3 Tips To AVOID Engine DAMAGE During Winter Storage
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Should you start your car occasionally during winter storage? Should you change your oil after winter storage? Does gasoline go bad during winter storage? We will answer these questions (and more) in this video that provides 3 tips that prevent engine damage during winter storage.
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YES on oil life indicators
Absolutely. Even though I ignore mine and change based on miles. Oil analysis verifies my change interval is appropriate.
Yes. Indicator video, please!
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Yes on oil life indicator
If I used that, I'd be changing oil and filter once a month.
Yes please on how oil life indicators work. Really interested as I'm having endless discussions with my father regarding his Civic 10th gen!
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I see that debate on forums all the time " Change your oil no longer then 6000" " No I trust my computer to tell me to change it"
@@themotoroilgeek I'd like to see an in depth breakdown of Shell Rotella T6 5W40. I'm really curious as to if it's a GTL oil like a lot of high end Shell products. I run it in my motorcycle, as it's rated JASO MA for wet clutches
Yes please to an oil life indicator video.
I've tried to convince my dad a 10,000 mile oil change interval on his Ecoboost F-150 is bad, so a third party explainer would be much appreciated.
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Tell your dad that it seems like he doesn’t care about his truck. Use psychology. Sometimes it’s the only way to convince people
@@2seep No, he's going to say, "I do care. That's why I follow the recommendations meticulously." It's probably better in his case to just make sure he uses products engineered for the highest mileage interval. Oil and filter. My oil change interval is the minimum. I use the cheapest and it works out fine.
I mean you could start by saying first of all that's under perfect conditions in reality probably the majority of people drive the severe service schedule The second knock would be he has an engine that is hard on motor oil turbos are hard on oil they get hot obviously somebody could put it more eloquently than that but those two things ought to be able to at least make him think about it if it doesn't then he's really not interested in the facts and just wants to argue
@@themotoroilgeek What about out oil change on a diesel? And yes on oil life indicators. The one on my wife's infinity is set at 6500 it was set at 10,000. Can't change the one on my truck, other than resetting it.
My 2001 Chevy Impala has twenty thousand miles on it. Before I left for a two year trip in Europe I filled the gas tank up added a fuel preservative then changed the oil with Castrol edge professional 10w30 synthetic oil then took each spark plugs out and sprayed a fogging oil in each cylinder then kept a automatic trickle charger to the battery . Then I jacked up the car to keep pressure on tires to a minimum. When I returned home the car started as if has been always driven. Great Video!
Great. You got to see Europe while it was still there.
The old detroit diesel 2 stroke service manuals have tons of great tips on how to pickle an engine.
One that stood out to me was placing wax paper between the v belts and backing tension off.
They definitely had good stuff in there especially if it was going to be stored for years.
Thanks for sharing!
Yes, how do the oil change indicators actually work .
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Excellent content, while watching the beginning I thought, what about the fuel tank and boom you guys addressed it. Count me in among those who want to learn how an oil monitoring/maintenance minder system works 👍🏽
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I often see friends and neighbors storing their car the wrong way for winter. Especially bad is when they start the engine every 2 or 3 weeks, letting it idle for 10 minutes with the garage door open, and then shutting it down. All the unburned fuel gets into the oil and dilutes it. Thanks for the video, Lake!
I would like to see how oil life indicator work
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Simple. Pull the dipstick, look, inspect, smell. You can tell a LOT with your nose and eyes.
@@themotoroilgeekYES SIR ! WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KNOW, HOW THESE CARS/PICK-UPS , IFOMESSAGE OIL PERCENTAGE , ARE THEY RELIABLE. ? OR NOT ! THANKS AGAIN !!!
Definite YES on oil life indicators!
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It’s great to hear these tips from the two of you - I’m happy to hear that I’ve been doing it correctly. Thanks!
I eat this information up. you could never make too many videos, they are all amazing.
Absolutely yes on oil indicators !
Agree on all points. While oils have acid neutralizers as part of the add pack, there is no sense in not having fresh oil in there for the winter nap.
Fill the tank as full as possible. I use Techron Marine for an add. Supposedly good for 2 years at that point, but certainly good enough for a 4 or 5 month winter layover. Also, a battery smart charger, to keep the battery happy, and all other maintainence done. Wash, wax, park, leave it be until that first good day for a trip to the local joint for a burger and a root beer.
If the oil geek says it, you can rest assured it's good advice.
Great call on the Techron Marine!
