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Backline cleric was not buffed. Solo cleric was buffed since their spells can't even be used against most people and they can't handle pressure with no mobility.
I'd add any class where it's like "this isn't fun and it's also the only way to play the class" is severely broken and needs all it's other setups buffed. That's rogue, it's also cleric. Walking around naked with a lantern as a shield class using ale and no spells, it's broke my guy stop nerfing it.
I heard a rumor that Royced has facial features that resemble a chiseled Roman statue and can wipe an entire dungeon with only a grey staff and intense focus
Bards free buffs total the following +2 all = 14 Stats +10 Phys power = 10 str +8 Action speed = 12 dex +9 Move speed = 9 Agi So in total for like 5 mem cap you get 45 points of stats for free, not counting all the other songs you get.
They don't, now warlock doesn't have any good damage from range now. Bolt of darkness now counts as a projectile and is easy to dodge and cure of pain is nerfed aswell and is only good if you run all magic damage. And warlock is a super squishy class unless you use demon form so gg. They 100% do not play or watch videos on there own game.
I feel like perseverance should be a stacking buff. Like takes 1 dmg off the first instance of damage and it stacks up to 3 or maybe even more for every additional instance of damage.
the main strength of perseverance is from hard countering DoTs...so changing it to counter DoTs even better doesnt make much sense, it should work in reverse taking off the most for 1 hit and then scaling down for consecutive damage
The meta isn't rogue It's movement speed and just that. Usually movement speed + bow/crossbow or magic and kiting anyone with lesser movement speed who can't catch up.
@@partychip unless its changed recently, the initial curse dot scales, with magic damage, on the soma darkest hour podcast they showcase srslysoapy getting almost 3 shot by curses lol
Solo HR Wizard is fucking AIDS. I main Wizard and it's like C or D tier right now. Wizard is only shines in trios, also Cleric is A at most it got nerfed hard.
I've briefly played with the changes to meditate. Overload, meditate, 10% magic power and knowledge, and I just keep blasting, for the first time in PvE as well. I feel like a real wizard for the first time in the game. Shame it still requires a steep investment with it taking up a skill slot, and some perk slots as well. Also the Crystal Sword still seems incredibly weak even with ignite, maybe that's just me.
I think bard is BIS and has almost no bad matchup. Survival bow spam with dex and acalrity for range and shriek of weakness melts pdr. I am also running around with 300 move speed without accelerando and 45-50 pdr. Still get landmind tho..
A good Barb or slayer in equal gear will smoke you if you’re not careful and play around your bow to get chip damage & debuffs, so you have to put in effort to kill those classes
@@michaelarcanistsyou don’t really need effort against barb as bard and fighter is the same flavor but at least fighter has range so barb can’t just auto win
I bursted out laughing when you said rouge solos playstile is „diabolicly cringe“ Just got killed by a rouge in solo‘s and watched him play for 2 minutes. He was playing sneaking 5 meters… waiting…. sneaking 5 meters….. waiting. I actually just alt f4 outta the game after seeing that shit
I like the game, i dont have problems with rogues on all classes i play, majority of times that i die i get kitted(enemys outrun me with bard or archer and yes its frustrating) there are guys that outplay us, but we have to up our game and learn the game i feel much more confortable now compared when i started. But yeah you are right if you find Dimo youtuber with any class your fucked 😂
First time the DD algo gave me a video of yours and already I'm smiling at your edits... good energy, good content, good comedy, maaaan just take this sub brah. And RIP to my front line cleric as a new player of like a month and a cleric main in mostly solos... nerf nerf nerf... I know I know.. W Key warrior.. but game is hard man. Sorry about your Warlock though.... haha
Def crazy. The entire player base is complaining about warlocks. U can just curse any class down with pain spam, its incredibley hard to miss and scaled so well. Would ruin plate wearers.
Putting barbarian in A tier based on Skinny Pete is actually insane. It's only viable in solos.. he could never run that playstyle in trios unless has has 2 backliners. Literally all barbarians can do is left click and fighters do that better. Barbarians should easily be B or PISS tier. We get 3-4 shot by rogues even with 220 and 30% pdr and can't touch any other class without having disgustingly high move speed.
