Brexiteer Doesn't Understand Sovereignty Or The Good Friday Agreement!
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Former DUP Leader and GB News host Arlene Forster spoke to Ruth Dudley Edwards from Ireland about a hard border on the island. It didn't go well...
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If Ruth Dudley Edwards loves England so much, why doesn't she renounce her Irish citizenship? I'll bet it's because she loves the freedom of EU movement that comes with an Irish passport.
Her Irish passport should be removed from her for stating shit and lies.
@@CKW10001It would help if the Irish government asked her and her ilk if they'd like to publicly renounce their Irish citizenship perminatly, watch the excuses for keeping Irish citizenship being manufactured before our eyes. No other nation on earth would tolerate such a disrespectful attitude.
@@liamm.1431 agreed. But fat chance that will happen as all political parties in Ireland are afraid to upset anyone and are too soft when it comes to this issue.
Res ipsa loquitur, surely?
@@CKW10001 Why do you think she has an Irish passport?
We Irish people 'don't think things through', says Ruth. Alas, we should have learnt from those great forward planners Boris Johnson and Liz Truss!
🙃🙃🙃🙃
Totally agree! However, she is not very coherent. I actually think It is her that has not thought things through to the end!
Ireland clearly had a strong plan in place as soon as the referendum results came through. I’m guessing that the strong support from the EU was a direct result of strong diplomacy, honed from centuries of colonialist abuse. Whereas the Uk didnt even appear to have a back of an envelope plan for Ireland, probably relying on a colonial ‘we’re bigger than them” mindset.
Yeah she says that defending Brexit of all things.
Don't forget the man who set all this up, Nostradumbass himself, David Cameron.
Brexiter doesn’t understand… just leave it there
@@Jj-ff9vq 4.5%. Your point is?
I like it, very nice!! It's a shame we are no longer a full part of the European community.
Brexiteer doesn't..
Works too
Ruth Dudley Edwards has some wacko views on Irish history. Irish people comparing the EU to the British Empire is so bizarre.
She has some wacko ideas, Period!!
Ms Dudley-Edward’s is best described as a ‘Castle Catholic’
She lives in Britain, and earns a crust by telling right wing Brits exactly what they want to hear about Ireland.
These two idiots are busily proving that their knowledge of both Ireland and the EU is both wide and deep.
Ma Dudley-Edward’s claims about Irish sovereignty are completely baseless.
Sad eejit!
the Eu is one of the reasons that you can now travel to the irish island without being afraid to have your hotel blown up
I’ll tell you why Irish compare the EU to the UK. It’s because the EU acts more like an empire than an economic alliance. The EU set rules that have nothing to do with international trade and then fine you for disobeying. Not to mention the EU flirting with the idea of an army. It’s about sovereignty. Not having a foreign government telling you what to do.
You could argue that Ireland is free to leave if we wish, but that’s not exactly an honest way to depict the situation when the EU passes censorship laws, thus limiting the free-flow of information, which is crucial for any hope at meaningful change.
That’s why we compare them to one another, they are both authoritarian.
Arlene is not Irish
Ruth Dudley Edwards 🤦🏻
Britain was an unwanted unwelcome invader that tried to and actually did, exercise brutal control over the native people.
On the other hand, the EU is a willing partnership and alliance of nations that works towards and strives for the betterment of all members.
Ruth, please wake up.
People like Ruth will never wake up to such an argument. The unfortunate and disturbing reality is that centuries of imperial rule in Ireland led to a not insignificant minority of Irish peoples' minds and souls being colonised.
These two women are prime examples of it; their minds are still colonised!!! Even now, in 2024
@@Jj-ff9vq that was 400AD - any chance of staying on topic
@@Jj-ff9vq .....................and what has that got to do with the topic at hand? Oh wait!! Now I get your point - you wanted to offer nonsense on a par with that being presented by Arlene & Ruth. Well done indeed!
@@Jj-ff9vq you're not making much sense to me. You've jumped from 400AD to 1922 and I'm still not sure what you're on about
@@Jj-ff9vqIf you're tired Jj go to bed .
But if not , perhaps you could give half a dozen benefits of Brexit that have actually improved the standard of living of people who voted for Brexit , especially people from the so called red wall constituencies.
Ireland has the sovereignty to leave the EU if it should so wish, just as the UK had the sovereignty to leave the EU. The difference is that the Irish realise there will be consequences that will not be good if they leave the EU, the English arrogance decided the ramifications of leaving was just scaremongering.
