Next time use the remaining vinyl plank boxes as weights for the first row, stack them on top of each other in order for the first row to remain within place while installing the second row...trust me I learned the hard way until a neighbor of mine gave me the hint on how the keep the first row in place, while installing my second row of vinyl planks. i also removed all of my baseboards, and made sure to leave 1/4 in gap throughout the perimeter of the flooring, then afterward I reinstalled them without any quarter round which ended up giving the baseboards and flooring a much cleaner look....compliments continue to come about the installation of our flooring....in-conclusion I did also installed moisture barer underlayment underneath the new flooring, due to previous flooring having white mold throughout the entire previous flooring when we removed it, which in turn caused a lot allergy issue for both my wife and I, even though both flooring stated very clearly on the box that they came with an attached moisture underlayment...I did't wanted to take another chance again, we also sprayed the entire first floor concrete with mold remover and let it dry completely prior to installation of the new flooring....You and I used the sameeeee exact same tools and brand...luvvvv rigid
@john probst nooooooooo🤣😂🤣😂 you betrayed the family...you never go against the Ridgid family... loyalty means everything to the milwaukee family including his ancestor Ridgid and Ryobi 🤣😂🤣😂
Guy at home depot sold us on the lifeproof stuff as well, he did contracting and was being very honest comparing to other brands - superior in every way and doesnt require the underlayment and really does not show wear so we opted for it - brilliant cost saver right there. Will be doing ours this week and your vid helped making sure we didnt miss anything :)
I also have a lot of warm wood tones in my condo and have been looking more at the warmer vinyl planks. Never thought about going with gray. Thank you!
Shara I love your projects and your presentation. Simple and straight forward, great work on all your videos. Get ready I'm sure your channel will explode in 2020. Not explode but you know what I mean.
Bobby Sharp's Made by Hand Shop haha I know what you mean 😂 thank you I appreciate that! I’ve been working really hard on it this year and hoping it eventually pays off 👍
Vinyl floating floors are great. They are simple to install and very durable. We will be replacing our mismatched hard woods within the year and we’ll definitely be checking out the life proof brand. Thanks for the video.
Shara Woodshop Diaries lol, my dog’s nails have been known to scratch glass so I totally get it. My son also has the ability to perform destructive testing on everything. Looking forward to the next video!
Michael Schnoblen Lifeproof is great but LOL you should check out the new NuCore Performance flooring lol sounds perfect for you! Lol it is the toughest on scratching I’ve found yet!
One caution in regards to the installation; make sure the surface being covered, be it concrete or wood, is as flat as possible. Installed this with a friend over an existing wood floor that we didn’t know wasn’t flat; it had subtle hills and valleys, like widespread swells on the ocean, that weren’t noticed until part way into the install. Given the flexibility of the new flooring, it made trying to align and click the planks together more difficult. We managed to finish the installation, but it took more than twice as long as comparative sized areas in her house. But I recommend LifeProof, and plan to use it in my own house.
@@joawhite426, I didn’t have much trouble with those. Used a piece of scrap floor to line up an oscillating saw, and cut the bottom off the trim and/or jambs enough for the floor to slide under.
@@WoodshopDiaries Definitely! Doing my floors this coming weekend, and I'm gonna use this same tactic! Thanks for the video, very helpful and informative 👍
I lived in California most of my life, but moved to Phoenix for a few years to be closer to my parents who retired there. My whole house was tile except the bedrooms which were carpeted. The carpet was always a challenge to keep up with two small dogs who were only semi-house trained, so I took out the carpet in my master bedroom and office which was the smallest bedroom, and replaced it with laminate myself which I loved, and only had one dog accident afterwards. I then moved back to a condo in San Diego which was completely upgraded with Life Proof laminate which looks great and is not as hard as the product I used in Arizona. My only complaint with Life Proof is that it has a softer more vinyl surface which scratches easier when you move furniture over it, and the surface itself is dull, but textured which makes it slightly harder to clean if your dog makes a #2 on it, and believe me my new floor is like a test bed for Life Proof. Overall it is a great product, and has more cushion give than most laminate products I have seen, but it has a softer surface which scratches easier.
Great Video, nicely done! I'm looking at the Lifeproof 8.6" x 72" Product. Alys Oak is the color, 8mm thick, and has a 22 mil wear layer. I do like the color of Sterling Oak, but it's only in available 48" Planks, and only has a 6 mil wear layer.
I didnt see the wear layer listed in the home depot product description. How did you find it? Thx! Im looking for a griege color and this looks good but not going to choose a 6mil
your place is cool,the only thing that would make it better would be a loft bedroom. Love your projects,going to try the big ass cabinet build this summer.
Wow, you did an excellent job with this flooring. It looks gorgeous & you make it look so easy💕. Just wondering, how many boxes did you use for your space. Thank you...definitely a thumbs up👍👍!
Thank you! I don’t remember how many boxes we used, but you can check the product link on the description to see how many sq for a box covers to figure out how much you’d need for your space 👍
Did you put it under your fridge and range? Or did you leave your fridge and range directly on the concrete? I’m trying to figure out the best way to deal with heavy appliances and the floating floor.
Ok pro tip not so much with concert floor but with sub floor in your first row once it's down screw it in place for the rest of the floor make sure you do it as close to the edge so it will be covered up with the quarter round make sure at the end to remove those screws to allow for expansion.
Hahaha I don’t blame you. Totally understand...as I always do things the hard way.....don’t even ask me about my old house how I put the hardwood on....🥺🤯😅🤦🏻♂️ hey lets just start both sides at the same time...and meet at the middle...
Nice job. I would have removed and reinstalled the baseboards (not crazy about the quarter round look). Also, while click floors are really easy to install they can be a real pain if you ever need to replace a damaged board.
