What I gave up to join the Twelve Tribes cult/community and what I left with!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Joining the Twelve Tribes is a huge decision. I was young and naiiev when I joined and ended up staying for 8 years! After a marriage and two kids later, along with a thorough brainwashing, I was sent out back into the world. In this video I explain specific things I gave up, as well as going into details about what I kept when I left.
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These cults are so cruel, they spiritually abuse and exploit people without conscience. Glad you are free.
I was fortunate not to get married in community. Leaving would of been a lot messier.
Yes. Then when you start having children (people have a lot of children there) it gets even more intense. Soooo much pressure. Count your lucky 🌟 stars!
Thank you for sharing your story. I fell into something like a cult many years ago, and I'm still processing.
Yes. So many groups have some degree of control. Greater society is full of it too. Be gentle on yourself and give yourself time. Being willing to heal/forgive/trust are good things, you can always get to a place of being willing for whatever feels scary. Good luck! All the best to you ☺️
@@jillybeenz8699 and to you and yours ❤️
I can relate to this so much about making decisions after mentally leaving 20 years of really strict traditional Catholic thinking ❤
There's a member who often caters us at the cafe... He has the most beautiful energy. If I could scoop him up I would.
I often wonder if the people within the community want to be there or not. Investing in something so life changing would be so hard to leave - and if you were born in the tribe...it would be close to impossible. Just like leaving any abusive or familial situation would be.
I hope he is treated right and treats the women and children of the tribe right.
I learned that suggestion while committed to a psychiatric institution in my teens and was locked in and couldn't get out so I was so stressed I just lost myself and resigned to standing in lines for pills ,lines for food. I mean we had to stand in line for them to get our vital signs. Every hour at night the nurse would shine a bright 🌞 flashlight in my eyes to see if I was sleeping but that would wake me up. I wasn't a fun place and I had to get a lawyer to get out.
And you did! Good for you. Gotta fight for our rights 🤜🤛
Hi Jilly, thanks for this video ---- close friends of mine joined over 20 yrs ago and then my wife went in (all of them are still in) --- and for a while I was in touch with ex-members who tell a similar story to yours --- it seems like nothing changes with this group --- it is a disfunctional family --- the leadership being the most disfunctional. The people inside become emotionally co-dependent making it very hard to leave plus not having resources to start again on the outside, as you mentioned --- then when you leave, there is the time of unwinding psychologically from all the stuff they taught you. You might do video on all their crazy beliefs and practices. Like using only one or two pieces of toilet paper. Yoneq was big on that for awhile. It sounds like you are coming out the other side. Thanks for warning others.
Totally codependent. They put on a pretty good face, but once you're in there there's a lot going on! There are definitely so many practices they demand, very few with understanding besides "our Father's will". Good 💡 idea.
Glad to be out, good luck amigo!
Best of luck to you and your family.🌸🌾
I appreciate that👍😊
Your videos have been so interesting . You seem like you have no fear now . I would love to know how you got from there to here. This isn't the same but my husband died and I feel like I don't know how to do any real life skills. It's constant panic still and it's been 3 years. I really like how you express yourself . I honestly never really minded letting him be the one to make desicions etc . I'm kind of a laid back go with the flow type anyway. I really do believe in personal energy I just feel paused I guess . Like my whole existence was waiting for him to come home. But there's so much more for me. I know . Sorry if this all doesn't make sense . But I think that would be a great video of maybe getting stronger mentally
I appreciate you 😘
It makes total sense. It's never easy to be without when you've been so used to being with. But, it can be a wonderful opportunity to find yourself and create the story you have deep within your ❤️.
Thanks for the suggestion 😊. I'm hoping to take my vid niche in that direction 👍
Stay posted and positive! All the best to you ☺️
Luckily I never fully joined. But I am excommunicated now. Suprisingly my Imma and I still talk through email only and I know she not suppose to but she does sometimes multiple times a day.
That's great y'all can stay in touch however much! Yes, you're lucky. Were you a child in the group?
"If I give up all my possessions to feed the poor......but have not love (God), it profits me nothing."
If God has one's entire heart, He has all of him or her. He calls His people to be good stewards of all that He has entrusted to them, which includes their own personal bodies.
Not understanding this from the Scriptures leaves one an easy target for groups that think that to surrender all is mostly external, but God looks on one's heart.
Hi Jilly. I frequently visit 12 tribes here in BC Canada. I know a lot of what you talk about. Out of curiosity, what was your Hebrew name there? What were your children’s names, and did you change them after leaving? Did you take your old name back? Been wondering this from watching your videos
I had a few names in Hebrew! First Qoshet Parahat, then Elah, then Talitha Kumi, and now? I am Jillian, always have been. Kinda a funny thing to change names in the middle of your life that someone else picks out for ya! And makes it hard to find people who have left!
My kids chose to change their names soon after we left.
@@jillybeenz8699 That's funny, I recently came to know that people get a new name when their situation in the group changes. Making it even more difficult to remember for "outsiders"... Talita Kum? Hah, this one I know!! "Girl, get up" :-)
I have a suggestion for you that's helped me to get motivated in a positive way. Get in front of the mirror and say to your self " I am powerful I am capable I am valuable and I am wonderful!!!. You're going to be okay,your a smart cookie.
Mirror work! Totally! Looking at yourself and loving you is so important! There are no mirrors in the TT...
@@jillybeenz8699 are you serious about no mirrors? Not even in the bathroom?
