@@lilnbigmanYea well even in the 21st century, people are STILL hateful! There's a reason why some people are closeted even to this day. Even though society has progressed and people are more accepting now doesn't mean that it's like this everywhere! Some places are still illegal to be gay so keep that in mind, sweetheart! 😏
The only problem is the writing - there’s not much of a build between the two, it seems more of a discovery of sexuality - which if that’s the point, good, but they do kind of kiss out of nowhere
Very good! In such a violent sport, where structural machismo is present, it is necessary to know how to "live together" without being "emotionally hurt". So, you have to be aware, know who you are dealing with and how to deal with it. Either way, it's a constant pressure to survive. The script, the sensitive direction and the complicity of the interpretations are very good. Liked it!
Those that are confused about the identity of the young man at the end of this little film need to watch it again. It’s clear the guy is Ray’s teammate, the one who was hazed along with Ray in the locker room getting beers poured on them. At the end of the film it is the teammate who is putting his gear into his own car prior to the two driving off together. It’s all about the details folks.
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My answer was regarding who the young man at the end of the film was. But since you pointed it out, we can assume that it was pee as the guy responsible says, “You just may like this,” followed by someone who says “…the kid’s got a hammer…” just before the dribble begins. Yes, I missed that. Happy?
@@richardrow3729Nothing will make a person like that happy. He’s living to be miserable, ignore his comments. THanks for yours… it did clear things up for me I wasn’t sure about.
I'm confused, how do the two guys know each other is interested in each other? Also why does the main character take a photo with the other guy when they meet up at the end?
You ask way too many questions..💀 it's a short movie. Use your imagination, sweetheart! Maybe they already knew each other from a previous time. It's a short so obviously you won't have all the details right there but use your brain, sweetie!!!!😩
Or we can answer nicely…they are teammates. hazed together early in the film and then Ray sits down next to him on the bench in the locker room at one point. 👍
well if you join something with initiation rites don´t be stupid and make a video from this to upload it on social media (FB twitter insta ...) - could be used as evidence in court hearing
@@charleycooley9390 Basically the main character is a star hockey player on a new high school team. His dad died and his mom and fellow teammates think he is straight. But he is seemingly posting pics of himself on apps. It really isn't explained how the two guys at the end know each other is interested in each other. It is implied it is from some app or potentially from getting close on the team, but that relationship is the most cryptic part of the film.
@@harryd5195 You may call it "cryptic", but one could also say "craptic", "incomplete" or "not well crafted"... elliptic story stelling is not about that. When people really are missing something that leads to not understanding it, then the movie misses a great deal of clarity.
I guess you're the kind to have exposition spoon-fed to you every few seconds to make sense of anything. The two guys have a shared experience with being hazed in the hockey team. They are both substitutes (because they are new players). They spend time with each other because of that shared experience and grow to know each other better. The main character grows skilled at what he does best and makes the winning play at an important game and becomes the star/popular. And he also gets the guy (you would watch a straight version where the guy gets the girl after becoming the star at his school team and you wouldn't bat an eye, but here you seem to be lost like a lamb?). After they kiss they drive off together to get something to eat and celebrate the win. There.
what on earth was the point of this? any excuse to make another dark, depressing, angsty gay short film? as long as it has two attractive guys kissing, the gays will love it
As a closeted hockey player, this is the best thing i've ever watched.
It gets better, it really does. 💕💕
How does such a big boy with big muscles like you find a place in a closet?😂
You are who you are own it stand up for who you are. Never be ashamed it's the 21 century. People fought died for your freedom.
@@lilnbigmanYea well even in the 21st century, people are STILL hateful! There's a reason why some people are closeted even to this day. Even though society has progressed and people are more accepting now doesn't mean that it's like this everywhere! Some places are still illegal to be gay so keep that in mind, sweetheart! 😏
Happy for ya, i can conform the hockey part, as your pfp checks out.
The acting really separates this from some other gay shorts on this app - just phenomenal performances and filmography
The only problem is the writing - there’s not much of a build between the two, it seems more of a discovery of sexuality - which if that’s the point, good, but they do kind of kiss out of nowhere
@@lukeknopke2574They both had the Grindr gay hookup app on their phones and saw each others profiles.
Very good! In such a violent sport, where structural machismo is present, it is necessary to know how to "live together" without being "emotionally hurt". So, you have to be aware, know who you are dealing with and how to deal with it. Either way, it's a constant pressure to survive. The script, the sensitive direction and the complicity of the interpretations are very good. Liked it!
When a short film that was getting good, was too short!!! I want more!!!
Ja und es gibt gar kein Thema.
Gay heißt für mich: romantische Szenen, Händchen halten am Strand, tiefe Blicke.
