@@extremwillpower6629if it was consensual, then why would miquella send malenia to fight him. Seems like radahn denied the request and a fight ensued. Miquellas whole thing is manipulation, so why would he be above manipulating his consort in one of his final steps.
@@cartierclips1126 That's why I said at first. Miquella seemed too desperate in that last cutscene for him to have been using manipulation. And besides, Miquella is a good person and hasn't really used that manipulation in a malicious way except against Mogh who's a murder cultist and us when he becomes a god after discarding all of his positive emotions.
@@extremwillpower6629 miquella is far from good bro😂 his whole thing is manipulating while making himself seem like the good guy and it seems miquellas charm has worked on you too man
One of Miquella's followers is an ex-Radahn redmane who says (after being freed from Miquella's charm mind you) something like "It might make Jarren sad that Radahn isn't allowed to stay dead but I think it's good. More fighting opportunities suits Radahn better than death." So I reckon that his troops would probably be split 50/50 about it
@@Radditz770 She's on copium, as unless Miquella is LYING HIS CHEEKS OFF, his new age will have no place for a warrior like radahn, he's just madly in love with the consort.
@@wilburforce8046 Maybe she is :P But then I'd reckon that Radahn's troops being split 50/50 to be on Jarren's side or huffing copium, but they'd still be split
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I think it's neat that the Hornsent revere a horned lion god, but with Radahn reincarnated into Mohg's body, he essentially IS a horned lion god. Elden Ring is full of prophecies being fulfilled in unexpected ways, so it would be really funny if, all this time, the Hornsent were building their religion out of a prophecy of Radahn.
While an Elden Lord isn't a god, you raise a great point about the literal horns and the figurative lion creating an ironically appropriate boss for Enir-Ilim.
That is a necessary part of how prophecy functions in George Martin's writing. Whether it is Targaryen dragon dreams or visions seen in the flames by Red Priests of R'hllor - prophecy is always fulfilled in unexpected ways. A dramatic irony that lends itself to tragedy.
@@bluebird2217i also felt like there were some parallels between the horned warriors' movesets and radahn's, the dual wielding ones specifically had a similar feel to their combos
Weird to see how new Radahn is so overflowing with Grace, his eyes are literally GLOWING. Starscourge didn't lost his Grace, but his eyes don't glow as much...
Thats because Scarlet Rot is overtaking Starscourge. In his old eyes you see red creeping in (demigod's eyes are normally pale when without grace). Makes sense considering Rot is the other Outer God.
@@KolinarK I mean, we saw at least one dude who won the Grace by himself (Morgott) and even he wasn't glowing so brightly, new Radahn is basically in super Saiyan mode.
Imagine that. So our boy has Miquella announcing him that he wanted to be his consort before the Shattering (cutscene), after which Radahn, probably disgusted or uninteresed, walks away and gets Malenia on his ass to kill him so that he can be forced into being a consort. During the Shattering when their mother needed them the most. Meanwhile, Malenia who's been promised that she will get her curse cured after Miquella becomes a god, after a long time waiting, infects Radahm, nukes Caelid with mega AIDs that leaves the entire region under heavy radiation and evolves the entire life into miserably creatures, gets sent in a coma and is barely saved by her knights, goes to the Ephael, infects the tree and everyone there, waits for AGES until the Tarnished comes and beats her ass. Meanwhile, Miquella forced her brother Mohg to become his consort (fake but he doesn't know that lol), bathe him in gallons of blood, so that he can go in the Shadow Realm, destroy a bunch of shit there, then steal Mohg's body, desecrates it, forces his brother into it with all the horns and issues of it anyways, and then gets destroyed by the Tarnished... Imagine that...
I still feel bad for Mohg. 2 years of allegations, and he finally beat it after his death and the truth behind Miquella. Mohg would never be again without his flesh nor soul, but at least he was granted back his honor and dignity by Ansbach and you, who felled him.
Guys, he had the war surgeons brains removed and tampered with and tortured them to a degree they all went insane. Yeah, he wasn't a pedo, but he was on the worse side of demigods in terms of what he did.
I know he's supposed to be in his prime at the end, but I find Starscourge Radahn a hell of a lot more awesome, to hold the stars in place even as your mind is withering away and it takes a coalition of warriors to make a festival of war to give you an honorable death in combat.
Want to point out, this STILL isn't Radahn in his prime. Miquella stuffed his soul inside Mogh's body. He may be free of Scarlet Rot, but without Leonard and with the possibility that he may be under Miquella's charm, there's good odds that this is a stronger, but still not definitive Radahn fight.
@@TREVORVADERnot to mention that even if this was him in his own body it still wouldn't be prime Radahn. His armour and swords mentions how this is a younger Radahn before the feat of holding up the stars. Presumably prime Radahn would be the Radahn who fought Malenia
@@spacefaringyoshi I dont understand why anyone who want a "definitive" Radahn anyways. What I got from the fight was that it was _good_ for us that he was so fucked up- even with his body crippled from scarlet rot, losing his mind and spending a huge portion of his power to hold up the stars, it still required a small army of champions to finally take him down. A "definitive" Radahn would have essentially been unbeatable. Then again given the status of the fromsoft fanbase, there would still be some idiots defending an unbeatable boss.
Or Malenia and her army where attacking his feet you can actually see battle marks on his legs so its possible it's like this because of malenia or the rot rotted his feet away
I think it's says somewhere that he chopped his feet off to rely completely on the gravity magic so he could still have his horse with him but not crush it I think
@@gabeconrad7255 no it only says he learned gravity magic to still ride his horse Leonard which I presume he rode since his childhood or teenage years but no he didn't chop his feet off you don't need to chop a peice of your body to use gravity magic it's definitely either Because of Malenia and her army or because of the rot
Radahn: You want me back? After what you had your twin do to MY Caelid?! Are you crazy- Miquella: I'll give you the body of Godfrey's son. Radahn: You son of a bitch, I'm in.
@@rinoportier556 Actually more like: Radahn: "Leave me, Miquella. Let this Lion have his peace..." Miquella: "b my consort plz daddy" /hugs Radahn: "What are you...?! Ugh, I can't...!" *HEART STOLEN*
I noticed something: The engraving on each set of the swords. Starscourge variant's detailing seems more radial, almost as if it's showing Radahn projecting his magical power and control (of the stars), or as a depiction of his bestial might that showers in waves (possibly relating to his current state in an ironic sense as well). The Consort variant by comparison seems a lot more subdued. Almost as if his power and might, while still projecting out from the center, is chained or controlled. It also looks a lot more like traditional royal engravings, more sleek and elegant. Goes to show: no matter how well meaning Miquella was with his intentions, gilded chains are still chains.
It's a good theory! My personal take (based on the armor description after you beat them), is that the armor and swords used by the Promised Consort are the armaments used by a younger Radahn, before he became the Starscourge, and way before the Shattering.
funny you should mention gilded chains since Consort has literal golden chains adorning his set, while Starscourge does not. maybe you did that on purpose though LOL. either way, I'd say it speaks further to your point that the Radahn we find at the Divine Gate is not entirely there of his own free will
I thought the engravings on his new blades looked a lot like the golden threads Marika held up but i feel like this is a better/more complete interpretation
@@quint3ssent1a I disagree. Angron didn't have red hair or armor with horns on it. Magnus did. And let's not forget that, like Radahn, Magnus favored the sword, whereas Angron preferred axes.
No matter the form, Radahn has some heavy Doom Slayer aura between his standart expression and physical bulk, sheer might and badassery, complete silence, and love for animals.
Yeah, realized this when I saw more of his hair in the phase 2 cutscene. Can also spot more lion decals on the armor, showing how much he loves Godfrey.
I think his great rune made him even bigger than normal. Compare how big he was against Morgott vs how big he was against Malenia. Both were during the shattering but at the start and end I suppose.
