Same goes for intel 6th gen 7th gen 8th gen and 9th gen all use same socket 1151 but they are not compatable with eachother 6th and 7th gen are compatable but if you use 7th or 8th gen cpu you need a new motherboard
@@D65248 There's no 2011-v2. There's only 2011 and 2011-3 (NOT 2011-v3, also don't ask what the logic is). 2697 v2 and v3 are different generations so them having different memory support is no wonder.
A friend of mine chose a Xeon E1231v3 instead of an Core I7 4770K back in the Haswell days, its only difference was the lack of inegrated graphics so no loss there.
i7 3770k to a xeon e3 1290 v2 similar performance cause i couldnt overclock the i7 that much but it didnt matter cause the xeon has VT-d compatibility for virtual machines
Xeons are very underrated, especially second hand ones. They're super tough so they're safe bets for second hand and there are quite a lot available making it super cheap and easy to get. But if you don't know why you'd need one, probably means you don't need one
I'm amazed how the Intel Haswell xeons perform even to this day. My Xeon E3-1231v3 I've upgraded to since 4 years ago really improved on my now 7 year old gaming rig's performance on multi-treaded games.
@@christophert320 not recommend to do that now if you want to build a 5 years pc from now should pick a i3-12100f because the upgrade of architecture is a lot more better and the throttle of e3v2 is at about rtx2060 any above will have serious cpu trotle issue with e3v2
@@Th3Tr0LLeR mine just runs well on Medium settings but I can only do 1x8GB coz 5 broken dimm slots and 16GB sticks be expensive af so the RAM just sucks
The dimms itself are broken or youve got bent CPU pins? Bent CPU pins can disable RAM slots due to not able to communicate with them. Check your board my man. (Except if they’re physically broken)
@@ramismart1963 doom eternal runs at 100fps, gta 5 runs between 50 and 70fps Cyberpunk runs between 40 and 60 fps Dead space 1 and 2 run at over 200fps 70 to 90fps in Counterstrike 2 45 to 60 fps in red dead redemption 2
I love it when Linus (And you) make those "take a cheap PC from the garbage or an old office PC and make it into a gaming PC", and Xeons are a great base for those systems
Just be careful on AliExpress because of the Off brand mobo's and it's own kit(Like Machinist, Huananzi etc.) I mean the popular memes on a Russian PC building community (besides explosive KSAS) there's a joke about the Xeons and the Chinese boards
@@Not_interestEd-except price and durability. Xeon E5 was so durable so that now they are super cheap since a lot of them can still in good conditions meanwhile the motherboard begin to malfunction
My first foray into a gaming PC build was with a $24 Xeon X3440. If you don't give a damn about playing the latest games, an old Xeon paired with a GTX 10 series is a great start.
Not always. The E3 series are restricted to the same lane count as their consumer counterparts, but the E5 series (like the ones on socket LGA 2011) have more. Something like an E5-1660 v4 has 8 cores, 16 threads, extra cache, and gives performance similar to a low end last gen CPU in gaming, but with about 40 lanes of PCIe gen 3. Very handy for cheap server building. (I have two servers running Broadwell Xeons, very useful for starting your own homelab.)
One of the most underrated feature of Xeons in budget builds. I can't ever go back to consumer platforms because of it. Until a few days ago I ran 6NVMe SSDs and GPU and did not have to share lanes, all could go at full speed. Notable mention is ECC memory, I installed 128GB in my system for the same price of 16GB "gaming" RAM or 32GB of the cheapest DIMMs out at that time.
@@saberknight2474 Also 8 cores isnt a limit. Even 16 core version is barely more expensive then 8 core one, you will spend more on ddr4 ram then on 1 or even 2 of them for dual board.
Someone selling a used Core i7 used is going to be able to get a lot more for it than someone selling the Xeon version of it. That's because far more potential buyers know about the Core versions but don't know anything about the Xeons. So that results in Xeons selling for less cost used.
@@Lavadawg Which are mandatory updated every now and then, with all parts going straight to bin, regardless of how well they were actually doing. Can find lots of good stuff for cheap or literally free if you know someone.
You should talk about used workstation gpus. Depending on the architecture, It could easily compete with video encoding (streamline gpus) with an extremely low wattage.
The only benefit of Xeons is having a lot of memory bandwidth which is crucial for memory bound workloads like scientific simulations and working with huge datasets. While almost all regular CPUs have more raw compute power which are great for compute bound applications like single threaded workloads, 3d modeling and rendering applications.
I'm literally about to buy a rig thats got a w-2145 (8c16t) 3.7 ghz boosts to 4.5 ghz, 32 gb quad channel ram, 2 tb nvme and a 3080 for 700 bucks. It will destroy many newer gaming pc's.
Not gonna lie, i've been watching mostly 25% of your youtube shorts and i can't lie your way of telling the information is the best in my opinion, thanks!