Und bitte- alles ohne ! Frauen.
Those that are confused about the identity of the young man at the end of this little film need to watch it again. It’s clear the guy is Ray’s teammate, the one who was hazed along with Ray in the locker room getting beers poured on them. At the end of the film it is the teammate who is putting his gear into his own car prior to the two driving off together. It’s all about the details folks.
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details...like the fact that it wasn't beer being poured on them...?
My answer was regarding who the young man at the end of the film was. But since you pointed it out, we can assume that it was pee as the guy responsible says, “You just may like this,” followed by someone who says “…the kid’s got a hammer…” just before the dribble begins. Yes, I missed that. Happy?
So, who got raped? Was it Ray or his 'teammate'?
@@richardrow3729Nothing will make a person like that happy. He’s living to be miserable, ignore his comments. THanks for yours… it did clear things up for me I wasn’t sure about.
Very good. Extremely real to life, and the physical connection at the end is beautifully understated
Saw this in last year’s Seattle Film Festival….liked it then. Love it even more now, the second time around. Jason Karman does great stuff.
Very good and filmed in British Columbia, Canada
Nice to see him smile at the end
Liked it so much, especially the ending!
How has this not blown up
a little cryptic for the masses
Actual title in credits is: "Lions in waiting"
When I first read it I saw Loins ::-)
Thank you for sharing a cool movie.😊
I'm confused, how do the two guys know each other is interested in each other? Also why does the main character take a photo with the other guy when they meet up at the end?
sameeeeee
You ask way too many questions..💀 it's a short movie. Use your imagination, sweetheart! Maybe they already knew each other from a previous time. It's a short so obviously you won't have all the details right there but use your brain, sweetie!!!!😩
Or we can answer nicely…they are teammates. hazed together early in the film and then Ray sits down next to him on the bench in the locker room at one point. 👍
15:13 Think this is the answer.
This is the most beautiful and gentle rebuke I have seen. @@gregweaver4341
Would support a more fleshed out feature film of this 👍👍
Sweet!
Why can’t people just accept gays and lesbians? 😠🏳️🌈👍🏻
But overall cute 🙂
@@Dnawolf I can’t understand that either I am gay my self it really shouldn’t matter who accepts who as long as you accept your self my name is Chetan
IDK the cryptic dialogue has me perplexed. 🤔
the trans flag in the change room lol 🏳️⚧️
good short but why was the Mom giving him cupcakes--two boxes right THEN?
well if you join something with initiation rites don´t be stupid and make a video from this to upload it on social media (FB twitter insta ...) - could be used as evidence in court hearing
Ice hockey is just so unnecessarily brutal. Barely rates as "sport"
Hockey's cool, I think its for the spectators....Not like boxing though!! Blahh!!
I’m confused
Could someone please explain what is going on I’m very confused
@@charleycooley9390 Basically the main character is a star hockey player on a new high school team. His dad died and his mom and fellow teammates think he is straight. But he is seemingly posting pics of himself on apps. It really isn't explained how the two guys at the end know each other is interested in each other. It is implied it is from some app or potentially from getting close on the team, but that relationship is the most cryptic part of the film.
@@harryd5195 thanks 🙏
@@harryd5195 You may call it "cryptic", but one could also say "craptic", "incomplete" or "not well crafted"... elliptic story stelling is not about that. When people really are missing something that leads to not understanding it, then the movie misses a great deal of clarity.
It shows he's pushed thru and accepted himself. Something that many ppl could learn from - straight, gay, bi etc
Ummm.... What?
LOL FR
So beautiful. I loved it.
Sorry, I didn't get it. Nothing of consequence happened in this film. High school boys played hockey for 16 minutes of a 17 minute long film
Yes16 minutes wasted. Terrible film
I guess you're the kind to have exposition spoon-fed to you every few seconds to make sense of anything.
The two guys have a shared experience with being hazed in the hockey team. They are both substitutes (because they are new players). They spend time with each other because of that shared experience and grow to know each other better. The main character grows skilled at what he does best and makes the winning play at an important game and becomes the star/popular. And he also gets the guy (you would watch a straight version where the guy gets the girl after becoming the star at his school team and you wouldn't bat an eye, but here you seem to be lost like a lamb?). After they kiss they drive off together to get something to eat and celebrate the win.
There.
It's a short film. Neither a 3 hour long Avengers movie, nor an episode of a Netflix show.
what on earth was the point of this? any excuse to make another dark, depressing, angsty gay short film? as long as it has two attractive guys kissing, the gays will love it
Not this one. Total waste of time.
Sorry, too North American for me. Too many cave men.
Wow what a great ending🫶🏻
Underwhelming
I liked it too! :-)