@@redypo fighter would easily be the best, classes like warlock, rogue, wizard, or just classes with low HP base stats and reliant on gear would be objectively worse. Barb would also be good, bard would be fine too, same with ranger but ranger would probably be really low damage at base gear.
i think alot of people were complaining about curse, it would do like 40% of your health and then continue to tick, but honestly if they just removed phantomize and made you fucks actually have to learn to kite and space like every other class in the game i wouldnt mind a damage revert
I was testing this around with my friends when we were on match ends and on classes like fighter and rogue you do 20-25% hp a curse bards take around 20. clerics and barbarians just laugh at you, on other warlocks it depends if they have antimagic or not wizards usually have a bit lower res than locks but more hp. Ranger is the same as a rogue druid no idea cuz none of my friends play it. This was all done at around 50-60%power bonus with an lg book Number ofc differ depending if you have add or true Curse damage was not a problem it was just people constantly bitching about warlocks. Last thing i wouldn't mind if they did something to phantomize if warlock had ANY other fucking movement tool for fuck's sake. Is it strong ? Yea pretty strong the problem is that it's mandatory same deal as fighter sprint not running it just throwing
It’s all situational I think fighting a warlock is all in movement and dodging not being able to take a lot of curses, but I’d rather have a damage nerf than a tm nerf tbh
What is bis? Best in slot? Also, i think you may be suffering from brainrot unfortunately 😞 “goated” “bro” “smacked” “cooked” “giga”. Im praying for you dawg. Keep fighting it
What are the 4 best perks for cleric? I like blunt weapon, faithfulness, perseverance, protection from evil, and magic healer but I wasn’t sure which one should be dropped. I was thinking you drop the 5 additional on your heal but I genuinely am not sure what is best. What are your thoughts?
@@Kaldrean no spell = perseverance + pfe + blunt wep mastery + faithfulness With spells = Perseverance + pfe + adv healer + faithfulness I don’t main the class tho watch poshypop for a really good cleric guide fs
Yeap a few of us have been discussing on how to make it viable with the stats and since magic fighter gear is cheap as heck. Experiment as much as possible man.
You are, indeed, crazy to think nobody was complaining about warlock damage. Glad they got nerfed - not saying it wasn’t too much but they’ve been a problem the past few weeks. Also RIP Druid
@@partychip I stomped a Fighter and a Rogue with that build earlier today, and then died shortly after to a third Rogue in the tightest hallway in the game. The Halberd damage buff was incredible. Currently running Halberd, Spellbook, Shadow Hood, Occultist Tunic+Pants, Laced Turnshoes, Light Gauntlets Demon Armor, Shadow Touch (To heal 2 of the 3 health cost from swinging with Power of Sacrifice, and to crank Halberd damage every point that I can), Vampirism, and Torture Mastery, although I think I may swap TM out for Dark Reflection soon. Blow of Corruption is a given. Even with all white gear, can crank out more than 100 damage on headshots when buffed up. Better gear just lets you pump that even higher.
As someone who has recently started playing the game and devoting my time to learning wizard, the reason why wizard is weak is because they need to use spells to do well in PvE. The fact that bonk wizard exists because of enflame is because it allows double magic damage scaling. For changes this does nothing because arcane shield will still deal the same amount of damage. Anyways, right now wizards are really hard to play unless you have the right gear or you mastered the game.
This isn’t entirely true you don’t need spells to kill mobs should be saving them for pvp, at least with the bonk build and enough strength add/true magic dmg you can two tap most pve which is better than some classes
Trading 1 for one arrows yes fighter is better, but ranger can put more arrows down range way faster, also fighter in plate will never come close to rangers ability to kite, fighter is not a better ranger they just have a strong ranged option now
Ironmace continues to disappoint. Torture mastery should be removed from the game and replaced with a perk that gives more spell damage for more health costs, a curse that gives health if you kill the target while they're cursed, and the ability to move while life drain like you can with meme beam. And the rest of warlock should be more fleshed out. It's an absolute joke that they actually wasted dev resources on nerfing TM AGAIN rather than just removing it. The pride they have to not remove it is just ridiculous at this point. Very sad this game is being ruined by idiot devs The issue has always been move speed. Not torture mastery
slow with a barbarian? the class designed to not wear chest armor? Am confused. Felling axe, loose trousers makes you fast af. War cry and achillies strike means there's no running.
id say rondel because its the best weapon to just stand and trade melee attacks with and even though rogues use them for burst damage i think its better for fighter
How good is rogue? I just started playing and i get demolished by spearmans especially the ice zone, i love to sneak but as soon as i stab someone i instantly die lol, one swipe or their sword im done, i check their damage taken after i die its 1/6th of their health
@@0TTERBRO rogue is only really good with good gear, and only good when you fully ambush someone, without both you are just a loot piñata in the dungeon
Wizard is strong but the fact that u are extra squeeshy and kinda slow feel bad if u dont know, as a wizard its all about mid range if someone get into ur mid range even if u dont kill u have to supress if u dont u dead if u do they run
Yeah barb is easily B or piss tier. He best his ranking entirely off of skinny pete doing weird shit in solo goblin caves. Barb has only one decent matchup right now and it's vs wizard, but even then a juiced wizard is going to potentially outbonk you.
