Glad to see someone clearly explain and understand the tall, skinny tires. I am a bog proponent of them. People put big fat 12.50 wide 33 or 35 inch tires on their little Jeep TJ's and wonder why the performance went to shit. They laughed when I put 30x9.50s on my XJ with a 3 inch lift until I beat them on every trail no matter the terrain. Just threw a set of 255/80R17 on my Ram 2500 and they are definitely nicer than the stock 265/70R17 that were worn out. The tall skinny tires cut through mud and snow MUCH better and they hold the roads better. Dont hydroplane as easy either. Great video man, good looking rig too. Subbed.
Yeah LoL the follow up would be " before I knew it ever peace of sheet metal was bashed in. I thought it was fun at the time. Until your home alone and friends are gone you can't open your driver door"
That is about the cleanest explanation of tires for overlanding that I have heard. Everyone else seems to think you need a quasi rock crawler to overland, when the reality is, my wife and I want something to get us into and out of the back country with out a lot of drama. Well done video, Thank you.
Thanks, it’s easy to get pulled into the big tire bug. The 78 series I’m building as my new overland rig now has a new set of these 235/8516 falken a on it because they work great and help make the overall vehicle economical. I put a set of 255/85 r 16 on it which you will see in one of my current videos but we’re removed for 235s after about a week. Stay tuned and watch our new build come together that is fully focused around overland travel not solely off-road
You took me down memory lane with this comment. I remember in early 2000 we had a blizzard of the ages, and my job tasked me with picking up co workers and taking them home. We had base Jeep Cherokees 4wd with pizza cutters. It went through 2 feet drifts like nothing. This guy makes so much sense.
Great review and great explanation. It's refreshing to hear functionality pushed ahead of vanity. In reality functionality will always become the next "cool" thing. If you're the vehicle that makes everything look easy on the trails you run, true off roaders will look to emulate your success. I was looking at the wildpeaks, now I'm going to subscribe.
I love the sound of wisdom when i hear it...it has a distinct sound compared to that wordly vain glory sound..in my 20's you couldnt tell me anything..if i wanted oversized tires on my mid size trucks i just did it even though it didnt make me happy..now im in my 40's and this man is saying the same things my friends told me years ago..when you know who you are ..you are perfectly at peace running skinnier tires..like he said you may not look the coolest..but take it from an old man its better to have peace in your heart knowing who you are..then to be an insecure man running 35's..👍
Now this is a real review, best video I’ve watched. Not two mention from someone that knows wth he is talking about. History and experience. And i use to be a BFGoodrich guy, so cant wait to put these on our Jeeps.
Megen Lien you will love the falken I run the same size on my Tacoma. I am testing the yokahoma geolander on the land cruiser right now but still am a falken guy. We will see what happens
Awesome review.So ironic I came across this video this evening. I bought my first 4x4 pickup 2016 f150. I need new tires and was gonna get a 2.5 leveling kit and put 285/75 18 Falken at3w Widowpeak . Went on Amazon had in cart and saw stock size 275/65 18 for $54 less per tire. I wanted to save money and also didn't want to lose a lot of mpg. Only off road wil be in snow and mud in winter because I hunt 2,3x per week. I decided to ask a Farmer I work with and he is the first one to say, heck with big wide tires. The more narrow the better. We have went through mud on the farm in a 2wd truck better than farm hands with big ole jacked up 4x4's and huge knobbys. We put AT tires usually stock on all our trucks. I had never heard this before. But trusted his advice and bought the stocksize Falkens. This video solidified I had made the right choice!
I’m running 235/85/16 on my 2015 TRD Tacoma and with never go back to wide tires. Way better performance with the pizza cutters and better mpg and well as better stopping and tracking because of the lessor rolling resistance.
This is an old video but it's one of the best pieces of advice to share. I'm running 235/80/17''s on my F250. Excellent traction in snow, truck handles perfectly on the highway. Far better performance than the 35/12.5/17's I ran previously
Exactly what I am doing: downgrading from 35” 315/70/17 Falken MT to 32” 235/80/17 (Yokohama x-AT). I am done with big tyres. This downgrade saves 150lb/75kg with 5 tyres of unsprung weight. The strain on your suspension is not to be underestimated. Availability of tyres in the countries I travel to, is another reason.
You're a smart guy. I can't figure out why more trucks use tires like these "pizza cutters" over their trendy-looking wide systems. You've got more grip, lighter weight, better range and better look. My 4Runner had the very same size and I loved them (before I sold the vehicle).
My driveway is basically a testing ground for all terrain tires. 2.5 miles of jagged rock, mud, ruts, and up to 15 percent grades. My suburban’s all wheel drive is a superstar, enabling my all seasons to do enough of the task year round to warrant keeping them on until they finally tapped out. Now, after much research, and capped off by your awesome review, I’m going with the Wildpeaks.
Great review. I’m setting up my 2016 f 150 xlt crew for daily drive and off road camping/ trailering plus winter driving here in Canada. And just installed that same tire last week at 275 /16 r18 116. I thought I was alone in subscribing “ to keeping it as stock as possible “ but I am wrong. Years driving and working In forestry taught me the importance of having easy access to spares, parts and sympathetic mechanics able to fix my vehicles. Thank you.
Back eons ago I had a 1994 Isuzu trooper, 3.2L V6, 5-speed manual trans, rear limit slip, running BFG 33x9.50x16's on it. Went to our local OHV area, and no joke I just put it in 4LO and stayed in 3rd & 4th gear most of the trail riding. Going up very steep loose gravel & dirt hillsides in 2nd gear I would just "tractor" right on up. No spinning. No drama. Just rode right up to the top like it was nothing. The other 5 vehicles in our group ALL had 33X12.50X15 or larger tires. ALL of them had issues going up the hills! (spinning out even with the 1 1st gen Pathfinder having front & rear lockers, he spun out 3 times before making it up the hill! lol I am a very long time die hard "pizza cutter" guy.
One thing to keep in mind is the P rated Wildpeaks have the better compound for winter driving and the LT rated AT3Ws have a little deeper tread and better wear, so if you do a ton of snow driving vs a lot of gravel and rocks that may dictate your size and rating choices as well.
I bought a 98 Pathfinder all stock, low miles 152k. I have seen how those Pathfinders could look with wide tires and lift kits. And in the end I decided to keep the original ride height, and stock rims, and went with a set of 235 75 15 Wildpeak AT3 tires.Glad I did, later on the trail I was out performing my buddies lifted jeep, and he was running 30s size tires. My Pathy might not look mean, but she does have the clean OE look, and is very capable and at half the cost of the mean look. I did put on a set of black rims, stock offset though, couldn't stand chrome wheels on a beige color SUV, plus they go well with the Wildpeak tires.
