamous gay unions, have for each other. While this type of marriage sacramentally is not possible, allow me to explain what might be.
There is a social/sexual revolution coming in the Church. In one aspect of this coming revolution, the Church wants to expound on Pope John Paul’s central idea in “Theology of the Body” and how it centers on the fact that God wants a deep intimate loving relationship with each of us in the same way a committed monogamous heterosexual couple enjoys. It is not meant to reflect this in the physical sense but is mirrored in that way, to reflect the deep love God has for each of us, and the Church attempts to bring to light, to celebrate the joy and exultation that comes from such a love.
The Catholic Church’s stance on homosexuality has long been that it is not inherently sinful, as a person does not choose to be either homosexual or heterosexual. However, the Church has always taught that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered” and “contrary to natural law”. According to the Catholic theology on sexuality, all sexual acts must be open to procreation by nature and express the symbolism of male-female complementarity.
The Catholic Church’s stance on homosexuality has been founded on the belief in a natural order created by God, as it has been based on the idea that sexual acts should be by the natural law of procreation and male-female complementarity. This theology has been used to form the Church’s view on the sacrament of Marriage and the notion that marriage is only permitted for a union between a man and a woman. “Male and female he created them.” (Gen. 1:27)
Recent scientific developments, however, may influence how the Church addresses this issue in the future. Some feel God may be working in His Church to rectify a wrong that has survived for centuries. Could the coming changes in the Church and yes, changes are coming, possibly be the work of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised? Could Pope Francis be His messenger in all of this?
The principle of doctrinal development in Catholicism allows for the Church's understanding of its teachings to evolve and develop over time while still preserving the core truths of the faith. Some examples of this are Original Sin, the Trinity and the doctrine of Purgatory, the Eucharist, the Canon of Scripture, religious liberty, social justice, and the role of women in the Church and society, to name a few. Should the beliefs of the Church in the area of homosexuality and same-sex unions not evolve when presented with modern scientific evidence that proves otherwise or, should She remain with Her head in the sand in the interest of maintaining the status quo and “preserving the gospel”? The Catechism says, the Church and Her theology, cannot be at odds with science (CCC 159). The Church teaches that faith and reason must always be in agreement or, one or both, are in error (CCC 36, 286).
Medical experts have stated they can find no studies to show that homosexuality is an abnormality in the human person. Experts now widely agree (American Psychological Association (APA), World Health Organization (WHO), American Medical Association (AMA), World Medical Association (WMA), National Academy of Sciences (NAS), National Library of Medicine, and many other numerous research studies) that homosexuality is a natural variation of human sexuality rather than a conscious choice made by individuals or an unnatural disorder the homosexual was born with.
Scientific studies NOW conclude that homosexuality will make up 3% of the population, no matter what, and that homosexuality IS part of the natural order. So, it seems our knowledge of this matter has changed. Should not our theology develop and evolve in light of these new findings? After all, aren’t homosexuals made in the image and likeness of God, as we all are?
If we are not to dispute the scientific and medical consensus, the question then becomes, are homosexuals not allowed to carry out God’s plan of love and commitment in the best way possible, in loving monogamous same-sex unions? Are they not allowed to participate in true love and commitment that mirrors Christ’s love for us on the cross in the same way heterosexual couples who have impediments to marriage, are given dispensations by the Church, even though they cannot fulfil all marriage requirements? It is through no fault of their own, that gays are who they are. God made them as surely as he made you and me, and we all know, God doesn’t make junk.
The Catholic Church's position is that any union of the flesh outside of a man and a woman in a sacramental marriage is inherently disordered and a sin. That will never change. Paragraphs that amount wishful thinking will not change that either.
The Catholic Church is not changing it's teaching because it cannot as the reveal truth of God.
It sounds like you are trying to justify homosexuality and supposed good relationships. But there's nothing about that in scripture. In fact we have a whole entire video debunking all of the verses that in scripture. In fact, we have a whole entire video debunking all of the verses that homosexual activists have hijacked and tried to mutilate and interpret scripture, or reinterpret scripture. But the bottom line is the Catholic church does not accept homosexuality, whether lustful or loving, monogamous, or not. There is no basis whatsoever in any church document or in any church teaching over 2,000 years that promotes the relationships or marriages or unions or anything of the sort of sort.
