WTFIWFYDB It delays a turn but unless youre about to go big and do the 20 - 30 you need to kill them before they combo and still doesnt solve the problem
Ooo, this game sounds fun! What class am I? "The path to success is whatever you choose it to be, and I like catering to those who want to try things depending on how they feel at the moment. I have trouble making up my mind, though, and I struggle when the going gets tough."
Why not adding one Questing Adventurers and one Violet teacher instead of the Si:7? That would save extremly strong outcomes of Barnes and you also get an replacement for Van Cleef in the deck in terms of beeing able to create a strong monster on the board to pressure somehow on other ways then the Maly-combo? :)
At 10:00 min you missed lethal trump Barnes Face, Thuarissan face , dagger face. After that Malygos and blood mage Thalnos. Then double sinister strike. Equal 23 damage. If I'm wrong someone please tell me why.
Hey Trump, what do you think of the Gang Up Card in this Deck? So you play a Malygos then gangup it, so you get a higher change into barnes-malygos otk eg.
I am trying to make a reno yogg mage but I don't have all of the legendaries on most deck lists but I have the good class cards. So what are some good neutral cards to put in it for replacements
+The mitick -gamer 'Trump card' is a frequently used term to describe what could be considered the best card in the deck. Trump is also the name of this lovely channel, so it is an clever and amusing play on words.
More specifically, in a trick-taking type of card game (like whist or bridge), one of the suits is typically designated as "trump", meaning cards from that suit are automatically of higher value than all the others, even when not following suit. The usage of the term "trump card" meaning a high-powered plan of some kind is derived from this. Etymologically, the word means "to deceive" someone. It's from the french tromper, to play the trumpet. Like, hucksters in a market would blow a horn or trumpet to attract customers and then fool them into some bad deal. In other words, Annoy-o-tron is the archetypal trump card.
Might be because he thought it was better to use a slow resource while he could instead of spending the fast resource which might be needed later. Plus, the combos in the deck encourage you to hold spells.
Not necessarily. In a combo deck, having combo pieces in hand is more important than having board presence. Case in point, on the next turn playing it with Gadgetzan drew him a card.
N'Zoth Priest: "I think this is the strongest Priest will be, and the other classes still don't have all their tools yet, so Priest is good!" Malyrogue: "Dohoho, Priest." FeelsPriestMan
Cycling is not enough, you need to actually fill your hand up at a card advantage. So Gadgetzan Auctioneer and Azures are more or less mandatory. Thaurissan is also mandatory because you can't 30 to 0 people on exactly 10 mana without discounts. The only creatures you can realistically cut are the Si-7s and the Tomb Pillagers.
Actually better thinking about it maaaybe you can get away with cutting Azures too. Leaves you with 6 guys: Thalnos Thaurissan Barnes Malygos Auctioneer x2. Minimum.
+Pan Ptáčník tnx! and is actually cw a bad matchup for miracle/malygos rogue because they can armour up above 30 and combo decks really rely on exact damage?
Yep. Warrior is the worst match up for any OTK deck... and is usually an impossible win unless you are the OTK Wargon warrior deck which can do 60+ damage.
Well, the counterplay to combo decks is killing them before they assemble the combo. There's always the off chance that part of the combo is at the bottom of their deck.
Yeah, he needed LOTS of rounds to assemble that combo. Not like the priest didn't have any time to kill it...It just didn't have any threats either. Answer>heal>pass not a great thing against combo. A good aggro deck would destroy a combo deck with an average draw I think
Trump, could you try Barnes in Freeze Mage? I feel it could be really strong provided you don't pull a useless 1/1 Alex or Novice, but pulling Archmage or Emporer could be great.
Freeze Mage just sucks dick in this meta, I think there's like 40% warriors in the meta right now so it makes absolutely no sense to play freeze Mage (which is disgustingly bad vs all warrior decks)
I don't think Barnes in freeze mage is really good (irrelevant rather). Because 1 good card to pull out is emperor, and sometimes loot hoarder could be. That's it. Freeze mage is really depend on card draws and spells to burst opponents.
"This troll is a member of the Twilight's Hammer clan, apparently engaged in summoning a faceless one." By deduction, the document is what holds him to that engagement.
i tried an arcane miracle rogue last night at rank 5. i lost 2 ranks, the meta is just too agressive right now to get late enough in the game to get the value off him consistently. also warrior already has a WAY better arcane golem deck.
