NATO's Front: Inside 🇵🇱 Poland’s Armored Infantry
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Mechanized Company
5:44 - Motorized Company
6:33 - Battalions
7:26 - Brigades
9:09 - Divisions
Primary Sources:
• "ĆWICZEBNE STRUKTURY ORGANIZACYJNE PODODDZIAŁÓW WOJSK LĄDOWYCH" by Grobelny & Tomasik (2017), General Tadeusz Land Forces Academy
• "ZMIANY ORGANIZACYJNO-ETATOWE W PODODDZIAŁACH WOJSK PANCERNYCH I ZMECHANIZOWANYCH" , Land Forces Command (~2013)
• Consultation with Polish servicemembers
News Sources:
• defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/1-d...
• www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/arti...
• defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/trz...
• / 1608450243950944257
• defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/bla...
9:13 - The insignias for the 12th and 16th Divisions are flipped. I actually went back and re-edited this to fix it last minute but being on no sleep I re-uploaded the wrong file lmao
The Wojak in the thumbnail: www.reddit.com/r/WojakTemplate/comments/sb40a3/my_polish_soldier_wojak_in_typical_wz_93_camo/
nice of you to give credit, thanks
Congratulation fellow NCDers we influenced another mil-youtuber
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3:40 GROT has shortbarreled version (10 inches) and this year will drop bullpup version with 16 inch barrel
Any hint on what’s coming next?
Polish infantryman here. I remember how our platoon leader have once said that he wishes all BMP-1's to be destroyed as soon as possible in case of a war, because infantrymen are safer and more effective on foot than in those thin, obsolete, driving coffins :D We were also told that there is only one grenade launcher in a mechanized platoon, namely the one in the support team, but I think it may vary indeed. There is really a big mess in our organization structure right now.
Wrong. There is no mess there, even soldiers don't know what's hidden. They just use some old equipment in bad condition for training.
@@tomekk.2620 So how are you supposed to operate all the super advanced weapons in wartime without any prior training? Lol
@@GeluTavi They have old and new already, u can train on both. I think they can train more often on older equipment due to lower costs, it's not a downside when your troops are training more.
@@tomekk.2620 Byłeś/jesteś w wojsku?
I refuse to believe that someone named "mogus drip" is in military.
Imagine if NATO is dragged into the Ukraine conflict directly and the zoomers are posting tik toks of them doing fortnite dances on the corpses of Russian soldiers.
We truly live in a society.
One note for 8:22 : artillery batalion is called in polish "Dywizjon". There is also polish word "Dywizja" which means "Division". So polish "Dywizjon" has nothing to do with english "Division". I know, its comlicated. ;) But there is a reason: Polish military keept traditional names for some specialised military units, so artillery batalion is caled "dywizjon", and company in a unit with cavalery traditions is called "szwadron" (like in Armoured Cavalery inits or Air Cavalery units).
Fair enough although etymologically speaking both dywizja and dywizjon come from the French "division"
@@BattleOrder You are right, both words come from French. I have tried to find some information, why Polish have those two similar words (for two different units), but to no result.
@@varoth It's similar in Russian, with дивизион for the artillery battalions and дивизия for the big divisions. Might have its origins for both in the Russian Empire during the late 1800s but I'm not sure
something similar happens also in Italy, where a "group" in infantry terms is basically one half of a platoon, but in artillery terms a "group" is intended as "battery group" so the equivalent of a batallion
@@DonPatrono France as well has used "group" to describe different kinds of battalions at different times
As former US military who’s worked very close with the Polish military for quite a few years, I’d rate their combat arms troops as very professional and competent, but they are self aware how under equipped they are and it bothers them greatly . Fitness and mindset was top notch.
Their engineers are some cooky dudes and absolutely jump at the chance to do ANYTHING, but they are weirdly forgotten in training and war games and their equipment very reflects that.
Their support troops are.. lacking. In spirit, fitness and hustle to work.