Consort is meant to be more divine Also it would make sense that they put more focus on star scourge since it was in the publicity him and malenia where the faces of elden ring
I was sort of hoping there'd be a secret interaction if you start the battle using his Great Rune, like wearing Velstadt's helmet causes Raime to immediately aggro in DS2.
he does not have great rune, because great runes are parts of shattered eldent ring. that's why Messmer also does not have one, as he was sealed away in the realm of shadow before the shattering
Comparing the models like this makes a couple interesting comparisons. One: Radahn's appearance *and* armor changed some time after his conquest of the stars. Not only did he ostensibly pick up the bow, but he had his swords reforged to feature the gravitational web on them (not to mention their proportional changes). He also either began wearing full sleeves, or: Malenia's Scarlet Rot & the years of war/isolation caused his skin to become scaly. Honestly, given the state of the crows and Dogs in Caelid, the size difference & the skin being the way it is makes a lot of sense to attribute to the Rot. But by far the most fascinating (and beautiful) thing to me is that even on his deathbed, driven mad and enfeebled by Malenia's Rot, Radahn remained not just alive but *grace-given*. Look at his eyes. Dimmed, but still unmistakably gold. Honestly this fight really just heightened what a fucking legend Radahn is to not just be mighty enough to be Miquella's consort, mighty enough to potentially rival the likes of Godfrey and Radagon (Both King Consorts of "the old Order"), but strong enough to halt the progression of the stars to defy his fate and-- knowingly or not-- Ranni's, too (because remember, Radahn is also a Carian, whose fates are tied to the stars). Strong enough to STALEMATE Malenia the Severed and her Scarlet Aeonia, a biohazard of such terrifying self-propagation that it nearly overtook Limgrave, were it not for the burning walls the Redmanes set up. The ONLY reason Miquella ever received his Promised Consort is because the TARNISHED finally put Radahn out of his misery and allowed the stars to turn once more.
I just realized watching this, that Starscourge Radahn’s body is turning black-this could visually show how his body is necrotic from the rot-BUT upon multiple views he actually reminds me of an Onyx Lord in appearance 😨
@@kauaichan It does explain how Radahn still lived at the cost of becoming a raging animal with a hunger for the flesh of his fallen foes and comrades.
@@opusmagnus26 but we know the rot doesn’t necessarily kill, it changes them…he honestly is no different from the massive hounds/crows we see in Cealid….they’re not dying, but mutating. I think that’s the whole reason we put him out of his misery, because it wasn’t ever going to kill him. Mutate him beyond recognition, but unfortunately not lethal….like I originally thought Radahn got so large because his manipulation of gravity, but the size change is also due to the rot.
I can't help but feel Radahn at the end like this stands in for a Ganondorf expy. Miyazaki has stated he's often inspired by Zelda games. This feels like less of a coincidence here
@Giffsen I haven't played a Zelda game since the GameCube was available in stores. But I see a big bad guy with two large curved swords, grayish skin, and a large mane of red-orange hair, as a final boss, it feels like there's a few metaphors here. In my opinion of course
Ah shit yeah that would have been pretty cool, but I believe it would have broken theme with one-eyed characters being in contact with Outer Gods. Radahn never directly communed with any outer god.
Honestly the new look ain't half bad His size is a huge difference and something about his new pose is weird but the hair is really beautiful and those braids are really cool
The new pose is like an early 2000s video game model with a distinct "static animation." It really sort of drives home the point that Radahn at this point is like some sort of Frankenstein's monster with limited autonomy.
@@jhenxou4721 no he was always that big Like you are actually talking nonsense you are wrong He's smaller now cus it's mohg's body bit normally he was huge before the battle
@@itaysharf3207 There's also that shot of Morgott pinning down Radahn where Radahn appears to be much smaller than the Scarlet Rotten version we fought in the Festival, and the fact that his chair in Morgott's arena appears to be bigger, but much closer in size to the rest of the chairs, so there is some evidence that points to Radahn only growing to that size later on. Whether this was a result of his Great Rune which boosts health, stamina and mana, which could mean that his body literally grew to match the increase in vitality, or the Scarlet Rott mutating him is up for debate.
Radahn soul: nah I had an honorable death don't bring me back That not my body Miquella: But if you use this body you will truly become Godfrey son Radahn: Let me in ,QUICK
My guy had a cat and learned gravity magic just to ride his scrawny little horse. He's a massive softie and probably agreed to the promise if he was defeated in battle. (Which is why Malenia fought him in the first place)
@@cooldeer4811 Exactly. He stopped the stars and kept fighting as long as possible and had to be forcibly taken down by Malenia and the Tarnished (and a half dozen summons) before he would go on to be Miquella's puppet. Those don't seem like actions of someone who wants an "age of compassion" without war or fighting.
@@wellardsharks Agreed on the softie part when it comes to animals, but that doesn't mean he was down for being a zombie by Miquella. Which he ironically more or less became by Malenia.
As much as I do like consort Radahn we see in game, I still feel it was a missed opportunity to really show that this is Radahns soul in Moghs body. It should have been Mogh's Omen model that we fight, clad in Radahns armour and using his gravity magic. The small Omen horns sticking out weren't very clear to me imo
I think a better blend of both characters would’ve been to keep this model as is, but show Mohg’s signature omen horns on Radahns head. I think it was a missed opportunity to see Mohg’s horn shape peeking out of the red mane.
Radahn: umm Miquella, where is LEONARD?!?! Miquella: don't worry, you don't need him anymore. Radahn: but he is my weak trusty steed, the reason why I learn gravity magic. Miquella: you did not let me finish. You don't need him because you're my steed now, so let me ride you
It's kinda messed up how Miquella dressed him up in his old clothes, presumably the ones he wore when Miquella tried to make Radahn his consort. Edit: I have since realised it is even more messed up, just how did Miquella get that armour. Has he been hoarding Radahn's old clothes the whole time?
@@OnlySinusodial Miquella treats everyone like toys Including his sister that he watched nuke a continent for him, then put to sleep and abandoned entirely
My favorite character design detail is the use of twin braids in Radahn's hair; it's a motif originating in Marika, but abandoned by her in the Shaman Village. Since then it became associated with Miquella, and now appears in Radahn as his king consort--a feature he never had, not even in his youth. It's a childish, innocent hairstyle, and the fact that this frankenstein of Radahn is sporting them is such a compelling detail to me--it implies that the Radahn we see is one that Miquella curated, or manipulated, in his image.
I like your take on this, but I believe that Godfrey has a braid of hair in the front and the back, so the younger Radahn could be emulating that. Godfrey's beard is braided too.
@@TheMightyNovac ...It doesn't stand, because Godfrey and Radagon are characters that Radahn looked up to, giving a reason for him to wear braids in his youth lol. You were saying that they had to be due to Miquella's influence.
Radahn's soul being pulled to the world of the living: I told you that I don't want to go back, I already have my honorable warrior death. Miquella: but in this new body you will be able to do Godfrey's stomp. Radahn: oh sh*t, really? What are you waiting for? Bring me back. But hey, is this consort thing something platonic, right? like just to fullfil some legal stuff, but we are just bros, right? Miquella: yeah, sure... Just bros. *Mashes some Trina's lilies in a cup for Radahn.
What's even worse is that Radahn was probably trying to stay alive not because of his honor crap, but because of the fact that if he dies, he becomes a consort with no free will. Our boy was desperately trying to avoid it and we killed him
@@YourEmperorStef What's kind of eerie that no one seems to notice or talk about is that Consort Radahn is silent and ironically much less expressive than the rot-laden Starscourge Radahn. Miquella immediately mind controlled him to use as a meaty mecha suit rather than give him a chance to do or say anything as himself.
@@joshuakim5240 yeah true! Possibly! I also think it might be because they wanted to reduce the costs, as it would require extra animations and effort considering the ending is so underwhelming with no cutscenes besides that memory.
@@joshuakim5240 Miquella can't mind control 😂 It's influence. He's made Radahn fall in love with him. Radahn's actions are still his own. Same with Mohg and the kidnapping. They become infatuated, nothing more. What they do as a result is still their own actions.
Radahn cant be happy to be stuffed into Mohgs body. I like the Omen horns coming out if the Consort Radahns gauntlets. He is not even there, he is just a frankestein-like amalgamation created by Miquella to help him achieve his apotheosis.
He's 100% there. We don't know how he feels about Mohg's body, but Mohg's body was remade to be his younger self, so it's not an unfamiliar shell. All it has are a few horns. Freyja knew him very well personally and says this is what he'd want. A massive war to make the world more compassionate is pretty much ideal for him.
Also i'm shure a young Radahn wouldnt like to fight without Leonard at his side, this dude feels more like a Miquella Representation of Radahn than Radahn himself that is back to life, that would explains why he is mute and his weird pose
@@TREVORVADERMan, actual Prime Rahdan would be completely ridiculous. Like, imagine the Starscourge fight, but he has feet, attack patterns fast enough to draw with Malenia, and HP/damage output fitting for an endgame boss (seriously, how the fuck does getting hit by a goddamned gravity-enhanced telephone pole hurt *less* than getting shanked by some random dude in Leyndell?). Granted, a *lot* of From bosses become a lot more terrifying when you remove their crippling injuries/illnesses/corruption/etc (Gwyn in particular probably tipping the list), but Prime Rahdan in particular would make a lot of people quit.
@@jacksonscott3667 yeah I don’t ever wanna actually fight it. It would be a nightmare. Same with Placidusax with all his heads. Bro could probably 360 laser around his entire body.
