The Indo-European Family

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  • @Indo-EuropeanOfficial
    @Indo-EuropeanOfficial  4 дні тому +32

    On the diagram of Schleicher's tree model, I accidentally have the labels for "Slavo-Germanic" and "Balto-Slavic" switched around. You can check the research document linked in the description to see the original image of the tree.

  • @Dollusionist
    @Dollusionist 5 днів тому +37

    great video, i appreciate what must be the insane amount of research you put into everything. i look forward to the next one!

    • @Indo-EuropeanOfficial
      @Indo-EuropeanOfficial  4 дні тому +10

      Hiring a passionate researcher has definitely helped to bring my channel to the next level.

  • @kornsuwin
    @kornsuwin 3 дні тому +9

    i love the verdana jumpscares from when the font you guys use doesn't have a glyph for schwa

  • @FeHearts
    @FeHearts 4 дні тому +5

    The thing I love most about this channel is that it gives you the origins of an idea.
    As a lover of history it allows one to connect the dots of why a certain people at a certain time believed something when you know what terminology was popular when and where.

  • @jeanneslepeshau
    @jeanneslepeshau 4 дні тому +10

    i still wonder to this day how many Indo-European branches were lost forever simply because they were never written

  • @FOLIPE
    @FOLIPE 2 дні тому +2

    Awesome video, great amount of work.

  • @ItsFineWW
    @ItsFineWW 14 годин тому

    Best private academia on UA-cam right now. Great work and editing. Loved the recommended and shown books of original and translated titles so one can read where the ideas and comparisons came from . Very interesting stuff!

  • @jvanvuren5399
    @jvanvuren5399 5 днів тому +11

    excellent video

  • @deithlan
    @deithlan 2 дні тому +1

    This is an amazing video, probably the best introduction to the family I’ve ever seen.

  • @blugaledoh2669
    @blugaledoh2669 4 дні тому +4

    This channel is going to grow big

  • @OmegaWolf747
    @OmegaWolf747 5 днів тому +21

    The Yamnaya and Sintashta!

  • @antadhg
    @antadhg 4 дні тому +3

    Great series. Looking forward to the next vids.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 дні тому +6

    11:17 it would be amazing if someone took the wave model and had it come twords us along the Y axis changing. Computers dont limit us to X and Z anymore, we can add the time dimension if anyones willing to make the animation.

  • @mmdrezakh
    @mmdrezakh 2 дні тому +2

    jeets bout to go crazy with dis one

  • @askadia
    @askadia Годину тому

    You just gained a new subscriber. Wonderful video

  • @MrCharlieBros
    @MrCharlieBros 4 дні тому +2

    I was looking something to watch and this gem was just suddenly uploaded, neat!

  • @taihao.multimedia
    @taihao.multimedia 2 дні тому +2

    Trivia: the Brothers Grimm of fairytale fame were also linguists.

  • @K2ELP
    @K2ELP 2 дні тому

    Leaving a comment for the algorithm, as I like all 3 videos this channel has uploaded so far very much

  • @ricardotabone3231
    @ricardotabone3231 День тому

    This an absolutely fascinating video. 💯
    The very best in the subject!
    Thank you very much!
    It's wonderful to see Ferdinand's contribution even though Neogrammarians were not Saussure about that 😂

  • @colinsingleton3810
    @colinsingleton3810 4 дні тому +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for all the research this must have entailed.

  • @jacobknepp2925
    @jacobknepp2925 4 дні тому +2

    Great channel. Very interested in historical Lingustics

  • @lyvras
    @lyvras 4 дні тому

    a very interesting video and a good jumping block for the next video!

  • @pasmal_lesbzez
    @pasmal_lesbzez 3 дні тому +1

    Fantastic video! Showed this to my gf as an introduction

  • @Luki25317
    @Luki25317 4 дні тому +2

    17:06 It was the palatalised /ḱ/ sound such as in the word "ḱm̥tóm" and not "plain" /k/ which became /s/ etc. in satem languages.

    • @Luki25317
      @Luki25317 4 дні тому +2

      Therefore there has also been a different sound change in Latin etc. from /ḱ/ > /k/.

  • @ferdi5407
    @ferdi5407 4 дні тому

    Could not manage to follow linguistics - too immersed in this amazing , 'climb into your soul' VOICE!! Will have to watch again ( many times)

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 дні тому +2

    An interesting thing if you know grims law is if you take proto germanic and undo it the resulting language sounds very baltic to my ear.

    • @katon44
      @katon44 3 години тому

      there's no proto-germanic language 😂

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 години тому

      @@katon44 With a face of shock thinks to himself - people like this exist...

