I agree with much of your sentiment. Just wanted to push back a little and say that the longer the half life of radioactive material, the less dangerous it is.
@@user-op9pu3pu6xdo you mean that slow decay material has less dangerous forms or amounts of radiation? meaning that waste from nuclear plants is safe for the biosphere if it reaches out if containment?
it's so complex to track these effects... things our cellphones do or UA-cam does (like transcripts and auto CC) are using AI models and we really don't get made aware of pollution impacts of that.
This would be something id be in favor of if it wasnt being driven by AI, crypto, and these tech companies specifically. I dont trust Google to work with the best, safest companies tbh.
Leona Morgan's comments about the realities for Native communities is excellent. We still have 600 superfund sites of toxic and hazardous chemicals from WWII in the Northern Hemisphere. Dialog and sharing are so vital going forward.
Saying nuclear doesn't count as carbon-free energy because its supply chain is not carbon-free seems ... intentionally obtuse. Thats why its called a "transition." The first solar panel was not built using solar power. The first oil was not drilled using oil. The first steam engine was not made possible by steam power. The first coal was not mined using coal. The first tools were built without tools. The first fire was built without fire. ... what's your point?
Yes, in general, I observe very few in the activism space speaking realistically when it comes to energy technology. The raw materials for the first solar panel were mined using fossil fuels, and they will be for the foreseeable future. Same goes for batteries. The mining alone, e.g., for copper, requires sifting through tons of rock just to get a relatively small amount of the desired material. It is energy intensive and wasteful. Production of renewable devices also affects the environment in places such as China, South America, and Africa. To compare the different energy sources in a fair manner w.r.t. environmental impact is a major technical challenge. I get the impression that nuclear is in this regard a net improvement over renewables. But I'm not certain. What I am certain of is that I can safely disregard most of what is being claimed regarding energy production.
Nuclear engineer here. This is a terrible idea and will not end well.
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SMRs don't scale down well, can't just be situated anywhere especially not in risky places like the flood plains of Houston where they let people build homes, would need constant security and competent monitoring and maintenance, the NRC has to approve them, they have to buy sufficient insurance which is a deal-breaker in its own right, they need massive capital investment, they take years to build, finding and training enough plant staff will also be very challenging (and doesn't scale well with SMRs), and people won't want them in their communities with near rabid-level objection. The cryptobros just what the shiny pretty unobtanium tech like flying cars to privatize the profits and socialize the externalities like costs and risks. I suggest a book _50 Years in Nuclear Power: A Retrospective_ by S. Levy formerly of GE. Our computer names were all named after The Simpsons' characters. 😅
I get that more small plants may be harder to keep safe than fewer large ones? maybe? but is there any flexibility here to make nuclear fission a viable option that is both safe and that takes into account the pollution impacts of mining and waste? Fusion's not a thing, all renewables have their own costs to the planet....
My City invested in Palo Verde in AZ while it was being built. They are running out of water from Colorado River. WTF are they going to use when they have to cool down the bars after they've been spent?
You want to study the effects of Uranium/depleted Uranium look at the US Military troops that served in the Iraq war and the civilians in Iraq who were all exposed to depleted Uranium by the US Military.
I found out the other day, at an event with Mike Prysner and Abby Martin about their upcoming film, that just conventional weaponry is highly toxic and as led to the majority of deleterious health effects in some areas.
I worked at the Millstone Reactor at Niantic CT Built by Halibuton Brown and Root , Dick Cheney's Corp . Glowed green at Night . I wore a Dosimeter Badge , down the Road developed 4 forms of Cancer . Wouldn't recommend that you work at a Nuclear Plant site .
Why do you have someone on claiming that nuclear is not carbon free? This is such a bad faith argument. All power sources take energy to build and setup so the same thing could be said of wind/solar. Nuclear plants have a higher energy density than wind and solar farms. Idk why this person is arguing about land use when this is the case. You need to have people on who have not been biased against nuclear for decades already.
The level of greed is astonishing today… no cure for that. .Dorothy Parker wrote a poem entitled The Flaw in Paganism , “Drink and dance, laugh and lie, love the reeling midnight through for tomorrow we shall die, (but alas we never do.”) seems fitting.
Yeah, that's also my take on it. Anti-nuclear activists are often incredibly misguided on the actual dangers of nuclear plants. Imo they're a great backbone for an energy grid that also relies on wind/solar/hydro. Having them power AI and crypto is a shame though.
This doesn’t even address the issue of nuclear waste which is substantial to say the least! We don’t want to solve one problem just to create a new one! Besides, as was pointed out, the enrichment process needed to make uranium usable requires energy to operate the centrifuge which has to come from somewhere; usually a fossil fuel burning generation plant. It’s an absurd path to choose when the earth itself is brimming with geothermal energy!
Lol! Tell that to the global warming alarmists who use private jets to fly around the world eating the finest foods as they tell us we need to own nothing and eat bugs
Putting cryptocurrency (specifically currencies that require lots of compute) tech alongside training and use of Large language Models use for AI is a very misleading coupling of two totally different uses of energy. LLMs are use for things like translation and learning which helps enhance understanding and communication among people including those who are misinformed or uniformed about energy challenges of the world. Cryptocurrencies that require tons of compute in the other hand are in no way essential or necessary for anything that advances humanity.