I've come to terms with Radahn's return pretty well. And I like how his design looks so holy and perfect at first but then you see the cracks (or horns) start to show and you realize the horrific implications of it, just like Miquella's whole order. Even if Godwyn would've fit, he is soul-dead. I just wish some lore mentioned that he was Miquella's first choice or something and that the Mohg/Radahn solution was a plan B after Miquella failed to revive Godwyn's soul
The fact Miquella even tried to revive Godwyn’s soul does hint at that perhaps being the case, though I agree it would’ve been nice to have some real confirmation. Sadly, that just ain’t Miyazaki’s style.
I could be wrong, but I believe that there's a lot of threads in the base-game already that implied Miquella attempted (but failed to) bring back Godwyn's soul via the Eclipse, so I think this was a case of people not reading too deep into those aspects of the lore--assuming they would be expanded upon with the DLC. Same thing with the Gloam Eyed Queen; the base-game already has a ton of details to read into/extrapolate, and a full story to understand (a foil to Marika's early reign, killed by Maliketh, her servants remained to hunt the gods down, Rykard finds the clearly Gloam-related snake, appears to be a part of Melina, ect), but people were so hyped by her existance and aesthetics that they anticipated a battle or direct appearance--even though she is very clearly dead. The DLC introduces (in my opinion) some pretty direct clues to that story with the Base Serpent concept, but I think it was silly to expect her to show up as a huge boss, or a major character, when the reveal of Melina as Gloam Eyed takes place only after the story is already over, in only one of the endings. You GOT your Gloam Eyed Queen story in the base-game. Meanwhile, the DLC expands on beats that actually mattered; like the nature of spirits, Marika's backstory, the nature of the Omen Curse, and Elden John's ruins.
@@SeNki3301 The Remembrance from this final boss says Miquella admired Radahn from childhood, so I think he always meant Radahn to be his Consort because he was strong, brave and kind. Considering this info, I would say trying to revive Godwyn seemingly had nothing to do with any Consortship, it was just Miquella wanting his big bro back.
I just want to know why he didn't choose malenia. She basically already was a consort and a new body would cure her. Miquella abandoned his love so consort in this context doesn't mean romantic marriage.
Los detalles en ambas versiones son una locura, como en la versión resucitada que tiene los cuernos sobre saliendo en los brazos por haber usado el cuerpo de Moghwin
I wish they'd make consort radahn more of an amalgamatjon of both mohg and starscourge, it would've been more of a spectacle of what Miquella can really do, but instead it's just radahn with some omen horns spiking out of his gauntlets and one singular bloodflame attack. I did like the boss fight i just wish, design wise, he was just a tad darker and matched with the 'omen body stolen' theme, he should've been more akin to a monster imo.
"what Miquella can really do"? This IS what Miquella can really do, he wanted to bring Radahn back, he didn't want an amalgamation of them both. If he looks more like Radahn then it shows Miquella's prowess at shaping him more, not less. If he looked like both of them it would show sloppy craftsmanship.
I think it’s more telling how fucked Miquella is. So powerful that he can just about erase almost all of Moghs traces, effectively wiping his existence completely. No body, no soul, just small traces of him that can be easily missed
@@3th3r78 This is a reaaally good point to be fair, I'm just coping because I wanted something like Gael or Orphan of Kos to appear as the final boss, something horrific to tie together the dark/tragic story of Miquella's ascent to godhood, which is really me coping because no godwyn
@@FishWithLipstick Tbh this is really fucking horrific. The monster brianwashed and completely ruined Mogh, who according to Ansbach both in speech and world-building cues, was a honorable and just lord who took in the downtrodden. Before Miquellas influence, he had followers like Ansbach. After Miquella he had Varre and the creepy ass bloodmen living in bloodpools. Only reason he was collecting blood and sending bloody fingers to slaughter others was to collect blood for Miquella's cocoon. Miquella is obsessed about Radahn. When Radahn refused to become his consort, he sent his sister to kill him so he could get his hands on Radahn's soul and force him to obey. His sister literally nearly killed herself to fulfill his wishes.
I don't understand the people arguing that Radahn actually wanted to be Miquella's consort. Radahn is a warrior who idolizes Godfrey, reveres strength and honor and wanted a warrior's death, as honor would dictate. He chose to side with the Golden Order and actively took up the mantle of Starscourge to hold back the stars and prevent Ranni AND Miquella from achieving their goals. I can't fathom the argument I've seen people make that Radahn fully agreed to be Miquella's consort yet wanted to die first, for some reason? Miquella has enemies and plenty of things he hasn't charmed so its not like Radahn can't fight still. No, he joined the Order and held back the stars to stop people from doing what he disagreed with, directly impeding Ranni and Miquella for who knows how many years before we show up. Radahn clearly doesn't want this and is clearly under Miquella's puppet control, yet I continue to see people argue a consensual route of "alright I'll be your consort but first I want to die in honorable combat so send Malenia to kill me and then resurrect me so I can serve you and be a warmonger for your brainwashing future which goes directly against the honorable and noble strength lifestyle I've lived my entire for. Love you Miquella"
@@dgomezzzzz Morgott was never a member of any faction. He loved the Golden Order but at the same time was discarded by it cause of his Omen self. During the shattering he crowned himself King of Leyndell to protect the erdtree and the Golden Order itself. As his remembrance said he loved the Golden Order but was never loved in return. It is also implied that during the Shattering wars Radahn attacked Leyndell to become Elden Lord and since the picture of Morgott beating Radahn Shows Morgott hooded, most likely in his Margit persona, I would bet Morgott pulled a sneak attack on Radahn telling him to leave which Radahn obliged to. You gotta realize that the other demigods didn't really know much about the omen twins since they were cast into the sewers to keep them hidden, so Radahn possibly didn't even know who Morgott really was.
@@dgomezzzzz because everyone at that point was either fighting to defend themselves or fighting to gain control. Radahn is the mightiest demigod who loves war, it's not impossible for him to have decided to try it and fought Morgott, lost, and then went back to his side of the continent to regroup and defend itself. I also highly doubt an army led by Malenia is a secretive thing so he had to go on the defensive. His allegiance is to the Godfrey, his personal views, and the Golden Order, but it doesn't mean he has to side with everyone
1:25 can you get a clearer shot of the Starscourge cape imagery? In hindsight it looks suspiciously like Haligtree symbols, but there's probably half a dozen Erdtree or primeval current depictions which could also explain its origins.
@@are3287 Except it's not. The Rite Scroll spells it out quite clearly that Radahn needs to die as his soul requires a vessel and suicide is not something that would fit for Radahn as his a battle junkie and a warmonger so he most likely wanted Miquella to send Malenia to him so they can both have a big fight. Also he made a vow with Jerren so he kills him so either way for SOME reason Radahn wanted to die. And now we know the reason for it.
I think it's supposed to be a a tall, narrow Erdtree with a canopy full of seeds. Also, due to Liurnia and Sellia having some contact with the Nox, it might be inspired by the patterns on the Nox's gigantic thrones to boot.
consort radahn phase 1 is litteraly it you might say "but hes smaller" but then hes also in a omen's body (who are superior creatures in terms of strengh and magic)
@@idkwhattonameopentosugge-ng6cm actually no, consort radahn is probably not radahn himself but rather a puppet of Miquella prime Radahn would be something in his own body, riding Leonard and much bigger as we know Morgot defeated a young Radahn but prime Radahn isn't mentioned anywhere probably Malenia fought him and Scarlet Nuke couldn't even finish him off.
Miquella: Wanna be waifus UwU? Mohg: OMG YES! Hold up... why not my brother? *flashbacks* Miquella: Wanna be waifus UwU? Morgott: Thy kind are all of a piece. Have it written upon thy meagre grave...
young radahn when he fought the stars and won, Versus old man Radahn Starscourge the blighted heart; poor dude him, and mohg getting blindsided by the embodiment of Alabama, is just such a tragedy.
You know, Radhan being the chosen consort would explain why the haligtree has so much carian influence, from some weapons, to its aesthetic. They even got crystallians and those warrior sorcerers from caelid. It was Miquella making home for his lord. And thematically, having radhan and miq being associated with being broken by scarlet rot almost links them.
