Thanks for your great video upload. Before two weeks ago I was against getting an electric car. Then by chance the Uber I booked turned out to be a Tesla. I was impressed. Then I I did a test drive in the new model three. Now I’m hooked. I take delivery mid May can’t wait.
Just did my first Melb - northern NSW road trip for Easter. Learnt lots. I’ve found that I end up being longer charging than needed due to doggie walks, and find if I re-navigate to my destination after, the car recalculates and skips charging stops it initially suggests. Some of the charging stops are pretty bad if you’re there after hours- nothing is open and no one is around. On the way back I was way more relaxed about letting my % drop lower. I also found that after about 20 mins of driving the navigation % calculation is more accurate.
Yes we find in general when at charging stops the car is ready to go before we are. ☺️ That’s a good point about things not being great outside of “office hours” We generally always travel during the day, so haven’t come across that much, but a good point. I find that every time we do a love drive we get more and more comfortable with going into the teens of the battery. Though I am less keen when with the family. 🤷🏻♂️😂 As often in those cases we are doing a really long drive and just want to barrel through. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with me.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment. We are actually in Sydney today on our way back from the Gold Coast, so in a few weeks you should be able to watch the video of this road trip. 🙏🏼☺️
Yeah, we could totally handle it. In fact if you go watch my video about towing the electric Delorean to Canberra we got down to 0% at one point. But I find that when I am driving somewhere with the family I am less keen to be adventurous if that makes sense. ☺️
Loved it when Wang opened. Was at $0.30 pkwh from 9pm to 9am at first. Was great until they caught on and now $0.70 all the time;(. I have tried to get wife to stop there when going to wang, but she likes Euroa.
That's a shame, also a shame that the wife would rather stop at Euroa. I think if you have a packed picnic then Euroa is lovely but otherwise, loads more options of things to do when stopping in Wang.
@@notacarguy_au Her and kiddo seem to like it since toilets across the way. And less manic than the shell stop. I like stopping at Euroa Chargefox due to RACV discount, but they are STILL de rated. Was hoping the KemPower swap over would be done there, but no movement yet. Wang chargers are a little werid to get to as on top of car parking tower. And it’s TIGHT turns
26:07 fyi, ABRP can connect to car. Not sure if can with other EVs, but I signed in with my Tesla app details and get live data for planning. Works away from car so might need to pay the fee for data stuff on Tesla
Thanks for another timely road trip vid Lee. I’m about to do (a shortish) one in a few days (Adelaide to Robe) and you’ve provided lots of useful tips.
Great video again. I usually like to skip Goulburn as it’s a fair way off the highway, so I charge up to around 90% at Gundagai so I can reach Exeter. I admit I do this so I can have a pie and sausage roll too😂
Yeah, we only just found the Exeter stop this last week on our way to the Gold Coast, those are really nice pies and totally the best reason to aim for that stop. ☺️
Actually sitting at Broad Beach right now topping up as we are driving back home tomorrow morning. Watching the weather very closely. Hopefully it improves over the next 18 hours or so. 😳 otherwise we will just take it slow and steady.
@@notacarguy_au Yes the weather up this way is terrible at the moment! Hope it hasn’t ruined your holiday too much mate. Take care on the way back too. Have you recorded any of the trip up to Qld? Would love to watch that too!!!
Oh yes, we recorded the whole trip up. Not sure how long it will take me to edit. 🤣 Till yesterday we were pretty lucky with the weather. Had a great time. Kids have had a blast. But definitely time to go home. 😀
I heard a good explanation of why charging takes longer past 80% being like putting 1000 people into a 1000 seat theatre. The first 800 go in pretty quick but the last 200 take a lot longer to find a spare seat and sit down.
G'Day. Next time you use ABRP, try excluding Tesla, and chargers less than 101 kWh - you will be amazed at the 'other' fast charging spots there are, that simply don't appear in my Telsa navigator. 😞
That’s a good suggestion. When in a Tesla I generally try to only use the Tesla chargers. Feel a bit guilty using a non Tesla charger and possibly taking a non teslas spot. Though not as much as I used to as so many of the superchargers are now open to non Teslas.