As crazy as it sounds, they may have the ability to transform the energy sector away from fossil fuels with this move. Nuclear is indeed greener than solar when mining, manufacturing and maintenance costs are included. Nuclear power also spreads less radioactive waste into the environment, that honor goes to coal with natural gas from fracking coming in second. Because the radioactive isotopes are what are desired, mining for fuel for nuclear power in fact removes radioactive material from the environment that was naturally there.
Nuclear is greener than any fossil fuel and is more reliable. Let's keep the nuclear industry on its toes with ever-increasing safety, but not get distracted by a misguided total distrust of it. It's worth noting even some of Chernobyl was still running in the year 2000.
Totally, Matt. And Chernobyl area is mostly clean of radiation etc. Fear porn is what is used against the SAFEST energy (nuclear) ever devised by men. Lowest number of casualties in entire energy sector. Coal killed millions, oil/gas killed hundreds of thousands, hydro took huge swaths of land away. These are abundant and okay, mind you, but those are the costs. Green energy IS NOT green.
Chernobol was a graphite moderated, water cooled, RBMK reactor. The design of Soviet reactors like that were flawed from the start, but the socialist system didn't allow for dissent. Further, the people running the reactor failed to follow their own protocols, related to socialism. The same kind of socialist system most of these people want implemented. Modern reactors are extremely safe.
@Curt-Gevert Quite right, Curt. I retired from power engineering 10 years ago but am well read on the topic. Generation III and generation IV reactors are superbly safe, and have very little dangerous waste. Frederik Pohl's 1987 novel "Chernobyl" has a lot of actual info in it. People should read up on this.
building nuclear power plant is not green and you have to build lots of them, it is said that doubling the nuclear power plant we have right now will only contribute to 4% in less gaz emission. we need to slow down and start to produce better and lasting product. but no one are saying that. remember the gaz emission effect on climate of today is from 30 years ago emissions. So we are in deep deep trouble since no one has slow down yet.
What are you talking about? Nuclear energy is already 18% of power generation, doubling would be 36%. And it's not green, but it's easily the greenest thing we have that can actually power our world
@@aronm5329 According to scenarios from the World Nuclear Association and the OECD Nuclear Energy Agency (both nuclear lobby organisations), doubling the capacity of nuclear power worldwide in 2050 would only decrease greenhouse gas emissions by around 4%. But in order to do that, the world would need to bring 37 new large nuclear reactors to the grid every year from now, year on year, until 2050.
@@jeanyvestheriault8362 OMG that's in 2050 and worldwide energy is expected to go up by as much as 101% by then. To double our overall energy and still decrease co2 emissions by 4% is freakin' phenomenal! You kind of just proved my point. If we 4x our solar and wind, and supplement the remainder with coal, we would increase co2 emissions by over 80% of current levels. What would be your solution?
Deregulation is definitely a worry, but current safety standards are good. Sure, nuclear energy has carbon emissions in its supply chains, but so does solar & wind. The regulations on the nuclear energy industry mean that it's actually far less wasteful than what solar and wind will be (when their life cycle ends). No doubt there's issues relating to indigenous people and child/forced labour, but that's a general issue of global capitalism & mining companies. Metals needed for solar & wind have some really awful supply chains, such as the DRC. The largest ranium source Kazak, which I struggle to find much info on, so its likely injustices happening. But no doubt Canada and Australia (sure there are awful indigenous issues with land use in oz) will have far better mining/labour practices than the countries cobalt/nickel is sourced from. One more thing that wasn't mentioned is that we need baseload power! If tech companies don't have nuclear to supply their demand 24/7, they won't be using renewable & battery tech. It'll be mostly gas, as is the case now!
I don't understand the push for Nuclear Power Plants when we are full aware of its dangers . This is unacceptable & I am very surprise these at E Commerce & Big TEC investing in this .
The plutonium refinery at Los Alamos uses a coal fire power plant that produces enough energy to power Manhattan in order to create fuel rods. Between that, the mining, and the half million years of energy to care for the storage of the waste, makes it also the worst energy source there is in relation to climate.
It's not just LLMs and other machine learning systems, it's the massive digital storage we all need for our pictures, videos, etc! Then there's Google indexing all the scientific literature, magazines, books, newspapers, etc etc. Finally all those cryptocurrencies, yikes.... Oh yeah, all that data Google, Apple and Microsoft collect, on all those phones out there....every time I pick up this Motorola Android device sixteen accelerometers tell Google where I am, what I'm doing with the phone physically, as well as every web site I read, every video I watch, every picture & video I upload....I mean, man, it must add up! Back in the late 60s I had a prescient high school teacher that, along with biology, physiology and other life sciences sciences talked about something called "the greenhouse effect" - he made it clear that it was in our future. One of the thought experiments he ran us through was the question , "even after we clean up the pollution, invent a environmentally safe power source and make all our transportation electric, what's the single pollutant we can never eliminate? The answer, of course, was heat.....
HYDROGEN ECONOMY, GEOTHERMAL ENERGY & OCEAN THERMAL ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION is the only alternative today to fight economic crisis & energy crisis.
There is a lot of energy waste in the U.S.. Same thing with water. We take too much for granted and forget how much effort, money, and other things were required to make these things. You have to be intelligent to create articial intelligence. Mankind has not displayed this ability yet.