Question please? Since you have had this flooring now for approx a year ( as it looks from the date you posted this video) are still pleased with it? Any problems with scratching? Would you do it all again. I will not be installing it myself, but looking at having LifeProof installed. Thank you in advance for feedback.
Did you have any dips and high spots on the concrete? I am doing my basement now and see some spots where there is a 1/4 inch dip. But mostly about half of that. If i put a 4 ft level on the floor i can slide a cardboard underneath in the middle. So now debating if i should ignore it and go ahead or use a floor self leveling mix which can be messy and time consuming. I became aware of the problem after i did almost half the room and noticed that when i bounce a tennis ball on the floor some places the ball does not come up and stays low. Then i realized it was where the level was off. I was using a similar LVP product with built in underlayment padding. May be after sometime with weight on it and walking on it the vinyl conforms to the contour better.
Our concrete was far from perfect. The instructions say to fill in low spots and remove high spots-just like with any flooring installs. But, we took our chances and installed it without doing anything to these spots. So far, we have no issues with the flooring itself separating or anything. But when you walk on these spots, it sounds somewhat hollow. Technically you are supposed to level it.
I did this in our laundry room and it was easy to do. But at Home RenoVision Jeff makes a good case for using underlayment from Global Floorings. I installed over a floor of old peel and stick vinyl tiles. I tried to remove them but they were so difficult to remove that I replaced the one tile I did remove and just put the new floor on top of that. I did this about two years ago and it has held up well and looks beautiful. I choose the Sterling Oak as well but Home Depot did have a nice selection of colors.
Hi Gene, I watched Jeff' video too. I bought the Lifeproof vinyl plank flooring to put throughout a condo. The only reason that I am considering underlayment is add more soundproofing. But the Lifeproof information says that the warranty is valid only if you use their underlayment product! How has the Global Flooring underlayment worked out for you? Any problems with it?? Thanks, Bella
How long did it take you to install the flooring not counting the quarter round trim work? We are wanting to install it in our house and I was wanting to estimate how much time it will take. I’m not sure if I want to do a whole house or hire it done.
Did you have any issues with the interlock part breaking? I have worked with two other brands, and the interlock part of the planks were super easy to crack. I had to be very careful laying them because once that breaks, it’s impossible to get the planks to lock together. It was very frustrating.
I’ve seen some comments on this video that other people had issues (of course, with random comments, you never know if they were actually using the same stuff I was 🤷♀️) but personally I didn’t have issue with installing it. I was impressed with how easy it was to put together. And I’m never careful with anything haha.
Has your dog scratched to floor? We have a 60 pound American Bulldog that gets the zoomies. We are not sure what kind of floor to get. She has destroyed our engineered hard wood that came with the house. Your floor looks great!
Our dog scratched the crap out of our engineered wood floor on our old house too. But so far, she hasn’t done any damage to this one. I’ve been genuinely surprised by how tough they’ve been against her doggie nails.
Irvin Wittmeier that’s what I was thinking...the flooring doesn’t expand like wood, but the WALLS do. I know our walls expand and contract seasonally quite a bit because the gaps between cabinets and walls will vary by the time of the year. I’m sure it affects flooring the same way 👍
Leaving the 1/4" gap is for the movement of everything else, the floor is stable, but no guarantee on the rest of the construction, 1/4" is safe a guideline
Were there any dips in the concrete? Was it leveled before installing the floor? If there were dips, how has the floor performed over the dips? I have concrete floors also. Just wondering thanks.
Our concrete was definitely not perfect and we didn’t bother leveling it. We’ve had zero issues in the last year we’ve had it. It’s not separating or bubbling up. It’s just like the day we put it down (just with more dog hair because I need to vacuum 😂😂). Hope that helps. I would 100% use this stuff again for what it’s worth.
Great job!!! We're ordering the exact same flooring, it's at $3.19 per sqft right now, not sure if that's a sale price, do you remember how much you paid per sqft? Thanks
Was your floor completely level? I wanted to install laminate plank in our kitchen but I have a feeling when I remove the worn and chipped linoleum, it's not going to be level.
It was definitely not completely level. To be honest, the contractor who did the concrete did a pretty crummy job. We laid it anyway and there are a few spots in the floor where we notice it “gives” a little when you step on it because it wasn’t level, but we’ve not had any issues result from it. I love the floor and I’d definitely install it again. But if I did, I’d probably use some concrete leveling compound or simply install a foam type underlayment just to kind of “fill in” the uneven-ness.
Hey Shara... did you ever post a video of you guys building your garage studio apartment? I really like the layout. Would you be willing to share the overall dimensions of the building and what portion is dedicated to living space? My guess is 30 x 50 with half for living space. Thanks for your time and attention on my behalf... Matt
Hi! So I don’t have a video of the whole thing because we were in a major time crunch so I didn’t bother filming it. But I did enter the kitchen process in a renovation challenge (we won!!) so a lot of it is documented here: www.woodshopdiaries.com/jeffrey-court-fall-renovation-challenge-2018-final-reveal-kitchen/ And here: www.woodshopdiaries.com/from-the-ground-up-youre-building-a-what/ It’s a 30x50 with a porch on the front. I built the divider wall to split living and shop space at 28/22...28 for living and 22 for shop/garage.
Those turned out well, I’m getting ready to do the floors in my basement and wanted to try these but I’m nervous I not sure if I will be happy with them. Do they move up and down when you walk on them or do they feel solid?
They don’t “bounce” if that’s what you mean....unless your floor is uneven. If you lay it on uneven floor and there’s a void underneath, they can flex.
I'd love this without the quarter round look. Do you have advice for getting around this? I guess it would work if you removed existing trim and reinstalled lower after flooring but that's not worth the extra work... Thanks for the detailed video!!