235/85/16 tire 255/85/16 tire 265/75/16 tire are my favorite for Toyota Tacoma’s. I totally agree with what you say. Skinny tire gives you more contact pressure & a much better quality ride. Great video!
Very informative video. On my new 2023 Tacoma Trd off road truck I might upgrade to Skinner 255/85R16 or the 265/75r16 tires. But the taller 235/85R16 tires sound interesting. I will mostly just be off roaring on forestry trails or trails like hurricane creek located off interstate 40 along the nc/TN border below hot springs. That trail crosses shallow streams in some places.
What's funny is you say 235/85r16 is so common (and it is) but I went into Costco out here BFE Oregon and they didn't have a single tire in that size and the woman working the said "wow thats a really rair tire size". I corrected her and told her it was the stock size on every Ford f250 made for about 30 years.
Hello buddy, listening to your video, honestly, I love your video. I got more valuable useable information, straight to the point compared to 99.99% of all other youtube video. Great job Believe it or not you describe and explained it perfectly the problem that we have in Canada during our Winter driving in the snow. I can so relate, when you talked about a narrow tire driving and getting bog down with wider tires. Here in Canada the Falkens Wildpeak 265/70/R17 Is what I run through the winter on my 2019 GMC Sierra 5.3 liter Elavation edition Great tire all year round. However, I only run the set of 4 during our harsh winter with a ton of snow and ice. Thanks man you explained it perfectly, John from Canada
I run an '85 Bronco XLT, and I've always preferred the 31x10.5/15LT's, but that is also the stock tyre size on those big Bronco's.... I know, everyone wants to sell me the 235's, but they don't have the sidewall strength of the 31x10.5's.. I do remember on my 71 F250 camper special, the previous owner put 265/16.5 tyres on it, and they could barely handle the trucks weight, let alone any load... So the first thing I did was grab an old set of Ford 16in split rims from behind the shop, cleaned and painted them to match the truck, and mounted a pair of 7.50x16 12ply tractions for the rear, and a pair of 7.50x16 hwy's for the front. Then that truck could handle a load.... I remember crossing the scale on my way to a car show at approx. 14000lbs, and the truck drove like a sedan...………… and never got stuck on the show field or in the snow...
Been a KO2 guy myself even on my Axial SCX10 Rc rock crawler. Just ordered the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W's and having them mounted tomorrow.. Can't wait to run them out here in Tahoe area on some of that granite rock and snow. Thank for sharing and keep up the videos coming!
Stumbled on this review AFTER I swapped out a worn-out set of BFG AT LT 245/75r16s for the same size Falken widepeak AT3ws. I was shocked at how quiet and smooth my ride is now. The BFGs rode like they were made of a solid chunk of rubber. The Falkens are fantastic. Snow is effortless. Off road and at the boat slip remains to be seen, but I think I've picked out a winner for sure.
@@sebastianromero420 I'm running a 2.5" lift no wheel spacers. They would be close to fitting at stock height, some trimming required though I would imagine. As for fuel mileage I think any benefit from the more narrow tire than stock is canceled out by being a little heavier. Not any worse than stock mpg though.
Great review.... I felt it was your average Joe review and i appreciate the honesty. I'm gonna buy the Falkens JUST because of this review. 275/60/r20 on a 2017 GMC Sierra with the All Terrain package.
David Hornsby you will love them falken doesn’t not give me anything but a good product that I can trust that I pay full price for. I’ll buy yet another set once these are done
Been watching and researching videos on narrower tires for my fj cruiser before. I currently run 285 70 17. I was looking at 255 80 17 but your video has me thinking. Thanks great video.
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 Have a friend that has the 285 Falken tire on his fj cruiser and loved them. He has been on expedition with his fj throught africa but not on the falken.
That's the exact tire and size I'm getting ready to put on my 2000 ram 1500. I'm coming from 33x12.50s. I put my stock wheels with wore out 245/75s back on and I was like wow my truck really has a lot of power again! I knew skinny tires were the way to go a few years ago when I had a set of 235/75r15 Toyo ATs laying around and I threw those on my truck in the winter. Now where I live there is a forest service road past my house that climbs from 1400 feet to almost 4000 feet in about 4 miles to a high mountain lake. They don't plow that road in the winter, all there is is 2 tracks from other people driving up there, if that. I can't make it up there with my 33x12.50s. even with chains I was hopping and digging so bad I figured I was going to break something. I put on those 235s and I drove right up there in the snow like I was just cruising on a Sunday drive. Made me a believer. Fat tires suck! Here's another thing to think about: ya know how guys put weights (sand bags, etc) in the bed of their pickup trucks? Ya know why they do that? To push the tires down threw rain, snow and slush so they don't hidroplane on the highway. Makes sense, right? Now take your stock f250 that came with 9.5" wide tires and put on 12.5" tires, commonly called "flotation tires" and what do you think happens? By increasing the width 30% you've decreased ground pressure 30%. Welcome to hydroplane city!
i run that skinny tyre size on my landcruiser ute makes perfect sense totally agree...gets better diesle encomy...in the past had wide 33inch tyres whitch made fuel useage bad and cut the vechiles performance wide tyres way more expensive to purchase ...out back aussie 4wd driver love toyota landcruisers own three of them over here
I run 245/75-16 Wildpeak AT3W's on my 04 Grand Cherokee, they work superb! I thought about the 235's however at 4200 lbs my WJ is no lightweight and I think I get good contact pressure with the 245's. I used to run 33x10.5's on my Suburban which were skinny for that huge thing, with Tru Tracs front and rear it went through snow like a Ski-Doo.
I have a 1988 Toyota single cab 4x4 and run a Falken tire that is just a little over stock for the dependability of the truck and access to the tires. You made several other good points as well. The tire companies are going to hate you for getting into their high-profit business.