I have a Intel xeon e5-2687w v4 with a 6650 xt, 64gbs ddr4 ram, this is build plays all Aaa titles at 70 to 225fps and I stream and play games at the same time and this pc is a beast budget build but I had to do almost 3 months of research and testing to get it fine tuned, I hat to say this build turned into a 1800 dollar build
ok, e5 1650v3/v4 for easier workloads and gaming, e5 2670/2690/2697 v3/v4 for much higher workloads and gaming. the e5 26xx processors can be used in a dual x99 setup, like the hp z620 if you wanna just go ahead and buy one of those, generally for a $200 price point for a dual cpu setup. you'll be looking for the lga2011-3 socket as the v4 chips will also fit that socket. that's pretty much it guys
the entire threadripper line has dogcrap single-core perrformance. Yes a really old xeon wouldn't do great against the best threadripper, but based on what the original comment said I assumed they meant two of around the same age@@lievenz7167
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5995WX is worse performance than the Intel Xeon w9-3495X if that helps. They are both wildly powerful chips and u can find more info on comparison websites but xeon get a bad rep because they were used in low end hardware back in the day.
Using an 8 core 3.7GHz Xeon, released early 2012. Cost $10 and runs modern games no problem with an RTX 2070 and 128GB of decommissioned DDR3 server RAM ($0).
Found a xeon e3 1270 v2 for only 7 euros, its litteraly the same as i7 3770 just without igpu and higher clock speed by 0.10 ghz, so i use this for gaming and it hold up well
Intel Xeon do sometime shine as the most “cheapest” CPU in grey market. My CPU is E5-2650v2 which cost $10 and until now still works like a charm. Combining with ECC RAM which is also ironically also cheaper than Non-ECC RAM.
Got an old Xeon workstation from 2011 for free that was used for CAD and I put a Gtx 1070 in it so now able to game at 1080p medium/high settings for $120.
Even though 4th and 5th gen Xeon Scalable Workstation and Server CPU's share the same socket (LGA 4677) they are not compatible in each others motherboards. For example, the W series will only work in a W790 chipset motherboard and will not work in any motherboard with a server chipset. And if you really want a modern Xeon as your daily driver, I would recommend getting the W series. Preferably one of the X SKU's so that you can overclock it, since Intel was rather conservative with the clock speeds. You are also very unlikely to ever need any of the special accelerators inside the server oriented Xeons for your homelab.
For 10 years, I used an Intel Xeon E3-1225 processor without any problems or issues related to performance. However, recently, my motherboard broke, and I am currently in the process of upgrading to an Intel Core i7-1200K. Despite this, I plan to switch back to Xeon-based systems in the future as they are the best choice for me.
Back in 2018, i put 2 intel xeon x5690s into a dell precision t7500 workstation with 48gb of ram and a gtx 1070 ti. Was a beast. Upgraded to a ryzen because the 1333mhz ddr3 ram was slowing me down
back in the day it was way easier. i had a z77 (socket 1155) asrock board and a xeon e3 1230v2 as a cpu which was like i7 3770 equivalent at the time with about 100€ saved on the cpu side. just that you couldnt overclock it, otherwise it was a banger cpu and even ran very cool (maxed out in the mid to high 50°C on an 120mm tower cooler)
my pc is a xeon 2680 in th LGA 2011-3 socket, is great for multi thread operations, and i play most games on 60fps on medium or high settings, of course it will depend of what graphics card you are running.
I thought I knew a lot about computers or Intel’s especially but I didn’t know they actually had the E and W lineup because I always use the server/enterprise lineup😅
Some xeons that use standard consumer sockets are also only able to function with very specific chipsets. This doesn’t apply to all. LGA1155 Xeons are fully compatible with even low end consumer boards
A New zeon costs more than most people have to spend on their whole computer... The only way you're getting a zeon processor is if you get it second hand and you better be getting a motherboard with it...
in terms of gaming today... more cores is much better.. if you are tight on budget you could go for a good xeon with many cores and a decent compatible motherboard and you're good to go.
It’s not even socket based after haswell they’re also chipset based because intel would never make that mistake again. I learned this the hard way after trying to using a Skylake Xeon in z170 gaming board thinking oh they’d just work. Nope you need a server lineup chip set motherboard
Awhile back when core was still new, nobody really said much about the differences between the 2 lines and I think xeon had a higher processing speed and was more expensive so we built a PC with xeon lol. Idk what happened to it, haven't seen the person in forever.