I just started playing (only 4 hours in) and got a Ranger character because I like using bow and arrow, but you've said fighters can also use bow and arrow and they are higher up in the tier list. Should I change to fighter or is fine to stay with ranger? Frankly I don't use the traps much, but I do like the rations and being able to make bonfires quick for my friends.
After a couple hundred hours you’ll realize they play VERY differently, ranger is like a rogue hunter, with traps, u and a bunch of utility. Fighter, is good at fighting, any and everything considering it now has good long and short range combat. However anything can be kited properly if you know the map, general consensus imo, a high skill ranger beats a high skill fighter every time.
Just play what you like if you just got the game, don’t force yourself into a meta build if you don’t want to but, but objectively fighter can use bow and do more than ranger can, but ranger has specific skill set to make bows more efficient if that makes sense
I am a warlock main I do occasionally play fighter and ranger, What I really want to have when playing warlock is spear, I really don't think it will break the class, Replace quarterstaff or bardiche but please give me spear for warlock I really want to play with spear as warlock makes me sad I can't use it. I never use bardiche and quarterstaff as warlock, AT least make the halberd have its first attack as a poke attack
and for that reason it’s hard for me to imagine balancing it. The fighter buffs are retarded lol I tried halberd with combo attack in greens and I hit 165 on the third hit bro like fuck lol
i been bitching bc cleric and rogue untouched and buffed but they hit tort mast again... so screw the lock guide you had lined up fa me gang. everyone hates our damn class man and it wasnt that op to begin with. i think you should learn some wiz for me brother so maybe i can get on it but these patches crazy. fuck us lock mains ig lets buff rogue and cleric some more lmfao.
the cope is unreal if you think warlock isnt/wasnt busted. warlock can solo the entire game. stop whining that your overtuned class got a much needed nerf, and go play one of the 5 other warlock builds that was completely untouched by this update.
But but but but warlock is op and needs millions of nerfs why a tier. I really enjoy warlock and warlock is no where near as op as people claim, just close the gap and you win the fight. Again I really enjoy warlock, I dont do hydra life steal build imo seems dumb just hit your shots w curse of pain you'll be fine, but I can agree the hydra life steal has got to be nerfed it's annoying af.
I dont think rogue needs a nerf per say but a change. Rogue is only good rn cause they are just playing cringe, if that gets nerfed then they got nothing. Im a fighter main and i honestly thought the mastery changes were crazy, i dont think we needed all that.
@@redmin3r311 agree on rogue agree on mastery, rogues playstyle is cringe and I play rogue but I’m more of like an entry kill when the opponent least suspects not, a creep flanker rogue
Bro as someone from the old days, I wish they would quit forcing rogue into STRICTLY a creep and hide class. Give it some variability by doing things such as: make smoke pots / caltrops rechargeable, fixing double jump to be more reasonable to take, maybe add perks for rogues other skills than hide. It’s wild they give the damn class 6 different skills and yet out of all of the perks basically 4 of them are related to hide. No smoke pot perks, no caltrop perks, no rupture perks, this game is the illusion that you can build a character how you want but in reality you play a class how the devs want you to or else they make damn sure you do next patch
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Backline cleric was not buffed. Solo cleric was buffed since their spells can't even be used against most people and they can't handle pressure with no mobility.
I'd add any class where it's like "this isn't fun and it's also the only way to play the class" is severely broken and needs all it's other setups buffed. That's rogue, it's also cleric. Walking around naked with a lantern as a shield class using ale and no spells, it's broke my guy stop nerfing it.
I heard a rumor that Royced has facial features that resemble a chiseled Roman statue and can wipe an entire dungeon with only a grey staff and intense focus
@@RealNotASpy real
LMAO. royced is the goat. wizard is awesome but you will lose to a fighter that’s not a dumbass every single time.