Far easier to leave the EU than to leave the UK. Britain sent terrorists to Ireland to try and stop it leaving. The Black and Tans murdered their way around the country. International pressure forced Britain to withdraw them. (They were formed by head terrorist churchill)
Yes, the Irish have not been swamped with the massive anti-EU propaganda from corrupt politicians and media moguls the way the Brits have over many years.
Dudley Edwards may be from Dublin but so was Edward Carson, she's an Irish unionist
I prefer the term, Westbriton
To be fair Edward Carson had far more brain cells than Ruth Dudley Edwards
@@williammcguinness6664 OK. You "prefer" Westbriton? Yes it is west of the Scots, the Welsh, the Cornish, and the Breton, but there are NO Eastbritons, since they are all descended from the illegal immigrants, the Angle, Saxe and Jute, from Germany and Denmark.
Better to be thought a Fool than to speak to speak & remove all doubt! 🤦♀️
ironic.
It is very hard to listen to these people. WTF! Did they not go to school! Its like listening to a MAGA US citizen. Not educated.
Ireland is so much better off in the EU. Honestly!!! How many generations of Irish left home for jobs in the UK or US, why was that?? The EU is the best thing that ever happened to the country and most Irish people know that. This woman is spouting absolute bollox, just like Foster
And this is the reason why David Cameron should NEVER have called his reckless referendum and should have stuck two fingers up to fools like this,Farage and the other Eurosceptics and kept the UK in the EU.Cameron,now Lord Cameron,Foreign Secretary,has a lot to answer for!😾
And this is the reason why David Cameron,now Lord Cameron,Foreign Secretary,should NEVER have called his reckless referendum.He should have stuck two fingers up to fools like this,Farage,UKIP and the rest of the Eurosceptics and kept us in the EU.Cameron has a lot to answer for.
Emigration is the government's solution to actively destroying living conditions in this country for their own enrichment. This country is a massive tax evasion and money laundering funnel for the worst people in the world. The idea that things are good here is silly regardless of UK or EU since we won't elect people who aren't directly benefited by leaving us poor and homeless while more money passes through than ever and we have the most ready to live in houses while they are kept off the market by speculators. Every person that leaves is a person on the dole who won't claim anymore or a job freed up for someone else. Their goal is to get everyone to leave and use the country as an accounting loophole.
Hate to break it to you but lots of people left Ireland even when it was in the EU. The 80s was a particularly bad time for immigration.
I agree the only thing that's good for Ireland is foreign multinationals,.. I think we should we should stay in European Union but the Brussels bureaucrats are not doing anybody a favour especially with the influx of migrants from the Middle East and North Africa and I'm not a racist for bringing that up.
She says that she shouts for Ireland in cricket, but shouts for England in rugby. She says she tries to be "fair".
And then she calls the Irish "they".
I think we're done here.
She is not good at picking sides, she should cheer for us in the rugby and the English in the cricket. If her excuses include always picking the losing side its not a great sign.
Member countries of the European Union do not "give up" sovereignty; rather, they pool their sovereignty.
Rubbish. There is no “pooling” of sovereignty, it simply means legal equality.
They still regard Ireland as a breakaway part of the UK.
So much so they haven’t yet dropped the Flag of St Patrick from the UK flag . It’s not the flag of NI.
Its official flag is the flag of Ulster, with an added crown to say it’s just those counties loyal to the king.,
And it bothers them extremly, that the so called big EU members (Germany, France...) didn't left the Republic of Ireland try o get any solutions in direct negotiations with GB; but made perserving the 'Good Friday agreement' a central part of the Brexit negotiations!
The inablity to see that coming is, imho, a major part of the failings of Brexit!
@@exilhamburger4802 it wasn't just the EU. The US came out and strait up said that there would be no agreement between the UK and US if they didn't honour the Good Friday agreement.
@@johnrussell3961the “Ulster Banner” hasn’t been an official flag of Northern Ireland since 1972.
@@johnrussell3961 No, the territory of occupied northern Ireland doesn't have an official flag.
Greeting from my balcony in 🇩🇪. Smells very sovereign where I am.
Ich hab mal kurz die Nase aus dem Fenster gesteckt: Stimmt!
Hier in Dänemark auch.
I remember the day after the result, i said to an English born solicitor workung in Spain, what have ye done, opened up a can of worms i said.
Explain she said. The border I Said.
What has the Irish border got to do with Brexit.