Amother great roadtrip video. Re comment at 55min. Quite a few non-Tesla (chargefox, Evie, bp) chargers are now in the in-car map, and the car will pre-condition to these. When on the map, touch it then press the lightning button to see third party chargers around you. (This change happened for Aus cars a month or so ago) At 61m. My experience is the car will force adding stops if arrival percentage is below 10%.. you can force lower in ABRP. At 65. Unfortunately Holbrook RSL has signs up saying toilets for customers only (and like and RSL in NSW you have to sign in and the like) At 77. Believe the NRMA chargers had issues with water and the road surface turning to mud further along that back road. (And the answer to your wifes qn should have been the top or larger plug, the smaller one is for old S/X only) And Olivers nuggets - organic chicken is a thing, versus cage bred.. and no preservatives and stuff in the crumb
I just wanted to add to your autopilot comments, what I feel is I can concentrate on different parts of driving, like looking further ahead and being able to predict lane changes better, look at road conditions further ahead too, little things that can otherwise be overlooked. I can also spend a bit more time checking the blind spot without having to indicate. In addition, you can also set the speed to maximum by holding down the right stalk for about 2-3 seconds, it saves removing your hands from the steering wheel. One thing that does annoy me are the false or phantom alerts and inexplicable braking, it really makes passengers feel uneasy, especially those not accustomed to EV or Tesla driving. It's also not a great look for Tesla in general, because many people think everything works perfectly, which it doesn't. With my EAP, I quite liked the auto exit ramp on the freeway, but other than that it wasn't really worth the $5100 purchase. I never used the call function to get out of a tight car space and the self-parking is a bit of a gimmick and really slow. When I purchased my car I used a friend's referral code and I got $400 off the purchase price and 3 months EAP and my friend got 10,000 referral points. There's also a loyalty programme that will give you 10,000 points when you purchase another Tesla vehicle. I'm assuming that'd still work if you you trade in for a newer car and not have to purchase an additional car to be eligible.
That’s a really good point, I hadn’t thought of that it allows me to be more aware of the traffic around me. I agree that it’s not really worth the $5100. Mandy always says she’d love it if they broke it up and we could buy seperate features of it instead of the whole package. I’ve found the exit ramp feature to be pretty bad in out experience. It either doesn’t work at all, or changes lanes too late, or even half changes lanes and then swerves back into the original lane. So I leave it off when I drive.
@@notacarguy_au Yeah, I have the same thinking as your wife, Mandy. It's a bit like the Foxtel packages with all those channels you'd never watch. I've never had an issue with ramp exits, but lanes changes definitely, it's quite disconcerting, tbh.
Hi! Fun video! V3 chargers do not share power anymore. Only V1/2 that did do that. As long as numbers are A1-4 and B1-4 instead of A1-2 and B1-2 then you'll be fine. Power is shared between all stalls.
Yes right, if A1-2 B-2 etc power share between 1-2 pairs. V3 can be either A1-4, like Yass, or A1-3 like Holbrook. There is still power share but it is site wide so no need, though maybe still polite to leave some extra space.
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about that a bit more on the road trip we’ve been on. On the one hand would be better to get to a faster charger, but then again, we are kind limited to what chargers are on the route often. But yes, ideally we’d aim for the faster chargers whenever possible. I find though, often when on these drives there is some much to think about in terms of driving, filming, talking to camera and all that. My brain can only focus on so much, or so little as the case may be. 😂
Did the Melbourne - Sydney trip in January 2024 in our 2021 M3LR. Depart Melb CBD at 100% SoC arrived Albury (33% then charge 35mins to 89%) then Yass (23% then charge 28mins to 80%) then arrived Sydney 23% SoC. In hindsight would probably stop at Holbrook at a lower SoC and Exeter (if required) for faster charging speeds ⚡️ABRP recommends
That little bit of extra range with the long range must be nice. Though I think I prefer a few more stops to rest a bit and stretch the legs. I find that my bladder has less range than the car these days. 🤣
Am keen to get an EV but when I read this I know I’m not ready yet. My Melbourne Sydney trip is one Gundagai stop so these extra stops are too much for me to accept at this stage of the EV revolution. 1000klm plus from a charge is imminent, will likely take a mini step into a Hybrid next and 5 years from now I expect battery technology to be much more advanced along with infrastructure. I think I speak for the masses with those barriers to entry.
@@jasonbrown3646 Yeah, that's a fair comment, but it depends on your lifestyle/work commitments. I use my EV 100% in the city and have yet to even use a super charger, so it's horses for courses, really.
@@jasonbrown3646 Driving an EV on long trips will always involve more stops. If you regularly drive 1000km with only one 5-minute stop then stay with diesel.