Me: ah yes this is it. Surely this last boss fight will be miquella in all his splendid glory. I mean surely all the lore points to this, right? Miyazaki: *prime radahns me into fucking oblivion*
The strarting frames of the transition of phase 1 are a reference to godfrey phase transition, but sort of inverted (Also the animation is inverted). When godfrey took off the grafted beast Serosh, divesting himself of what allowed him to become a lord, while in Radahn case he does the same thing Horah Loux did to become a lord, he and Miquella sort of graft together. And also thats what made me soil my pants when i first saw that, in base game we really see few examples of grafting, the scions and the revenants are no joke to mess around, specially the revenants. But in term of bosses we only had 2 examples, Godrick a frail little man seeking to steal the power of others so he can convience himself he is worthy of his bloodline, and Godfrey, that we can asume the graft sort of contain his strength so he would be capable of be a Lord. But in this case, Radahn and Miquella, you have plenty of reasons to fear both of them, and thats terrifying. Well the 2nd phase gave us a lot of reasons to fear it (Some hitbox are bullshit tho)
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You either die as a villain or your body exists long enough to become a vessel for your consort's boyfriend.
I think it was consensual atleast at first. Miquella wouldn't be desperate for Radahn to promise to be his consort in the ending if it wasn't.
@@extremwillpower6629if it was consensual, then why would miquella send malenia to fight him. Seems like radahn denied the request and a fight ensued. Miquellas whole thing is manipulation, so why would he be above manipulating his consort in one of his final steps.
@@cartierclips1126 That's why I said at first. Miquella seemed too desperate in that last cutscene for him to have been using manipulation. And besides, Miquella is a good person and hasn't really used that manipulation in a malicious way except against Mogh who's a murder cultist and us when he becomes a god after discarding all of his positive emotions.
Don't forget their technically Brothers as well since their mother is Marika
@@extremwillpower6629 miquella is far from good bro😂 his whole thing is manipulating while making himself seem like the good guy and it seems miquellas charm has worked on you too man
The fact that consort radahn has horns on his arms and legs because his body was originally mohgs is an awesome detail
Nah
Both have them
Its part of armor and not radhann
Thats false detail everybody hangs on
@@Bleilock1what kind of drugs are you taking?
@@Bleilock1you can see them coming straight out of his elbow
@@Bleilock1lol it’s poking out directly from his arms and he has blood flame attacks please use your eyes
@@Bleilock1 bro just played thru the game braindead
When i realized he was hitting the same pose on us as he did on Malenia i nearly shit myself
Same,and then he killed me in 3 seconds,it was awesome,my favorite boss fight ever tbh for me atleast,best 12 hours ever
@@GeneralRadahn7987 typical fromsoft fan hating a boss for ever until they beat it, then all of a sudden its the best
@@forkliftcertifed123 We play these games for that sweet stockholm syndrome bro
@@forkliftcertifed123 when did he say he hated it?
@@leeeshpoona6641 exactly,thanks
Damn you could land an Armored Core on that forehead
Enough for all 8 Furnace Golems to play hopscotch and jump rope on.
Looks like Robocop
All those Starspawns need place to land yo
Rhianna look out
@@bluemutt9964 That fuckin' cranium, that football helmet that she got on her fuckin' forehead.
I can imagine Radahn's troops who arranged the Radahn Festival would be something beyond furious at Miquella desecrating their beloved general.
One of Miquella's followers is an ex-Radahn redmane who says (after being freed from Miquella's charm mind you) something like "It might make Jarren sad that Radahn isn't allowed to stay dead but I think it's good. More fighting opportunities suits Radahn better than death." So I reckon that his troops would probably be split 50/50 about it
@@Radditz770 She's on copium, as unless Miquella is LYING HIS CHEEKS OFF, his new age will have no place for a warrior like radahn, he's just madly in love with the consort.
@@wilburforce8046 Maybe she is :P But then I'd reckon that Radahn's troops being split 50/50 to be on Jarren's side or huffing copium, but they'd still be split
Well, the only example of such was happy to have Radahn be brought back, so...
@@Radditz770 Jarren is the best npc base game. Absolutely based old man.
Hairline check!
we really got jack in here
Wow it’s Jacksepticeye. Haven’t watched this guy in years
Got that prince of Sayans hairline
What you doin here cutie😏
Top of the mornin' laddies
Age of Compassion means no more Balam Industries sponsored field trips which I will not tolerate.
I fully believe the Redguns and the Redmanes would be homies
*[G1 Michigan during a video call to G5 Iguazu after receiving a strange transmission]* "Err, Gun-5.........What in Rubicon's scorched ass is that kid doing riding on your AC's back? AND WHAT IN CORAL DOES HE MEAN HE WANTS TO BECOME GOD SO HE CAN END FIELD TRIPS?!"
@@Urd-Vidan so the carians are Arquebus?
@@salvatoreindelicato9368 both have blue pew pews, close enough
Lmfao
You know it's not the REAL Radahn in there when Leonard isn't by his side...
*Miquella hops on his back* Now Radahn is Leonard
@@DavidDevildriver SACRILEGE, Marika...Lamd of Gold this mfers *b a l l s*
@@DavidDevildriverconsider yourself an opp for using those goofy YT emojis
@@DavidDevildriver miquella doing the cowboy position with radahn
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*"Don't talk to me or my son ever again"*
LMAO
Seeing them together kind of made me want to see them solo every boss in the DLC+base game.
Or you can just say "Don't talk to me or my younger self ever again"
@@unameduser8860 But is not a younger self is the soul of radhan after festival stuck in an altered body of mohg .
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 like i should change the word like this?
"Don't talk to me or my idol's son's body ever again" or just "idol's son" i guess
I think it's neat that the Hornsent revere a horned lion god, but with Radahn reincarnated into Mohg's body, he essentially IS a horned lion god. Elden Ring is full of prophecies being fulfilled in unexpected ways, so it would be really funny if, all this time, the Hornsent were building their religion out of a prophecy of Radahn.
While an Elden Lord isn't a god, you raise a great point about the literal horns and the figurative lion creating an ironically appropriate boss for Enir-Ilim.
Interestingly the Hornsent warriors wield double curved swords and great curved swords while Radahn wields double great curved swords.
That is a necessary part of how prophecy functions in George Martin's writing. Whether it is Targaryen dragon dreams or visions seen in the flames by Red Priests of R'hllor - prophecy is always fulfilled in unexpected ways. A dramatic irony that lends itself to tragedy.
@@bluebird2217i also felt like there were some parallels between the horned warriors' movesets and radahn's, the dual wielding ones specifically had a similar feel to their combos
@@nightscout9979An Elden Lord is pretty close.
Weird to see how new Radahn is so overflowing with Grace, his eyes are literally GLOWING. Starscourge didn't lost his Grace, but his eyes don't glow as much...
Thats because Scarlet Rot is overtaking Starscourge. In his old eyes you see red creeping in (demigod's eyes are normally pale when without grace). Makes sense considering Rot is the other Outer God.
@@KolinarK I mean, we saw at least one dude who won the Grace by himself (Morgott) and even he wasn't glowing so brightly, new Radahn is basically in super Saiyan mode.
idk what to tell u. starscourge is literally rotten inside out. scarlet rot in his very pupils too.
He gave up Scarlet Rot and started snorting Grace
U realize, that's radhans soul in moghs body, the consort one
Let's summon up an F for the good people of Caelid, nuked because their lord was needed to piggyback a God.
F
Imagine that. So our boy has Miquella announcing him that he wanted to be his consort before the Shattering (cutscene), after which Radahn, probably disgusted or uninteresed, walks away and gets Malenia on his ass to kill him so that he can be forced into being a consort. During the Shattering when their mother needed them the most. Meanwhile, Malenia who's been promised that she will get her curse cured after Miquella becomes a god, after a long time waiting, infects Radahm, nukes Caelid with mega AIDs that leaves the entire region under heavy radiation and evolves the entire life into miserably creatures, gets sent in a coma and is barely saved by her knights, goes to the Ephael, infects the tree and everyone there, waits for AGES until the Tarnished comes and beats her ass. Meanwhile, Miquella forced her brother Mohg to become his consort (fake but he doesn't know that lol), bathe him in gallons of blood, so that he can go in the Shadow Realm, destroy a bunch of shit there, then steal Mohg's body, desecrates it, forces his brother into it with all the horns and issues of it anyways, and then gets destroyed by the Tarnished...
Imagine that...
F
F
F
I still feel bad for Mohg. 2 years of allegations, and he finally beat it after his death and the truth behind Miquella. Mohg would never be again without his flesh nor soul, but at least he was granted back his honor and dignity by Ansbach and you, who felled him.
Well he might have beat the mohglesting allegations, but he was still a weird evil guy who created a cult around the sentient lake of space blood
@@someonestolemyusername1636 Compared to all the other demigods, that's pretty normal
@@someonestolemyusername1636
Preferable to Miquella's Human Instrumentality Project
Or Shabriri's Human Instrumentality Project
@@someonestolemyusername1636He was a baby abandoned in sewers. Of course he would go insane and revere the first being to show affection towards him.
