The Ultimate GPU Buyers Guide: Super or Not in 2024?
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super:
Good: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER WINDFORCE OC 12G Graphics Card, 3x WINDFORCE Fans, 12GB 192-bit GDDR6X, GV-N407SWF3OC-12GD Video Card - robeytechdeals.co/49fbqXy - $599.99 - Newegg
Better: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RTX 4070 SUPER 12G GAMING X SLIM - robeytechdeals.co/490EOkD - $649.99 - Newegg
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super:
Good: ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Trinity Black Edition DLSS 3 16GB GDDR6X 256-bit 21 Gbps PCIE 4.0 Gaming Graphics Card, IceStorm 2.0 Advanced Cooling, SPECTRA RGB Lighting, ZT-D40730D-10P - robeytechdeals.co/3SslhCQ - $799.99 - Newegg
Better: PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB Overclocked Triple Fan DLSS 3 VCG4070TS16TFXXPB1-O - robeytechdeals.co/4bjA6A5 - $849.99 - Newegg
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super:
Good: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER WINDFORCE V2 16G Graphics Card, 3x WINDFORCE Fans, 16GB 256-bit GDDR6X, GV-N408SWF3V2-16GD Video Card - robeytechdeals.co/3SIHgGT - $999.99 - Newegg
Better: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER GAMING OC 16G Graphics Card, 3x WINDFORCE Fans, 16GB 256-bit GDDR6X, GV-N408SGAMING OC-16GD Video Card - robeytechdeals.co/49lWdUI - $1049.99 - Newegg
AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT:
Good: ASRock Challenger Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card RX7800XT CL 16GO - robeytechdeals.co/3O5d5am - $509.99
Better: XFX SPEEDSTER MERC319 Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card RX-78TMERCB9 - robeytechdeals.co/3Sk30st - $539.99
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT:
Good: ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RX7900XT PG 20GO - robeytechdeals.co/4838hJq - $729.99 - Newegg
Better: XFX SPEEDSTER MERC310 Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 Video Card RX-79TMERCB9 - robeytechdeals.co/3utxFdD - $739.99 - Newegg
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX:
Good: MSI Gaming Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RX 7900 XTX GAMING TRIO CLASSIC 24G - robeytechdeals.co/4bkPnke - $949.99 - Newegg
Better: PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card RX7900XTX 24G-E/OC - robeytechdeals.co/3Up5Pd6 - $999.99 - Newegg
0:00 - Intro
2:30 - Introducing the New SUPERs
9:04 - Methodology
10:50 - 4070 SUPER/4070/7800 XT
12:35 - 4070 Ti SUPER/4070 Ti /7900 XT
14:05 - 4080 SUPER/4080 /7900 XTX
15:19 - Evaluating the Data
17:47- Which Card is Right for Who?
22:20 - Outro
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To Super or Not to Super? A 2024 GPU Buyers Guide
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![RTX 4080 SUPER Vs RX 7900 XTX [42 Game Benchmark | 1080p, 1440p & 4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MIMc1O7oaN4/mqdefault.jpg)
Bought a 7900xtx on sale back in November 2023, don't regret it all.
Got the Nitro in Dec and don't regret it either. RMA'd one for coil whine and the new one is really quiet. Went from a Vega 64 so it was a massive jump lol
@@N4CR5I bet! That is a massive jump.
They're on sale again right now! The MSI 7900xtx is down to 929.99!! Im sure the prices can only go down further from here
How much was it
@@memoDMZ like 929 if I remember correctly, dropped some reward points from the credit card and it was like 789 out of pocket for me ;)
what irks me more than anything is the fact that NVidia and AMD thinks 1000 dollars is a reasonable price for most consumers for a gpu
To be fair, those cards are meant for high end builds, not for the average consumers. Although they're expensive, I don't think people understand how much R&D goes into keeping up with modern gaming, which is constantly changing and improving.
The entire 4000 series is overpriced though. The sweetspot for the average consumer should be between 200 to 600, but for a high end card to be around 800 to 1000 makes sense considering their performance.
