Altis Sigma all the way! 98V, Moto wheels, Moto brakes, DOT4 brake fluid. Looks much better. Will smoke others in class according to Surronster vid. I think the 98 Volts is the biggest decider though. Ive been selling bikes to make room for my 2 Altis Sigmas on order!
@@bitcornface8306 For sure where I'm leaning, I'm doing a video going through each spec side to side and on paper the SR is better but I think the Ulta is better with the higher voltage and less amps to achieve above 20KW as well as I'm seeing a lot of good things about a hairpin motor! That's awesome I appreciate the feedback helps make me feel comfortable that I'm leaning the right way
Hairpin refers to the stators construction. IPM and Surface magnets refer to the rotor. Hairpins enable higher density of windings and higher current draws.
@@DescartesRenegade Right on Appreciate that, actually went down the rabbit hole and have kind of learned that so basically it is an IPM motor and just has the more square efficient copper rather than traditional windings for my understanding? Looking to be a lot of good things from it as well as a lot of other EV manufacturer companies using it
@Razorcrew_Cole hairpin windings have been around for a while, just wasn't financially efficient enough to product as demand/competition for higher performance motors wasn't there yet.
@DescartesRenegade yep totally makes sense the more I'm seeing on them I think this is going to be a good thing! As long as they have it dialed in good it seems like hairpin is the move just a bigger investment initially like you're saying! I'm excited to see
@@throstheelementyottaannum3844 Right on it's interesting point I might have to try to put those side by side after I'm done with the video I'm doing now trying to compare these two better
Just found your channel! Amazing content, I love your relaxed personality. As you said, this year has been great for emotos. For the first time, we get rocketships like sigma and e-ride pro sr that don't need upgrades. P.S. I'm the owner of the Ventus One. The only thing I will upgrade is the brakes (that bike missed the dot4 out-of-the-box trend). Thanks again.
@@TechLineHD dude I appreciate that, and I appreciate the chill feeling comment because sometimes I'm not sure if I need to be at everyone's high energy to get followers and views by I want to keep it real. I think that's an amazing bike also and they did just miss by not having those breaks on but still for what you get is a great option
@ thanks again man! Yeah keep it real, keep it chill! Btw, where are from? I’m from part of the EU where we have “winter is coming” feeling right now. We will have the same amount of snow pretty soon!
Perfect vid i was torn between the two as well im tryna wait for more reviews for the both of them cause im defiantly going with for 1 or the other. And this will be my first bike
@@skillz2tthemaxx157 holy crap going to be a powerful first bike! I'm working on a more in depth review video to try to get out diving into the specs side by side but time will tell with a review videos for sure
😂i'm in the same situation as well i will wait for the reviews then get whichever is best and it will be a massive upgrade from my 80lb AWD 2,000W e bike
@5angel778 hell ya No matter what it's going to be an awesome upgrade lol I think I'm leaning towards the Altis Right now for a few reason I'm about to release a almost two in depth video
I'll wait to a v2 of both, the E Ride should've worked on issues first with their 2.0, & making it more stout, especially with that much power, it might be fine for just riding in the street, but I get these to usually only ride on the roads to get to the best, nearest trails or jumps. 😆
@@ReVolt_e-Vlogs I feel that, I definitely don't have the patience to wait for any v2s at this point but I agree I kind of am weary of eride because I think they're just trying to move as fast as possible. Like Altis let people test the bike as they knew they were getting close and let people know. You ride just dumped it out like hey we're dropping this now
Both amazing bikes . I sold my Eride pro ss which was amazing to pull the trigger on the sigma not because of the speed but because better brakes better seat better motor just the best option in my style of riding and what I was looking for and I also love that it’s heavier compatible to the average dirtbike weight
Where’s part 2 and no one has made reviews on the sr apart from surronster please do a proper full review on looks and details I want to get one my self I’m from the UK Birmingham but they only got them on American site not uk site
@@Alex-y9i9s dude I got you Believe it or not I've been editing it for like most the week when I have time when I get off work at night, I am really trying to put it all side by side hundred percent! I also reached out to both companies and was giving them a few days to get back to me to fill in some of the blanks and have not heard anything 🙄
Just bought my Eride SR can’t wait till it gets here, I think it’s better in my opinion, it beat surronsters built surron ebike by so much and his ebike beat the altis soooo, I also think Eride knows what they are doing, they have history. But both good bikes and I’m sure in another month there will be another nice one. I was going to wait for the talaria dragon but I can’t wait any longer I need another bike😂
@@TacticalTrendsLV No doubt about that for sure E ride is a great company! I know we've been waiting waiting to see it drop and still nothing right lol hopefully they're just making sure it's going to be awesome
It's the Altis for me, with all the bikes I've built I always used highest voltage I could. There's just much more benefits. My 96v b2 and 96v qs138v3 bike all run perfect IMO. And so much more power compared to when I ran them at 72v
@@pev_bbq awesome comment! I agree, I think a lot of people that are not from the DIY scene and do not fully understand how it works are swayed by seeing more KW but I think I'm going to trust the altis more to
@Razorcrew_Cole yeah I notice that too. I've learned so much from starting with the diy bikes than buying turnkey. The Altis will be my first turnkey bike since everything prior never really wowed me and always lacked in certain components.