Yep, that’s my only suggestion. That or use an oscillating tool to trim the bottom edge off the trim so the floor slips underneath. Both would be equally painful and take a really long time.
Do you put quarter inch spacers on all the walls. I noticed you out it on the first row but not at the end? I am assuming you’re leaving 1/4 space on all the walls and not just the starting wall
I used the same exact rigid oscillating saw, when cutting into the lower door frames and closet door frames as well, luvvvvvved it..matter fact i purchase more rigid cordless tools..which I'm really enjoying.
Awesome! I’m a huge fan of that little saw. I never used my old corded one but now that this one is cordless, I’ve found myself using an oscillating saw much more often for odds and ends. Glad you’re enjoying yours!
@@WoodshopDiaries Did you know that Ridgid and Ryobi are built by Milwaukee tools...so you know thier product are build very wellllll....that why I will continue to purchase other tool product from that manufacturer.
Love it. I would 100% install this again. We’ve had zero issues and still no scratches after a year of my 50 lb dog chasing toys all over it. Honestly impressed.
Nice job, looks really good. Just went out and bought the same ones as you after seeing this video. I am not handy in the least, but I am determined to try this and hopefully save some money by not paying someone to do it. My question is...Do I need to put the spacers around the whole perimeter of the floor, including up against the staircase leading up to the main floor? We are installing this in our basement.
The instructions that come with the flooring should tell you. From my understanding, you’re supposed to leave 1/4” gap between the perimeter and any stationary surface you butt up to (toe kicks on cabinets, vanities, any stationary objects). But always follow the instructions that come with the flooring.
Thanks for making this video! Something I've always wondered is how does the vinyl stay in place/not shift once it's installed? Once you remove the spacers from the edges, does that not give it room to slide/shift?
why do you need to put spacing? I always wondered about that. Your floor came out great! how do you like the vinyl flooring? I can't decide if I want vinyl or laminate floors.
@@felicia5620 you need spacing for the changing of seasons. In the summer it gets warmer and humidity rises. It will expend every so slightly so you don't want it to end up bubbling. Vinyl is great! We put it in our house in Austin TX - I think we did about 700 sq feet in a weekend. I plan on putting down about the same amount in my basement in Omaha.
@@felicia5620 Not all vinyl is the same as the Lifeproof. Believe me I did my kitchen and liked it so well we pulled up all the carpet in the rest of the house and went with this . It has been a year now and still looks as good as day one. We had a water leak and Lifeproof lived up to its claims. I don't think there is a laminate that would have survived. Another plus is that it does provide a small amount of insulation against the cold floor in the winter. It is not like walking barefoot on bare cement.
You can add it if you want but it’s not needed. You’d hear dog claws on wood floor or concrete, too. It’s no more noisy inside than it is when she walks on the shop floor outside (concrete).
No issues so far. We’ve had it a little over a year and still love it 👍 we’d definitely install this again and so far, it’s held up great to our dog and daily use
@@WoodshopDiaries Thank you for your FAST Reply... I truly enjoyed this video. I am getting ready to lay down vinyl plank in a Class A RV I am refurbishing. You did such a Beautiful job on those floors... and the video was GREAT. Thank you so much for your help.
Just installed this and my biggest problem was the floor kept moving no matter how well I secured my spacer pieces. What a pain. Even 5 rows in with the weight of all the other flooring boxes on it, every time I tapped in a piece the whole floor shifted.
Thanks for sharing. I am looking to install vinyl planks. I am terrified that it will scratch under furniture and dogs paws. As well as swelling if it gets wet. How's it holding up?
@@alexandergonzo683 thats what I said but if you look on the box it says that before installing if you have a problem like I did they will not replace your floor you will have to fight to try to get your money back
Hi! You just cut the last piece of the first row to fit, then use what’s left to start a new row, or just cut a piece in half or thirds, whatever. It doesn’t have to be exact, the seams just need to be 6” or more apart row to row.
looking to do this in our home soon, so great timing! Question, does your floor seem pretty flat? i know there are comments about uneven flooring issues when laying it. i havent seen the slab that ours will go on, it still has carpet, but im concerned with it being a little wavy. thanks for the video!
Keasbeysknight awesome! So the instructions said that the floor should be +/- 1/4” over a ten foot span. I didn’t measure, but I know our concrete is really unlevel. I’m definitely sure it’s beyond that range. So I was honestly concerned about this as well, but laid it anyway and it hasn’t given us any issues. They laid down fine and so far (it’s been a few weeks of running/walking/abusing it) and I haven’t seen any separation or bowing anywhere. And it doesn’t feel weird anywhere walking on it. We’ve almost always laid floor when the flatness was beyond the suggested range and so far no issues in the old house with other types of flooring or in the new house with this one.
That’s hard to say. But I will say that we’ve had it for almost two years and we have a WILD 60 lb dog that runs around like a maniac chasing squeaky toys sliding across the floor and her toe nails haven’t made a scratch yet. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by that.
This looks awesome, congrats! One question for you, did you have to remove all appliances like washer/dryer, dishwasher, stove and fridge? Or did you play around them? I’m just so scared to have to have to remove them and mess all the wires and what not... Thanks ;) Celine
Hi Shara, great video. How does the floor hold up over time? I am in the process of installing same exact brand in fresh oak type. I am loving the look of it as it looks as real wood and looks like it is extremely durable. I have a 80lbs goldendoodle who has a lot of energy and scratched our hardwood engineered floor so bad. I am hoping this will do much better with preventing the scratches. Does it work well for your doggo? Are you satisfied with it and the quality? Any issues? Thanks in advance!
Hi! We love ours. It’s been down now for almost a year and a half and have been very satisfied with it. Our dog is closer to 60 lbs but she gives it heck and it’s held up great. She scratched the engineered floors at our old house pretty bad, too. This is muuuuch more durable to her nails. We’d not hesitate to install this again.