@@jillybeenz8699i’m watching your videos and reading your comments and it’s so informative thank you for sharing. the no mirror thing has really struck me.. the perfect way to disconnect people from
their self is by not even allowing them to see themself! wow
@@lasantuzza777 Glad to help! I'm feeling the urge to make more videos, not specifically about the TT, but how to manage life after. Thanks for watching ☺️
There is a Yellow Deli about 3 hours south east of me in Oneonta,NY.
Ah yes. I've never been to that one! There are cafes and delis all over the place 😁! Ever been?
Thanks for sharing in such an honest and vulnerable way. You don't talk much about a personal faith in Christ. Is that something that you ever felt that you had? To me, this is the most important thing. This is not a criticism of you, but you seem to speak of God in an impersonal way and knowing and loving Jesus is so much more than that. In fact, it may have been Him who called you out and He waits for you. Thanks and blessings.
appreciate your videos
I'm 😊 glad. Thank you!
in the real world if you cant take care of yourself its impossible to take care of others. the first step in being selfless to others is taking care of yourself
I totally agree. You can't give anyone value if you don't have it yourself. Revolution starts within our own hearts. Only then can we share our light with others. All the best 🙏🏽
Are you all natural or do you shave 🪒??? And great video !!
Oh man. personal information not shared from me on public forums 😊
At least not that personal 😜
Thanks 🙏🏽
I have watched a few of your videos so far. I really enjoy the insight. My 30 year old son joined when he was 20. A wife was selected for him and has a daughter now. Curious to know if you are walking with the Lord now or did TT experience turn you away from God?
Both really. Thanks for your question 🙏🏽
It caused me to really question how I hear from Yh. Going through the process of trusting that I alone can hear from the Almighty and not have others tell me. There's a lot to it, but the faith is living strong 🙏🏽
@@jillybeenz8699 Praise God!!
Are you familiar with the Bruderhauf?
ooooh i am not☺️
@@jillybeenz8699 check them out. A lot of similarities.
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I've heard of them. I haven't heard anything good about them.
Just subscribed.
I study all kinds of things to be able to tell people about Jesus.
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When did you come to the conclusion you were in a cult?
When I was told to leave I was still in the mind set of wanting to stay in the group. So it took me a couple of years to really understand it was a cult. It really clicked when I started to watch documentaries about other cults. Many of the same red flags!
Food stamps? The elders would say that only rebellious people use food stamps!!
Well shoot! Didn't have much of a choice the way they left me😂!
@@jillybeenz8699 I saw some dark things there that really troubled my conscience. Things that I wouldn't even mention here. The good things that I take from there is a health-focused lifestyle and a sense of equal allotment and sharing, but a few of the disgusting practices and theology is just too far off for me.
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"a sense of equal allotment and sharing..."
the allotments aren't equal...food/clothin'/freedoms/tech/jobs/decisions
@@heathereileenoquin That's not even a reason why I left. Children are being "groomed". There is child molestation going on in that cult. Right in the main base. 2 perverts are hiding there. They cleared the name of one of the sickos in court. Doesn't matter anyway, none of them go by their real names, and they take away everyone's access to Internet, so you wouldn't be able to investigate these creeps while you're living there.
Not you mentioning vaccines 💔
I have visited several different locations of the 12 Tribes visiting my best friend from college who joined. There are so many things that I love about it and several that I don’t. But it’s really neat to seem community living like that
Yes. Community was the draw for me for suuuure. But once you're in that's it. Obey all without questions. ⚠️red flag ⚠️
There's a lot of community living out there without having to give up every. single. thing.
What the hell is there to love about it!?!?
How desperate for exception is a person that would give away your car money mind body soul family to be part of something.
You'd be surprised. People can be so motivated by acceptance from others. It's not that simple tho, nor that cut and dry. I mean, ultimately it is, but it is frosted with all sorts of promises and good feelings. Each person goes in with their own hopes and baggage. No judgement, ya know? You can be grateful you have a strong core! Not everyone does😊
They make good sandwiches. 😂
That is what Yahshua asks his disciples to do. To me is consistent with scriptures and with Yashua's teachings. I don't belong to this selfish world. Your video help me to desire more to be with them. I can undestand why you see things that way.
yes. to each his own. i have no agenda but to reveal my experience and own personal perspective. All the best to you ☺️
Ye'shua said to give it all to HIM not men ,She said she had to cut off from Dad & Mom, doesn't that go against the commandment of Honer thy Father & Mother.
So true. They justify that in saying if your parents don't support your decision to leave everything and follow, then you have to cut them off. Which I did. I'm grateful to have restored my relationship with my parents since I left, but there was damage done that will never be able to be fully rectified 😔
@@jillybeenz8699 I am glad you reconciled with your Family & remember all things happen for good to those who love YAH & are called according to HiS purposes ; although we don't understand why bad things happen the reasons will be revealed by The Master when He comes back for His bride . HALLELU'YAH
Thank you for sharing your story as it will help those who are seeking how to follow ABA YAHAWAH . I myself was considering joining the one in Ashville NC .Their slick deception which allures is the fact that it is true we are not to hold on to worldly possessions but I believe it's a very personal thing between you & The Father it shouldn't be mandated or forced by others. As I was watching clips of defectors last night the thing that disturbed me the most was their way of disciplining and over working Children , I do believe in discipline yet it seemed over the top to spank 6 month year olds & using rods , someone left some of the founders quotes on discipline & they were down right evil , one said you must draw blood in a certain scenario. Did you ever witness child abuse there "?"