For winter storage, you also want to wash and wax or coat your car. Then drive it to get more water and soap from the wash evaporated. Don't cover it unless you create a lot of dust in your garage. Overinflate your tires somewhat to reduce flat spotting and put a good battery maintainer on your battery. If it gets extremely cold in your garage, remove the battery and store it at a reasonable temperature. Replace the engine and cabin air filters while you're at it, and clean the interior glass. You will be ready to go in the spring with minimal effort.
Good post, but I disagree about the battery. Lead acid batteries store much better in cold. In fact even better below freezing(!) due to much lower self discharge. However, it's super important that there is no vampire drains. A digital clock or alarm in a car is enough to drain it in a few months. But if you disconnect the battery, make sure it's clean, charge it full and leave it somewhere cold, like in fridge temp, you can leave it alone for almost 2 full years and maintain over 75-80% SOC. In 25C the same battery can sit for only 6-9 months without needing charge.
Why not just use blanket to protect the car against the dust?
Gasoline is hydroscopic because ethanol Absorbs moisture from the Air; When the water saturation threshold is met
"Phase Separation" occurs causing the water to sink to the bottom of the tank where it causes corrosion in gas tanks and carburetors. Products like (Sta-Bil) and (K100 Fuel Treatment) help prevent phase separation and in some cases reverses the affect (Fuel Emulsification) enough for the "Bad Gas" to be burned in the engine.
It is good practice to use Sta-Bil in any fuel system that's going to sit for three months or more.
Thanks again for helping us understand debatable topics better. Please keep the facts coming Lake!
Thank you!
Yes do those ridiculous engine oil sensors. This was the most important video👍
A big yes for oil life indicator
Great stuff as always Lake!
I’ve been telling people for years, about leaving your fuel tank completely full, or completely drained.
Yes definitely interested about the Oil Life Indicators. 👍
Great Channel! Yes on Oil Life Indicator. Also during storage don't forget Battery Tender!
Good info. This is exactly what boat owners go through for winter storage. Same rules apply.
This is great advice for RV owners who store their rigs over the winter. This contradicts a lot of conventional wisdom in the RV community (especially for RV generators, many of which still have carburetors). Thanks!
Love your content! So many myths about oil, it's refreshing to get answers with actual data and science behind it.
Thanks!
Great video! And these maintenance tips are exactly right! Thanks for this!
Always fantastic information Lake.
Yes please on the indicators function.
Thanks for covering the when to change the oil question! I do Stire my Camry over the winter and put new synthetic oil (usually pennzoil platinum). I don’t change the oil when I put it on the road in the summer.
I only start it now about once or twice per winter when it’s warm out and I drive it out of the garage and a very short distance, and I let it idle quite a while until it’s fully warmed up. I do like to get my tires sitting on a different spot and to use the brakes a bit.
I do fill the tank and use stor n go. I also run the AC.
Awesome vid. Keep it up! Such important content.
Thanks!
This is a AWESOME channel, great info, Job well done! I appreciate you !!!! Thank you for All your videos and look forward to future Info/videos!!!!
Great work sir. You deserve every view that you get. Wanted to know the effect of fuel injector cleaners on D.I engines and how often they should occur and whether they should be done before or after a oil change. Also, how about a break down on the type of oil filters (material, filtration ratings, pleat numbers etc). Keep up the great work.
Absolutely yes. All of your videos are great
Yes definitely explain how the oil life system works.
Keep them coming Mr Lake!!!!
Thanks!
Yes please on the Oil Life monitor systems! Thanks
Ive watched all your videos your a sharp man on oil. I agree with all your content Ive seen. I want a video on Mobile one 0w30. Because its one of the few oils that I can purchase that meets all the specs on my 24 Hyundai Santa Cruz turbo. I will be letting your company do a oil analysis at 4000 miles. Thanks for all the info you do.
This all makes sense and I have been practicing it, not just on vehicles, but all my small engine equipment as well. Fresh oil, fresh gas, full tank with gas treatment.
Informative video. This is much needed advise for my cold stored vehicles. Thanks!👍
Glad it was helpful!
Yes on oil life indicators!!
Yes i used to start my vehicles and motorcycles while in storage years ago with the exception i did it once a month and would leave them run till they got up to operating temperature and run them at two thousand rpm for a bit i did this basically for the fuel system to avoid stale fuel settling i never used any type of fuel stabilizer either never had a problem but hey everybody's different. Great video
Yes on the oil life indicators
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Yes please! Thank you for all the information!
You got it!
I know you’ve brought all of this up before, but I always enjoy your videos. Take care.
More great tips. Thanks
I would love to see a video on a clock that lets you know when to change your oil.