I think if game developers would do more optimization on the games we wouldn't have to upgrade to high dollar cards. I mean look at console games. Developers have to optimize those games to run on those low end consoles which are cheap pc.
@billywebb4365 if I recall correctly, it has something to do with the "CPU" and "GPU" of consoles are able to share resources unlike a pc cpu and gpu who do things independently. Apparently windows is trying to erase that division on PC but it's difficult
based on Steam data. The average consumers play at 1080p resolution. 1080p cards are $200, not $1000.
Top-tier cards like the XTX and 4080 aren't really targeted for most consumers anyway, but I get you. Was nice when the top end was around $600.
Damn, this dude really just put it all out there. I doubt Ill be buying due to the cost being way too much but really good way of putting all the data together.
Thanks!
Buy used, you could get a 3080 for a reasonable price
Not to be rude. Yeah, you could go used, but don't think its going to get cheaper new moving forward next gen bro. People skipping this gen for what you're saying without considering the fact that GPUs will still go up as time goes on. Maybe not significantly, but the data is there.
Very well explained - kudos! 😎
Does AMD use fewer checksums than Inte,l and if so, can this produce execution errors?
Is AMD more compatible with Linux than Intel?
If you want the best combination of raw action power and cinematic quality; is the best combination -
- an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU
or
- an Intel CPU with an AMD GPU?
This was so incredibly helpful. Thank you!!!
I just got a Gigabyte Eagle 4070 ti super, and I am very happy with it. Also it does 4k with dlss and frame gen on at 60+fps in most games and some games are around 100fps without any issues.
brother shud i buy the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or eagle oc one. I need a card which is compact and dual slot . rest msi and asus are expensive in india, they r priced in 4080 territory and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE. please suggest and tell me is there any difference between gigabyte model in terms of VRMs, mosfets and phase design . are eagle oc really inferior to gaming oc model?.
@@CaptainScorpio24gigabyte eagle îs a great implementation. I woul rather have that than inno3d or zotac pălit and pny. That being said it's a middle range config that gets You there with 3°C more.maybe but with a good case with airflow and a nice curve in gpu there will be Little to no difference.
Sorry you got scammed like that but good that you're fine with it I guess.
@@pR0ManiacS yess for me its always asus ,msi and gigabyte . .
asus has gone mad with its gpu size and proces...
msi doing the same as asus but only in supreme lineup . their ventus line is pathetic and gaming x just ok..but still ezoe expensive than the regular tuf .
gigabyte higher model are good even in tgeur bass variant like wi force .
probably i will go wd eagle or gaming oc (4 yr warranty )
their aorus lineup are built like strixbut prices like a tuf of gaming x.
@@CaptainScorpio24 i don't like msi on gpu that much. Even tho i had a msi armor 1060 6gb with no issues at all. Asus gives me a sensation of premium on gpus.
for the fortnite benchmarks did you play on performance mode(dx11) or just dx11 with low graphics or dx12 with low graphics?
he got his point wrong at fortnite nvidia works better with Performance mode and amd works with dx12 better
So this never gets talked about in these gpu comparisons, but what about golf simulators. I’m looking to build a pc primarily for that, but also some cod, and other shooters. Any thoughts?
I am building my first pc and I am stuck on which card should I go with Rtx 3090 or RTX 4070 ti super. Please share your thoughts.
brother shud i buy the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or eagle oc one. I need a card which is compact and dual slot . rest msi and asus are expensive in india, they r priced in 4080 territory and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE. please suggest and tell me is there any difference between gigabyte model in terms of VRMs, mosfets and phase design . are eagle oc really inferior to gaming oc model?.
I am slowly getting parts for a pc build so budget is very important and the 7800xt is looking pretty good especially since I play Fortnite, mw3, and assassin’s creed
It's the Best buy rn for future and current games . For qhd ultraqhd and 4k res. On native. I have IT and it's insane in the games i play rdr2 dota call of duty battlefield. No dlss no fsr lowest input lag îs always the Best
Having extra vram.memory helps not only in future but it puts less stress on vram and it will.simply give You better lows .
I was checking 4070 and 7800xt there are some games with 1080p where 4070 wins and 7800xt wins in 1440p and 4k. Just because of vram.