Overall, 7/10. I’d put them below the Lithuanians but on par with Germans and above most of the other former Soviet states.
so do us suport troops, who can't even drive a truck on a highway without some accident.
@@norbi1411 I FULLY admit there are some US support troops that suck, but accidents during large movements is going to happen. You’re dealing with things you can’t control, you can only respond to. Weather, civilians, road conditions.
@@UlookinMe I am not talking about large movements but functioning on daily basis. There's no week without one or two report about us army truck hiitng tree or power line pole. It feels like us army drives doesn't receive any training on how to drive a truck.
Finally engineers getting some recognition.
With every info about state of the vehicles and structures - while it's not perfect by any means. Just the fact how much of it is in working condition considering their budget and equipment's age and use means they have one hell of a job and somehow come on top
@@norbi1411 it’s because they really don’t. Like, at all.
You don't post that often, but when you do it is extremely well done and well researched. Also very informative and educational. And while I know Polish "Battle Order", I'm certain I will still learn something new or remember something I did know but forgot. New Subscriber I guess!
The mix of eastern,western and westernized equipment has always been my favourite aesthetic
That makes things difficult but I guess it's cool
@Dick Izzinya Now, wheres my bearskin cap...
That’s probably why i love Polish MiG-29s, Ukrainian Su-27s, and Romanian MiG-21s, they look so cool and are actually good at their jobs
@@bruderschweigen6889 yes it does but no equipment is even worse.
@@thiccchungo1041 i think Poland don't have any migs any more ;) all of them were probably partioned and send to ukraine
In Rosomak battalion recon is 3x Rosomak, not BRDM-2.
Trust this guy, he knows his shit
Nie spodziewałam się ciebie tutaj
Pozdrawiam i czekamy na Pana następny film. 🤚👍
i guess depends on the unit maybe?@@Borolek
@@wielkizuczek2081lol
8:17 Now, to make it clear, what Battle Order mentions about the SP Artillery Battalions, they are called "dywizjon" which translates to divizion in English, do not confuse with division(dywizja). The term divizion in Slavic-speaking countries is usually used to describe units in cavalry and artillery that are equivalent in size to the battalion (in the infantry) as well as a group of vessels. In the case of Poland, this term is also used for air force units, equivalent to a squadron.
But at the same time "szwadron" is company sized unit with cavalery traditions (armoured and air cavalery). Why are we comlicating things? :)
@@varoth also in our modern 25th air cav brigade infantry company is called squadron.
@@varoth Because "A niechaj narodowie wżdy postronni znają, iż polacy nie gęsi, iż swój język mają"
@@kamilszadkowski8864 It gets far worse when it gets to the historical terminology of the polish air force.
In the west, it was decided for the group of 12-16 planes to be called 'squadron' or 'Escadron' in french.The polish equivalent of 'squadro'n is 'szwadron'. Accept it saw only limited use, and the air force of the 2nd Rzeczypospolita (2nd republic- interwar poland) standardised on the our dear old friend 'dywizjon'. And just to be more confusing, the word 'eskadra' (ANOTHER polonised version of squadron) was used for subunits equivalent to half of the 'dywizjon' strenght.
On top of all that, after WWII, the air force of communist poland was structured after the Soviet ones. And soviets- in an affront to all that is holy, called their squadrons 'regiments' ('pułk' in polish).
And in modern poland units where restructured after NATO example, and renamed 'eskadra'.
Often overlooked and too often underappreciated, Poland is now the pointy tip of the spear. Great work illuminating their forces.
I would love a similar video about the territorial defense forces. They're a really interesting formation and not many people know about them.
Same
I've been wanting to learn about them after the Kyiv TDF managed to help hold the city out in the first says of the war
@@luminaaeterna1259 they didn't
@@norbi1411 Kyiv didn’t fall last I checked.
