Interesting video. I noticed you made calls in the blind announcing your intentions, which is fine. Not a bad idea to ask if anyone is in the pattern or otherwise in a movement or non-movement area. Also, you blew through your checklist quickly. I applaud your use of the checklist. As a pro tip, it’s not a race nor does speed of checklist make you a superior pilot. Always perform one step at a time and perform each step with the assumption that something is wrong until proven to be correct. By doing so you ensure you don’t overlook something that could cause you big problems later.
Situational awareness is critical. The points you raise are truly important-this is often referred to as airmanship. Thank you for sharing, as this needs much more attention than it gets.
You've got a solid flow from start to finish! That near miss was insane! I agree 100% about taking directly to any other traffic this way everyone works it out and knows what they are doing. I hear it all the time. Everyone making radio calls but not communicating. Seems like you have had excellent instruction!
Dan Gryder (Probable Cause) & Steve Thorne (Flight Chops) agree with you, Tom. Talk to each other and COORDINATE! Simply announcing your intentions, without regard for the other guy in or about the pattern, is a recipe for disaster (overused cliché, yes, but still true).
I am a private pilot and have only been flying for 8 months now and I have seen people do some really crazy things. Had one guy decided to do a right base turn in a left traffic runway while there was traffic in the pattern. I had a guy decided to do a 4 mile base and land cutting me off in the downwind. Had a RV decide to sit on the runway for 10 mins without talking to anyone and making a bunch of student pilots go around then just slowly taxi the length of the runway and go get fuel. Planes that have radios decided to not call their position in the pattern ect.
That’s an insane story about the baron and the biplane. I have one of my own, which actually is up on UA-cam from my perspective. I was on one of my first couple of solo flights after my initial solo. I was on short final about 200 feet above the ground, and somebody started taking the runway of course I went around but even an untitled airport. Make sure you do your radio calls. There was a situation down here south of Orlando a few months back where two planes collided over the lake at one of the well-known seaplane training sites one was making radio calls. The other guy didn’t even have a radio and flu straight into him.
Enjoyed the video and love the Mooney. Flew one for about 2 years and miss the heck out of it. I take it you watch some of Dan Gryder's stuff. Dan can be a bit over the top but he sure has some great training ideas. I use a lot of his stuff myself. It really just makes good sense! Keep the videos coming!!
What training he does? To never turn if you get into IFR.. Really? To keep going up and "Try to find VFR on top.. That is BS. And more.. to never turn if partial power failure on take off, even at 600 feet. But he never landed it where he says YOU SHOULD LAND. That is BS. Im a CFi EFATO and spins. He can do those. So tells all not to practice them..
Stuff like this is why I am so scared of uncontrolled fields. I want to improve my untowered operations for the occasional time that I take a trip to one, but I also don’t want to be at those airports if I don’t have to be.
Towered airports are often busier and you cant rely on ATC to keep you seperated or safe. Untowered airports represent the majority of airports for General aviation. Nothing to be scared of.
I’ve never seen anything that crazy but I’ve experienced many people not talking and cutting me off, I always let others know I have them in sight when they enter the pattern or if I’m entering the pattern. I sometimes wonder how some of these people passed a checkride 😂
Good. I taught EFATO for real on runway. But you have to angle opposite the crosswind if any. And turn headwind to the runway if EFATO. Vglide 45 bank. if over marked turnback alt only.
I was looking at an old video you had on prop repair. What kind of clear coat do you use on a carbon fiber prop? TY in advance for your attention in this matter.
Was it proved the biplane never had a radio? Just because a biplane look old not all of them are old and most will have radio? Just a question, do uncontrolled air fields hold radio recordings of traffic using the airport frequency?
Atc here. Small criticism. Don't shorten your callsign until atc says your full callsign. You were ifr, but it's a good practice. Also, we will land you on a runway with another airplane on the runway provided that there is 3,000 ft separation and the second aircraft is a full stop. Nice mooney. Have you seen the other channels that have used your simultaneous departure video?