Yes, interested in how the oil life indicators work on Hondas. Thank you for your videos. I am learning a lot about oil.
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@@themotoroilgeektwo-cycle engine's do not apply
Thanks for the info.
I knew all that back in 1975 when I stored my vehicles, long before you guys got together. In about 50 years of vehicle ownership I have never done a UOA and have never had an oil related failure with one engine even producing 190 HP per liter.
I'd like the oil life indicator coverage, having a hard time believing it. Great suggestions on storage, it's what I've been doing for a long time in WI. 1 classic car and 2 Harleys
Please make a video on oil life monitors please!!!
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Also a yes on the oil life monitor
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Absolutely I want to know how oil life monitors work!! There's big discussions about this on my vehicle's forums.
I'm also interested in knowing if the motor oil (and all driveline fluids) that are put into a vehicle on the assembly line or during assembly, are the same as the manufacture's branded oil we buy off the shelf.
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My 2005 6.0l Powerstroke has been parked for 11 months without being started. It has Amsoil in it, not that it matters at this point. I do need to resurrect it and do an easy drive to get it warmed up and get the oil dumped, I do have a test kit for a competitor because I didn't know about you Mr.Lake Speed jr. But I do now and will use you in the future. And I live in Az. In an area that actually gets 4 seasons. I'm a religious user of fuel additive and preach it to my son to use in his 6.7 Cummins.
YES on oil life indicators.
Yes yes do a video on oil change indicator
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One of most important pieces of information I learned recently is that most modern Fords (and possibly other brands) have a "flood mode" that will allow the engine to crank without starting, great for reducing engine wear after long-term storage and after an oil change.
All fuel injected engines I've tested have flood mode, it's standard as far as I know.
Just pull the fuel pump fuse/relay and crank the engine over for like 5 seconds.
@@rolandotillit2867 Some people use flood mode daily on their fords due to excessive rod bearing knock.
The Corvette has flood mode which prevents the car from firing
@@richarddobreny6664 Are you sure it stops spark? Usually fuel injectors are not fired (thus the term "flood mode").
I did this from instinct, but im glad i didnt made a mistake....
Great video, as always !
Thanks!
@@themotoroilgeek Quick question : castrol or mobil 1?
Yes. Pls do vid on oil life indicators.
Yes, on the oil change computing
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Well done again guy’s.
Thanks!
definitely curious about the actual workings & data determining of the oil life readings.... I've heard that some simply measure the difference between oil restriction before the filter & after & calculates restriction (older chevys)..... others claim vehicles like the Ram use a more sophisticated set of readings that actually change oil life as driving conditions, speed, load, temperatures change, stop n go vs highway miles.... I myself DO notice it change depending on my weekly travels... if I'm loaded heavy most of the week doing around town it'll change faster than if i put 600 miles of highway loaded just as heavy.
Yes please on the Oil life indicator vid my man!
Great video!
Thanks!
Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Good video. Also best to have a trickle charger, to keep the battery charged.
Yes...oil life indicators, thanks
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Yes on oil life indicator. That would be useful knowledge.
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It's a great video and yes on the oil life monitor video.
Got it!
Thanks - great content (as usual).
I’ve always hated short runs on my car, and avoided them whenever humanly possible.
And Yes would like to know how the oil indicator works- mine in my diesel SUV seems to increase VERY slowly- probably because it’s mostly long runs with lots of towing.
(We have an EV for all our daily driving and shorter trips- perfect!)
Cheers
YES on the oil life % light!
Yes on Oil Life indicators.
Also interested in oil life indicators, keep up the good job!
Thanks! Will do!
Definitely
Only think I haven't been doing was changing my oil before parking it, guess Ill start doing that now.
I also plug the exhaust and the air intake holes so no more oxigen goes in. Full tank with additives circulated, new oil circulated too, I raise it on stands to protect the tires. Then follow the pre spring start checklist. I have a convertible BMW 2001.
Yes definitely on an examination of the oil life minders. I have noted in my GM direct injection engine it will range anywhere from 9,000 mile down to just 3,000 mile in the winter and am curious just what parameters it is looking at to make these “guesses. Thank you for your great content.
Thanks for sharing! That’s going to be part of it.
I winterize boats for storage in the Northeast. In ideal circumstances I flush by running with fresh water until the engine is WARM and pull the drain plugs while flushing. Then change oil and filters and run on fresh water to circulate and warm the oil. Drain and fill with non toxic antifreeze and fog the
Carburetor or air intake while adding the last of the antifreeze. Also try to get some fogging oil inside the carburetor vents while fogging. I look for plenty of fogging smoke out the exhaust. Once had somebody call the fire department when smoke poured out of the small storage garage. Got out
just before the FD arrived! I add fuel treatment at the beginning but don't have much control over fuel tank volume. Gasoline does not deteriorate
noticeably over a few months winter storage. Summer heat ages gas.
