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its funny ive always wanted a celica, but i ended up with a 2014 hyundai genisis coup 80k miles. im hoping to get it to the 300k mark on miles. then maybe find a celica at some point.
@Scotty Kilmer. I had an 03 Matrix XRS with this 2zz-ge motor. It had 267,000 on its original engine. I beat the crap out of with with its high end power at 6700 - 8000 rpm. ALL THE TIME!🤪 There is a kit out there that fixes the issue of the oil pump sucking dry. The last owner had this done and I never had problems my whole ownership! Just did oil changes for 4 years and put 100,000km on it! I'd still have it if I didn't need a bigger vehicle!
It's funny the Yamaha 2ZZ-GE engines in the Celica were so problematic because the V10 they made for the LFA is apparently one of the best sports car engines ever made.
Similar to the 2ZZ engine, the LFA V10 engine has a Yamaha's high-speed valve head, revs up to 9500 RPM. Both engines scream like a fighter jet when they rev up.
Hey Scotty, I just got my hands on a 2003 celica gt. With 140k miles. There is an issue where the rpm. Odo, and the mph gauge quit working at times, but most of the time they work. All other gauges work. Any suggestions?
How many timing belts in that 360K miles? My 2010 Mazda 6 with the regular I-4, timing chain currently has 343K miles and still runs beautiful, that’s with some Scotty Kilmer advice.
The 7th gen Celica has a timing chain. I recently bought a 2004 Celica GT and not quite sure when or if the chain has ever been replaced. It has 220k miles. Seems fine so far!
I have this exactly model and also i've got few friends with the same engine. And i can tell you this 1ZZ was starting burning oil for most of us after 150-200.000KM ( sorry, i'm from europe so KM :)) ) and in order to repair that you have to do a lot of things, we call this segmentation of the engine (idk if is correct or not). But anyway, i have this car, and i can tell, is a nice one 😅
You are friggin mad scotty,... that 1zz uses about as much oil as it does gasoline after about 100k miles or so. Then you need do replace the oil scrape rings or have a perpetual oil change. Now that engine you wouldnt buy,... the 2zz has none of those issues. Maybe a lift bolt replacement every once i a while.
My first ever car was a 2003 Toyota Celica GTS, and man did I love that car. My parents got it for me at 16 with 120,000 miles on it, and I drove it all the way until 190,000 miles. Just regular service, oil changes, brake pads replaced, and she drove like a champ every single day. I ended up selling it for $3,000 to use as a down payment for a brand new car, but looking back, I wish I kept it. That car gave me a lot of smiles and memories that I'll never forget.
i'd be buying my OWN for my first car, but my parents are very against it for whatever reason, I lay out all the facts and they just don't read them or something..
Same here..163.000 miles.. sometimes this guy is chatting sh***...that 1ZZ has the burning of the oil..and also not getting money back on it.The 2ZZ is used on the Lotus too.. that's how bad they are 😂...Anyway..he has hate for 2ZZ,but who cares?
@@unbelievableflyingdrunkenp755 While thats true, its still a far inferior engine to the k20's honda were putting out at the time. Plus, it's a 4-banger you want to be able to rev them out without it shitting itself
@@ket_wav1013 yeah, the hondas are better but the 2zz is definitely not as bad as Scotty makes them to be. This is like what, his 3rd video about 2zz engines?
I've seen many give problems due to having what Toyota calls a "metal matrix" cylinder liner. It's not a press in insert but a spray on coating similar to the old Vega and just doesn't last like a cast iron liner.
OR.....if u Turbo or SC the motor. I'm hoping my 18 Civic SI lasts at least 200,000 miles with the small 1.5 Turbo. With almost 40,000 miles so far NO oil dilution problems.
The 2zz yamaha engine wasn't cr@p! I'm a Toyota tech and I know Scotty loves them as well (most)! The 2zz wasn't the flaw! If you drove the car and liked to push it. This engine can pass with flying colors. If you think you can take the 2zz engine and run track days with... You're crazy!
the 2zzge is one of the most reliable 4cyl engines with many examples exceeding 250k miles without repairs or problems and it is impressive for an engine that lives above 8,000 rpm! the only one who wants a proper and good oil with quick changes. also in another video it says how good the matrix xrs engine has, which has exactly the same engine!! scotty has me confused!
I just sold my 2001 GT-S and it had 396,000 miles on it...and it still runs! It did consume oil, but never had any major engine problems. It was the most fun to drive car I have ever owned.
Okay but the same engine (2ZZGE) in the corolla, you made a video saying how its a great engine. So why is it a great engine in a corolla but a bad one in a celica? When there is literally 0 difference what car it is in
I have a 2001 Celica with the 2ZZGE engine in the UK, and it has 192 hp as standard. I have fixed all the problems - baffled oil pan, and new intake rocker shaft for the lift bolts. It has been hard work and it needs a new clutch, but I absolutely love the thing. I learnt how to be a DIY mechanic over the past couple of years mainly from yourself! I think you should buy a 2zzge celica and fix it up yourself, you might change your mind.
That’s actually dope. I, too, am a DYI’er after doing a few things and seeing how easy it can be with UA-cam videos and modern tech. Hoping my 98’ stock integra makes it to 300K miles and then some. Good for you, keep it up!
Scion tC killed the Celica. When the tC came out, Celicas sold for $18,000 with steel wheels, crank windows, manual locks, drum rear brakes and am/fm cd stereo. Scion tCs sold for $16,000 with a bigger Camry engine, 17" alloys, abs, traction control, 4 wheel disk brakes, power windows, power sunroof, am/fm cd/mp3 radio. tC was a far better buy. I saw Celicas rotting on dealer lots while the tC were as good as sold as they roll off the car carrier. There was even a waiting list of about 4 months durin its first year.
