Now that I think about it, it really feels like Miyazaki just threw her in at the end of the Raoh ruins cos he needed a boss to block the thorns. He didn't put much effort into her lore. Didn't even give her a cutscene. Which is kinda sad imo cos she's such a cool boss.
@@anonisnoone6125 she is clearly in the trailer, she's not a disposable boss. I can understand the stories of most of threads in the dlc, but I still don't understand hers. Doesn't mean there isn't one.
The lack of a cutscene for her is really a shame, she is the second Boss to be actively empowered by Scarlet rot and the first to have accepted her power from the beginning but was so little explored
Makes one wonder WTF was going on in the DLCs development that some of the stuff in here came out abrupt and half-baked, both in terms of lore and lack of boss cutscenes and dialogue.
@@VictorIV0310I would like to say that I disagree with you but no, the lore of the hornsent, Romina and Midra really seemed so small that it bothered me a lot
@@ronaldmacjokerfeliz2669Romina and Midra I agree but I was pretty satisfied with all the Hornsent lore except for some stuff that’s still left ambiguous such as the “seduction and betrayal” involving Marika that led to her ascension to godhood.
same problem i had with rellana. she's literally the sister of queen rennala and we get no cutscene OR DIALOGUE? she may as well be a random carian knight with how they treated her.
@@johnny-yj7ku gets even better when watching Zullies vid. They didnt even take the effort to give her a face... but random burger king head wearing side npc got one of the most beautiful faces...
Bayle also felt kinda under cooked, DLC dragons in previous souls games had some really nice visual set up, Kalameet met you at the bridge in the royal woods, Sinh woke up upon your arrival and bombarded some shulva knights, Midir harassed you throughout the ringed city. Bayle on the otherhand just kinda shows up and dies immediately. You could argue Igon IS the presentation, and I would argue back that Gough still did it better and without needing to intrude on the foreshadowing. Seems like a wasted opportunity considering how many call backs this DLC had feeling like the Smash Ultimate of Souls and the fact that bayle was visibly wounded off screen. It would have been much cooler if they gave Igon his own cinematic "I wont miss" moment and had him take bayles leg with one of his great arrows causing him to retreat up the jagged peak.
After all this time, beating the DLC twice, I see this video and finally realize that she was the burnt woman cradling the spiral object in the story trailer
@@mokadelic4037 yeah but what would it even be for Romina, she’s a genuinely useless character, she has no build-up towards her reveal and she doesn’t add anything to the Scarlet Rot storyline. They lightly imply that Rahu is the birthplace of the ancient golem warriors, so why don’t they expand on that instead of adding more useless Scarlet Rot facts. Rellana on the other hand, has by far the most uninteresting dungeon in the DLC, there’s no buildup towards apart from some Carian enemies that just appear them without reason, drops an insane revelation revealing she’s Ranni’s aunt, and then nothing, I don’t know why she followed Mesmer and why she attacks us, it all feels very halfbaked. Meanwhile, Bayle, a secondary boss, despite still having some hazy backstory, has a phenomenal build up with Igon, the dragon man and the overall area. When we reach the top of the mountain we fear Bayle and what he’s capable of, we saw how powerful his minions where, what he did to Igon and the lesser dragon, and the precautions that were put in place to isolate his domain, with Rellana everything was all very underwhelming especially after visiting Belurat and fighting the dancing Lion.
One thing I find perhaps the most interesting about Romina is that despite being 2/3 arthropod and having an additional centipede head with extra eyes, she never did fight like one would expect an insect to fight. The centipede head never looks anywhere she isn't facing, and the way she commands it to act is more akin to a limb than an entity of its own, Always in deliberate movements and rarely if ever in tandem with her upper half. It really gives the impression that she has to consciously move and control its positioning which takes great focus, but betrays an innate unfamiliarity with her body. Similarly, the scorpion tail don't often hit on her "left" side despite seemingly having the movement range to do so, if possible she always prefers to turn around to "face" you before delivering a stick. This further suggests that despite being seemingly made out of three creatures merged into one, Romina aren't actually granted any instinctual mastery over it. It's a strange hint of humanity shining through despite her inhuman exterior.
To be fair, IRL centipede eyes aren't nearly as sophisticated as ours, or even other arthropods. They can basically only detect light and dark, so centipedes primarily hunt via scent, touch, and vibration. Doesn't discredit your observation at all - I think you're right on the mark with it, but it does explain why she doesn't use the centipede head to observe more of her surroundings lol.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 don't act like your that popular as to have hundreds of people hating you because you didn't like a boss. You still have yet to answer the multiple people that asked you questions based on your accusations about a orange scorpion? What? Go take a chill pill, also? If you didn't beat the boss. It's susceptible to anything fire related. Stop hating so badly. Makes you look ignorant.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735first of all why are u complaining here. 2nd of all the only lackluster part is her lore. Sheis a great fight. Great design and moves. Stop jumping on the hate train then calling everyone fanboys cause they disagree with yo stupid ass 😂
It looks like each of her legs were transformed into insect bodies and twisted around eachother. The way the insect parts meld into her human torso is pretty morbid, looks like something from the early days of skin grafting.
Man, I really wish we got her floral cape & crown as armor even more now. I love how her Centipede/Scorpion body is two fused insects just like the adult Pests, but with that wicked stinger emerging from the bottom. Her physical body is brutally scarred in ways I'd never noticed before, so thanks again for these close-up looks!!
