I'm an atheist, however I would like to say that I did a year long choral regiment with almost all Palestrina music. I learned to understand the deep meaning behind the translations, which alone are enough to bring me to tears. Let alone the lovely and powerful notes that the words meld themselves to. Such a shame Palestrina isn't alive today. I'm sure there is so much we could learn from him.
i am so happy when i see that Christians gather here, on these videos and praise the Lord Christ. Very happy. People, there hope, humanity is not lost. Remain in Christ no matter how hard the times will come. In the end the victory is ours. ALELUIA CHRISTUS DOMINUS DEUS
My goodness!! I remember performing this in a beautiful old gothic church back in college with about 7 other singers at a xmas concert. Wow! What memories; thanks for posting this. I am almost in tears.
giovanni pierluigi para mi es uno de los maestros destacatos del canto polifoníco que nos ha dejado un legado grandísimo del arte polifonico y su riqueza espiritual inspiración para la religiosidad.
This music sets the hair on the back of my neck to rise . . . these are alien yet human voices from another world, ours yet not ours, a separated world not in space but by time, but still here for ears that can hear. Wonderful.
1) The execution of this music, if nothing else, is an exercise in tremendous skill. 2) Just because music doesn't sound good to you, doesn't mean it didn't sound good in its own time, and can't to a properly-attuned ear. Most music was appreciated as at least "pleasantly audible" when it was written, and can be still.
To all the atheists obsessing over this being music and nothing to do with religion, here are the words for you O great mystery, and wonderful sacrament, that animals should see the new-born Lord, lying in a manger! Blessed is the Virgin whose womb was worthy to bear our Saviour, Jesus Christ. Alleluia!
The composer claimed to be a Roam Catholic and claimed to compose the music for purpose of the Roman Church. But the music is what it is, its sounds, its form, irrespective of the composer's religion or his religious design. Surely, many great European composers felt inspired by their religious experience. But, their religious inspiration did not alter the physical (acoustic) reality of their compositions. That physical reality bears its own effect irrespective of the inspiration of the person who composed it. An arrestingly beautiful natural landscape is arrestingly beautiful despite any religious belief that a God or gods created it.
@@caprolupo8321 All beauty is a reflection of the beauty, truth, and goodness that comes from the Creator. Everything that is beautiful is an attempt to emulate the Divine. This reality directly alters the acoustic reality which is why the less religious you are the harder is to emulate truth, beauty, and goodness. Denying this reality is to be blind to how artistry works.
This is what an "O magnum" should be, beautifully crafted, with a sense of awe, sung with intensity and wonder, and vigor where appropriate. I find it greatly preferable to many of the modern settings that border, if not cross, into the lugubrious.
Latin text: O magnum mysterium, et admirabile sacramentum, ut animalia viderent Dominum natum, jacentem in praesepio! Beata Virgo, cujus viscera meruerunt portare Dominum Christum. Alleluia. English translation: O great mystery, and wonderful sacrament, that animals should see the new-born Lord, lying in a manger! Blessed is the Virgin whose womb was worthy to bear Christ the Lord. Alleluia!
I'm sorry but your comments sounds like you're bragging not to mention it's asinine considering the piece was written to focus on the Creator of universe.
DonDraperism It's... it's "asinine" to get inspiration from this stuff in a non-religious context? Because it would be "asinine" to say that. Or to use the word "asinine" sincerely.
DonDraperism Nice run on sentence. Anyway, music shall be enjoyed by all in any way they so choose. Let us embrace the differences of each and every one of us. That is far more loving. Peace brother.
there is a concert band rendition of this song and I played it two years ago in my High School Wind Ensemble, you think the choral rendition is beautiful, wait till you hear the instrumental rendition
I found Cathar's in Catalunya. They love Jesus and peace. That's good enough for me! They have a tiny humble chapel in Catalunya. There is no shadow of the (Medici's/Borja's), in that place.