And the documents that we quoted here and more at length than our full video talk about how the relationships can never be blessed even if they are loving and monogamous, because they're intrinsically disordered before God and not according to the church. So to try to justify that and then say that this has been the teaching of the church is just erroneous
Video: The Catholic view of homosexuality: ua-cam.com/video/fndl7q15KwU/v-deo.htmlsi=ACKE-SfbHxrKlKpW
Video: what the Bible says about homosexuality:
ua-cam.com/video/QCJaEMltbUc/v-deo.html
@@atrifle8364 Teaching can change. The Church once officially taught that the Sun revolved around the Earth. The Catholic Church condemned a man as a heretic and confined him to house arrest for the remainder of his life because he claimed the Earth revolved around the Sun. It took five hundred years for the Church to get it right and for Pope John Paul II to officially apologize for this error. There are many instances where the Church got it wrong and had to reverse its teaching. Condemnation of homosexuality is not a “revealed truth of God” as you say, but rather the product of teaching over 2,000 years of Bishops and Popes who did not have the benefit of modern science. As I said, Truth and science cannot be in conflict with one another and the Church recognizes that as well.
God will be done.
Indeed!
Yeah..sure. The "Return to Tradition" channel reported that Frankie took a pacha idol into a church and participated in a gathering to re-write the 10 commandments.
I dont agree withTony Stines reluctance to take positive action against what Frankie is doing, but I see no reason for him to lie.
Spare us your B.S.
I don’t know what Tony said, however I would just point out that the Bible states even if we don’t agree with someone we should still show respect to them if they are in a position of authority. So just the fact he refers to him as “Frankie” would tell me all I need to know to be able to come to the conclusion that Tony isn’t telling the whole story.
Just my thoughts on this.
@@Matt-1926 Let me clear this up right now .I...refer to him as Frankie, because I refuse to defer to him in any way shape or form.
I do not consider him to be in a position of authority.To me, the ultimate authority IS the Word.
Anthony Stine calls him "Bergoglio"
@@donreinke5863 Ok fair enough. The way I see it according to the Bible you both are in the wrong. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s authority doesn’t give you the right to disrespect them. Don’t you get it doesn’t matter what the Pope said as soon as you people show disrespect all you are proving is the type of person you are. Which is a person that no one should trust.
You are free to disagree with my opinion, but all I am asking you to consider is are your words the words of a Christian disciple?
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He does not refer to him as "Frankie". And yes people should be able engage in debate or ask questions about important topics which concern the church, families & society as a whole; especially when PF himself supposedly wants the layman to be more involved, or so he said during what many consider the most absurd event the CC could have ever dreamed up (synod of synodality). However, when they do get involved by actually researching these documents, what they imply & how they fit into sacred tradition/magisterium, they get slapped w accusations.
@@Vexx_Line_ *_He does not refer to him as "Frankie"_*
Who? According to the last post the guy admitted to using the disrespectful term.
*_And yes people should be able engage in debate or ask questions about important topics which concern the church, families & society as a whole_*
Agreed, as long as they are going to debate on the understanding of the entire document and not just pick and choose one sentence insist that the debate must only be on this one sentence outside the context of the rest of the document.
*_especially when PF himself supposedly wants the layman to be more involved, or so he said during what many consider the most absurd event the CC could have ever dreamed up (synod of synodality)._*
Just curious why do you think the Pope wanting to hear what is on the minds of layman is absurd?
Also, I thought the Synod of Synodality was Bishops not layman?
*_However, when they do get involved by actually researching these documents, what they imply & how they fit into sacred tradition/magisterium, they get slapped w accusations_*
From what I am seeing the only ones getting slapped are the ones not researching the ENTIRE document. They are the ones just picking and choosing certain statements and claiming these statements (out of context of the entire document) don't fit, seems to me they are the ones making accusations about the document that don't exist.
Maybe you could give some examples of what you are seeing?
God Bless
The Church had not even allowed married priests yet.
Ive long suspected that some of the Apostles were married as it was Jewish custom to do so in the era of Jesus.
Just wanted to point out that there are married Catholic priests, so not sure where you are getting your information from?