@@WoodshopDiaries Thanks for your reply. Great to hear that the product holds up well over time, especially with the dog. That gives me more confidence with continuing my project. Thank you :)
Can you please advise ? Do we need to remove spacer once installed whole floor ? What steps needs to take care while installing on bedrooms which has wood flooring ?
I looked and couldn't find anywhere this was said so I will... everything I've found online says to install wood flooring style floors perpendicular to the front door to give the house "length". Looks good anyway. Everybody's a critic, eh?
I’ve lived in five houses that I can think of off the top of my head that had the flooring installed parallel to the front door. It really depends on whether you want the house to feel longer this direction or that direction.
Not if it’s more important to you to have them going long ways down a hallway, or perpendicular from a back door. Or if the length of the room across from the front door is considerable shorter than the length of the other two walls... perpendicular from the front door is a dumb rule to just blindly follow.
Next time use the remaining vinyl plank boxes as weights for the first row, stack them on top of each other in order for the first row to remain within place while installing the second row...trust me I learned the hard way until a neighbor of mine gave me the hint on how the keep the first row in place, while installing my second row of vinyl planks.
i also removed all of my baseboards, and made sure to leave 1/4 in gap throughout the perimeter of the flooring, then afterward I reinstalled them without any quarter round which ended up giving the baseboards and flooring a much cleaner look....compliments continue to come about the installation of our flooring....in-conclusion I did also installed moisture barer underlayment underneath the new flooring, due to previous flooring having white mold throughout the entire previous flooring when we removed it, which in turn caused a lot allergy issue for both my wife and I, even though both flooring stated very clearly on the box that they came with an attached moisture underlayment...I did't wanted to take another chance again, we also sprayed the entire first floor concrete with mold remover and let it dry completely prior to installation of the new flooring....You and I used the sameeeee exact same tools and brand...luvvvv rigid
@john probst nooooooooo🤣😂🤣😂 you betrayed the family...you
never go against the Ridgid family... loyalty means everything to the milwaukee family including his ancestor Ridgid and Ryobi 🤣😂🤣😂
By using a underlayment under your Lifeproof flooring voided your lifetime warranty. Ah well.
@@SARDOG
I didn't purchase lifeproof brand
Probably should have said that in your original comment, eh? Had you said that then that would have negated my comment. Ah well... live and learn
Women must love this style and color because my wife just had me install this color in our home. 💁
Ha easy to clean and looks nice. Not sure what there is not to like about it, really 😅😂😅
Great job. Got the same flooring; Loved the Sterling Oak but decided on Chiffon lace for my kitchen. Found this video helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Guy at home depot sold us on the lifeproof stuff as well, he did contracting and was being very honest comparing to other brands - superior in every way and doesnt require the underlayment and really does not show wear so we opted for it - brilliant cost saver right there. Will be doing ours this week and your vid helped making sure we didnt miss anything :)
Glad it was helpful! We love ours! Our dog runs around like a crazy person on it and it’s not got a scratch yet 👍
I also have a lot of warm wood tones in my condo and have been looking more at the warmer vinyl planks. Never thought about going with gray. Thank you!
I personally really liked it in our finished space. It felt like it contrasted all the wood tones instead of blending in or clashing.
I would suggest having a spare box or two just in case that specific product is decomissioned, you wont have any problem with repairs.
What a cozy little home. I love it!
Thank you!
You were very encouraging after watching you I am motivated to start doing my own happy home improvement ,thank you.
Shara I love your projects and your presentation. Simple and straight forward, great work on all your videos. Get ready I'm sure your channel will explode in 2020. Not explode but you know what I mean.
Bobby Sharp's Made by Hand Shop haha I know what you mean 😂 thank you I appreciate that! I’ve been working really hard on it this year and hoping it eventually pays off 👍
You’ve inspired me...I have this same project coming up!!!
Awesome! Enjoy your new floor!
This inspired me and makes me want the sterling oak
Awesome! We still love ours!
Vinyl floating floors are great. They are simple to install and very durable. We will be replacing our mismatched hard woods within the year and we’ll definitely be checking out the life proof brand. Thanks for the video.
Michael Schnoblen I’ve been impressed with them so far. The dog tries her best to ruin them but they’re holding up great 😂😅 thanks for watching!
Shara Woodshop Diaries lol, my dog’s nails have been known to scratch glass so I totally get it. My son also has the ability to perform destructive testing on everything. Looking forward to the next video!
Michael Schnoblen Lifeproof is great but LOL you should check out the new NuCore Performance flooring lol sounds perfect for you! Lol it is the toughest on scratching I’ve found yet!
You did a great job on this floor. It looks nice and really improves the look of your apartment.
Thank you!
Nice work Shara, the floor looks great! 😃👌🏻👍🏻👊🏻
Fred McIntyre thank you! Totally worth the effort!
I've seem this on my suggestions about 50 times and i though it said why we chase life I finally realized what it really said
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Like the Murray State shirt!! We live about 40 minutes away. Great informative video.
Small world! Go racers!!
One caution in regards to the installation; make sure the surface being covered, be it concrete or wood, is as flat as possible.
Installed this with a friend over an existing wood floor that we didn’t know wasn’t flat; it had subtle hills and valleys, like widespread swells on the ocean, that weren’t noticed until part way into the install.
Given the flexibility of the new flooring, it made trying to align and click the planks together more difficult.
We managed to finish the installation, but it took more than twice as long as comparative sized areas in her house.
But I recommend LifeProof, and plan to use it in my own house.
Same issues with my install. Also door jams are difficult on a remodel.
@@joawhite426, I didn’t have much trouble with those. Used a piece of scrap floor to line up an oscillating saw, and cut the bottom off the trim and/or jambs enough for the floor to slide under.