In a lot of places they have a ordinance where anything past the wheel well they will give you a ticket for I also love the skinny Tire because the skinny Tire is a 10 ply 2 it will last longer 3 it will get around in the snow so much easier that's my opinion
I forgot to mention skinnier shorter Tire which you call the pizza cutter would probably increase your fuel economy also because less rolling resistance compared to the 315
I recently got a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon...will be keeping it mostly stock more into overlanding vs. rock-crawling), including its OEM 33" Wildpeak A/T3W tires. When they wear-out, will still stay with 33s. -- BR
I agree with you on 99% (that's a lot) of everything that you said. In addition that was a really good explanation for newbies. I ran 235/85/16's on my Tacoma and loved them. I now have an F250 and will probably put on some 285/75/18's (narrowish for their height) when I upgrade.
Hobby Prepper thanks for watching I loved the 235s just today I bought a set of falkens in a 285/75/16 to do a apple to apple comparison over the next year and document very much in detail the mike the kind of miles and performance in the same conditions I ran my 235s
They’re the best all terrain for the money 💴 hands down. Snow ❄️ driving, especially on hard pack is second to none. Track true on the highway 🛣 with minimal noise. TreAd wear is excellent too. Great review my friend!
I want to get a 255/85R16, maybe I should look into the 235/85R16 since it is really hard to find the 255’s in load range C all the 255’s are E and I’m trying to keep rolling mass as low as possible. Eventually I am going to get lightweight rims. My 2023 Tacoma TRD OR comes with 265/70R16.
i just put some at3 on my 2021 zr2. 255/80r17 definitely skinny and tall. i get tons of compliments for people on the street about how the truck looks. plus they are awesome for the wheeling i do. i also had a gen 2 touareg v6 base with 265/70r17 at3s. that thing was a serious contender offroad.
I am running 255/85r16 Falken Wildpeak at4 on my 3rd gen tacoma. 33" tire but still very narrow. Tall and skinny. C rated 6 ply and 3 ply sidewall. I skinnier taller tire will have more surface area on the contact patch than a wide tire when aired down.
@@270eman wonderful size I’ve moved up to that size in the last few years much more common since this video was made. My Land Cruiser troop carrier and my wife’s 5 th gen 4 runner run the 255/80 17 size. Land Cruiser in Toyo mt and 4 runner in falken r/t
Thank you and have a good day your channel is great I'll have to watch more of your channel I would also like to see you driving with those tires that you had mentioned in that video many a variety of terrain with it. Great video have a good week
I'm considering the mickey baja boss 255 85 17's for my cruiser. They are actually 34.5" tall but nice and skinny. They are 7lbs lighter than the 315's but I think I will still have to re gear to 4.56 or 4.88. 35's with stock gearing sucks.
I’ve always noticed that Dakar or Land Rover adventurer style races always had skinny tires but I never see it in the U.S. I understood the physics of it but couldn’t find anything confirming it until this video.
Ol'scurt as much as people love a big fat tire I have first had experience that a tire 10 inch wide or narrower works better of highway thanks for watching
I have a stock Toyota Tacoma I run 2 45 75 r 16. When I head the previous tires the hand cooks I know it's not the tire you talking about when the Hancock's for knew it was able to get through Big snow banks. I heard a lot about the tire you had mentioned I'm probly gonna get the same size and a set of those in a few weeks. Great information. I'm amazed at what those stuck to comas can take on dirt roads and other places. I live up in the northeast so we get a lot of snow a lot of slush
David Woodbury thanks for viewing and I have ran these tires in about every different surface you can find and I’m satisfied with them in every respect. I was contemplating going with the falken mt but I will put on another set just like them I’m that satisfied
I actually have set of brand new 4 33x12.5x15 Falken AT3W's in the back of my truck waiting to get mounted and balanced. Half the price of any BFG tires!
I ending up mounting these tires on a 2013 Jeep JK thanks to your review and a thread on Expedition Portal and I am also in love with these tires. They are performing amazingly on the trails but the biggest surprise for me was the smooth ride for an E tire and hardly any road noise. I’m running 38 psi for highway and 20 psi on trails. I live in an area where there are a lot of jeeps and all are lifted and running 37’s. I have no idea what they do when they get a flat because there’s no way they could lift those tires off the back.
I've been eyeballin' this exact 255/80-17 and the 255/85 (Mickey's Baja Boss A/T) for over a YEAR, now... trying to wrap my head around what I know in my heart is right... and what's right is the fact that this 80-seeries Wildpeak weighs within 2 lbs of a C-Load Range KO2, is $55 cheaper AND remains a stout E-Load Range tire. Win/win/win. Gonna wrap 'em around a set of five Method 705 in Titanium (color) 17 X 8.5 (max rec wheel width) +25mm and while almost 5/16" taller than the 0 offset 17 X 8.5 Motegi Trailite/285/70-17 that's on the truck now should not rub while approaching full steering lock in reverse... and the whole shebang should weigh just 10 lbs more per corner but with a far greater degree of capability, resistance to puncture, and have the 10-inch-wide tire look I've been looking forward to having on my truck. blah blah blah... Thanks JASON! for a great video, even five years on. You are the man. Happy Holidays to you.
Ah! I hear you say 235/85-16 in this tire - my bad! Anyway, your tire experience and current philosophy was the push I needed. I ordered the Wildpeak AT2W in 255/80-17 for my F150. Waiting on the wheels to be delivered and then it's off to the installer! Thanks again Jason.
If you dont re gear big tires are useless. The is a really good video out the takes print of contact patch comparisons of the 255 and 315 's. The skinnys out perform the 315's in every way.
I've decided on these tires for my ram 1500. My stock tire is 265 70 17 which is under 31 in tall. I'm going to go with the wild peakAT3 in 255 80 17. This will be less than 1/2" narrower than stock, while getting me a 33-in tall tire. I think it's going to be perfect
Lot of good points. I really wish the manufacturers would make more skinny/tall tires. I would love a 255 wide, C-load, 35" tire, but that is a unicorn.
Good discussion. I've too wondered about this. In the States it seems like most people run the tallest and widest tire possible. However when you look at a lot of international rigs from Land Cruisers to G-Wagons, Land Rovers, Patrols it seems a lot of the the overlanding vehicles run skinny tires. Camel Trophy, Expedition 7, and from what I've seen all the UN & military vehicles run skinny tires. I guess there are many ways to skin a cat and the best thing about it is that tires are easy to change out. Just have to see what works best for you type of driving.
Most of that comes down to cost, in Siberia and Antarctica they run wide and tall because they need to limit ground pressure to prevent sinking in the mud or deep snow, only reason I run wide is because my f250 with 235/85s would leave 2x 5+ inch deep holes in the grass just from being parked a few days.