I recommend industrial purpose only for those fan boys who say that the price is cheap in aliexpress with 14 cores I want to tell you that the launch price was 1k+ The base clock speed is low the architecture is old tho
Hmmm, I found some people using Xeon CPU for a PC. Xeon series by default it's CPU for server, workstation, even on mobile workstation (it was in the past 😅)
The reason most people dont use xeons is they usually have lower clock speeds. But some of the W series are monsters. I'm about to get a rig with the w-2145 thats 8c16t and runs base 3.7ghz and boosts to 4.5ghz. match that with 32 gb quad channel ram and a 3080 and it will run most anything at 4k 60+ fps. Usually though, xeons are in the low 2ghz and boost to high 2's ghz range, so they often dont make good gamers. But those with the higher clock speeds are monsters with the quad channel ram.
a good xeon build if your on a really tight budget would be to get a dell t3500 install an ssd and more ram and then the Xeon X5690 and for the gpu gtx 1050 ti is perfect with it as it gives 0 bottleneck
Just finishing to build Xeon E5 2650 V4 build with brand new parts and used 1080ti and full build will be less then 300 £ , could be wrong with these prices I know it's not a fancy CPU but the job will be done with 12 core 24 threads
@@superspies32Low frequency is compensated by quad-channel. Quad-channel ddr4 2400 can compete in bandwidth with dual-channel dd4 3200 or even 3600(but I'm not sure about 3600)
@@inkursion5868quad 2400 is in theory equivalent to 4800 in dual, but at easily achievable short timings. Also the ecc might make it slightly more stable
Love my Xeon workstation but it is LOUD! Had to upgrade the cooler because 140w TDP needs alot of airflow. The L3 cache sucks, but its still got enough raw horsepower to run crowds on high In Cyberpunk.
@@dalehammers4425 Yeah, I ran dual channel for a month or so before buy 2 extra sticks to utilize quad channel mode and it definitely made a difference
Depending on the generation and timing you can get something that an i7 performance for i5 price. Remember some of them don't have iGpus so you run into issues
I have a xeon in my socket 1366 mobo, upgraded from 4-core i7 to a 6-core xeon. I7-950(45n) 4c/8t @3.06ghz, 3.33ghz turbo, to xeon x5680(32n) 6c/12t @3.33ghz, 3.6ghz turbo.
Idk why lots of people hate on xeons cheap build, they offer good performance for low price. Sure you cant upgrade it, but if you want best performance for your low budjet this is by far the best option. Not everybody are capable of buying new and shiny stuff, if someone manages to build a fairly decent xeon gaming rig with low budjet, i can respect that.
Currently have two different E5 2680 v4 builds. One with a gtx 980 and the other a 1080. Both run black myth wukong and get high/epic settings out of esports titles
I got an X99 Motherboard cpu combo from ali express for 50 bucks E5-2650 v4, paired it with a Xfx 5700 xt and 32 gb of ddr4 ram.. runnin at 2133mhz sadly.. but i'm from the 90's so all this is still fast compared to dial up.. I havent found a game I cant play at ulra presets.. 60+ fps built all in all $482
Xeon E5 on LGA2011 motherboard or Xeon E3 on LGA1150 motherboard, those are the ultimate budget builds E5 Xeons perform better, around the level of an i7-4790K and Ryzen 5 3100 or higher but the 2011 mobos are a bit more expensive, while the 1150 E3 Xeons have a cheaper motherboard but their performance is a bit lower sitting between an i5-4960 and i7-4770
Xeon E3 v3 on LGA1150 are the same as 4th gen i7-4770, i7-4790 and perform the same. Xeon E5 and v2 on LGA2011 have higher core counts but are based on older Intel Core i 2nd and 3rd gen architecture. For example E5-1660 is an i7-3960X and E5-1660 v2 is equivalent to an i7-4960X. There is also the 8c/16t E5-1680 v2 which never got an i7 version. Xeon E5-26** are pretty much the same but have lower and higher core count versions and can be used in dual socket systems. Xeon E5 v3 and v4 on LGA2011-v3 are equivalent to CPUs like the i7-5960X and i7-6950X architecturally. If the core count and clock speed matches then they perform about the same.
I have a Haswell-EP Xeon (E5-2650L v3 if memory serves), it idles at around 1W and at max load (12C/24T@2.1GHz) draws under 30W. Really not great in single thread loads but those aren't my use case anyway.
The first PC I built for my self and is still running is actually a Xeon E3-1230v2. Paired with rx580 4gb Cuz budget, works and does all the things I ever need atm. I shall milk this fella until I am in need of a more power. Hopefully I don't break it prematurely
Yo I just watched a video about youtuber that sells pc, and yeah youre the best the only thing is the one build with the H610 mobo and the=at same one with a 512gb ssd cuz in your website you compared 3 games and those 3 games were a total of 280 or smthn gb just letting you know! oh also that there is no warrenty. Love From south africa!!!