EVERYTHING, I said.
Now if a British born solicitor did not understand Brexit, what chance had the ordinary working person of understanding Brexit?
The EU treats the irish like every single member state, as a member amongst equal, unlike the UK which treats its other smaller members as subjugated entities.
Sovereignty is for the english, and the english only.
Exactly. 🎯
One of Brexiteers greatest mistakes and failures was that they thought that EU would value UK above Ireland. They failed to understand that the key words in "used to be an important member", is "used to be" while Ireland is a member of EU making Ireland more important to EU.
Surely sovereignty includes a country making its own choices. Such as being a member of the EU if it so wishes.
The EU saved Ireland and made it what it is today. Ireland's a gleaming example of how much good the EU can do. We would be decades behind without them.
As one born in 1943, I have seen both sides of the coin of wealth and poverty.
@@xotan It's so difficult to imagine what it was actually like back then. From what the country is like today. A different world altogether
@@xotanI remember going to school with cardboard in my shoes in 1950s
In fairness to Ruth Dudley Edwards she doesn't want any form of border between ROI and NI or any form of border between the Island and Ireland and GB.
But then Ruth Dudley Edwards is a unionist who mourns Ireland's exit from the UK who would love to turn the clock back. Her loyalty is, to Britain and its King and, certainly not to Ireland.
What about the Island of Orkney, Shetland etc?
Scotland is not limited to GB.
Funny how brexiteers ignored NI peace to get sovereignty, and now demand the Republic gives up its sovereignty to keep the peace.
There are more questions to be asked d good Friday agreements and d border in Ireland these people here spouting shit as usual
Approval rating for the EU is over 80% in ROI..
she lives in a different reality
...GBN Britain's News Channel...crying with laughter at the chutzpah of that UNWATCHED channel...at least Murdoch has realised there's not much of an audience for Talktv's take on news and has taken it online..yet the offshore billionaire funding unwatched GBnews hasn't got the message yet....?
Sovereignty means independence, the right to choose. It is not in any way reduced by choosing to cooperate with a group of other sovereign states. Ireland was not sovereign when it was treated as a colony by Britain.
I think the most telling is how Scotland does not even have the right to vote on leaving without approval of London while UK could leave EU whenever they wanted to.
Ruth Dudley-Edwards is clearly a descendant of British colonisers/settlers who were sent to Ireland hundreds of years ago, and she’s speaking to another planter, Arlene Foster.
Bizarre interview. Bizarre conversation. Bizarre people.
Who cares if they are? I'm a descendent of colonisers too. Doesn't mean I think anything like these two women. Your political positions are your own individual choice, they're not coded into your genetics, and quite frankly you're displaying a very British attitude by trying to argue the contrary.
Blood and soil nationalism, dontcha love it?
Britain is not a country my dear, it’s a union of countries.
The people of Scotland are sovereign… 🏴
That may be part of the problem: England doesn't consider the EU to be partners, but rather a competing union.
Correct! 👍
Why the world agree Britain is a country?
@@YourXavierWe still have a transactional mind set, we think the EU should always be in our surplus, a zero-sum game where we 'win'!!! We still fail to understand that it is an alliance based on consensus and cooperation. Our exceptionalism and Islandism is going to be our downfall!
Yeah until you try to leave... then it becomes Hotel California. Just try holding a second referendum on independence then you will realise exactly how sovereign you are. Scotland left the EU against its will... where was sovereignty that day???
'Sovereign' is one of those very handy words that can be used to mean anything and be applied to anything in any context, and it's very rarely ever questioned for the reason that it's never been properly defined from the outset.
Another example of these kind of words is 'Woke'.
The appeal to sovereignty is an attempt to weaponize your voters in the debate, unfortunately from a realistic pov, it's the equivalent of giving soldiers wooden rifles and convince them it's better than what the enemy has, because they are stupid anyway.
Woke is the laziest argument, it's simply a trick to label somebody as being irrational, put them in a box and then pretend you control the situation. Sadly too many people try to react to Woke and try to refute that accusation. By acknowledging the word, you give it power. Whenever people throw the word at you, simply laugh and press on. Don't run back to pick it up and try to explain something to them. People need to use "The Woke Fallacy" as often as possible to defuse this meaningless piece of linguistic spaghetti.
And Snowflake. I was labelled as a Snowflake back in the 1960s, and I was very proud to get the label. Especially considering who said it, and why.