@@sai-pv3fv maybe if he has a bow or crossbow, if he’s pure melee were a pretty effective counter
Bards free buffs total the following
+2 all = 14 Stats
+10 Phys power = 10 str
+8 Action speed = 12 dex
+9 Move speed = 9 Agi
So in total for like 5 mem cap you get 45 points of stats for free, not counting all the other songs you get.
balanced
9 move speed is like 11 agi its not 1 to 1
@@zacharysibley3759entirely depends how much agi you had previously
That's not all, you can take a purple viol beat everyone with it, while being below 25
@@Phoenix55rusno you cant
yes less nerf the caster warlock and make more people play demon form. I swear they dont even play their own game
@@05-13 LOL
Bruh.
They don't, now warlock doesn't have any good damage from range now. Bolt of darkness now counts as a projectile and is easy to dodge and cure of pain is nerfed aswell and is only good if you run all magic damage. And warlock is a super squishy class unless you use demon form so gg. They 100% do not play or watch videos on there own game.
They definitely play their game but it seems like they only play with other devs in a bubble
almost can't blame them when 75 percent of the braindead reddit posts are crying how op warlock is
They really didnt need to do druid dirty like that. But hey being able to find herbs will help them survive i guess
@@gavin1221 herbal sensing is bis is this satire
Treant count should be 4>3 not 4>2
@@187Kustom It went from 3 down to 2, not 4 to 2.
@@Frogger601 Treant count before nerf was "4"
@@Frogger601 Their patch notes were wrong. Count was 4 before, not 3. Maybe that is why they messed up the balance - some fool thought it was 3?
I feel like perseverance should be a stacking buff. Like takes 1 dmg off the first instance of damage and it stacks up to 3 or maybe even more for every additional instance of damage.
the main strength of perseverance is from hard countering DoTs...so changing it to counter DoTs even better doesnt make much sense, it should work in reverse taking off the most for 1 hit and then scaling down for consecutive damage
@@jenericjoe7565 Then you will just block 6 dmg in total :/
Putting wizard is S tier in this rogue meta feels like a crime to me
The meta isn't rogue
It's movement speed and just that.
Usually movement speed + bow/crossbow or magic and kiting anyone with lesser movement speed who can't catch up.
Fighters are buffed while one of their biggest counters are nerfed(warlock). Lobbys are gonna be FULL of fighters
Let them come, i need some longsword practice
They already where, now it will get worse.
Coming from a newb fighter who only played 80 hr now.. my worst enemies are clerics lol
Good. Game is the most fun when lobbies are filled with fighters instead of rogues and warlocks
Based@@michaelarcanists
3:41 u could get pretty cheesy numbers out of curse of pain if you built right
This is correct.
how so? stacking full true or magi power? or both?
@@partychip unless its changed recently, the initial curse dot scales, with magic damage, on the soma darkest hour podcast they showcase srslysoapy getting almost 3 shot by curses lol
@@Midwestemoisme oh sorry I thought u meant AFTER patch my fault
then if you add curse of strength you can double stack the - stack
Solo HR Wizard is fucking AIDS. I main Wizard and it's like C or D tier right now. Wizard is only shines in trios, also Cleric is A at most it got nerfed hard.
Love the editing video was really entertaining and still informative
@@xioh_3171 thanks brotha
@@partychip bot account.
protection from perseverance is lowk genius ngl
@@atari-bs4424 they call me Albert eyenstein
I've briefly played with the changes to meditate. Overload, meditate, 10% magic power and knowledge, and I just keep blasting, for the first time in PvE as well. I feel like a real wizard for the first time in the game. Shame it still requires a steep investment with it taking up a skill slot, and some perk slots as well. Also the Crystal Sword still seems incredibly weak even with ignite, maybe that's just me.
wiz might be back yea
Can confirm everything said about Royced is 110% true
I think bard is BIS and has almost no bad matchup. Survival bow spam with dex and acalrity for range and shriek of weakness melts pdr. I am also running around with 300 move speed without accelerando and 45-50 pdr. Still get landmind tho..
i think since warlock got nerfed and no one plays wizard this is true, but it does have some counter in melee you just gotta play extremely well
A good Barb or slayer in equal gear will smoke you if you’re not careful and play around your bow to get chip damage & debuffs, so you have to put in effort to kill those classes
@@michaelarcanistsyou don’t really need effort against barb as bard and fighter is the same flavor but at least fighter has range so barb can’t just auto win
I bursted out laughing when you said rouge solos playstile is „diabolicly cringe“
Just got killed by a rouge in solo‘s and watched him play for 2 minutes. He was playing sneaking 5 meters… waiting…. sneaking 5 meters….. waiting.