@@nobodyherepal3292 not thanks tdf which at that point in very early stage of being formed
@@norbi1411 the TDF of Kyiv was formed before the war, and was made up of mostly veterans of the Donbas conflicts, which is why they were so successful. Source: A few buddies from Kyiv.
OK. For clarification for those a bit confused. While "Dywizjon" sounds like "Division", it isn't the same as "Dywizja" that would be translated to "Division" in English. It's more like Battalion and/or regiment - depending on which part of armed forces we're talking about and in which period. Famously during Battle of Britain there was "303 Squadron" - in Polish "Dywizjon 303". Think of it as more mathematical word, than military - it's something that is just a "division" of larger unit, or more in English, just like some (sub)units are called "detachment", despite not being detachable in doctrine.
Yes, I'm confused as well, it's military it doesn't have to make sense in a normal way ;)
But I do remember that when Poles were deciphering Russian codes in Polish-Bolshevik War, they were looking for word "Diwizija" (Division in normal sense - big unit), since it had 3 "i" letters making it more susceptible to certain types of cryptographic attacks.
beautiful lesson
and let's not forget that Lenin of the Bolsheviks was unleashed upon the world by Germany and Switzerland.
@@2MinuteHockey Yes, though the idea of "World Revolution" was mostly championed by Trotsky during Polish-Bolshevik War. That came from books that Lenin "wrote" - which is funny story in of itself.
"303 Squadron" - in Polish "Dywizjon 303" - it was a squadron - in Polish "eskadra" but for some reason ( may be for the propaganda or hoping for upgrade) it was called a level up unit.
@@jannegrey593 very interring, please share what you know of Lenin's "writings"
@@2MinuteHockey to jest caly zbior, 24 tomy "Dziel Lenina". generalnie stek bzdur ale mozna zrozumiec mental tego zwyrodnialca
# 0:45 - Squad Types
# 2:10 - Mechanized Infantry Squad
# 4:24 - Mechanized Infantry Platoon
# 4:58 - Mechanized Infantry Company
# 5:47 - Motorized Infantry Squad
# 6:37 - Mechanized / Motorized Battalion
# 7:32 - Brigade - Level
# 8:13 - Maneuver Brigade
# 9:13 - Division - Overview
# 11:12 - Division - Level
Tnx for your informations.
this channel is my favorite
Same
Adding the personnel counts under the units is super helpful for those of us still trying to get unit sizes straight! Appreciate the extra context!
A lot of West- European armies are much less equipped at the moment. The Poles are not so naieve considering the current unstabile situation in Europe. When Poland's M1a2v3's and K2PL's are delivered, Poland has the strongest tank army in Europe.
To be precise second strongest in Europe, first would be US, it is the same funny thing with question: who has the strongest air force in the world, first US air force, second US navy
@@czaja995 US have more than 1000 tanks in Europe? And what about Greece?
18th division alone will have more tanks (Abrams) than whole Germany
@@rafamanko4142 Greece only has around 350 modern tanks, the other near thousand are obsolete
So basically artillery on the battalion level. Battalion has 12 close combat platoons and 8 self propelled guns.
Then on the brigade level you have 3 battalions and 24 more barrels. So that’s already 16 SPG’s for 12 platoons. And then you have division level artillery.
If you count MLRS too I think it will be almost 2 units in the back for every platoon on the front lines.
And if you look up the numbers, poland has roughly 800 self propelled guns/MLRS for 400-something mech/tank platoons.
And all of that, as well as drones, loitering munitions and recon is plugged into the Topaz CMS software developed by WB Group. It’s basically Uber but artillery.
So if they wanted too, they sould literally assign 2 artillery units for every platoon out there. So every single platoon would have a Topaz terminal and the platoon leader could summon an MLRS and/or gun salvo with one click and get it immediately.
Now that would be ineffective use of artillery, so they probably won’t do that. But it’s theroetically possible.
Now that’s what I call firepower.