I am sorry you play those games. I hope things get better for you.
@@casedistorted bro make him a suggestion . Top 5 games You recommend go.
It also overclocks very well and has 16gb ram for longevity. If you are playing competitive games AMD is generally much better price wise and even gets better when you pair it with an AMD CPU.
i'm now in the process of buying a new gpu, great video man, really helpfull!
I got the XFX 7900XT a week or so ago from Newegg, for about $710, and it has been amazing at 1440p. Blows my old 3070Ti away in everything I play. Those GPUs cost the same despite being a generation apart and one clearly outperforming the other. It’s incredible. The Nvidia tax and crypto-mining craze of the COVID era drove prices through the roof.
Last time I owned AMD, an RX480 8GB was in my rig. Needless to say, they’ve come amazingly far since then. No worries or regrets with coming home to Team Red.
I currently run an RX480 8GB and the upgrade options are underwhelming... I want to enter the 2k 144hz era to enjoy some quality and smoothness, so I don't think I can go lower than 7900XT, but prices are still so high and for me at least it's not worth it at the moment.
Sad times for PC gamers that do not swim in cash.
Thats a damn good deal. Enjoy!
@@kayvak7267 Wait for next gen in a year or so for prices to drop on current stuff. Or look for an open box one, I've seen some at very good prices refurbed.
Thank you for the video. Can you please add 1% low FPS results for tests next time. It is not rally representative without it. Thank you.
For sure, thanks for the feedback
what about the release of AFMF for AMDs gpus??? could you possibly do a video about that( if you haven't already)i havent watched the entire vid yet abt half way so if i got messed up on anything it might be that.
This has got to be the best review i've seen on these cards without all the bla bla bla about prices. Just the numbers.
Thanks!
Agreed.
I love that you don't shill on Nvidia just because its "COOL" to AMD fanboys. Just straight up data without any prejudice.
People who do that know nothing about PCs and should never be listened
I have been running the xtx for awhile now and very happy with it
im looking for something less powerful now for an itx build maybe 7800 xt
Thank you so much for linking the data. You're one of the only people that do this. Also, your graphs/charts are super clear and easy to read, unlike others. Keep up the great work. Great video!
You are very welcome!
You meant Gamers Nexus and his I gotta explain my chart for you to understand it videos.
something for fellow creators would be nice, specifically individual creators looking for a lane in the airwawves before joining the bigger team with bigger projects.. The whole GPU cost as much as the rest of the PC, and we also have to consider future storage situation along with power consumption.
I'm about to buy msi 4090 slim.. im upgrading later this year
Still think I am going to wait. I have a 3080 FTW3 and just don't see anything worth plunking down 1K yet. Maybe next gen.
Got a 4070ti over a year ago and have been enjoying it ever since coming from a 2070. I don't buy mid gen refreshes so I can enjoy the new gen sooner rather than later. Buying mid gen refreshes just seems weird to me. Why wait for barley any performance increase? The 12g of vram you will all tell me how bad it is doesn't really apply to me and the games I play (mostly racing and flying sims in VR). By the time I need more vram I'll be buying the next gen cards anyway. I tend to upgrade whenever a new gen comes out (skipped the 30 series because of crypto driving the prices up) and sell or pass my card on to a family member while it's still worth something.
I need a new PC build for a qd-oled 4k 240hz monitor that will be released in EU in February. Do you think I should buy the 4090 + 7800X3D or wait for the 5090 + 9800X3D ?
The 5090 will be released in 2025 or 2026 don’t wait
5090 should release at the end of this year and lower models coming Q1 2025. But ye, who knows now.. @@Dopamine-.-
@@MI-wf1lw they just released the super. I think it’s impossible
The problem for me, every review only focus on Gaming chamber, while I am video creator such as with Premier and Davinci Resolve. Also curious about 3d rendering like unreal and blender? Also imaging app such as like Photoshop and vector processor like illustrator?
Great vid. No one size fits all. Ended up going 4070 super and getting more like 100 fps in cyberpunk 1440p with RT Ultra and path tracing. And I will never poo poo ray tracing again it’s incredible. I do leave on the frame gen stuff bc it is just better. I have trouble believing anyone could play cyberpunk like this with RT and not be a ray tracing convert.