Thank you for a very informative video. I'd love to be convinced to buy a Tesla, but it put me off trading my 2018 BMW X3 30D SUV on a Tesla Model Y, because I would not want to worry about battery state of charge, finding out-of-the-way un-signposted Tesla chargers, whether they will charge at their rated capacity and the much longer time to charge than refuel. My BMW can easily drive MEL/SYD without refuelling, averaging 6.0L/100Km. i.e. $12.00/100Km @$2.00/L for diesel. Teslas use about 17KwH/100Km (worse on long trips due to less regeneration), costing at least $10.20/100Km @ $0.60/KwH when not at home. Is it worth the extra time and angst? My BMW has the equivalent of Tesla Autopilot self-driving and lane keeping. It also has fully autonomous self-parking. I am surprised Teslas lack ultrasonic parking aids and heads up display. My BMW has adaptive suspension for better ride and handling. I don't have to worry about getting locked out of Autopilot. BMW uses periodic capacitive touch of the steering wheel with no need to apply pressure like Tesla. My BMW's 0-100kph acceleration is superior to a RWD Tesla Model Y (5.8s vs 6.9s) and mid-range torque of 620Nm makes for safer overtaking on highways. The BMW also weighs about 100Kg less, making for longer tyre life. Then there is the higher insurance cost for a Tesla. Other than FBT-free salary packaging for some workers and reduction in CO2 emissions in cities, why buy an EV?
You do realise there are loads of other electric cars other than Tesla right? I do agree that the ride in the Model Y could be softer. If an electric car isn't for you, then it isn't for you. I think though most people don't do long drives that often and the beauty of being able to "fill up" your electric car at home each day or night takes a matter of seconds as you plug it in and then go do other things. So for city life, an electric car is far quicker and more convenient to top up. We have the added bonus of having solar and so even in cloudy Melbourne we charge our car most weeks "for free" off our roof. Which is nice. Of course there is a decent size expense for this setup, but once you've made the investment it's pretty nice. For longer drives it does take a bit of thought, but not very much. We literally got back home about an hour ago from driving all the way to the Gold Coast and back. Was an absolute breaze. Luckily we had free supercharger miles from our referall points and so filling up the car the whole 3788km cost us nothing, which is nice. 😊 If driving straight through from Melbourne to Sydney works better for you, then thats great for you, I prefer to have a few stops so that I can stretch the legs for 5 minutes and take a bathroom break. On every stop we've had the car has always been ready to continue the journey before we are.
@@notacarguy_au Your points are valid re city runabout use of an EV. Solar is either not possible or infeasible for strata apartment dwellers, which is approaching half our market and will becoming even more common in our major cities,. Especially in Sydney where there is no land to expand cottage construction. The market has spoken, with EV sales in the US in steep decline, dealers flooded with unsold EVs. Possibly influenced by Ev cold weather charging issues. Then there's Hertz finally realising most customers do not want to rent EVs, incurring unsustainable repair costs and heavy depreciation compared to ICE cars. Each to his own, but the more the rabid Labor/Green socialists try to force feed me an EV, the less likely I am to buy one. Hybrids are in my future, provided I am not forced to pay an EV road use tax for owning a hybrid.
You make a good point about solar not being feasible for apartment dwellers and that is a challenge, but certainly not an unsolvable one. Just as with a petrol car an electric car doesn’t need to be filled each day. So folks who live in apartments can perhaps take their electric car to be topped up once or twice per week. Once again the beauty of not having to be there whilst your car is charging means they could charge it whilst they are doing their grocery shopping or perhaps whilst they are at the gym? I am starting to see more and chargers pop up at locations where folks “linger”. So once again you’re not stoping to charge but rather you are charing whilst you are stopped. In regards to EV sales slowing, I think you’ll find that was a single quarter and only in some markets. So it’s too small a data point to get excited or disappointed about. I think perhaps we should wait a full 12 months and then see where the market is? Both the cold weather and Hertz issues I think come down to lack of training and education. A big part of why I created this UA-cam channel. The repair costs are an issue, but again, I think that’s more of a Tesla issue rather than an overall market issue for all EVs. I don’t think the government is going to force you to buy an EV, I think the market will as in about 5-10 years, most new cars will be electric. I’m enjoying this conversation, but I don’t think I need to convince anyone. Most folks that I know who have switched to an electric car love the experience and would never go back. Of course there are always exceptions to every rule but that has been my experience. My wife is another good example, she was very sceptical and concerned about range and battery and all those things. Once we actually lived with an EV and experienced it, as soon as we can afford it, she will switch her petrol car to electric. I think for many people affordability is the biggest issue. Electric cars are still too expensive and as you mentnmioed before seem to be pricey to insure, though insurance is going up on everything these days. At least the price of the cars is slowing coming down. With hybrids, if that works for you, great. But in my view hybrids seem to be the worst of both worlds. You get all the cost and complexity of a combustion engine and then such a small battery and electric motor that it makes it hardly worthwhile. Having said that, I have never experienced a hybrid and so my opinion is not based on any actual experience. So I could be wrong.@@johnoneill1011
Why buy an EV? Simple, if you like blowing Dino farts into the atmosphere, continue on doing what you are doing. Almost all chargers are now sourcing renewable power, so there's virtually no pollution from an EV any more.