I actually just alt f4 outta the game after seeing that shit
Such an interactive play style lmao
I like the game, i dont have problems with rogues on all classes i play, majority of times that i die i get kitted(enemys outrun me with bard or archer and yes its frustrating) there are guys that outplay us, but we have to up our game and learn the game i feel much more confortable now compared when i started. But yeah you are right if you find Dimo youtuber with any class your fucked 😂
First time the DD algo gave me a video of yours and already I'm smiling at your edits... good energy, good content, good comedy, maaaan just take this sub brah. And RIP to my front line cleric as a new player of like a month and a cleric main in mostly solos... nerf nerf nerf... I know I know.. W Key warrior.. but game is hard man. Sorry about your Warlock though.... haha
thanks brotha
In my opinion I would put warlock is in s tier because of bossing and life drain hydra strategy but for the rest I agree.
Def crazy. The entire player base is complaining about warlocks. U can just curse any class down with pain spam, its incredibley hard to miss and scaled so well. Would ruin plate wearers.
If they want to nerf warlock they should remove the self healing on the hydra
As usual, thanks for the love given to the ranger Iron mace! ❤ we "truly" love you
Putting barbarian in A tier based on Skinny Pete is actually insane. It's only viable in solos.. he could never run that playstyle in trios unless has has 2 backliners. Literally all barbarians can do is left click and fighters do that better.
Barbarians should easily be B or PISS tier. We get 3-4 shot by rogues even with 220 and 30% pdr and can't touch any other class without having disgustingly high move speed.
Can you do a tier list for below 25 gear score with maxed vendors and one green piece of armor?
@@redypo fighter would easily be the best, classes like warlock, rogue, wizard, or just classes with low HP base stats and reliant on gear would be objectively worse. Barb would also be good, bard would be fine too, same with ranger but ranger would probably be really low damage at base gear.
@@partychip most people play gear 25 so its a good vid idea
Whatever people want to say about warlock, i would say the classes are the best they have ever been balancing wise right now.
That handsome, 6'9, buff Unc guy was spitting some truth
5'4 300lbs MAX
@@partychip im 4'11 350 am i cooked
@@PackCentral you got potential
@@partychip thanks bro i knew it
i think alot of people were complaining about curse, it would do like 40% of your health and then continue to tick, but honestly if they just removed phantomize and made you fucks actually have to learn to kite and space like every other class in the game i wouldnt mind a damage revert
I was testing this around with my friends when we were on match ends and on classes like fighter and rogue you do 20-25% hp a curse bards take around 20. clerics and barbarians just laugh at you, on other warlocks it depends if they have antimagic or not wizards usually have a bit lower res than locks but more hp. Ranger is the same as a rogue druid no idea cuz none of my friends play it.
This was all done at around 50-60%power bonus with an lg book
Number ofc differ depending if you have add or true
Curse damage was not a problem it was just people constantly bitching about warlocks.
Last thing i wouldn't mind if they did something to phantomize if warlock had ANY other fucking movement tool for fuck's sake.
Is it strong ? Yea pretty strong the problem is that it's mandatory same deal as fighter sprint not running it just throwing
It’s all situational I think fighting a warlock is all in movement and dodging not being able to take a lot of curses, but I’d rather have a damage nerf than a tm nerf tbh
Tbh yeah I think we do another patch where we nerf druid again
holy cwap dude i told you what would happen if u keep making me blush this means war
excellent video tho 👏
Honestly really enjoying no-hide Rogue, still creeping around but it feels a little less bs than landmine.
bard should definitely be BIS tier and fighter should be top of S tbh
People sleep on bard too hard when that class actually doesn’t have a real counter
Nooooo the torture mastery nerf hurts my soul
@@isaacthegreat1 class is cheeks now 💀
What is bis? Best in slot? Also, i think you may be suffering from brainrot unfortunately 😞 “goated” “bro” “smacked” “cooked” “giga”. Im praying for you dawg. Keep fighting it
@@Terran0va_Plays you should watch the live streams bro the brain rot is immense
Fighter with a a bow being a better ranger than ranger is actually D&D accurate.
thank you for making a tier list with the lowest being b
@@zerdodylan no classes are unplayable imo
with the nerf of prot from evil, u can faithfulness + smite combo like u used to. small oversight
@@maximesavard-beaudoin560 if u build any debuff duration faithfulness doesn’t even work
srslysoapy has a twitch clip of him just dying to 4 or 5 back to back dots, it was featured in the most recent Darkest Hour ep with Soda Poppin.