Poland is slowly transitioning from its post Cold War equipment is interesting. Also they have stacked their armor formations in a way to minimize logistical problems. For example. Leopard tanks are closer to Germany. With the Korean and US tanks in the North and South. With mixed units in the center. It's not perfect but with the gradual replacement within budget makes sense.
Leopards are serviced and modernised in Poland. In Poznań if i recall corectly.
@@rafamanko4142 a ja slyszalem kilka miesiecy temu, ze Bumar jest wylaczony z gry na 2 lata bo wlasnie modernizuje NIEMIECKIE Leopardy a Cegielski w Poznaniu od 5 lat przygotowuje sie do produkcji K2....
@@TheRobson75 Zgadza się. Ale WZM w Poznaniu też zajmuje się Leopardami. Bumar w większości zajmuje się Leopardami 2PL, T-72M1R i serwisem pojazdów od nich
@@colerend4431 ale Bumar podobno modernizuje wozy z Niemiec - nie polskie! zreszta z K2 tez palcem po wodzie pisane, sa glosy o potrzebie budowy fabryki od nowa- ponoc istniejace nie nadaja sie do modernizacji....a budowa to cale lata a czolgi na jutro potrzebne ... i zeby nie bylo tak, ze koreance wyprodukuja wszystkie w chu... wersji!!!! przedstawili naszemu MON-owi projekt nowego K2PL - super swoja droga i nagle zaczelo sie krecenie nosem...zobaczymy
@@TheRobson75 Cegielskiego przebudowują pod K2. A Bumar to Bumar. Nie wiem czy im Niemcy dali Leopardy do roboty
Brilliant and detailed explanation of the Polish Army structure! I really like how well researched the videos are, and especially the fact that you freely admit when you’re not sure. The true mark of good quality research is the admission that you can’t always get all the information you’d like.
After suffering under the Germans and Soviets, nothing is left to chance.
8:12 Each brigade will also receive a dedicated MLRS battalion in the future.
11:14 Art regiment in PL structures only has 3 battalions (2 SPG, 1 MLRS) - additional 4th battalion will come as a part of becoming an art brigade.
What about the claims abt Ottokar-Brzoza regiments and so on?
Another masterpiece from my favorite military channel!
I find Poland to be interesting.
How about the Polish Helicopters and their Air Force?
Keep up the good work.
This channel is more about mechanised forces for the most part, I can't recall them having done any coverage of air forces at all
the helicopters are in dedicated units that are not part of the division
It is actually pleasant to hear that someone finds Poland interesting. But the airforce isn't the biggest and the strongest one, so there isn't actually much to cover, but everything that is the most interesting, like equipment is covered in Wikipedia pretty well from what i know
Poland buying 96 AH 64 Apache (Guardian)
For now air force and helicopters are a mess
Fantastic video quality, the effort going into this is evident.
Loved the graphics showing the vehicles and personnel by squad then having them lined up in the platoon and laid out for the company! Oh and the gun firing while describing the vehicle.
Yeah, that's really good way to show things he describes. Professional job, love to see it and waiting for more.
08:16 I think it is actually called „divizion” (battalion size artillery unit), which is different from „divizya” (actual division)
You are correct
Damn, I'm a Pole and tbh this was most condensed video about our mechanized forces I have seen in a while. Great job!
2:40 most mechanized units are already equiped with GROT M2. So are all Territorial Defence brigades.
The wz.96 Beryl rifle is still common but I would say 50% of all units already use the GROT. By the end of 2023 it will be probably 60%. Also UKM2000 is popular but we still use PKM.
Great video!
i saw that Poland sent some of their grot rifles to Ukraine i guess for test and evaluation under real combat conditions. this is the real rest of a weapon training conditions will never fire enough rounds or drag through enough mud to really test it officers like their troops and equipment shiny and bright for inspection.
@@rightside1911 20k carabines were sended
@@rightside1911 And as UKR soldiers says... Grot is perfect weapon. One of the best they recived. After years of testing Grot became reliable. Multifunctional. And... easy to use.