It took me a minute, but I realized why her colors, and the seeds in her chest are the way they are; She resembles a pomegranate. the seeds in her chest like the seeds of the fruit, the flowering parts of her body resembling the flowers of the plant, and the pale, worn look of her skin resembles the pale, dividing flesh of the fruit, that separates the seed clusters. Pomegranates represent fertility, sanctity, and abundance. With the abundant nature of how the rot behaves, the kindred of rot, and how people like Millicent were ‘born’ from it, it makes sense, in a way.
Weird that FromSoft didn't give her a bigger role. No cutscene, no dialogue, not really mentioned in item descriptions prior to the fight. I genuinely thought I was fighting an optional boss.
I kind of like it actually. We know she has SOME kind of lore relevance cuz she was in the trailer, but the game isn't helping us at all this time. It's completely up to our interpretation.
@eergegerg23 Likely Miquella as he leans harder into charming anything with a pulse, and he did experiment with scarlet rot to try and find a cure to Melanie's infliction, only abled to halt it with Unalloyed Gold. He likely tried to see if he could charm someone converted by the Rot and allow for Melanie to just give in to it or something else. Who knows, overall Fromsoft put more effort into the geography and artificial difficulty with the blessings than much lore not relating to Marika, Mesmer, and Miquella. Honestly with how entwined Miquella is in Melanie's story with the Scarlet Rot you'd think we'd get Miquella assigning his sister as consort and giving her a new vessel rather than Radahn and Mogh wombo combo.
This is probably as close an approximation we'll have to what the outer god of rot looks like: considering Romina fully embraced the rot, it's safe to say she'd take on the god's appearance more and more. Becoming a hybrid of centipede, scorpion, butterfly, and flower are all emblems of the god of rot. Malenia meanwhile only had the butterfly and flower aspects imbedded to her because of how much she fought back
To he completely honest: if this is what God of Rot looks like then God dam. Malenia describe Rot as something horrible and horryfing, while Romina shows something completely different. Yeah, her form is terryfying from the perspective of a human, but this doesn't change the fact there's a morbidly beautiful. It's not just Caelid which she nuked. Rot in itself is a part of life, and there's Beaty in it
@@sirith9157 Malenia probably saw the rot from the perspective of the golden order, and thus like with most pagan gods/influences all the good of the rot were smote over and overlooked, being demonized with any negative aspects exaggerated to further aggrandize the golden order as the only good thing/choice. It's no wonder she rejected it so hard. Imagine a old times christian being told they were born under the foreign influence of a pagan god? How many would see the good?
One of my favourite attacks of hers is the one where she twirls around trying to hit you with both the centipede and scorpion parts of her body, because it reminds me of the motion a ball gown makes when being danced in, so elegant in such an unconventional way🦋🌺
I got a theory Malenia's rot is orange/red - She rejects it, thinking it to be negative Rumina's rot is pink. She accepts it, thinking it to be positive Red/orange rot - The negative side of rot, representing destruction and withering Pink rot - The positive side, representing rebirth/reincarnation
@@dragondust5023 I like this idea but the environment proceeding her being red and the kindreds of rot getting their red paint job kinda hurts this interpretation given that Rumia would be the only source of rot in the land of shadow
She was a welcome surprise, From's club of human-insect hybrid women who are basically topless hasn't gotten a new member in ages. I'm told they still haven't let Tark in, poor fella. Heh.
Ah the girl from the trailer. She embraced the scarlet rot but never destined to be a goddess of the rot. I loved her design but never knew she had a big smile on her face.
The centipede part is intriguing, since as far as I know that wasn’t a creature associated with rot before( unless the pests count), and also what centipedes usually symbolize in fromsoft gsmes
I'd say they definitely are: the pests are most comparable to centipedes than any other creature, so it fits in my mind. If anything the scorpion aspect is what could catch a player off guard if they'd never gotten the scorpion stinger dagger since it's the only thing that suggests (as far as I remember) the god of rot is scorpion-like
Centipedes definitely do have a strong connection with the concept of rot. Stagnation is a primary concern of every fromsoft game and rot is exactly that, another form of stagnation.
centipede depicts immortality in sekiro no?? perverted version of bikuchou 'the silk worm of immortality' from budhist myth, you grow them inside your body and they'll grant you immortalities and eternal youth
So glad you pointed out the Soundtracks for more people to recognise. I’m a musician, and there’s a lot of noticeable stuff in the OST’s like this that unfortunately some people just might not recognise. Thanks for showcasing it.
She is not all that highlighted which is a shame since that eerie, faint smile on her face would have probably made for a nice introduction in a cutscene So as far as I understood, Romina was the Keeper/Priestess of the Church atop the Ruins of Rauh and a religious Figure Head to the Hornsent it seems. But in the wake of Messmers Crusade, her Church and likely her Congregation was burned to the Ground and in her dismay she communed with the Outer God of Scarlet Rot to cultivate not only the Red Buds that now bloom all over the Ruins but also became a vessel for the Scarlet Rot it´self She also seems to have taken on the Role of Godmother for the Pests of Aeonia who Malenia created but holds no love for I feel as if she is a bit of a re-imagening of the Fair Lady from Blighttown in Dark Souls I
@@Miguel-the-Moth Interesting, but this also reveals that Messmer must be far older then many of his other Siblings which begs the Question as to when exactly she had him going by his Characteristics he must be a sibling to Malenia, Melina and Miquella and therefore stem from the marriage of Marika and Radagon post Godfrey, but the Crusade must have ocurred before Godfreys era if one is to believe that Marikas Omen Twins Morgott and Mohg are a result of the Hornsents Curse - and if they are not and Messmer is the first Child she had with Radagon post Godfrey, then a generous time window would have to exist between his and Melinas birth and that of Miquella and Malenia
Probably the only person i feel sorry to fell victim of messmer flame. She didn't seem do have anything to do with hornsent but her church still got burned, turning her to the scarlet rot
I guess it's been a while since I played, because I can't comment on the moves or music, but I definitely thought of that butterfly boss from CV while fighting her lol
I have been scouring youtube and the internet in general trying to find references for her, so an heartfelt THANK YOU because some of these shots are incredible! * runs to draw fanart*
@@jonasfull to properly play elden ring you have to explore everything. everything. the haligtree is like the most talked about secret in the game so its rly rly not that obscure
ive been waiting for someone to post a closeup video of this boss ever since i first saw her! looking for it how i discovered your channel. Thanks for your doing this with simple and comprehensive videos! Anyways. Would.
