Riven's natural voice is very nice. I could chat with her all day. Also, why WOULD she grant our wish? Thinking she'd be cooperative after killing her and smashing her eggs was just naive.
Because this way she ensures that we have to deal with the future wave of Ahamkara as her last bit of revenge. She knows that it's we have to put up with her demands or else everyone and everything is erased, so she can really demand anything, though due to her nature as an Ahamkara it requires a bargain. Also, she does not want the universe- including herself and her clutch- erased from reality.
She's looking for the continuation of her species, since they're exinct. As it is with all species, id personally prefer that my species continues to exist lol
Granting wishes is the same to Ahamkara than eating is to us, so if there was only 1 type of food in the world, and someone is waving it in front of you, one naturally is inclined to ''eat'' but nothing is forcing them to eat either.
But from what I know they like to grant the wish with a twist. So you say I wish I don’t have to do this test tomorrow. You get out cause of a school shooting. Think genies but worse.
@@putridhalo7927not totally correct, most smaller wishes can have an agreed upon price you pay. Where the bigger the wish the more existential it becomes.
It's nice to see (and hear) Mara Sov acting like a queen again. Her VA, Kirsten Potter, is absolutely brilliant at delivering all kinds of her character's emotions.
I like how everyone's talking about chatting with Riven when they forget: Christmas time is nearing, along with Destiny 2's "The Dawning". Remember when we sent Riven some holiday goodies before fighting her?
Been looking for someone's take on this. You can see the "I've got an idea" look on Mara's face before she mutters...something. And then she affirms the bargain. She's already got some kind of loophole. Bet on it.
@@teo2216 hey there, I dont wanna be leaked but I still have a question. The wish Riven can / will grant, its still Savathuns wish right? And we currently dont know what wish that is, can you just say on a scale from 1 to 10, with 0 having no side effects, and 10 having really really bad sideeffects, how bad will the wish be?
Hold up did anyone even notice that the first frame of the cutscene that shows Mara walking to Riven (overhead shot) that the floor literally looks like the witness. The 2 ponds are the eyes and the white floor it it’s skin color. It’s freaky like omg I can’t be the only one.
Scenario: We secured Riven's eggs and bring her in front of her at the place. Ikora, Mara Sov and the Techuens are present along with Riven. Riven wishes herself back into existence. Mara Sov is going to state the 15th wish, but our guardian cuts-in and says to Riven to not give any negative consequences in this 15th wish to any of the wishing side (knowing that there are always consequences to making wishes with Ahamkara). Riven says that it's not possible to do the wish without any consequence. Our guardian says that "if you don't do our way, say bye to your eggs (showing a remote detonator in hand and the bomb on the eggs)". Mara and ikora suprised at this revelation. Riven says "You dare threaten me guardian, me Riven of a thousand voices". Riven says to Mara Sov, "This wasn't the deal". Guardian says, "The terms of the deal have changed. We have already wasted a lot of time for finding a way into the Traveller, we shouldn't more on you if you are more nuisance than help". Riven screams at everyone and tries to take her eggs. Our guardian destroys one of the egg's in an instant using the detonator. Our guardian says, "Don't be under the illusion that you are the one in control of the situation, (pauses) we are". Ikora says, "Guardian that wasn't the plan, don't do anything wrong in hast". Guardian says, "I say this not on behalf of the Vanguard but myself, that if we suffer any consequences from this wish after you have taken your eggs. I will come and hunt you down for your eggs and destroy them in front of you, and then kill you." Riven agrees to the Guardians terms. NOTE: This is just my rather dumb imagination which makes the guardian seem badass and ready to take any action necessary. Might be childish.
While you call this scenario childish. With heavy tweaking, this could be a possible outcome. The Ahamkara as a species wish for an existence superordinate to ours. They exist in the D2 world and they want to exist in ours by implanting their presence as a thought in the player’s mind. What better way to threaten Riven than by ending her existence in the D2 universe and hence, any chance of entering our world? Riven must understand this is a zero sum game. We can afford to destroy her eggs because this wish is to save the universe, and not just us. If she doesn’t grant the wish, she will die once more and so will her eggs if the witness succeeds. She knows she HAS to grant the wish. Except she wants to do it in a way to benefit her. So we are in full position to threaten any profit she makes because the alternative is mutually assured destruction.
Am i the only one who hopes one of Riven's hatched offspring becomes a friendly ally of ours? We raise it and it becomes, not really a pet, but a friend that helps us in future endeavors?