The original vague word like that is 'God', depending on who you ask or even if you ask the same person in different situations it can mean anything from a vague 'first cause' to some very specific sky-being who wants everyone on Earth to follow very specific rules written in a very specific book.
@@Demun1649 Snowflake is an insult which accuses you of weakness. Woke goes a step further, it's meant to sound both negative and derogatory as well as putting the irrational label on you. It's a game of controlling the discussion before anyone has even a chance to break out the real arguments.
@@rotwang2000 The ORIGINAL use of Snowflake has NOTHING to do with weakness. Why don't you just admit the ONLY meaning you know is the corruption by the MAGARATS in the Ultra Secure Asylum?
And you have absolutely NO IDEA why I am proud of the label.
How does a hard border in Ireland stop illegal immigrants? A hard border in Dover certainly hasn`t stopped the men in little rubber boats entering the UK. The only place a border makes sense is between Britain and Ireland.
Spot on. If we are talking about asylum seekers in particular, the border, or lack of it, has no relevance. We have a hard border at the airport, and what happens if someone arrives at the airport and claims asylum ? They have to be allowed enter. Exact same situation would apply even if there was a "hard" border with immigration checks. These people are talking absolute bollocks.
The Good Friday Agreement (GFA) is a binding treaty between the British and Irish governments that is lodged with the United Nations.
And the EU agreed to respect it . SF said the Tories won’t respect it. Adams asked the USA to force the UK to respect it if they had to.
One problem is that UK is one of the few nations that doesn't respect the treaty on treaties, despite it being written by a Britt.
@@znail4675 Yup. Maori have the same problems with Britain over the Treaty of Waitangi.
Only the King respects it, which is telling. Anyone besides the Royals that even mention it choke on the words.
"i have a fair bit of loyalty to ireland". 😂😂😂😂
That is a rib-breaking comment, you suffer great harm by laughing at the roadkill hedgehog brain.
She supports Ireland in cricket apparently, so it must be true
@@bertieschoice216 Both Irish cricket and rugby play as all island united teams.
Well done Max! Well done for having the strength to listen to and analyse this cosy business between these two.
Dudley Edwards, born in Dublin migrated to the uk and lived here ever since, she refers to herself as British - Irish. There are large parts of Ireland where that may cause a problem. Rather Ben Habib, born in Pakistan migrated to the U.K. now telling us how to think.
Ireland for Cricket and England for Rugby - always on the losing side it seems
Just saying hi from the sovereign country of Sweden 🇸🇪🇪🇺😁
That sovereignty is part paid for by Norwegians crossing the border to do their shopping! 😝
@@kevinsmarts9953 Like we go to Denmark and Germany for cheap booze 😁
I doubt this woman thought anything through in her life
as you say, 'fools talking to fools' ...& as ever, R.D.Edwards, oh dear g-d-help us, an utter charlatan.
She doesn't sound Irish she sounds like a tory.
Keep up the Great Work Max ❤
Brexiter understanding any facts would be a first surely? Why are we consistently surprised by this?
The implication here is that we did not need to have Brexit in order to 'regain sovereignty'. If Northern Ireland has surrendered sovereignty without being in the EU. Then sovereignty is not dependent on EU membership.
If sovereignty means deciding your own future , NI didn’t get any over Brexit nor the WA.
It was Boris who agreed to have a seperate Brexit for NI..
@@johnrussell3961Yup. NI voted to remain in the EU in the referendum and every party in NI voted against Boris's deal (though admittedly some did so for entirely different reasons).
Here we have two relics of the defunct British Empire who have the old colonial mindset.The English never got over the loss of French possessions after the 100 Years War and the loss of Calais.
Fun fact: it weren't the "English" per se but The House of Plantagenet, a royal house which originated in the French County of Anjou. They were French! The Plantagenets held the English throne from 1154 until 1485. The Plantagenets lost The Battle of Castillon (SW France) on 17 July 1453 then were kicked out of France.
So easy: sovereign tea is grown in Wales! Silly Arlene..
*Throws shoe* BOOO!
& thanks to brexit we can no longer have a market to sell our tea in, our best option now is independence, then we can make our own trade deals with whoever we want not what Westminster wants.
If, ever there is the Nearest Hint off Irish unity. I shall return to the Lands off my Ancestors.
Arlene Foster. 🇮🇪
Arlene Foster maiden name Kelly, her ancestors are Irish, is she confused? Lol
An Irish Times favourite. Dudley Edwards never had a clue.