I don’t disagree with your conclusions, but saying that narrower tires increase “contact pressure” isn’t true. At a given tire pressure (e.g. 20 PSI) the area of the contact patch will be practically identical regardless of the width of the tire; the shape of the contact patch will just be shaped differently (longer and narrower with the skinnier tire and vice versa with the wider tire). The pressure transferred to the ground will also be equal (20 PSI in the example I gave).
THANK'S FOR THE REVIEW... I HAVE FJ CRUISER... AND I USE 285/70 R17... KO2 NOW BUT CHANGE THIS SUMMER FOR THE FALKEN ... I LIKE THE KO2 BUT NOW IT IS OFF ... SO I M GONNA TRY THE FALKEN 👍
FAB QUIF you will love them, I run falken on my Tacoma and recently have switched my land cruiser to Yokohama I’ve regretted it the falken is a better tire for sure and will be going back on
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 thank for all the info 👍 I live in Québec we have a lot of snow and summer time a do fire road .. I cant t wait to try them 👍
Love pizza cutters. They cut through EVERYTHING!. Mud &sand aired down. Same matched truck with bigger tires and a more experienced driver got hung up where I took the same path and rolled through. Just look at the tires they used in WW2 and the tires that built and maintained forestry and fire roads. Look at expedition vehicles (non artic) back in the day. All pizza cutters. Check out 4xoverland and check out his video. He explains the physics of narrow tires. Hes an expedition filmographer going into Africa 100s if not 1000s of miles from any human being. Says alot... just my experience. And for the record I came up in offloading with 35x12.5 BFGs on my f100, K5 blazers one gas one diesel hard bodies, even had a Chevy Luv too 4cyl though. Now I have an 07 Tacoma TRD 4.0L V6 4 inch Dobinsons lift with SPC upper control arms and a shell I run 255/85 KO3s. My buddies put a goat bell on my truck and nick named it "the goat" not that it's the greatest of all time but itll go pert near anywhere I want to go. Thank you for making this video and passing the word about narrow and tall tires.
I’m now on the market for new all-terrain tires. I have been eyeing the BFG KO2 for a while now but I’m hearing some good reviews with these Falken Wildpeaks. It’s great to hear someone who previously ran the KO2’s like you. Aside from the price difference, why would you recommend these Falken tires over the BFG tires?
I always run 265/75s on all four corners and carry a 235/85 spare (also use 235/85 on my trailers and trailer spares). Have never once had an issue finding a tire, not even down south of the border. Also fixes the odo inaccuracy on my Tacoma’s and 4Runners perfectly with the +1 size haha.
The last couple years there has been more and more brands bring on this size and many more in the 17 inch variant. So it’s more promising and I do agree it’s the perfect size
Glad to see someone clearly explain and understand the tall, skinny tires. I am a bog proponent of them. People put big fat 12.50 wide 33 or 35 inch tires on their little Jeep TJ's and wonder why the performance went to shit. They laughed when I put 30x9.50s on my XJ with a 3 inch lift until I beat them on every trail no matter the terrain. Just threw a set of 255/80R17 on my Ram 2500 and they are definitely nicer than the stock 265/70R17 that were worn out. The tall skinny tires cut through mud and snow MUCH better and they hold the roads better. Dont hydroplane as easy either. Great video man, good looking rig too. Subbed.
Thanks
"it took me a long time to get away from 40 inch tires" sounds more like a rock crawlers anonymous meeting right about now lol
Kai lol no joke my name is Jason and I .......😂
Yeah LoL the follow up would be " before I knew it ever peace of sheet metal was bashed in. I thought it was fun at the time. Until your home alone and friends are gone you can't open your driver door"
😂😂😂😭
@@gregmach8230 HAHAHAHA!! 😂 Yes. Hi Greg. Hi Jason.
That is about the cleanest explanation of tires for overlanding that I have heard. Everyone else seems to think you need a quasi rock crawler to overland, when the reality is, my wife and I want something to get us into and out of the back country with out a lot of drama. Well done video, Thank you.
Thanks, it’s easy to get pulled into the big tire bug. The 78 series I’m building as my new overland rig now has a new set of these 235/8516 falken a on it because they work great and help make the overall vehicle economical. I put a set of 255/85 r 16 on it which you will see in one of my current videos but we’re removed for 235s after about a week. Stay tuned and watch our new build come together that is fully focused around overland travel not solely off-road
This reminds me of the old war jeeps they had skinny tires and went places that make some of what we go thru now look weak.....Nice video!!!
Kirk Kinnell thanks for watching
Those jeeps were small and light. A few strong guys could get it out of mud, unless it completely submerged.
Watched the Grandpa Willy's jeep club go over Black Bear with Narrow Tractor tires no problem. The original pizza cutters.
You took me down memory lane with this comment. I remember in early 2000 we had a blizzard of the ages, and my job tasked me with picking up co workers and taking them home. We had base Jeep Cherokees 4wd with pizza cutters. It went through 2 feet drifts like nothing. This guy makes so much sense.
@@sandywalker7272 Yeah it was basically an offroading golf cart. I put 255/85r16 on my tacoma. Tall and skinny
Listening to this in Australia, the Falken has be proved in Tasmania ... great video, thanks for the bio ...
I swear your like the 1st dude that has the most dirt truthful review thanks!!
firesupport thanks for watching
Great review and great explanation. It's refreshing to hear functionality pushed ahead of vanity. In reality functionality will always become the next "cool" thing. If you're the vehicle that makes everything look easy on the trails you run, true off roaders will look to emulate your success. I was looking at the wildpeaks, now I'm going to subscribe.
Great presentation, Jason - good on you for being able to change your mind after being so set...
I love the sound of wisdom when i hear it...it has a distinct sound compared to that wordly vain glory sound..in my 20's you couldnt tell me anything..if i wanted oversized tires on my mid size trucks i just did it even though it didnt make me happy..now im in my 40's and this man is saying the same things my friends told me years ago..when you know who you are ..you are perfectly at peace running skinnier tires..like he said you may not look the coolest..but take it from an old man its better to have peace in your heart knowing who you are..then to be an insecure man running 35's..👍
Tyrone Mosley truth, there is a place for 35s but more places for a tall skinny tire.
This good old boy knows what he is talking about. I tip my hat to you sir.
when anecdotes outweigh critical analysis, we are in for trouble.
Now this is a real review, best video I’ve watched. Not two mention from someone that knows wth he is talking about. History and experience. And i use to be a BFGoodrich guy, so cant wait to put these on our Jeeps.