But isn't nuclear now safer with all of our new technology it's nothing like the old just asking? As according to research it can now be recycled today almost 90% of it is recycled
It’s *not* carbon neutral. It takes carbon to build, maintain, employees commutes etc. People thought AI could be our saviour but it’s just making our predicament much worse.
The activists worried about mining and cleanup for nuclear are honestly heroes. As much as the power plant is great (imho), the externalities need to be addressed as with any industry. I hope people who agree also worry about how much (more) radiation is released from the coal industry (as a specific concern, not just the blanket term "pollution").
This rhetoric should be translated into language the average laymen can understand. We all know the average voter in the U.S. needs things explained simply and in a way that informs them of how this directly/indirectly impacts them. Democracy Now’s message is important and should be understood by all.
23:28 money and continuity of life are not debatable what good is money with polluted air polluted water and soils stripped of life sustainable elements that wont reproduce healthy food its like the erry statement in the movie water world " water everywhere and none of it could was safe to drink. The greed for isolation, pushing for first place, and the grandisation of more, bigger, better, further, faster will be the extinction of mankind. Where and how do you buy clean air clean water uncontaminated earth ? Corporations are not people those leading them to new business models have no souls and have no mercy.
My only issue with nuclear energy is who owns it. Private companies are far more likely to cut corners under capitalism than government. Profit margins always have to improve. Investors always need more promises. Cuts get made. People get hurt.
Candus can use 90 % recycled radioactive material as fuel and have 7 layers of safety features. Although, I do think Bitcoin is ridiculous and when we become more energy efficient we find new ways of needing tons more energy.
And yet, Canadian reactors continually release tritium into the environment-aka the great lakes. Tritium is bio accumulated by mollusks which is amplified up trophic levels
Stop fear-mongering about nuclear power! We're never going to get people to use less energy. That is not going to happen. Let's focus on getting good regulations in place, and do it right!
@kellywright5282 You realize that radioactive particles are released in the emissions of coal... Nuclear power plants don't regularly release any nuclear material it's all packaged into concrete and metal containers. There are some instances of nuclear material being released, but it's only in rare circumstances; in the same way that a car is more dangerous than flying even though flying can seem scarier.
@Curt-Gevert Everyone is investing in Zuckerberg and Musk , funny how that works. Politics mixed with the Entrepreneurial . But is there Oil , or Rice , in Space , I'd love to find out , Trump and Musk should be the first Visitors to Mars with a Live Stream . They can dance to YMCA 🎵🎶🤣
Nuclear is our best option. We should have been investing in a nuclear future for decades but let fear-mongering get the best of us and it has led to runaway carbon emissions and a greatly degraded environment.
Totally agree. The fallacy of the 'nuclear is too expensive' argument presumes there is only one way of doing nuclear power. The reality is that there are countless ways of doing it. It's like criticizing chemical energy because there are some dangerous things you can do with it, but if you said "let's ban chemical energy" no one would take you seriously (rightly so).
@@angel-7119 Tbh, it's mostly green energy folks such as Leona Morgan here in this video. There has been in the past propaganda pushed by fossil fuel companies against nuclear energy, but those reins have been taken up by the wind and solar folks. I wish it wasn't the case but it's the truth.
What are you talking about? My solar panels can't have a melt down, and don't produce toxic waste that cannot be stored anywhere on the planet during operation.
But, but, but, when Iran, a country that never intends to have nuclear arms, wants to pursue nuclear power. the US and those other 🐩🐩placed sanctions on Iran.
I always wonder what the carbon footprint is for these climate conferences. How many flights? How much infrastructure is built? Signs printed? Hotel laundry? Hotel energy? Lights, computers, tablets, phones, broadcast equipment, etc are used? Why are these meetings not held digitally?
Aliens use small Ion- Thorium Reactors on the Ship that crashed at Roswell. My dad was an Air Force intelligence Officer at Wright Patterson when the Debris and 4 Beings arrived there . 👽👽👽👽 One was alive for 4 Days . 4 Saucers circled White Sands Missile Range that Day . They aimed a Radar array at the last one and it came down . There's a lot more to the Story .
Disclaimer: I worked in the nuclear industry with ex-GE Nuclear engineers. Nuclear is currently expensive, impractical, and inherently riskier than renewables plus storage. SMRs are also terror targets and multiply the number containment areas that must be guarded and audited. Surveying YT videos on this topic, there are zillions of sockpuppet/troll commenters that look like Russian bots with LLM-like language chat bots or boiler room humans expressing odd support without a grasp of native English with similar idiosyncrasies. It's within the realm of possibility that Elon or MAANG are trying to manufacture consent for a nuclear "resurgence", even if it's unworkable, uneconomical, and pointless now in most applications.
Amy what a significant DEMOCRACY NOW that begins to illustrate the high tech aspect and the voices of native realities and a nuclear energy information resource service.
$1,200 being added to every household in Australia brings the realities of change and how it effects people's pocketbooks illustrating macro and micro policy realities for decision making.
UN , Indigenous Climate Actions, New Zealand march to protest Founding document, Treaty of Wangi being taken away trough a bill.UN , Indigenous Climate Actions, New Zealand march to protest Founding document, Treaty of Wangi being taken away trough a bill.