Thanks Robey I'm thinking of Replacing my AMD Radeon RX6600XT/w an AMD Radeon RX7600XT
. 4070 super is closer in price to 7900xt than to 7800xt that starts at 480$ while 7900xt starts at 710$..
7800 xt is back to 500
Very tough decision as I play a variety of games as well as using my PC for work...I just ordered a Saphire 7900XTX but I may also order the 4080 Super to do my own comparison...upgrading from a EVGA 3080 FTW
Is the 4070Super really capable of ray tracing tho? I mean it seems like the GPU is producing Just a few FPS when rt are active... am i wrong?
Yes. With dlss and frame generation . Can do 4k 60 raytracing ultra
I'm going to be building a new PC but I am currently debating between the 7900xt and the 4070 ti super. I decided to put most of my budget into this rather than a CPU. However I was wondering if the AMD 7600 would be good enough for both those cards? I play only at 1440p btw.
If you can increase the budget a bit you can't go wrong with 7800X3D.
What's the price difference between the 7900xt and the 4070 ti super where you live, if the 7900xt can save you some money put that into a better CPU like a 7700 or 7800x3d (though do have a look at benchmarks on UA-cam with your chosen card and CPU to see what kind of performance you get before you buy). Good luck on your build.
They're basically the same price unless I buy a used 7900xt (Canadian prices)@@WIP03
im planning on building my first pc, targeting 1440phigh fps, i dont play demanding games atm, but if any good games come im willing to play them, therefore i cant decide between 4070tis and 4080s, as when i build this pc i aim for it to last 2-3 generations minimum
Get a 7900 XTX Nitro, they run faster than most xtx that are benchmarked and it basically wipes out any games where the 4080s win, giving the overall faster card and with more future proof VRAM. I've had two and both hit 3GHz+ without even OC or UV (stock), also super quiet and well cooled.
Sapphire?
whats the best gpu for 360+ fps on HALO INFINITE
Did i miss the 1% lows? It's a very important factor for smooth high end gaming
Yoo it's Robeytech ! \o/
there might be a new AMD (FPS speed lower than the XTX) lower prices, eta 3rd Quarter. May even be a new 5000 series by 4th Q
as of right now the 4800S is equal to the XTX in raster, better than with RT, but costs a bit more, and very hard to find in stock below 1k
You forgot the 2.1 display port on the xt and xtx which 4090 and 4080 (all) and lower has only 1.4a display port. If you get a super ultra wide like Samsung Neo G9 57”, has a refresh rate of 240hz but can only do 120hz with Nividia cards.
can I use a 4080 super with a 5900x ?
6950XT is what I have and it buries the needle on every game I play. I'll be waiting for quite a while before I look to upgrade.
cant figure out how to actually make this ROG strix oc 4090 work harder. I only play games so I guess I should have gotten a cheaper card.
Great review and good advice. It really helped me consider the games that I play, what is important to me in the games, and what else I do with my computer. I realllllly wanted to get and love the AMD cards because of the Adrenaline software and how easy it is to tweek settings. I've tried both cards and one of the things that I've not seen discussed in reviews regarding thermals is the additional heat cost of the AMD's. Even if the GPU temps were the same (which they are not in my system, AMD is about 10° F warmer [about 5.5 C° I believe] (which is huge!) the extra 50W to 100W power draw on the power supply will create heat from the power supply and other system components, thus the heat expelled from the computer goes up. This means that I either have to sweat it out in my room or crank up the AC, which is an added cost. Ultimately I chose Nvidia 4080 Super as I found with the games that I play, the FPS was pretty much the same (average) but the power draw, GPU heat, and heat expelled from my system was much more with AMD. At this time, the cost of both brands is about the same.
Yeah, I think ill wait. I have a 3070 Ti right now, and it just dont seem worth it with these cards and seeing how the main selling point of these cards is the "fram gen".