@@Matt-1926 I mean is that how could the church allow same sex union when it had not allowed married priests yet (in the Roman rite)
@@johnchrysostom330 Ok I get where you were going with this.
Hello, thank you for your reply. The church actually does allow men in the Eastern rites who are already married to join the priesthood. Also, Anglican, Lutheran, and Orthodox converts who are priests and married are able to retain their marriages and become Catholic priests.
Five short months ago, Fr. James Martin SJ wrote on 'X'. "The Vatican's new declaration "Fiducia supplicans" is a major step forward in the church's ministry to LGBTQ people and recognizes the deep desire in many Catholic same-sex couples for God's presence in their loving relationships." Emphasis on "God's presence in their loving relationship"! Let me remind you Fr. Martin is a Vatican insider, close to the Pope and in a position of influence. Somebody is lying. Either you are lying or the Pope is lying, or you both are lying because you both have an agenda. If you believe F.S. does not change anything previously taught by the Church in 2000 years. you are strongly mistaken. My proof lies in the reception and the function of the declaration. It has already been used to bless sin with no oppostion to stop it. That's all the proof we need.
That's because it's Father James Martin. Someone who wants the teachings of the church to change. And so of course he's going to try to promote that, undermine it, and not really care. He's already broken what the documents said as proof that he doesn't care. He's already done it in ways that the document specifically say not to do. That's like quoting Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden or some other awesome Catholic and saying they did this and they said that. People who don't want to follow the teachings of the church don't have opinions. There's always going to be rebels in the church. If Catholics actually got on board from the beginning and defended the church instead of attacking it and taking the side of the media then there could be more unity and Clarity and we would not have these problems, but alas, we have Catholics who undermined the whole thing and saying that mortal sin was being endorsed and all of this other nonsense.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Then start calling out the rebels! Start with the bishops who give holy communion to Biden and Pelosi. This is where disunity begins, by becoming hypocrites and not standing up for the truth.
@CatholicTruthOfficial You remind me of a democrat politician for Bergoglio(Biden).
@@ferdinandsantos9341 Wow, are you a misjudge of my Catholic sentiments and convictions! I think you are more likely a Bergoglio(Biden) groupie.
So what who's bothered this day and age?
People who care about truth and morality, and God
@@CatholicTruthOfficial when has it been interested in that pedo priests and snatched new born from their mum's selling them over seas and calling them sinners and using the mothers as slaves. Come of it you can't see evil paganism when it's starring you in the face.
@@robertpearson7685
Woah there boatload of slanderous bs! Check yourself before you rek yourself. Maybe check into Anger Management too, you obviously are badly in need.
Brian, maybe you ought to get up out of your chair about this:
"The Vatican's surprise announcement that authorized the blessing of same-sex couples - while still upholding the church's ban on gay marriage - was celebrated by many queer Catholics and their allies as a significant win for inclusivity, though one more of philosophy than practice.
'This is huge for the LGBTQ community,' said Richard Zaldivar, the founder and executive director of The Wall Las Memorias, a Los Angeles health nonprofit serving Latinos and the LGBTQ+ community - who is also a self-described proud, gay Catholic. 'It’s about dignity and respect.'
When he came out, Zaldivar said he stopped attending Mass regularly, unsure of where he fit in the church. But his faith was important to him, and now he sits weekly in the front row at the L.A. Cathedral with his partner, making sure they kiss during the sign of the peace. He is hopeful this very public acceptance by Pope Francis will help more queer Catholics feel welcomed and accepted, even if it still falls far from marriage equality.
'I think we’re very blessed to have Pope Francis with us in the world today,' Zaldivar said. 'I applaud him; I know that change is very difficult and slow.'"
Approval of marriage is next. How absolutely evil and pathetic. Keep lying and putting that fake smile on!
Approval of marriage is not next. Don't slander the pope and don't slander the church and don't blaspheme and insult the Holy Name of Christ and his Spirit who guides the church into all truth.
Also you either didn't watch the video or you didn't listen to it. It seems like you just ignored the clear Church teachings and passages on this. Just like a good protestant. We will pray for you though.
The church did not teach anything wrong. So why don't you blame those who refuse to listen to the church and take it any way they want to. Those who listen to the media rather than to what the church teaches.