Wow, impressive cutscene. I'm sure it's good enough to keep all the poor blueberries around after you scam them out of $15 for a Pay2Lose Starter Pack on top of the $400 of other content required to play.
Didn't u see it got leaked crow will go inside the traveler no one dies when riven grants the wish she says only 1 persln can go inside Mara Sov and osiris decides it shall be crow bcs Mara can sense crow and besides Mara Sov is too powerful now to die
Okay, okay. I've been looking at this several times. It's obviously impossible to read lips in a video game, but you can see Mara mutter an aside to herself just before she affirms the bargain. She's got a plan. But what?
Can we get a new Glaive that adapts it's visuals and damage to your class type only make it slightly weaker than the specialized damage type class specific Glaives since it would be cooler than the rest 😅
We killed Riven 5-6 years ago. I’ve been waiting on Destiny 3. So long, my fellow guardians. I remember my main warlock in Destiny 1. Should’ve moved on from d2
Saw the new season prices and prices on the gear this season, how do you guys figure inflation effects the in game currency value. Really trying to milk a dead game for what it's worth huh
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤BUNGIE, BRING BACK NO LAND BEYOND WITH A DAGGER OR BLADE ON IT AS A SNIPER WITH A BAYONET SNIPING GLAIVE! AND MAKE A TEX MECHANICA M1 GARAND WE NEED AN M1 GARAND DESPERATELY WITH ITS SIGNATURE PING IN THE GAME!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why did you make countdown terrible!? Why countdown rush! The spawns are terrible there's never enough time to get back if you are defending or if you're attacking, AND HEAVY SPAWNS EVERY MINUTE ITS RIDICULOUS! GOD DAMNIT BUNGIE!
@@coasterplay1062 don’t get me wrong, I love D2. Been here since D1 Beta. And I’m enjoying the new season so far but my immediate reaction to a cutscene that takes minimal effort to get to in the first mission to be uploaded two days later tells me that player population isn’t at what Bungie wanted it to be and is trying to attract back more players. Also my original comment was meant to be satire. Not at all to be taken seriously.
@@coasterplay1062 That's literally what they live by. Their gameplay is becoming more and more mediocre with all the exotic and ability nerfs. You're just stating facts. 😂If you think my opinion is trash try gilding your conqueror title and then talk.
@@Falcon5o85we are quitting, and soon you’ll realize you saying “just quit” screws you over when you’re the minority playing this game. People leaving is bad for a game’s health. It’s why servers get shut down, get some bloody standards instead of sucking that bungo boot
This writing is such trash. “Let me prattle off exposition of what has happened in the past with the most bland dialogue ever.” They did the same bull with Savathun last season. Ultimately all of it is due to the miserable season approach to stories. All you CAN do is say leagues of pointless exposition to returning or inattentive listeners.
MA QUEEENNN MARA EMUACH EMUACH EMUACH EMUACCHHH 😘😘💕💕💕💕💕 HER EYES, HER FOREHEAD, UUOOGGGHHHHHH, HER FEET AND HER BATHWATER HHMMPPHHH AAAHHH I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT ITT I WANT IT AAALLLLLLLLL 😭😭😭😭😭😭 what? you say Mara aren't real? no No NO NOOOO......SHE IS REAL IN FRONT OF MY MONITOR, HHMMPPHH AAAHH MARAAAAA, I'LL BE WATCHING YOU TILL THE END OF THE SEASON 🥰🥰🥰🥰💕💕💕💕 I'LL BE GREET YOU IN HELM EVERYTIME I LOGIN, AWWW YEAAAHH RAAWWRR MARAAA MY AWOKEN QUEEN 💕💕💕💕💕💕
The part when riven said "if you were to secure the $15 starter pack, then you would also secure your wallets desire" went crazy, fantastic narrative.
Too late.
Fun fact: The fact this cutscene is named 'Bargain' is a genius, yet subtle reference to the Witcher Skin pack costing 60$.
Wait what
Don’t forget about that sca… I mean started pack they had up for $15
@@baalgar5530yup, if you bought all 3 sets of armor (not including the pack that has the ghost, sparrow, and ship), it would cost $60
What?! It’s 60$? Jfc what a scam
@@arkemondfor all 3 armor sets. It’s $20 a set
Riven's natural voice is very nice. I could chat with her all day. Also, why WOULD she grant our wish? Thinking she'd be cooperative after killing her and smashing her eggs was just naive.