@@captinbeyond Quality of materials Toyota went a little cheaper with the tC than the Celica. How else were they supposed to undercut it considering the tC's drivetrain (Camry) is far better than the Corolla/Celica. tC engines and transmissions were solid. That's undisputable. The only problems tCs had were thin paint and that one model year when the 2.4L engine was burning oil However it was across the Toyota line, not exclusive to the tC. Toyota used garbage piston rings. The Celica's problem was rod knock, oil starvation and the ever famous bent valves on the Yamaha motors. Materials used, the Celica was better. Engine and transmission, the tC was ahead by 100 miles.
@@BullittKid08 tC were driven and abused hard by owners. Most tC owners were 22-28 year olds, Toyota's target with the Scion brand. Unlike the Celica was +40 year old women. Typical of the Toyota brand. The tC 2.4 was a monster in the mod world. Turbo kits were abundant. It's easy to get 280hp at the wheels while the Celica GTS would explode like a grenade trying to reach just 180hp. The 1zz Celica was just a slow poser car.
I own a GT celica and I never seen another celica with crank windows or manual locks, but my models does have rear drums. I did however see them with some anti theft control featured from some dealerships
2zz motors are amazing.. ask any vibe or matrix xrs owner.. the fix for the air issue in oil is simply to swap to a 1zz pan. Fixed. We have a large group of people with 2zz with 300 400k.. I own 2 2 zz motors at 200k and they purr.. just did my lift bolts gaskets and such amazing car.. amazing motor. Lotus didn't agree with you when they put the 2zz in the esprit. Please stop unfairly trashing the 2zz. It makes you look dumb.
Should I get rid of my 05 corolla xrs with the 2ZZ? Original owner, 160k, never had to do any work on it except change the battery once, head lights and oil change. Even still have orinal breaks and pads, though i need new pads now. Hard to get rid of now since it's not worth much anymore.
My 02 Celica GT with the 1ZZ-FE engine has about 268,000 miles on the engine and it still runs great. It burns some oil but it's still a great car! I'm hoping to get at least over 500,00 miles out of my little Celica and I only paid 4 grand for it. I love my Celica! It's a great little dependable fun to drive car!
As an owner of the "Yamaha" 3S-GTE engine in my 1992 Toyota MR2 Turbo. Its been pretty good to me. I don't know about the 2zz but Yamaha isn't all bad.
The oil starvation issues it’s solved by changing the oil pan with an aftermarket one that has baffles inside. That gets rid of the problem and the engine is pretty good but most people didn’t do that and blew them, by now most of those engines ether have the problem fix or they’re blown
2zz engines are strong as well. They break when people over rev and race them. I have seen plenty go 200k miles. The 2zz engine is also designed by toyota, apart from the head which is designed by yamaha. If you are looking for a toyota celica/t-sport go for the 2zz and dont worry about it.
@@abel3619 My 2ZZ blew up at 206k but I bought the whole car (a 2000 GTS manual, non Action Package in Carbon Blue) for only $1500!!! It's getting a new motor but it did have a 2 cylinder misfire which caused it's death so yeah. Love my Celica, and especially the 2ZZ.
@@zznick660 mine misfired on every cylinder but I didn’t drive it. I changed all the plugs and coils and then a vacuum leak which was present enough to cause the misfires to come back. Now I just have a cat code and drive it everyday to work
A couple of videos back you were saying how good the XRS Corolla was. The XRS also has the 2ZZ-GE engine. Only the cylinder head was designed by Yamaha.
Hey Scotty, I got an 03 Pontiac Vibe/Matrix with a 2-ZZ and 6 speed, Original engine 299385 not so easy miles, no ticks, smoke or anything. Could full me but seems like a solid motor to me
@Celi.1360 yeah you're wrong there... both obviously can blow up, but I've had 3 2zz loaded cars and none of them have blown their engine... yet. It could blow it up tomorrow, I guess. I really hope it doesnt happen 😂
I remember seeing a 09 camry at an auction with 439k miles. That thing was quieter than a baby's breath and rode super smooth. They took great care of that car
That's awesome maybe my mums car will still be super smooth when I'm 16 in five years cause she's giving me her car then and it's mint with no rust it is very very reliable it's an amazing oldsmobile Alero
A taxi driver in Mexico bought an used first-gen Camry auto, may be 1980, drove it everyday on rough streets. He said his odometer already went over once, so it had about 1.5 million Km with original engine and transmission, no major repairs, only oil, fluid, tires, shocks changes. Mexico is very hot, but cloth seats and plastic interior panels were all original and intact.
There is an upgrade kit out there that has better oil pump gears, oil pump and bigger oil pan that brings oil capacity up to 6 quarts from the stock 4.5 quarts. I had an 03 Matrix XRS with the 2zz-ge and the entire time I owned the car, all I did was oil changes. And oh boy did I ever beat the crap out of that car, hitting lift @6700 rpm nearly every time I drove it. It could take & sustain 8700 rpm like a champ! Best, most fun car I ever owned!
Scotty, by watching your channel I have learned so much. I have a 2012 Hyundai Veloster with 130k miles. By seeing the many videos over the years it burns no oil, is efficient still, and by adding refrigerate, it still blows cold air. The only problem is with rust since I live in Central New York. They use brine to salt the roads. It is reeking havoc with electronics and causes rust, but I have mitigated the effects also by listening to your advice. You're the best.