Yeah, we are always learning. I was just saying to Mandy yesterday that it would be nice to do a shorter road trip, but take our time more. I’d love to stop and check out the sights more often. But I find that when we are doing the city to city run, I just want to”get there” if that makes sense. ☺️
All the EV videos I have watched has just showed the anxiety of the owners, 90% of them are on batteries and power. The amount of anxiety these car owners have is really outstanding.
I think perhaps you've misunderstood. We may overplay it a bit for a bit of drama, but there is no anxiety. Long drives are really simple and straight forward. We go into a bit more detail in these videos because we think folks are interested. Then there is also everyday use, when not driving 1000s of km. It's a non issue. We get home, we plug in, we go inside and when we come back out the next day, the car has a full "tank". Most days we don't even plug in. These days we maybe charge it once or twice a week. I think folks who don't have experience with electric cars have a lot of anxiety about battery and range and all that. At least from out experience, once we actually had one and started using it. Those anxieties melted away.
@@notacarguy_au Thanks for reply, I have been looking and making up my mind for quite some time now and have been juggling between Tesla and iX3, but I guess Tesla has lot of tech in it. Your videos encourage to get a ModY, should we get a ModY RW or AWD? We are also looking forward to our Melb to Syd journey once we get one of the EV's.
Whether to go with RWD or AWD I think comes down to your needs and wants. We got the RWD because that’s what we could “only just” afford. 🤣 My brother in law just got the BMW and he’s very happy with it. I think most folks could be happy with either. 😀
We’ve done the drive to Adelaide too - there’s a video on that one. And we’re currently on a road trip back from the Gold Coast so there are other routes for sure. We just haven’t had reason to travel elsewhere!
Oh there are plenty more routes. We’ve done Adelaide and we are right now on our way back from the Gold Coast. I think maybe some time in the next year we will look at doing the coastal route to Sydney. It takes longer, but should be prettier. ☺️
I've done Melb-Cairns via the outback (only one SuperCharger at Dubbo). The total trip was 7500km. Vehicle: Tesla Model Y short range (60kWh battery) RWD.
Thanks for your great video upload. Before two weeks ago I was against getting an electric car. Then by chance the Uber I booked turned out to be a Tesla. I was impressed. Then I I did a test drive in the new model three. Now I’m hooked. I take delivery mid May can’t wait.
Wow! that sounds like you've been on a quite the journey. Welcome to the club. ☺️
I’ll also add that we only eat this bad when on road trips. Because calories don’t count on road trips. 😂
We eat pretty healthy when at home. 😀
Just did my first Melb - northern NSW road trip for Easter. Learnt lots.
I’ve found that I end up being longer charging than needed due to doggie walks, and find if I re-navigate to my destination after, the car recalculates and skips charging stops it initially suggests.
Some of the charging stops are pretty bad if you’re there after hours- nothing is open and no one is around.
On the way back I was way more relaxed about letting my % drop lower. I also found that after about 20 mins of driving the navigation % calculation is more accurate.
Yes we find in general when at charging stops the car is ready to go before we are. ☺️ That’s a good point about things not being great outside of “office hours” We generally always travel during the day, so haven’t come across that much, but a good point. I find that every time we do a love drive we get more and more comfortable with going into the teens of the battery.
Though I am less keen when with the family. 🤷🏻♂️😂 As often in those cases we are doing a really long drive and just want to barrel through. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with me.
I love your road trip videos! They are so comforting to watch and enjoyable as an EVangelist. Saturday night plans sorted 😅
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment. We are actually in Sydney today on our way back from the Gold Coast, so in a few weeks you should be able to watch the video of this road trip. 🙏🏼☺️
You guys should definitely try go lower in % before charging. You'll get way faster charging. You guys can handle it I'm sure.