Guys, he had the war surgeons brains removed and tampered with and tortured them to a degree they all went insane. Yeah, he wasn't a pedo, but he was on the worse side of demigods in terms of what he did.
Consort: 😠
Starscourge: 😬
I like Starscourge better.
No bs sensual overload holy light spam in phase 2.
@@LawfulBased first patch radahn was one of the hardest boss FS has ever made
@@RecordedMercury yeah because his hitboxes where bs
Agreed, the only boss that defeated me so much that I had to go grind runes for vigor to at least survive one hit from him.
@@RecordedMercuryLies
I know he's supposed to be in his prime at the end, but I find Starscourge Radahn a hell of a lot more awesome, to hold the stars in place even as your mind is withering away and it takes a coalition of warriors to make a festival of war to give you an honorable death in combat.
Yeah this new just feels like such a downgrade overall
Want to point out, this STILL isn't Radahn in his prime. Miquella stuffed his soul inside Mogh's body.
He may be free of Scarlet Rot, but without Leonard and with the possibility that he may be under Miquella's charm, there's good odds that this is a stronger, but still not definitive Radahn fight.
@@spacefaringyoshi yeah he hardly feels like Radahn. He’s got a bunch of stolen attacks and doesn’t have his horse or his bow for that matter.
@@TREVORVADERnot to mention that even if this was him in his own body it still wouldn't be prime Radahn. His armour and swords mentions how this is a younger Radahn before the feat of holding up the stars. Presumably prime Radahn would be the Radahn who fought Malenia
@@spacefaringyoshi I dont understand why anyone who want a "definitive" Radahn anyways. What I got from the fight was that it was _good_ for us that he was so fucked up- even with his body crippled from scarlet rot, losing his mind and spending a huge portion of his power to hold up the stars, it still required a small army of champions to finally take him down. A "definitive" Radahn would have essentially been unbeatable.
Then again given the status of the fromsoft fanbase, there would still be some idiots defending an unbeatable boss.
The modeled musculature on his arms is very impressive. I see why Miquella wanted to get manhandled for eternity
yeah i mean of all the demigods Radahn is up there on the hit list
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6'0 Vs. 5'11
Statue vs action figure.
As someone who attends the diddy party and hits the griddy, I agree.
If this is indeed Mohg's body then he truly still inherits Godfrey's gigachadness
Just needed to work out probably.
What does that say about Morgott who died emancipated?
Mohg if he got off the cursed blood and started working out.
@@chairmajesty3514 morgott was obviously a gooner
@@chairmajesty3514 Emaciated you mean?
I like that this confirms that Radahns feet were turned into knubs by being dragged across caelids desert by Leonard
Or Malenia and her army where attacking his feet you can actually see battle marks on his legs so its possible it's like this because of malenia or the rot rotted his feet away
@@AALion2004possibly. She went for a the feat, the greatest weakness of tall and big men.
I think it's says somewhere that he chopped his feet off to rely completely on the gravity magic so he could still have his horse with him but not crush it I think
@@gabeconrad7255 no it only says he learned gravity magic to still ride his horse Leonard which I presume he rode since his childhood or teenage years but no he didn't chop his feet off you don't need to chop a peice of your body to use gravity magic it's definitely either Because of Malenia and her army or because of the rot
I always assumed they just rotted away from the scarlet rot
Radahn: You want me back? After what you had your twin do to MY Caelid?! Are you crazy-
Miquella: I'll give you the body of Godfrey's son.
Radahn: You son of a bitch, I'm in.
a godfrey fanboy till the very end.
“You mean I’ll technically be blood-related to THE Godfrey, first Elden Lord!? Fuck you, twink, I’m in!”
Nah, more like:
Miquella: I'll stay on your shoulders so we'll look like Godfrey and Serosh
Radahn: You son of a bitch! I'm in!
@@rinoportier556 Actually more like:
Radahn: "Leave me, Miquella. Let this Lion have his peace..."
Miquella: "b my consort plz daddy" /hugs
Radahn: "What are you...?! Ugh, I can't...!" *HEART STOLEN*
Realistically I'm sure he's using his powers to control him, but I also like the idea that he's coercing Radahn
I noticed something: The engraving on each set of the swords. Starscourge variant's detailing seems more radial, almost as if it's showing Radahn projecting his magical power and control (of the stars), or as a depiction of his bestial might that showers in waves (possibly relating to his current state in an ironic sense as well).
The Consort variant by comparison seems a lot more subdued. Almost as if his power and might, while still projecting out from the center, is chained or controlled. It also looks a lot more like traditional royal engravings, more sleek and elegant.
Goes to show: no matter how well meaning Miquella was with his intentions, gilded chains are still chains.
Great interpretation!
It's a good theory!
My personal take (based on the armor description after you beat them), is that the armor and swords used by the Promised Consort are the armaments used by a younger Radahn, before he became the Starscourge, and way before the Shattering.
funny you should mention gilded chains since Consort has literal golden chains adorning his set, while Starscourge does not. maybe you did that on purpose though LOL. either way, I'd say it speaks further to your point that the Radahn we find at the Divine Gate is not entirely there of his own free will
Starscourge's engravings are actually based on the Gravitational Pull of the planet. Very cool stuff when you look at it deep enough.
I thought the engravings on his new blades looked a lot like the golden threads Marika held up but i feel like this is a better/more complete interpretation
Now I just noticed that the white fur coming out of the Star Scourge Radahn armor is Actually Fungus
It seems that some is fungus and some is white fur trim, as his shoulder-pieces still have the fur in his Consort form.
it's strands of semen
@@randomoinkbomb it all makes sense now that we know that Miquella Literally Brain Raped our Boy Radahn 😔
Sorry to burst your bubble but in gaglimoosh’s book it confirms that it’s actually strings of semen
@@bigbuster1090The what
I just realized that Consort Radahn, given his armor and hair, kinda looks like Magnus the Red.
Nah, more like Angron. Magnus was one-eyed freak and had red skin.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought he looked like Magnus.
@@quint3ssent1a
I disagree. Angron didn't have red hair or armor with horns on it. Magnus did. And let's not forget that, like Radahn, Magnus favored the sword, whereas Angron preferred axes.
Angron is bald looking this looks like magnus
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158
I thought Angron had dreadlocks.
No matter the form, Radahn has some heavy Doom Slayer aura between his standart expression and physical bulk, sheer might and badassery, complete silence, and love for animals.
its good to know even the strongest demigod can't combat male pattern baldness
ngl consort radahn looks like some buffed dude cosplaying as radahn lol
that is because it literally just is
you can see mohg's horns in his arms its nearly a perfect merging of soul and body
Tbf this is probably what he used to look like just bigger
@@TryinaD
His great rune says he underwent changes after acquiring it so he probably looked something like this at some point.
@@yurifairy2969 yup, I was thinking this was the size he was pre-rune, when he could still ride Leonard normally
@@TryinaD Riding Leonard at that size is still crazy lol
i like that young radahns hair resembles godfreys hair a bit
yeah, he was proud if his Father's red hair, but he also worshipped Godfrey, so it's cool he kinda styled it similarly
Yeah, realized this when I saw more of his hair in the phase 2 cutscene. Can also spot more lion decals on the armor, showing how much he loves Godfrey.
Of course, they used Morg body : this is why he’s smaller !!
Thank god, otherwise we would have to fight the camera aswell 🙃
@@BoaeCH You still have to 😢
Well, according to lore he wasn't always that big he just continue to grow
and he have horn on his body too
I think his great rune made him even bigger than normal. Compare how big he was against Morgott vs how big he was against Malenia. Both were during the shattering but at the start and end I suppose.
The starscourage design feels more unique,especially with leonard
Consort is meant to be more divine
Also it would make sense that they put more focus on star scourge since it was in the publicity him and malenia where the faces of elden ring
Thats why miquella Lost, he don't bringed Leonard back, True Radahn wouldnt left his bro horse for Miquella
@@LaloBalteus True, Radahn was only at half power without Leonard, and Miquella wasn't a sufficient substitute
Important to note, I believe, that Consort Radahn has no great rune. He’s probably smaller because we took it from him before the events of the DLC
I was sort of hoping there'd be a secret interaction if you start the battle using his Great Rune, like wearing Velstadt's helmet causes Raime to immediately aggro in DS2.
That's not his body.
He's smaller cuz it's mohgs body
he does not have great rune, because great runes are parts of shattered eldent ring. that's why Messmer also does not have one, as he was sealed away in the realm of shadow before the shattering
@@shaded3695 That's doesn't make sense though, he is significantly larger than Mohg.