Here in the UK the 1zz is awful especially before 2003 were there weren't enough oil galleries in the engine. They blew all the time. They were eventually fixed later on and those from 2004 onward are very reliable. As for the 2zz Scotty couldn't be more wrong. They last really well here as long as you change the oil every 3000 miles. If you don't then a better oil pump will be needed and if you race them a baffled sump off of an mr2 is essential. 2zz is the better engine all day long. That 2001 obviously had an engine replacement to the better design to last
Scotty is full of S!@T with regard to his comments about the 2ZZE. My 2003 Matrix XRS has over 330,000km on it, has been absolutely trouble free and runs like new. That's after using it year round in harsh Canadian winters.
I oen a Celica t sport 2zzge UK model for more than 2 years, banging the rev limiter every day when I drive it, racing it almost every weekend with my friends, if you change the oil regularly the engine can't be killed. The only problem with them is the weak gearbox, that can broke easily, I changed my gearbox after my differential broke when I had a stage 2 clutch for around 6 months and racing it regularly.
Ia have a celica 2zzge for more than 2 years, banging de rev limiter every day and no problems with the engine, the only issue is the weak gearbox of the 2zz.
I've never been a fan of Toyota or Asian cars in general but man, we can only dream of getting such quality & reliability in a car built here. So sad the American manufacturing became synonymous with problems when originally it was the standard for the whole world
Mister kilmer i have a toyota runx with that 2zz engine and im a mechanic. I bet u that engine is not gonna give me the trouble because i dont always over rev it to the power range and its gonna last 500000 miles that way.if you dont beat the heck out of it, IT WILL LAST.
I had an 04 GT-S back in the day and drove it hard almost everyday. Never had an issue with the engine and sold it with 140k miles. Not an insane number on the clock, but still fairly reliable and an Uber fun car to drive with that motor. On the other hand, my father drove a Celica GT with an auto trans and it felt dangerously slow. Almost had a tough time merging onto the freeway. I'd take a GTS over that slow 4 banger in the GT any day of the week.
Not saying he's wrong but the gts (6spd) isn't as bad as he makes it out to be, as long as the oil pump and lift bolts are taken care of its a very reliable and powerful 4 cylinder I have over 300,000 kms and still get 550km to a tank
WTF are you talking about?! The 1zz had oiling issues in the beginning and there are more 200-300k mile 2zz engines than I can count. I myself have 2 of them and they've proven to be near bulletproof. I could go on, but why bother. If your 2zz is blowing up, then you're a bad driver and caretaker.
I owned one of these, a 2002 model with the 140bhp engine and manual gearbox, face-lift version. The most fun car to drive I've ever driven and the only one I ever bought new. It could potter about quietly like a sensible family car no problem yet when you felt like it, it would make you feel like a racing driver - the lightness of the car, the steering and the gear change just felt so good. What wasn't so good was being over taken by a turbo diesel hatchback on the motorway even though my right foot was almost through the floor! So, yeah you could drive it fast without losing your license!
Scotty. 2zzge are fine. Just need to swap the oil pan from à 1zz and you will have no issues at all. Mine as 200 000 miles and it's running great and it's use for track day's ;) 😉
I also have a 2001 Toyota Celica with the 1ZZ-FE engine with manual transmission. I've had it for 4 years and am the second owner. never had any problems with it. drive really good, it's not fast but enough for daily driving. and with (243000 km) 150,993 Miles many more can be added with good maintenance!
I owned a Pontiac Vibe with the 2ZZ-GE engine. I got it with 65,000 miles in 2012 and lost it to Pennsylvania rust in 2017 when it had 138,000 miles. The engine has a bad rap, and maybe it deserves it, but I got lucky with not having any problems with it. And it was a blast to drive. The engine makes a beautiful sound at and above 6,000 rpm. It was a daily driver for my now-ex-wife and she loved it and running it at high revs even more than I did...I had to take perfect care of the thing to keep odds of failure as low as possible. Thankfully, she liked to go fast in a straight line. Obviously, you have to thing long and hard before buying a car with one of these engines with high mileage (essentially all of them today) but they are undeniably fun.
Don't know about the Celica with Yamaha but the Taurus SHO the Yamaha designed engines breathed life into a 4 door sedan coupled to a 5 speed manual...
Man my celica has the 2zz its so fun yea VVTLI activate at 6000 rpm but once you switch the oem oil pump to the mwr billet oil pump and switch the oem 2zz oil pan to the 1zz oil pan you’ll be good the problem with the 2zz oem oil pan is that they don’t have a baffel on them idk why they didn’t put one on a high revving engine but the 1zz oil pan bolts right on or if you want to do the pricer way put the Moroso oil pan
Scotty I disagree with you about the 2zz engines. They only really break when they are over revved and raced. Also Yamaha designed the head, and toyota designed the rest. Similar to the JZ (2jz,1jz) series engines
Those Yamaha 3.0 DOHC V-6 engines in the first generation Ford Taurus SHO also had a reputation for blowing up. They also burned oil and blew head gaskets at will. My favorite Celica was the RWD one in the early to mid 80s. They weren't powerful or fast but they were about bulletproof.
I liked the video. But im from Germany and i have a 250k kilometers 2z engine in my 2005 t23 toyota celica and dont have any Problems(own the car 10 years). Am i lucky or are eu cars diffrent? Would be happy to get an answer. Have a nice day!
What about Scion Xc model? Those were made by toyota, 2.4L 4cylinders. Nice little reliable car, if driven properly. Part of the reason why the higher spec engines don't last is not because they're poorly made, but the folks who bought them for that higher performance and usually beat the sh!t out of them, driving and revving harder. Just like the same reason you can find many 6 cylinder model mustangs holding up better than the 8 cylinder models.
