Except Fox has way better neutral tools than Wario. Gluto is the player that has to work harder here because he doesn't have a character with broken ground movement, usmash, and a nair that's basically a free approach button.
@@k.u.5798 warios air mobility and combos makes neutral even imo. His nair literally combos into 50%. Glutonny just needs to get one good nair and do the same combo every time or even throw waft in the end for 0 to death. Fox has is own advantages but wario definitely goes even or wins the mu
I like how Light shakes his head when Glutonny converted down air into the waft when his own character can convert into a up smash via down air AND via a weak hit nair.
My problem with Wario waft is that it's much like Cloud's Limit Break in that it's a game-changer and can end stocks much sooner or even be used as an emergency recovery but the issue is that he keeps it going into his next stock unlike Cloud who loses meter. If feel waft should also be reset upon stock loss and to balance this the waft timer can be cut down a bit rather than 2 minutes for full waft.
The half waft mechanic actually encourages players to use it and wait for full waft because it comes out faster and deals more knockback. While the full waft compensates the loss speed with some armor on the move.
It was disgusting and a perfect example of why Waft needs adjustments. It's a mechanic that allows players to suddenly win even if they were losing the entire game. Same with Arsene. Mechanics rewarding players for losing shouldn't exist in a competitive game.
@@DemonEyeHelix joker gaining arsene via hitting people would be even more busted then how it is currently. especially with the early percent combo potential he has. there are games i beat people so badly i never get arsene, now flip that scenario. give me arsene for just playing the game, and youll truly know what broken is. Also rebels guard is a commitment and you can die for it. gaining it via hitting you would just be super low risk.
@@Kaze91 Regardless of how Arsene's meter is filled, he lasts way too long. 30 Seconds - some time if Joker gets hit is ridiculous, especially considering hitting arsene Joker is trying to contest with dedede sized hitboxes that come out at sheik speed. Arsene is literally like if Cloud's Limit lasted 30 seconds and wasn't a one time use during that duration. Arsene should last 10-15 seconds max so at least camping it out is a viable option.
@@DemonEyeHelix he has alot of counter play already. Cloud doesnt lose limit by getting hit. It only last 30 seconds if you run from him. Some characters can deplete his gauge in 2 attacks. It does matter how its filled because hitting someone is something you do anyway. Taking damage at least is not beneficial for you in general besides arsene. Hes good but its not like peach pikachu snake and palu are any fairer.
Nah gluto just stopped uptilting after getting punished for it once and his edgeguards were really bad for someone at his level. Fox offstage should be free but he just wasnt going out there.
Light looked like he wanted to cry after every waft, can’t blame him lmao.
Light being depressed this whole set even after winning was so funny. Dude just not feeling Wario haha.
every waft just piss him i guess when you see his reactions on each of them
Nerf Wario
Tobi wario is only good because of waft
@@PreviousAccount528 Let's ignore that fox has 1000 different ways to combo into upsmash which kills at like, 100 with no recharge
Daniel Hernandez he really doesn’t. It’s just nair. Light is either fishing for up smash reads or a nair to up smash. Up smash doesn’t kill til 125%
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Lmaooo xD
Made my day xd
Red Lipz
*smh*
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LOVED how Light knocked Glutonny off his bike, such confidence.
Someone buy Light a tank top and he'll be unbeatable
No that will nerf him. He won't have any sleeves to pull up.
Taylor Helms buy him a long sleeve shirt. More sleeves= better
EE and Breezy are one of my favorite duo commentators! good job guys!
Playing a top level Wario is playing with 2 stocks to 3
not really because for take a stock with his waft wario need to start his combo so it's not really a entire stock
@@TSK-jh8ei what combo. Just up air then yeet
@@TSK-jh8ei You don't even need to lol. Just catch their shield once
Not really. Landing a waft is not guaranteed. People who complain just exaggerate to the point of almost treating Wario like he's guaranteed win.
Nathan Levesque up air to yeet
Man Light beat so many top players this tourney
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Light, winning over Charliedaking, Raito, Zackray, Kome, Lea, and Glutonny: *Mr. Worldwide!*
If he had won against maister though...
Don't forget Tea!
This is hilarious to watch. Light shaking his head every game.
9:47 that wasn't true but that was beautiful
Falling upair into waft is true
@@russell2880 yeah but the second Nair wasn't true at all
@@TSK-jh8ei o I commented b4 u edited, it was just falling upair into waft b4
@@russell2880 yeah my bad xD
Too many game 5, Kongo Saga was sick
9:46 is one of the sickest plays in tourney I’ve seen in a while on ultimate.
What sick play? Lmao
@@DiddyKingLP The combo Gluto did before waft. I know all you can see is the waft but you should open your eyes once in a while.