The mantra of rock music is "Emotion over Beauty" I think It self evident to all healthy minds that the works of Palestrina and Michelangelo are more beautiful than the works of Elvis or Picasso. Given the premise, the real question isn't which is more beautiful, but rather the purpose of art. If the purpose of art is to express the feelings of the artist, modern art may be superior. But, if the purpose of art is to be a medium of objective beauty, there can be no contest, the art of the Renaissance is far far superior.
you know, I never understood why this music was associated with church and all that jazz when I was younger. Today, I still try not to look at sacred music as "Christian" music. It is beautiful, and that is what moves me.
Just my two cents, but I was raised to be an atheist. They did this by simply NOT telling me anything, by not showing me anything, by keeping me ignorant. They thought they were letting me believe whatever I wanted, they figured they were giving mefreedom to think for mlf, but they denied me of knowledge, of any possibility of believing anything at all. That is not good either. Teach your children, but do not force them.
The debate is self-evident. How can the glories of Renaissance a capella music survive the onslaught of the drivel that abounds today? The answer is partly that we have become so inured to execrable crap that many have no ability to judge modern rubbish and see it for what it is. That Rensaissance music is still sung is a testament to its brilliance, just as we can know that the vast majority of what has been issued in the last 100 years will not see the light of day in 100 years... or at least it should not!
I certainly concur with your viewpoint here; oh, how I pray for the DAY that decency will return to the 'arts', especially this genre of music to soothe our hearts and souls!
Baroque Hearted Trying to seek mainstream music that is of this caliber would be pointless because of the audience and the free market place that it is marketed to the intellects are different the cultures and the styles are different This music does not survive as a testament to the times that it was written as much of it survives for the Understanding and analyzation and development of all different types of music also it is purely beautiful and I am a huge fan of all types of music From pop to hip-hop to atonal classical to jazz to fusion to instrumental and so on
Baroque Hearted all of you think in terms of art like bricks without any connection....today´s "musical" or art chaos is the natural response and evolution that all this renaissance "beauty"........to gregorian singers (IX) the palestrina counterpoint would sound shit to him............And thanks to the gregorian chant we got Palestrina, Bach , Mozart, Wagner, Bartok or the rollig stones indeed............it´s our occidental culture flowing on.....then never "the decency will return to the arts" . That music cause connmotion to the purist of the time....think about it and do not idealize the "old better times" -that never was better
cuerpoeperra There's no doubt I stand 'corrected' on this issue...we 'got to see the reality of variety of music genres in our times, whether we 'approve' of them or not...they all have their role in our society.
From the Light that burns in Far Behind, to the rise of Gloria at Red Rocks, my soul comes to rest in sublime wonder...were song carries the spirit to the Heart of Grace...until silence...in the Gift of God. Today is a good day; today He has loosened thy lips to give Witness to His Glory...to point to His Holy Word...for the love of His Children; For the Sake of His Sorrowful Passion. He is Born! MASS READINGS 8/26/2012 1: Josh 24:1-2,15-18 R: Ps 34:2-3,16-21 2: Eph 5:21-32 G: Jn 6:60-69
It is impossible to find a complete version of this motet anywhere. I had a long-lost vinyl album years ago with the whole thing. Why is this truncated? Can you steer me toward a complete recording? I would greatly appreciate it.
Great upload. Beautiful music. I 'liked' it but didn't like all the silence at the end. Hope your editing skills have improved in the past six year! lol ;)
Quando voglio entrare a respiro della mia anima mi faccio aiutare da Giovanni Pierluigi che aveva prima di me fatto il cammino di ricerca di Dio attraverso la sua musica.
O Magnum Mysterium sounds like an sacred song. There are both male and female voices and it sounds like they are singing in alto ans soprano. Not sure.
Convert or die. Not by my own hands, but from your own hands. If you dont believe me, believe the day of your death, believe the end of the world. Believe it if you want to be saved. Salvation of your soul from your ignorance. Take your time and read St Pavel!
That doesn't mean you were raised atheist, since they didn't force you to reject God. Your parents were letting you believe whatever you wanted by not forcing you to follow their beliefs. This was not keeping you ignorant, but giving you the option to choose for yourself. You were free to research or explore different religions, and I'm sure if you asked your parents questions they would have answered.
The idea that Christians love their enemies isn't a standard we're held to by atheists, it's a standard imposed by Jesus. He's fairly significant to the faith, he is.