Thats another reason Harris lost, she kept mentioning being ahead with AI, most people realize AI is going to be a major problem....I cringed when she said that
As someone who studies nuclear personally its amazing how du'm some people are th'ey dont compare the dea'ths compared to that of fossil fuels its just ugh frustrating
The Westinghouse AP-1000 reactor can take a direct impact from a fully loaded Boeing 747 as regulations require. All the ones attempted in the US failed due to cost overruns and poor management. China has built many of these and they work. Its a physics and engineering challenge we figured out decades ago. Put the right people in the right position and we can manage this.
We NEED nuclear energy for any realistic transition to net zero. I'm ok with this. While it's not ideal tech oligarchs are the ones investing in this for AI, for general population energy demands nuclear energy is very safe, modern reactor design is so much safer than the ones such as Chernobyl and Fukushima, and small modular reactors are very promising. Nuclear energy good.
Renewables are always a misnomer. They should be called more slowly terminals. All energy requires limited resources. If we want our society to last millenia instead of centuries, we need to move away from Nuclear, Hydro, even Wind and Solar, and simply use less. All non-safetynet usage of energy should be massively taxed, and profiteering from things like Crypto investing should be taxed a magnitude more than that. School Children should be taught that the term "renewable" was a giant lie made by financial feudalists to shore up and preserve their power in the same breadth they are taught that all clergyment are con artists.
Will the magical “indigenous” people create the “green and clean” energy and study the health effects of whatever they deem is their issues? Because we can all sit back and let them fix it all with some Gaia mysticism and bright colors.
Can't get rid of nuclear waste, and it lasts forever. I'd rather not have AI, and I'm tired of these decisions being made for me.
Your tired of decisions being made for you, yet you sell your soul to the billionaires pushing green energy.
I agree with much of your sentiment. Just wanted to push back a little and say that the longer the half life of radioactive material, the less dangerous it is.
@@user-op9pu3pu6x Generation IV reactors produce a lot less waste than Gen III's.
@@user-op9pu3pu6xdo you mean that slow decay material has less dangerous forms or amounts of radiation?
meaning that waste from nuclear plants is safe for the biosphere if it reaches out if containment?
it's so complex to track these effects... things our cellphones do or UA-cam does (like transcripts and auto CC) are using AI models and we really don't get made aware of pollution impacts of that.
This would be something id be in favor of if it wasnt being driven by AI, crypto, and these tech companies specifically. I dont trust Google to work with the best, safest companies tbh.
After they were revealed to have built the first iteration of Skynet for somebody else, Google can go fuck themselves.
Leona Morgan's comments about the realities for Native communities is excellent. We still have 600 superfund sites of toxic and hazardous chemicals from WWII in the Northern Hemisphere. Dialog and sharing are so vital going forward.
Saying nuclear doesn't count as carbon-free energy because its supply chain is not carbon-free seems ... intentionally obtuse.
Thats why its called a "transition." The first solar panel was not built using solar power. The first oil was not drilled using oil. The first steam engine was not made possible by steam power. The first coal was not mined using coal. The first tools were built without tools. The first fire was built without fire.
... what's your point?
Yes, in general, I observe very few in the activism space speaking realistically when it comes to energy technology.
The raw materials for the first solar panel were mined using fossil fuels, and they will be for the foreseeable future. Same goes for batteries. The mining alone, e.g., for copper, requires sifting through tons of rock just to get a relatively small amount of the desired material. It is energy intensive and wasteful.
Production of renewable devices also affects the environment in places such as China, South America, and Africa.
To compare the different energy sources in a fair manner w.r.t. environmental impact is a major technical challenge. I get the impression that nuclear is in this regard a net improvement over renewables. But I'm not certain. What I am certain of is that I can safely disregard most of what is being claimed regarding energy production.
I tend to agree. But it does draw attention to the abysmal treatment of people on reservations to this day. It’s shameful.
Jeff Bazos is like Mr. Burns
But Liberals like him.
So is ELON MUSK, no?
@@kater2934 If Mr. Burns went through surgery to have the most punchable face of all time, sure.
Dont forgett Nvidia CEO
Nuclear engineer here. This is a terrible idea and will not end well.
SMRs don't scale down well, can't just be situated anywhere especially not in risky places like the flood plains of Houston where they let people build homes, would need constant security and competent monitoring and maintenance, the NRC has to approve them, they have to buy sufficient insurance which is a deal-breaker in its own right, they need massive capital investment, they take years to build, finding and training enough plant staff will also be very challenging (and doesn't scale well with SMRs), and people won't want them in their communities with near rabid-level objection.
The cryptobros just what the shiny pretty unobtanium tech like flying cars to privatize the profits and socialize the externalities like costs and risks.
I suggest a book _50 Years in Nuclear Power: A Retrospective_ by S. Levy formerly of GE. Our computer names were all named after The Simpsons' characters. 😅
Is it the deregulation aspect? Or the technocratic overlords
Construction worker here. This is a terrible idea and will not end well.
You’re a gay engineer
I get that more small plants may be harder to keep safe than fewer large ones? maybe?
but is there any flexibility here to make nuclear fission a viable option that is both safe and that takes into account the pollution impacts of mining and waste?
Fusion's not a thing, all renewables have their own costs to the planet....
My City invested in Palo Verde in AZ while it was being built. They are running out of water from Colorado River. WTF are they going to use when they have to cool down the bars after they've been spent?
Replace the bars with new bwrs😢
You want to study the effects of Uranium/depleted Uranium look at the US Military troops that served in the Iraq war and the civilians in Iraq who were all exposed to depleted Uranium by the US Military.