The voice actor killed it, which adds to the presence of safety which lures you in. Though genuinely just sitting and chatting with her would be fun
Because this way she ensures that we have to deal with the future wave of Ahamkara as her last bit of revenge. She knows that it's we have to put up with her demands or else everyone and everything is erased, so she can really demand anything, though due to her nature as an Ahamkara it requires a bargain. Also, she does not want the universe- including herself and her clutch- erased from reality.
She's looking for the continuation of her species, since they're exinct. As it is with all species, id personally prefer that my species continues to exist lol
Humanity is doomed
I have not killed riven or destroyed her eggs.
I just want to pet riven.
I want to pet the dragon
LET ME PET THE DRAGON
1st shot looks like the witness's face.....mf is always watching
Oh that is a very cool observation.
I swear Destiny 2 has faces and eyes dotting all over the environments
yoooo-
That’s sick af
OH MY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT
Definitely thought "Can an Ahamkara DO that? Is that legal??" when she refused to grant the wish.
Granting wishes is the same to Ahamkara than eating is to us, so if there was only 1 type of food in the world, and someone is waving it in front of you, one naturally is inclined to ''eat'' but nothing is forcing them to eat either.
Yeah me too but then I thought there had to be more than just entering the wish
But from what I know they like to grant the wish with a twist. So you say I wish I don’t have to do this test tomorrow. You get out cause of a school shooting. Think genies but worse.
@@putridhalo7927not totally correct, most smaller wishes can have an agreed upon price you pay. Where the bigger the wish the more existential it becomes.
Riven: I will make it legal
It's nice to see (and hear) Mara Sov acting like a queen again. Her VA, Kirsten Potter, is absolutely brilliant at delivering all kinds of her character's emotions.
" Reeeeeeeee!! You *MUST* find all my eggs.....but not too quickly, only 1 per week tehehe"
Wait this made me laugh. 💀
Love how the season's entire plot hinges on Riven going "NUH UH"
Mara Sov:WHAT DO YOU MEAN "NUH UH"
Riven looks so good in game and in this. Yall went crazy so far
I like how everyone's talking about chatting with Riven when they forget: Christmas time is nearing, along with Destiny 2's "The Dawning". Remember when we sent Riven some holiday goodies before fighting her?
Is it just me or does the beggining look like the closeup of the witness
yep :D
LET.
ME.
PET.
THE.
DRAGON.
1:47 Mara is obv mumbling and having a plan for Riven. She's def not the one to reckon with.
Been looking for someone's take on this. You can see the "I've got an idea" look on Mara's face before she mutters...something. And then she affirms the bargain. She's already got some kind of loophole. Bet on it.
dormammu I’ve come to bargain
Haha
0:04 birds eye view makes it look like thr Witness face
Goes without saying: We're gonna be screwed over somehow.
I love the part where mara talks with riven and riven says "to unlock bargain option, please purchase $400 worth of dlc". Truly the game of all time
Can Riven grant us wish to make bungie less money hungry?
Riven VA is god tier
The indefinite return of the Ahamkara dragons. Now that's rich.
RIVEN! I've come to bargain
Wait a minute...
Riven didn't agree to get us through the portal.
She said she would grant Mara's heart desire.
Is Eido coming back?
No.(I watched the leaks and no at least not from a wish)
@@teo2216 hey there, I dont wanna be leaked but I still have a question. The wish Riven can / will grant, its still Savathuns wish right? And we currently dont know what wish that is, can you just say on a scale from 1 to 10, with 0 having no side effects, and 10 having really really bad sideeffects, how bad will the wish be?
@@user-oo3oi9ki2jthe wish is "to pursue the witness"
1:46 Mara definitely muttered something under her breath that would alter the bargain.
The soundtrack for this cutscene is good, want to know what sound track they use. And damn Riven VA sounds amazing.
You sold me on the premise and Coil is fun... Let's see if they can stick the landing with the story...
RIVEN I HAVE COME TO BARGAIN
1:01 the shell of what was
Noticed that too, cool detail
Why is the audio out of sync?
Hold up did anyone even notice that the first frame of the cutscene that shows Mara walking to Riven (overhead shot) that the floor literally looks like the witness. The 2 ponds are the eyes and the white floor it it’s skin color. It’s freaky like omg I can’t be the only one.