Scotty! I have the same 1zz-fe in my 06 Matrix (stick shift) and I hear some valve flutter between 2200-2700rpm under no load. It happens often on the highway in 5th on cruise control. It's not that annoying, easily drowned out with music, anything I should worry about??
@@NDV3355 Don't worry. 2zz engines are strong. Just don't over rev them or corner fast and you will be fine. These go easily go 200k miles with good maintenance. Scotty is just trying to scare people for views.
He doesn't know what hes talking about. Toyota dropped the Celica name When they launched the Scion yeah cyan brand. The scientist Scion TC stood for Toyota Celica And was basically the redesigned version. Almost all 2 + 2 Type 2 door Type coops were is were dropped in the early 2000s Due to decreasing sales. Even some of the most popular is biller "sporty" coops poops were killed like the mitsubishi eclipse, Is Honda prelude, Mazda MX6, Is Ford ZX2, Is Mercury cougar, Nissan 240SX, And even the accurate integra/RSX. Not too long after those were axed More mainstream cars like like the Honda Accord coupe and Camry solara saw their days numbered.
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its funny ive always wanted a celica, but i ended up with a 2014 hyundai genisis coup 80k miles. im hoping to get it to the 300k mark on miles. then maybe find a celica at some point.
@Scotty Kilmer. I had an 03 Matrix XRS with this 2zz-ge motor. It had 267,000 on its original engine. I beat the crap out of with with its high end power at 6700 - 8000 rpm. ALL THE TIME!🤪 There is a kit out there that fixes the issue of the oil pump sucking dry. The last owner had this done and I never had problems my whole ownership! Just did oil changes for 4 years and put 100,000km on it! I'd still have it if I didn't need a bigger vehicle!
The price of gas changes how much I charge so nothing will change for me at all.
Scotty is the type of guy to rev up his engine
And say it runs like a clock
type of guys to be bias
...Only if he knew nothing what happened to it.
He really is
He makes my henus rev up
A 2003 Pontiac vibe and an 01 Chevy prism with the legendary Toyota 1.8 ZZ engine The motors are tough as nails they last forever.
Those 2zz engine wasn't bad. Most people blow them up from overrev .If your constantly going past 7k,you will lose oil..Honda does the samething
It's funny the Yamaha 2ZZ-GE engines in the Celica were so problematic because the V10 they made for the LFA is apparently one of the best sports car engines ever made.
Similar to the 2ZZ engine, the LFA V10 engine has a Yamaha's high-speed valve head, revs up to 9500 RPM. Both engines scream like a fighter jet when they rev up.
Scotty LOVES Celicas! He was awfully giddy on this video. 😲
with all the fload and humidity in my country still is so rare to see a 2000s cars with that kind of that rust
I’m in class and Scotty is my teacher I will make sure to attend next time sorry for being late 😇
I had 2000 Celica with standard transmission, 4th gear would not stay in it would pop out all the time.
Same 1zz-fe as your wives 2006 Toyota Matrix, absolutely bulletproof and will go a million miles or more with scheduled maintenance.
Hey Scotty,
I just got my hands on a 2003 celica gt. With 140k miles. There is an issue where the rpm. Odo, and the mph gauge quit working at times, but most of the time they work. All other gauges work. Any suggestions?
Scotty can you recommend a couple of mechanics in Austin to check used cars please?!?!
It appears we've found the Scotty mobile! 360,000 miles @ 98.6% efficiency! For guys our age that's a Hot Rod!
Thank u Scotty
I have the exact same car and it runs perfectly!!! I'm only at 184,000.. :)
nice one scotty
Hey Scotty 👋🏼
hello!
Good stuff...
How many timing belts in that 360K miles?
My 2010 Mazda 6 with the regular I-4, timing chain currently has 343K miles and still runs beautiful, that’s with some Scotty Kilmer advice.
The 7th gen Celica has a timing chain. I recently bought a 2004 Celica GT and not quite sure when or if the chain has ever been replaced. It has 220k miles. Seems fine so far!
Scotty beats on a soldier’s old Celica and turns on his money light🤷♂️
I have this exactly model and also i've got few friends with the same engine. And i can tell you this 1ZZ was starting burning oil for most of us after 150-200.000KM ( sorry, i'm from europe so KM :)) ) and in order to repair that you have to do a lot of things, we call this segmentation of the engine (idk if is correct or not). But anyway, i have this car, and i can tell, is a nice one 😅
@Zippo my 2006 Matrix with the 1ZZ-FE has 240000 km, zero oil burning
Bad oil vanish up rings and oil return holes on pistons.
2000 gt here, 0 problems.😄
You are friggin mad scotty,... that 1zz uses about as much oil as it does gasoline after about 100k miles or so. Then you need do replace the oil scrape rings or have a perpetual oil change. Now that engine you wouldnt buy,... the 2zz has none of those issues. Maybe a lift bolt replacement every once i a while.
Celica gts4 anti lag i be dreamimg
it didnt start pretty good
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My first ever car was a 2003 Toyota Celica GTS, and man did I love that car. My parents got it for me at 16 with 120,000 miles on it, and I drove it all the way until 190,000 miles. Just regular service, oil changes, brake pads replaced, and she drove like a champ every single day. I ended up selling it for $3,000 to use as a down payment for a brand new car, but looking back, I wish I kept it. That car gave me a lot of smiles and memories that I'll never forget.
I’m trying to convince my mom to get me a 2004 celica lol
i'd be buying my OWN for my first car, but my parents are very against it for whatever reason, I lay out all the facts and they just don't read them or something..