Man, I really really love AMD’s 7900xtx paired with 7800x3d I love those competitive titles and I love that raw performance. With Nvidia cards often times I feel tricked into higher price for less performance. I was about to buy a 4090 but still haven't made my mind up because I actually feel like spending that money on an oled monitor and carry on with 7900xtx
Coming from a 2080S. I bought a 7800XT for $420 tax out the door from auction. I have a 144hz 27" 1440P monitor and it runs everything no problem. No complaints.
Ty Robeytech😉
Such a difficult choice. Accept less VRAM from Nvidia or gamble with the AMD minefield of drivers and 110c hotspot issues. I've been stuck trying to decide for weeks. I could wait for the 50 series but I don't want to play at 30fps for a year on my 1070.
I just upgraded from my 1070ti and that thing still gave me over 240 fps in valorant.
The only amd card I would recommend is the sapphire nitro and asrock taichi
The problems you mentioned are only with the 7900xtx, no other AMD gpu has any of those problems.
Sir can suggest me for game dev(unity) nvidia gpu are 2x faster for 3d(for what i know)
Used rtx 3090/ti(good vram)(3d)
Used rx 7900xt or rx 7900xtx(vram)
New rtx 4070ti(can buy it but will push my budget)
New rtx 4070 s(vram limited)
New rx 7800xt(vram ok)(lags in unuty)
These are my assumptions from Internet can you guide a bit that be helpful😅
If you want it to last get the xtx, VRAM usually is the limit of a GPU lifetime. Especially with texture mods etc.
The 7800 XT isn't slower than the 3090, or the 4070 Super come to that in Unity.
@@N4CR5 Thanks for suggestion buddy ✌. I will look into my budget and try to get old 7900xtx
@@ObakuZenCenter Bro i don't know i saw a comparison chart where they ran few renders like redshift , octane , vray for lot of them amd was not even compatible
nvidia is widely available he is when we tweak things in unity like make prefab or code or move it uses cupu but when we play although it may be realtime it is till 3d rendering which requires more cuda cores but again it also requires more vram so
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to enjoy a 4K 240hz OLED monitor, should you really only go for a 4090?
Depends on what you play, cos some people may argue that 4070ti is fine if you expect to Max out the 240hz on eSports and older titles. If you can afford it you might as well go for the 4090 though.
Honestly this is how it shot be priced
4090 1200
4080 super 800
4070ti super 600
4070 super 400
Basically they are still one tier inflated
Yes
Why not include Baldur's Gate 3 in your testing?
The sad thing is cyberpunk I such a low fps game on modern graphics that's why I'm skipping this generation if you can buy the best graphics card and still not get 1440p 144hz on the best I'm just waiting for next gen so hopefully it will be do you think it would be worth using cloud gaming to get that fps upgrade someday or buy a new next gen graphics card
I sold my 5 month old 7900 XTX for this card, I'd rather have a nice quiet stable card , with almost the same performance and not deal with all the AMD issues that I had.. My Hellhound 7900 XTX had extremely loud coil whine, 110c hotspot, (they didn't accept RMA, as it was "normal"), 52c delta and the bad software that I couldn't use, as it would crash if I had ReLive active.. This was my 3rd AMD card and I will never get it again, all my Nvidia GPU's has been stable and I have never had issues, not even with the driver.
Well you bought a lower end model so it’s no surprise. The same goes if you were to buy like a msi Ventus or something
@@klubhead7070 Lmao, would never happen to nvidia if you bought the cheapest of the cheapest
Very fair assessment, yet in all fairness you must include the driver issues that are and have always been an issue with AMD. thread after thread on Reddit, AMD forums, UA-cam and many other outlets are dedicated to these driver problems.
12GB is the max for 4k that developers aim for. If they reach it, they know they are in trouble as they will be making a game that will not work on any consoles, which is the vast majority of all the money they will make.
This is why 12GB for 4k is the standard until a few years into the PS6 era. Sure, there may be a game or two that will exceed it. That means they either will have to release a game with worse textures on consoles or wait till the next gen of consoles.
I've been stuck between a 7900xtx and a 4080super for 1440p and occasional 4k gaming but I am primarily a single player gamer, Very rarely multiplayer. Seems like the 4080super is the go. Only problem is I am in Australia so we have a kangaroo tax on our GPU's. The 7900xtx is $1650 and the 4080super is $2000.