Well then that contradicts what you were saying. I took your previous comment to mean they didn't force you to hate God and they didn't force you to believe in him either. If they raised you with a hatred of God, that's also wrong. I think that is something we can both agree on. But the reality is that far more children are being raised Christian than atheist.
This is disgraceful behavior. How can any of you justify arguing whether there is god or not on a video so beautiful as this? Can't you set down the sword and shield for a single second and close your eyes to let the beauty encapsulate you? The people you say cause all the problems~ turn that finger around back at yourselves. I'm here to hear this piece, not read a childish debate.
Indeed. The even the ones who hate Him. Just as Jesus Christ forgave those who crucified him, so should you forgive those who hate Him. Don't be so volatile.
Faith is something that has to be instilled in a child at a very young age. After the age of 7, it is too late. They have become rational by then. The door closes. You cannot choose to become a believer a later age. So when parents deny this opportunity to their children by deliberately keeping them unaware of God or even hating him, they are taking away their children's one and only chance to ever have faith. The other way around is no problem. You can lose your faith anytime later in life.
No, they don't hate God. They may hate religion, or some of the radicals that participate in that religion, but they do not hate God because they do not believe in him.
O? You didn't achieve immortality while still alive? So you're just going to disappear along with everything you've ever accomplished? Sounds like you just wasted your life along with the rest of human kind.
I'm an atheist, however I would like to say that I did a year long choral regiment with almost all Palestrina music. I learned to understand the deep meaning behind the translations, which alone are enough to bring me to tears. Let alone the lovely and powerful notes that the words meld themselves to. Such a shame Palestrina isn't alive today. I'm sure there is so much we could learn from him.
i am so happy when i see that Christians gather here, on these videos and praise the Lord Christ. Very happy. People, there hope, humanity is not lost. Remain in Christ no matter how hard the times will come. In the end the victory is ours. ALELUIA CHRISTUS DOMINUS DEUS
My goodness!! I remember performing this in a beautiful old gothic church back in college with about 7 other singers at a xmas concert. Wow! What memories; thanks for posting this. I am almost in tears.
Quel grand mystère ET merveilleux! Le mystère de la mort et de la résurrection de notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ.
I think Palestrina would be proud that 500 years later his music is still provoking debate.
Debate about what? I'm curious. Either way, it is still being studied by music scholars.
jodi183 you are right!!!
Because look at the comment section of this video. Christians vs atheists
This is because of the neomarxist dogma of atheism.
giovanni pierluigi para mi es uno de los maestros destacatos del canto polifoníco que nos ha dejado un legado grandísimo del arte polifonico y su riqueza espiritual inspiración para la religiosidad.
This music sets the hair on the back of my neck to rise . . . these are alien yet human voices from another world, ours yet not ours, a separated world not in space but by time, but still here for ears that can hear. Wonderful.
1) The execution of this music, if nothing else, is an exercise in tremendous skill.
2) Just because music doesn't sound good to you, doesn't mean it didn't sound good in its own time, and can't to a properly-attuned ear. Most music was appreciated as at least "pleasantly audible" when it was written, and can be still.
I'm thankful for this I probably wouldn't pass school if it was not for UA-cam!!!
wonderful interpretation and performance - thanks for posting
Beautiful and elegant music.
Ómnia instaurare in Cristo per Mariam. Laudetur Iesus Cristus per ómina sáecula saeculorum. Amen. Muito obrigado por haver compartido iste video.
To all the atheists obsessing over this being music and nothing to do with religion, here are the words for you
O great mystery,
and wonderful sacrament,
that animals should see the new-born Lord,
lying in a manger!
Blessed is the Virgin whose womb
was worthy to bear
our Saviour, Jesus Christ.
Alleluia!
There is a word for peoples like you :
Hypocrites ( And peace of shit )
Many Messiah stories existed back then: www.google.com/search?&q=did+jesus+exist%3F
The composer claimed to be a Roam Catholic and claimed to compose the music for purpose of the Roman Church. But the music is what it is, its sounds, its form, irrespective of the composer's religion or his religious design.