Quelaag 2: Rotten Boogaloo Also, never noticed how much she looks like St. Trina. Doubt she was ever intended as Malenia's other half, but I wonder what Romina's role would be after her ascension as the Goddess of Rot.
I love how Rotten Butterflies states Romina took in Malenia's butterflies after we kill her. For all that she's fighting us, I feel like she was quite the gentle soul before the Crusade.
Romina’s design is absolutely AMAZING!!! I wonder why she wasn’t given a more prominent role in the DLC considering how she’s the one character who has accepted the rot god’s influence (also no concept art?! What the heck?!) but regardless of her role they absolutely BALLED with this design (i’m literally losing my mind over how pretty she is. Also that stinger did some psychic damage to me).
Romina is definitely one of my favourite boss designs fromsoft have made combined with a great ost and fight Edit: a shame that she doesn’t have a cutscene would love to know more about her
i haven’t seen anyone talk about this, but isn’t it kinda obvious that romina is like the other half of malenia? her body looks a lot like trina, she’s the only other character to ever be called a “saint”, her theme is reminescent of phase 2 malenia, every other child of marika and radagon seems to have another personality or being within them (the snake thing in messmer and the gloam eyed queen in melina) and marika herself has radagon as another half of her. this might also be related to the butterflies theory but idk about that.
It would have been interesting but no.... why? Santa Trina also dies when we defeat Miquella and depending on who you face first (Malenia or Romina) the other should also die
@@nikosuarez2021yeah that makes sense, i wish we had more confirmed lore on this because i think that there are too many coincidences to ignore this theory, maybe they discarded the original idea behind romina but kept her design because it was already done or something
Huh, if they are called seeds in the code and there are 5 on her chest then maybe they are related to Malenia's 5 "children" with them being born from the scarlet aeonia buds in calid.
Gorgeous creature ! I loved her even if we don't know much about her except that she was the guardian of the Church of the Bud and she's trying to prevent the Tarnished from burning the sealing tree.
I have zero drawing or animation skills so I have to use my words, but with the petals on her head and cape I think a really cool intro animation for her would have been if she was initially coiled up with petals covering her, looking like a rose, which slowly unfurls and uncoils to reveal first her torso then the centipede/scorpion halves
So does this mean Rot is connected to Death in terms of entities? The Cursemark of Death is considered the mark of the Centipede. Scorpions seem to have more of a relationship to rot, considering the way to make X-proof pickled livers is with the addition of a scorpion liver in crafting. Still trying to figure out how deep this cult of the bud goes.
gotta remember the order of rot is a cycle of DEATH and REBIRTH. If death is indicated by a centipede, a scorpion would be the symbol of rebirth. I went looking through the scorpion-themed items and found out that the scorpion talismans all specify the scorpion has freshly molted, which to me only strengthens their connection to rebirthing.
@@themaniae4803 "Kept as a fetish by Golden Order fundamentalists, especially the hunters of Those Who Live in Death." From the golden centipede item description, they made sure to connect the golden centipede to the general symbol of death.
Correct me if I’m wrong but i thought the bud represented something entirely different to the church but that was lost when it was burned and Rominia turned to the scarlet rot? Can’t remember/find what description led me to that belief
I mean Rellana lore is quite clear. She was renalla sister and a carian royal. Later after the carian war was done she joined Mesmer war against the hornsent most likely sent as a sign of goodwill from the carians and became one of mesmers closest Knights that he gave her a piece of his kindling. Her lore is pretty clear cut
Rellana has about as much explanation as you need - she's another from the carian royal family. She left it at some point because of Messmer. Her admiration of Messmer reflects Renalla's love for Radagon. And like all the carians, she's a formidable fighter.
They leave them with plenty of explanation within item descriptions, with small details possibly unclear, like many bosses. Cutscenes don't explain things, sure I won't argue against their inclusion, I would've liked to have more of them too so intricacies of character are further fleshed out, but they're otherwise more like a bonus a lot of the time. Even then I'm not sure what they could've done to make the characters you mentioned more fleshed out with a cutscene, they'd probably just have a dark souls 1 style 'boss reacts to you intimidatingly'.
>highlights the centipede half
>"scorpion"
>highlights the scorpion half
>"centipede"
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
I was about to say the same thing lmao
same joke every time
I'm really tired of 4chan users.@@garadak7.
@@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69Maybe that should ring a bell, don't you think?
@@garadak7.ye , he could have left the last two part and I think the comment would have been better
Miyazaki didn't put much effort into her lore because she has no feet.
She's got like 30 goddamn feet
Now that I think about it, it really feels like Miyazaki just threw her in at the end of the Raoh ruins cos he needed a boss to block the thorns. He didn't put much effort into her lore. Didn't even give her a cutscene. Which is kinda sad imo cos she's such a cool boss.