@@roymcfreedom8240 beg her to get you an 80s car for months on end so when you decide to get an 04 celica it wont seem as bad
the 2ZZ-GE is perfectly reliable
I had one with high over 250Ks and it still worked perfect
Same here..163.000 miles.. sometimes this guy is chatting sh***...that 1ZZ has the burning of the oil..and also not getting money back on it.The 2ZZ is used on the Lotus too.. that's how bad they are 😂...Anyway..he has hate for 2ZZ,but who cares?
I imagine the Yamaha engines get worn out quickly because of the people who race them.
@@allentoyokawa9068 Nah the oil pumps are shithouse and so is the 6spd mated to them
@@ket_wav1013 The engines are strong as long as you don't over rev them.
@@unbelievableflyingdrunkenp755 While thats true, its still a far inferior engine to the k20's honda were putting out at the time. Plus, it's a 4-banger you want to be able to rev them out without it shitting itself
@@ket_wav1013 yeah, the hondas are better but the 2zz is definitely not as bad as Scotty makes them to be. This is like what, his 3rd video about 2zz engines?
I've seen many give problems due to having what Toyota calls a "metal matrix" cylinder liner. It's not a press in insert but a spray on coating similar to the old Vega and just doesn't last like a cast iron liner.
So basically when you cram a lot of HP into a small engine, it decreases the longevity and reliability of the engine.
Unless it is well engineered where it will still last
Well if the crate motor Helliphant and the 632 Chevy are new examples of very large displacements with 1000+ H.P.
OR.....if u Turbo or SC the motor.
I'm hoping my 18 Civic SI lasts at least 200,000 miles with the small 1.5 Turbo. With almost 40,000 miles so far NO oil dilution problems.
S2K is most hp per liter in a NA production car revs to the moon and still dead reliable
yes!
The 2zz yamaha engine wasn't cr@p! I'm a Toyota tech and I know Scotty loves them as well (most)! The 2zz wasn't the flaw! If you drove the car and liked to push it. This engine can pass with flying colors. If you think you can take the 2zz engine and run track days with... You're crazy!
My 2zz has 230k
the 2zzge is one of the most reliable 4cyl engines with many examples exceeding 250k miles without repairs or problems and it is impressive for an engine that lives above 8,000 rpm! the only one who wants a proper and good oil with quick changes. also in another video it says how good the matrix xrs engine has, which has exactly the same engine!! scotty has me confused!
Nah people race with the 1zz and 2zz. Avoid the 1zz cause of its burns oil like crazy.
My 2zz is currently at 200k no issues.
Avoid 2zz because its trash like scotty said, 1zz is one of the best engines from toyota.
I just sold my 2001 GT-S and it had 396,000 miles on it...and it still runs! It did consume oil, but never had any major engine problems. It was the most fun to drive car I have ever owned.
Wow! Mine has 230k rn
I have rookie numbers 139k on 2005 GT
@@thelifeofplay7435 I’m at 145k in my 02 gt
I just got a GTS with 170k on it. Wish me luck yall
I trust 99% of what Scotty says, but I’ve owned 2 Matrix XRS with the 2zz engine abs they were amazing.
Why 2? Did one break down....
One must of broke down
Two for one sale? 😉
Next video: i was wrong with this engine.
I owned Two at separate times, not two at the same time..Jesus I’m sad for this generation. Common sense isn’t so common anymore
Okay but the same engine (2ZZGE) in the corolla, you made a video saying how its a great engine. So why is it a great engine in a corolla but a bad one in a celica? When there is literally 0 difference what car it is in
"911, whats your emergency?"
Caller: "I got a Yamaha engine in my Toyota."
Dispatcher: " Yamaha ha ha ha ha ha.!"
And a Jacko Transaction
R&T mag has a new article on jacked pink slips. Classic buyer beware.
its a Piano engine not a car engine.
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I have a 2001 Celica with the 2ZZGE engine in the UK, and it has 192 hp as standard. I have fixed all the problems - baffled oil pan, and new intake rocker shaft for the lift bolts. It has been hard work and it needs a new clutch, but I absolutely love the thing. I learnt how to be a DIY mechanic over the past couple of years mainly from yourself! I think you should buy a 2zzge celica and fix it up yourself, you might change your mind.
That’s actually dope. I, too, am a DYI’er after doing a few things and seeing how easy it can be with UA-cam videos and modern tech. Hoping my 98’ stock integra makes it to 300K miles and then some. Good for you, keep it up!
I don't think Scotty needs anymore cars to fix up himself
Scion tC killed the Celica.
When the tC came out, Celicas sold for $18,000 with steel wheels, crank windows, manual locks, drum rear brakes and am/fm cd stereo.
Scion tCs sold for $16,000 with a bigger Camry engine, 17" alloys, abs, traction control, 4 wheel disk brakes, power windows, power sunroof, am/fm cd/mp3 radio.
tC was a far better buy.
I saw Celicas rotting on dealer lots while the tC were as good as sold as they roll off the car carrier. There was even a waiting list of about 4 months durin its first year.
@@captinbeyond definitely not, scions are kinda throwaway cars. I barely see them now that they are aging. They used to bw everywhere
@@captinbeyond Quality of materials Toyota went a little cheaper with the tC than the Celica. How else were they supposed to undercut it considering the tC's drivetrain (Camry) is far better than the Corolla/Celica.
tC engines and transmissions were solid. That's undisputable. The only problems tCs had were thin paint and that one model year when the 2.4L engine was burning oil However it was across the Toyota line, not exclusive to the tC. Toyota used garbage piston rings.