Yeah, we could totally handle it. In fact if you go watch my video about towing the electric Delorean to Canberra we got down to 0% at one point. But I find that when I am driving somewhere with the family I am less keen to be adventurous if that makes sense. ☺️
Loved it when Wang opened. Was at $0.30 pkwh from 9pm to 9am at first.
Was great until they caught on and now $0.70 all the time;(.
I have tried to get wife to stop there when going to wang, but she likes Euroa.
That's a shame, also a shame that the wife would rather stop at Euroa. I think if you have a packed picnic then Euroa is lovely but otherwise, loads more options of things to do when stopping in Wang.
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Her and kiddo seem to like it since toilets across the way. And less manic than the shell stop.
I like stopping at Euroa Chargefox due to RACV discount, but they are STILL de rated. Was hoping the KemPower swap over would be done there, but no movement yet.
Wang chargers are a little werid to get to as on top of car parking tower. And it’s TIGHT turns
@@notacarguy_aualso the cafe next to Dan Murphy’s just down for Evie charger is also amazing
26:07 fyi, ABRP can connect to car. Not sure if can with other EVs, but I signed in with my Tesla app details and get live data for planning. Works away from car so might need to pay the fee for data stuff on Tesla
I think that feature is part of the paid subscription.
@@notacarguy_au I must be grandfathered, as I’m a free loader, unless mean the Tesla data subscription
Thanks for another timely road trip vid Lee. I’m about to do (a shortish) one in a few days (Adelaide to Robe) and you’ve provided lots of useful tips.
Thanks, so glad the video was helpful, Hope you have a lovely little road trip. ☺️
Great video again.
I usually like to skip Goulburn as it’s a fair way off the highway, so I charge up to around 90% at Gundagai so I can reach Exeter. I admit I do this so I can have a pie and sausage roll too😂
Yeah, we only just found the Exeter stop this last week on our way to the Gold Coast, those are really nice pies and totally the best reason to aim for that stop. ☺️
I loved seeing the food. Being in the US, the snacks and halloumi bowl were new to me. Love your videos. Thanks.
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment about it. Glad you found it interesting. The food was yummy. ☺️
Another fantastic and informative road trip video mate!! Love them! What's happening on the Gold Coast you're coming up for? My neck of the woods! 🙂
Actually sitting at Broad Beach right now topping up as we are driving back home tomorrow morning. Watching the weather very closely. Hopefully it improves over the next 18 hours or so. 😳 otherwise we will just take it slow and steady.
@@notacarguy_au Yes the weather up this way is terrible at the moment! Hope it hasn’t ruined your holiday too much mate. Take care on the way back too. Have you recorded any of the trip up to Qld? Would love to watch that too!!!
Oh yes, we recorded the whole trip up. Not sure how long it will take me to edit. 🤣
Till yesterday we were pretty lucky with the weather. Had a great time. Kids have had a blast. But definitely time to go home. 😀
Hi @notacarguy_au great video and information. Could you please share the link for the ventilated seat covers please?
Thanks. Yes, sorry about not sharing the link. Will put it in the video description now. 😀
Hi Lee, really enjoyed the video, great real world tips. I can’t see a link for the ventilated seats. Did you do a video for them?
G’day Lee, this is his video link for the ventilated seat covers, ua-cam.com/video/ZD7sTu5Owug/v-deo.htmlsi=6J-WvtDgEWqg9MhD
G’day Paul, this is a link for Lee’s video on the ventilated seat covers ua-cam.com/video/ZD7sTu5Owug/v-deo.htmlsi=6J-WvtDgEWqg9MhD
Thanks user. 😀👍🏻🙏🏻
I heard a good explanation of why charging takes longer past 80% being like putting 1000 people into a 1000 seat theatre. The first 800 go in pretty quick but the last 200 take a lot longer to find a spare seat and sit down.
Thanks, that’s a good one too.
Another great video
Thank you for taking the time to say that. 🙏🏻
G'Day. Next time you use ABRP, try excluding Tesla, and chargers less than 101 kWh - you will be amazed at the 'other' fast charging spots there are, that simply don't appear in my Telsa navigator. 😞
That’s a good suggestion. When in a Tesla I generally try to only use the Tesla chargers. Feel a bit guilty using a non Tesla charger and possibly taking a non teslas spot. Though not as much as I used to as so many of the superchargers are now open to non Teslas.