@@giornaguirneinsect legs, not feet. That’s like saying your car has 4 feet
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 They have feet, just no toes
@@anonisnoone6125 she is clearly in the trailer, she's not a disposable boss. I can understand the stories of most of threads in the dlc, but I still don't understand hers. Doesn't mean there isn't one.
The lack of a cutscene for her is really a shame, she is the second Boss to be actively empowered by Scarlet rot and the first to have accepted her power from the beginning but was so little explored
And not even a dialogue
Makes one wonder WTF was going on in the DLCs development that some of the stuff in here came out abrupt and half-baked, both in terms of lore and lack of boss cutscenes and dialogue.
@@VictorIV0310I would like to say that I disagree with you but no, the lore of the hornsent, Romina and Midra really seemed so small that it bothered me a lot
@@ronaldmacjokerfeliz2669Romina and Midra I agree but I was pretty satisfied with all the Hornsent lore except for some stuff that’s still left ambiguous such as the “seduction and betrayal” involving Marika that led to her ascension to godhood.
I guess they had to choose on what to concentrate their attention while meeting deadlines at the same time
-Teased in the Cinematic
-Has no dialogue
-Has no cinematic
same problem i had with rellana. she's literally the sister of queen rennala and we get no cutscene OR DIALOGUE? she may as well be a random carian knight with how they treated her.
Writing lore in item is fine and all but some part really feel like they skimmed the presentation .
@@johnny-yj7ku gets even better when watching Zullies vid. They didnt even take the effort to give her a face... but random burger king head wearing side npc got one of the most beautiful faces...
Bayle also felt kinda under cooked, DLC dragons in previous souls games had some really nice visual set up, Kalameet met you at the bridge in the royal woods, Sinh woke up upon your arrival and bombarded some shulva knights, Midir harassed you throughout the ringed city. Bayle on the otherhand just kinda shows up and dies immediately.
You could argue Igon IS the presentation, and I would argue back that Gough still did it better and without needing to intrude on the foreshadowing.
Seems like a wasted opportunity considering how many call backs this DLC had feeling like the Smash Ultimate of Souls and the fact that bayle was visibly wounded off screen. It would have been much cooler if they gave Igon his own cinematic "I wont miss" moment and had him take bayles leg with one of his great arrows causing him to retreat up the jagged peak.
@@Old-Deusbecause the NPCs use the player model while Rellana doesn’t
After all this time, beating the DLC twice, I see this video and finally realize that she was the burnt woman cradling the spiral object in the story trailer
holy shit thank you for your comment! I was still confused about that character in the trailer
How did u make that connection?
@@anonisnoone6125read the lore description of her items
@@anonisnoone6125The woman in the trailer is holding the spiral bud that serves as the spearhead of Romina’s weapon
@@anonisnoone6125You can see her spear in the trailer, also her theme is playing in that moment
The fact that Romina and Rellana don't have intro cutscenes is CRIMINAL.
Right? Makes them feel way less important than they should
@@mokadelic4037 yeah but what would it even be for Romina, she’s a genuinely useless character, she has no build-up towards her reveal and she doesn’t add anything to the Scarlet Rot storyline.
They lightly imply that Rahu is the birthplace of the ancient golem warriors, so why don’t they expand on that instead of adding more useless Scarlet Rot facts.
Rellana on the other hand, has by far the most uninteresting dungeon in the DLC, there’s no buildup towards apart from some Carian enemies that just appear them without reason, drops an insane revelation revealing she’s Ranni’s aunt, and then nothing, I don’t know why she followed Mesmer and why she attacks us, it all feels very halfbaked.
Meanwhile, Bayle, a secondary boss, despite still having some hazy backstory, has a phenomenal build up with Igon, the dragon man and the overall area.
When we reach the top of the mountain we fear Bayle and what he’s capable of, we saw how powerful his minions where, what he did to Igon and the lesser dragon, and the precautions that were put in place to isolate his domain, with Rellana everything was all very underwhelming especially after visiting Belurat and fighting the dancing Lion.
One thing I find perhaps the most interesting about Romina is that despite being 2/3 arthropod and having an additional centipede head with extra eyes, she never did fight like one would expect an insect to fight.
The centipede head never looks anywhere she isn't facing, and the way she commands it to act is more akin to a limb than an entity of its own, Always in deliberate movements and rarely if ever in tandem with her upper half. It really gives the impression that she has to consciously move and control its positioning which takes great focus, but betrays an innate unfamiliarity with her body.
Similarly, the scorpion tail don't often hit on her "left" side despite seemingly having the movement range to do so, if possible she always prefers to turn around to "face" you before delivering a stick. This further suggests that despite being seemingly made out of three creatures merged into one, Romina aren't actually granted any instinctual mastery over it.
It's a strange hint of humanity shining through despite her inhuman exterior.
Good stinger size tho
Scorpions have very little lateral tail mobility, and can only sting directly in front of them. So that part isn't too surprising
The way the bugs start at her hips and twist around, they might have just been her legs once upon a time
To be fair, IRL centipede eyes aren't nearly as sophisticated as ours, or even other arthropods. They can basically only detect light and dark, so centipedes primarily hunt via scent, touch, and vibration. Doesn't discredit your observation at all - I think you're right on the mark with it, but it does explain why she doesn't use the centipede head to observe more of her surroundings lol.
Scorpion: I have eight feet!
Centipede: I have a hundred!