Appreciate the feedback! Always trying to improve my radio calls! I’ve seen this at towered airports but still think it’s a poor idea at untowered. I’ve heard of people using the footage but haven’t seen it. Have a link?
Its crazy what goes on out there. Complete wild wild west . I had someone get really mad at me and moan because I announced i was lining(at the very beginning of the rwy)up and waiting on the rwy(as the other guy was exiting). He started moaning about rwy incursion. i told him i was just lining up and will take off AFTER he calls clear. Then you see things like what you show.😂
Unbelievable man. How many hours you got now? I just hit 666 hrs. Wanted to fly a couple of laps around the pattern but it was too bumpy so I am still at 666 hrs.😂
Not only initially defended Trevor Jacob; Dan Gryder was Calling him "A Genious" for that stunt on a few videos until we complained he was FOS for praising Trevor . After 2 fatal collisions caused by arseholes diving into the final approach of other airplanes VIA VFR STRAIGHT IN APPROACH just for fun or lazyness, Dan G for 2 videos DEFENDED the right of those arseholes that killled others-to do Straight in Approaches into a busy student pilots traffic pattern. I have more things about DG but too long. Im a retired aerobatics, Bush Pilots and EFATO CFI. Maneuvers he says nobody needs to know. DG is all BS, BS.
Uncontrolled fields demand attention. It is good you pointed it out to the other pilot. Be sure to keep your emotions in check. It will help you think clearly in the moment. Why are your risking a para-motor over an airport? It's a perilous choice, as evidenced by the video of planes taking off toward each other. I've encountered para-motors in airport patterns while flying at 130+ kts, nearly missing them. They're hard to spot, and their presence jeopardizes safety. Lack of radio communication and ADS-B makes it worse. Your concerns about uncontrolled airports are valid and is the REASON a para-motor should stay away from airports. If you choose to fly para-motor, fly responsibly for everyone's sake and stay away from airports.
Just like the person who landed on the runway behind me or the people that cut you off in the pattern, it’s based on the individual not the aircraft they’re flying. In the area that I live in South Carolina there are almost no LZs to fly paramotors out of so we’re forced to fly at airports. It can absolutely be done safely but again, it requires the pilot to understand the procedures and make good decisions. Just my opinion. ✌️
@@Tommyflies It seems like you're overlooking a crucial point here. Ultimately, it boils down to the pilot or individual involved. Let me illustrate with a similar scenario: imagine biking along a busy road where cars zip by at 55 mph. Could you manage it? Sure. But would you let your kids attempt it? Well, probably not, unless you're not particularly fond of them. Even in incidents involving both bikes and cars, it's always about the decisions made by individuals. All it takes is one person to lose focus for a moment, and things can take a turn for the worse. We can utilize pilot decision-making principles to mitigate risks. For instance, in the case of icing conditions, the rule is simple: avoid it altogether. When faced with a thunderstorm, the best course is to steer clear. Sometimes, it's as straightforward as following a basic algorithm: when encountering a potentially dangerous situation, the rule is clear-maintain a safe distance. For example, if two planes are converging, especially in a pattern, while a paraglider is aloft, the prudent action is to ensure ample space for the paraglider's safety. Paraglider should clear of that situation and to be in the pattern. I'm sorry to learn that there isn't a suitable school grounds or field for your flying endeavors.
@@NRB-mb7jc I see what you’re saying but still don’t agree. Untowered, public airports are not just for small airplanes. They’re for helicopters, lighter than air, Part 103, etc. It’s up to everyone flying there to understand the rules and coexist safely. I’ve been flying PPG out of airports across the country for almost a decade and I’ve seen far more negligence from certificated pilots than I have from the Part 103 folks (not to say it doesn’t happen).
@@Tommyflies Your a good low hour pilot. But I am convinced you are missing my point. So going to try another way. You are close to Charlotte NC. Try landing your mooney during busy hours at KCLT on a VFR flight. Your quote: "They’re for helicopters, lighter than air, Part 103, etc. It’s up to everyone flying there to understand the rules and coexist safely." In a mooeny or similar plane, is there is a chance they would decline services? Your Mooney is capable and allowed to land at class bravo. So why does ATC sometime decline services to VFR or slower traffic? Why do bug catchers tend to stay clear bravo landings during high jet traffic hours? Add'l Question: Are PPGs (hmm, nice acronym) are allowed in bravo, charlie, or delta?