This deck looks really, really good. Shame it'll die off with Conceal and all the other great cards being moved to Wild, though. Anyone come up with a version that might be good after the changes or is it dead forever?
I want this deck (or some variation) to be competitive so much... Except a brief affair with some hyper-aggresive deck, the only Rogue you see in tournaments has always been miracle... which is just meh, specially after a few years of exactly the same deck. But now you add Maly and a few extra tricks like Barnes, and the games become A LOT more fun to watch.
This deck is really inconsistent, Trump just gets kind of lucky up there in both draws and match ups. Very commonly you do not get the draw engine set up or lack answers to the threat you are currently facing. I'm really kind of beat up about it because i spent a lot of dust to make it, since it looks do fun in the video, but after about 20 matches i'd have to say the dust was poorly spent.
Decks out for Silverback Patriarch
Decks out for Mukla more like
TriHard
''I just wanna build a wall, what can I say'' - trump 2k16
harambe plzz
Miracle rogue and Mayrogue have risen from the dead and are now combined
Miracle wasn't dead
I don't see any normally but I hang around rank 12, are they more common at the higher ranks?
+Justin Tosh there's not many but it was still a viable deck and it's played a decent amount in legend and higher ranks
Good to hear there's still variety outside of dragon warrior and shaman midrange decks!
By their powers combined it's Captain Planet Rogue!!!!!
I like these old videos cause Trump is trying untested decks that sometimes work and sometimes don’to
Woohh
it's moore
lol
Why do you have Reno's face
+Fin “minecraft2jere” Tuber its the face of a steward summoned my moroes
CreeperMajesty
It was Reno... when i commented
"On with the show" - Barnes is the new Reno...meta-defining. Love it.
Backstage, Reno is supporting the show! "We're gonna be rich!"
except reno is skillful and healthy for the game where as barns decides games off of coin flips
Bk Big Fish Not even coin flips. they're more like d100 rolls.
Yea, Hearthstone doesn't have cards like that! ... Praise Yogg!
I'm sure that we'll all learn to love druids going Coin + Innervate into Barnes into Y'Shaarj into Ragnaros on turn one.
So Purify Barnes in the future right? right?
I faced a Priest deck with Barnes and Silence so...yeah?
Purify is legit a bad card even in that deck. It may be somewhat usable though.
Coin barnes spellbreaker me
Ricky the problem is, spellbreaker makes barnes consistency worse.
0 mana silence?
That poor priest. You make a class of answers but don't give them a way to disrupt combos because that mechanic doesn't exist
Loatheb.
+WTFIWFYDB standard
WTFIWFYDB It delays a turn but unless youre about to go big and do the 20 - 30 you need to kill them before they combo and still doesnt solve the problem
Johnny Scissors Yes you are right ,but it certainly archives disruption and it certainly exist in wild. Which makes your previous point irrelevant.
Nothing gets countered by priest. Priest is sadly garbage
barnes, brann, shadowstep, sinister strike, thaurissan = exodia rogue
Reminds me of when I beat your ass with this deck
+Nekolife and then losing 6 times in a row.
+LostEmperor At least I won that one time ayy
I don't get it?
+John Kay nice
21:15 hey trump , are you rolling a blunt behind your ear ?
This concept is so cool and it refreshes Miracle Malygos! Awesome!
What about Perdition's Blade over SI:7 to ensure better Barnes? They're kind of similar in effect.
Guess what class I am:
"Back in my day we had, Tap Tap into Mountain Giant"
Paladin!
Warlock
Hunter!
Death Knight?
Ooo, this game sounds fun!
What class am I?
"The path to success is whatever you choose it to be, and I like catering to those who want to try things depending on how they feel at the moment. I have trouble making up my mind, though, and I struggle when the going gets tough."
This deck is absolutely disgusting.
And I like it.
i can only imagine the despair vs warrior
yeah, can't even shadow strike them.
Shadowstrike 11 damage face, gg ez. Don't use it 5 damage to minion its a waste!
26:18 hahaha Prist hohohoo hahaah, i cried for Anduin when he said that.
I need to see more of this deck. So good!