❤ AMEN
Mmmmm😮
I found out the other day, at an event with Mike Prysner and Abby Martin about their upcoming film, that just conventional weaponry is highly toxic and as led to the majority of deleterious health effects in some areas.
Something else the US taxpayer can pay for so they can make more profits rather than pay livable wages? Great plan.
Hey, if it is broken why fix it?
Yea now we can get our Amazon purchase in an hour instead of next day 😭
Not to mention fallout from even Newer Nuke Plants .
Nuclear power plant jobs?
I worked at the Millstone Reactor at Niantic CT Built by Halibuton Brown and Root , Dick Cheney's Corp . Glowed green at Night . I wore a Dosimeter Badge , down the Road developed 4 forms of Cancer . Wouldn't recommend that you work at a Nuclear Plant site .
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Whatever the power source, the server centers run extremely hot, so you'd need huge volume of water for cooling.
What an informative show. Really impressive.
Why do you have someone on claiming that nuclear is not carbon free? This is such a bad faith argument. All power sources take energy to build and setup so the same thing could be said of wind/solar.
Nuclear plants have a higher energy density than wind and solar farms. Idk why this person is arguing about land use when this is the case. You need to have people on who have not been biased against nuclear for decades already.
Exactly!
The level of greed is astonishing today… no cure for that. .Dorothy Parker wrote a poem entitled The Flaw in Paganism , “Drink and dance, laugh and lie, love the reeling midnight through for tomorrow we shall die, (but alas we never do.”) seems fitting.
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Thanks, Amy, for your engagement!🎉
It is good to get some professional level reporting that isn't oligarch-owned. Don't forget to chip in a bit to help pay for it!
Do we need nuclear power... i think we probably do.
Do we need AI data centers... nah!
Yeah, that's also my take on it. Anti-nuclear activists are often incredibly misguided on the actual dangers of nuclear plants. Imo they're a great backbone for an energy grid that also relies on wind/solar/hydro.
Having them power AI and crypto is a shame though.
Yeah agreed. Nuclear is not as dangerous as people think. The danger of carbon pollution is much greater.
I feel bad for people who live in areas where tech companies are buying electricity from nuclear, and they have to pay for it with higher energy bills
What could possibly go wrong?
This doesn’t even address the issue of nuclear waste which is substantial to say the least! We don’t want to solve one problem just to create a new one! Besides, as was pointed out, the enrichment process needed to make uranium usable requires energy to operate the centrifuge which has to come from somewhere; usually a fossil fuel burning generation plant. It’s an absurd path to choose when the earth itself is brimming with geothermal energy!
We are developing new methods to reduce waste.
If they could get Elon Musk to shoot spent Fuel Rods into the Sun , it might be viable , NOT . 500,000 Years to turn Plutonium into Lead .
@@Curt-GevertWhat are they ? A new 🦠 Bacterium they eats Radioactive ☢️ Materials .
@@Curt-Gevert~ With geothermal, there IS no waste. Stop wasting money on the creation of new problems!
@@menudobucket9837 Fine invest in companies that do that.
Nuclear energy definitely needs safety improvements, but it's easily the most efficient and one of the best energy sources we have currently
there's only one way out of this, we ALL need to massively reduce our OVERALL consumption and live much, much poorer, ALL of us
Overpopulation is the real problem that needs to be addressed. The population needs to be reduced by 75%.
Lol! Tell that to the global warming alarmists who use private jets to fly around the world eating the finest foods as they tell us we need to own nothing and eat bugs
I am already there. And it sucks. The oligarchs are crooks 😢😮 ! 😱😳😡🥺👿😒😜🤪
@@Valkron11 fuck them, what about you Valk? what are YOU gonna do?
@@MrDannyHeim Nah, I'm gonna consume more 😈
Putting cryptocurrency (specifically currencies that require lots of compute) tech alongside training and use of Large language Models use for AI is a very misleading coupling of two totally different uses of energy. LLMs are use for things like translation and learning which helps enhance understanding and communication among people including those who are misinformed or uniformed about energy challenges of the world. Cryptocurrencies that require tons of compute in the other hand are in no way essential or necessary for anything that advances humanity.
The hypothetical benefits of LLM is distinct from it's practical, hamfisted, forced integration into every service
Madness...🤦♀️
As crazy as it sounds, they may have the ability to transform the energy sector away from fossil fuels with this move. Nuclear is indeed greener than solar when mining, manufacturing and maintenance costs are included.
Nuclear power also spreads less radioactive waste into the environment, that honor goes to coal with natural gas from fracking coming in second. Because the radioactive isotopes are what are desired, mining for fuel for nuclear power in fact removes radioactive material from the environment that was naturally there.
Nuclear is greener than any fossil fuel and is more reliable. Let's keep the nuclear industry on its toes with ever-increasing safety, but not get distracted by a misguided total distrust of it. It's worth noting even some of Chernobyl was still running in the year 2000.
Totally, Matt. And Chernobyl area is mostly clean of radiation etc. Fear porn is what is used against the SAFEST energy (nuclear) ever devised by men. Lowest number of casualties in entire energy sector. Coal killed millions, oil/gas killed hundreds of thousands, hydro took huge swaths of land away. These are abundant and okay, mind you, but those are the costs. Green energy IS NOT green.