Oh, and I know of many non towered airports where ppg's are not allowed to depart or land at the airport due to plane, helicopter, and lighter than air vehicles traffic, because of safety reasons sited by airport managers. But regs are not the point. Common safety sense is the point I am attempting to convey. Ppg's look like fun. It is difficult to share the airspace with 50% speed delta between vehicles. A delta of 95%+ is crazy. 95%+deta is what a ppg brings to the situation. I do not see a path to coexist safely with the individuals available and the safety issues to overcome. How about sky diving air space? Planes are diverted around the space when it is hot. Why divert the planes?
See and avoid works well, but it is not 100%, as your video shows. Anyone who has ever stepped in dog sh!t has demonstrated the inherent limitations of “see and avoid”. So get a hand-held radio, get ADS-B in, and call for flight following to mitigate the risk as much as possible.
I’m fairly certain that the FAA should mandate radios at this point in ALL aircraft. We’ve seen fatalities recently with this and there’s no reason to not communicate. Even a handheld radio would be better than nothing.
I was once in a plane the landed on the opposite runway from another. We almost crashed midfield. Both planes touched down at the same time and narrowly avoided each other. We were in a Luscombe 8A and the other was a 172. The 1800’ grass strip didn’t leave much room. The summer of 1974 was a good one.
@@Tommyflies It was. I was 18 at the time and hadn't soloed yet. I was riding along with another pilot while he was practicing landings. The other guy was landing into the sun and was sorry he hadn't overflown the field to see if anyone was in the pattern. Most of the planes there didn't have radios. Ours didn't even have an electrical system.
Videoing yourself is in my opinion just plain STUPId. Why because if you 'Screw the Pooch' so to speak and mess up some aluminum there is now a digital record for our friends at the FAA/NTSB to hank you by your (U Know What) and the will do everything in their bag of tricks to accomplish that HANGING.
I personally think they look nice. But I don’t do hiring. I strongly suggest you wear long sleeves in any aviation setting if you wish to be a professional pilot. Most pilots and all hiring managers are not as open minded as I am.
@cessna177flyer3 being that I'm an actual airline pilot at an actual legacy airline that has an actual "no tattoos visible" rule, I'd say you're wrong.
@@edsmale I’m an “actual airline pilot” too (B-777 Capt, since we appear to be measuring) at a top-tier cargo company. Our policy is no tattoos above the collar or below the wrist, except for a tattooed wedding band. “Visible arm tattoos and sleeves” are ok, so long as they are not offensive. Bottom line: tattoo policy varies from company to company and IS become more accepted. It wasn’t always that way.
Let’s play the classic ‘Find the Typo’ 😃
Interesting video. I noticed you made calls in the blind announcing your intentions, which is fine. Not a bad idea to ask if anyone is in the pattern or otherwise in a movement or non-movement area. Also, you blew through your checklist quickly. I applaud your use of the checklist. As a pro tip, it’s not a race nor does speed of checklist make you a superior pilot. Always perform one step at a time and perform each step with the assumption that something is wrong until proven to be correct. By doing so you ensure you don’t overlook something that could cause you big problems later.
Situational awareness is critical. The points you raise are truly important-this is often referred to as airmanship. Thank you for sharing, as this needs much more attention than it gets.
That was insane! Flying without a radio is insane! Wow! Also, love the Dan Gryder take-off loss of power checklist item. It will save your life!
You've got a solid flow from start to finish! That near miss was insane! I agree 100% about taking directly to any other traffic this way everyone works it out and knows what they are doing. I hear it all the time. Everyone making radio calls but not communicating. Seems like you have had excellent instruction!
Dan Gryder (Probable Cause) & Steve Thorne (Flight Chops) agree with you, Tom. Talk to each other and COORDINATE! Simply announcing your intentions, without regard for the other guy in or about the pattern, is a recipe for disaster (overused cliché, yes, but still true).