Miyazaki: *climaxes in the background*
that was not a good result and the boss is a huge lackluster.....here come the fanboys
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 don't act like your that popular as to have hundreds of people hating you because you didn't like a boss. You still have yet to answer the multiple people that asked you questions based on your accusations about a orange scorpion? What? Go take a chill pill, also? If you didn't beat the boss. It's susceptible to anything fire related. Stop hating so badly. Makes you look ignorant.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735lol and don’t forget the morons who can’t even stand behind their statements 😂😂😂
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 here come the morons to make generic claims and act all big about it 🤣🤣🤣
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735first of all why are u complaining here. 2nd of all the only lackluster part is her lore. Sheis a great fight. Great design and moves. Stop jumping on the hate train then calling everyone fanboys cause they disagree with yo stupid ass 😂
It looks like each of her legs were transformed into insect bodies and twisted around eachother. The way the insect parts meld into her human torso is pretty morbid, looks like something from the early days of skin grafting.
... So is she potentially a shaman? Hmm...
Twisted, Bug Melusine
Well Romina might be a shaman from marikas village
Unlike Melu she somehow cannot loop the attacks on her glaive, which is a shame due to its low base damage…
funny thing none of those belong in the insect group, centepedes are myriapods and scorpions, arachnids.
1:14 I think you got the centipede and scorpion halves confused there 😅
he might've had a little rot while studying her
@@skullhead1O1😭
Bro was mesmerized by her, got him confused and shit. I mean I look at her
I was about to say...
Look at that horse
Man, I really wish we got her floral cape & crown as armor even more now.
I love how her Centipede/Scorpion body is two fused insects just like the adult Pests, but with that wicked stinger emerging from the bottom. Her physical body is brutally scarred in ways I'd never noticed before, so thanks again for these close-up looks!!
Her body's more like 1 insect, an arachnid, and a miriapod.
It took me a minute, but I realized why her colors, and the seeds in her chest are the way they are; She resembles a pomegranate.
the seeds in her chest like the seeds of the fruit, the flowering parts of her body resembling the flowers of the plant, and the pale, worn look of her skin resembles the pale, dividing flesh of the fruit, that separates the seed clusters.
Pomegranates represent fertility, sanctity, and abundance. With the abundant nature of how the rot behaves, the kindred of rot, and how people like Millicent were ‘born’ from it, it makes sense, in a way.
You can giggle all you want but im in love with her design
poor choice
She has an amazing design, music and the fight is really fun too. A shame her role is so small...
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735salty loser 😂
yeah she has the most unique design in whole dlc
Why not, she reminds me a lot of Alraune from Bayonetta 2 which is such a hype boss
Remember, her stinger is bigger than Messmer’s 18 inches, and that’s it not even in attack mode
She has another stinger down there under too, not just the scorpion's one. 😂
Wait until they hear about Miquella…
I didn't know she was from Bangkok
@@LuckyLiarKoh that’s what I was referring too
@@Epsonea_482 ah I thought you talk about just her scorpion.
She was the maiden embracing a spear in the history trailer it seems
As it was in a burning church, right after messmer released his flame
"She's Marika! She's Melina! She's the GEQ!" and was just Queelag 3.0
Weird that FromSoft didn't give her a bigger role. No cutscene, no dialogue, not really mentioned in item descriptions prior to the fight. I genuinely thought I was fighting an optional boss.
Yeah me too. Like «oh cool a callback to queelag how nice»
And I don't understand why she even guard the path to thorns. And why she attacks player. She hates Messmer and we just killed him.
Why Romina protect the thorns when she hates Messmer? Because Miquella, that's why.
I kind of like it actually. We know she has SOME kind of lore relevance cuz she was in the trailer, but the game isn't helping us at all this time. It's completely up to our interpretation.
@eergegerg23 Likely Miquella as he leans harder into charming anything with a pulse, and he did experiment with scarlet rot to try and find a cure to Melanie's infliction, only abled to halt it with Unalloyed Gold. He likely tried to see if he could charm someone converted by the Rot and allow for Melanie to just give in to it or something else. Who knows, overall Fromsoft put more effort into the geography and artificial difficulty with the blessings than much lore not relating to Marika, Mesmer, and Miquella.
Honestly with how entwined Miquella is in Melanie's story with the Scarlet Rot you'd think we'd get Miquella assigning his sister as consort and giving her a new vessel rather than Radahn and Mogh wombo combo.
Who doesn't love a centipede scorpion flower butterfly lady, am I right?
Don’t forget those delicious pommegranate seeds
You are right.
Being someone with a not insignificant fear of both centipedes and scorpions, me.
@@greenhydra10But that still leaves butterflies, flowers, pomegranates and lady. That’s a 2/1 ratio of love to hate, which is still good.
This is probably as close an approximation we'll have to what the outer god of rot looks like: considering Romina fully embraced the rot, it's safe to say she'd take on the god's appearance more and more. Becoming a hybrid of centipede, scorpion, butterfly, and flower are all emblems of the god of rot. Malenia meanwhile only had the butterfly and flower aspects imbedded to her because of how much she fought back
To he completely honest: if this is what God of Rot looks like then God dam. Malenia describe Rot as something horrible and horryfing, while Romina shows something completely different. Yeah, her form is terryfying from the perspective of a human, but this doesn't change the fact there's a morbidly beautiful. It's not just Caelid which she nuked. Rot in itself is a part of life, and there's Beaty in it
@@sirith9157it would be kinda fitting that after you accept the rot and all is rotted away you're kinda born anew.
@@sirith9157 Malenia probably saw the rot from the perspective of the golden order, and thus like with most pagan gods/influences all the good of the rot were smote over and overlooked, being demonized with any negative aspects exaggerated to further aggrandize the golden order as the only good thing/choice.
It's no wonder she rejected it so hard. Imagine a old times christian being told they were born under the foreign influence of a pagan god? How many would see the good?