@euc_bbq haha I'm in the same boat dude! This is the first bike that I was like wow I can buy that and not feel like I got completely ripped for power out the box lol After doing a lot of research on the hairpin if they did it correctly it should be pretty beneficial as well looks like
@@edwinbarahona8266 yeah I think both of these bikes are targeted to the dirt with the tires they come with and power, but either way it will be fun on the street and yeah probably will be a little More inconspicuous!
I'm getting one of each after I sell my eride 2.0 & surron. So ill have a pretty good idea on which one is best and what for! Can't wait to rip right out of the box!
@@Jay-qq7kp I'm like incredibly jealous That's what I would like to do but just not realistic and I'm too attached to my razors to sell anymore haha congrats I can't wait for you to compare them would love to know what you think
hi pal love your channel btw just wondering have u got a tune for a fardriver on my mototec im running 72v amorge battery and electro and co motor i have tunned it but it doesnt seem to be that fast thanks
@@rockydotson31 I'm working on a video putting it all side to side I'll try to get out, I don't know if it helps my decision I like the Altus more but as I'm doing all of this the SR may look better on paper. But doing some research on the hairpin motors and everything to
Its no contest for me. The only reason i didnt buy the eride is that its insanely loud. The altis is the first one thats completely silent plus no belt but gearbox, plus the hairpin motor is the type of motors used by tesla. Only negative is more weight but that also translates into a much stronger frame. I would still wait till consuler reviews are out and all the small eventual problems are solved as did the pro ss 2.0.
@@gargameel007 I'm with you I agree I think too, I don't know if I trust the belt with that much KW. And I'm stoked about the hairpin looks like a lot of companies using the hairpin Porsche, BMW, GM and more! Could be game changing A lot of benefits to that motor too! I do like e-ride but yep I think that scares me that they are moving so fast and just dump this bike out to compete cuz they want the sales instead of making sure everything's perfect I feel like but time will tell for sure! Thanks for the comment
Also i line higher Voltage more efficient al things being equal. I Pro foot XR the Connectivity to phone and app but still uses inferior belt drive instead gearbox like this thing similar to talaria . I was going order altis but waiting just tad longer b4 i buy it wish it had regen lever and app management so you change settings on phone instead bike screen only. Plus gps really hoping someone adds that to altis or I'll buy one upgrade controller when ebmx comes out with one for 100v and ya add regen lever to external input
@@dreknows yeah that's what I was thinking with the higher voltage and a hairpin motor! Bummed about no region whatever also such a cool advantage of electric to utilize. You're saying that the Altis does not have the settings on the phone like there's no Bluetooth app? I was wondering that's definitely dumb
@@laws9838 Like as in your like first bike first bike ever? Can I ask exactly what kind of riding 75% of the time do you think you'll be doing? The 3.0 is gunna be an ultimate option the SR is going to be a dangerous amount of power for pretty experienced riders to fully take advantage of but you can always not use all the power and grow into it if you're a safe person Just because the price difference isn't that much to save the extra for more.