The Celica's problem was rod knock, oil starvation and the ever famous bent valves on the Yamaha motors.
Materials used, the Celica was better.
Engine and transmission, the tC was ahead by 100 miles.
@@BullittKid08 tC were driven and abused hard by owners. Most tC owners were 22-28 year olds, Toyota's target with the Scion brand. Unlike the Celica was +40 year old women. Typical of the Toyota brand.
The tC 2.4 was a monster in the mod world. Turbo kits were abundant. It's easy to get 280hp at the wheels while the Celica GTS would explode like a grenade trying to reach just 180hp.
The 1zz Celica was just a slow poser car.
I own a GT celica and I never seen another celica with crank windows or manual locks, but my models does have rear drums. I did however see them with some anti theft control featured from some dealerships
@@BullittKid08 I havnt seen a scion anywhere in years
2zz motors are amazing.. ask any vibe or matrix xrs owner.. the fix for the air issue in oil is simply to swap to a 1zz pan. Fixed. We have a large group of people with 2zz with 300 400k.. I own 2 2 zz motors at 200k and they purr.. just did my lift bolts gaskets and such amazing car.. amazing motor. Lotus didn't agree with you when they put the 2zz in the esprit. Please stop unfairly trashing the 2zz. It makes you look dumb.
Ah yes lotus… the symbol for reliability 😂
Should I get rid of my 05 corolla xrs with the 2ZZ? Original owner, 160k, never had to do any work on it except change the battery once, head lights and oil change. Even still have orinal breaks and pads, though i need new pads now. Hard to get rid of now since it's not worth much anymore.
2zz is solid engine mate keep the car! Scotty says how good is xrs engine which is exactly the same engine! Scotty is confused!
Or, keep on with the 7th Gen 2zzge Celica hate, so we can keep buying them dirt cheap - maybe they will go up in price when storm has passed?
My 02 Celica GT with the 1ZZ-FE engine has about 268,000 miles on the engine and it still runs great. It burns some oil but it's still a great car!
I'm hoping to get at least over 500,00 miles out of my little Celica and I only paid 4 grand for it.
I love my Celica! It's a great little dependable fun to drive car!
As an owner of the "Yamaha" 3S-GTE engine in my 1992 Toyota MR2 Turbo. Its been pretty good to me. I don't know about the 2zz but Yamaha isn't all bad.
Exactly. In the motorsport world Yamaha is top notch build quality. It's not like them to miff an engine.
The oil starvation issues it’s solved by changing the oil pan with an aftermarket one that has baffles inside. That gets rid of the problem and the engine is pretty good but most people didn’t do that and blew them, by now most of those engines ether have the problem fix or they’re blown
@@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga so was the engine oil foaming? Was that what purpose the baffles we're supposed to solve?
@@GreyFox250 when the cars where driven hard the oil would move away from the oil pick up causing the issue. The aftermarket pan solve this problem.
Honda is no slouch either...especially motorbikes and ATVs
Have an 01 2zz with 230k and original oil pan for now, love it
2zz engines are strong as well. They break when people over rev and race them. I have seen plenty go 200k miles. The 2zz engine is also designed by toyota, apart from the head which is designed by yamaha. If you are looking for a toyota celica/t-sport go for the 2zz and dont worry about it.
My 2zz has 230,000 original oil pan, no broken lift bolts, changed em recently
@@abel3619 My 2ZZ blew up at 206k but I bought the whole car (a 2000 GTS manual, non Action Package in Carbon Blue) for only $1500!!! It's getting a new motor but it did have a 2 cylinder misfire which caused it's death so yeah. Love my Celica, and especially the 2ZZ.
@@zznick660 mine misfired on every cylinder but I didn’t drive it. I changed all the plugs and coils and then a vacuum leak which was present enough to cause the misfires to come back. Now I just have a cat code and drive it everyday to work
@@abel3619 I had the following codes before mine started knocking: P0446, P0300, P0302, and a P0304. Can't wait to get a new engine for it.
@@zznick660 I’ve had all of those at one point. I’ve already put 2000 miles on it since I bought it
2zz felt crazy when it switched, we put the car on a dyno and the power was 30 hp higher and jumped vertically on the graph
A couple of videos back you were saying how good the XRS Corolla was. The XRS also has the 2ZZ-GE engine. Only the cylinder head was designed by Yamaha.
Exactly that mate! scotty has me confused!
After watching a few of Scotty's videos, I think I'll get a bicycle
Those electric bikes he reviewed seemed pretty nifty.
Hey Scotty, I got an 03 Pontiac Vibe/Matrix with a 2-ZZ and 6 speed, Original engine 299385 not so easy miles, no ticks, smoke or anything. Could full me but seems like a solid motor to me
The 1.8 140hp engine is terrible major issues with oil consumption.
The 1.8 190hp vvt li engine with the Yamaha head is awesome.
Real life says that 2zz is trash with x problems, while 1zz is bulletproof.
@Celi.1360 yeah you're wrong there... both obviously can blow up, but I've had 3 2zz loaded cars and none of them have blown their engine... yet. It could blow it up tomorrow, I guess. I really hope it doesnt happen 😂
im from germany.. driving a 2zz... never had problems.. just dont drive like a bezerk and check oil often..
I remember seeing a 09 camry at an auction with 439k miles. That thing was quieter than a baby's breath and rode super smooth. They took great care of that car
That's awesome maybe my mums car will still be super smooth when I'm 16 in five years cause she's giving me her car then and it's mint with no rust it is very very reliable it's an amazing oldsmobile Alero
It's a Toyota!