She became a saint because she was not empyrean and couldn’t ascend to God hood
The antspurr rapier has what I believe to be a representation of it as it’s guard too
Wish we had the flower head as a helmet
Would be really goddamn fucking awesome bro. Broski. My brotha
I wish we got the pope turtle hat to increase faith but Nooooooo😢
A cape with wings would've been so cool too
@@mitsuri3096 How exactly would you go about obtaining his hat huh? Surely you wouldnt kill him for it
@@Wilolino give him every scroll and prayer book
One of my favourite attacks of hers is the one where she twirls around trying to hit you with both the centipede and scorpion parts of her body, because it reminds me of the motion a ball gown makes when being danced in, so elegant in such an unconventional way🦋🌺
Dance dance revolution is the theme of most of the dlc.
Dancing lion, relanna's twirling etc
@@detach103ff4 spin-to-win was the strat in ds3 so fromsoft said fuck it thats mine now
I got a theory
Malenia's rot is orange/red - She rejects it, thinking it to be negative
Rumina's rot is pink. She accepts it, thinking it to be positive
Red/orange rot - The negative side of rot, representing destruction and withering
Pink rot - The positive side, representing rebirth/reincarnation
@@dragondust5023 I like this idea but the environment proceeding her being red and the kindreds of rot getting their red paint job kinda hurts this interpretation given that Rumia would be the only source of rot in the land of shadow
@@swift7842 the kindred of rot there are very distinctly hot pink just like Romina, as is the rot
The rot is all the same color, red in solid form, pink in liquid form. Malenia's was tinged gold by her lineage.
Love that theory a lot
I love this interpretation. Perhaps the rot manifests differently between hosts, and so their colours would be different as well.
She was a welcome surprise, From's club of human-insect hybrid women who are basically topless hasn't gotten a new member in ages.
I'm told they still haven't let Tark in, poor fella.
Heh.
Messy divorces lead to messier lives.
Heh
Heh - 😏
Heh. My apologies, I found that so amusing I just had to laugh. Heh heh.
Heh he heh
Heh heh heh.
Ah the girl from the trailer. She embraced the scarlet rot but never destined to be a goddess of the rot. I loved her design but never knew she had a big smile on her face.
yea no divine blood, but powerful.
@@taddad2641isn't she a Numen? Or "Divine Blood" mean an Empyrean but she isn't one?
>important character
>good buildup
>good design
>no cutscene
why?
>no feet
OHH
good build up ?
important character ?
good design ?
Approaches from the mic :
WOULD
Awww, that's cute. She gave us a heart🖤
Best song for any boss. Personally. This shit makes me so hyped when the transition to her 2nd phase comes in.
Glorious.
how can a boss be so disgusting but so beautiful at the same time? this is peak design
nah
it is a recycled trash and terrible boss
The guy above me probably keeps dying to the ruin sentinel in limgrave
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 🤣🤣🤣 recycled?! Now I know you’re a moron 🤣🤣🤣
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735says the guy posting wojaks
@@HunterBloodHunterBlood RUIN SENTINEL? yeah those mfker's ran all the way over from drangleic huh 💀
The centipede part is intriguing, since as far as I know that wasn’t a creature associated with rot before( unless the pests count), and also what centipedes usually symbolize in fromsoft gsmes
I'd say they definitely are: the pests are most comparable to centipedes than any other creature, so it fits in my mind. If anything the scorpion aspect is what could catch a player off guard if they'd never gotten the scorpion stinger dagger since it's the only thing that suggests (as far as I remember) the god of rot is scorpion-like
centipedes symbolize corruption/defilement of something sacred in sekiro
Centipedes definitely do have a strong connection with the concept of rot. Stagnation is a primary concern of every fromsoft game and rot is exactly that, another form of stagnation.
There’s the golden centipede item that might have some hints!
centipede depicts immortality in sekiro no?? perverted version of bikuchou 'the silk worm of immortality' from budhist myth, you grow them inside your body and they'll grant you immortalities and eternal youth
So pissed at the amount of bosses with no cutscene. Also with the amount of bosses that could have given us armor sets but didnt.
Yes! People usually hate me when I say this, but the bosses in this DLC really lacked impact. Most of them were just okay.
So glad you pointed out the Soundtracks for more people to recognise. I’m a musician, and there’s a lot of noticeable stuff in the OST’s like this that unfortunately some people just might not recognise. Thanks for showcasing it.
anyone who fought Malenia 50,000 times recognizes that motif, musician or not
her face being scratched up from the war is ..a nice touch
she makes the shape of a heart
the wings imitating stained glass add so much to her "saint" title
Saint of the Bud sounds like a sick name for that one guy who always has that purple haze on him
3:17 Ok fellas. Hear me out...
3:37 absolutely not
Ears are wide open brother preach
@@o0HouSsaM0o that's a stinger
bees have a one and still have a vagina
@@o0HouSsaM0onow hold on…
She is not all that highlighted which is a shame since that eerie, faint smile on her face would have probably made for a nice introduction in a cutscene
So as far as I understood, Romina was the Keeper/Priestess of the Church atop the Ruins of Rauh and a religious Figure Head to the Hornsent it seems.