Surely, many great European composers felt inspired by their religious experience. But, their religious inspiration did not alter the physical (acoustic) reality of their compositions. That physical reality bears its own effect irrespective of the inspiration of the person who composed it.
An arrestingly beautiful natural landscape is arrestingly beautiful despite any religious belief that a God or gods created it.
@@caprolupo8321 All beauty is a reflection of the beauty, truth, and goodness that comes from the Creator. Everything that is beautiful is an attempt to emulate the Divine. This reality directly alters the acoustic reality which is why the less religious you are the harder is to emulate truth, beauty, and goodness. Denying this reality is to be blind to how artistry works.
@@PaulDo22 Nonsense.
This is what an "O magnum" should be, beautifully crafted, with a sense of awe, sung with intensity and wonder, and vigor where appropriate. I find it greatly preferable to many of the modern settings that border, if not cross, into the lugubrious.
Música grandiosa e eloquente.
Nos leva para as altas esferas do Universo
.
Beautiful...as always!
Dziękuję za piękno!
Bella musica. Rinfrescante e lontano dal simbolo rame risonante e tintinnanti di questo mondo.
Doing this song for choir, so beautiful
Latin text:
O magnum mysterium,
et admirabile sacramentum,
ut animalia viderent Dominum natum,
jacentem in praesepio!
Beata Virgo, cujus viscera
meruerunt portare
Dominum Christum.
Alleluia.
English translation:
O great mystery,
and wonderful sacrament,
that animals should see the new-born Lord,
lying in a manger!
Blessed is the Virgin whose womb
was worthy to bear
Christ the Lord.
Alleluia!
Music is universal, everyone can listen. But we need to remember that this music was made with a purpose, that is to praise God.
doesn't matter if you believe in God or not
the music is truly beautiful
Aye it matters
this music helps me write my novels, beautiful music
I'm sorry but your comments sounds like you're bragging not to mention it's asinine considering the piece was written to focus on the Creator of universe.
DonDraperism It's... it's "asinine" to get inspiration from this stuff in a non-religious context? Because it would be "asinine" to say that. Or to use the word "asinine" sincerely.
DonDraperism
Nice run on sentence. Anyway, music shall be enjoyed by all in any way they so choose. Let us embrace the differences of each and every one of us. That is far more loving. Peace brother.
@@DonDraperism I'm sorry but your comments sounds like you're dumb donkey. Haha
there is a concert band rendition of this song and I played it two years ago in my High School Wind Ensemble, you think the choral rendition is beautiful, wait till you hear the instrumental rendition
Link ?
I found Cathar's in Catalunya. They love Jesus and peace. That's good enough for me! They have a tiny humble chapel in Catalunya. There is no shadow of the (Medici's/Borja's), in that place.
Magnificient,beautifull!!!!!!
VUELA EL ALMA. HERMOSO!!!
Wenice.......... Palestrina......... Basilica san Marco........
Not just christians, but also atheists who appreciate good music. :)
Nobody has the "right" to force their opinions on someone else. A child deserves to think for himself/herself.
Beautiful.
Palestyna jest stolicą Izraela. Kocham Palestyne.
And yet I am the more polite one in our conversation.
The mantra of rock music is "Emotion over Beauty" I think It self evident to all healthy minds that the works of Palestrina and Michelangelo are more beautiful than the works of Elvis or Picasso. Given the premise, the real question isn't which is more beautiful, but rather the purpose of art. If the purpose of art is to express the feelings of the artist, modern art may be superior. But, if the purpose of art is to be a medium of objective beauty, there can be no contest, the art of the Renaissance is far far superior.
Amd I've never heard it put that way. Now I have something to think about...Thanks for the comment!
Excellent distinction AMD, objective beauty in this case being the Glory of God.
Excellent comment. God bless you.
This is one of the more thought-provoking comments I've found on UA-cam.
Is it mute from 6:26 to the end?
@GBWPawel Sameś jest Palestyna, stolicą Izraela jest Tel-Aviv s. Jerusalaim ;P
you know, I never understood why this music was associated with church and all that jazz when I was younger. Today, I still try not to look at sacred music as "Christian" music. It is beautiful, and that is what moves me.