It takes care of itself!
A taxi driver in Mexico bought an used first-gen Camry auto, may be 1980, drove it everyday on rough streets. He said his odometer already went over once, so it had about 1.5 million Km with original engine and transmission, no major repairs, only oil, fluid, tires, shocks changes. Mexico is very hot, but cloth seats and plastic interior panels were all original and intact.
There is an upgrade kit out there that has better oil pump gears, oil pump and bigger oil pan that brings oil capacity up to 6 quarts from the stock 4.5 quarts. I had an 03 Matrix XRS with the 2zz-ge and the entire time I owned the car, all I did was oil changes. And oh boy did I ever beat the crap out of that car, hitting lift @6700 rpm nearly every time I drove it. It could take & sustain 8700 rpm like a champ! Best, most fun car I ever owned!
Scotty, by watching your channel I have learned so much. I have a 2012 Hyundai Veloster with 130k miles. By seeing the many videos over the years it burns no oil, is efficient still, and by adding refrigerate, it still blows cold air. The only problem is with rust since I live in Central New York. They use brine to salt the roads. It is reeking havoc with electronics and causes rust, but I have mitigated the effects also by listening to your advice. You're the best.
Here in the UK the 1zz is awful especially before 2003 were there weren't enough oil galleries in the engine.
They blew all the time.
They were eventually fixed later on and those from 2004 onward are very reliable.
As for the 2zz Scotty couldn't be more wrong.
They last really well here as long as you change the oil every 3000 miles.
If you don't then a better oil pump will be needed and if you race them a baffled sump off of an mr2 is essential.
2zz is the better engine all day long.
That 2001 obviously had an engine replacement to the better design to last
Yup, 1ZZ is a oil burner.
Scotty is full of S!@T with regard to his comments about the 2ZZE. My 2003 Matrix XRS has over 330,000km on it, has been absolutely trouble free and runs like new. That's after using it year round in harsh Canadian winters.
I oen a Celica t sport 2zzge UK model for more than 2 years, banging the rev limiter every day when I drive it, racing it almost every weekend with my friends, if you change the oil regularly the engine can't be killed. The only problem with them is the weak gearbox, that can broke easily, I changed my gearbox after my differential broke when I had a stage 2 clutch for around 6 months and racing it regularly.
Just get a 1zz oil pan for the 2zz and they're super fun revving to 8k
Don’t do it all the time though
Ia have a celica 2zzge for more than 2 years, banging de rev limiter every day and no problems with the engine, the only issue is the weak gearbox of the 2zz.
I've never been a fan of Toyota or Asian cars in general but man, we can only dream of getting such quality & reliability in a car built here. So sad the American manufacturing became synonymous with problems when originally it was the standard for the whole world
I saw a 2011 Equinox tonight with exhaust noise and just generally falling apart. Meanwhile 2011 Toyota's are still like brand new.
"...and the hub caps are gone" Scotty, you should have follow that up with the same thing you said about the rust. "Well that's Chicago for ya"
Michigan tops Chicago for rust. We have more cheap salt.
Happy Halloween 🍂🦇🕸👻🎃
Mister kilmer i have a toyota runx with that 2zz engine and im a mechanic. I bet u that engine is not gonna give me the trouble because i dont always over rev it to the power range and its gonna last 500000 miles that way.if you dont beat the heck out of it, IT WILL LAST.
Hey Scotty your passenger back tire is a little low on your Celica LOL
2zz-ge entered the room
I love this engine. Same as in my 06 Corolla. Over 210,000 miles and still going strong.
I had an 04 GT-S back in the day and drove it hard almost everyday. Never had an issue with the engine and sold it with 140k miles. Not an insane number on the clock, but still fairly reliable and an Uber fun car to drive with that motor. On the other hand, my father drove a Celica GT with an auto trans and it felt dangerously slow. Almost had a tough time merging onto the freeway. I'd take a GTS over that slow 4 banger in the GT any day of the week.
GT 1ZZ engine is weak, drives like a sedan.
Not saying he's wrong but the gts (6spd) isn't as bad as he makes it out to be, as long as the oil pump and lift bolts are taken care of its a very reliable and powerful 4 cylinder I have over 300,000 kms and still get 550km to a tank
Scotty must be related to Bill Belichick, because he doesn't take NO DAYS OFF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Next video: i was wrong with this engine.
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My 2zz is 215,000 miles and still going strong ❤️2000 Celica SX Australia
Scotty they also used that 2zz Yamaha in the Lotus Elise in the early 2000's aswell.
I love my 2zzge celica gets, it's got almost 200k and I've beaten the snot out of it since I bought it
2ZZGE is much better
SAME exact powerband down low
But includes Lift for the cam profile
Mine has 104,000 mile & 0 issues
WTF are you talking about?! The 1zz had oiling issues in the beginning and there are more 200-300k mile 2zz engines than I can count. I myself have 2 of them and they've proven to be near bulletproof. I could go on, but why bother. If your 2zz is blowing up, then you're a bad driver and caretaker.
Scotty: Toyota Toyota always buy a Toyota
Also Scotty: here's why to not buy Toyota
With the 2zz it's an easy fix just get a 1zz oil pan and put it on the 2zz and if you can, get a better aftermarket oil pump
I owned one of these, a 2002 model with the 140bhp engine and manual gearbox, face-lift version. The most fun car to drive I've ever driven and the only one I ever bought new. It could potter about quietly like a sensible family car no problem yet when you felt like it, it would make you feel like a racing driver - the lightness of the car, the steering and the gear change just felt so good. What wasn't so good was being over taken by a turbo diesel hatchback on the motorway even though my right foot was almost through the floor!