I would go the 70 to super than n and is better if it’s not rat or 3D editing
@@divin3-_-shotzz621 Sorry mate, go again?
@@LazyBrennan it’s autocorrect I would go for the 4070 ti super since ray tracing and etc is way better
Get the XTX and enjoy the high end life. Wait a few years for path tracing to be more common
@@Dexion845 false it’s a 4060 I believe n no y’all fanboys are crazy what do you get a of for competitive games more offer than that 95 percent im on console but i get stutters on pc so I’m get a pc everyone has or had a game they played a pc for
as an almost 40 year old dad who mainly plays cod, the 7800XT seems to make the most sense. The 4070 super doesn't seem to warrant the $100 price jump and 4k COD just feels wrong.
Getting a 4090 can’t wait for that sweet sweet 4k
Short story is they're all overpriced don't buy anything everything's off by about 300 bucks .... Wait until prices return to a reasonable amount
what would you recommend for star citizen?
Star Citizen seems to run better with more and faster RAM and is CPU limited at the moment. You'd likely get similar performance with either a 7800 XT or a 4070 Super, since the game isn't making full use of any recent generation GPU. It's not a good idea to buy any PC part for just one game, though perhaps Star Citizen is a decent enough base mark for what can run comfortably.
Overall however, the 7800 XT consistently either equals or out performs the 4070 Super in many games and has more VRAM. It also though does use quite a bit more power, some of the AMD drivers are really beta versions right now and if you like ray tracing, the 4070 Super does better. In the US the 4070 Super costs about $120 more than the 7800 XT, for effectively less performance but a couple of features that are not necessarily of much use to many.
7800X3D for CPU and anything mid to high end with 16 or more GB of VRAM for GPU because SC is a damn memory hog.
Pray to God.
Good point but I am gonna argue about ram :D ,like you said most game not need so much ram on optimized settings yes and is true but you not buy high end GPU spend so much money and not crank all on max :D
Going for the 4070 super 💯
I am into 4070 Ti SUPER but I don't really like the performence/price of the card :/ ... RX 7900 XT is a bit cheaper
The way I decided was the 3 Cards (7800XT, Geforce RTX 4070 Super and the 7900XT) you can get the 4070Ti but the super is only 5% -10% Faster the best bang for buck is the 4070 Super since that is 10% to 15% fast and sits right under the 4070 Ti so in my case yes I could of gotten the 7800XT or the 7900XT but went for the 4070 Super. You want the best bang for dollar and 4070TI super fell short and the only thing is the 4080 Super is 3% faster then the 4080 but $200 cheaper at least they were some are going for higher then $1,299.99?? but that what you get when they over charge. Good luck on whatever you pick.
@@mattstansbeary3068 LMAO! The best bang for the buck is in fact the 7900 XT, which in the US is now closer in price to the 4070 Super than the 7800 XT. It wipes the floor with the 4070 Super. The 7800 XT also is consistently either equal to, or faster than the 4070 Super, while being around $120 cheaper.
@@ObakuZenCenter 7900 xt is best price/performance, 7800 xt is a bit slower than 4070S
upgraded from a 2070 super to a 4070 super when they launched, couldn't be happier! Love Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 , but Fortnite and COD perform evenly fine on 1440 p
To bad AMD’s 7900xtx does not work well with VR atm. So Nvidia is the card to pick when you’re doing much VR. At least for now.
The only issue with VRAM is Nvidia being stingy with it. You can get 16 GB for less than $500 with AMD so clearly it isn't a cost reason but a greedy I want you to upgrade sooner cause I want more $$ decision. Just like the "Super" editions are oh hey we gave you a tier down GPU on all models with our naming scheme and it didn't trick people as well as we like so we'll give you the normal pricing now just about to scavenge some sales.
Glad to see someone who knows what's up and sees through Nvidia's bullshittery. However, sheep will continue to buy green anyway and complain later why GPU prices are so high 🙄
techtesters did the greatest videos of 4080 S review, since they had A LOT of games compared and not just 10 or so
It shows the same thing.