Chernobol was a graphite moderated, water cooled, RBMK reactor. The design of Soviet reactors like that were flawed from the start, but the socialist system didn't allow for dissent. Further, the people running the reactor failed to follow their own protocols, related to socialism. The same kind of socialist system most of these people want implemented. Modern reactors are extremely safe.
Very true!
@Curt-Gevert Quite right, Curt. I retired from power engineering 10 years ago but am well read on the topic. Generation III and generation IV reactors are superbly safe, and have very little dangerous waste. Frederik Pohl's 1987 novel "Chernobyl" has a lot of actual info in it. People should read up on this.
building nuclear power plant is not green and you have to build lots of them, it is said that doubling the nuclear power plant we have right now will only contribute to 4% in less gaz emission. we need to slow down and start to produce better and lasting product. but no one are saying that. remember the gaz emission effect on climate of today is from 30 years ago emissions. So we are in deep deep trouble since no one has slow down yet.
Well guess what wind farms and solar panels are not the answer. They won't even cover the smallest fraction of our energy needs
What are you talking about? Nuclear energy is already 18% of power generation, doubling would be 36%. And it's not green, but it's easily the greenest thing we have that can actually power our world
@@aronm5329 According to scenarios from the World Nuclear Association and the OECD Nuclear Energy Agency (both nuclear lobby organisations), doubling the capacity of nuclear power worldwide in 2050 would only decrease greenhouse gas emissions by around 4%. But in order to do that, the world would need to bring 37 new large nuclear reactors to the grid every year from now, year on year, until 2050.
@@jeanyvestheriault8362 I wasn't able to find this anywhere. Can you link your source?
@@jeanyvestheriault8362 OMG that's in 2050 and worldwide energy is expected to go up by as much as 101% by then. To double our overall energy and still decrease co2 emissions by 4% is freakin' phenomenal!
You kind of just proved my point. If we 4x our solar and wind, and supplement the remainder with coal, we would increase co2 emissions by over 80% of current levels. What would be your solution?
Deregulation is definitely a worry, but current safety standards are good.
Sure, nuclear energy has carbon emissions in its supply chains, but so does solar & wind. The regulations on the nuclear energy industry mean that it's actually far less wasteful than what solar and wind will be (when their life cycle ends).
No doubt there's issues relating to indigenous people and child/forced labour, but that's a general issue of global capitalism & mining companies. Metals needed for solar & wind have some really awful supply chains, such as the DRC. The largest ranium source Kazak, which I struggle to find much info on, so its likely injustices happening. But no doubt Canada and Australia (sure there are awful indigenous issues with land use in oz) will have far better mining/labour practices than the countries cobalt/nickel is sourced from.
One more thing that wasn't mentioned is that we need baseload power! If tech companies don't have nuclear to supply their demand 24/7, they won't be using renewable & battery tech. It'll be mostly gas, as is the case now!
I don't understand the push for Nuclear Power Plants when we are full aware of its dangers . This is unacceptable & I am very surprise these at E Commerce & Big TEC investing in this .
The push is coming from an army of Reddit bots and tech Bros who think they’re suddenly environmentalist by touting nuclear.
Are u really surprised profits over people
@@judybrennan7930 well said
Is the country of France in great danger because of their reliance on nuclear power?
The plutonium refinery at Los Alamos uses a coal fire power plant that produces enough energy to power Manhattan in order to create fuel rods. Between that, the mining, and the half million years of energy to care for the storage of the waste, makes it also the worst energy source there is in relation to climate.
It's not just LLMs and other machine learning systems, it's the massive digital storage we all need for our pictures, videos, etc!
Then there's Google indexing all the scientific literature, magazines, books, newspapers, etc etc.
Finally all those cryptocurrencies, yikes....
Oh yeah, all that data Google, Apple and Microsoft collect, on all those phones out there....every time I pick up this Motorola Android device sixteen accelerometers tell Google where I am, what I'm doing with the phone physically, as well as every web site I read, every video I watch, every picture & video I upload....I mean, man, it must add up!
Back in the late 60s I had a prescient high school teacher that, along with biology, physiology and other life sciences sciences talked about something called "the greenhouse effect" - he made it clear that it was in our future. One of the thought experiments he ran us through was the question , "even after we clean up the pollution, invent a environmentally safe power source and make all our transportation electric, what's the single pollutant we can never eliminate?
The answer, of course, was
heat.....
Thanks, I didn't realize exactly our current situation now I will act even more appropriate to circumstances
HYDROGEN ECONOMY, GEOTHERMAL ENERGY & OCEAN THERMAL ELECTRICAL POWER GENERATION is the only alternative today to fight economic crisis & energy crisis.
No nuclear can work, if you like those, you can invest in companies that do that work
There is a lot of energy waste in the U.S.. Same thing with water. We take too much for granted and forget how much effort, money, and other things were required to make these things. You have to be intelligent to create articial intelligence. Mankind has not displayed this ability yet.
Ceasefire Biden.
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But isn't nuclear now safer with all of our new technology it's nothing like the old just asking? As according to research it can now be recycled today almost 90% of it is recycled
My parents said never play with fire
@@akjordan1680 So stop coal, natural gas, and biomass and move to nuclear? 👍
They also said, don't sh** where you eat, but here we are.
Don't drive a car because there is fire inside the engine. Also don't turn on your furnace.