So, yeah you could drive it fast without losing your license!
SCOTTY will you talk about my 08 focus all original it has 435k miles no lesks everythings original.
Happy Halloween, Scotty! Watching your videos are frighteningly good 😊 muahahaha!
Happy Halloween!
You don't blow up a 2zz by revbanging it though. Missing a shift works just a well in 1zz as 2zz.
Scotty. 2zzge are fine. Just need to swap the oil pan from à 1zz and you will have no issues at all.
Mine as 200 000 miles and it's running great and it's use for track day's ;) 😉
Mine has 230k
@@abel3619 great man ! Good to see that i'm not alone :)
I also have a 2001 Toyota Celica with the 1ZZ-FE engine with manual transmission. I've had it for 4 years and am the second owner. never had any problems with it. drive really good, it's not fast but enough for daily driving. and with (243000 km) 150,993 Miles many more can be added with good maintenance!
*_My friend has a Celica that has the LIFT, which he told me ia Toyota's Vtec version oh Honda._*
I owned a Pontiac Vibe with the 2ZZ-GE engine. I got it with 65,000 miles in 2012 and lost it to Pennsylvania rust in 2017 when it had 138,000 miles.
The engine has a bad rap, and maybe it deserves it, but I got lucky with not having any problems with it. And it was a blast to drive. The engine makes a beautiful sound at and above 6,000 rpm. It was a daily driver for my now-ex-wife and she loved it and running it at high revs even more than I did...I had to take perfect care of the thing to keep odds of failure as low as possible. Thankfully, she liked to go fast in a straight line.
Obviously, you have to thing long and hard before buying a car with one of these engines with high mileage (essentially all of them today) but they are undeniably fun.
Don't know about the Celica with Yamaha but the Taurus SHO the Yamaha designed engines breathed life into a 4 door sedan coupled to a 5 speed manual...
Man my celica has the 2zz its so fun yea VVTLI activate at 6000 rpm but once you switch the oem oil pump to the mwr billet oil pump and switch the oem 2zz oil pan to the 1zz oil pan you’ll be good the problem with the 2zz oem oil pan is that they don’t have a baffel on them idk why they didn’t put one on a high revving engine but the 1zz oil pan bolts right on or if you want to do the pricer way put the Moroso oil pan
I have a 2zz and a baffled oil pan and a stronger oil pump gear still running, its a 2000 😁
Scotty I disagree with you about the 2zz engines. They only really break when they are over revved and raced. Also Yamaha designed the head, and toyota designed the rest. Similar to the JZ (2jz,1jz) series engines
Those Yamaha 3.0 DOHC V-6 engines in the first generation Ford Taurus SHO also had a reputation for blowing up. They also burned oil and blew head gaskets at will. My favorite Celica was the RWD one in the early to mid 80s. They weren't powerful or fast but they were about bulletproof.
I liked the video. But im from Germany and i have a 250k kilometers 2z engine in my 2005 t23 toyota celica and dont have any Problems(own the car 10 years). Am i lucky or are eu cars diffrent? Would be happy to get an answer. Have a nice day!
Scotty loves xrs engine which is exactly the same engine with 7gen celica (2zzge) maybe is confused! 2zz is solid engine !👌
I'm sorry 148 hp is NOT respectable!!!
Nothing excites Scotty more than a high mileage Toyota
Toyotas built to last and might last a hundred yrs in the right conditions .
What about Scion Xc model? Those were made by toyota, 2.4L 4cylinders. Nice little reliable car, if driven properly. Part of the reason why the higher spec engines don't last is not because they're poorly made, but the folks who bought them for that higher performance and usually beat the sh!t out of them, driving and revving harder. Just like the same reason you can find many 6 cylinder model mustangs holding up better than the 8 cylinder models.
Scotty says to buy a camry
I buy a 2018- scotty- “dont buy the 2018 camry”
Scotty! I have the same 1zz-fe in my 06 Matrix (stick shift) and I hear some valve flutter between 2200-2700rpm under no load. It happens often on the highway in 5th on cruise control. It's not that annoying, easily drowned out with music, anything I should worry about??
So this Celica generation had the same engine as the 1st gen Matrix.
I just bought a Toyota with THAT engine 😱😱😱
@@NDV3355 Don't worry. 2zz engines are strong. Just don't over rev them or corner fast and you will be fine. These go easily go 200k miles with good maintenance. Scotty is just trying to scare people for views.
Scotty love the xrs and say how good is the engine witch is exactly the same as 7gen celicaGTS!!!
I have a 2003 model with nearly 300 thousand klms . 2zze corolla
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He doesn't know what hes talking about. Toyota dropped the Celica name When they launched the Scion yeah cyan brand. The scientist Scion TC stood for Toyota Celica And was basically the redesigned version. Almost all 2 + 2 Type 2 door Type coops were is were dropped in the early 2000s Due to decreasing sales. Even some of the most popular is biller "sporty" coops poops were killed like the mitsubishi eclipse, Is Honda prelude, Mazda MX6, Is Ford ZX2, Is Mercury cougar, Nissan 240SX, And even the accurate integra/RSX. Not too long after those were axed More mainstream cars like like the Honda Accord coupe and Camry solara saw their days numbered.
Happy Halloween Scotty! :)
Happy Halloween!
Hey Scotty, I want to see you put a Tesla Plaid motor in your 94 Celica. That would be a HOOT!!
Forget this old junk I want to know what you think about 2012 and newer vehicles Diesel's gas everything come on now 2017 in newer what is your opinion on them