This is how radicals work. They start their own interpretations and they start their own media campaigns so that they can influence many other people. Maybe we should just get rid of the Bible since the Jehovah's Witnesses misuse it as do the Mormons and Protestants out there. Maybe you should get out of your seat that so many people are misusing the Bible and trying to justify homosexuality using biblical passages.
You fool! I did watch your video and I am giving clear present evidence that you are a blatant liar. The proof is out there. That is why I sent the quote of Richard Zaldivar from MSN. You just don't want to admit your organization is moving to the acceptance of the sexual fornication of homosexuality.
Priests everywhere are blessing homosexual unions now, legally. And homosexuals are elated. They have no problem with you denying it, as long as your organization keeps moving toward ultimate approval of them marrying. You need to throw those quotes you presented right out the window.
I do speak against homosexuality wherever it is committed or sanctioned, just as I do about adultery and bestiality. As I told you, you and your religion know nothing about marriage and its violation, through sexually immoral engagements. And yes, you are very much a cult, as JV's and Mormons. You are either brainwashed and don't know it, or a willful violator of the word of God.@@CatholicTruthOfficial
"They start their own interpretations..." You mean like the Catholic organization did a long time ago. It is Catholicism that falsely interprets, but also declares things that aren't even in Scripture and are made-up doctrines with the lie that they were given to them through Apostolic Authority. Kinda like the Pope now approving the blessing of defiled same sex unions. Talk about radical. It sure looks like he is trying to justify homosexuality. After all, as he said, "who am I to judge." Your religion teaches a lot wrong and non-biblical, because it is not guided by the Holy Spirit, as you presume and deceive yourself into thinking. As I told you before, you don't know the Holy Spirit. @@CatholicTruthOfficial
Brian, was Mary good?@@CatholicTruthOfficial
But priests are blessing sinful unions because of this new document and are misleading people.. Africa has made their stance on this very clear. This has opened up a can of worms that cant be stopped. Sadness for our church.
Many African Bishops not only support this document and the pope and the Catholic church, but they have written the most beautiful acceptance of it and an understanding of it that many others don't have. Some Africans who have not studied it in depth do not accept it. Just because priests are doing things they shouldn't, doesn't mean the documents bad. We have Protestants abusing the Bible and doing all sorts of evil and sinful Things based on scripture, yet scripture is not the problem but there are obedience to it.
I tried to defend the veneration of saints, and I thought it was a good argument, but this was a rely I got back:
The only biblical intercessor between God and man is Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5). Him and no one else. So praying to God using anyone other than Jesus as a mediator is not only not going to work, but completely unbiblical. Oh, and as for the "veneration" argument, the dictionary meaning of veneration is in fact worship. I.E. by showing veneration for Mary (or any other dead person), you are in fact worshipping her which is a violation of the first and second commandments. A violation of the first, because you are making a literal god out of someone or something other than the God of the Bible. A violation of the second, because of the graven images of Mary that many Catholic churches have today. It is my hope and prayer that you and every other practicing Catholic will come to understand the danger behind this "veneration of saints" that the Catholic Church is infamous for, and repent.
For the question. Check out our video on this topic. It'll help you.
Is Jesus the only mediator? ua-cam.com/video/8yWHh6oc5Jw/v-deo.html
We also just did a video on veneration and adoration. Check that out too. It's somewhere in this video. ua-cam.com/video/13MRNf7Efjo/v-deo.html
Just wanted to point out his reply makes no sense. Jesus Himself said pray like this….OUR FATHER who art in heaven. Jesus never said pray through me so I can meditate your pray to the Father. Sure it doesn’t prove prayer to the Saints but if does prove your friend is clueless to the Biblical understanding of “one mediator “.
As for the definition of veneration that isn’t the only definition, just google it. It says to honor or have great respect for a person or thing.
Sorry to have to tell you this but there is no amount of evidence available that will convince a person with a closed mind.
Stop, please...I suppose many bishops, cardinals, and the orthodox church are all wrong about the document, and your popesplanning is correct. If so, there is no need to have written it in the first place. Plenty of videos of Fr. Martin and others in orgastic glee.