There isn't a single country on this planet that has full sovereignty, not even isolationist countries like North Korea, the UK like most countries has been signed up to hundreds of international agreements, treaties, declarations, defenceagreements (NATO), trade deals etc, every one of them involves agreeing to abide by the the rules of each of them, all involves giving away some sovereignty, by leaving the EU to make new trafe deals we just give away some sovereignty to a different trade agreements, usually with the same countries we were trading with as part of the EU, the whole sovereignty nonsense is a fantasy, a myth, a delusion.
A new word for d brexiteers to scream 😂😂😂😂😂
Sovereignty is the basis on which the UN is based; it is the legal equality of States, just like you and I are legal equals. Not difficult to understand.
@@aleph8888 & like I said, no country on this planet has got full sovereignty & the idea that one of them could have without completely cutting itself of from the rest of the world is pure fantasy.
She's just an old fashioned Imperialist. I thought those people had died out long ago, but here we are. This is the same sort of reasoning of the Brexiteers who still think that the Victorian Empire still exists. Next thing will be the adding of the Indian subcontinent and the roll back of all independence movements in all the former colonies. She needs to be remanded into a mental institution or she'll be fighting Napoleon next.
😅😅
In fairness, I think she is the last of them.
Rolling back the american independence movement might prove tricky to say the least..
Sovereignty the ability to botch without intervention by competent people.
My god, this is so hard to watch these fools talk such utter nonsense.
The only time UK had a semblance of sovereignty was when it could send gunboats in to force other nations to cede their sovereignty and and buy our opium.
Sovereignty is not an absolute, one-way property of a nation state - it depends on other nations.
Sovereignty is simply legal equality. Juridical equality. Nothing to do with “nation states”, which the UK isn’t anyway, only sovereign states.
@@aleph8888 Sovereignty is defined as _supreme power_ over a body politic. As such sovereignty can exists only within a sovereign state, and cannot exist in interactions with other states.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with equality, just power.
Thank you for watching GB News so we don’t have to ❤
I can’t believe it but I’m agree with something Ruth Dudley Edwards said. We, the Irish, should’ve thought about it before we voted to kick the U.K. out of the EU. How silly of us…………
What on earth is she talking about? Isn't she a historian? Isn't It the English Who didn't think things through with Brexit?
She's a unionist historian, so she's biased and simplistic in her views.
@@taintabird23 Wasn't her father a historian as well?
@@berosmith9041 And a unionist.
Sovereign-tea and coffee
and rocky road cake.
Supports a cricket team? Any cricket team. Says all you need to know about her.
Say it together: West Brit.
Most Irish people are not daft.
Tufton Street TV is Gbeebies real name
These fascists want to restart The Troubles. No way!
Arlene Foster? How is she on air? Ireland pools its sovereignty with 26 other states by choice on many topics, while retaining sovereignty in areas such as national government, taxation, education and endless other areas that are listed for subsidiarity. Just like UK had, until 2020.
Let d fools believe what they want I'm definitely of d opinion gbis trying hard to do putins dirty work to break up d EU
She's given air time by GB Views. Enough said.
No other outlet would give her airtime…
@@orraman5427I always refer to as GBeebies. However I do feel guilty of maligning the integrity and intelligence displayed on Cbeebies. Oh and it's much higher intellectual content. However it is for preschoolers not no schoolers
Do any brexiters know anything about sovereignty, the good friday agreement, the single market, the customs union, the EU, global trade and the ECHR ? That would be a no ..
If sovereignty means no compromises with foreigners, we would have to become North Korea.
You could have finished your question after just five words! "Do any Brexshitters know anything?"
@@Jj-ff9vq And what about the 25,000 jobs I helped to create, and YOU destroyed those high-end, highly skilled jobs? Tell me about the benefits to Pryttynn about losing those jobs.
Why are remainers so full of sheer blind hatred?
EU will give you 5 sovereignty for 60 tons of fish.
"Sovereignty" - the ultimate ownership within a polity of the right to decide what is a right, something that once was the preserve of the nominated sovereign.
In a modern democracy the constitution should explicitly or implicitly hold the people, and only the people, as that element within a polity which is sovereign. In Britain, following their so-called "Glorious Revolution", parliament wrested sovereignty from the then sovereign whom they had just sacked (James II) and made it a condition of the job that recognition of this transfer of sovereignty should be made by the lad they offered it to (William of Orange) with their "Declaration of Rights". This was duly passed into law by William as the "Bill of Rights", a law that would be valid in perpetuity. Since then, only parliament in the UK is deemed the sovereign element, and indeed this is one of the very few constitutional principles actually written down within what passes for a constitution in that country to this day (ironically making the people subject to a crown which itself is a client of a sovereign parliament - ergo the people are vicariously subject to their own parliament!)