Just my two cents, but I was raised to be an atheist. They did this by simply NOT telling me anything, by not showing me anything, by keeping me ignorant. They thought they were letting me believe whatever I wanted, they figured they were giving mefreedom to think for mlf, but they denied me of knowledge, of any possibility of believing anything at all. That is not good either. Teach your children, but do not force them.
muito lindo!
Beautifully said, and it is the Truth:)
Si tu es là pour l'examen d'HDI de l'IHECS sache que je suis avec toi ahaha
Apart from all the athiest and christian discussion, i must admit this music is truly beautiful,
The debate is self-evident. How can the glories of Renaissance a capella music survive the onslaught of the drivel that abounds today? The answer is partly that we have become so inured to execrable crap that many have no ability to judge modern rubbish and see it for what it is. That Rensaissance music is still sung is a testament to its brilliance, just as we can know that the vast majority of what has been issued in the last 100 years will not see the light of day in 100 years... or at least it should not!
I certainly concur with your viewpoint here; oh, how I pray for the DAY that decency will return to the 'arts', especially this genre of music to soothe our hearts and souls!
Baroque Hearted Trying to seek mainstream music that is of this caliber would be pointless because of the audience and the free market place that it is marketed to the intellects are different the cultures and the styles are different This music does not survive as a testament to the times that it was written as much of it survives for the Understanding and analyzation and development of all different types of music also it is purely beautiful and I am a huge fan of all types of music From pop to hip-hop to atonal classical to jazz to fusion to instrumental and so on
Baroque Hearted all of you think in terms of art like bricks without any connection....today´s "musical" or art chaos is the natural response and evolution that all this renaissance "beauty"........to gregorian singers (IX) the palestrina counterpoint would sound shit to him............And thanks to the gregorian chant we got Palestrina, Bach , Mozart, Wagner, Bartok or the rollig stones indeed............it´s our occidental culture flowing on.....then never "the decency will return to the arts" . That music cause connmotion to the purist of the time....think about it and do not idealize the "old better times" -that never was better
cuerpoeperra There's no doubt I stand 'corrected' on this issue...we 'got to see the reality of variety of music genres in our times, whether we 'approve' of them or not...they all have their role in our society.
RichardIIfan And how about pieces like Durufle's Tantum Ergo?
From the Light that burns in Far Behind, to the rise of Gloria at Red Rocks, my soul comes to rest in sublime wonder...were song carries the spirit to the Heart of Grace...until silence...in the Gift of God.
Today is a good day; today He has loosened thy lips to give Witness to His Glory...to point to His Holy Word...for the love of His Children; For the Sake of His Sorrowful Passion. He is Born!
MASS READINGS 8/26/2012
1: Josh 24:1-2,15-18
R: Ps 34:2-3,16-21
2: Eph 5:21-32
G: Jn 6:60-69
It is impossible to find a complete version of this motet anywhere. I had a long-lost vinyl album years ago with the whole thing. Why is this truncated? Can you steer me toward a complete recording? I would greatly appreciate it.
Hello I am Dog and I am from the future. Thank you.
love this rendition. i think i still like the rendition by Victoria more though.
Great upload. Beautiful music. I 'liked' it but didn't like all the silence at the end. Hope your editing skills have improved in the past six year! lol ;)
It is Christian because it was composed to tell about the love, the beauty and the glory of God.
That's OK. We still love you. ;)
Quo Vadis Domine?
I became a christian from agnostic atheism and before that islam.
+An Infidel Turk The Mother of Jesus lived not far from Ephesus. You are fortunate to have roots in such a blessed land!
More muslim should do that like you. God bless you.
❤
Jesus Christ bless You and all the Islam Brothers. Welcome to the House of Jesus!!!! Brother...
Amen brother!
Quando voglio entrare a respiro della mia anima mi faccio aiutare da Giovanni Pierluigi che aveva prima di me fatto il cammino di ricerca di Dio attraverso la sua musica.
É pra isso que eu pago internet!
If I was the person who posted this song here, I would definitely remove all of your comments, buddy-boy. Such unnecessary trollage.