Oh my god your right
Scenario:
We secured Riven's eggs and bring her in front of her at the place. Ikora, Mara Sov and the Techuens are present along with Riven. Riven wishes herself back into existence. Mara Sov is going to state the 15th wish, but our guardian cuts-in and says to Riven to not give any negative consequences in this 15th wish to any of the wishing side (knowing that there are always consequences to making wishes with Ahamkara). Riven says that it's not possible to do the wish without any consequence. Our guardian says that "if you don't do our way, say bye to your eggs (showing a remote detonator in hand and the bomb on the eggs)". Mara and ikora suprised at this revelation. Riven says "You dare threaten me guardian, me Riven of a thousand voices". Riven says to Mara Sov, "This wasn't the deal". Guardian says, "The terms of the deal have changed. We have already wasted a lot of time for finding a way into the Traveller, we shouldn't more on you if you are more nuisance than help". Riven screams at everyone and tries to take her eggs. Our guardian destroys one of the egg's in an instant using the detonator. Our guardian says, "Don't be under the illusion that you are the one in control of the situation, (pauses) we are". Ikora says, "Guardian that wasn't the plan, don't do anything wrong in hast". Guardian says, "I say this not on behalf of the Vanguard but myself, that if we suffer any consequences from this wish after you have taken your eggs. I will come and hunt you down for your eggs and destroy them in front of you, and then kill you."
Riven agrees to the Guardians terms.
NOTE: This is just my rather dumb imagination which makes the guardian seem badass and ready to take any action necessary. Might be childish.
While you call this scenario childish. With heavy tweaking, this could be a possible outcome.
The Ahamkara as a species wish for an existence superordinate to ours. They exist in the D2 world and they want to exist in ours by implanting their presence as a thought in the player’s mind. What better way to threaten Riven than by ending her existence in the D2 universe and hence, any chance of entering our world?
Riven must understand this is a zero sum game. We can afford to destroy her eggs because this wish is to save the universe, and not just us. If she doesn’t grant the wish, she will die once more and so will her eggs if the witness succeeds.
She knows she HAS to grant the wish. Except she wants to do it in a way to benefit her. So we are in full position to threaten any profit she makes because the alternative is mutually assured destruction.
Destiny execs "write that down. Write all of it down NOW!!"
I love riven so much more now
If I knew a wish dragon I would wish Salvatori wasn't fired. Bro actually ended up my #1 artist this year.
thanks bungie for making sure i dont have to play your game to know whats going on
Bruh, it's just a cutscene
Boah you are so cool 😂
Uncommon Bungo W
Is this the longest season ever? Due to the delay
Masterpiece !
Am i the only one who hopes one of Riven's hatched offspring becomes a friendly ally of ours? We raise it and it becomes, not really a pet, but a friend that helps us in future endeavors?
Riven, I'm come to bargain.
Love this Game
Not again, I got a bad feeling about this. Well, I hope we have good luck. 🍀
Riven.....I've come to bargain...
The audio is off sync
Wow, impressive cutscene. I'm sure it's good enough to keep all the poor blueberries around after you scam them out of $15 for a Pay2Lose Starter Pack on top of the $400 of other content required to play.
Have people not heard that they pulled the starter pack? So many comments about it
All wishes come at a cost, mara sov is definitely going to die😭
Didn't u see it got leaked crow will go inside the traveler no one dies when riven grants the wish she says only 1 persln can go inside Mara Sov and osiris decides it shall be crow bcs Mara can sense crow and besides Mara Sov is too powerful now to die
@@ahmedimranimran5100 zawg just had to spoil it 😭
@@Darkmondayll Im sorry i had to 😭
@@ahmedimranimran5100 you good 👍 lol
@@ahmedimranimran5100crow… and not our guardian? The main character. Wow, f-ck us.
Mara has come to bargain
DORMAMU, I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
I CALL APON THE COMMUNITY!
Bungie loves hiding secrets in cutscenes relating to wishes.
Okay, okay. I've been looking at this several times. It's obviously impossible to read lips in a video game, but you can see Mara mutter an aside to herself just before she affirms the bargain. She's got a plan. But what?
Does she say, "...her eyes?" "...Sjur Eido?" And do we even really know what Savvy's wish really was?
It baffles me that they put sm work into cutscenes an story, only to entirley vault it, providing no context to what the heck is going on.