@@alexisr7812 literally basic combo, no drag down, no reads, just basic shit
I think it was a good combo
Although waft is kinda op
@@DiddyKingLP Ain’t nothing basic about that. Y’all just getting mad at waft lol
Light has no time for Wario’s bike
Lights meteor cancels were on point in this set
He said " HEELPP" I fuckin love TK 😂😂😂
Light levels up at 7:23.
Hahah the sleeve
This is a LEGENDARY matchup
light had to outplay glut so hard every game. waft is basically a free stock at this level.
Except Fox has way better neutral tools than Wario. Gluto is the player that has to work harder here because he doesn't have a character with broken ground movement, usmash, and a nair that's basically a free approach button.
cry more
@@plugwalk594 im not crying, light won anyway
@@k.u.5798 warios air mobility and combos makes neutral even imo. His nair literally combos into 50%. Glutonny just needs to get one good nair and do the same combo every time or even throw waft in the end for 0 to death. Fox has is own advantages but wario definitely goes even or wins the mu
wario’s neutral is very far from bad. he has tons of safe poke options
Is it difficult for a Fox to Up Smash Wario of his bike?
For most top 8s in season 2, either light or lui$ did so well.
Gluttony is crazy 🔥
love 2 see these two cuties scrapping it out
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9:49 mans was at 0%
I like how Light shakes his head when Glutonny converted down air into the waft when his own character can convert into a up smash via down air AND via a weak hit nair.
His upsmash doesnt kill at 60
@@tobi1557 No but does he have to wait 2 minutes before he can use his up smash?
Mr. Danners his up smash isn’t gonna 0 to death someone.
Bryce Martin thank people always trying to damage control wario
@@ASN_JAY Quite the contrary i feel people always try to damage control fox lol Light is obviously amazing but so is fox
“Glootny”
Wario is a cheese character and you can’t convince me otherwise
My problem with Wario waft is that it's much like Cloud's Limit Break in that it's a game-changer and can end stocks much sooner or even be used as an emergency recovery but the issue is that he keeps it going into his next stock unlike Cloud who loses meter. If feel waft should also be reset upon stock loss and to balance this the waft timer can be cut down a bit rather than 2 minutes for full waft.
That would incentivize stalling a lot.
The half waft mechanic actually encourages players to use it and wait for full waft because it comes out faster and deals more knockback. While the full waft compensates the loss speed with some armor on the move.
That game 3 finish was disgusting.
It was disgusting and a perfect example of why Waft needs adjustments. It's a mechanic that allows players to suddenly win even if they were losing the entire game. Same with Arsene. Mechanics rewarding players for losing shouldn't exist in a competitive game.
@@DemonEyeHelix joker gaining arsene via hitting people would be even more busted then how it is currently. especially with the early percent combo potential he has. there are games i beat people so badly i never get arsene, now flip that scenario. give me arsene for just playing the game, and youll truly know what broken is. Also rebels guard is a commitment and you can die for it. gaining it via hitting you would just be super low risk.
@@DemonEyeHelix waft doesn't technically reward a player for losing, I agree itd be better if it didn't exist but that combo wasn't even true lol
@@Kaze91 Regardless of how Arsene's meter is filled, he lasts way too long. 30 Seconds - some time if Joker gets hit is ridiculous, especially considering hitting arsene Joker is trying to contest with dedede sized hitboxes that come out at sheik speed. Arsene is literally like if Cloud's Limit lasted 30 seconds and wasn't a one time use during that duration. Arsene should last 10-15 seconds max so at least camping it out is a viable option.
@@DemonEyeHelix he has alot of counter play already. Cloud doesnt lose limit by getting hit. It only last 30 seconds if you run from him. Some characters can deplete his gauge in 2 attacks. It does matter how its filled because hitting someone is something you do anyway. Taking damage at least is not beneficial for you in general besides arsene. Hes good but its not like peach pikachu snake and palu are any fairer.
10 up smashes and 5 wafts later...
Nasty move 2ggaming, to put your next video link in the top left corner at the end of the vid. Im disappointed in you
this was a really bad set for these two. gluto got stolen but light frustration is also normal
Im so happy Light won. I dislike Wario and im sure Waluigi would have some lame ass mechanic like wario
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Wario as a character is so carried by his down B it’s insane. Literally it’s more or less a 2 vs 3 stock every match with that shit
Nah you gotta be good to hit it against decent players
Fox is too fast. Easy top 10 character in the game
agree idk how people doubt he is TOP tier
Ryng Tolu because light literally carries the character if you’re even slightly off with him you get absolutely crushed
Nah gluto just stopped uptilting after getting punished for it once and his edgeguards were really bad for someone at his level. Fox offstage should be free but he just wasnt going out there.
@@letsmakeit110 actually fox ledge trap is no joke so if you miss the timing on the edgeguard, you are in a very dangerous position.
@@letsmakeit110 glutonny played a little too scared his last stocks.