Comparing the models like this makes a couple interesting comparisons. One: Radahn's appearance *and* armor changed some time after his conquest of the stars. Not only did he ostensibly pick up the bow, but he had his swords reforged to feature the gravitational web on them (not to mention their proportional changes).
He also either began wearing full sleeves, or: Malenia's Scarlet Rot & the years of war/isolation caused his skin to become scaly. Honestly, given the state of the crows and Dogs in Caelid, the size difference & the skin being the way it is makes a lot of sense to attribute to the Rot.
But by far the most fascinating (and beautiful) thing to me is that even on his deathbed, driven mad and enfeebled by Malenia's Rot, Radahn remained not just alive but *grace-given*. Look at his eyes. Dimmed, but still unmistakably gold.
Honestly this fight really just heightened what a fucking legend Radahn is to not just be mighty enough to be Miquella's consort, mighty enough to potentially rival the likes of Godfrey and Radagon (Both King Consorts of "the old Order"), but strong enough to halt the progression of the stars to defy his fate and-- knowingly or not-- Ranni's, too (because remember, Radahn is also a Carian, whose fates are tied to the stars). Strong enough to STALEMATE Malenia the Severed and her Scarlet Aeonia, a biohazard of such terrifying self-propagation that it nearly overtook Limgrave, were it not for the burning walls the Redmanes set up.
The ONLY reason Miquella ever received his Promised Consort is because the TARNISHED finally put Radahn out of his misery and allowed the stars to turn once more.
I just realized watching this, that Starscourge Radahn’s body is turning black-this could visually show how his body is necrotic from the rot-BUT upon multiple views he actually reminds me of an Onyx Lord in appearance 😨
His Great Rune also straight up burns him, his skin is charred
@@Morrov I know his rune is literally burning but I never even considered it was burning HIM….a grim thought but I think your right as well 😢
@@kauaichan It does explain how Radahn still lived at the cost of becoming a raging animal with a hunger for the flesh of his fallen foes and comrades.
@@opusmagnus26 but we know the rot doesn’t necessarily kill, it changes them…he honestly is no different from the massive hounds/crows we see in Cealid….they’re not dying, but mutating. I think that’s the whole reason we put him out of his misery, because it wasn’t ever going to kill him. Mutate him beyond recognition, but unfortunately not lethal….like I originally thought Radahn got so large because his manipulation of gravity, but the size change is also due to the rot.
He looked like that before Malenia Aeonia'd him, so I assumed it was his magic transforming him.
The grace of gold never left Radans eyes
The fact that he just looks like a normal guy makes the eating corpses much creepier.
I can't help but feel Radahn at the end like this stands in for a Ganondorf expy. Miyazaki has stated he's often inspired by Zelda games. This feels like less of a coincidence here
Now that I think about it, the fact that Gaius rides a Boar makes the connection with Ganon even stronger.
General Radorhf
Zelda fans see any other game doing a thing: "Uhhh this gives me Zelda vibes"
At least Elden Ring is being compared to something else than Berserk for once 😆
@Giffsen I haven't played a Zelda game since the GameCube was available in stores. But I see a big bad guy with two large curved swords, grayish skin, and a large mane of red-orange hair, as a final boss, it feels like there's a few metaphors here. In my opinion of course
I can't unsee the fact that apparently Radahn has a receding hairline
It's the insane amount of testosterone coursing through his body
I think the devs just didn't render hair there due to the helmet....
Or maybe that's why he wears a helmet 😂
@@jamiekeane471 or maybe the hair is in the helmet
He put them on his helmet
Dude got a gallon of t flowing through him at any given time
I would have liked if Mohg’s body still were missing a eye
YES I was hoping they’d do that and they didn’t, I was so disappointed lol
Plus that would make him look like Guts
Ah shit yeah that would have been pretty cool, but I believe it would have broken theme with one-eyed characters being in contact with Outer Gods. Radahn never directly communed with any outer god.
It would have been cool but narratively didn't fit
@@lopamurblamo Huh, good catch, I never thought to associate Mohg's stabbed eye with the one-eyed aesthetic we generally see with the empyreans
Honestly the new look ain't half bad
His size is a huge difference and something about his new pose is weird but the hair is really beautiful and those braids are really cool
The new pose is like an early 2000s video game model with a distinct "static animation." It really sort of drives home the point that Radahn at this point is like some sort of Frankenstein's monster with limited autonomy.
@@ibooferHe reminds me of Kratos
his size is different because that's what scarlet can do. it monsterfies all the animals in caelid, just like how it monsterfied radahn
@@jhenxou4721 no he was always that big
Like you are actually talking nonsense you are wrong
He's smaller now cus it's mohg's body bit normally he was huge before the battle
@@itaysharf3207 There's also that shot of Morgott pinning down Radahn where Radahn appears to be much smaller than the Scarlet Rotten version we fought in the Festival, and the fact that his chair in Morgott's arena appears to be bigger, but much closer in size to the rest of the chairs, so there is some evidence that points to Radahn only growing to that size later on. Whether this was a result of his Great Rune which boosts health, stamina and mana, which could mean that his body literally grew to match the increase in vitality, or the Scarlet Rott mutating him is up for debate.
Radahn soul: nah I had an honorable death don't bring me back That not my body
Miquella: But if you use this body you will truly become Godfrey son
Radahn: Let me in ,QUICK
without his cape, Radahn looks like he belongs in Fist of the North Star
There is no possible way this guy was willingly down for an "age of compassion" - dude was a warrior through and through. Miquella truly is a monster.
My guy had a cat and learned gravity magic just to ride his scrawny little horse. He's a massive softie and probably agreed to the promise if he was defeated in battle. (Which is why Malenia fought him in the first place)
@@wellardsharksMiquella purposely sent Malenia so she could kill Radahn and he then would take his soul
Which is why Miquella must take his soul first
@@cooldeer4811 Exactly. He stopped the stars and kept fighting as long as possible and had to be forcibly taken down by Malenia and the Tarnished (and a half dozen summons) before he would go on to be Miquella's puppet. Those don't seem like actions of someone who wants an "age of compassion" without war or fighting.
@@wellardsharks Agreed on the softie part when it comes to animals, but that doesn't mean he was down for being a zombie by Miquella. Which he ironically more or less became by Malenia.
His biceps and triceps muscle definition looks really impressive
You either die a badass, or live long enough to become a femboys consort. No in between
Still a badass then?
My man has that Vegetta Hairline 💀
Vey Gettah
He's finally small enough to ride Leonard without gravity magic!
As much as I do like consort Radahn we see in game, I still feel it was a missed opportunity to really show that this is Radahns soul in Moghs body.
It should have been Mogh's Omen model that we fight, clad in Radahns armour and using his gravity magic. The small Omen horns sticking out weren't very clear to me imo
I mean he does also use blood incantations
Also radahn with mogh proportions would probably look goofy af
There might be fan art or even concept art depicting that very look. This version just conveys exactly that he has been reincarnated
He's the same height as Mohg now and has Mohg's horns. What more do you want?
Why does the body look identical to Radahn if it's supposed to be mohg's body anyway
I think a better blend of both characters would’ve been to keep this model as is, but show Mohg’s signature omen horns on Radahns head. I think it was a missed opportunity to see Mohg’s horn shape peeking out of the red mane.
I didn't realize the horns on his forearms were part of his body. I thought they were just on his gauntlets. That is unsettling given the lore.
The Moghlester was the Moghlested the whole time
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Bro pulled off a reverse Michael Jackson when getting rooted, and then a normal Michael Jackson when entering Mohg
腕や足から角が生えてるからモーグの体を使ってラダーンを再現したってのが分かるの凝ってるなぁ
0:55 GODLY FOREHEAD made him powerful
Radahn: umm Miquella, where is LEONARD?!?!
Miquella: don't worry, you don't need him anymore.
Radahn: but he is my weak trusty steed, the reason why I learn gravity magic.
Miquella: you did not let me finish. You don't need him because you're my steed now, so let me ride you
His face looks like Agent 47 took Radahn's armor to blend in...
It's kinda messed up how Miquella dressed him up in his old clothes, presumably the ones he wore when Miquella tried to make Radahn his consort.
Edit: I have since realised it is even more messed up, just how did Miquella get that armour. Has he been hoarding Radahn's old clothes the whole time?
Yup, miquella Is a freak
Yeah this is seriously disturbing, it's like Radahn is Miquellas new Kent barbie doll and he can dress him up however he wants :(
@@OnlySinusodial
Miquella treats everyone like toys
Including his sister that he watched nuke a continent for him, then put to sleep and abandoned entirely
This might legitimately be the most fucked up thing ever depicted in a FromSoft game
@@niall_sandersonnot even close, the entirety of bloodborne exists
My favorite character design detail is the use of twin braids in Radahn's hair; it's a motif originating in Marika, but abandoned by her in the Shaman Village. Since then it became associated with Miquella, and now appears in Radahn as his king consort--a feature he never had, not even in his youth.