Fabryka Broni to set up grot production in the us when
@@lucaskowalski7947 really hoping Radom starts exporting semi-auto variants to USA for civilian sales..They did a good job with it and would love to have one
Another outstanding video!
Always informative, with the cherry on top being the choice of music. I couldn't think of a better track to go along with these unit breakdowns.
Name of the music?
@@ikhwannews2488
"Crime Scene Investigation" from the WARNO soundtrack. Here's the link:
ua-cam.com/video/QBNBTndlv5I/v-deo.html
M-72 is not for RPG-7 but RGP-76 Komar.
To replace RPG-7 we have Pirat/Moskit program (pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirat_(pocisk)).
There is also a MSBS sub-carbine, it's tests were finished successfully like a 2 months ago.
Komar does not exist
Awesome presentation style! The information is clearly visualized. Thank you!
As always this is so packed with info. I feel there's no second wasted in the video
somehwat
Your videos just get better and better with every upload, love your content!
Man, I thought that your editing looked great already but by now it's absolutely top tier
Wow, you put a lot of work into those videos. Respect!
Your videos are always so enjoyable to watch! I especially enjoyed the nr. of men mentioned. Also dont go too overboard with the graphics (like the cannon animations) - they are very nice but if they take a lot of time I'd rather not have them use up your time. Then again do whatever lol, I'm not your mom.
Cheers from Estonia!
To be honest making the cannons shoot took the least amount of time of any of it lol
So Poland is gonna go from about 36 armored/mech/mot batallions to 96, assuming they go with the full 6 div/4 brig/4 bat format
That's a massive increase in size
Well you gotta win third term in the office somehow.
Difficult to complete with our demographic problem.
one of the new divisions will probably be an airmobile division, containing existing units
To get enough soliders they would have to start 20 years in advance with government sanctioned "married at first sight".
And even with this no one wants to have big family with current housing market. Days of single income 3+ children families are gone.
140k non-white migrants a year that's their newest solution it seems.
It’s interesting seeing Polish adopt the more positive military elements from the Cold War. Their units by having both lots of Brigade and Division level artillery have a lot firepower than your average brigade or Division* Their units also remind me of early 20th century and cold era units, with the division being large units rather than smaller ones. Those Divisions by other countries standards are more like Demi Corps than Divisions. Also another useful holdover from the cold war is maintaining (as new policy) units of fours for combat, and keeping Tank units in nearly every brigade sized unit.
* In comparison the Americans are getting rid of Artillery on the Brigade level, making it a divisional asset, and here in Estonia, with the new Estonian-British NATO division, there is only artillery on the brigade level.
From what I know Polish Army has the largest artillery firepower among European NATO countries. And it's all connected to Topaz software by WB Group, wchich is essentially Uber but for artillery.
why are those positive compared to others?
uber is kind of a weird comparison but it is a battle management system connecting the FCSes to the fonet comms network, maps, and so on@@player400_official
In the Netherlands I saw that Polish troops are still very respected. Many people don’t know the Polish paratroopers participated and gave huge sacrifices in Operation Market Garden.
The Polish 1st independent paratroopers brigade, under command of General Sosabowski were dropped near Arnhem to relieve and reinforce the British paratroopers. The British suffered heavy losses, they were surrounded at Oosterbeek and losing ground in Arnhem.
However, the Polish brigade were dropped too late and Germans already reinforced the whole drop zone. The Germans nearly massacred half of the brigade, it was a true turkey shoot.
Despite all of this, General Sosabowski survived and led his remaining men to dig in south of the rhine near driel.
At night 2 British officers swam the rhine to ask general sosabowski for reinforcements the next morning. But even tho the General knew they would face heavy German resistance, he decided to cross his men that same night.
With small rubber boats they started crossing the river while the germans were shooting at them from elevated positions.
Boat after boat would sink and No matter how much losses they suffered, they kept going until the last rubber boat sank. It was a failed attempt.