Here in Brazil, like everyone likes to build a pc with Xeon, or at least I would like to since government rates are increasing, but that's beside the point, I know several people who have Xeon kits, for example a friend from school has a: X99 Zsus Motherboard Intel Xeon E5 2650 V3 16gb DDR4 (those generic green shit) RX 6600 and a Mancer Thunder 600w (the rest is basically shit from china or that already comes with the components). I mean, like, I don't think it's a bad build, I've played on this PC and it's great, but it's a risk, but I highly recommend a Xeon kit. You can get a kit Xeon X99 for like R$280, 300R$ (depends of how well you do your research) or 52$ ~ 60$, It all depends of the Xeon you are getting, the Motherboard and if it comes with ram sticks or not
My first computer I built had a Xeon e3 with an optiplex motherboard and then I plugged in a 750ti I bought at the local Best Buy for $100 at the time in 2012 I did not do my research at the ti and I had that little guy run everything until January of this year upgraded my entire rig piece by piece and got a 3050 still gamin at 1080p
Thought it couldn’t get more confusing than Intel cpus but here we are
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Intel’s consumer lineup is extremely simple
it IS intel though
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BTW, some Xeon cpus are incompatible even on the same socket, it depends on chipset and manufacturer.
Makes sense, like on am4 with older zen and new chipset
Same goes for intel 6th gen 7th gen 8th gen and 9th gen all use same socket 1151 but they are not compatable with eachother 6th and 7th gen are compatable but if you use 7th or 8th gen cpu you need a new motherboard
Thats the case for literally every socket that has had an additional release CPU, ever.
Nad count that e5 2697v 2 Havel ddr3 but 2697 v3 have ddr4, it’s like for socket 2011-v3 is something different than 2011-v2
@@D65248 There's no 2011-v2. There's only 2011 and 2011-3 (NOT 2011-v3, also don't ask what the logic is). 2697 v2 and v3 are different generations so them having different memory support is no wonder.
A friend of mine chose a Xeon E1231v3 instead of an Core I7 4770K back in the Haswell days, its only difference was the lack of inegrated graphics so no loss there.
Better comparison would be the i7-4790 non-K. The i7-4770K (and 4790K) have unlocked multiplier unlike the non-K and the Xeons
I did the same it worked so well with GTX 1080.
Same here, used the Xeon 1231 for several years, great CPU value for its time
i7 3770k to a xeon e3 1290 v2 similar performance cause i couldnt overclock the i7 that much but it didnt matter cause the xeon has VT-d compatibility for virtual machines
2 xeon 8490h + 120 rtx 4090 best gaming pc
*Turned a fair few workstations into gaming machines on a budget, the Xeons have very good price to performance on some of the older gens*
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Okay but what the hell does :yt: mean?
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@@SpartanJoe193 yeah but which one?
@@toperaheemprob youtube
@@toperaheem It's a YT only emoji.
Xeons are very underrated, especially second hand ones. They're super tough so they're safe bets for second hand and there are quite a lot available making it super cheap and easy to get. But if you don't know why you'd need one, probably means you don't need one
Yes couldn't agree with you more, I'm planning to build a Xeon E5 2630 V3 based build soon... motherboard availablity is the main issue
With the turbo unlock mod
i agree. 2680 V4 with machinist pr9 go crazy
Agreed they are always cheap because of all the companies and their constant change in hardware for their equipment
Thing is that 10th gen i7 still cost a lot for a CPU production that starts 4 years ago and it has been discontinued
I'm amazed how the Intel Haswell xeons perform even to this day. My Xeon E3-1231v3 I've upgraded to since 4 years ago really improved on my now 7 year old gaming rig's performance on multi-treaded games.
I am now using e3-1230v2😂😂 we are same
Xeon E3 1240 V2 here 😂
Great choice. I often use those and 1271v3 for my budget builds when the price is right.
@@christophert320 not recommend to do that now if you want to build a 5 years pc from now should pick a i3-12100f because the upgrade of architecture is a lot more better and the throttle of e3v2 is at about rtx2060 any above will have serious cpu trotle issue with e3v2
Just upgraded myself to E3-1281 v3. Feels a lot better than the i7-4790K.
I have a 12 year old Xeon X5650 in my PC and it still works like a charm
Red read redemption at ultra settings and 57% CPU load 😂😂 Xeon 2689 v2
@@Th3Tr0LLeR mine just runs well on Medium settings but I can only do 1x8GB coz 5 broken dimm slots and 16GB sticks be expensive af so the RAM just sucks
The dimms itself are broken or youve got bent CPU pins? Bent CPU pins can disable RAM slots due to not able to communicate with them. Check your board my man. (Except if they’re physically broken)
@@Th3Tr0LLeR nope the slots are broken I tested in someone elses motherboard and it just worked
Oh wait pins are also on the motherboard
Using a Xeon E5 1620V2 LGA 2011 CPU paired with an RX580, it has served me well for 4 years now
I feel u i have xeon e5 1650 v4 with rx 5700 xt and for the price i got this back then i can't complain
Can you tell me the benchmarks for some of the games you tried plz ?
@@ramismart1963 doom eternal runs at 100fps, gta 5 runs between 50 and 70fps
Cyberpunk runs between 40 and 60 fps
Dead space 1 and 2 run at over 200fps
70 to 90fps in Counterstrike 2
45 to 60 fps in red dead redemption 2
@@alexfrideres1198what settings do you run those on?