Megen Lien you will love the falken I run the same size on my Tacoma. I am testing the yokahoma geolander on the land cruiser right now but still am a falken guy. We will see what happens
Awesome video. I'm running wildpeak at3w's also and now feel more confident. Love the narrow tire philosophy. Thnx!
Thanks for viewing
Running 255/80/17 wildpeaks. They look and sound great.
Awesome review.So ironic I came across this video this evening. I bought my first 4x4 pickup 2016 f150. I need new tires and was gonna get a 2.5 leveling kit and put 285/75 18 Falken at3w Widowpeak . Went on Amazon had in cart and saw stock size 275/65 18 for $54 less per tire. I wanted to save money and also didn't want to lose a lot of mpg. Only off road wil be in snow and mud in winter because I hunt 2,3x per week. I decided to ask a Farmer I work with and he is the first one to say, heck with big wide tires. The more narrow the better. We have went through mud on the farm in a 2wd truck better than farm hands with big ole jacked up 4x4's and huge knobbys. We put AT tires usually stock on all our trucks. I had never heard this before. But trusted his advice and bought the stocksize Falkens. This video solidified I had made the right choice!
I’m running 235/85/16 on my 2015 TRD Tacoma and with never go back to wide tires. Way better performance with the pizza cutters and better mpg and well as better stopping and tracking because of the lessor rolling resistance.
When a certified Toyota mechanic speaks, you listen.
I've been preaching this concept for years! The only time you need to go wide is if you're gonna go in sand. Everything else, get skinny!
Tommy TwoGun I have tested back and forth and skinny wins for shure
reklasproductions you will love the 255/85 in every way
I'm running 255/75r17s.....I'm in Florida and all we have is sand....you can air down 255s to be just as wide as 285s then go play in the sand
Our main 4x4 usage traveling Australia is sand. Up until this week we have had 225/95/r16. And they have been incredible!
I agree with this as well no doubt about this
This is an old video but it's one of the best pieces of advice to share. I'm running 235/80/17''s on my F250. Excellent traction in snow, truck handles perfectly on the highway. Far better performance than the 35/12.5/17's I ran previously
Thanks, I still firmly believe in narrow tires
Any difference when towing? Looking at going 235/80/16 on my 03 v8 4runner.
Great video. Love my 255/80/17 and it's becoming more common. I'm running the Toyo Open Country AT3 and happy so far. E load and around 51lbs each.
Are you running these on a 4runner?
Exactly what I am doing: downgrading from 35” 315/70/17 Falken MT to 32” 235/80/17 (Yokohama x-AT). I am done with big tyres. This downgrade saves 150lb/75kg with 5 tyres of unsprung weight. The strain on your suspension is not to be underestimated. Availability of tyres in the countries I travel to, is another reason.
You're a smart guy. I can't figure out why more trucks use tires like these "pizza cutters" over their trendy-looking wide systems. You've got more grip, lighter weight, better range and better look. My 4Runner had the very same size and I loved them (before I sold the vehicle).
Great advice delivered with the authority of experience. Thanks!
Great video and very informative. Thanks for making this
My driveway is basically a testing ground for all terrain tires. 2.5 miles of jagged rock, mud, ruts, and up to 15 percent grades. My suburban’s all wheel drive is a superstar, enabling my all seasons to do enough of the task year round to warrant keeping them on until they finally tapped out. Now, after much research, and capped off by your awesome review, I’m going with the Wildpeaks.
Excellent physics based explanation of why skinny tires rule!
I felt like it was more anecdotal than science based in some regards.
Excellent video! Great practical and sound advice advice clearly based on extensive first hand experience and reflective thought. Thank you Sir!
Your welcome… thanks for watching
Great review. I’m setting up my 2016 f 150 xlt crew for daily drive and off road camping/ trailering plus winter driving here in Canada. And just installed that same tire last week at 275 /16 r18 116. I thought I was alone in subscribing “ to keeping it as stock as possible “ but I am wrong. Years driving and working In forestry taught me the importance of having easy access to spares, parts and sympathetic mechanics able to fix my vehicles. Thank you.
how did the Wildpeaks do with a rough winter?
LT or P? Load range C or E?
Back eons ago I had a 1994 Isuzu trooper, 3.2L V6, 5-speed manual trans, rear limit slip, running BFG 33x9.50x16's on it. Went to our local OHV area, and no joke I just put it in 4LO and stayed in 3rd & 4th gear most of the trail riding. Going up very steep loose gravel & dirt hillsides in 2nd gear I would just "tractor" right on up. No spinning. No drama. Just rode right up to the top like it was nothing. The other 5 vehicles in our group ALL had 33X12.50X15 or larger tires. ALL of them had issues going up the hills! (spinning out even with the 1 1st gen Pathfinder having front & rear lockers, he spun out 3 times before making it up the hill! lol
I am a very long time die hard "pizza cutter" guy.
Im going to be putting some 265/70/16 Falken Wildpeak at3's on my stock height 2001 4Runner. So glad I found this video!
Montgomery Bojangles you will love them
stock tire is 265/75/16
265/75/16 would fit on 2001 Toyota Tacoma 4wd?
yep you talked me into the 255/85s.
I used to laugh at land rover guys running pizza cutters. Until they can go places that i cant. 265/75 and 255/85 cant go wrong
Just installed the 255 80R17 falken wildpeak AT3 on my FJ cruiser. They look great ride quite and are taller then the 285s they replaced.
jerry quintana wow I didn’t know they had that size I will be going to it for shure !!
Nice. Thinking of going to that tire size on my F150 instead of the usual 285 upgrade from a 265. How you liking it so far?
One thing to keep in mind is the P rated Wildpeaks have the better compound for winter driving and the LT rated AT3Ws have a little deeper tread and better wear, so if you do a ton of snow driving vs a lot of gravel and rocks that may dictate your size and rating choices as well.
P for city folk and LT for country folk.
I bought a 98 Pathfinder all stock, low miles 152k. I have seen how those Pathfinders could look with wide tires and lift kits. And in the end I decided to keep the original ride height, and stock rims, and went with a set of 235 75 15 Wildpeak AT3 tires.Glad I did, later on the trail I was out performing my buddies lifted jeep, and he was running 30s size tires. My Pathy might not look mean, but she does have the clean OE look, and is very capable and at half the cost of the mean look. I did put on a set of black rims, stock offset though, couldn't stand chrome wheels on a beige color SUV, plus they go well with the Wildpeak tires.
Sounds like a great adventure right to me enjoy!!