Sovereignty therefore is indivisible, it simply denotes the ownership of all rights within a polity and as such cannot be fractured. However the owner of any right (including the right to legislate) can of course delegate, assign, lend or bequeath that right in part or in whole to any other element within the polity (essential for domestic governance), or even to elements outside the polity (essential for the observing of international law). And, as the owner, that same element within the polity can therefore always take this loaned-out right back again if it is determined that the right was misused, abused or appropriated illegally by that other element, or even just if the owner has changed their mind and wants the polity to run along different principles going forward. In a democracy this is done by the people through a referendum, specifically rewriting the principle of extension of a right so that it reverts to whomsoever the people have decided should now be allowed to exercise it. In the UK however this is done at the whim of parliament and whatever gang within that institution happens to be the government of the day, who may or may not consult the people beforehand and who are not obliged to abide by whatever the people might say anyway.
So, when a British person (or a well known eejit such as Ms Dudley Edwards) next mentions "sovereignty" and, when challenged to explain what they mean by that word, mutters something to the effect that it is "the right to make laws for ourselves", you can correct them . "They", the people, have never "made laws" for themselves. Their self-appointed sovereign masters have. And when they say "under the EU we weren't sovereign" you can even agree with them, though be sure also to tell them that in fact they never were. Their parliament instead was, and still is, sovereign over them.
They live in a quasi-feudal state as a people without power or sovereignty in their own right. They live in a polity in which the ownership of both of these items, which would rightfully belong in a democracy to the people, took a baby-step towards them in 1688 but then never got any further than into the hands of a largely self-appointed, self-serving and self-perpetuating ruling elite who zealously hoard that ultimate right to rule over the people to this day.
Serfs, in other words. But worse - serfs who have been conned into thinking they live in a democracy and, saddest of all, are encouraged to be patriotically "proud" of this servility.
Excellent, well presented, and informative, so absolutely no chance of snarlean and ruthless dud Edwards ever understanding it.
These two Anglophiles seem to be antipathetic to the EU. We are in the EU and love it! What a joy it is to share our sovereignty with our European friends and neighbours! What a releif it is to be rid of our past colonial masters!
The EU will never let Ireland down! ❤ from Belgium, EU.
ExDUP leader Snarline interviewing arch Unionist Ms Edwards.
Like Fox n friends.
Apparently we the Irish failed to think things through before the UK left the EU.
Yes indeed, we failed to think things through so badly that we started planning for Brixit FOUR YEARS BEFORE Mr Cameron announced the date of that stupid referendum…
Ms Dudley-Edward’s grasp of reality questionable, at best.
There is a problem involving large numbers of asylum seekers coming to Ireland SOLELY because the British government is bound and determined to avoid any responsibility for meeting its obligations under international law.
We should give them all Irish passports, and return them to Britain. They could NOT be refused entry, NOR sent to Rwanda them
lol! Indeed!
the hate is seeping out of them 2 yokes
The Common Travel Area existed long before Ireland or Britain ever joined the EU.
It exists due to the occupation of the North and during the Troubles it didn't really exist as every time you went to the uk, you needed a passport and there were checks at the borders, even for the North of Ireland..
Max, its like listening to a conversation down the pub after few bevies !!
Shout for England at rugby? Not even the unionists in Wales would do that. 😂
Afternoon Max and all here.
A case of the blind leading the blind
Indeed when Arlene Foster was First Minister Enda Kenny proposed that all of the parties in Ireland north and south should set up a forum whereby Irish policy towards brexit could be co-ordinated ensuring that no side got thrown under the bus but Foster, with her customary plank-like inability to say anything other than 'no', ended the idea before it got off the ground. brexit in Ireland was about the DUP attempting to undo the gains that the Irish community in NI had been conceded in the GFA so she wasn't going to be part of any forum which might mitigate against this. These British fantasists imagined that Britain could dictate terms to twenty-seven other countries but it was most enjoyable to watch all of the crying as the reality dawned on them that the EU wasn't having the border on land and the British had to suck it up. They've been looking out for some little way to get at Ireland for having engineered this humiliation and perhaps they've found one. If this persists past the up-coming elections Ireland needs to start the push back by giving serious consideration to ending the Common Travel Area even if for no other reason than Dudley Edwards having to queue up to come over here.