It's a childish, innocent hairstyle, and the fact that this frankenstein of Radahn is sporting them is such a compelling detail to me--it implies that the Radahn we see is one that Miquella curated, or manipulated, in his image.
I like your take on this, but I believe that Godfrey has a braid of hair in the front and the back, so the younger Radahn could be emulating that. Godfrey's beard is braided too.
Godfrey and Radagon had braided hair too.
@@dadevi That's true--and they're both subordinate/conjoined to Marika, so the principle stands.
@@TheMightyNovac ...It doesn't stand, because Godfrey and Radagon are characters that Radahn looked up to, giving a reason for him to wear braids in his youth lol. You were saying that they had to be due to Miquella's influence.
@@TheMightyNovac what? they are subordinates so their hair is braided? wtf
He's got a bit of Godfrey, Marika, Radagon, and Rennala in him now.
No wonder he'd be the strongest😂
Also got a bit of Miquella in him, too, based on their "hug" placement.
>Now he’s got a bit of GRRM in him now
But can he finish the Winds of Winter?
Radahn's soul being pulled to the world of the living: I told you that I don't want to go back, I already have my honorable warrior death.
Miquella: but in this new body you will be able to do Godfrey's stomp.
Radahn: oh sh*t, really? What are you waiting for? Bring me back. But hey, is this consort thing something platonic, right? like just to fullfil some legal stuff, but we are just bros, right?
Miquella: yeah, sure... Just bros. *Mashes some Trina's lilies in a cup for Radahn.
What's even worse is that Radahn was probably trying to stay alive not because of his honor crap, but because of the fact that if he dies, he becomes a consort with no free will. Our boy was desperately trying to avoid it and we killed him
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What's kind of eerie that no one seems to notice or talk about is that Consort Radahn is silent and ironically much less expressive than the rot-laden Starscourge Radahn. Miquella immediately mind controlled him to use as a meaty mecha suit rather than give him a chance to do or say anything as himself.
@@joshuakim5240 yeah true! Possibly! I also think it might be because they wanted to reduce the costs, as it would require extra animations and effort considering the ending is so underwhelming with no cutscenes besides that memory.
@@YourEmperorStef Dude, what part says he has no free will? That's objectively incorrect.
@@joshuakim5240 Miquella can't mind control 😂
It's influence. He's made Radahn fall in love with him. Radahn's actions are still his own. Same with Mohg and the kidnapping. They become infatuated, nothing more. What they do as a result is still their own actions.
Consort Radahn is like a Funko Pop version of him
Someone needs to animate Starscourge picking up Consort and playing with him like Patrick did Squidward in that episode where Spongebob shrunk him.
that's the thing, isn't it? It's Miquella's idealized version of him when they were young
I think somebody mentioned it already or not but you can just SEE Consort Radahn's eyes are overflowing with grace
Radahn cant be happy to be stuffed into Mohgs body. I like the Omen horns coming out if the Consort Radahns gauntlets. He is not even there, he is just a frankestein-like amalgamation created by Miquella to help him achieve his apotheosis.
I think, with Miquella ascending and being a literal god, this was a true resurrection, and not just some necromancy.
@@LeoStep93yup, he was alive again, but just in a new casing and hardware
He's 100% there. We don't know how he feels about Mohg's body, but Mohg's body was remade to be his younger self, so it's not an unfamiliar shell. All it has are a few horns. Freyja knew him very well personally and says this is what he'd want. A massive war to make the world more compassionate is pretty much ideal for him.
@@BulldogFromHell Na-ah. He does not say a word. Not a grunt, nothing, even while you fight him. Freyja is brainwashed just like the rest.
Also i'm shure a young Radahn wouldnt like to fight without Leonard at his side, this dude feels more like a Miquella Representation of Radahn than Radahn himself that is back to life, that would explains why he is mute and his weird pose
Just goes to show how much of an absolute unit Starscourge Radahn was. I only know one Radahn, and it is the general and the conqueror of the stars.
Yeah I’m honestly completely fine with treating Consort Radahn like it didn’t happen. Bro is such a downgrade in every way
@@TREVORVADERMan, actual Prime Rahdan would be completely ridiculous. Like, imagine the Starscourge fight, but he has feet, attack patterns fast enough to draw with Malenia, and HP/damage output fitting for an endgame boss (seriously, how the fuck does getting hit by a goddamned gravity-enhanced telephone pole hurt *less* than getting shanked by some random dude in Leyndell?).
Granted, a *lot* of From bosses become a lot more terrifying when you remove their crippling injuries/illnesses/corruption/etc (Gwyn in particular probably tipping the list), but Prime Rahdan in particular would make a lot of people quit.
@@jacksonscott3667 yeah I don’t ever wanna actually fight it. It would be a nightmare. Same with Placidusax with all his heads. Bro could probably 360 laser around his entire body.
A ferocious warrior!
this breaks my heart on so many levels. my boy deserved better.
Interesting that radahn has the tiniest hint of an omen curse. (And looks like patches lmao)
I reallly love both literally my favorite boss in entire Elden Ring and its dlc
I've come to terms with Radahn's return pretty well. And I like how his design looks so holy and perfect at first but then you see the cracks (or horns) start to show and you realize the horrific implications of it, just like Miquella's whole order.
Even if Godwyn would've fit, he is soul-dead. I just wish some lore mentioned that he was Miquella's first choice or something and that the Mohg/Radahn solution was a plan B after Miquella failed to revive Godwyn's soul
The fact Miquella even tried to revive Godwyn’s soul does hint at that perhaps being the case, though I agree it would’ve been nice to have some real confirmation. Sadly, that just ain’t Miyazaki’s style.
I could be wrong, but I believe that there's a lot of threads in the base-game already that implied Miquella attempted (but failed to) bring back Godwyn's soul via the Eclipse, so I think this was a case of people not reading too deep into those aspects of the lore--assuming they would be expanded upon with the DLC.
Same thing with the Gloam Eyed Queen; the base-game already has a ton of details to read into/extrapolate, and a full story to understand (a foil to Marika's early reign, killed by Maliketh, her servants remained to hunt the gods down, Rykard finds the clearly Gloam-related snake, appears to be a part of Melina, ect), but people were so hyped by her existance and aesthetics that they anticipated a battle or direct appearance--even though she is very clearly dead.
The DLC introduces (in my opinion) some pretty direct clues to that story with the Base Serpent concept, but I think it was silly to expect her to show up as a huge boss, or a major character, when the reveal of Melina as Gloam Eyed takes place only after the story is already over, in only one of the endings.
You GOT your Gloam Eyed Queen story in the base-game. Meanwhile, the DLC expands on beats that actually mattered; like the nature of spirits, Marika's backstory, the nature of the Omen Curse, and Elden John's ruins.
@@SeNki3301 The Remembrance from this final boss says Miquella admired Radahn from childhood, so I think he always meant Radahn to be his Consort because he was strong, brave and kind. Considering this info, I would say trying to revive Godwyn seemingly had nothing to do with any Consortship, it was just Miquella wanting his big bro back.
I just want to know why he didn't choose malenia. She basically already was a consort and a new body would cure her. Miquella abandoned his love so consort in this context doesn't mean romantic marriage.
@@SmartCreeper Maybe Lord Consorts can't be Empyrians as well 🤔
From Scarlet Rot Zombie to Creepy Stepbrother's Zombie Husband
Radahn and Mohg deserved better
1:59 a cape really does wonders
The fact that this version of radahn has his hair vowen at the back of his head like radagon is an awesome detail.
Godfrey hairstyle
i like how now you can see how much bigger radahns great rune really made him. also i didn’t realize radahn was agent 47
Radahn did the lookmaxxing thing.
Los detalles en ambas versiones son una locura, como en la versión resucitada que tiene los cuernos sobre saliendo en los brazos por haber usado el cuerpo de Moghwin
Só corrigindo um detalhe: o semideus em questão se chama Mohg. Mohgwyn é o nome da dinastia que ele estava criando junto com o cadáver de Miquella.
The Mohglester's redemption
An interesting detail: when poise broken, the animation is the exact same as Mohg
The cranium on this man is insane. Damn you Miquella lol
I wish they'd make consort radahn more of an amalgamatjon of both mohg and starscourge, it would've been more of a spectacle of what Miquella can really do, but instead it's just radahn with some omen horns spiking out of his gauntlets and one singular bloodflame attack. I did like the boss fight i just wish, design wise, he was just a tad darker and matched with the 'omen body stolen' theme, he should've been more akin to a monster imo.