@Razorcrew_Cole I've had 1000cc sport bikes. Will be my first dirt bike. I will ride 60 to 70 Street/side grass and gravel. Figure since you can dial power can start.slow but always turn up later unlike 3.0. Thanks
@@laws9838 yeah man I said yes are can go wrong with if that's what you're looking at! I went Altis For a few reasons but they're born can be such awesome platforms and yes you can kind of work yourself into it especially with having to tuning capabilities out of the box
I’m having a hard time deciding if it’s worth it to save up $5000+ or I can get a used 250- 450 gas dirt bike for $2500. I’m personally mostly looking for the power and speed but I’d rather have eletric due to All the points brought up in the video.
@@ScoobyDo0. It depends on what you're really trying to do with it. I'm doing a video going through these two bikes better but I honestly just sold my 450R and Grom cuz I'm so over the gas bikes now personally. They are very expensive but for me it will be more usable as I can get to some places in town and get away with it I think.
The altis is better equipped for fast riding from my memory they go about 60-65 each the altis comes slightly better equipped for off road with a larger battery if im correct i would go for the altis but the e ride isn't a bad option either (also correct me if im wrong i just got into this stuff)
Haha, the opening statement. I definitely don’t have 6k, I’m building my bike so I can get something fast enough for about a third of that 6k. That being said, I would go with the ERide, I think they’ve been doing a good job and Altus has no experience before this. Both look fun as hell though.
@@johnnyc.3261 I know it's tough with them being new but you got to remember eride was brand new and everyone said the same exact thing last year. Definitely a really hard choice
@@kyleroberts9359 It doesn't look like a bad bike for sure, but at 7.5 KW I've ran my razors at 9 KW for 5 years so I just don't think that's enough power for me also 47 mph I'm already doing 60mph and up on razors so I just am looking for something that is beating that. My RSF's running over 12KW The Razor and building should run about 18 kW. But definitely looks like a good bike I'm glad zero is getting in the game
@Razorcrew_Cole you missed the info on RevRides original announcement of the Altis on UA-cam. Go back and watch their video. He talks about its gear box ,that will need to be maintained every 5 years. He is eluding to oil changes.
@edgurash834 Right on I appreciate that information dude yep I must have missed it!! 🤦 Thanks I'm going to put that in this video I'm doing now as a slight con I guess. What do we trust more the belt or the gearbox I mean that's a lot of power for a belt
Have you got it yet because I really want to get the SR but I live in the uk and the uk site doesn’t sell it on their site yet but only person who has actually done a review is surronster
altis is good for dirt tracks mostly and eride is good for both dirt and road as well as not catching the wrong eyes on the road, altis is also a kinda new company so theres no telling how great the customer service will be and the community is small so it might not get alot of 3rd part support or help fixing, the eride company isnt so new and has amazing customer support and the community is large and still growing fast and is already getting tons of 3rd party support as well as a very large community that is always willing to help others fix their bikes if they even need to, eride has shown they are durable and reliable while altis still has to prove their worth, so id suggest eride if u can but if u have the time to wait on ur decision then see which ones gets on top but i dont think eride is losing their crown anytime soon and i will be getting the SR as soon as possible.