235/85/16 tire 255/85/16 tire 265/75/16 tire are my favorite for Toyota Tacoma’s. I totally agree with what you say. Skinny tire gives you more contact pressure & a much better quality ride. Great video!
265/75/16 would fit on my 2001 Tacoma 4wd?
Ruben Soto yes, I have these on my tacoma right now.
Pure WISDOM. Thank you!!
I just bought a Tundra and I'm thinking about getting these.
Very informative video. On my new 2023 Tacoma Trd off road truck I might upgrade to Skinner 255/85R16 or the 265/75r16 tires. But the taller 235/85R16 tires sound interesting. I will mostly just be off roaring on forestry trails or trails like hurricane creek located off interstate 40 along the nc/TN border below hot springs. That trail crosses shallow streams in some places.
What's funny is you say 235/85r16 is so common (and it is) but I went into Costco out here BFE Oregon and they didn't have a single tire in that size and the woman working the said "wow thats a really rair tire size". I corrected her and told her it was the stock size on every Ford f250 made for about 30 years.
orygun guns that really surprises me because they are everywhere in Missouri and Arkansas
Hello buddy, listening to your video, honestly, I love your video.
I got more valuable useable information, straight to the point compared to 99.99% of all other youtube video.
Great job
Believe it or not you describe and explained it perfectly the problem that we have in Canada during our Winter driving in the snow.
I can so relate, when you talked about a narrow tire driving and getting bog down with wider tires.
Here in Canada the Falkens Wildpeak 265/70/R17
Is what I run through the winter on my 2019 GMC Sierra 5.3 liter Elavation edition
Great tire all year round. However, I only run the set of 4 during our harsh winter with a ton of snow and ice.
Thanks man you explained it perfectly,
John from Canada
I run an '85 Bronco XLT, and I've always preferred the 31x10.5/15LT's, but that is also the stock tyre size on those big Bronco's.... I know, everyone wants to sell me the 235's, but they don't have the sidewall strength of the 31x10.5's.. I do remember on my 71 F250 camper special, the previous owner put 265/16.5 tyres on it, and they could barely handle the trucks weight, let alone any load... So the first thing I did was grab an old set of Ford 16in split rims from behind the shop, cleaned and painted them to match the truck, and mounted a pair of 7.50x16 12ply tractions for the rear, and a pair of 7.50x16 hwy's for the front. Then that truck could handle a load.... I remember crossing the scale on my way to a car show at approx. 14000lbs, and the truck drove like a sedan...………… and never got stuck on the show field or in the snow...
Been a KO2 guy myself even on my Axial SCX10 Rc rock crawler. Just ordered the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W's and having them mounted tomorrow.. Can't wait to run them out here in Tahoe area on some of that granite rock and snow. Thank for sharing and keep up the videos coming!
Stumbled on this review AFTER I swapped out a worn-out set of BFG AT LT 245/75r16s for the same size Falken widepeak AT3ws. I was shocked at how quiet and smooth my ride is now. The BFGs rode like they were made of a solid chunk of rubber. The Falkens are fantastic. Snow is effortless. Off road and at the boat slip remains to be seen, but I think I've picked out a winner for sure.
Just got a set of 5 255/80R17 for my sequoia. I love them! And had to educate most of my friends on why I wasn't going thicc.
Did you have to run a spacer lift or wheels spacers? Any improvement in fuel economy?
@@sebastianromero420 I'm running a 2.5" lift no wheel spacers. They would be close to fitting at stock height, some trimming required though I would imagine. As for fuel mileage I think any benefit from the more narrow tire than stock is canceled out by being a little heavier. Not any worse than stock mpg though.
@@jamesw219 I think with 1.25” spacers they should fit on a stock sequoia.
Great review....
I felt it was your average Joe review and i appreciate the honesty. I'm gonna buy the Falkens JUST because of this review. 275/60/r20 on a 2017 GMC Sierra with the All Terrain package.
David Hornsby you will love them falken doesn’t not give me anything but a good product that I can trust that I pay full price for. I’ll buy yet another set once these are done
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 there are just sooooo many to choose from and all of them say their the best AT tire...
I can say with certainty that the wild peak’s are an excellent tire. Very tough and well wearing! Great video! Great info!
Been watching and researching videos on narrower tires for my fj cruiser before. I currently run 285 70 17. I was looking at 255 80 17 but your video has me thinking. Thanks great video.
jerry quintana thanks for viewing I love that size I went to a 285 in the falken for test and have missed the 235 I will go back after test is done
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 Have a friend that has the 285 Falken tire on his fj cruiser and loved them. He has been on expedition with his fj throught africa but not on the falken.
jerry quintana I’m still running on the 285s right now it’s no doubt a great size but several things I like about the narrower ones
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 They have the tire in 255 80 R17 now I have been thinking about trying them out.
Ran a set of these Falken 235/75/R15 on my 94 XJ and rode like a Cadillac in the rain. Lasted almost 5 years daily driving. Got my $400 back.
Thanks for sharing your experience!🙏🏻
That's the exact tire and size I'm getting ready to put on my 2000 ram 1500. I'm coming from 33x12.50s.
I put my stock wheels with wore out 245/75s back on and I was like wow my truck really has a lot of power again! I knew skinny tires were the way to go a few years ago when I had a set of 235/75r15 Toyo ATs laying around and I threw those on my truck in the winter. Now where I live there is a forest service road past my house that climbs from 1400 feet to almost 4000 feet in about 4 miles to a high mountain lake. They don't plow that road in the winter, all there is is 2 tracks from other people driving up there, if that. I can't make it up there with my 33x12.50s. even with chains I was hopping and digging so bad I figured I was going to break something. I put on those 235s and I drove right up there in the snow like I was just cruising on a Sunday drive. Made me a believer. Fat tires suck!
Here's another thing to think about: ya know how guys put weights (sand bags, etc) in the bed of their pickup trucks? Ya know why they do that? To push the tires down threw rain, snow and slush so they don't hidroplane on the highway. Makes sense, right? Now take your stock f250 that came with 9.5" wide tires and put on 12.5" tires, commonly called "flotation tires" and what do you think happens? By increasing the width 30% you've decreased ground pressure 30%. Welcome to hydroplane city!
i run that skinny tyre size on my landcruiser ute makes perfect sense totally agree...gets better diesle encomy...in the past had wide 33inch tyres whitch made fuel useage bad and cut the vechiles performance wide tyres way more expensive to purchase ...out back aussie 4wd driver love toyota landcruisers own three of them over here
I run 245/75-16 Wildpeak AT3W's on my 04 Grand Cherokee, they work superb! I thought about the 235's however at 4200 lbs my WJ is no lightweight and I think I get good contact pressure with the 245's. I used to run 33x10.5's on my Suburban which were skinny for that huge thing, with Tru Tracs front and rear it went through snow like a Ski-Doo.
charlie dee my cruiser is about 6500 lbs loaded and I love them
Testify Brother! Bigger is better....is a falsity. I've never heard this subject explained so perfectly.