Nice video, thanks for sharing. I fly the Diamond out of CHS. Looking forward in crossing paths with you someday.
Great catch on the camera, not good, thanks for filming...be careful 😔
HOLY S***!!!
I can't believe that happened and you caught that on tape!
That is discouraging...
I am a private pilot and have only been flying for 8 months now and I have seen people do some really crazy things. Had one guy decided to do a right base turn in a left traffic runway while there was traffic in the pattern. I had a guy decided to do a 4 mile base and land cutting me off in the downwind. Had a RV decide to sit on the runway for 10 mins without talking to anyone and making a bunch of student pilots go around then just slowly taxi the length of the runway and go get fuel. Planes that have radios decided to not call their position in the pattern ect.
Yep. Gotta have your head on a swivel out there!
That’s an insane story about the baron and the biplane. I have one of my own, which actually is up on UA-cam from my perspective. I was on one of my first couple of solo flights after my initial solo. I was on short final about 200 feet above the ground, and somebody started taking the runway of course I went around but even an untitled airport. Make sure you do your radio calls. There was a situation down here south of Orlando a few months back where two planes collided over the lake at one of the well-known seaplane training sites one was making radio calls. The other guy didn’t even have a radio and flu straight into him.
Yep I remember that one.
Enjoyed the video and love the Mooney. Flew one for about 2 years and miss the heck out of it. I take it you watch some of Dan Gryder's stuff. Dan can be a bit over the top but he sure has some great training ideas. I use a lot of his stuff myself. It really just makes good sense! Keep the videos coming!!
What training he does? To never turn if you get into IFR.. Really? To keep going up and "Try to find VFR on top.. That is BS. And more.. to never turn if partial power failure on take off, even at 600 feet. But he never landed it where he says YOU SHOULD LAND. That is BS. Im a CFi EFATO and spins. He can do those. So tells all not to practice them..
Stuff like this is why I am so scared of uncontrolled fields. I want to improve my untowered operations for the occasional time that I take a trip to one, but I also don’t want to be at those airports if I don’t have to be.
Towered airports are often busier and you cant rely on ATC to keep you seperated or safe. Untowered airports represent the majority of airports for General aviation. Nothing to be scared of.
Good video bud ! Thanks See ya next time - Roger
I’ve never seen anything that crazy but I’ve experienced many people not talking and cutting me off, I always let others know I have them in sight when they enter the pattern or if I’m entering the pattern. I sometimes wonder how some of these people passed a checkride 😂
Heck look at all the recent video's of ATC screw ups and airliners! They all have radios and still some really close calls!
Yeah man, I think we have a big one coming 😬. Pretty scary.
Once I liftoff I like to slide to the right side of the runway or further on takeoff.
I’ve heard of this as a means of making the impossible turn less impossible.
Good. I taught EFATO for real on runway. But you have to angle opposite the crosswind if any. And turn headwind to the runway if EFATO. Vglide 45 bank. if over marked turnback alt only.
I was looking at an old video you had on prop repair. What kind of clear coat do you use on a carbon fiber prop? TY in advance for your attention in this matter.
wow that looked crazy, def looked that they were going to hit.
Yes it is insane very Dangerous unless they talk about this and they knew what they where doing. And lucky for you and us that saw it to
I would still watch your videos even if you had to cut back on music licenses and the editing software, have you tried davinci resolve for editing?
Keep scanning for traffic big buddy ! Keep scanning - - - -
If you don't have Radio you can't fly the Plane is like Flying Blind
Have u reached out to either pilot, even they might have no idea they almost hit each other. They just went on their merry way after takeoff
Yep. Mentioned it in the video but I talked with the Baron pilot, he never saw the other airplane.
Was it proved the biplane never had a radio? Just because a biplane look old not all of them are old and most will have radio? Just a question, do uncontrolled air fields hold radio recordings of traffic using the airport frequency?