@@cmr708 For sure I definitely feel that and that's why I haven't ordered it yet or I would have just pulled the trigger! I really like the looks of it and I have bikes for around town that don't draw attention I need something for trails in the mountains so either one is going to be a great option it's just a tough choice
@@Razorcrew_Cole if u don’t want too many looks but to go around town and go on trails I’d say get the eride just cause it’s height and weight cause dirt tracks are good for short bikes like the altis but eride would be good for trails
@cmr708 yeah I mean I have like eight fully modded razors and I'll buy a B2 next as well so I'm not too concerned about taking it around town I don't think I really will unless it's a big group rides in the cities. I personally am in love with the look too. It's more replacing my 450 that I don't ride ever but I don't want the looks to sway me wrong 😆
@@Razorcrew_Cole yea I love the look as well and I plan on doing anything I can when I get mine if I even can my car don’t even work rn but I still have hope cause I wanna feel alive like when I was a kid doing motocross so cross ur fingers I can save enough money to buy the SR cause it’ll probably replace my car XD
@cmr708 haha that's awesome but I mean realistically at 70 mph we are starting to see these things be legitimately a way of transportation! If I lived somewhere it was warm all year I would definitely consider it
Altos sigma cause it looks better and I think it’s better built quality overall I’ve also seen many complaints about all erides and that there cheaply mad
I love the sr. Its a great street bike and off roader. It wont attract allot of attention as it is the 125 cc dirtbike size . The altis will always be the better off roader however surronsters found it quite heavy and hard to wheelie . I think for pure off road the altis smokes eride however the versatitility of the eride wins for me
@@Surronsterlover-69 I agree, it's a tough decision because I definitely want wheelies but at the same time I raise your lays 125 lb so when you look at the difference 200 shouldn't feel terrible. But it's a hard choice
@@campfirestories744 going through a really detailed video looking at the bikes on paper comparison in depth. I'll try to get it out in a few days just kind of helping me decide so I'll share it with everyone else too
@@JohnnyCast24 yeah on paper it is better I'm doing a full video but if you understand how the stuff works I think the Altis is honestly better. When you do the math it's only a 2AH difference and the hairpin motor is more efficient. But yes it's new in this industry so we'll see. I think I'm leaning Altis but I want to see side by side race lol. If you rode the 2.0 you know it looks and is just a little cheap feeling makes a lot of creaky sounds. I'm hoping the altis is overall just kind of a stronger platform. If the erine wants to be a little faster I am not that concerned about 3 kW difference
@@JohnnyCast24 And like I talked about in this video I'm going to put out, to get 25 kW out of 72 volts is going to take like 300 line amps which is going to drain power much faster than the altis I wouldn't be surprised if the ERide does worse in range honestly
Check the websites. Altis will be faster. But the SR will be quicker off the line. Altis will go 70-75mph top speed whereas the SR will only do 62 mph top speed. It is right their websites. Check it out for yourself.
@edgurash834 yeah like I said the e-ride Pro is going to be faster slightly but they're just dumping a lot of amps out. And they're actually claiming 70 mph now on eride website which is a little sus
@@heathhollenshead5192 hahahaha A lot of people saying the SR they are picking over it but I think I'm definitely leaning Altis. I appreciate the comment cuz I am genuinely curious on everyone's thoughts
@@tipitktm2549 so the thing is if you do the math to actually compare that. It would compare to being 2AH less is all and with a hairpin motor being about 20-30% more efficient you're probably going to see actually that bike performing better as well as it's going to be dumping less amps with higher voltage so you're going to see that u ride battery drain faster cuz it's going to be dumping probably around 300 peak like amps.
@@tipitktm2549 I know it sounds crazy when you look at the big difference in AH but it's actually just simple math. As well as the basic IPM motor just will not be as efficient as the hairpin Ipm I think. Both amazing bikes no matter what
@tipitktm2549 No doubt, hairpin is being used by a lot of big manufacturers in the EV scene but if you're off just a little bit you can have big issues for sure so if they don't have all their stuff in line that could be an issue. They have a one-year warranty so if you have issues with a hairpin I think it's going to be right away otherwise if it's built precisely should be good for a long long time
Altis Sigma all the way! 98V, Moto wheels, Moto brakes, DOT4 brake fluid. Looks much better. Will smoke others in class according to Surronster vid. I think the 98 Volts is the biggest decider though. Ive been selling bikes to make room for my 2 Altis Sigmas on order!
@@bitcornface8306 For sure where I'm leaning, I'm doing a video going through each spec side to side and on paper the SR is better but I think the Ulta is better with the higher voltage and less amps to achieve above 20KW as well as I'm seeing a lot of good things about a hairpin motor! That's awesome I appreciate the feedback helps make me feel comfortable that I'm leaning the right way
Damn bro, you got 2 on order. Living the good life.
I like that the dot 4 brake fluid are on the stat list😂
Hairpin refers to the stators construction. IPM and Surface magnets refer to the rotor. Hairpins enable higher density of windings and higher current draws.