People who reject the papacy and the faith unsurprisingly are getting the document incorrect. Having to appeal to unorthodox opinions of all varieties should offer a clue about where the truth lies. It's not a majority vote by people in some form of schism with Peter
They are wrong about the document, and have listened to the media too much and too heavily, that's why we spent almost an hour going through the two documents and the clarifications all put together for context. You can't get around these quotes. They were infinitely clear. And there's more to come.
Christ be with you
no, I do not know why you don't understand it is not about the document it is about the perception it give.
When a homosexual couple come up the perception is that you are blessing the thing that makes them a couple.
If this teaching can lead on person to think that the Catholic Church may be blessing the sin and be thus led astray it should not be done.
However, not all possess this knowledge. But some, through former association with idols, eat food as really offered to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.
Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do.
But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.
For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols?
And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died.
Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble. (1 Cor 8:7-13)
Please stop defending this teaching
we know it by its fruit, (Matt 7:15-20)
God bless you
What about the Bible? So many souls have been lost because of the Bible or rather because of reading the Bible (by their own or without seeking the guidance of the Church or without conforming to the interpretation and teaching of the Church) Is it the fault of the Bible and those who wrote It? Who are to blame for the loss of so many souls because of the Bible or rather because of reading the Bible (by their own). Now, you can apply this to FS document. Thats why scripture says the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth.
A pope may lead people to hell by his bad behavior but NEVER by his official teaching because when a pope is teaching authoritatively or officially, Christ is the One who is teaching us and speaking to us even if he is personally bad which is why criticizing and challenging his official teaching is a grave sin that you need to confess because it is Christ who you are criticizing.
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Christ be with you
Did you read what I said or just give a standard response.
Though the FS document is confusing but I do not think it is heretical.
But this in itself is a problem
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.
As in all the churches of the saints, (1 Cor 14:33)
the real problem is you see two homosexual get blessed and you do not understand the contents or have never read it you can be lead astray into think the Church somehow approves this behavior.
The lack of censor on Father James Martin already has many thinking that and this only reinforces it.
Jesus has allowed flawed men to work in his Church on his behave, It is not criticize a teaching he told us to do it. (Matt 7:15-20) we would be disobedient to him if we chose to not follow this teaching,
I can see the fruit of confusion.
I do not believe the teaching is false, I believe it has sown a bad fruit.
God bless you
It is very possible that the FS document may lead catholics to sin or to sin more BUT it is not the fault of this document or the person who wrote it and approved it if this would lead catholics astray and to sin but the people who misrepresent and misuse it for their own evil intention. This document will not make genuinely humble, obedient and faithful catholics sin but only those who are prideful, disobedient and rebelious catholics .... just like the Bible.
@@MrKev1664 Yes, I read your responses. Yes, God is not a God of confusion yet still, Jesus had "caused" confusion among people even among His apostles/disciples with His teachings. Why did these people get confused with Jesus's teachings? It's not the fault of Jesus and His teachings but theirs because they did not have the Holy Spirit. But when the Holy Spirit came down upon them on Pentecost, the teachings of Jesus became clear to the apostles/disciples. They now understood Jesus's teachings and they did not get confused anymore esp Peter.
I agree, that's why even if the Pope Francis will be replaced by another pope, I'm praying that many people will come to Catholic Christianity
A lot of the things that the Catholic Church call a sin aren't even sins, I'm glad I left the Catholic Church. By the way I'm also an ex homosexual.
LOL, like what exactly? I'd love to hear what you as a simple sinful human being have deemed "not a sin" because like it or not the Catholic church is the ONLY Christian church on earth started by God through Jesus with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Any other "Christian" church on earth is man-made and isn't in the fullness of God's Truth.
Hello, thank you so much for your reply! Could you provide some examples of sins that are not sins?
@@catholictruthreplies Before I say what I'm about to say I would like to state that I vote Republican. Smoking marijuana in moderation is not a sin, I also don't consider worshiping idols to be a sin, the use of psychedelics for spiritual and shamanic purposes is also not sinful. I also only consider homosexuality sinful if penetration is involved.
The papacy is a unbiblical authority, no one needs, so FORGET all his comments. Waste of time
Hello, thank you for your reply. I believe that Matthew 16 proves otherwise.