Atc here. Small criticism. Don't shorten your callsign until atc says your full callsign. You were ifr, but it's a good practice. Also, we will land you on a runway with another airplane on the runway provided that there is 3,000 ft separation and the second aircraft is a full stop. Nice mooney. Have you seen the other channels that have used your simultaneous departure video?
Appreciate the feedback! Always trying to improve my radio calls! I’ve seen this at towered airports but still think it’s a poor idea at untowered. I’ve heard of people using the footage but haven’t seen it. Have a link?
Its crazy what goes on out there. Complete wild wild west . I had someone get really mad at me and moan because I announced i was lining(at the very beginning of the rwy)up and waiting on the rwy(as the other guy was exiting). He started moaning about rwy incursion. i told him i was just lining up and will take off AFTER he calls clear. Then you see things like what you show.😂
Unbelievable man.
How many hours you got now? I just hit 666 hrs. Wanted to fly a couple of laps around the pattern but it was too bumpy so I am still at 666 hrs.😂
Dude… go taxi around for 30 min and get 666.5 at least! Haha. I’m right there with you, 674 hours.
Not only initially defended Trevor Jacob; Dan Gryder was Calling him "A Genious" for that stunt on a few videos until we complained he was FOS for praising Trevor . After 2 fatal collisions caused by arseholes diving into the final approach of other airplanes VIA VFR STRAIGHT IN APPROACH just for fun or lazyness, Dan G for 2 videos DEFENDED the right of those arseholes that killled others-to do Straight in Approaches into a busy student pilots traffic pattern. I have more things about DG but too long. Im a retired aerobatics, Bush Pilots and EFATO CFI. Maneuvers he says nobody needs to know. DG is all BS, BS.
Daaaam
Act Professional - Be Professional. Be very serious about what you do !
Uncontrolled fields demand attention. It is good you pointed it out to the other pilot. Be sure to keep your emotions in check. It will help you think clearly in the moment. Why are your risking a para-motor over an airport? It's a perilous choice, as evidenced by the video of planes taking off toward each other. I've encountered para-motors in airport patterns while flying at 130+ kts, nearly missing them. They're hard to spot, and their presence jeopardizes safety. Lack of radio communication and ADS-B makes it worse. Your concerns about uncontrolled airports are valid and is the REASON a para-motor should stay away from airports. If you choose to fly para-motor, fly responsibly for everyone's sake and stay away from airports.
Just like the person who landed on the runway behind me or the people that cut you off in the pattern, it’s based on the individual not the aircraft they’re flying. In the area that I live in South Carolina there are almost no LZs to fly paramotors out of so we’re forced to fly at airports. It can absolutely be done safely but again, it requires the pilot to understand the procedures and make good decisions. Just my opinion. ✌️
@@Tommyflies It seems like you're overlooking a crucial point here. Ultimately, it boils down to the pilot or individual involved. Let me illustrate with a similar scenario: imagine biking along a busy road where cars zip by at 55 mph. Could you manage it? Sure. But would you let your kids attempt it? Well, probably not, unless you're not particularly fond of them. Even in incidents involving both bikes and cars, it's always about the decisions made by individuals. All it takes is one person to lose focus for a moment, and things can take a turn for the worse.
We can utilize pilot decision-making principles to mitigate risks. For instance, in the case of icing conditions, the rule is simple: avoid it altogether. When faced with a thunderstorm, the best course is to steer clear. Sometimes, it's as straightforward as following a basic algorithm: when encountering a potentially dangerous situation, the rule is clear-maintain a safe distance. For example, if two planes are converging, especially in a pattern, while a paraglider is aloft, the prudent action is to ensure ample space for the paraglider's safety. Paraglider should clear of that situation and to be in the pattern.
I'm sorry to learn that there isn't a suitable school grounds or field for your flying endeavors.
@@NRB-mb7jc I see what you’re saying but still don’t agree. Untowered, public airports are not just for small airplanes. They’re for helicopters, lighter than air, Part 103, etc. It’s up to everyone flying there to understand the rules and coexist safely. I’ve been flying PPG out of airports across the country for almost a decade and I’ve seen far more negligence from certificated pilots than I have from the Part 103 folks (not to say it doesn’t happen).