@@DescartesRenegade Right on Appreciate that, actually went down the rabbit hole and have kind of learned that so basically it is an IPM motor and just has the more square efficient copper rather than traditional windings for my understanding? Looking to be a lot of good things from it as well as a lot of other EV manufacturer companies using it
@Razorcrew_Cole hairpin windings have been around for a while, just wasn't financially efficient enough to product as demand/competition for higher performance motors wasn't there yet.
@DescartesRenegade yep totally makes sense the more I'm seeing on them I think this is going to be a good thing! As long as they have it dialed in good it seems like hairpin is the move just a bigger investment initially like you're saying! I'm excited to see
Honestly... It's Really deciding between the Altis Sigma and The Zero XE.
Both of Their Futuristic approaches could make for another Great Video. 💡
@@throstheelementyottaannum3844 Right on it's interesting point I might have to try to put those side by side after I'm done with the video I'm doing now trying to compare these two better
I ordered the SR yesterday so excited for it
@@You_Frog congrats, I think it's going to be a great choice On paper it shows to be more powerful for sure and they're a great company
Me too
@@You_Frog right on I'm jealous for sure
Me three going to be a great Christmas 🎅🔥🔥
@MiniRazorGang congrats! 🎉
Just found your channel! Amazing content, I love your relaxed personality. As you said, this year has been great for emotos. For the first time, we get rocketships like sigma and e-ride pro sr that don't need upgrades. P.S. I'm the owner of the Ventus One. The only thing I will upgrade is the brakes (that bike missed the dot4 out-of-the-box trend). Thanks again.
@@TechLineHD dude I appreciate that, and I appreciate the chill feeling comment because sometimes I'm not sure if I need to be at everyone's high energy to get followers and views by I want to keep it real. I think that's an amazing bike also and they did just miss by not having those breaks on but still for what you get is a great option
@ thanks again man! Yeah keep it real, keep it chill! Btw, where are from? I’m from part of the EU where we have “winter is coming” feeling right now. We will have the same amount of snow pretty soon!
@TechLineHD I'm in Denver Colorado area USA, I am actually out snowboarding in the Rocky mountains right this second on the left lol
@ that’s amazing! Take care and good luck with your channel!
@TechLineHD You as well much appreciated
I'm going with the SR
@@wintersoldier171 very nice I went with the Altis for a handful of reasons I explain in the next video but I think both great options!
Perfect vid i was torn between the two as well im tryna wait for more reviews for the both of them cause im defiantly going with for 1 or the other. And this will be my first bike
@@skillz2tthemaxx157 holy crap going to be a powerful first bike! I'm working on a more in depth review video to try to get out diving into the specs side by side but time will tell with a review videos for sure
😂i'm in the same situation as well i will wait for the reviews then get whichever is best and it will be a massive upgrade from my 80lb AWD 2,000W e bike
@5angel778 hell ya No matter what it's going to be an awesome upgrade lol I think I'm leaning towards the Altis Right now for a few reason I'm about to release a almost two in depth video
I'll wait to a v2 of both, the E Ride should've worked on issues first with their 2.0, & making it more stout, especially with that much power, it might be fine for just riding in the street, but I get these to usually only ride on the roads to get to the best, nearest trails or jumps. 😆
@@ReVolt_e-Vlogs I feel that, I definitely don't have the patience to wait for any v2s at this point but I agree I kind of am weary of eride because I think they're just trying to move as fast as possible. Like Altis let people test the bike as they knew they were getting close and let people know. You ride just dumped it out like hey we're dropping this now
They did they made the 3.0?
@Time_In1 yeah I think it's a great bike too! But if I'm looking at around $500 difference I'm just going to spend the extra and get more
Both amazing bikes . I sold my Eride pro ss which was amazing to pull the trigger on the sigma not because of the speed but because better brakes better seat better motor just the best option in my style of riding and what I was looking for and I also love that it’s heavier compatible to the average dirtbike weight
@@matthewcoleman1794 I feel that for sure the SS was a great bike
Where’s part 2 and no one has made reviews on the sr apart from surronster please do a proper full review on looks and details I want to get one my self I’m from the UK Birmingham but they only got them on American site not uk site
@@Alex-y9i9s dude I got you Believe it or not I've been editing it for like most the week when I have time when I get off work at night, I am really trying to put it all side by side hundred percent!