What is the name of the app you use? I also usually charge almost to 95% so we can go longer and it's OK cuz we stay longer to the charger
I’m sorry, I’m not sure which app you’re referring to. What were we talking about in the video?
@@notacarguy_au the app to put your traject and the percentage you want to arrive ...
The app for the traject, that you can put the pourcentage you want to arrive ...
Amother great roadtrip video.
Re comment at 55min.
Quite a few non-Tesla (chargefox, Evie, bp) chargers are now in the in-car map, and the car will pre-condition to these. When on the map, touch it then press the lightning button to see third party chargers around you.
(This change happened for Aus cars a month or so ago)
At 61m. My experience is the car will force adding stops if arrival percentage is below 10%.. you can force lower in ABRP.
At 65. Unfortunately Holbrook RSL has signs up saying toilets for customers only (and like and RSL in NSW you have to sign in and the like)
At 77. Believe the NRMA chargers had issues with water and the road surface turning to mud further along that back road.
(And the answer to your wifes qn should have been the top or larger plug, the smaller one is for old S/X only)
And Olivers nuggets - organic chicken is a thing, versus cage bred.. and no preservatives and stuff in the crumb
Thanks Mark, that's all really good to know. 👍🏼🙏🏻
Pre condition not happening in Wang was likely due to the low state of charge. It was nice and ready for big dump of electrons
Yes, I think that makes the most sense.
I just wanted to add to your autopilot comments, what I feel is I can concentrate on different parts of driving, like looking further ahead and being able to predict lane changes better, look at road conditions further ahead too, little things that can otherwise be overlooked. I can also spend a bit more time checking the blind spot without having to indicate. In addition, you can also set the speed to maximum by holding down the right stalk for about 2-3 seconds, it saves removing your hands from the steering wheel.
One thing that does annoy me are the false or phantom alerts and inexplicable braking, it really makes passengers feel uneasy, especially those not accustomed to EV or Tesla driving. It's also not a great look for Tesla in general, because many people think everything works perfectly, which it doesn't.
With my EAP, I quite liked the auto exit ramp on the freeway, but other than that it wasn't really worth the $5100 purchase. I never used the call function to get out of a tight car space and the self-parking is a bit of a gimmick and really slow.
When I purchased my car I used a friend's referral code and I got $400 off the purchase price and 3 months EAP and my friend got 10,000 referral points. There's also a loyalty programme that will give you 10,000 points when you purchase another Tesla vehicle. I'm assuming that'd still work if you you trade in for a newer car and not have to purchase an additional car to be eligible.
That’s a really good point, I hadn’t thought of that it allows me to be more aware of the traffic around me.
I agree that it’s not really worth the $5100. Mandy always says she’d love it if they broke it up and we could buy seperate features of it instead of the whole package. I’ve found the exit ramp feature to be pretty bad in out experience. It either doesn’t work at all, or changes lanes too late, or even half changes lanes and then swerves back into the original lane. So I leave it off when I drive.
@@notacarguy_au Yeah, I have the same thinking as your wife, Mandy. It's a bit like the Foxtel packages with all those channels you'd never watch.
I've never had an issue with ramp exits, but lanes changes definitely, it's quite disconcerting, tbh.
Hi! Fun video! V3 chargers do not share power anymore. Only V1/2 that did do that. As long as numbers are A1-4 and B1-4 instead of A1-2 and B1-2 then you'll be fine. Power is shared between all stalls.
Thanks for that, I didn’t know that. Gonna be super helpful knowing that going forward. 🙏🏼👍🏼
Yes right, if A1-2 B-2 etc power share between 1-2 pairs. V3 can be either A1-4, like Yass, or A1-3 like Holbrook. There is still power share but it is site wide so no need, though maybe still polite to leave some extra space.
41:24 Wangaratta I think 4% is too scary for you guys.
Also I wouldn't navigate to V2 chargers if I had V3 chargers around
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about that a bit more on the road trip we’ve been on. On the one hand would be better to get to a faster charger, but then again, we are kind limited to what chargers are on the route often. But yes, ideally we’d aim for the faster chargers whenever possible.
I find though, often when on these drives there is some much to think about in terms of driving, filming, talking to camera and all that. My brain can only focus on so much, or so little as the case may be. 😂
thanks guys great trip
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Did the Melbourne - Sydney trip in January 2024 in our 2021 M3LR. Depart Melb CBD at 100% SoC arrived Albury (33% then charge 35mins to 89%) then Yass (23% then charge 28mins to 80%) then arrived Sydney 23% SoC.