But in the wake of Messmers Crusade, her Church and likely her Congregation was burned to the Ground and in her dismay she communed with the Outer God of Scarlet Rot to cultivate not only the Red Buds that now bloom all over the Ruins but also became a vessel for the Scarlet Rot it´self
She also seems to have taken on the Role of Godmother for the Pests of Aeonia who Malenia created but holds no love for
I feel as if she is a bit of a re-imagening of the Fair Lady from Blighttown in Dark Souls I
@@Miguel-the-Moth Interesting, but this also reveals that Messmer must be far older then many of his other Siblings
which begs the Question as to when exactly she had him
going by his Characteristics he must be a sibling to Malenia, Melina and Miquella and therefore stem from the marriage of Marika and Radagon post Godfrey, but the Crusade must have ocurred before Godfreys era if one is to believe that Marikas Omen Twins Morgott and Mohg are a result of the Hornsents Curse - and if they are not and Messmer is the first Child she had with Radagon post Godfrey, then a generous time window would have to exist between his and Melinas birth and that of Miquella and Malenia
I love how the wings and flower petals make her look like a very creepy fairy creature
Didn't expect lover...
a rotten lover
Wow, her design is WAY more beautiful than I thought.
Right? Her little smile and pretty flower hat are actually super cute.
literally a ps1 textures this time
how is that beautiful ?
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 Dude, you never played PS1 game in your life, shut the hell up.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 Have you seen PS1 Lara Croft?
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735Lil bro, we all know you weren’t alive for the PS1 era with that take.
Probably the only person i feel sorry to fell victim of messmer flame. She didn't seem do have anything to do with hornsent but her church still got burned, turning her to the scarlet rot
Messmer burned her church because of the rot
This boss felt so much like a code vein boss, the design, the moves, even the soundtrack
mentioning code vein is not a promising sign
in fact this make it repugnant
I guess it's been a while since I played, because I can't comment on the moves or music, but I definitely thought of that butterfly boss from CV while fighting her lol
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735Code vein was a good game, not fantastic, but comparisons to it are not repugnant, you’re just an edgelord moron 😂😂😂
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 Code Vein mentioned 🔥🔥
*sprays raid* 😠
chad
ow legends
Shadow legends?
Wait I can fix her
I abandon here my cutscene
I abandon here my necessary 6 month delay
I always hear "eat a pickle" in the goddess of rot ost
behold, pickle!
thanks, can't unhear it now
Yeeesssss, this is hte Bonfire vid I'd been waiting for! Thank you!
I have been scouring youtube and the internet in general trying to find references for her, so an heartfelt THANK YOU because some of these shots are incredible! * runs to draw fanart*
I wish we got more of the bosses armour in this dlc. Her head dress is so cool and would have matched her weapon.
I loved that Malenia motiff in the Romina's theme.
I absolutely LOVE the detail of their OST's matching!
girlhood is a spectrum
1:15 you got it in reverse 😂
Bayle felt more like a Rememberance than she did. Shame, she has an awesome design.
At least i didnt forget this boss like i did with malenna, i beat every main and optional boss in the game but completely missed malenna
Did u mean she wasn't hard enough or her arena and fight boss presentation?
yes@@anonisnoone6125
@@jonasfull to properly play elden ring you have to explore everything. everything. the haligtree is like the most talked about secret in the game so its rly rly not that obscure
Bayle is a rememberence in everything except the item
saint of the bud sounds like if jesus smoked weed
nah
bad exemple
would be a fire name for a weed shop lol
ive been waiting for someone to post a closeup video of this boss ever since i first saw her! looking for it how i discovered your channel. Thanks for your doing this with simple and comprehensive videos!
Anyways. Would.
Such an enchanting/elegant boss (until she starts rolling) only to have no dialogue or cutscene
Melania: "Who are you?"
Romina: "I'm you but more interesting."
Scorpion and centipede are backwards
Ikr?? Exactly 🙄😒
Malenia : Who are you… what are you ?
Rumina : I’m everything you could have been but too scared to accept, you coward !
1:16 that is centipede 1:21 that is scorpion my good sir.
Hear me out
I'm listening
Hear me out
Speak as loud as you can
Well?
😂but like where would you stick it?
wish we got her wings and headpiece as an armour set
THIS is the one I've been waiting for!! Her amazing design begs for a closer look video! Also I feel like her OST is extremely underrated.
These colors are so beautyful ❤❤❤
Quelaag 2: Rotten Boogaloo
Also, never noticed how much she looks like St. Trina. Doubt she was ever intended as Malenia's other half, but I wonder what Romina's role would be after her ascension as the Goddess of Rot.
Quelaag 3, Najka exists
She’d probably be an accountant or something
@@cruncyart I honestly forgot about Scorpioness Najka. Think I might have to boot up DS2, been a while.
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 Contact Saint Romina, CPA PLC for all your accounting and investment oversight needs.
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 Saint Romina, CPA PLC, for all your accounting needs
I love how Rotten Butterflies states Romina took in Malenia's butterflies after we kill her. For all that she's fighting us, I feel like she was quite the gentle soul before the Crusade.
Most likely her kindness and compassion was twisted when she discovers the rot but still somewhat there
Probably not true as you don't have to kill Miquella before facing her.
I thought she took in a different rot because it got disconnected from it's home
@@azure4622 She took in the rot that Malenia refused, including the Pests who came to serve her after being abandoned.
@@m.ubaidaadam im pretty sure the rot was already discovered for her, she just uses the side representing rebirth/reincarnation
Romina’s design is absolutely AMAZING!!! I wonder why she wasn’t given a more prominent role in the DLC considering how she’s the one character who has accepted the rot god’s influence (also no concept art?! What the heck?!) but regardless of her role they absolutely BALLED with this design (i’m literally losing my mind over how pretty she is. Also that stinger did some psychic damage to me).