I also reached out to both companies and was giving them a few days to get back to me to fill in some of the blanks and have not heard anything 🙄
Just bought my Eride SR can’t wait till it gets here, I think it’s better in my opinion, it beat surronsters built surron ebike by so much and his ebike beat the altis soooo, I also think Eride knows what they are doing, they have history. But both good bikes and I’m sure in another month there will be another nice one. I was going to wait for the talaria dragon but I can’t wait any longer I need another bike😂
Yup
@@TacticalTrendsLV No doubt about that for sure E ride is a great company! I know we've been waiting waiting to see it drop and still nothing right lol hopefully they're just making sure it's going to be awesome
that was the slow altis the 16” rear has a top speed of 65 the 1919 has top speed of 75 faster than the sr
@Time_In1 yeah I was assuming that the smaller rear wheel would be less top speed 👍
@@Time_In1 I guess we will find out won’t we😀
It's the Altis for me, with all the bikes I've built I always used highest voltage I could. There's just much more benefits. My 96v b2 and 96v qs138v3 bike all run perfect IMO. And so much more power compared to when I ran them at 72v
@@pev_bbq awesome comment! I agree, I think a lot of people that are not from the DIY scene and do not fully understand how it works are swayed by seeing more KW but I think I'm going to trust the altis more to
@Razorcrew_Cole yeah I notice that too. I've learned so much from starting with the diy bikes than buying turnkey. The Altis will be my first turnkey bike since everything prior never really wowed me and always lacked in certain components.
@euc_bbq haha I'm in the same boat dude! This is the first bike that I was like wow I can buy that and not feel like I got completely ripped for power out the box lol
After doing a lot of research on the hairpin if they did it correctly it should be pretty beneficial as well looks like
for me i live in the city so im thinking about the e ride pro sr jusf because the altis is seems more for people who live farther away from cities
@@edwinbarahona8266 yeah I think both of these bikes are targeted to the dirt with the tires they come with and power, but either way it will be fun on the street and yeah probably will be a little More inconspicuous!
I'm getting one of each after I sell my eride 2.0 & surron. So ill have a pretty good idea on which one is best and what for! Can't wait to rip right out of the box!
@@Jay-qq7kp I'm like incredibly jealous That's what I would like to do but just not realistic and I'm too attached to my razors to sell anymore haha congrats I can't wait for you to compare them would love to know what you think
@Razorcrew_Cole thanks bro, will update when I get them both here! These things have a way of eating up 💰 but they are just so much fun!
I went arctic leopard. I got the ex800 and it’s awesome
@@hollowedentity7097 I'm going to have to check it out! Is it right in the price range?
@ 8500 lol w/shipping
Though they dropped the price like 1500 to 8000. I feel bad I bought it the day of the price drop from chargedcycleworks
@@Razorcrew_Cole but probably not in the same price range.
@hollowedentity7097 yeah that's kind of what I figured it is a little out of my budget, at that I would say for the Stark
hi pal love your channel btw just wondering have u got a tune for a fardriver on my mototec im running 72v amorge battery and electro and co motor i have tunned it but it doesnt seem to be that fast thanks
@@MrToadie1987 I have not messed with MotoTech bikes at all yet unfortunately.. I appreciate that man!
I still don’t know I just want a gearbox cause my mx5 sounds insane
@@Time_In1 You think the gearbox is better than the belt?
Yes100% you don’t have to worry about a belt snapping and cutting your foot
@Time_In1 That's kind of what I'm thinking as well once we're seeing over 20 KW That is a lot for a belt in my opinion
I'm STUCK on the SAME two bikes... Lets see what you think. My modified xXx will got to my 12 year old son and the 72v Razor will jus be extra....