Spot on
Very well said.
Two Irishwomen who hate Ireland having a conversation..... how wonderful
Arlene Foster isn’t Irish- she’s British🤪🤪🇮🇪🇦🇺
@@tomclarke5237 are you suggesting she is Australian with that flag ?
You're both wrong, she's ulster scots
@@BK-hp6fv nope. Foster's maiden name is Kelly.
Ancestor's must have 'taken the soup'. Irishwoman who hates the Irish is accurate
You are no country man, woman or anything else of mine!
She supports Ireland at cricket but England at rugby? Ireland regularly beat England at rugby so of course she couldnt support that.
The Irish cricket team is a bit more……..Anglo. The rugby team has too many people with “O” and “Mc” in their names for her liking.
It is more than a wee bit difficult to associate British Unionism with the likes of Tadgh Furlong and Bundi Aki!
@@gloin10 Not every unionist is a rampant bigot and many are happy to support anyone in green. Ruth is a particularly virulent strain.
Would not expect anything else from frosty forster but why wouldn't anyone just remind frosty that the six counties of Ireland voted to remain in the EU, as for Ireland not having a say well the people voted in the six counties of Ireland voted to remain in the EU but weren't listened too unlike Ireland who had a say in the EU.
While Irish troops were fighting hard in the first world war for Britain their families were left with no money or food and often had to go begging for food outside British barracks.
I remember outside the EU we had nothing unlike today not saying we've everything but my god we're a lot better off in the EU, frosty lloot armed themselves to stop Irish people having a say in their own country and people talk about sovereignty if only they understood the word 😅.
But my question to frosty Foster is tell about cash for Ash frosty forster because the real truth about cash for Ash still hasn't been told to public 🤔
The Irish, Scottish, and Welsh people know you don't leave the UK. You escape from it.
As a Scot it is a life long wish.
Did you know that Scotland asked to become part of the UK because Scotland was bankrupt and the had two choices, the UK or Spain.
Just think for a minute where Scotland would be if the had gone with Spain, you would of been bankrupted twice more, or Spain would of just cut ties with you.
@@b00ts4ndc4tsDepends on where in Scotland, Scottish Gaels I imagine were by and large more than happy to be independent from anyone
@@OscarOSullivan obviously didn't read my comment eh?
@@b00ts4ndc4tsRead it. It was nonsense.
I`m not sure what sovereignty means either but whatever your definition, I wish we could have it in Scotland!
It means: to blindly follow every stupid decision Westminister/the English make without asking.
You have it.
A Brexit benefit we cant regard high enough: These creatures are no longer EU citizens.
Unfortunately they both have the right to hold Irish/EU citizenship via an Irish passport, wouldn't it be great if the Irish government offered them the chance to publicly decline that right permanently?
Ironically, the UK had the sovereignty to leave the EU, but it doesn't have the sovereignty to rejoin it. That's on others to decide.
"I will shout for Ireland at cricket" - which it barely plays, "but shout for England in rugby" which Ireland is more likely to win.
So basically she's pretending to care about Ireland but always wants England be seen as better.
Ireland doesn't need that kind of 'love'.
For people like her, the 'risk' of Ireland becoming more successful than England because of the EU is terrifying them.
I guess it must sting Brexiteers very much that Ireland has a better economy than the UK... and Brexit increased that gap..
Not really. Have you seen the cost of living there?
@@paullarneLike in Norway, Switzerland, etc, the high costs depend on high salaries...
Ounshoukd note Mrs Fosters dress is red, white and blue, as close to wearing the Union flag as she can get without actually wearing it. Sad people with a suppressed guilt syndrome.
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"Their hate was stronger" A masterly summation.
"They..." enough said!
As i watch this I cant believe people like this are allowed to go on tv and make a fool of themself.
The people who supported Brexit had no idea how relationship with Ireland or the UK worked. Brexiteers never wanted to hear anything other Brexit has happened. The sky was going to bluer and the world going
be better.
My grand mother was under the age of 16 when she left Ireland to come to the UK on a boat with her sister to work in service. Ireland is a beautiful country but it can be hard to make a living there. Brexit helped the Irish people. Like most systems it had its issues I am sure. I would suggest this woman goes to a library and reads some books on Irish history and move on to Irelands relationship with Europe. Then get a dictionary and find out sovrereighnty means. Then go bavk to the books and learn how it works.