@@dumbcarclips I can run red dead 2 on a mix of high and ultra at 40-60fps
I love it when Linus (And you) make those "take a cheap PC from the garbage or an old office PC and make it into a gaming PC", and Xeons are a great base for those systems
Russians poor pc builder’s: THIS IS FOR ME?!
Your a real russian comrade
Yes, this is for me!
Just be careful on AliExpress because of the Off brand mobo's and it's own kit(Like Machinist, Huananzi etc.) I mean the popular memes on a Russian PC building community (besides explosive KSAS) there's a joke about the Xeons and the Chinese boards
@@xenofan7705 😏
you mean latin america
Can't believe Intel is using CSGO tier ranks to separate it's own CPUs.
All hail Xeon! ☠️
We are the chosen Master-core. ✨✨✨
Doesn't Threadripper destroy Xeons in pretty much any application? No shade, just curious.
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they did but it made xeon more affordable in used market, tbh durability on xeon in terms of quality is better ngl@@Not_interestEd-
@@Not_interestEd-thought the same
@@Not_interestEd-except price and durability. Xeon E5 was so durable so that now they are super cheap since a lot of them can still in good conditions meanwhile the motherboard begin to malfunction
In Russia are very popular xeons for Lga 2011v3
и v4
My first foray into a gaming PC build was with a $24 Xeon X3440. If you don't give a damn about playing the latest games, an old Xeon paired with a GTX 10 series is a great start.
The benefits of xeon is they have many pcie lanes
Except E series.
@@gamtax but on old cpu(core series) only have 16lane but E3 has 20lanes
Not always. The E3 series are restricted to the same lane count as their consumer counterparts, but the E5 series (like the ones on socket LGA 2011) have more. Something like an E5-1660 v4 has 8 cores, 16 threads, extra cache, and gives performance similar to a low end last gen CPU in gaming, but with about 40 lanes of PCIe gen 3. Very handy for cheap server building. (I have two servers running Broadwell Xeons, very useful for starting your own homelab.)
One of the most underrated feature of Xeons in budget builds. I can't ever go back to consumer platforms because of it. Until a few days ago I ran 6NVMe SSDs and GPU and did not have to share lanes, all could go at full speed.
Notable mention is ECC memory, I installed 128GB in my system for the same price of 16GB "gaming" RAM or 32GB of the cheapest DIMMs out at that time.
@@saberknight2474 Also 8 cores isnt a limit. Even 16 core version is barely more expensive then 8 core one, you will spend more on ddr4 ram then on 1 or even 2 of them for dual board.
Someone selling a used Core i7 used is going to be able to get a lot more for it than someone selling the Xeon version of it. That's because far more potential buyers know about the Core versions but don't know anything about the Xeons. So that results in Xeons selling for less cost used.
The sad part is the quad channel ram does wonders with the xeons too, the lower clock speeds (usually) are often more than overcome by ridiculous ram.
the xeons are sold because they were pulled out of old ahhh servers they're sold by the buckets
@@Lavadawg Which are mandatory updated every now and then, with all parts going straight to bin, regardless of how well they were actually doing. Can find lots of good stuff for cheap or literally free if you know someone.
You should talk about used workstation gpus. Depending on the architecture, It could easily compete with video encoding (streamline gpus) with an extremely low wattage.
The only benefit of Xeons is having a lot of memory bandwidth which is crucial for memory bound workloads like scientific simulations and working with huge datasets.
While almost all regular CPUs have more raw compute power which are great for compute bound applications like single threaded workloads, 3d modeling and rendering applications.
You forgot they're also dirt cheap
The xeon w is an actual W! 🔥🔥🔥
I'm literally about to buy a rig thats got a w-2145 (8c16t) 3.7 ghz boosts to 4.5 ghz, 32 gb quad channel ram, 2 tb nvme and a 3080 for 700 bucks. It will destroy many newer gaming pc's.
I had a sandy bridge xeon on the optiplex PC that I case swapped and sold on Jawa and it performs pretty good
Not gonna lie, i've been watching mostly 25% of your youtube shorts and i can't lie your way of telling the information is the best in my opinion, thanks!
I have a Intel xeon e5-2687w v4 with a 6650 xt, 64gbs ddr4 ram, this is build plays all Aaa titles at 70 to 225fps and I stream and play games at the same time and this pc is a beast budget build but I had to do almost 3 months of research and testing to get it fine tuned, I hat to say this build turned into a 1800 dollar build
ok, e5 1650v3/v4 for easier workloads and gaming, e5 2670/2690/2697 v3/v4 for much higher workloads and gaming. the e5 26xx processors can be used in a dual x99 setup, like the hp z620 if you wanna just go ahead and buy one of those, generally for a $200 price point for a dual cpu setup. you'll be looking for the lga2011-3 socket as the v4 chips will also fit that socket. that's pretty much it guys
The scalpers ... They know what they're doing ..