@@RobeytechLive it shows that 4080 S is better then 7900xtx, even without RT
Overpriced GPU to begin with then a re-release with minimal gains and price drop to gaslight the consumer into thinking that they are getting a great deal. Unfortunately we are in the era of the $1000 GPU and for that price you dont event get the elite spec.
Amd drop that 7900 xtx $150 id get it
Have 4070 and rx 6700xt. Waiting on 8000 series supposed to beat out 4080 for half the price.
You cant say that as that isn't out yet.
Both NVIDIA and AMD have outlandish claims before release
I got a 4080 Super and I play wow classic.... Hell yeah brother!!
Lol ok i will play GTA 6and do some VR
16 GB of VRAM is standard now and but 24 simply future proofs it. We have no idea how much they will want to use in future thus 7900 is better!
Ok so 500 dollars is considered mid range now? Man i guess my budget of 300 is like entry almost trash then 😅😅😅
You sound like a sports race commentator 😊
Umm, thanks?
I bought a 4070 super and couldn't be happier. I play everything in 1440p. But then let's not talk about the GPU I upgraded from😅
Upgraded from a 3070ti to a 4080s, the MSI expert one at that. Didnt do it for the performance so much but ill take the little jump. The price, even though i opted for an amazing looking AIB one, was still cheaper than buying a 4080 at msrp by ~150 but thats mainly because i paid expediated shipping. The price diff. between this and a 4090 at roughly 7-800 more for only doing 20-30 fps on average per game is terrible too, so glad i didnt buy one of those. So no buyers remorse here. 3070ti is being repurposed. Not every new gpu is going to be a good buy for everyone, but it will be, like me, for some.
AI is the future I choose NVIDIA although AMD has more power. These technologies will improve in the future and I won’t regret it hopefully. Also who can spend 1000$ for a card might just spare up a little bit more to get the NVIDIA one.
Wdym ai it doesn’t matter at all it’s useless n dlsr n etc is getting better
I dint see a price reduction on the 4080 super on the market. This guys speaks as he is payed by Nvidia!
What are you talking to about? The 4080 Super is the price Nvidia said it was, I never said it would be less. It’s less than a 4080… which is a slightly less powerful card and more expensive
I like my RX 6750 XT
That Starfield 7900 will be highly desirable in future. I'd almost consider investing in one for the long term, been at the hardware game for 2 decades lol.
Its so hard to get a 4080S right now.
Not in the US, or much of the EU. They haven't been selling well as they're so overpriced. Walk into your local Microcenter and many will have a shelf of them, or they're in the back, but either way they're in stock. The same with most bricks and mortar component stores, as anyone can confirm within a few minutes and google. On Amazon, they are also in stock and have been continuously since launch. In the EU, Mindfactory and other such outlets also have stock. Where is it you live that you can't buy one?
Just go AMD guys, you won't find the top end of Nvidia GPUs at MSRP and there obviously isn't enough stock available.
Nvidia should make GPUs based on orders.
They only made a few so they would be out of stock.
I got my 4080 Super Founders Edition 2 days ago at Best Buy for $999.
so explain why the consoles run most games at 120 and costs the same price as a medium priced gpu and every game is playable without spending close to 5k on a top tier pc seriously. who in the right mind would spend 1k for a gpu when in turn you can buy a console for more than half the cost and play pretty much every single AAA title. Unless your going pro which most of us are not than sure go all out and buy a thread ripper. Why is it every channel seems to be sugar coating Nvidia all the time.Why is every test done a top tier pc? These results are purely misleading as every consumer can not afford a top tier pc setup. Why not test these so called new gpu's on a low, medium and top tier pc from both companies.
Because consoles don’t run at the full potential. Each game is limited on the graphical settings for stability. Pcs allow you to run games at the maximum potential the game was built to be.