@@rockydotson31 I'm working on a video putting it all side to side I'll try to get out, I don't know if it helps my decision I like the Altus more but as I'm doing all of this the SR may look better on paper. But doing some research on the hairpin motors and everything to
Its no contest for me. The only reason i didnt buy the eride is that its insanely loud. The altis is the first one thats completely silent plus no belt but gearbox, plus the hairpin motor is the type of motors used by tesla. Only negative is more weight but that also translates into a much stronger frame. I would still wait till consuler reviews are out and all the small eventual problems are solved as did the pro ss 2.0.
@@gargameel007 I'm with you I agree I think too, I don't know if I trust the belt with that much KW. And I'm stoked about the hairpin looks like a lot of companies using the hairpin Porsche, BMW, GM and more! Could be game changing A lot of benefits to that motor too!
I do like e-ride but yep I think that scares me that they are moving so fast and just dump this bike out to compete cuz they want the sales instead of making sure everything's perfect I feel like but time will tell for sure! Thanks for the comment
It’s loud but not that loud and I Love the sound despite a lot of people hating it lol
Also i line higher Voltage more efficient al things being equal. I
Pro foot XR the Connectivity to phone and app but still uses inferior belt drive instead gearbox like this thing similar to talaria . I was going order altis but waiting just tad longer b4 i buy it wish it had regen lever and app management so you change settings on phone instead bike screen only. Plus gps really hoping someone adds that to altis or I'll buy one upgrade controller when ebmx comes out with one for 100v and ya add regen lever to external input
@@dreknows yeah that's what I was thinking with the higher voltage and a hairpin motor! Bummed about no region whatever also such a cool advantage of electric to utilize.
You're saying that the Altis does not have the settings on the phone like there's no Bluetooth app? I was wondering that's definitely dumb
Just curious if u were getting bike for first time would u get 3.0 or sr? No hate if u don't have an answer. Thanx
@@laws9838 Like as in your like first bike first bike ever? Can I ask exactly what kind of riding 75% of the time do you think you'll be doing? The 3.0 is gunna be an ultimate option the SR is going to be a dangerous amount of power for pretty experienced riders to fully take advantage of but you can always not use all the power and grow into it if you're a safe person Just because the price difference isn't that much to save the extra for more.
@Razorcrew_Cole I've had 1000cc sport bikes. Will be my first dirt bike. I will ride 60 to 70 Street/side grass and gravel. Figure since you can dial power can start.slow but always turn up later unlike 3.0. Thanks
@@laws9838 yeah man I said yes are can go wrong with if that's what you're looking at! I went Altis For a few reasons but they're born can be such awesome platforms and yes you can kind of work yourself into it especially with having to tuning capabilities out of the box
@@Razorcrew_Cole Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.
I’m having a hard time deciding if it’s worth it to save up $5000+ or I can get a used 250- 450 gas dirt bike for $2500. I’m personally mostly looking for the power and speed but I’d rather have eletric due to All the points brought up in the video.
@@ScoobyDo0. It depends on what you're really trying to do with it. I'm doing a video going through these two bikes better but I honestly just sold my 450R and Grom cuz I'm so over the gas bikes now personally. They are very expensive but for me it will be more usable as I can get to some places in town and get away with it I think.
The altis is better equipped for fast riding from my memory they go about 60-65 each the altis comes slightly better equipped for off road with a larger battery if im correct i would go for the altis but the e ride isn't a bad option either (also correct me if im wrong i just got into this stuff)
Haha, the opening statement. I definitely don’t have 6k, I’m building my bike so I can get something fast enough for about a third of that 6k.
That being said, I would go with the ERide, I think they’ve been doing a good job and Altus has no experience before this. Both look fun as hell though.
@@johnnyc.3261 I know it's tough with them being new but you got to remember eride was brand new and everyone said the same exact thing last year. Definitely a really hard choice
Or Cole. Get the zero motorcycles, xb. It’s cheaper and can make more power than the eride pro sr. Take a look at it! It’s 74volt!
@@kyleroberts9359 interesting okay maybe I need to go check that out real quick Appreciate bringing that up!