I never knew Intel Xeon can be used in a pc. Wonder how it fares against the Threadripper
Much better single-core performance
@@kooldudeno-lastnamedepends on the cpu
the entire threadripper line has dogcrap single-core perrformance. Yes a really old xeon wouldn't do great against the best threadripper, but based on what the original comment said I assumed they meant two of around the same age@@lievenz7167
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5995WX is worse performance than the Intel Xeon w9-3495X if that helps. They are both wildly powerful chips and u can find more info on comparison websites but xeon get a bad rep because they were used in low end hardware back in the day.
The first computer I ever built with my dad had a xeon X3320. The computer still works 16 years later. Still plays games.
Using an 8 core 3.7GHz Xeon, released early 2012.
Cost $10 and runs modern games no problem with an RTX 2070 and 128GB of decommissioned DDR3 server RAM ($0).
Found a xeon e3 1270 v2 for only 7 euros, its litteraly the same as i7 3770 just without igpu and higher clock speed by 0.10 ghz, so i use this for gaming and it hold up well
Intel Xeon do sometime shine as the most “cheapest” CPU in grey market. My CPU is E5-2650v2 which cost $10 and until now still works like a charm. Combining with ECC RAM which is also ironically also cheaper than Non-ECC RAM.
Got an old Xeon workstation from 2011 for free that was used for CAD and I put a Gtx 1070 in it so now able to game at 1080p medium/high settings for $120.
Even though 4th and 5th gen Xeon Scalable Workstation and Server CPU's share the same socket (LGA 4677) they are not compatible in each others motherboards.
For example, the W series will only work in a W790 chipset motherboard and will not work in any motherboard with a server chipset.
And if you really want a modern Xeon as your daily driver, I would recommend getting the W series. Preferably one of the X SKU's so that you can overclock it, since Intel was rather conservative with the clock speeds.
You are also very unlikely to ever need any of the special accelerators inside the server oriented Xeons for your homelab.
For 10 years, I used an Intel Xeon E3-1225 processor without any problems or issues related to performance. However, recently, my motherboard broke, and I am currently in the process of upgrading to an Intel Core i7-1200K. Despite this, I plan to switch back to Xeon-based systems in the future as they are the best choice for me.
My favorite processor family, nothing else gives me joy anymore. The only problem is that they are very hard to find and expensive.
New ones. Old stuff on 2011 is everywhere, and you can (maybe) find something for 2066. But beyond that - a gigant paywall.
Back in 2018, i put 2 intel xeon x5690s into a dell precision t7500 workstation with 48gb of ram and a gtx 1070 ti. Was a beast. Upgraded to a ryzen because the 1333mhz ddr3 ram was slowing me down
my daily is a Dual Xeon 2690v4, paired with a 1070, and it handles all my Pre-2018 games. haven't tried anything recent on it.
Haswell and Broadwell Xeons are pretty affordable and can be used in X99 motherboards.
back in the day it was way easier. i had a z77 (socket 1155) asrock board and a xeon e3 1230v2 as a cpu which was like i7 3770 equivalent at the time with about 100€ saved on the cpu side. just that you couldnt overclock it, otherwise it was a banger cpu and even ran very cool (maxed out in the mid to high 50°C on an 120mm tower cooler)
my pc is a xeon 2680 in th LGA 2011-3 socket, is great for multi thread operations, and i play most games on 60fps on medium or high settings, of course it will depend of what graphics card you are running.
I thought I knew a lot about computers or Intel’s especially but I didn’t know they actually had the E and W lineup because I always use the server/enterprise lineup😅
Some xeons that use standard consumer sockets are also only able to function with very specific chipsets. This doesn’t apply to all. LGA1155 Xeons are fully compatible with even low end consumer boards
Planning to do a Xeon build soon...so far motherboard availablity is the main concern and issue...
just get one of those chinese aliexpress mboso for xeon use on a normal desktop something like a machinis pr9
I bought an old HP ProLiant DL380p with dual E5 2696v2, i put an RTX 2060 in the server and now is good for gaming
A New zeon costs more than most people have to spend on their whole computer... The only way you're getting a zeon processor is if you get it second hand and you better be getting a motherboard with it...
in terms of gaming today... more cores is much better.. if you are tight on budget you could go for a good xeon with many cores and a decent compatible motherboard and you're good to go.
I used an E5 2620 for years. Good solid chip.
Yes they have the same compatability.
Look up the socket type when shopping for a cpu. They're categorized by an LGA (Land Grid Array). So match the Socket Name with the cpu and board.
Currently rockin my xeon e5 2699v3!