Why not adding one Questing Adventurers and one Violet teacher instead of the Si:7? That would save extremly strong outcomes of Barnes and you also get an replacement for Van Cleef in the deck in terms of beeing able to create a strong monster on the board to pressure somehow on other ways then the Maly-combo? :)
At 10:00 min you missed lethal trump Barnes Face, Thuarissan face , dagger face. After that Malygos and blood mage Thalnos. Then double sinister strike. Equal 23 damage. If I'm wrong someone please tell me why.
Wait don't worry thought he had 10 mana lol
is this deck still good or is there too much aggro on the ladder?
Trump's amazing wisdom: If Barnes summons a 1/1 Bloodmage Thalnos, he basically summons a Bloodmage Thalnos.
9:59. Isn't that lethal? 2x sinisterstrike (maly+bloodmage) is 18+5 on board?
Malygos (8 mana)+bloodmage (2 mana) < the 8 mana he had
Gotta be honest, didn't think of Barnes in Malyrogue at first, but it makes a lot of sense.
missed lethal second game , u could maly , bloodmage and 2 sinister for 18 dmg , when he had 17 hp
Would you say this deck is ladder viable? I have most of the cards and I'm curious whether i should craft the rest.
Also, what would you pull for edwin?
has this deck been testet with rag and sylv instead of the double si:7??
Hey Trump, what do you think of the Gang Up Card in this Deck? So you play a Malygos then gangup it, so you get a higher change into barnes-malygos otk eg.
Does Valeera have a new "I always do" or am I just crazy. I feel like she didn't used to have that little chuckle at the end too
Only miss x2 prep for this deck is it really worth it to craft it ?
Do you keep barnes in your starting hand ?
Is Shadowstep a valid option to combo with Barnes?
I am trying to make a reno yogg mage but I don't have all of the legendaries on most deck lists but I have the good class cards. So what are some good neutral cards to put in it for replacements
My my, Barnes sure is the...
**sunglasses on**
Trump card in this deck.
(I'm sorry, is that an overused joke? xP)
Even if it is, plus one chuckles to me. x3
YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cam you explainin to me the joke?
+The mitick -gamer 'Trump card' is a frequently used term to describe what could be considered the best card in the deck.
Trump is also the name of this lovely channel, so it is an clever and amusing play on words.
More specifically, in a trick-taking type of card game (like whist or bridge), one of the suits is typically designated as "trump", meaning cards from that suit are automatically of higher value than all the others, even when not following suit. The usage of the term "trump card" meaning a high-powered plan of some kind is derived from this.
Etymologically, the word means "to deceive" someone. It's from the french tromper, to play the trumpet. Like, hucksters in a market would blow a horn or trumpet to attract customers and then fool them into some bad deal.
In other words, Annoy-o-tron is the archetypal trump card.
wish you showed some warrior match ups.
What about Edwin VanCleef? Perhaps instead of one FoK or SI7?
You missed lethal at 4:18
4:10 Why does trump trade away his 5/4 here? Isn't keeping it on board and using the Shadowstrike to kill off the Highmane the better play?
Might be because he thought it was better to use a slow resource while he could instead of spending the fast resource which might be needed later. Plus, the combos in the deck encourage you to hold spells.
because he is a noob
Not necessarily. In a combo deck, having combo pieces in hand is more important than having board presence. Case in point, on the next turn playing it with Gadgetzan drew him a card.
N'Zoth Priest: "I think this is the strongest Priest will be, and the other classes still don't have all their tools yet, so Priest is good!"
Malyrogue: "Dohoho, Priest."
FeelsPriestMan
Is Cthun Warrior the only counter to this?
can u tell me what card i can use instead of tomb pillager?
Use cutpurse
+Scrapy 1 ty
yw
Trump when are the Danganronpa 2 videos coming out? Can't wait to see it after watching the first one
If you only run malygos as a unic creature (with barnes), can you make a otk rogue, with a lot of cycling cards to buy the spells that do face damage?
Cycling is not enough, you need to actually fill your hand up at a card advantage. So Gadgetzan Auctioneer and Azures are more or less mandatory. Thaurissan is also mandatory because you can't 30 to 0 people on exactly 10 mana without discounts.
The only creatures you can realistically cut are the Si-7s and the Tomb Pillagers.