Hartman thanks
I have a 1988 Toyota single cab 4x4 and run a Falken tire that is just a little over stock for the dependability of the truck and access to the tires. You made several other good points as well. The tire companies are going to hate you for getting into their high-profit business.
Love the wildpeaks, have them on 2 of our trucks and falken rubitrek on our 3rd.
Robert Oakridge how do you like the rubitrek vs wildpeak
In a lot of places they have a ordinance where anything past the wheel well they will give you a ticket for I also love the skinny Tire because the skinny Tire is a 10 ply 2 it will last longer 3 it will get around in the snow so much easier that's my opinion
I forgot to mention skinnier shorter Tire which you call the pizza cutter would probably increase your fuel economy also because less rolling resistance compared to the 315
I recently got a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon...will be keeping it mostly stock more into overlanding vs. rock-crawling), including its OEM 33" Wildpeak A/T3W tires. When they wear-out, will still stay with 33s.
-- BR
Farm tractors here in SoCal use skinny tires to track in heavy thick mud after it rains.
I agree with you on 99% (that's a lot) of everything that you said. In addition that was a really good explanation for newbies. I ran 235/85/16's on my Tacoma and loved them. I now have an F250 and will probably put on some 285/75/18's (narrowish for their height) when I upgrade.
Hobby Prepper thanks for watching I loved the 235s just today I bought a set of falkens in a 285/75/16 to do a apple to apple comparison over the next year and document very much in detail the mike the kind of miles and performance in the same conditions I ran my 235s
They’re the best all terrain for the money 💴 hands down. Snow ❄️ driving, especially on hard pack is second to none. Track true on the highway 🛣 with minimal noise. TreAd wear is excellent too. Great review my friend!
I want to get a 255/85R16, maybe I should look into the 235/85R16 since it is really hard to find the 255’s in load range C all the 255’s are E and I’m trying to keep rolling mass as low as possible. Eventually I am going to get lightweight rims.
My 2023 Tacoma TRD OR comes with 265/70R16.
i just put some at3 on my 2021 zr2. 255/80r17 definitely skinny and tall. i get tons of compliments for people on the street about how the truck looks. plus they are awesome for the wheeling i do. i also had a gen 2 touareg v6 base with 265/70r17 at3s. that thing was a serious contender offroad.
I am running 255/85r16 Falken Wildpeak at4 on my 3rd gen tacoma. 33" tire but still very narrow. Tall and skinny. C rated 6 ply and 3 ply sidewall. I skinnier taller tire will have more surface area on the contact patch than a wide tire when aired down.
@@270eman wonderful size I’ve moved up to that size in the last few years much more common since this video was made. My Land Cruiser troop carrier and my wife’s 5 th gen 4 runner run the 255/80 17 size. Land Cruiser in Toyo mt and 4 runner in falken r/t
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 I like it. Works well
Thank you and have a good day your channel is great I'll have to watch more of your channel I would also like to see you driving with those tires that you had mentioned in that video many a variety of terrain with it. Great video have a good week
Rocky/gravel roads
Missouri too
Tears up tires
My 100 series came stock with 275/70r16, thinking of getting Wildpeak AT3W in 265/75r16 - slightly taller, slightly skinnier
Thanks. I learned a lot from your video. It all makes a lot of sense!
I'm considering the mickey baja boss 255 85 17's for my cruiser. They are actually 34.5" tall but nice and skinny. They are 7lbs lighter than the 315's but I think I will still have to re gear to 4.56 or 4.88. 35's with stock gearing sucks.
Yes I will agree a regear will still be necessary 4.56 if your not heavy 4:88 for a Heavy load or live in the mountains
I’ve always noticed that Dakar or Land Rover adventurer style races always had skinny tires but I never see it in the U.S. I understood the physics of it but couldn’t find anything confirming it until this video.
Ol'scurt as much as people love a big fat tire I have first had experience that a tire 10 inch wide or narrower works better of highway thanks for watching
Did you remove your lift and go back to stock suspension? You mention in the video that you had 315/75’s on this at one point. JC.
@@Volkswear no same suspension 2inch ome at this point years ago
I have a stock Toyota Tacoma I run 2 45 75 r 16. When I head the previous tires the hand cooks I know it's not the tire you talking about when the Hancock's for knew it was able to get through Big snow banks. I heard a lot about the tire you had mentioned I'm probly gonna get the same size and a set of those in a few weeks. Great information. I'm amazed at what those stuck to comas can take on dirt roads and other places. I live up in the northeast so we get a lot of snow a lot of slush
David Woodbury thanks for viewing and I have ran these tires in about every different surface you can find and I’m satisfied with them in every respect. I was contemplating going with the falken mt but I will put on another set just like them I’m that satisfied
Wise man with experience.
I actually have set of brand new 4 33x12.5x15 Falken AT3W's in the back of my truck waiting to get mounted and balanced. Half the price of any BFG tires!
I ending up mounting these tires on a 2013 Jeep JK thanks to your review and a thread on Expedition Portal and I am also in love with these tires. They are performing amazingly on the trails but the biggest surprise for me was the smooth ride for an E tire and hardly any road noise. I’m running 38 psi for highway and 20 psi on trails. I live in an area where there are a lot of jeeps and all are lifted and running 37’s. I have no idea what they do when they get a flat because there’s no way they could lift those tires off the back.
About your last statement... It's an opportunity to flex for the ladies!
He's running 235/85/R16 if you were wondering @5:26
235/85R16, awesome!
Thank you for the information.
Look at all of the tires of the tractors around. They are very tall to get clearance but very skinny to cut through
Look at all the earth movers around... Comparing tractors is apples to oranges.