It’s *not* carbon neutral. It takes carbon to build, maintain, employees commutes etc. People thought AI could be our saviour but it’s just making our predicament much worse.
Surveillance/defence drones are to be leased out with small modular reactors to enforce security and deter any protest.
People saw them in New Jersey
The activists worried about mining and cleanup for nuclear are honestly heroes. As much as the power plant is great (imho), the externalities need to be addressed as with any industry. I hope people who agree also worry about how much (more) radiation is released from the coal industry (as a specific concern, not just the blanket term "pollution").
We don’t need Bitcoin, every other crypto cryptocurrency is more efficient with a fraction of the power needed.
Earth will survive and recover, I’m just not sure about the future of the human race
This rhetoric should be translated into language the average laymen can understand. We all know the average voter in the U.S. needs things explained simply and in a way that informs them of how this directly/indirectly impacts them. Democracy Now’s message is important and should be understood by all.
23:28 money and continuity of life are not debatable
what good is money with polluted air polluted water and soils stripped of life sustainable elements that wont reproduce healthy food its like the erry statement in the movie water world " water everywhere and none of it could was safe to drink.
The greed for isolation, pushing for first place, and the grandisation of more, bigger, better, further, faster will be the extinction of mankind.
Where and how do you buy clean air clean water uncontaminated earth ? Corporations are not people those leading them to new business models have no souls and have no mercy.
We are going to make all the same mistakes we made last century, except this will be the last time.
Why can’t we stop data centers?
Who said data centers are vital?
considering that your little comment lives in a data center -- you.
@@romulus_ yeah but one bitcoin transaction using the same amount of power as one household’s use is obscene !
@@rthompson7282 regulations are key.
@@romulus_ if there were no comments on YT, I could are less, so NO I do not care.
The video you are watching is being served by a data center.
Green Energy and Green business is the only future.
I feel that if I knew more about how bitcoin was made, I would be more annoyed
yeah might as well make nuclear waste in the pursuit of shit coins and anime porn why not?
Isn't nuclear green? Wtf
You mean the glow from the waste that can't be stored anywhere on the planet?
Yucca Mtn in Nevada@@heavymetalpermaculture
You think it’s green because two people paid a lot of money to run bots on reddit
@kaiyack dude, question: how do you make steel?
@@cleomenes01 lol guess you havent heard of new processes that don’t need the coke for reduction
My only issue with nuclear energy is who owns it. Private companies are far more likely to cut corners under capitalism than government. Profit margins always have to improve. Investors always need more promises. Cuts get made. People get hurt.
Candus can use 90 % recycled radioactive material as fuel and have 7 layers of safety features.
Although, I do think Bitcoin is ridiculous and when we become more energy efficient we find new ways of needing tons more energy.
And yet, Canadian reactors continually release tritium into the environment-aka the great lakes. Tritium is bio accumulated by mollusks which is amplified up trophic levels
Stop fear-mongering about nuclear power! We're never going to get people to use less energy. That is not going to happen. Let's focus on getting good regulations in place, and do it right!
We also can develop new safety systems, too.
Nuclear emits less radiation than coal power plants, and obviously less carbon and smog.
Wrong
@kellywright5282 You realize that radioactive particles are released in the emissions of coal... Nuclear power plants don't regularly release any nuclear material it's all packaged into concrete and metal containers. There are some instances of nuclear material being released, but it's only in rare circumstances; in the same way that a car is more dangerous than flying even though flying can seem scarier.
That figure doesn’t include the uranium mining, processing, transport and disposal of waste. You don’t just shovel uranium into the firebox.
We don't need either....solar and wind are free and don't kill anyone.
@@WanderingExistence nuclear plants release tritium on the regular. Tritium is bio accumulated by mollusks.
good thing the AI bubble will burst way before any of those plants are finished
Thanks 👍
Funny how the Nuclear Bros™ have never heard of pumped storage or deep geothermal.
Seriously, its too kind on the environment.
Geothermal is the ONLY way to go besides Wind , and Solar .
Invest in those companies
@Curt-Gevert Everyone is investing in Zuckerberg and Musk , funny how that works. Politics mixed with the Entrepreneurial . But is there Oil , or Rice , in Space , I'd love to find out , Trump and Musk should be the first Visitors to Mars with a Live Stream . They can dance to YMCA 🎵🎶🤣
@@Curt-Gevert lol because publicly traded companies always do whats best for the planet
Nuclear is our best option. We should have been investing in a nuclear future for decades but let fear-mongering get the best of us and it has led to runaway carbon emissions and a greatly degraded environment.
Totally agree. The fallacy of the 'nuclear is too expensive' argument presumes there is only one way of doing nuclear power. The reality is that there are countless ways of doing it. It's like criticizing chemical energy because there are some dangerous things you can do with it, but if you said "let's ban chemical energy" no one would take you seriously (rightly so).
who is doing the fear mongering and why?
@@angel-7119 Tbh, it's mostly green energy folks such as Leona Morgan here in this video. There has been in the past propaganda pushed by fossil fuel companies against nuclear energy, but those reins have been taken up by the wind and solar folks. I wish it wasn't the case but it's the truth.
Best option for rich people to keep making money with colonial power systems. Gates has a pile of yellow cake and you’re selling it.
What are you talking about? My solar panels can't have a melt down, and don't produce toxic waste that cannot be stored anywhere on the planet during operation.