I learned something new today. I have never heard of a “garage apartment.“ I didn’t even know those existed.
It’s just a 30x50 with a wall in the middle. Half is living space and half is workshop
@@WoodshopDiaries WOW!!!!
I love that you used the primed quarter round molding, rather than removing the baseboards
SOO much easier haha. Plus hides any unevenness in the floor
@@WoodshopDiaries Definitely! Doing my floors this coming weekend, and I'm gonna use this same tactic! Thanks for the video, very helpful and informative 👍
Wow! Great job. Lovely finish. Thanks for sharing, very good. 😂🙏💕
I lived in California most of my life, but moved to Phoenix for a few years to be closer to my parents who retired there. My whole house was tile except the bedrooms which were carpeted. The carpet was always a challenge to keep up with two small dogs who were only semi-house trained, so I took out the carpet in my master bedroom and office which was the smallest bedroom, and replaced it with laminate myself which I loved, and only had one dog accident afterwards. I then moved back to a condo in San Diego which was completely upgraded with Life Proof laminate which looks great and is not as hard as the product I used in Arizona. My only complaint with Life Proof is that it has a softer more vinyl surface which scratches easier when you move furniture over it, and the surface itself is dull, but textured which makes it slightly harder to clean if your dog makes a #2 on it, and believe me my new floor is like a test bed for Life Proof. Overall it is a great product, and has more cushion give than most laminate products I have seen, but it has a softer surface which scratches easier.
Good Work!
Great Video, nicely done! I'm looking at the Lifeproof 8.6" x 72" Product. Alys Oak is the color, 8mm thick, and has a 22 mil wear layer. I do like the color of Sterling Oak, but it's only in available 48" Planks, and only has a 6 mil wear layer.
I didnt see the wear layer listed in the home depot product description. How did you find it? Thx! Im looking for a griege color and this looks good but not going to choose a 6mil
Love this flooring. When you got to the threshold what did you use to cover the 1/4 gap?
Sterling gray is where it's at. I just did 2 levels of my new house last month. And its waterproof put it in bathrooms also.
Being your home did you have wood subflooring? If so what kind of underlayment/padding did you use.
@@susanbyrd4802 I had wood subflooring. You don't need any underlayment its built in. Just lay it down.
@@nbrown565
Thank you
We installed the same brand and color throughout our New England home while we wait for lumber to go down ! Might take a year might take 5 who knows
We loved ours!
Door thresholds can be glued to the adjacent pieces to avoid using a cap also
your place is cool,the only thing that would make it better would be a loft bedroom. Love your projects,going to try the big ass cabinet build this summer.
Omg I just made a miscut and seeing it in this video was really nice, I don’t feel like such a dummy now
Haha crap happens! Don’t feel silly making mistakes...just laugh and learn from them😄
Great job!
So impessive taking it on like that, nice job! DId you use the ultra line? Debating between this and LL COrelux Ultra. uggh decisions.
Very nice job
Wow, you did an excellent job with this flooring. It looks gorgeous & you make it look so easy💕. Just wondering, how many boxes did you use for your space. Thank you...definitely a thumbs up👍👍!
Thank you! I don’t remember how many boxes we used, but you can check the product link on the description to see how many sq for a box covers to figure out how much you’d need for your space 👍
@@WoodshopDiaries Thanks for responding. I subbed👍
Did you put it under your fridge and range? Or did you leave your fridge and range directly on the concrete? I’m trying to figure out the best way to deal with heavy appliances and the floating floor.
We pulled the fridge and stove out (and the washer and dryer in the laundry area too) and installed underneath and then slid them back in place
Ok pro tip not so much with concert floor but with sub floor in your first row once it's down screw it in place for the rest of the floor make sure you do it as close to the edge so it will be covered up with the quarter round make sure at the end to remove those screws to allow for expansion.
Looks great. What are you nailing the quarter inch into the old or the floor that you had before?
The quarter round? I nailed it into the baseboard behind it
I did my living room with real wood and the rest vinyl... not easy but messy fun when using glue...lol. Awesome work.
Fred G I’ve installed real wood in my old house and that’s not so bad but I really didn’t want to deal with glue 🙈😅
Hahaha I don’t blame you. Totally understand...as I always do things the hard way.....don’t even ask me about my old house how I put the hardwood on....🥺🤯😅🤦🏻♂️ hey lets just start both sides at the same time...and meet at the middle...
Nice job. I would have removed and reinstalled the baseboards (not crazy about the quarter round look). Also, while click floors are really easy to install they can be a real pain if you ever need to replace a damaged board.
I agree about the quarter round. I’m not a fan either. But this is literally a slab 700 square ft temporary home so I just deal with it haha
Question please? Since you have had this flooring now for approx a year ( as it looks from the date you posted this video) are still pleased with it? Any problems with scratching? Would you do it all again. I will not be installing it myself, but looking at having LifeProof installed. Thank you in advance for feedback.
We still love it and it’s held up really well with our dog and heavy foot traffic. I’d definitely install this again.
Thank you I did! I goin going to try it. All I can do it mess up right!
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It's not as easy as it looks in the video it's a tidious job and kneeling a lot,she had all the power tools to make it easy.
Did you install the lvp floor under your big kitchen appliances or can the flooring be installed against the front of them??
We ran it underneath them
Did you have any dips and high spots on the concrete? I am doing my basement now and see some spots where there is a 1/4 inch dip. But mostly about half of that. If i put a 4 ft level on the floor i can slide a cardboard underneath in the middle. So now debating if i should ignore it and go ahead or use a floor self leveling mix which can be messy and time consuming. I became aware of the problem after i did almost half the room and noticed that when i bounce a tennis ball on the floor some places the ball does not come up and stays low. Then i realized it was where the level was off. I was using a similar LVP product with built in underlayment padding. May be after sometime with weight on it and walking on it the vinyl conforms to the contour better.