You are right, I agree with you. I run 7.50R16 yokohama super hajari on my landcruiser 76. Easy sand driving. Regards
I've been eyeballin' this exact 255/80-17 and the 255/85 (Mickey's Baja Boss A/T) for over a YEAR, now... trying to wrap my head around what I know in my heart is right... and what's right is the fact that this 80-seeries Wildpeak weighs within 2 lbs of a C-Load Range KO2, is $55 cheaper AND remains a stout E-Load Range tire. Win/win/win. Gonna wrap 'em around a set of five Method 705 in Titanium (color) 17 X 8.5 (max rec wheel width) +25mm and while almost 5/16" taller than the 0 offset 17 X 8.5 Motegi Trailite/285/70-17 that's on the truck now should not rub while approaching full steering lock in reverse... and the whole shebang should weigh just 10 lbs more per corner but with a far greater degree of capability, resistance to puncture, and have the 10-inch-wide tire look I've been looking forward to having on my truck. blah blah blah... Thanks JASON! for a great video, even five years on. You are the man. Happy Holidays to you.
Ah! I hear you say 235/85-16 in this tire - my bad!
Anyway, your tire experience and current philosophy was the push I needed. I ordered the Wildpeak AT2W in 255/80-17 for my F150. Waiting on the wheels to be delivered and then it's off to the installer! Thanks again Jason.
If you dont re gear big tires are useless. The is a really good video out the takes print of contact patch comparisons of the 255 and 315 's. The skinnys out perform the 315's in every way.
I've decided on these tires for my ram 1500. My stock tire is 265 70 17 which is under 31 in tall. I'm going to go with the wild peakAT3 in 255 80 17. This will be less than 1/2" narrower than stock, while getting me a 33-in tall tire. I think it's going to be perfect
Great choice
Lot of good points. I really wish the manufacturers would make more skinny/tall tires. I would love a 255 wide, C-load, 35" tire, but that is a unicorn.
Jesse Ansell yes a 255 wide tire is prob the best size out there for 33 or taller if there were just more tires avaliable
Been hearing the same.arguments for years, the only situation tall and narrow doesn’t perform better in , in my experience is Ice.
I have now Falkon Wildpeaks on my 03 gmc yukon xl , great traction and turning / cornering but yes the 35" add transmission stress and - mpg lol
3rdgen Runner 265 75 r16 Falken Wildpeak At3....All Day
Good discussion. I've too wondered about this. In the States it seems like most people run the tallest and widest tire possible. However when you look at a lot of international rigs from Land Cruisers to G-Wagons, Land Rovers, Patrols it seems a lot of the the overlanding vehicles run skinny tires. Camel Trophy, Expedition 7, and from what I've seen all the UN & military vehicles run skinny tires. I guess there are many ways to skin a cat and the best thing about it is that tires are easy to change out. Just have to see what works best for you type of driving.
Most of that comes down to cost, in Siberia and Antarctica they run wide and tall because they need to limit ground pressure to prevent sinking in the mud or deep snow, only reason I run wide is because my f250 with 235/85s would leave 2x 5+ inch deep holes in the grass just from being parked a few days.
33 inch tire without rubbing the UCA.
Wonderful 🤙🏼
At least the 255/85/16
I don’t disagree with your conclusions, but saying that narrower tires increase “contact pressure” isn’t true. At a given tire pressure (e.g. 20 PSI) the area of the contact patch will be practically identical regardless of the width of the tire; the shape of the contact patch will just be shaped differently (longer and narrower with the skinnier tire and vice versa with the wider tire). The pressure transferred to the ground will also be equal (20 PSI in the example I gave).
I run those and i love em . 98 dodge half ton.
THANK'S FOR THE REVIEW... I HAVE FJ CRUISER... AND I USE 285/70 R17... KO2 NOW BUT CHANGE THIS SUMMER FOR THE FALKEN ... I LIKE THE KO2 BUT NOW IT IS OFF ... SO I M GONNA TRY THE FALKEN 👍
FAB QUIF you will love them, I run falken on my Tacoma and recently have switched my land cruiser to Yokohama I’ve regretted it the falken is a better tire for sure and will be going back on
@@ozarkoverlandoutfitters9218 thank for all the info 👍 I live in Québec we have a lot of snow and summer time a do fire road .. I cant t wait to try them 👍
Thanks man, it help me get that size for my Tacoma, still unsure about the brand but I’ll make a desicion
Love pizza cutters. They cut through EVERYTHING!. Mud &sand aired down. Same matched truck with bigger tires and a more experienced driver got hung up where I took the same path and rolled through. Just look at the tires they used in WW2 and the tires that built and maintained forestry and fire roads. Look at expedition vehicles (non artic) back in the day. All pizza cutters. Check out 4xoverland and check out his video. He explains the physics of narrow tires. Hes an expedition filmographer going into Africa 100s if not 1000s of miles from any human being. Says alot... just my experience. And for the record I came up in offloading with 35x12.5 BFGs on my f100, K5 blazers one gas one diesel hard bodies, even had a Chevy Luv too 4cyl though. Now I have an 07 Tacoma TRD 4.0L V6 4 inch Dobinsons lift with SPC upper control arms and a shell I run 255/85 KO3s. My buddies put a goat bell on my truck and nick named it "the goat" not that it's the greatest of all time but itll go pert near anywhere I want to go. Thank you for making this video and passing the word about narrow and tall tires.
I’m now on the market for new all-terrain tires. I have been eyeing the BFG KO2 for a while now but I’m hearing some good reviews with these Falken Wildpeaks.
It’s great to hear someone who previously ran the KO2’s like you.
Aside from the price difference, why would you recommend these Falken tires over the BFG tires?
I would they have been a very solid tire for me and feel like they have been better performing
I had a set of Bf Goodrich K02 it was a great tires but 14K miles in and guess what bald city. Mixture of city and off road.
I always run 265/75s on all four corners and carry a 235/85 spare (also use 235/85 on my trailers and trailer spares).
Have never once had an issue finding a tire, not even down south of the border.
Also fixes the odo inaccuracy on my Tacoma’s and 4Runners perfectly with the +1 size haha.
Chaz Spellman yes both the 265 and the 235 are very common and a great choice
I’m thinking it’s those or the newer general grabbers atx
Thinking of them on my 2019 Outback 3.6R for Sept thru March here in MN. They handle well and durable on gravel roads ? I am on these a LOT !
Been loving my wildpeaks
I always thought the 255-85-16 was a perfect size for a truck that goes off road but I never bought any because of the limited availability. To bad!
The last couple years there has been more and more brands bring on this size and many more in the 17 inch variant. So it’s more promising and I do agree it’s the perfect size
Preach it brother amen