If you tell a joke and nobody understands it and you have to keep explaining the joke and still nobody understands the joke stop telling the joke because it isn’t funny
It depends. If you tell someone the punchline to a joke, or the answer to a math problem, but they continue to listen to a group of people who are giving the wrong answer, then how is that helpful? They're not listening to the correct source. And then there's another group of people who just refuse to listen to whatever you say whether it's true or not.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
That’s clearly not what I said your using a straw man argument, my point is your explaining a joke over and over again and it isn’t funny repeating the joke is funny to you and nobody else so stop explaining yourself.
This dicastry document is open to interpretation you can accept it or not, because it’s not a papal document it’s just one persons view and opinion and you can agree or disagree,like l hope there is no hell, etc etc,it’s private interpretation.
The only thing Catholics should be concerned about about is the sacraments and prayer without this there is no church and no salvation
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
When did we need to have a blessing explained, if a priest has the authority of his bishop to bless two gay men then he can, a dicastry document filled with private interpretation isn’t necessary, are we going to have a dicastry document explaining why the dicastry would like to think nobody is in Hell, we don’t need anymore private interpretation, that’s what brought about Gnosticism and Protestantism.
Except that we're not repeating a joke much less over and over again. People who care about truth care about what we say. And the document is not open to interpretation. Even if it were, you have to understand the context which you clearly don't. In which explained over 1 hour. So we've put in the research where it doesn't seem like you have. But either way the church is the final Authority on what the document means and they have they're teaching clear on it. That shuts down our private interpretation on the matter.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
So what your saying is I’m a moron and all those who disagree with you are morons, because you have been given secret knowledge Catholic morons don’t understand.
What l understand is the dicastry document is open to private interpretation, if it wasn’t then the pope would have made it a papal document and binding.
God is not the author of confusion; the pope is another story. Blaming confusion on the media is just denial of the obvious.
@patriceagulu8315CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
SECOND EDITION
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
@@markwilson1724 And that's perfectly fine and correct. Because is true.
Muslims sincerely believe they are worshipping the True God and believe in Him [ _«they profess to hold the faith of Abraham [...]»_ ]. That they do it wrongly and have been deceived by a false prophet, that's a different issue. But they do believe in the one true God.
@GranMaese What do scriptures
say?.
1 John 5:12
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1 John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved
@patriceagulu8315 What is the Gospel of God of the Bible?
@patriceagulu8315 There's no limit to Jesus love for all of those who trust IN him.
Jesus came to Save Sinners.
Those Who repent & trust in Him as LORD & saviour
For He is the way the truth & the life.
No man cometh to the Father but by Him.
Ye must be born again
Catholic truth, it might be Catholic truth, but it certainly isn't Biblical truth that Catholics teach.
There's no such Biblical thing as a pope.
The Bible, Biblical Greek and Aramaic, and the Biblical Greek grammar, as well as the English grammar, proves that Jesus didn't build His Church on Peter.
But you are so blinded by the devil, that you can't see it.
Said no one educated ever, dear brother, with all due respect.
The Bible, Biblical Greek, Tradition and factual history all prove Jesus build His Church on Peter. [Nobody cares about English grammar when studying the early years of Christianity, harsh but true].
If you have been deceived to believe otherwise by false teachers that go against all facts, history, etc., that's on you [or rather on the guy that lied to you], but not on the Church.
@@GranMaese read my previous message and stop believing the Catholics erroneous beliefs.
You don't care about the English and Greek grammar, because you know they prove you wrong.
Hello Alan, thank you for your reply! Catholic truth is indivisible from biblical truth. The pope is in Matthew 16. Jesus did build his Church on Saint Peter. Perhaps it is you that is blinded by the devil? Where did you develop your interpretation of scripture?
@@catholictruthreplies There was no Catholic Church until the 4th century, and the first pope was even later. You don't know your own Church history.
The Greek, Aramaic and the Biblical Greek genders prove that Jesus didn't build His Church on the. But you Catholics aren't allowed to believe the Bible when it proves you wrong.
The Aramaic word for Peter, (Cephas), means a "Stone" as Jesus Himself said. Jn 1: 42. The Aramaic word for the Rock, (Shua) means, a "Large firm foundation".
Two different Aramaic words, two different meanings.