AMD no :-) you don't step in the same river twice"
Ehh I cant choose. The fact no one review the base 4080 supers like ventus, trinity, windorce and such is boring, everyone review only tuf or such. My gtx 1080 is broken so need another gpu that last me other 6 years like my 1080 did. 7900xtx nitro+ is 1060 euro here
4080 super the base one like zotac trinity or gigabyte windforce is 1050 euro. The nitro+ is a monster but is also power hungry which need to drop the power consumption to decent level 280-300w at most and not sure if is possible. The 4080 super is less power but could drop a bit there too. RT for me is good but dont justify the jump on it when I need yo enable dlss shit and nerf resolution from 4k to a FAKE 4K which is literally 1440p in disguise. Most of my games saved cyberpunk dont have RT and I like modding , which destroy the point of "no need more than x gb of vram", thats bullshit specially in modding graphic of games. My dream was aorus master 4080 super because love that gpu design but the price is unreasonable, out any logic, even because cant even find a shop having it and who have it is adking 1500 euro like. I love the nitro+ too but power consumption is scary. 4K native for me is more important than RT, tho if can use both together is good.
Want a good card and don’t want the cheapest but not the most expensive? Grab a 7900 XT.
Well the 4090 has no competition
7800xt loses to the 4070 super in fortnite
I wish you would just go straight to the point instead of rambling unnecessary words.
How can you say with a straight face that VRAM is not a problem ?. No, that's not true, it's not just an optmimization problem, better textures means more VRAM used, more resolution means more VRAM, more processes (FG, ...) means more VRAM.
We already have games that currently need 12GB of VRAM, right now, at 1440p. I'm not burning almost €700 (the cost of the RTX 4070 Super in Europe) for a GPU that a couple of years from now will force you to reduce textures, disable effects, ... to fit in its 12GB buffer.
The first GPU that I would even consider buying (RTX 4070Ti Super) costs almost €1000. Sorry nVidia, but no, you went too far in skimping on VRAM and bus width. I will wait another 6 months and see what the next generation will have to offer.
Because it's true. What developer in their right mind when developing a game would develop for harware that only 2% of the overall PC population has? Look at the Steam Hardware stats and tell me how any business development team would okay that. Where you see huge amount of vram issues is at Ultra Resolutions which is the least optimized part of a game. Now go play Hogwarts on a 4070, 4060ti, 3060 or lower at 1440p or 1080p and see if there is still an issue. Also how much of the shared RAM stack do you think game developers get to use on a Playstation 5 and Xbox for textures? Which is where 98% of games are developed first. It's an optimization issue that is fixed over time, and the only thing that EXCESSIVE VRAM gets you in games is the ability to run the super unoptimized version of the game on day one.
For Creators Go NVIDIA.
As much as i love amd they are very game oriented the vray, octane, unity, unreal engine etc where nvidia is 2x or 3x faster i play games but main job is game dev i want pc to be good at it.
For gamers, AMD GPU is not a bad option. But for AI users, stick to Nvidia.
Why does the benchmark games show This High of Numbers in games. 7900 XT, 4070 Ti are not intended for a 1080p experience, unfortunately bad review for me. No one has a 500Hz monitor .
These were all at 1440p
Long story short, the 4070 super the best value offerings from Nvidia. All this Nvidia talk is just a waste of time. The numbers tell all you need to know.
The 7800 XT is even better value now with price cuts to $480 in the US. The 4070 Super is, a result, closer to the 7900 XT in price and should also be compared to that card. As the 7800 XT equals or outperforms the 4070 Super in many contexts, the 7900 XT does even better and thrashes the 4070 Super in many situations, except for fairly useless ray tracing and DLSS. Those are 'features' that many just turn off, which are still immature and lack any real reason, or motivating factors to use consistently. Anyone buying purely on the basis of RT and DLSS, isn't making a good decision in some ways perhaps, though it is of course their decision to make. Also, you have a mic literally attached to your top. Why the yelling?
Thanks for the feedback we will check our volume
The AIB choices for amd are trash unfortunately. Pay a premium for the saphire nitro plus or have an ugly gpu with okay cooling unless you like the 2 color choices of the hellhound
honestly im thinking AMD.
Just buy a 3090 it's chipper!
I'm still running RTX 3080 Ti.
stop changing camera angles look at you audience
Ill never buy a Radeon. They run too hot
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