Our concrete was far from perfect. The instructions say to fill in low spots and remove high spots-just like with any flooring installs. But, we took our chances and installed it without doing anything to these spots. So far, we have no issues with the flooring itself separating or anything. But when you walk on these spots, it sounds somewhat hollow. Technically you are supposed to level it.
I did this in our laundry room and it was easy to do. But at Home RenoVision Jeff makes a good case for using underlayment from Global Floorings. I installed over a floor of old peel and stick vinyl tiles. I tried to remove them but they were so difficult to remove that I replaced the one tile I did remove and just put the new floor on top of that. I did this about two years ago and it has held up well and looks beautiful. I choose the Sterling Oak as well but Home Depot did have a nice selection of colors.
Hi Gene, I watched Jeff' video too. I bought the Lifeproof vinyl plank flooring to put throughout a condo. The only reason that I am considering underlayment is add more soundproofing. But the Lifeproof information says that the warranty is valid only if you use their underlayment product! How has the Global Flooring underlayment worked out for you? Any problems with it?? Thanks, Bella
@@bellagirlgirl8827 It looks great and I've haven't thought about it in two years. Totally maintenance free.
@@genefoster8936 Thanks!
How long did it take you to install the flooring not counting the quarter round trim work? We are wanting to install it in our house and I was wanting to estimate how much time it will take. I’m not sure if I want to do a whole house or hire it done.
It took a day plus a few hours. I started Friday afternoon after work and then worked most of Saturday and had it finished.
Did you have any issues with the interlock part breaking? I have worked with two other brands, and the interlock part of the planks were super easy to crack. I had to be very careful laying them because once that breaks, it’s impossible to get the planks to lock together. It was very frustrating.
I’ve seen some comments on this video that other people had issues (of course, with random comments, you never know if they were actually using the same stuff I was 🤷♀️) but personally I didn’t have issue with installing it. I was impressed with how easy it was to put together. And I’m never careful with anything haha.
Pretty cool apartment regardless. Nice job.
Has your dog scratched to floor? We have a 60 pound American Bulldog that gets the zoomies. We are not sure what kind of floor to get. She has destroyed our engineered hard wood that came with the house. Your floor looks great!
Our dog scratched the crap out of our engineered wood floor on our old house too. But so far, she hasn’t done any damage to this one. I’ve been genuinely surprised by how tough they’ve been against her doggie nails.
@@WoodshopDiaries Thank you for your reply! Awesome to hear.
I wonder why you didn't use sealant afterwards to protect and seal the joints
I always enjoy your videos!
Judy Kerkeslager thank so much for watching!
I know it says leave 1/4 space but no acclimation says it doesn't move like wood or at all they go in fast and look good though
Irvin Wittmeier that’s what I was thinking...the flooring doesn’t expand like wood, but the WALLS do. I know our walls expand and contract seasonally quite a bit because the gaps between cabinets and walls will vary by the time of the year. I’m sure it affects flooring the same way 👍
@@WoodshopDiaries i didn't really think of it that way you are right though
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i didnt leave a 1/4 space in my installation, If the walls expand the floor will slide under the sheet rock further in since there was space under it.
I think vinyl still shrinks and expands but does not get damaged.
Leaving the 1/4" gap is for the movement of everything else, the floor is stable, but no guarantee on the rest of the construction, 1/4" is safe a guideline
Joli travail bravo salut à bientôt Jeannot 🛠😉
Were there any dips in the concrete? Was it leveled before installing the floor? If there were dips, how has the floor performed over the dips? I have concrete floors also. Just wondering thanks.
Our concrete was definitely not perfect and we didn’t bother leveling it. We’ve had zero issues in the last year we’ve had it. It’s not separating or bubbling up. It’s just like the day we put it down (just with more dog hair because I need to vacuum 😂😂). Hope that helps. I would 100% use this stuff again for what it’s worth.
@@WoodshopDiaries Thank you. Looking to put these floors on concrete.
how long did it take you?
About a day and a half
Excited my floor will be installed tomorrow same color 🙋♀️
Yay! We love it!
Why the torn jeans? Did you pay for those? My jeans are torn cause I worked for the holes.
Congratulations 👍 I also work for my torn clothing.
What is the name of the paint you used on the walls? It blends very nice with the floor, great job 👍
SW Eider White 👍
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Great job!!! We're ordering the exact same flooring, it's at $3.19 per sqft right now, not sure if that's a sale price, do you remember how much you paid per sqft? Thanks
I don’t remember exactly but it was around $3 a square foot 👍
Was your floor completely level? I wanted to install laminate plank in our kitchen but I have a feeling when I remove the worn and chipped linoleum, it's not going to be level.
It was definitely not completely level. To be honest, the contractor who did the concrete did a pretty crummy job. We laid it anyway and there are a few spots in the floor where we notice it “gives” a little when you step on it because it wasn’t level, but we’ve not had any issues result from it. I love the floor and I’d definitely install it again. But if I did, I’d probably use some concrete leveling compound or simply install a foam type underlayment just to kind of “fill in” the uneven-ness.
@@WoodshopDiaries OMG, such a great idea with the foam underlayment! TY! love your channel BTW
Hey Shara... did you ever post a video of you guys building your garage studio apartment? I really like the layout. Would you be willing to share the overall dimensions of the building and what portion is dedicated to living space? My guess is 30 x 50 with half for living space. Thanks for your time and attention on my behalf... Matt
Hi! So I don’t have a video of the whole thing because we were in a major time crunch so I didn’t bother filming it. But I did enter the kitchen process in a renovation challenge (we won!!) so a lot of it is documented here:
www.woodshopdiaries.com/jeffrey-court-fall-renovation-challenge-2018-final-reveal-kitchen/
And here:
www.woodshopdiaries.com/from-the-ground-up-youre-building-a-what/
It’s a 30x50 with a porch on the front. I built the divider wall to split living and shop space at 28/22...28 for living and 22 for shop/garage.