A couple days later the British 30th corps tried the rhine crossing again yet failed again. This was the moment of realization for the Allies… The Operation was a failure and they retreated.
General Sosabowski earned the dutch version of the Medal of Honor (the Willems order) for his selfless heroism.
Fun fact: General Sosabowski despised Monty’s cockiness and the 2 often had heated discussions, where sosa would warn Monty that the paratroopers would be dropped too far from their targets and it would take away the “surprise effect”. Ofcourse stubborn Monty thought General Sosabowski was a “dumb pole” and didn’t listen to a word he had to say.
It turns out Sosabowski was absolutely right. I wonder how it would have been successful if General Sosabowski led the operation…
Wiemy że pamiętacie, szacunek dla was za to
And now the unpleasant fact: General Sosabowski after the 2nd World War did not return to communist Poland which was sold by Western Allies for Stalin. General Sosabowski was thanked for the fight for the Allies and finished in the UK at the dishwasher in the restaurant. He died in the UK. ua-cam.com/video/Af4ut8eGCe4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MarkFeltonProductions
Quality work. Thanks for video.
Hey man, have you considered making those same kind of videos, but for Air Force and Navy units? I don't know if this is a land warfare focused channel, but I'd love to see the same approach to the other branches.
Keep up the good work.
Great information. Thank you!
Great video! Thanks from PL!
Naród polski przeszedł w historii wiele trudności. Bardzo ich podziwiam za odwagę i męstwo. Miłość z Kanady.
Thanks for the information man. Very cool.
"Artillery Division" in eastern countries means more something like "Artillery Detachment". Division in the more usual sense would sound something like "Divizia" (not any language in particular), while "Divizion" means something closer to "Detachment"
god i love this new style of visualisation. thank you
Good stuff. Thanks.
great video, keep it up!
hey man, good vid 👌 I’m definitely keen to learn more about PLAGF orbat and ongoing U.S. Army restructuring.
Thanks mate, keep it up 👍
Dziękujemy za ten materiał! Pozdrowienia z Warszawy. Bóg, Honor i Ojczyzna!
POLSKA GUROM
@@spy_pl8800 Gurom i Dałnem ;)
Bóg honor ojczyzna
Buk, horror, włoszczyzna.
@@alexx_9955 Buch, ojcowizna, honorarium
Would you consider doing a video on the Danish Forces? I hear they have a dismounted infantry section that carries a .50 browning M2 on their back. I'm honestly very interested to know more about the thought process behind it.
Great work :) at 9:27 You swapped emblems of 12th with 16th div.
Good work mate, greetings from Poland, sub and cheers and love
3:20 oh man, hearing the 7th Coastal defense brigade made me really happy, my dad serves there and so will I
Another correction - older variant of the UKM-2000p is also equipped with picatinny rail for mounting optics.
You are doing a great job organizing open-source information, it would be much harder to figure out how the things are just surfing internet
Do more videos like this on the structure of other Countries infantry and armor forces. That's what people what to see
keep up the good work!
great stuff!
Battle Order is the best unit level military channel on UA-cam.
I was just watching an episode last night. Like damn I could really use another armored infantry structure breakdown right about now 😩
great video keep it up
Fantastic video as always, I particularly approve of the choice of the 'Crime Scene Investigation' track used in WARNO!
5:25 I like the graphic representation
한국에서 3차인도분 까지 선적되었다는 소식이 있습니다. 미친듯이 생산하고 있는 대한민국(새해연휴에도 특근했다는 뉴스 기사가 있었습니다)
K2, K9, 천무 다연장 1개중대 분량이 분실(?)되고... 그것들이 어떤 활약을 하는지 폴란드 친구들과 구경하고싶다.
Niech żyje Rzeczpospolita Polska !