Lol 145 w
E5 2695v4 is the best with only 120w
@@maanmahmoud4537 core Count, and optane support
It’s not even socket based after haswell they’re also chipset based because intel would never make that mistake again. I learned this the hard way after trying to using a Skylake Xeon in z170 gaming board thinking oh they’d just work. Nope you need a server lineup chip set motherboard
Xeons are great, if you’re building on Haswell or X99 and older. Newer desktop chipsets don’t support Xeons.
''Can I use this?'' - ''Well, sure, if you know what you're doing.'' This broke the internet today.
Awhile back when core was still new, nobody really said much about the differences between the 2 lines and I think xeon had a higher processing speed and was more expensive so we built a PC with xeon lol.
Idk what happened to it, haven't seen the person in forever.
I recommend industrial purpose only for those fan boys who say that the price is cheap in aliexpress with 14 cores I want to tell you that the launch price was 1k+
The base clock speed is low the architecture is old tho
Hmmm, I found some people using Xeon CPU for a PC. Xeon series by default it's CPU for server, workstation, even on mobile workstation (it was in the past 😅)
The reason most people dont use xeons is they usually have lower clock speeds. But some of the W series are monsters. I'm about to get a rig with the w-2145 thats 8c16t and runs base 3.7ghz and boosts to 4.5ghz. match that with 32 gb quad channel ram and a 3080 and it will run most anything at 4k 60+ fps. Usually though, xeons are in the low 2ghz and boost to high 2's ghz range, so they often dont make good gamers. But those with the higher clock speeds are monsters with the quad channel ram.
Agree i am saving for xeon now... Hope its enough soon
a good xeon build if your on a really tight budget would be to get a dell t3500 install an ssd and more ram and then the Xeon X5690 and for the gpu gtx 1050 ti is perfect with it as it gives 0 bottleneck
Just finishing to build Xeon E5 2650 V4 build with brand new parts and used 1080ti and full build will be less then 300 £ , could be wrong with these prices
I know it's not a fancy CPU but the job will be done with 12 core 24 threads
Im getting xeon e5 2650 v4 and rx 580 8gb and 16gb ram prebuilt with rgb, rlly good upgrade from my i5 6500 and gt 1030 8gb of ram
For more recent watchers: Apparently the newest Xeon models have the same instability issues as the 13th and 14th gen i9s
Im using a E5 2680 v4 14 core 28 thread and it works perfectly with 32gb ram
Does the low frequency supported for RAM affect to performance of games or server program?
@@superspies32Low frequency is compensated by quad-channel. Quad-channel ddr4 2400 can compete in bandwidth with dual-channel dd4 3200 or even 3600(but I'm not sure about 3600)
@@inkursion5868 quad channel ram is SERIOUSLY underestimated.
@@inkursion5868quad 2400 is in theory equivalent to 4800 in dual, but at easily achievable short timings. Also the ecc might make it slightly more stable
Can I use non ecc rams
Love my Xeon workstation but it is LOUD! Had to upgrade the cooler because 140w TDP needs alot of airflow. The L3 cache sucks, but its still got enough raw horsepower to run crowds on high In Cyberpunk.
People seriously underestimate what quad channel ram can do for gaming.
the e5-2698 v3 and 2697 v3/v4 both have 40mb and over l3 cache's
@@GaahlDukat mine is a w-2135 and only has 8mb.
@@dalehammers4425 Yeah, I ran dual channel for a month or so before buy 2 extra sticks to utilize quad channel mode and it definitely made a difference
All about that cache, baby...
Depending on the generation and timing you can get something that an i7 performance for i5 price. Remember some of them don't have iGpus so you run into issues
X99 Xeons are still super capable for budget gaming builds
I have a xeon in my socket 1366 mobo, upgraded from 4-core i7 to a 6-core xeon.
I7-950(45n) 4c/8t @3.06ghz, 3.33ghz turbo, to xeon x5680(32n) 6c/12t @3.33ghz, 3.6ghz turbo.
Idk why lots of people hate on xeons cheap build, they offer good performance for low price. Sure you cant upgrade it, but if you want best performance for your low budjet this is by far the best option. Not everybody are capable of buying new and shiny stuff, if someone manages to build a fairly decent xeon gaming rig with low budjet, i can respect that.
Running 2066 xeon with amd radeon graphics and I honestly wouldnt ever go back to consumer platforms, it's just not simply worth it
The original i9 processors were failed Xeon server processors.
Currently have two different E5 2680 v4 builds. One with a gtx 980 and the other a 1080. Both run black myth wukong and get high/epic settings out of esports titles
the pentium popping up was funny
the w-2135/45 xeon's with quad channel ram are vicious gaming rigs and they are cheap too.