The Greek word for Peter, (Petros) means a "stone that's easily moved or shaken", Didn't Peter prove it? Yes he did, he swore, cursed, lied and denied knowing Jesus, and Paul had to rebuke him.
The Greek word for the Rock is (Petra) a "large firm foundation".
Two different Greek words, two different meanings.
In the Biblical Greek, there are Genders, and they have to agree in order to build a doctrine, so,
The Greek gender for Peter, is "Masculine" , whereas the Greek gender for both the Rock and the Church, are "Feminine", so, Peter doesn't agree with either the Rock or the Church, so you can't build a doctrine on Jesus building His Church on Peter, But you can build a doctrine on Jesus building His Church on the Rock.
What is the "Rock" ??.
It's the revelation that Peter had about Jesus being the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Unless people get the revelation that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, the saviour, know one could be saved. But people can and do get saved without Peter.
I know that you won't believe this, because you aren't allowed to believe the Bible when it proves you wrong.
No, the Catholic church doesn't, but Francis does, and his cohorts
@KeeperPlus : you are rude! It's Pope Francis to you! You come onto Catholic forums to attack Catholics! your behaviour speaks volumes. You are not of God!
The word “devil," comes from the Greek word diabolos, which can be translated as, "to divide
Whenever we see division occur in the world, especially division that pits one group in society against another, we can affirm that the devil is in some way behind it. He wants us to destroy ourselves and hatred against other people is one of the fastest ways we become the authors of our own demise.
Jesus, on the other hand, desires unity.
I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me. And I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are one. (John 17:2).
Matthew 7:19 Any tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown on the fire.
The sign of the presence of the Holy Spirit is unity, if you look at the protestants, there is no unity because of the numerous denominations; they are divided.
Get off Catholic forums troll!
Do you believe the Seat of Peter is vacant?
Traditional Catholics love and respect Peter as the Vicar of Christ. This open disregard of the office and their authority is the modernism.
Slanderers receive the same condemnation as persons involved in debauchery. Keep that in mind when you make patently false statements.
We don't need your analysis on this matter because you have been unable to find out the truth because your mind has been darkened by sins.
Question: What was The Church used to do? Regarding blessings, what is FS adding or changing to that practice?
Nothing changed, quite literally. Most guidance from the Vatican is just "freshening" the status quo. I believe FS claimed to add to the understanding of the nature of blessings. For sure nothing changed in practice.
This whole thing was mostly to shoot down the German Bishops who wanted to basically have gay weddings in the Catholic church and blessed sin. And the Catholic Church came out and said we can't do that. But if individuals are sincere and want to follow God's Commandments they can receive a blessing to help them do that.
Read both of those guys comments before my post here and put them both together for they create the full picture of why FS has to come out.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial So, The Vatican took time to issue a document a few days before Christmas for no reason whatsoever? Gays could get blessed before FS. Am I missing something?
There is an African saying: "Don't be pissing on my back and telling me that it's raining."
@@TheLeftRbabieskillers- That's not an African saying. It's an American one and you got it wrong. Also read FS for yourself, although it's only addressed to bishops.
"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Rat poison is 99% good food and 1% poison.
We were promised good pasture under the care of Peter, not poison.
Pope Francis made a historic change to Vatican policy Monday, allowing priests to bless same-sex couples.
Source: media. Not the church. That's lesson #1. Media vs what the church actually said. But anti-catholics don't care about truth sadly.
The pope did no such thing. Anticatholic media twisted his words, and Protestants ran with it. Sadly, even some priests didn't read everything the pope wrote
Do not be deceived by those fake prophets and teachers! Jesus himself in Matthew tells us “even the elect will be tempted to go astray if possible in the last days” meaning Jesus already predicted this was going to happen and now we are seeing the elect being led astray inside the Catholic Church and those outside of it being responsible for making that their mission from the Devil. The Catholic Church can never go astray or be destroyed as Jesus promised
@BruceBlitzHasTits : are you thick? Do you still believe main stream media? Or a you just a troll! Get off Catholic forums troll! Your username says it all!
Rule #1 about modern Catholic News: Go read the source material for yourself. Almost noone, including ", conservative" Catholic outlets is getting it correct.