@@AlDenteDawn I’ll take a look at it that’s actually pretty funny if that’s what caused the nerfs
What are the 4 best perks for cleric? I like blunt weapon, faithfulness, perseverance, protection from evil, and magic healer but I wasn’t sure which one should be dropped. I was thinking you drop the 5 additional on your heal but I genuinely am not sure what is best. What are your thoughts?
@@Kaldrean no spell = perseverance + pfe + blunt wep mastery + faithfulness
With spells =
Perseverance + pfe + adv healer + faithfulness
I don’t main the class tho watch poshypop for a really good cleric guide fs
@@partychip you must have blunt wep mastery there's no choice
Demonlock is still strong as hell so I'ma keep running that. Especially with the new swarm of rangerfighters.
@@BucketKingu yea but I want tm lock to just be balanced 😭😭
@@partychip they could give it 3 base and not have any scaling, I don't think that'd be too busted
@@nicholashaarlos9165 no scaling would be the best option at this point, euth said that too
why didnt they nerf demonlock holyyyyy that build ruins the game
The crystal sword fighter build is now viable!?
@@mrbubs3328 gg
Yeap a few of us have been discussing on how to make it viable with the stats and since magic fighter gear is cheap as heck. Experiment as much as possible man.
You are, indeed, crazy to think nobody was complaining about warlock damage. Glad they got nerfed - not saying it wasn’t too much but they’ve been a problem the past few weeks.
Also RIP Druid
My duo won’t be happy about the TM nerf . . .
😔gg were cooked
@@partychip good warlocks are insufferable
Now it's time for Halberd + Power of Sacrifice + Blow of Corruption. Throw on that +Str cloth gear and get to work
@@emoment1088 it actually works I tried a halberd build
@@partychip I stomped a Fighter and a Rogue with that build earlier today, and then died shortly after to a third Rogue in the tightest hallway in the game.
The Halberd damage buff was incredible.
Currently running Halberd, Spellbook, Shadow Hood, Occultist Tunic+Pants, Laced Turnshoes, Light Gauntlets
Demon Armor, Shadow Touch (To heal 2 of the 3 health cost from swinging with Power of Sacrifice, and to crank Halberd damage every point that I can), Vampirism, and Torture Mastery, although I think I may swap TM out for Dark Reflection soon.
Blow of Corruption is a given. Even with all white gear, can crank out more than 100 damage on headshots when buffed up. Better gear just lets you pump that even higher.
As someone who has recently started playing the game and devoting my time to learning wizard, the reason why wizard is weak is because they need to use spells to do well in PvE. The fact that bonk wizard exists because of enflame is because it allows double magic damage scaling.
For changes this does nothing because arcane shield will still deal the same amount of damage.
Anyways, right now wizards are really hard to play unless you have the right gear or you mastered the game.
You don’t need spells to well in pve you just need to be good at the game also not a single person was using arcane shield for its damage .
@@tofastninj9747 yea pve is a common complaint but you do have invis to re aggro mobs
This isn’t entirely true you don’t need spells to kill mobs should be saving them for pvp, at least with the bonk build and enough strength add/true magic dmg you can two tap most pve which is better than some classes
Staff mastery with staff 2 or 3 hit PvE mobs,u don't need spells at all just need to learn mobs attack pattern
6:08 Magical healing does not matter for draining the snake, it doesn't scale with it
He didn't mean for life drain
They've killed druid😭
New méta be like : speed move and damage, nah never a new meta since a while
So basically warlock curse mastery build isn’t feasible anymore.
it's just as strong in
Hoping Paladin Cleric stays strong so I can keep praising the sun. \o/
Trading 1 for one arrows yes fighter is better, but ranger can put more arrows down range way faster, also fighter in plate will never come close to rangers ability to kite, fighter is not a better ranger they just have a strong ranged option now
Ironmace continues to disappoint. Torture mastery should be removed from the game and replaced with a perk that gives more spell damage for more health costs, a curse that gives health if you kill the target while they're cursed, and the ability to move while life drain like you can with meme beam. And the rest of warlock should be more fleshed out. It's an absolute joke that they actually wasted dev resources on nerfing TM AGAIN rather than just removing it. The pride they have to not remove it is just ridiculous at this point. Very sad this game is being ruined by idiot devs
The issue has always been move speed. Not torture mastery
Always wanted to move with lifedrain and use it in a fight and on mobs not just hydra
Not gonna lie I feel like ranger is the worst class in the game now, because fighter can use bows and have any primary weapon.