Wish you wouldve gave me deeper info than a surface level google search
kinda hard to do under a minute
Here in brazil, a lot of people buy xeons from aliexpress since prices here are expensive
got a xeon x5650, shares same lga 1366 socket as first gen core i7 cpus
I have a dual xeon platinum box, not the best gaming machine but an s tier workstation
as an old ahh xeon user I can confirm that it's great
i think the person was asking about older xeons woth builds that you see around yt and he saw how cheap they are and thats prob the reason he asked
Darn he only just posted this lol
I was 2nd to comment
I got an X99 Motherboard cpu combo from ali express for 50 bucks E5-2650 v4, paired it with a Xfx 5700 xt and 32 gb of ddr4 ram.. runnin at 2133mhz sadly.. but i'm from the 90's so all this is still fast compared to dial up.. I havent found a game I cant play at ulra presets.. 60+ fps built all in all $482
e5's are great for sub 300 builds
Xeon E5 on LGA2011 motherboard or Xeon E3 on LGA1150 motherboard, those are the ultimate budget builds
E5 Xeons perform better, around the level of an i7-4790K and Ryzen 5 3100 or higher but the 2011 mobos are a bit more expensive, while the 1150 E3 Xeons have a cheaper motherboard but their performance is a bit lower sitting between an i5-4960 and i7-4770
Xeon E3 v3 on LGA1150 are the same as 4th gen i7-4770, i7-4790 and perform the same.
Xeon E5 and v2 on LGA2011 have higher core counts but are based on older Intel Core i 2nd and 3rd gen architecture. For example E5-1660 is an i7-3960X and E5-1660 v2 is equivalent to an i7-4960X. There is also the 8c/16t E5-1680 v2 which never got an i7 version. Xeon E5-26** are pretty much the same but have lower and higher core count versions and can be used in dual socket systems.
Xeon E5 v3 and v4 on LGA2011-v3 are equivalent to CPUs like the i7-5960X and i7-6950X architecturally. If the core count and clock speed matches then they perform about the same.
Cmon... Pls make a budget xeon pc
i agree, i wanna see an ali express build
It may be in my future home server
I have a Haswell-EP Xeon (E5-2650L v3 if memory serves), it idles at around 1W and at max load (12C/24T@2.1GHz) draws under 30W. Really not great in single thread loads but those aren't my use case anyway.
Played on a xeon for 6 years it could handle anything
I am making this comment from the computer where I use my dual xeon e5 2683 v4 processors, it is absolutely perfect.
The first PC I built for my self and is still running is actually a Xeon E3-1230v2. Paired with rx580 4gb
Cuz budget, works and does all the things I ever need atm. I shall milk this fella until I am in need of a more power. Hopefully I don't break it prematurely
For 100$ for cpu, motherboard and ram nothing could be better
I got an 10€ xeon btw its an e3-1225-v3 it works in an dell optiplex 7020
The W lineup
Some are absolute monsters, about to get a w-2145 rig myself.
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i have a pc with an old xeon a gtx 1650 and 16 gigs o fram it is my best purchase because it perfect for what i play
They’re not budget. The Xeon E-2378 costs about $600. You’re better off with an AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d for gaming.
i have a 1620 v2 paired with an rtx 2060 and it does 1080p gaming very well
best GPU for i5 4590
I'd throw in a used GTX 1060 or RX 580, really cheap cards but perform just fine
1060/580 max. but 4 threads won't cut it just get a xeon e3 1230 v3, compatible with lga 1150
Here in Brazil, like everyone likes to build a pc with Xeon, or at least I would like to since government rates are increasing, but that's beside the point, I know several people who have Xeon kits, for example a friend from school has a:
X99 Zsus Motherboard
Intel Xeon E5 2650 V3
16gb DDR4 (those generic green shit)
RX 6600
and a Mancer Thunder 600w (the rest is basically shit from china or that already comes with the components).
I mean, like, I don't think it's a bad build, I've played on this PC and it's great, but it's a risk, but I highly recommend a Xeon kit.
You can get a kit Xeon X99 for like R$280, 300R$ (depends of how well you do your research) or 52$ ~ 60$, It all depends of the Xeon you are getting, the Motherboard and if it comes with ram sticks or not
A phenom x4 980 with a bad ass video card will stomp ass... depends on the build
My first computer I built had a Xeon e3 with an optiplex motherboard and then I plugged in a 750ti I bought at the local Best Buy for $100 at the time in 2012 I did not do my research at the ti and I had that little guy run everything until January of this year upgraded my entire rig piece by piece and got a 3050 still gamin at 1080p
2nd, also i never used a xeon in my life but, i tought thet were for workstations not ofr gaming
Yeah, they're for workstations. Gaming has a relatively bad performance in it.
I've turned a few workstations to gaming machines.
@@AlexHusTech dang
@@concordemachspeed24Bad for price, but very good in raw power
@@carlosm.sierra1465 new yeah, but used xeons are dirt cheap and the W line are monster gaming chips.
I am getting a xeon processor that barely bottlenecks a 4060 and it is only like 15 pounds
I used an older Xeon E series.
Had 16 Cores and worked fine. Was still worse than my Ryzen 5 5600