Actually better thinking about it maaaybe you can get away with cutting Azures too. Leaves you with 6 guys: Thalnos Thaurissan Barnes Malygos Auctioneer x2. Minimum.
You'd die to aggro; Rogue simply doesn't have the board clears or healing.
+Infinity Sparks Miracle rogue is *supposed* to die to aggro. It's a meta dependent deck. You can't beat everything.
what weakness do pali and priest have in common that they both usually lose to combo decks?
they are slow control decks that have mostly no way to deal with otk decks
+Pan Ptáčník tnx! and is actually cw a bad matchup for miracle/malygos rogue because they can armour up above 30 and combo decks really rely on exact damage?
Yep. Warrior is the worst match up for any OTK deck... and is usually an impossible win unless you are the OTK Wargon warrior deck which can do 60+ damage.
yeah shield block and justicar will make winning very hard
and they can't have more then 30 health, so if you have the right Cards, you always win
Cant craft SI7...Any replacements?
what deck tracker is he using
jesus that rogue match going for 7-2 was savage....
the thing about combo decks is that theres no counterplay :/
Well, the counterplay to combo decks is killing them before they assemble the combo. There's always the off chance that part of the combo is at the bottom of their deck.
soo... RNG.... again... ah heartstone!
True. Especially with rogues - they have no heals (or just the farseer which is extremely little) so aggro them to win.
Warrior with 1000 Armor can't be killed
Yeah, he needed LOTS of rounds to assemble that combo. Not like the priest didn't have any time to kill it...It just didn't have any threats either. Answer>heal>pass not a great thing against combo. A good aggro deck would destroy a combo deck with an average draw I think
someone end my eternal suffering
*Plays execute
You dare challenge the master of the Frostblade?
Whats a frostblade? Xd I've only heared about frostmourne...
+Buzás Péter umm... Check my name...
+Frostblade 11 I understood that part I just.... ah forget it :P
Trump, could you try Barnes in Freeze Mage? I feel it could be really strong provided you don't pull a useless 1/1 Alex or Novice, but pulling Archmage or Emporer could be great.
Freeze Mage just sucks dick in this meta, I think there's like 40% warriors in the meta right now so it makes absolutely no sense to play freeze Mage (which is disgustingly bad vs all warrior decks)
yep they just sit there and press armor and you lose lol
I don't think Barnes in freeze mage is really good (irrelevant rather). Because 1 good card to pull out is emperor, and sometimes loot hoarder could be. That's it. Freeze mage is really depend on card draws and spells to burst opponents.
I don't have thalnos,any suggestion for the substitute?
:/
A second shiv
loot hoarder is fine for the cycle and for Barnes
kobold, for the lul
how good is this deck if i want to rank up?
Barnes summons a 1/1 copy. Does purify give the stats back?
Yes
+Paul Wong purify value PogChamp
+Boomer Cooper Brode was playing the long con BibleThump
You wouldn't wanna do that though since you loose things like Thaurissan's mana reduction and stuff.
Erik Bergström The point is if you used Barnes in a deck with huge bodies like, say, Deathwing.
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*Seriously I want 0 likes, and comments*
You'll get a dislike, have that.
ok
Sorry I can't do that for you...
whoops
+Slade Wilson. How do you dislike a comment?
no shadowstep for barnes?
That Trump chuckle at the end killed me. Lol priest, 30 health not good enough.
So basically, just Malyrogue with Barnes. I guess it makes it better. What would normally replace it, another Shiv?
This deck was actually amusing to watch
Can someone tell me why the Twilight Summoner says "This document looks legally binding."?
"This troll is a member of the Twilight's Hammer clan, apparently engaged in summoning a faceless one."
By deduction, the document is what holds him to that engagement.
Malygos prep fan on 5:50 would be better right? No way he can kill 4/12
14.02 Bloodmage Thalnos reads: Each player draws a card, your opponent equips a 1/1 dagger. Take an extra turn.
Why you not use liquidation?
The only card I don't have is the legendary bloodmage. Geomancer or loot hoarder to replace it? Hmmmm
Can I swap Tomb pillagers to 1 Xaril and 1 Squidface?
what can i replance thalnos with ?
Dispair, memes, bs.. this channel = lol
Ohh this is what that rogue deck i faced was
Bearly won with reno lock
4:11 Why not burst him for 22 and kill him next turn? He couldn't play call of the wild and you had both dagger + shiv to do the remaining 1 damage.