@BattleOrder I would really like if you ended you vids with a bit of an analysis, in this one maybe of how their deployment would differ from other armored infantry. Otherwise I really appreciate your attention to details and overall quality of production
I like the additional of personell numbers
Video well made, but there are some mistakes/simplifications
Generally speaking whether the western 12th Mechanized (actually Motorized), 11th Armored and 16th Mechanized will have 4 brigades each 4 batalions is still debatable, for now we can say 18th Mechanized is gonna have 3 brigades each 4 batalions and maybe 4th brigade one day, and this new Legions Infantry (probably Mechanized, but we don't know) may have the same. The rest is probably too demanding demographically.
18th Mechanized is quite different than the rest, they are meant to be "American style". It's a heavy division that is either ready to take a hard hit or make a powerful manouver around Brześć. That's why there are M1A2s and they are meant to have a different, heavier IFV, probably AS-21 with polish turret. 18th mechanized is gonna have it's own squadron of 12 AH-64, where the rest will be supported by the centrally-commanded AH-64 squadrons.
16th mechanized will have the 180 Korean-made K2 tanks, but in 2025 we start the production of improved K2PLs and together with the Borsuk IFV they will set the standard for most of the country.
It's true thatmost of the brigade-level SPGs are stil 2S1s, but eventually they will all be replaced by AHS Krab/K9A1/K9PL. Also, in Poland there is a debate and basically a fight about AHS Kryl, a wheeled SPG capable to fit in C-130 Hercules, it has been ready for years but people are making problems, it was meant to be in wheeled brigades but I don't think it will be introduced judging by the number of Tracked SPGs that we bought. And thats a pity, cause I think it would be better to have it wheeled on the Division level to acompany MLRS, which are WR-40 Langustas (40 km) switching now to HIMARS and K249 (range potential up to 500 km). Divisions are also gonna have tank destroyer regiments with Brimstone on armored cars (I think its better to put them on IFV/APC undercarriage and put in the battalions next to the armored mortars (there will be a tracked version of them too)). And a big number of new units with suicide and recon drones etc will be created. And tactical-scale MALE drones will be in divisions too.
Some technicalities
Leopard 2A5 and 2PL will be eventually changed into K2PLs, or given to Ukraine long before that hahah.
Grom is being upgraded to Piorun and Piorun on the vehicles will be upgraded to Piorun-2/Grzmot, range 11km. There is the poprad system, and something similar is being constructed on the ifv/apc undercarriage, so Piorun-2s with 35mm guns on armored vehicles will be probably put within the brigades or batalions as mobile protection, and ofc simple VSHORAD with new 35mm guns on trucks and Poprad systems will be in normal brigade-level anti-air defence. Divisions will have CAMM-ER of 45km range (I think we need either put there also CAMM-MR 80-100km launchers or put a normal 20km CAMM to brigades, division CAMM-ER is at least 35km behind the frontline, probably more, it doesnt protect soldiers on the frontline). So you will probably have (COY)Piorun MANPADS < (BAT)Piorun-2/Grzmot + 35mm gun armored mobile protection VSHORAD < (BRIG)Piorun-2/Grzmot Poprad systems and separate 35mm on trucks systems
nice presentatio of the units and vehicules, better than previous video I think
Where are Piorun, Spike and a few other weapons used by polish armored infantry? Kind regards - S.
Thanks for the video. Pozdrawiam gorąco ❤
Very nice Video subed
It's interesting that Poland operates so many different types of MBTs. Abrams, K2PL, Leopard 2, etc. Gives them some flexibility and keeps potential enemies guessing, I suppose.
Was gonna say the same thing, having 4 MBT families (not even 4 types within those families) surely is a bitch on logistics
Nope. Its logistical nightmare.