But, but, but, when Iran, a country that never intends to have nuclear arms, wants to pursue nuclear power. the US and those other 🐩🐩placed sanctions on Iran.
For some reason "The Simpsons" comes to mind
This planet can't hardly support the human energy needs, let alone AI. The cost outweighs the benefits.
I always wonder what the carbon footprint is for these climate conferences. How many flights? How much infrastructure is built? Signs printed? Hotel laundry? Hotel energy? Lights, computers, tablets, phones, broadcast equipment, etc are used?
Why are these meetings not held digitally?
The stupidity of humans is boundless.
Nuke power is crap unless it's with Thorium. Hear that Gates?
Gates hears nothing and helps nothing. Promised CoVid shots in 2020 for poor nations. Kept patients on injections and barely delivered 10ks shots.
Aliens use small Ion- Thorium Reactors on the Ship that crashed at Roswell. My dad was an Air Force intelligence Officer at Wright Patterson when the Debris and 4 Beings arrived there . 👽👽👽👽 One was alive for 4 Days . 4 Saucers circled White Sands Missile Range that Day . They aimed a Radar array at the last one and it came down . There's a lot more to the Story .
This rapidly growing energy demand is getting interesting!!
Why isn’t THORIUM being explained instead of NUCLEAR?
Good bots
Disclaimer: I worked in the nuclear industry with ex-GE Nuclear engineers. Nuclear is currently expensive, impractical, and inherently riskier than renewables plus storage. SMRs are also terror targets and multiply the number containment areas that must be guarded and audited.
Surveying YT videos on this topic, there are zillions of sockpuppet/troll commenters that look like Russian bots with LLM-like language chat bots or boiler room humans expressing odd support without a grasp of native English with similar idiosyncrasies. It's within the realm of possibility that Elon or MAANG are trying to manufacture consent for a nuclear "resurgence", even if it's unworkable, uneconomical, and pointless now in most applications.
Nuclear power becomes feasible, cheaper and safer with Thorium instead of Plutonium/Uranium.
Nuclear energy is the future.
Never for the good of everyone, never.
Amy what a significant DEMOCRACY NOW that begins to illustrate the high tech aspect and the voices of native realities and a nuclear energy information resource service.
Seek peace
Not controversial. Early environmentalists saw nuclear energy as an answer to fossil fuels.
And early environmentalist did not know that tritium is bio accumulated by mollusks and amplified up trophic levels.
It was never about saving the planet
Literally skynet.
Oh so this is how skynet gets released.
So this is where the matrix started
What a dystopian and ugly end of the world
AI hasnt done shit to benefit humanity.
The AI heresy needs to be eradicated as soon as yesterday!!!
Why would a monopoly and its partner, both of whom are complicit in genocide, care about the safety of old reactors?
$1,200 being added to every household in Australia brings the realities of change and how it effects people's pocketbooks illustrating macro and micro policy realities for decision making.
The energy sellers generating their customers again, like oil and everything made of plastic... A last century grift.
Very informative. Thank you DN.
Big Brother is Google
UN , Indigenous Climate Actions, New Zealand march to protest Founding document, Treaty of Wangi being taken away trough a bill.UN , Indigenous Climate Actions, New Zealand march to protest Founding document, Treaty of Wangi being taken away trough a bill.
clean energy that will clean us from the surface of the planet. Fuku still isn't over and isn't going to be over.
Reality Finally Sets In ... 💯%
Nuclear waste is really a non-issue. For context I was a SRO (Sr. Reactor Operator) for years, so I know of what I speak.
Once again- no apparent policy difference between both parties united in opposition to the will of the voters.
Thats another reason Harris lost, she kept mentioning being ahead with AI, most people realize AI is going to be a major problem....I cringed when she said that
I had no idea our country wants to triple nuclear energy!!!!!!!!!
As someone who studies nuclear personally its amazing how du'm some people are th'ey dont compare the dea'ths compared to that of fossil fuels its just ugh frustrating
Why don't they just use AI to figure out free energy
The Westinghouse AP-1000 reactor can take a direct impact from a fully loaded Boeing 747 as regulations require. All the ones attempted in the US failed due to cost overruns and poor management. China has built many of these and they work. Its a physics and engineering challenge we figured out decades ago. Put the right people in the right position and we can manage this.
We NEED nuclear energy for any realistic transition to net zero. I'm ok with this. While it's not ideal tech oligarchs are the ones investing in this for AI, for general population energy demands nuclear energy is very safe, modern reactor design is so much safer than the ones such as Chernobyl and Fukushima, and small modular reactors are very promising. Nuclear energy good.
I think they need more energy for all them AI Robots that will take our jobs
Renewables are always a misnomer. They should be called more slowly terminals. All energy requires limited resources. If we want our society to last millenia instead of centuries, we need to move away from Nuclear, Hydro, even Wind and Solar, and simply use less. All non-safetynet usage of energy should be massively taxed, and profiteering from things like Crypto investing should be taxed a magnitude more than that. School Children should be taught that the term "renewable" was a giant lie made by financial feudalists to shore up and preserve their power in the same breadth they are taught that all clergyment are con artists.
I'm for nuclear energy. But these guys?! Weak
Will the magical “indigenous” people create the “green and clean” energy and study the health effects of whatever they deem is their issues? Because we can all sit back and let them fix it all with some Gaia mysticism and bright colors.