Those turned out well, I’m getting ready to do the floors in my basement and wanted to try these but I’m nervous I not sure if I will be happy with them. Do they move up and down when you walk on them or do they feel solid?
They don’t “bounce” if that’s what you mean....unless your floor is uneven. If you lay it on uneven floor and there’s a void underneath, they can flex.
I'd love this without the quarter round look. Do you have advice for getting around this? I guess it would work if you removed existing trim and reinstalled lower after flooring but that's not worth the extra work...
Thanks for the detailed video!!
Yep, that’s my only suggestion. That or use an oscillating tool to trim the bottom edge off the trim so the floor slips underneath. Both would be equally painful and take a really long time.
Do you put quarter inch spacers on all the walls. I noticed you out it on the first row but not at the end?
I am assuming you’re leaving 1/4 space on all the walls and not just the starting wall
Yes 1/4” on all edges 👍
No underlayment?
no moisture barrier?
I used the same exact rigid oscillating saw, when cutting into the lower door frames and closet door frames as well, luvvvvvved it..matter fact i purchase more rigid cordless tools..which I'm really enjoying.
Awesome! I’m a huge fan of that little saw. I never used my old corded one but now that this one is cordless, I’ve found myself using an oscillating saw much more often for odds and ends. Glad you’re enjoying yours!
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Did you know that Ridgid and Ryobi are built by Milwaukee tools...so you know thier product are build very wellllll....that why I will continue to purchase other tool product from that manufacturer.
So how do you like the flooring now? Had it held up well? Dents, scratches?
Love it. I would 100% install this again. We’ve had zero issues and still no scratches after a year of my 50 lb dog chasing toys all over it. Honestly impressed.
Thanks for sharing looks great 👍
Thank you!
What size base boards did you go with floor looks great thank you.
Hi! Thank you! I used 1x6s for my baseboards 👍
@@WoodshopDiaries thank you much!
Nice job, looks really good. Just went out and bought the same ones as you after seeing this video. I am not handy in the least, but I am determined to try this and hopefully save some money by not paying someone to do it. My question is...Do I need to put the spacers around the whole perimeter of the floor, including up against the staircase leading up to the main floor? We are installing this in our basement.
The instructions that come with the flooring should tell you. From my understanding, you’re supposed to leave 1/4” gap between the perimeter and any stationary surface you butt up to (toe kicks on cabinets, vanities, any stationary objects). But always follow the instructions that come with the flooring.
Thanks Shara! Do you think these can be installed as an accent wall in a room? If so whats the best method to attach them?
I assume they COULD be installed on a wall but personally I wouldn’t do it. You’d be better off using something like Weaber wall boards for that.
@@WoodshopDiaries thanks :)
@@chrisanthony144 I've done this and it works really well. Just glue it on with tubes of silicone caulking.
Thanks for making this video! Something I've always wondered is how does the vinyl stay in place/not shift once it's installed? Once you remove the spacers from the edges, does that not give it room to slide/shift?
It snaps together so once it’s installed, it can move, yes, but since it’s all connected, it moves as one unit
why do you need to put spacing? I always wondered about that. Your floor came out great! how do you like the vinyl flooring? I can't decide if I want vinyl or laminate floors.
@@felicia5620 you need spacing for the changing of seasons. In the summer it gets warmer and humidity rises. It will expend every so slightly so you don't want it to end up bubbling. Vinyl is great! We put it in our house in Austin TX - I think we did about 700 sq feet in a weekend. I plan on putting down about the same amount in my basement in Omaha.
@@felicia5620 Not all vinyl is the same as the Lifeproof. Believe me I did my kitchen and liked it so well we pulled up all the carpet in the rest of the house and went with this . It has been a year now and still looks as good as day one. We had a water leak and Lifeproof lived up to its claims. I don't think there is a laminate that would have survived. Another plus is that it does provide a small amount of insulation against the cold floor in the winter. It is not like walking barefoot on bare cement.
No underfelt or so needed for noise control?
Must be noisy? Heard the dogs claws. Looks good though.
You can add it if you want but it’s not needed. You’d hear dog claws on wood floor or concrete, too. It’s no more noisy inside than it is when she walks on the shop floor outside (concrete).
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DO you have any issue so far bc you didnt use underlayment ?? any advise have been more than 2 year now
No issues so far. We’ve had it a little over a year and still love it 👍 we’d definitely install this again and so far, it’s held up great to our dog and daily use
Life proof flooring comes with a underlayment
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
at 7:57 ... what is the name of the nail gun you are using??
Thank you so much for sharing this great great video.
It’s a Ryobi 18 gauge AirStrike 👍
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I truly enjoyed this video. I am getting ready to lay down vinyl plank in a Class A RV I am refurbishing.
You did such a Beautiful job on those floors... and the video was GREAT.
Thank you so much for your help.
Just installed this and my biggest problem was the floor kept moving no matter how well I secured my spacer pieces. What a pain. Even 5 rows in with the weight of all the other flooring boxes on it, every time I tapped in a piece the whole floor shifted.
Thanks for sharing. I am looking to install vinyl planks. I am terrified that it will scratch under furniture and dogs paws. As well as swelling if it gets wet. How's it holding up?
It’s holding up great! We still love it. Our 50 lb dog runs around like crazy on it and it hasn’t shown any scratches
@@WoodshopDiaries thanks for the reply. Your awesome
Im going with a almost white color from life prood. Can’t wait to not feel like I live in garage!