Palestrina actually did tastefully use tritones... :P
no piano, no guitar, just their voices
i appologize and i agree
So true
O Magnum Mysterium by Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina is very slow and sound like as if multiple people are singing
It has 6 voices (SSAATB)
08/16/2015:
Thank You. In a world today, we are in great need to be still, stop, and hear God.
apointofdeparture.
diablus everywhere
O Magnum Mysterium sounds like an sacred song. There are both male and female voices and it sounds like they are singing in alto ans soprano. Not sure.
The piece ends at 6:25 why did you make it last 9:45?
Nu har i liket det. Hvad handler "O Magnum Mysterium" så om? Friske bud?
Det store mysterium er selve eksistensen, bevidstheden og hjertets kærlighed, der giver mening (til de to andre).
og så ..? Men musikken kender jeg. Den er uovertruffen.
Convert or die. Not by my own hands, but from your own hands. If you dont believe me, believe the day of your death, believe the end of the world. Believe it if you want to be saved. Salvation of your soul from your ignorance. Take your time and read St Pavel!
That's a contradiction in terms!
That doesn't mean you were raised atheist, since they didn't force you to reject God. Your parents were letting you believe whatever you wanted by not forcing you to follow their beliefs. This was not keeping you ignorant, but giving you the option to choose for yourself. You were free to research or explore different religions, and I'm sure if you asked your parents questions they would have answered.
Agreed!!
The idea that Christians love their enemies isn't a standard we're held to by atheists, it's a standard imposed by Jesus. He's fairly significant to the faith, he is.
I think he means that the internet population is overrepresented by atheists and agnostics compared to the "IRL" world.
Swag
Well then that contradicts what you were saying. I took your previous comment to mean they didn't force you to hate God and they didn't force you to believe in him either. If they raised you with a hatred of God, that's also wrong. I think that is something we can both agree on. But the reality is that far more children are being raised Christian than atheist.
I see what you did there...
This is disgraceful behavior. How can any of you justify arguing whether there is god or not on a video so beautiful as this? Can't you set down the sword and shield for a single second and close your eyes to let the beauty encapsulate you? The people you say cause all the problems~ turn that finger around back at yourselves. I'm here to hear this piece, not read a childish debate.
Indeed. The even the ones who hate Him. Just as Jesus Christ forgave those who crucified him, so should you forgive those who hate Him. Don't be so volatile.
A christian on the internet is like a tritone in a Palestrina composition.
Do not be afraid! Christ loves you.
Nope... For a start, the dominant 7th chord... need I say more?
Good christians respect other people and their beliefs. Stop being so rude! Btw I'm a christian if you wonder.
It starts at 0:06
And the award for most unnecessary comment goes to....
Faith is something that has to be instilled in a child at a very young age. After the age of 7, it is too late. They have become rational by then. The door closes.
You cannot choose to become a believer a later age. So when parents deny this opportunity to their children by deliberately keeping them unaware of God or even hating him, they are taking away their children's one and only chance to ever have faith.
The other way around is no problem. You can lose your faith anytime later in life.
i am a fighter for Christ.
forgiving on whom? of the ones who hate Him? Are you Blind?
Atheists appreciate "Quadradinho de 8". Joke.
Can you all just stop arguing and enjoy the fucking music?
It ends at 6:27
This Motet is for Christmass, not the the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Would Jesus approve of your behavior?
So you don't care about what Jesus said?
No, they don't hate God. They may hate religion, or some of the radicals that participate in that religion, but they do not hate God because they do not believe in him.
I don't think you are for real.
O? You didn't achieve immortality while still alive? So you're just going to disappear along with everything you've ever accomplished? Sounds like you just wasted your life along with the rest of human kind.
warlockmohl whose, not who's.
try torrents my friend
the poor sound quality does nothing for the choir at all.shame
Do you think Jesus would approve of such a behavior?
Nevermind me, do you care about what Jesus says?
Christianity is definitely not a minority here in the United States...
Did Jesus teach you to be rude to strangers or is that just you?
BROTHER, you are right. I am sorry for all my hate words. I did because Jesus is persecuted today.