It's not TV it's a propaganda channel.
These kind of programs are just a modern interpretation of a long standing British tv tradition, like the Muppet show, Fawlty Towers, Yes Minister and so on. Shown is a fragment of Miss Piggy doing an interview
@@renebosselaar2198 Indeed, but that's enough about -Arlene- sorry- "Baroness" Forster.
There are no words for the rubbish those two Eejitd are rambling on about.
"Look. We British got our sovren tea back. We can't let anyone else have our sovren tea!"
Ruth Dudley Edwards!!! Who she?
Writer for right wing English papers. Wikipedia says she hasn't lived in Ireland since 1965. So God knows where that opinion was pulled out of
@@Tereyoc Same place as all of her opinions, her rear end !
Don't know if it's true or not but Wikipedia this woman hasn't live in Ireland since 1965 ?? She pulled her opinion out her arse
Herself and her husband may have moved there around that time.
Just two ladies, having a chat about things they have no idea about whatsoever.... a great example of Dunning Kruger in full swing!!!
I'll shout for Ireland at cricket........WE PLAY CRICKET????
A real journalist would have asked "Since Brexit, how many Northern Irelanders took up Irish citizenship?"
Some has been
Is there any statistic about how many Brits took citizenship in an European country?
"2019 was the clear peak year in which over 30,000 British citizens acquired another European citizenship.
101,517 British citizens acquired a passport of another European country between 2016 and 2021."
Could this be true?
@@darksteelpit21 0.15% of the population? Possibly but insignificant.
@@paullarne maybe these people could call their relatives and describe...
on the other hand...
Maybe it's not a bad thing that the letterbox companies and tax havens are no longer in the EU? As a German fingerpointing is not appropriate.
Lets forget about thge single maket for 5 Minutes, because there is much more: Without my British Cousins I am missing the salt in my soup, the "Mannschaft" is not complete. The British voice counted a lot in Europe, why did you start to send Boris Johnson an people like him to Brussels?
All the Crowing from Northern Ireland unionists re trade with the EU. How many Importers and Exporters prefer the landbridge UK to Europe
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I want to add, if the members of the European Union are not soverign, how was Britain able to leave as they wished? An unsovereign country cannot do that. Which is ironic, coming from a UK-fan. Britain multiple times said they will not accept any Scotish votes to leave the UK. THAT is not being sovereign.
You're entirely correct but these two women can not think outside their prejudice to see the obvious
Sovereignty to these people means the freedom to act irresponsibly
Shout for Ireland at cricket but for England at rugby lol. Even Arlene foster would shout for Ireland at rugby.
Uk is not united anymore
Ms Dudley is what you call a west Brit .
The headline could be shorter.
"Brexiteers don't understand."
Says it all.
Never get tired of hearing the right wingers say the word sovereignty.
Arlene was First Minister of NI. Proof you don’t need to have any understanding of political reality to rise to the top in NI. Totally unsuitable for any high office.
And she done soo much for northern Ireland 😂 cash for Ash 😂😂
“Totally unsuitable for high office”?
The same could be said about every Unionist politician since at least 1972.
Northern Ireland has long suffered from half-arsed politicians who had power without responsibility, secure in the knowledge that Westminster would bail them out.
@@gloin10 can’t disagree.
True - Absolutely awful woman and when I read up on this totally toxic "friendship" it really became clear what this interview by Baroness Arlene was all about. Duggie must have been on holiday, Arlene's usual sidekick on GB News (or maybe he's been dropped as GBNews have to save money.)
Let me tell you something about Arlene's hypocrisy - she would never work on a Sunday as a dedicated Presbytarian/Christian during the negotiations and after the RHI scandal closed down Stormont.
he only ever works on a Sunday at GB News.
Sounds to me like she wants Ireland to throw its lot in with Britain 👍 what a Muppet 🤦 6:14
We are very interested to know Ruth DE, that you would shout for Ireland at a cricket match!!Good lassie!!
A Foster, yes you were first minister of the unit called 6 counties, and didn't exactly surround yourself in glory/truth/honour on your exit, or when you got the heave-ho!!how much did the cash-for-ash debacle cost???
Mar a deirtear 'Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile ', yourself and Ms Ruth are well-matched, where else only gb news!!!
Arlene Forster is the least convincing cross dresser going.
I beg to differ strongly, I still think Robbie Coltrane nails that role.
You can’t handle other people’s opinions, Ireland is part of Europe.