Ooooh I bet that is going to look nice!!
Did you check your floors ph before you put the floors down i just had the worst experience with this floor in my whole house
No. We’ve had it around 8-9 months now and still love it
Why would someone check the ph of vinyl planks. And how would a normal person with normal tools even do that.
@@alexandergonzo683 thats what I said but if you look on the box it says that before installing if you have a problem like I did they will not replace your floor you will have to fight to try to get your money back
if you were to install this into an RV trailer, would you glue it down?
I’d imagine no, but you’d need to ask the manufacturer to be sure
On Homedepots site Under Q&A Several people mentioned that it scratches easily. Shara have you found that to be accurate?
My dog gives it heck running around. She’s a wild 60 lb dog. Not a scratch yet 👍
So you dont need any subfloor?
Hi, so pretty! How did you figure out what length to cut the pieces for the staggering? Thanks!
Hi! You just cut the last piece of the first row to fit, then use what’s left to start a new row, or just cut a piece in half or thirds, whatever. It doesn’t have to be exact, the seams just need to be 6” or more apart row to row.
@@WoodshopDiaries thank u so much!
Dumb question but did you move the refrigerator or cut the planks to fit around? Thanks
We moved the fridge and stove out and laid the flooring underneath then moved them back 👍
Shara Woodshop Diaries Great. thank you
looking to do this in our home soon, so great timing! Question, does your floor seem pretty flat? i know there are comments about uneven flooring issues when laying it. i havent seen the slab that ours will go on, it still has carpet, but im concerned with it being a little wavy. thanks for the video!
Keasbeysknight awesome! So the instructions said that the floor should be +/- 1/4” over a ten foot span. I didn’t measure, but I know our concrete is really unlevel. I’m definitely sure it’s beyond that range. So I was honestly concerned about this as well, but laid it anyway and it hasn’t given us any issues. They laid down fine and so far (it’s been a few weeks of running/walking/abusing it) and I haven’t seen any separation or bowing anywhere. And it doesn’t feel weird anywhere walking on it. We’ve almost always laid floor when the flatness was beyond the suggested range and so far no issues in the old house with other types of flooring or in the new house with this one.
How has it been holding up? We can’t decide to go with that or floating bamboo?
It’s been fine so far. Very pleased with it. Our dog runs around like crazy on it and no scratches yet
Hey! Do you think this flooring will last in a commercial unit that deals with cats and dogs?
Thanks!
That’s hard to say. But I will say that we’ve had it for almost two years and we have a WILD 60 lb dog that runs around like a maniac chasing squeaky toys sliding across the floor and her toe nails haven’t made a scratch yet. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by that.
Question could we drive a car on top of this floor? Considering it for my 2 car garage Thanks
This looks awesome, congrats! One question for you, did you have to remove all appliances like washer/dryer, dishwasher, stove and fridge? Or did you play around them? I’m just so scared to have to have to remove them and mess all the wires and what not... Thanks ;) Celine
Hi! Thank you! We did remove all appliances except the dishwasher to lay the flooring underneath them. It really wasn’t too bad of a job 👍
Hey. Great video. Did you lay this under the cabinets or just cut up to it ?
Thanks! We butted up to cabinets but went under appliances
Hi Shara, great video. How does the floor hold up over time? I am in the process of installing same exact brand in fresh oak type. I am loving the look of it as it looks as real wood and looks like it is extremely durable. I have a 80lbs goldendoodle who has a lot of energy and scratched our hardwood engineered floor so bad. I am hoping this will do much better with preventing the scratches. Does it work well for your doggo? Are you satisfied with it and the quality? Any issues? Thanks in advance!
Hi! We love ours. It’s been down now for almost a year and a half and have been very satisfied with it. Our dog is closer to 60 lbs but she gives it heck and it’s held up great. She scratched the engineered floors at our old house pretty bad, too. This is muuuuch more durable to her nails. We’d not hesitate to install this again.
@@WoodshopDiaries Thanks for your reply. Great to hear that the product holds up well over time, especially with the dog. That gives me more confidence with continuing my project. Thank you :)
Looks great. Did you have to level your concrete floor first?
We didn’t do anything to them. Just swept and vacuumed clean then laid the planks on top
all floating floors need to be level within the industry tolerance 3/8" over a 10' spread
Can I install the flooring throughout the kitchen before I install the cabinets?
It’s usually not recommended to place stationary objects (those secured to the wall or floor) on top of a floating floor.
Can you please advise ?
Do we need to remove spacer once installed whole floor ?
What steps needs to take care while installing on bedrooms which has wood flooring ?
Yes you remove the spacer after instal and you need to check the manufacturers instructions for how to install over various types of subfloor.
@@WoodshopDiaries Thank you.
Appreciated your quick response.
how thickness vinyl is? 6 / 12 or 22?
I looked and couldn't find anywhere this was said so I will... everything I've found online says to install wood flooring style floors perpendicular to the front door to give the house "length". Looks good anyway. Everybody's a critic, eh?
I’ve lived in five houses that I can think of off the top of my head that had the flooring installed parallel to the front door. It really depends on whether you want the house to feel longer this direction or that direction.
Perpendicular to the door is correct.
Not if it’s more important to you to have them going long ways down a hallway, or perpendicular from a back door. Or if the length of the room across from the front door is considerable shorter than the length of the other two walls... perpendicular from the front door is a dumb rule to just blindly follow.
How big is the garage (home sq ft). Really nice home
Thank you! Living space about 800 ish square ft
Hi guys. Can i install it for wood subfloor?
Is this waterproof? And is it better than the pergo brand?
I’ve not used the pergo brand so I can’t say. But it is waterproof
Great job! Lifeproof is great. Just don’t install it in a non-temperature controlled environment :D