Worst case scenario is leaving gasoline in a snow blower through spring, summer, fall and expect it to start at first snow. In spring start up
I gingerly crank the engine a few revolutions to check for hydrostatic
lock. Haven't had to deal with a stuck open valve in decades. They usually start up and run like I shut them off
yesterday. Burn off the fogging oil on the run from launching to docking.
Always looking for the perfect fogging oil, I've had good results with
CRC Engine Stor fogging oil. GOT A PERFECT FOGGING OIL?
Yes, would love to see a video on oil indicators
Yes on the oil life monitor. My 2021 Honda Accord has a variable monitor. 3,000 miles of city driving was at 50% oil life while 3,000 miles of all highway was 70% oil life.
Yes please on oil life indicators 😊
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YES! 👍 on oil life indicators!! 😁
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Yes please on oil life indicators!! :)
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Yes please, I would like to know about oil life indicators.
Awesome info and yes on oil live
You got it!
Thank You boys, that was all wise advice 👍 Au
Yes on oil life indicator
Yes please on how oil life indicators work.
we had a car for our kids to use and they just drove to work couple minute drive few days a week and i looked and the oil cap had white foam from moisture buildup in the oil from all the short trips and never getting warmed up, so we changed oil and made sure to drive it further once in a while never saw problem again.
Yes to oil life monitors! Ive worked for Domestic and Import brands that either DO or DON'T have them and the algorithms that control life fascinate me.
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i work in oil/gas industry and my understanding is that most of the wear on the bearings is during start up because the oil pump isn't running and you don't have an oil wedge between the crank and the bearings
most of the machines i work on (ariel, IR, cooper recip compressors) have hot starts, that pre-heat the oil before startup similar to how some diesel vehicles have a plug for 110v to keep the oil warm during the winter, but also will have an auxiliary oil pump to pre-lube the crank, cross heads
why don't vehicles have a pre-lube option to get some oil pressure and where it needs to be before the engine actually starts
My Grandfather died in 1994...his 84 Delta 88 5.7 diesel sat for 23 years in his garage with out being started.We put 2 batteries in it and it fired right up, but the belts busted.. I still drive it some to this day...some vehicles definitely can be stored much better than others...
yes on oil life indicator.........my question is starting a engine after sitting for six months to a year. What is your advice?
Thanks....i really like your videos......very educational
Yes on oil life indicators
I had to replace oil pump (blowoff valve) in e46 m3 after 3 years of storge starting every other month. I was advised to start periodically to keep seals from drying out, however moisture in oil corroded blowoff valve. If your start it, drive it to operating temp.
The oil life indicator on my 2022 Honda Civic works on a calendar date. It doesn’t go by viscosity or pressure like I first believed.
The whole time I keep hearing stuff but keep eye balling what appears to be a VW SYNCHRO in the background???? Freaking SWEET!! oh yeah back to the oil stuff haha
Yes. On oil life indicators
Yes, please do a video on oil life indicators, particularly in later model Honda's, if you don't mind.
Yes please on oil sensors!!!
Always remember, "where air goes, water goes". Powersports like ATV, motorcycles and Jet Skis usually have a petcock to shut off fuel. Most owners, run the carbs dry and that is a no no. You want to keep the air and moisture out of the carbs and keep the seats and o-rings wet. Your advice to fill the tank is correct, but you do need to leave a small air gap for expansion especially if you use a heated storage area. The fuel will expand and push gas through the carbs into the engine. Turn the petcock to off if you have one. Don't forget to run the engine after fuel treatment. Many people forget to do this leaving the fuel and components in the system after the tank remain unprotected.
You did not mention fogging oils. I like to fog 2 stroke engines through the induction system to coat the crank and lower bearings in addition to the cylinder walls. On 4 strokes, I spray fogging oil through the spark plug holes and spin the motor to distribute. You are correct, never start a motor in storage, but I do recommend spinning the motor over to keep the cylinder walls and rings coated.
Great video, keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Yes I would like a video on oil life monitors!
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In the small aircraft community it is common to use CamGaurd oil additive for planes that are stored. I believe it is a foaming agent to keep an oil film on the valve train and prevent corrosion. Would be interested to hear your take on this as they have automotive application as well.