    • @katon44
      @katon44 3 години тому

      ​​​​​​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714indeed people with knowledge from researches made in 21 century live nowadays as well as some with imperial fantasy of 18-19 century on some deep anglosaxon (not really prussian itself) province / there're two groups of indoeuropan (r1) invaders of europe after iceberg's period of time - baltoslavs (r1a) and italocelts (r1b) like in old scythian legend about two brothers,both groups merged with old europeans (i2),nordic one (i1) which might be connected to there "proto-germanic" bullshit seems to be moved from scandinavia thousand years later after invasion of r1a and r1b there / dna cannot lie,evidence's like battle of doleza,battle of tollense or lusatian culture,then pomeranian culture and andronovo culture as well

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 години тому

      @@katon44 ŠMH - What are you on?

    • @katon44
      @katon44 2 години тому

      ​​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714no "germans" or "germanic" until invasion of r1a and r1b to scandinavia (conquest of old europeans i1,old gods died) nor moving out alemans (franks) to europe paid by byzantium empire

  • @GrimLordofOregon
    @GrimLordofOregon 4 дні тому

    Very informative!

  • @854gabryel
    @854gabryel 3 дні тому

    I think the amount of effort and the quality of this video are very high.
    Only one thing I found a bit annoying was spelling each work’s complete name in whatever language. I was wondering why it was neccessay. But don’t mind me.
    Nice informative video nonetheless

  • @jamiee7367
    @jamiee7367 4 дні тому +12

    On the diagram of the tree model, I think you accidentally have the labels for "Slavo-Germanic" and "Balto-Slavic" switched around.

  • @AveragePsychologist
    @AveragePsychologist 5 днів тому +1

    Amazing video!
    Could the languages be classified like this? Did some research and ended up making this chart:
    1. Anatolian.
    2. Tocharian.
    3. Germano-Italo-Celtic.
    3.1. Germanic.
    3.2. Italo-Celtic.
    3.2.1. Italic.
    3.2.2. Celtic.
    4. Paleo Balkan.
    4.1. Albanian.
    4.2. Graeco-Armenian.
    4.2.1. Greek.
    4.2.2. Armenian.
    5. Indo-Slavic.
    5.1. Indo-Iranian.
    5.1.1. Indic.
    5.1.2. Iranian.
    5.1.3. Nuristani.
    5.2. Balto-Slavic.
    5.2.1. Baltic.
    5.2.2. Slavic.

  • @liquidoxygen819
    @liquidoxygen819 4 дні тому +1

    I actually don't understand why the Neogrammarians felt that Laryngeal Theory didn't accord with their own views... isn't it positing a systematic sound change in the Neogrammarian tradition to resolve seeming exceptions?

    • @6515cg
      @6515cg 4 дні тому +2

      Yes, but until hittite, it was only a theoretical, without ‘textual’ evidence. It’s like as if Saussure was pointing at a void, and the rest simply said “I don’t see anything!” Only after Hittite decipherment could the ‘void’ be filled with a tangible lagyngeal. Now there was actually visible evidence of a phoneme having existed beyond its ripple effects that it left on the surrounding vowels.

    • @liquidoxygen819
      @liquidoxygen819 2 дні тому

      @@6515cg But to me, it seems that his proposal would still neatly comport to exactly what the Neogrammarians wanted. I’m surprised they didn’t jump on board with the prediction

  • @meteorname
    @meteorname 4 дні тому

    I love that you put effort into pronouncing German correctly!

  • @olbiomoiros
    @olbiomoiros 3 дні тому

    There’s also the Greek φράτηρ not meaning brother but kinsman. It is not a loan word.

  • @wotislife2410
    @wotislife2410 4 дні тому

    In the last Proto-Indo-European family tree you didn't put Manx or Cornish in the tree.

    • @pasmal_lesbzez
      @pasmal_lesbzez 3 дні тому +1

      He omitted many individual languages within the branches. Otherwise the tree would have been too big and unreadable

  • @an0nycat
    @an0nycat День тому +1

    Oh! Easy! Flame in Russian is Plamea, Five=Piat, mother=mater, three=Tree, tree=drevo. So just need change F to P, T to D, TH to T.
    English is a very strange language. And who invented the sound TH when there is just T. 😅😅🤔🤔

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 дні тому +2

    Why do you pronounce german words with "g" as if it was "h"? Its August not Auhust.

  • @mc5574
    @mc5574 День тому

    1:28
    Netherlands are not included, lol

  • @alaksiejstankievicx
    @alaksiejstankievicx 4 дні тому +1

    In the last diagramm the Belarusian (and debatably Ruthenian) is missing.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 дні тому +1

    2:07 that is not e, that is ē, vowel lengh man, it matters. Imagine if the /i/ in ease /i:z/ and is /iz/ was pronounced the same by someone, uninteligable speach.

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush 4 дні тому

    The out of ukr guys got vindicated.