I come to bargain
Still dont know why yhese cutscenes are 30fps on ps5 and Series X
Damn Mara got them hips
Titanfall: Season of the Re-Skin
Can we get a new Glaive that adapts it's visuals and damage to your class type only make it slightly weaker than the specialized damage type class specific Glaives since it would be cooler than the rest 😅
We killed Riven 5-6 years ago. I’ve been waiting on Destiny 3. So long, my fellow guardians. I remember my main warlock in Destiny 1. Should’ve moved on from d2
Huh?
Saw the new season prices and prices on the gear this season, how do you guys figure inflation effects the in game currency value. Really trying to milk a dead game for what it's worth huh
All good guys, I’ll beat the ahamkara. I’m the difference.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤BUNGIE, BRING BACK NO LAND BEYOND WITH A DAGGER OR BLADE ON IT AS A SNIPER WITH A BAYONET SNIPING GLAIVE! AND MAKE A TEX MECHANICA M1 GARAND WE NEED AN M1 GARAND DESPERATELY WITH ITS SIGNATURE PING IN THE GAME!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
My wish is that they actually make a game instead of a playable micro transaction
Mommy Mara❤
0:41 The Riven is dead?
We wished for her death in the last wish raid
Dude we killed her in forsaken ages ago
@@junnKhyawe did not wish her dead. We killed her on Mara’s order.
Why did you make countdown terrible!? Why countdown rush! The spawns are terrible there's never enough time to get back if you are defending or if you're attacking, AND HEAVY SPAWNS EVERY MINUTE ITS RIDICULOUS! GOD DAMNIT BUNGIE!
There are other places to complain
play this game more guys
Bungie really out here making it so players don’t have to play their game.
Odd strategy
It's just a cutscene
Since Destiny is a game that lives by its cutscenes and not its gameplay right? Some comments are so stupid they should be forbidden
@@coasterplay1062 don’t get me wrong, I love D2. Been here since D1 Beta. And I’m enjoying the new season so far but my immediate reaction to a cutscene that takes minimal effort to get to in the first mission to be uploaded two days later tells me that player population isn’t at what Bungie wanted it to be and is trying to attract back more players. Also my original comment was meant to be satire. Not at all to be taken seriously.
@@MedaMatchaEliteignore the bungo bootlickers, as a former d2 player they attack anyone that harms their second coming of Christ that is bungo
@@coasterplay1062 That's literally what they live by. Their gameplay is becoming more and more mediocre with all the exotic and ability nerfs. You're just stating facts. 😂If you think my opinion is trash try gilding your conqueror title and then talk.
Common bungie w
Slight error, think you meant *uncommon
@Zomtism week one this is one of the best seasons in destiny, if you don't like it just please quit. Toxic people like you are just kinda annoying
@@Zomtismno rare Bungie w
@@Falcon5o85we are quitting, and soon you’ll realize you saying “just quit” screws you over when you’re the minority playing this game. People leaving is bad for a game’s health. It’s why servers get shut down, get some bloody standards instead of sucking that bungo boot
I wonder how many of the 8% worked on this. To bad their company doesnt appreciate its hardest workers keeping this dumpster fire alive
Más de lo mismo
🥱🥱🥱
🤣🤣
This writing is such trash. “Let me prattle off exposition of what has happened in the past with the most bland dialogue ever.” They did the same bull with Savathun last season. Ultimately all of it is due to the miserable season approach to stories. All you CAN do is say leagues of pointless exposition to returning or inattentive listeners.
ausbw
By far one of the most annoying seasons out there.
This game has gotten so bad :(
Dead Game
Dead game.
MA QUEEENNN MARA EMUACH EMUACH EMUACH EMUACCHHH 😘😘💕💕💕💕💕
HER EYES, HER FOREHEAD, UUOOGGGHHHHHH, HER FEET AND HER BATHWATER HHMMPPHHH AAAHHH I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT ITT I WANT IT AAALLLLLLLLL 😭😭😭😭😭😭
what? you say Mara aren't real? no No NO NOOOO......SHE IS REAL IN FRONT OF MY MONITOR, HHMMPPHH AAAHH MARAAAAA, I'LL BE WATCHING YOU TILL THE END OF THE SEASON 🥰🥰🥰🥰💕💕💕💕
I'LL BE GREET YOU IN HELM EVERYTIME I LOGIN, AWWW YEAAAHH RAAWWRR MARAAA MY AWOKEN QUEEN 💕💕💕💕💕💕
ok I support the witness now
@@LogaMCme too. The Witness at least doesn't make me to buy $15 starter pack.
Am I gonna get charged for watching this???