Ya basically
Why would you want rogue nerfed when fighter is better?
I feel like it needs a rework tbh
It feels like they flip a coin for the weekly buff or nerf hammer
slow with a barbarian? the class designed to not wear chest armor? Am confused. Felling axe, loose trousers makes you fast af. War cry and achillies strike means there's no running.
@@pf4877 yea I actually agree with this now
What are the best weapons to try as fighter now - Rondel, rapier,...?
id say rondel because its the best weapon to just stand and trade melee attacks with and even though rogues use them for burst damage i think its better for fighter
Skinny Pete actually dies a lot, he just doesn’t put it in his videos. B is for Barbarian.
@@Jungus1999 skinny is my goat
He die a lot but 1 he play a lot and 2 he never play a real build for barberian
How mutch time u see him with a bis purple/legendary Gear?
Never
@@lordvon_3490 yea that’s what I’m saying he never runs good gear and u see him killing way more geared players
life drain warlock in solos is good, afterdeath hit top solos with it the previous 2 seasons
How good is rogue? I just started playing and i get demolished by spearmans especially the ice zone, i love to sneak but as soon as i stab someone i instantly die lol, one swipe or their sword im done, i check their damage taken after i die its 1/6th of their health
@@0TTERBRO rogue is only really good with good gear, and only good when you fully ambush someone, without both you are just a loot piñata in the dungeon
Actually you can abuse rogue in 25-124 dungeons. Just take good green gear and 3 tap everyone.@@partychip
@@Hitman5548Channel also true
@@Hitman5548Channel in general when ppl say green gear it seems doing merchant quest gives access to better items right?
@@0TTERBRO green gear is just gear with good stats in 25-124 gear score pool.
Torture mastery just feels bad to play now it’s kinda sad how hard they hit the healing scaling and cop damage
It feels horrible played it on stream and tbf I only died to landmine rogue but the healing was cheeks
0:55 it was me
evil
2:52 i have been searching for this song to pull the sound for a soundboard for so long, what is it called
Me and the birds duster
@@partychip legend thank you
They didn’t nerf rogue because you literally can’t nerf rogue without making it un-playable
Real
if you're getting mad at locust swarm getting buffed your opinion is invalid on anything buff and nerf related
LOL nah it’s the fact the back line cleric got buffed the class is already strong without the buffs
Wizard is strong but the fact that u are extra squeeshy and kinda slow feel bad if u dont know, as a wizard its all about mid range if someone get into ur mid range even if u dont kill u have to supress if u dont u dead if u do they run
look, they buff durid so much. Now they can find herbs easily
IVE BEEN SAYING FIGHTERS SHOULD ONLY HAVE CROSSBOWS FOREVER
and bards shouldn't have bows at all
So every class is great or amazing
Skinny Peter got that long reach
No pause
Homie didn't even talk about the buff from cobalt for rogue
SHHHHH
My poor barb is getting owned by every other melee class:(
Yeah barb is easily B or piss tier. He best his ranking entirely off of skinny pete doing weird shit in solo goblin caves. Barb has only one decent matchup right now and it's vs wizard, but even then a juiced wizard is going to potentially outbonk you.
TM is dead! lets fucking gooooooo
Bro must play warlock with how he's talkin
@@BigMacCeo maybeee
Weapon mastery needed a buff.
seeing those warlock nerfs actually made cry 😢
we want a meta build for fighter!
as a fighter main weapon mastery buff was moronic and nobody asked for it.
They still cry about rogue😂
saying druid is worst class... dont need see more to know u iq lvl
i guess fighter still Bis? rogue got nerfed but warlock is buffed
Brother l have seen some wizards they are just so good with the class that pwning at pvp
yea now they are dumb strong this was from a while ago
make perseverance tank 4 hp, not 2, not 3! BUFF CLERIC
Backline cleric buff is absurd
Not only blatantly disregarding the problem but disrespecting everyone else who needs buffs lmao
rogue needs buffs wtf... only being able to rat sucks
I just started playing (only 4 hours in) and got a Ranger character because I like using bow and arrow, but you've said fighters can also use bow and arrow and they are higher up in the tier list. Should I change to fighter or is fine to stay with ranger? Frankly I don't use the traps much, but I do like the rations and being able to make bonfires quick for my friends.
After a couple hundred hours you’ll realize they play VERY differently, ranger is like a rogue hunter, with traps, u and a bunch of utility. Fighter, is good at fighting, any and everything considering it now has good long and short range combat. However anything can be kited properly if you know the map, general consensus imo, a high skill ranger beats a high skill fighter every time.