My exact thoughts
"what Miquella can really do"? This IS what Miquella can really do, he wanted to bring Radahn back, he didn't want an amalgamation of them both. If he looks more like Radahn then it shows Miquella's prowess at shaping him more, not less.
If he looked like both of them it would show sloppy craftsmanship.
I think it’s more telling how fucked Miquella is. So powerful that he can just about erase almost all of Moghs traces, effectively wiping his existence completely. No body, no soul, just small traces of him that can be easily missed
@@3th3r78 This is a reaaally good point to be fair, I'm just coping because I wanted something like Gael or Orphan of Kos to appear as the final boss, something horrific to tie together the dark/tragic story of Miquella's ascent to godhood, which is really me coping because no godwyn
@@FishWithLipstick Tbh this is really fucking horrific. The monster brianwashed and completely ruined Mogh, who according to Ansbach both in speech and world-building cues, was a honorable and just lord who took in the downtrodden. Before Miquellas influence, he had followers like Ansbach. After Miquella he had Varre and the creepy ass bloodmen living in bloodpools. Only reason he was collecting blood and sending bloody fingers to slaughter others was to collect blood for Miquella's cocoon.
Miquella is obsessed about Radahn. When Radahn refused to become his consort, he sent his sister to kill him so he could get his hands on Radahn's soul and force him to obey. His sister literally nearly killed herself to fulfill his wishes.
Well at least Consort Radahn doesn't look like a cartoon character with these weird ass proportions
from a chad to buckbroken...
The omen horns are very subtle
He's not mohg enough, should have given his wings to give trauma to players 😂
What a god damn legendary fight. Love the music, the attacks are insane. Perfect
I do find it funny they had to confirm his red hair was indeed his, and not his helmet.
I don't understand the people arguing that Radahn actually wanted to be Miquella's consort.
Radahn is a warrior who idolizes Godfrey, reveres strength and honor and wanted a warrior's death, as honor would dictate. He chose to side with the Golden Order and actively took up the mantle of Starscourge to hold back the stars and prevent Ranni AND Miquella from achieving their goals.
I can't fathom the argument I've seen people make that Radahn fully agreed to be Miquella's consort yet wanted to die first, for some reason? Miquella has enemies and plenty of things he hasn't charmed so its not like Radahn can't fight still. No, he joined the Order and held back the stars to stop people from doing what he disagreed with, directly impeding Ranni and Miquella for who knows how many years before we show up. Radahn clearly doesn't want this and is clearly under Miquella's puppet control, yet I continue to see people argue a consensual route of "alright I'll be your consort but first I want to die in honorable combat so send Malenia to kill me and then resurrect me so I can serve you and be a warmonger for your brainwashing future which goes directly against the honorable and noble strength lifestyle I've lived my entire for. Love you Miquella"
If he sided with the golden order, why did he fight Morgott and why does Morgott call him a traitor? I am not so sure
@@dgomezzzzz Morgott was never a member of any faction. He loved the Golden Order but at the same time was discarded by it cause of his Omen self.
During the shattering he crowned himself King of Leyndell to protect the erdtree and the Golden Order itself. As his remembrance said he loved the Golden Order but was never loved in return. It is also implied that during the Shattering wars Radahn attacked Leyndell to become Elden Lord and since the picture of Morgott beating Radahn Shows Morgott hooded, most likely in his Margit persona, I would bet Morgott pulled a sneak attack on Radahn telling him to leave which Radahn obliged to.
You gotta realize that the other demigods didn't really know much about the omen twins since they were cast into the sewers to keep them hidden, so Radahn possibly didn't even know who Morgott really was.
@@dgomezzzzz because everyone at that point was either fighting to defend themselves or fighting to gain control. Radahn is the mightiest demigod who loves war, it's not impossible for him to have decided to try it and fought Morgott, lost, and then went back to his side of the continent to regroup and defend itself. I also highly doubt an army led by Malenia is a secretive thing so he had to go on the defensive. His allegiance is to the Godfrey, his personal views, and the Golden Order, but it doesn't mean he has to side with everyone
1:25 can you get a clearer shot of the Starscourge cape imagery? In hindsight it looks suspiciously like Haligtree symbols, but there's probably half a dozen Erdtree or primeval current depictions which could also explain its origins.
It is indeed the Heiligtree/Miquella's symbol on both.
@@FaeQueenCory So that confirms it. Mister Radahn step away from that child and take a Seat.
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He didnt want to go through with it though, thats the whole reason he fought Malenia. Inconcensual.
@@are3287 Except it's not. The Rite Scroll spells it out quite clearly that Radahn needs to die as his soul requires a vessel and suicide is not something that would fit for Radahn as his a battle junkie and a warmonger so he most likely wanted Miquella to send Malenia to him so they can both have a big fight. Also he made a vow with Jerren so he kills him so either way for SOME reason Radahn wanted to die. And now we know the reason for it.
I think it's supposed to be a a tall, narrow Erdtree with a canopy full of seeds. Also, due to Liurnia and Sellia having some contact with the Nox, it might be inspired by the patterns on the Nox's gigantic thrones to boot.
It's incredible to think that we still don't know how a full power radahn in his right state of mind fights
consort radahn phase 1 is litteraly it
you might say "but hes smaller" but then hes also in a omen's body (who are superior creatures in terms of strengh and magic)
@@idkwhattonameopentosugge-ng6cm he is still being mind controlled by miquella tho
Yeah he doesnt have his beloved steed Leonard in the dlc fight. Miquella isnt even trying to imitate or care for Radahn.
@@idkwhattonameopentosugge-ng6cm actually no, consort radahn is probably not radahn himself but rather a puppet of Miquella prime Radahn would be something in his own body, riding Leonard and much bigger as we know Morgot defeated a young Radahn but prime Radahn isn't mentioned anywhere probably Malenia fought him and Scarlet Nuke couldn't even finish him off.
Or full power Leonard
Holy crap, I never noticed that Starscourge straight-up doesn’t have feet. It makes perfect sense for him to rely on Leonard for mobility.
Yeah it seems like scarlet rot eats your limbs. Millicent lost her arm. Malenia lost her arm and lower legs, as well as her eyes so she is blind.
Looking at his face, he reminds me of Doomguy. And it just feels right.
Miquella: Wanna be waifus UwU?
Mohg: OMG YES! Hold up... why not my brother?
*flashbacks*
Miquella: Wanna be waifus UwU?
Morgott: Thy kind are all of a piece. Have it written upon thy meagre grave...
young radahn when he fought the stars and won, Versus old man Radahn Starscourge the blighted heart; poor dude him, and mohg getting blindsided by the embodiment of Alabama, is just such a tragedy.
You know, Radhan being the chosen consort would explain why the haligtree has so much carian influence, from some weapons, to its aesthetic. They even got crystallians and those warrior sorcerers from caelid. It was Miquella making home for his lord. And thematically, having radhan and miq being associated with being broken by scarlet rot almost links them.
Thank you for these amazing deep dives. I don't think anybody could see even half these details given how fast the fight goes
Starscourge: 😠
Consort: 🤫🧏
Interesting, with the chains around his arms, it's almost like he's a caged lion.
Name brand Radahn vs Temu Radahn
I hadn't even noticed that the cutscene in Enir Ilim was the same as the animation in the story trailer! That's really cool!
Me: ah yes this is it. Surely this last boss fight will be miquella in all his splendid glory. I mean surely all the lore points to this, right?
Miyazaki: *prime radahns me into fucking oblivion*
3:08 my name is maxiums decimus meridius
Starscourge looks way more intimidating I was so disappointed when I first saw consort design at first glance he looks thinner and feel weaker.
somehow the "Now" face looks like it was taken from Doom 3
I see betruger in it
The only being with omen like features whos eyes still have the grace of gold
The strarting frames of the transition of phase 1 are a reference to godfrey phase transition, but sort of inverted (Also the animation is inverted). When godfrey took off the grafted beast Serosh, divesting himself of what allowed him to become a lord, while in Radahn case he does the same thing Horah Loux did to become a lord, he and Miquella sort of graft together.
And also thats what made me soil my pants when i first saw that, in base game we really see few examples of grafting, the scions and the revenants are no joke to mess around, specially the revenants.
But in term of bosses we only had 2 examples, Godrick a frail little man seeking to steal the power of others so he can convience himself he is worthy of his bloodline, and Godfrey, that we can asume the graft sort of contain his strength so he would be capable of be a Lord.
But in this case, Radahn and Miquella, you have plenty of reasons to fear both of them, and thats terrifying. Well the 2nd phase gave us a lot of reasons to fear it (Some hitbox are bullshit tho)