  • @josepheridu3322
    @josepheridu3322 3 дні тому +1

    I wonder if early indo-Europeans people had any kind of communication with Sumerians. Maybe they exchanged some words.

    • @nyko921
      @nyko921 2 дні тому

      Seems unlikely as they inhabited different sides of the caucasus range, and to this day the caucasus is still extremely difficult to traverse

  • @Palladiosios
    @Palladiosios 3 дні тому

    Crazy

  • @jackweisensee5747
    @jackweisensee5747 11 годин тому

    The german pronunciation of titles could be dropped. It feels pretentious when you don’t also say the English translation. Great channel ty for the videos

  • @Kerguelen.Mapping
    @Kerguelen.Mapping 5 днів тому +41

    0 comments in 34 minutes bro fell off

    • @rajdhonsinghngangbam1848
      @rajdhonsinghngangbam1848 4 дні тому

      Shut up lil bro

    • @giorgospapoutsakis5271
      @giorgospapoutsakis5271 4 дні тому +6

      Let this god awful meme die already

    • @icygeometry
      @icygeometry 3 дні тому +4

      ​@@giorgospapoutsakis5271 I'm honestly bewildered by the fact that the god awful meme even made it this far, because the way I remember it is that the first people to have pioneered this god awful comment trend are Pyrocynical's slop viewers, which now just goes to explain why every time I read the comment format reused by someone it irks me somehow

    • @NetarAlt
      @NetarAlt 3 дні тому +2

      0 replies in 1 second, don't be a hypocrite

    • @NetarAlt
      @NetarAlt 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@icygeometry Agreed

  • @MilanKFP
    @MilanKFP 4 дні тому

    Are u using ur real voice this time

    • @Indo-EuropeanOfficial
      @Indo-EuropeanOfficial  4 дні тому +3

      I hired a narrator.

    • @mariiris1403
      @mariiris1403 3 дні тому

      @@Indo-EuropeanOfficial Could you tell him, that Scandinavian Kn- ,in for instanstance Knut, is pronounced KN- ? This is true for Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

  • @dainagrn7030
    @dainagrn7030 4 дні тому

    Brolis

  • @PhuongNguyen-w6h3s
    @PhuongNguyen-w6h3s 4 дні тому

    ❤😊

  • @katon44
    @katon44 3 години тому

    it might be far clear to compare other's european language's with ancient sanskrit especially theraweda (dead language),not some mixed language's like greek,roman and the most funny english (that's pathetic) 😂 go back from imperialism of 18-19 century and move out to 21 century

  • @S.J.L
    @S.J.L 4 дні тому +1

    All Indo European nations should be united. It would be good for the broader culture and global stability.

    • @zvidanyatvetski8081
      @zvidanyatvetski8081 4 дні тому

      Let me guess, you're american

    • @S.J.L
      @S.J.L 4 дні тому

      @@zvidanyatvetski8081 Yes, the main country and ethnicity needed to pull of anything. Nothing worth doing is easy but it is an obvious and practical aim. If you have any valid criticisms then I'll hear them but you have revealed nothing so far but your own bias.

    • @RogerRamos1993
      @RogerRamos1993 4 дні тому

      Not united as in one country, you mean? That would be a hellava country.

    • @S.J.L
      @S.J.L 4 дні тому

      @@RogerRamos1993 That would be. I'm thinking more along a NATO like alliance and core trade network with a revival of Indo European religion and culture. This would also favor migration between these nations.
      I'd like to see us less involved with the middle east politically and spiritually. I realize China is a bit hostile but I think we can have a broadly United Eurasia with Eurasianism and Atlanticism in union.
      I realize Iran is a hard case but I think bringing India into this alliance and encouraging a cultural revival in Europe and the Americas is doable and necessary.

    • @S.J.L
      @S.J.L 4 дні тому

      Some alliances and even redrawing of borders or defacto unifications are sensible but I'm ultimately for national sovereignty and voluntary cooperation. That said a nation must be able to stand on its own two feet or it's not naturally viable.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 5 днів тому +2

    Don't use "Indo-European," use "Aryan" instead.

    • @iillililillliliilliiililil5066
      @iillililillliliilliiililil5066 5 днів тому +15

      “Aryan” refers specifically to the Proto-Indo-Europeans who migrated to Iran and India

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 5 днів тому +2

      @@iillililillliliilliiililil5066 Still Aryans. Europeans have no relation to pajeeeeeets.

    • @freealliance2505
      @freealliance2505 4 дні тому +3

      @@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 pajeets look more closer to Yamnayas, brown eyes black hair.

    • @sqrt2295
      @sqrt2295 4 дні тому +1

      That term is more so used for the Indo-Iranian languages, since that's a shared term used by both the Indic and Iranian branches.

    • @ceohadenough894
      @ceohadenough894 4 дні тому +11

      Lmfao I'm a european and I know we aren't Aryan. We are European. Period