@@Tommyflies Your a good low hour pilot. But I am convinced you are missing my point. So going to try another way. You are close to Charlotte NC. Try landing your mooney during busy hours at KCLT on a VFR flight. Your quote: "They’re for helicopters, lighter than air, Part 103, etc. It’s up to everyone flying there to understand the rules and coexist safely." In a mooeny or similar plane, is there is a chance they would decline services? Your Mooney is capable and allowed to land at class bravo. So why does ATC sometime decline services to VFR or slower traffic? Why do bug catchers tend to stay clear bravo landings during high jet traffic hours? Add'l Question: Are PPGs (hmm, nice acronym) are allowed in bravo, charlie, or delta?
Oh, and I know of many non towered airports where ppg's are not allowed to depart or land at the airport due to plane, helicopter, and lighter than air vehicles traffic, because of safety reasons sited by airport managers. But regs are not the point. Common safety sense is the point I am attempting to convey. Ppg's look like fun. It is difficult to share the airspace with 50% speed delta between vehicles. A delta of 95%+ is crazy. 95%+deta is what a ppg brings to the situation. I do not see a path to coexist safely with the individuals available and the safety issues to overcome.
How about sky diving air space? Planes are diverted around the space when it is hot. Why divert the planes?
See and avoid works well, but it is not 100%, as your video shows. Anyone who has ever stepped in dog sh!t has demonstrated the inherent limitations of “see and avoid”. So get a hand-held radio, get ADS-B in, and call for flight following to mitigate the risk as much as possible.
I’m fairly certain that the FAA should mandate radios at this point in ALL aircraft. We’ve seen fatalities recently with this and there’s no reason to not communicate. Even a handheld radio would be better than nothing.
Crap on the dash, only partial controls check, and complacent attitude
One day its going to get you
Partial controls check?
Think he means you didn't do full right aileron check, left yes, right no ???
If you want to look professional for your passengers wear a long sleeve shirt to cover your tattoos.
Haha. Never had a complaint actually. Only people that seem to mind are kids with UA-cam accounts 😉
I was once in a plane the landed on the opposite runway from another. We almost crashed midfield. Both planes touched down at the same time and narrowly avoided each other. We were in a Luscombe 8A and the other was a 172. The 1800’ grass strip didn’t leave much room. The summer of 1974 was a good one.
That’s wild….
@@Tommyflies It was. I was 18 at the time and hadn't soloed yet. I was riding along with another pilot while he was practicing landings. The other guy was landing into the sun and was sorry he hadn't overflown the field to see if anyone was in the pattern. Most of the planes there didn't have radios. Ours didn't even have an electrical system.
Videoing yourself is in my opinion just plain STUPId. Why because if you 'Screw the Pooch' so to speak and mess up some aluminum there is now a digital record for our friends at the FAA/NTSB to hank you by your (U Know What) and the will do everything in their bag of tricks to accomplish that HANGING.
Tommy scared now and no one will fly with him. Tommy needs mommy.
Would never fly with a pilot with tattoos! Why, just why? Obviously not too bright!
I personally think they look nice. But I don’t do hiring. I strongly suggest you wear long sleeves in any aviation setting if you wish to be a professional pilot. Most pilots and all hiring managers are not as open minded as I am.
Societal norms have changed. There are LOTS of airline pilots with tatoos now.
@cessna177flyer3 being that I'm an actual airline pilot at an actual legacy airline that has an actual "no tattoos visible" rule, I'd say you're wrong.
@@edsmale I’m an “actual airline pilot” too (B-777 Capt, since we appear to be measuring) at a top-tier cargo company. Our policy is no tattoos above the collar or below the wrist, except for a tattooed wedding band. “Visible arm tattoos and sleeves” are ok, so long as they are not offensive. Bottom line: tattoo policy varies from company to company and IS become more accepted. It wasn’t always that way.
@@cessna177flyer3 you'll find legacy passenger airlines to be more restrictive. Boxes don't often complain.