In hindsight would probably stop at Holbrook at a lower SoC and Exeter (if required) for faster charging speeds ⚡️ABRP recommends
That little bit of extra range with the long range must be nice. Though I think I prefer a few more stops to rest a bit and stretch the legs.
I find that my bladder has less range than the car these days. 🤣
Am keen to get an EV but when I read this I know I’m not ready yet. My Melbourne Sydney trip is one Gundagai stop so these extra stops are too much for me to accept at this stage of the EV revolution. 1000klm plus from a charge is imminent, will likely take a mini step into a Hybrid next and 5 years from now I expect battery technology to be much more advanced along with infrastructure. I think I speak for the masses with those barriers to entry.
@@jasonbrown3646 Yeah, that's a fair comment, but it depends on your lifestyle/work commitments. I use my EV 100% in the city and have yet to even use a super charger, so it's horses for courses, really.
@@jasonbrown3646 Driving an EV on long trips will always involve more stops. If you regularly drive 1000km with only one 5-minute stop then stay with diesel.
Thank you for a very informative video. I'd love to be convinced to buy a Tesla, but it put me off trading my 2018 BMW X3 30D SUV on a Tesla Model Y, because I would not want to worry about battery state of charge, finding out-of-the-way un-signposted Tesla chargers, whether they will charge at their rated capacity and the much longer time to charge than refuel. My BMW can easily drive MEL/SYD without refuelling, averaging 6.0L/100Km. i.e. $12.00/100Km @$2.00/L for diesel. Teslas use about 17KwH/100Km (worse on long trips due to less regeneration), costing at least $10.20/100Km @ $0.60/KwH when not at home. Is it worth the extra time and angst? My BMW has the equivalent of Tesla Autopilot self-driving and lane keeping. It also has fully autonomous self-parking. I am surprised Teslas lack ultrasonic parking aids and heads up display. My BMW has adaptive suspension for better ride and handling. I don't have to worry about getting locked out of Autopilot. BMW uses periodic capacitive touch of the steering wheel with no need to apply pressure like Tesla. My BMW's 0-100kph acceleration is superior to a RWD Tesla Model Y (5.8s vs 6.9s) and mid-range torque of 620Nm makes for safer overtaking on highways. The BMW also weighs about 100Kg less, making for longer tyre life. Then there is the higher insurance cost for a Tesla. Other than FBT-free salary packaging for some workers and reduction in CO2 emissions in cities, why buy an EV?
You do realise there are loads of other electric cars other than Tesla right? I do agree that the ride in the Model Y could be softer.
If an electric car isn't for you, then it isn't for you. I think though most people don't do long drives that often and the beauty of being able to "fill up" your electric car at home each day or night takes a matter of seconds as you plug it in and then go do other things. So for city life, an electric car is far quicker and more convenient to top up. We have the added bonus of having solar and so even in cloudy Melbourne we charge our car most weeks "for free" off our roof. Which is nice. Of course there is a decent size expense for this setup, but once you've made the investment it's pretty nice.
For longer drives it does take a bit of thought, but not very much. We literally got back home about an hour ago from driving all the way to the Gold Coast and back. Was an absolute breaze. Luckily we had free supercharger miles from our referall points and so filling up the car the whole 3788km cost us nothing, which is nice. 😊
If driving straight through from Melbourne to Sydney works better for you, then thats great for you, I prefer to have a few stops so that I can stretch the legs for 5 minutes and take a bathroom break. On every stop we've had the car has always been ready to continue the journey before we are.
@@notacarguy_au Your points are valid re city runabout use of an EV. Solar is either not possible or infeasible for strata apartment dwellers, which is approaching half our market and will becoming even more common in our major cities,. Especially in Sydney where there is no land to expand cottage construction. The market has spoken, with EV sales in the US in steep decline, dealers flooded with unsold EVs. Possibly influenced by Ev cold weather charging issues. Then there's Hertz finally realising most customers do not want to rent EVs, incurring unsustainable repair costs and heavy depreciation compared to ICE cars. Each to his own, but the more the rabid Labor/Green socialists try to force feed me an EV, the less likely I am to buy one. Hybrids are in my future, provided I am not forced to pay an EV road use tax for owning a hybrid.