Oooh this made the hairs on my arms stand up it’s so beautiful❤
Romina is definitely one of my favourite boss designs fromsoft have made combined with a great ost and fight
Edit: a shame that she doesn’t have a cutscene would love to know more about her
i haven’t seen anyone talk about this, but isn’t it kinda obvious that romina is like the other half of malenia? her body looks a lot like trina, she’s the only other character to ever be called a “saint”, her theme is reminescent of phase 2 malenia, every other child of marika and radagon seems to have another personality or being within them (the snake thing in messmer and the gloam eyed queen in melina) and marika herself has radagon as another half of her. this might also be related to the butterflies theory but idk about that.
It would have been interesting but no.... why?
Santa Trina also dies when we defeat Miquella
and depending on who you face first (Malenia or Romina) the other should also die
@@nikosuarez2021yeah that makes sense, i wish we had more confirmed lore on this because i think that there are too many coincidences to ignore this theory, maybe they discarded the original idea behind romina but kept her design because it was already done or something
Huh, if they are called seeds in the code and there are 5 on her chest then maybe they are related to Malenia's 5 "children" with them being born from the scarlet aeonia buds in calid.
Gorgeous creature ! I loved her even if we don't know much about her except that she was the guardian of the Church of the Bud and she's trying to prevent the Tarnished from burning the sealing tree.
Gurl really did ❤️
Awesome
Excellent details on her character model. I absolutely love her wings!
I have zero drawing or animation skills so I have to use my words, but with the petals on her head and cape I think a really cool intro animation for her would have been if she was initially coiled up with petals covering her, looking like a rose, which slowly unfurls and uncoils to reveal first her torso then the centipede/scorpion halves
Would have been a cool armor set. I wonder if they were strapped for resources since a lot of stuff doesn't have wearable sets
Gives me Rosine vibes
that's Malenia second phase
this one however is Rosine second form (and here lore also)
An absolutely magnificent design. One of From’s best and certainly the most beautiful monster girl. Sorry Quelaag.
The OST part at the end was great!
She's probably my favorite Voss of the dlc. I was actually kinda disappointed that I beat her on my first try.
Same
Smash, next question
This was one of my favorite bosses. So unique. Crazy colors
Wow. What a beautifully designed character.
Surprised to know the music in Story trailer was from her theme
The thumbnail🩷😍
the vassal of trash got Cucked out by Feetzaki
enjoy the new lore fam
the rotten corpse got c/cked in dlc by Feetzaki
enjoy the new lore big @ss s/mp
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 ah yes, great return of the biggest chauvinist in Soulsborne community.😁
WOOOOOAAH THE MUSIC! I never noticed that!
I love that they keep going for these anatomically ambitious bosses. I can't imagine how challenging it must be to animate these.
So does this mean Rot is connected to Death in terms of entities?
The Cursemark of Death is considered the mark of the Centipede. Scorpions seem to have more of a relationship to rot, considering the way to make X-proof pickled livers is with the addition of a scorpion liver in crafting.
Still trying to figure out how deep this cult of the bud goes.
gotta remember the order of rot is a cycle of DEATH and REBIRTH. If death is indicated by a centipede, a scorpion would be the symbol of rebirth. I went looking through the scorpion-themed items and found out that the scorpion talismans all specify the scorpion has freshly molted, which to me only strengthens their connection to rebirthing.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Thats a solid take tbh
We also have Golden centipedes, creatures found in holy places. Maybe it rappresent her holy rank as a Saint
@@themaniae4803 "Kept as a fetish by Golden Order fundamentalists, especially the hunters of Those Who Live in Death." From the golden centipede item description, they made sure to connect the golden centipede to the general symbol of death.
Correct me if I’m wrong but i thought the bud represented something entirely different to the church but that was lost when it was burned and Rominia turned to the scarlet rot? Can’t remember/find what description led me to that belief
Hmmm....
Smash.
Based
Been waiting for my queen to DROP!
So would Romina be a successful example of the kind of "saints" the Potentates hoped for their jars to become?
4:44 "now kiss"
ps2 textures doesn't help
and no need to insert this shit here as the base game is already bombarded by it
Saint of the Kush
Ah the love child of Man Scorpion Tark and The Centipede Demon. Poor Quelagg feeling left out.
(read in a country accent) "Ma'am, you have the single worst case of pink eye I have ever seen"
Melina: I refuse to embrace the Scarlet Rot
Romina: Embrace the darkness within me!
i loved the part where melina turned into malenia after we gave her the elden rings and fingered our grace
@@minimegMelina be Melinaing as she Rotting
*embrace the rot within her
I hate Fromsoft because they didn't add cutscene for Romina and Rellana, then leave them with little explanation.
Hate is a strong word. Relax.
I mean Rellana lore is quite clear. She was renalla sister and a carian royal. Later after the carian war was done she joined Mesmer war against the hornsent most likely sent as a sign of goodwill from the carians and became one of mesmers closest Knights that he gave her a piece of his kindling. Her lore is pretty clear cut
Rellana has about as much explanation as you need - she's another from the carian royal family. She left it at some point because of Messmer. Her admiration of Messmer reflects Renalla's love for Radagon. And like all the carians, she's a formidable fighter.
They leave them with plenty of explanation within item descriptions, with small details possibly unclear, like many bosses. Cutscenes don't explain things, sure I won't argue against their inclusion, I would've liked to have more of them too so intricacies of character are further fleshed out, but they're otherwise more like a bonus a lot of the time. Even then I'm not sure what they could've done to make the characters you mentioned more fleshed out with a cutscene, they'd probably just have a dark souls 1 style 'boss reacts to you intimidatingly'.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qdyeah but it would've been nice if she said something before stabbing her nephew in law
This is what makes Elden ring so wonderful - there’s little story to her so we create our own story that feels so personal
2:05 : this detail when the centiped's limb touch her head is really nice