Just play what you like if you just got the game, don’t force yourself into a meta build if you don’t want to but, but objectively fighter can use bow and do more than ranger can, but ranger has specific skill set to make bows more efficient if that makes sense
thanks for the comments, its nice seeing this game has more depth than it seems. I'll just stick to ranger for now maybe later I'll try fighter lmao
this video made me sub. good video
I love this fighter hater channel. Its so funny
I am a warlock main I do occasionally play fighter and ranger, What I really want to have when playing warlock is spear, I really don't think it will break the class, Replace quarterstaff or bardiche but please give me spear for warlock I really want to play with spear as warlock makes me sad I can't use it. I never use bardiche and quarterstaff as warlock, AT least make the halberd have its first attack as a poke attack
It could be cool if melee attacks were different on different classes like halberd would be a swing on fighter but a poke on lock
I played slayer with falcion and stilleto and the weapon mastery change is nice but it's not crazy its a 10% cuange. Haven't tried rapier yet tho
Stilleto rondell slaps
@@BornToKill780 been using this 💀
@@partychip using short sword and morning star at slayer, it's cool
Like I can still heal off everything nothing changed all it did was make me have to up magical power so I can 4 hit people with curse of pain
imagine thinking fighter dont need buffs 🤣
party chip: glazes
also party chip: no glaze 🗿
it just sucks torture mastery is so good at solo’ing bosses, it can kill troll in 2 mins, troll in 4 and wyvern in 6 lol
and for that reason it’s hard for me to imagine balancing it. The fighter buffs are retarded lol I tried halberd with combo attack in greens and I hit 165 on the third hit bro like fuck lol
@frwog mentioned 🗣
i been bitching bc cleric and rogue untouched and buffed but they hit tort mast again... so screw the lock guide you had lined up fa me gang. everyone hates our damn class man and it wasnt that op to begin with. i think you should learn some wiz for me brother so maybe i can get on it but these patches crazy. fuck us lock mains ig lets buff rogue and cleric some more lmfao.
@@biggiedoinmost22 yea bro i might make a lock guide on how to deal with the insane nerfs but idk anymore #buffcleric
the cope is unreal if you think warlock isnt/wasnt busted. warlock can solo the entire game. stop whining that your overtuned class got a much needed nerf, and go play one of the 5 other warlock builds that was completely untouched by this update.
@@dinen5000 classic rogue cleric player
@@biggiedoinmost22 try again. i play fighter and ranger.
But but but but warlock is op and needs millions of nerfs why a tier. I really enjoy warlock and warlock is no where near as op as people claim, just close the gap and you win the fight. Again I really enjoy warlock, I dont do hydra life steal build imo seems dumb just hit your shots w curse of pain you'll be fine, but I can agree the hydra life steal has got to be nerfed it's annoying af.
I’m a warlock main too, but I understand that phantomize is strong, especially for solos
this lsit for solo duos or trios ? specify dude
Warlock nerfs and Bow fighter buffs are p cursed. Depressed
@@sparrow7123 bad timeline
I dont think rogue needs a nerf per say but a change. Rogue is only good rn cause they are just playing cringe, if that gets nerfed then they got nothing. Im a fighter main and i honestly thought the mastery changes were crazy, i dont think we needed all that.
@@redmin3r311 agree on rogue agree on mastery, rogues playstyle is cringe and I play rogue but I’m more of like an entry kill when the opponent least suspects not, a creep flanker rogue
Bro as someone from the old days, I wish they would quit forcing rogue into STRICTLY a creep and hide class. Give it some variability by doing things such as: make smoke pots / caltrops rechargeable, fixing double jump to be more reasonable to take, maybe add perks for rogues other skills than hide. It’s wild they give the damn class 6 different skills and yet out of all of the perks basically 4 of them are related to hide.
No smoke pot perks, no caltrop perks, no rupture perks, this game is the illusion that you can build a character how you want but in reality you play a class how the devs want you to or else they make damn sure you do next patch
@@lokai765 bro I can’t agree more double jump smokepot caltrops need to be viable
Not that this will always be the case, though I deleted one of those juicer pdr rondel fighters today on my crystal sword boc warlock 😁
Just downloaded the game would love to pair up and learn it from a seasoned player!!!!
Warlock A ???? he can farm all boss solo and got 5k gold per run in normal because he broken and no one can kill him
you sound like a new player