You make a good point about solar not being feasible for apartment dwellers and that is a challenge, but certainly not an unsolvable one. Just as with a petrol car an electric car doesn’t need to be filled each day. So folks who live in apartments can perhaps take their electric car to be topped up once or twice per week. Once again the beauty of not having to be there whilst your car is charging means they could charge it whilst they are doing their grocery shopping or perhaps whilst they are at the gym? I am starting to see more and chargers pop up at locations where folks “linger”. So once again you’re not stoping to charge but rather you are charing whilst you are stopped.
In regards to EV sales slowing, I think you’ll find that was a single quarter and only in some markets. So it’s too small a data point to get excited or disappointed about. I think perhaps we should wait a full 12 months and then see where the market is?
Both the cold weather and Hertz issues I think come down to lack of training and education. A big part of why I created this UA-cam channel. The repair costs are an issue, but again, I think that’s more of a Tesla issue rather than an overall market issue for all EVs.
I don’t think the government is going to force you to buy an EV, I think the market will as in about 5-10 years, most new cars will be electric. I’m enjoying this conversation, but I don’t think I need to convince anyone. Most folks that I know who have switched to an electric car love the experience and would never go back. Of course there are always exceptions to every rule but that has been my experience. My wife is another good example, she was very sceptical and concerned about range and battery and all those things. Once we actually lived with an EV and experienced it, as soon as we can afford it, she will switch her petrol car to electric.
I think for many people affordability is the biggest issue. Electric cars are still too expensive and as you mentnmioed before seem to be pricey to insure, though insurance is going up on everything these days. At least the price of the cars is slowing coming down.
With hybrids, if that works for you, great. But in my view hybrids seem to be the worst of both worlds. You get all the cost and complexity of a combustion engine and then such a small battery and electric motor that it makes it hardly worthwhile. Having said that, I have never experienced a hybrid and so my opinion is not based on any actual experience. So I could be wrong.@@johnoneill1011
Why buy an EV? Simple, if you like blowing Dino farts into the atmosphere, continue on doing what you are doing. Almost all chargers are now sourcing renewable power, so there's virtually no pollution from an EV any more.
You guys charged so much that the navigation changed route. Skipped a stop. That's what was confusing. I think.
Yeah, we are always learning. I was just saying to Mandy yesterday that it would be nice to do a shorter road trip, but take our time more. I’d love to stop and check out the sights more often. But I find that when we are doing the city to city run, I just want to”get there” if that makes sense. ☺️
All the EV videos I have watched has just showed the anxiety of the owners, 90% of them are on batteries and power. The amount of anxiety these car owners have is really outstanding.
I think perhaps you've misunderstood. We may overplay it a bit for a bit of drama, but there is no anxiety. Long drives are really simple and straight forward. We go into a bit more detail in these videos because we think folks are interested.
Then there is also everyday use, when not driving 1000s of km. It's a non issue. We get home, we plug in, we go inside and when we come back out the next day, the car has a full "tank". Most days we don't even plug in. These days we maybe charge it once or twice a week.
I think folks who don't have experience with electric cars have a lot of anxiety about battery and range and all that. At least from out experience, once we actually had one and started using it. Those anxieties melted away.
@@notacarguy_au Thanks for reply, I have been looking and making up my mind for quite some time now and have been juggling between Tesla and iX3, but I guess Tesla has lot of tech in it.
Your videos encourage to get a ModY, should we get a ModY RW or AWD? We are also looking forward to our Melb to Syd journey once we get one of the EV's.
Whether to go with RWD or AWD I think comes down to your needs and wants. We got the RWD because that’s what we could “only just” afford. 🤣
My brother in law just got the BMW and he’s very happy with it. I think most folks could be happy with either. 😀
Hi Mandy!
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Hi from my too. ☺️
@@notacarguy_au You two have way too much fun :)
Seems that's the only route there is in AU with an EV
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We’ve done the drive to Adelaide too - there’s a video on that one. And we’re currently on a road trip back from the Gold Coast so there are other routes for sure. We just haven’t had reason to travel elsewhere!
Oh there are plenty more routes. We’ve done Adelaide and we are right now on our way back from the Gold Coast. I think maybe some time in the next year we will look at doing the coastal route to Sydney. It takes longer, but should be prettier. ☺️
I've done Melb-Cairns via the outback (only one SuperCharger at Dubbo). The total trip was 7500km. Vehicle: Tesla Model Y short range (60kWh battery) RWD.