@@ottermanuk by the time the poles recieve the K2 and abrams and mass numbers the pt91 and t-72m1/m1R will have all been donated to ukraine and the leopards will be slowly coming out of service again to give to ukraine, at least this is the polish government plan so more like 2 MBTs
@@ottermanuk T-72s and PT-91 are already or will be shipped to Ukraine anyway. So for now we only use Leopard's and have only 10 K2's that are currently used for testing and training. IDK when will the first M1A2 arrive
As far as I know, as a Pole, the Leopards were supposed to go to warehouses or to Ukraine. K2 (ultimately K2PL) is to be stationed in North-Eastern Poland, where the terrain is more swampy and there are more lakes. The Abrams(havier) are supposed to be near the capital and probably somewhere else.
Great video! Huge expansion I. Combat power for Poland
I was actually just wondering about this wild that it popped up on my feed
Can you do a few episodes of the Baltics? I think a underdeveloped army structure might be quite the interesting video. There obv have been new purchases and reforms, but i still wonder how they structure their units.
Well he would have to do Three videos for the three different Armies. Also due to our small populations and in turn small armies, the highest you can get with the standardized units is the battalion level. Maybe in a few years the brigade level for us Estonians as we are modeling the Second Brigade (Now being in the process of mechanization) after the First Brigade.
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Amazing detail as always, would there be a video coming on the German army ?
Also another thing to mention is that the Abrams tanks at least are supposed to be paired with a new heavy IFV on a Krab/K9 chassis while the K2s would be paired with Borsuks
(also at some point in the future the Rosomak is supposed to be replaced)
Excelent video has more information now, as a suggestion you could do something like the air assault battalions (russian, us, china) I've never seen channels that do that and yours would look great.
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Rifleman with grenade launcher is usualy using GSBO variant is much more common variant and less cumberson to the user. Also units that switch to use MSBS - they still use short beryls for crew members.
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Next up, Finnish Mechanized units from Squad to Brigade
Love the newer format.
Great video. I'd love to see a video showing the latest updates and future plans for the Polish Army as a whole. Lots of developments therefore lots of content to produce. I think your research is very detailed, an explanation is very thorough. Perhaps you could dramatization to draw in more viewers. For example highlighting how awesome and deadly a certain tank and how I could absolutely crush an is or how insufficient a BMP is and how it would get steamrolled in action.
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I squee when I see a new battle order video
The L with line across is pronounced like a 'W' while the 'W' Is pronounced like a 'V'.
Overall very nice video, but I am concerned about that 5 man fire teams. I heard our teams are 6 dismounts + 3 man crew (one is squad leader/vehicle commander, also dismounts, so 7 dismounts overall), BWP Borsuk is made that way, 3 man crew + 6 fire team, also what I heard Rosomak teams looks the same, in theory it is 3 crew + 8, but in reality its 3 + 6, because of limited space inside (the way 2 of the 8 seats are placed) and to maintain similar structures between mechanized and motorized formations. Though I must admit I haven't done any deep research. As a curiosity, I add the M120 / SMK120 (Samobieżny Moździerz Kołowy 120mm = Selfpropelled Wheeled Mortar 120mm) on Rosomak chassis, but there is also SMG120 (Samobieżny Moździerz Gąsienicowy 120mm = Selfpropelled Tracked Mortar 120mm) coming to the mechanized units in the future, as of now we have 2 options for chassis, Borsuk family chassis (more expensive variant) or more probable NLPG (Nowe Lekkie Podwozie Gąsienicowe = New Light Tracked Chassis), because it is cheaper and less complicated, although is shares some components with Borsuk.
Update: Orders for the new Borsuk vehicle are out by the polish mod. Plans have also announced for an even heavier, amphibious ifv based on the krab (k9) chassis.
At 9:41 you've missed badges of 12th and 16th Mechanized Divisions :)
As always a great video. Still waiting on you to cover the Indian armed forces
Extensive coverage!
I would like to see a video on South Korean Mechanized/armored units in the future since K2s and K9s have been successful in the region!
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I think that MSBS GROT for BMP crew gonna be replaced with the bullpup version when they start to mass produce it.
Very interesting. Would you mind doing a video covering the U. S. National Guard (primarily what kind of brigades it fields) and how they complement the Regular Army's units?