At 4:10 he was 1 off lethal, should have set the opponent at 1 so he can shiv next turn.
Fun and interactive!
so what happens when you face a warrior?
if its aggro warr you hope to survive long enough to pull off the combo, if its control you just get rekt by 60 armor
for the scenario of a control warrior match up, add elise to the deck.
she will give you a way to win.
Cry.
...Try to draw your Malygos ASAP. If it's not in the top half of your deck, you probably lose.
what about adding one new Arcane Golem in this deck?
i tried an arcane miracle rogue last night at rank 5. i lost 2 ranks, the meta is just too agressive right now to get late enough in the game to get the value off him consistently. also warrior already has a WAY better arcane golem deck.
It'd be a different kind of deck, more of a late game tempo/control deck. But I think this otk deck is stronger than that.
but why no shadowstep?
This deck looks really, really good. Shame it'll die off with Conceal and all the other great cards being moved to Wild, though. Anyone come up with a version that might be good after the changes or is it dead forever?
Razorpetal OTK Miracoli Rogue (e.g. www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/rogue#90:1;164:2;198:1;205:2;221:1;241:1;378:2;382:2;385:1;568:1;658:1;33174:2;35195:2;35216:1;42021:1;49643:2;55483:2;55533:1;55579:2;55580:2; )
I think you need to add in Shadowstep.
No arcane giant as another late game card?
legendrank here we come
This deck looks good AND fun.
You should put in shadowstep for barnes and the card that puts 1/1 copy of (barnes) in your hand, I think the deck would be a lot better
Looks like a fun deck to play
I can't wait for "The Trump of the Opera". It's gonna be YUGE
You could also just add barnes to the standard miracle or even yogg rogue decks.
10:00 missed lethal
what region does trump play on
a golden card on trump deck PogChamp
he doesnt have a normal maly :D
cant he just disenchant gold and craft normal?
+AngryMurloc haha
yep It IS possible. when he doesnt have normal he does not need to wait to get him from packs
Death Not if you like normal cards more then golden cards ( which appearantly trump does)
16:27 You are not prepared!
I want this deck (or some variation) to be competitive so much...
Except a brief affair with some hyper-aggresive deck, the only Rogue you see in tournaments has always been miracle... which is just meh, specially after a few years of exactly the same deck.
But now you add Maly and a few extra tricks like Barnes, and the games become A LOT more fun to watch.
Can you pleas make a warlock or shaman deck???
he will most likely be making a new warlock deck when the final wing of Karazhan is out for Malchezaars imp
Thanks dude!
Savjz has made a new evolve shaman deck and it seems pretty competitive, he made it to top 10 legend. Just go watch one of his VOD's for a bit
+Max Johnstone Thanks you too!
16:34
YOU WERE NOT PREPARED!
Fun deck to watch.
Why no Edwin?
You're the best Trump!
Trump just missed lethal at 10:40 something around that
This deck is really inconsistent, Trump just gets kind of lucky up there in both draws and match ups. Very commonly you do not get the draw engine set up or lack answers to the threat you are currently facing. I'm really kind of beat up about it because i spent a lot of dust to make it, since it looks do fun in the video, but after about 20 matches i'd have to say the dust was poorly spent.
what rank are you. Remember this deck is for 5-Legend like trump. Not for climbing from rank 25-10
Play fast deck and from 5 to legend play any deck you like
You don't HAVE to play a deck suprely for its strenght though. Play it for fun.
Sure, for fun
That poor priest in the end might as well have afked.
I made a Barnes priest and it was pretty good
I'm sold.
Lost my first 3 games with this deck thanks to both auctioneers and malygos being in the bottom 5 cards of my deck, praise RNGsus!
This looks like a pretty good deck. That's new for Trump.
why not remove SI:7?
What would he replace it with?
Because it's one of the best 3 drops in the game!
Xaril maybe?
+parak00pa Xaril is terrible against early game,and is usually a replacement for violet teacher if control is swarming the meta.
but this guy is toasted
I play mally rogue all the time and the addition of Barnes does not make the deck viable...I currently can't get past few rank 9 with rogue
The autoconcedevswarrior deck
"Because of all the priests around" HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!