@@kyleroberts9359 It doesn't look like a bad bike for sure, but at 7.5 KW I've ran my razors at 9 KW for 5 years so I just don't think that's enough power for me also 47 mph I'm already doing 60mph and up on razors so I just am looking for something that is beating that. My RSF's running over 12KW The Razor and building should run about 18 kW. But definitely looks like a good bike I'm glad zero is getting in the game
Personally I’d go with the e ride because of the belt. I don’t want to be doing oil changes
@@AnthonyDiVella where did you see that there is oil changes on the Altis??
I believe they said the gearbox is a 5 year maintenance interval.
@randyrosario2373 interesting no one's talking about that yet, 5 years isn't too bad What do we trust more of the belt or the gearbox
@Razorcrew_Cole you missed the info on RevRides original announcement of the Altis on UA-cam. Go back and watch their video. He talks about its gear box ,that will need to be maintained every 5 years. He is eluding to oil changes.
@edgurash834 Right on I appreciate that information dude yep I must have missed it!! 🤦 Thanks I'm going to put that in this video I'm doing now as a slight con I guess. What do we trust more the belt or the gearbox I mean that's a lot of power for a belt
I got the sr I’m happy
Have you got it yet because I really want to get the SR but I live in the uk and the uk site doesn’t sell it on their site yet but only person who has actually done a review is surronster
I Oder it bro it will come late nov early December
@ you got instagram ?
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@@Alex-y9i9s no
Do you have snow already?
@@noce1071 yeah we got two feet within a few days, it will be melted within another few days
altis is good for dirt tracks mostly and eride is good for both dirt and road as well as not catching the wrong eyes on the road, altis is also a kinda new company so theres no telling how great the customer service will be and the community is small so it might not get alot of 3rd part support or help fixing, the eride company isnt so new and has amazing customer support and the community is large and still growing fast and is already getting tons of 3rd party support as well as a very large community that is always willing to help others fix their bikes if they even need to, eride has shown they are durable and reliable while altis still has to prove their worth, so id suggest eride if u can but if u have the time to wait on ur decision then see which ones gets on top but i dont think eride is losing their crown anytime soon and i will be getting the SR as soon as possible.
@@cmr708 For sure I definitely feel that and that's why I haven't ordered it yet or I would have just pulled the trigger! I really like the looks of it and I have bikes for around town that don't draw attention I need something for trails in the mountains so either one is going to be a great option it's just a tough choice
@@Razorcrew_Cole if u don’t want too many looks but to go around town and go on trails I’d say get the eride just cause it’s height and weight cause dirt tracks are good for short bikes like the altis but eride would be good for trails
@cmr708 yeah I mean I have like eight fully modded razors and I'll buy a B2 next as well so I'm not too concerned about taking it around town I don't think I really will unless it's a big group rides in the cities. I personally am in love with the look too. It's more replacing my 450 that I don't ride ever but I don't want the looks to sway me wrong 😆
@@Razorcrew_Cole yea I love the look as well and I plan on doing anything I can when I get mine if I even can my car don’t even work rn but I still have hope cause I wanna feel alive like when I was a kid doing motocross so cross ur fingers I can save enough money to buy the SR cause it’ll probably replace my car XD
@cmr708 haha that's awesome but I mean realistically at 70 mph we are starting to see these things be legitimately a way of transportation! If I lived somewhere it was warm all year I would definitely consider it
I been wanted the sr I knew it was gonna be right but that altis is mean too
@@HannibalSahura making it a tough choice
Knowing E RIDE PRO, they are working on a higher voltage bike to do battle with the Altis Sigma as I type this...😂
@@ANTIINJECTIONS no doubt 😂
Altos sigma cause it looks better and I think it’s better built quality overall I’ve also seen many complaints about all erides and that there cheaply mad
@@ghastly545 I'm kind of leaning that way for sure and totally agree with that. Following up with a more in detail video so I appreciate the input!
I love the sr. Its a great street bike and off roader. It wont attract allot of attention as it is the 125 cc dirtbike size . The altis will always be the better off roader however surronsters found it quite heavy and hard to wheelie . I think for pure off road the altis smokes eride however the versatitility of the eride wins for me
@@Surronsterlover-69 I agree, it's a tough decision because I definitely want wheelies but at the same time I raise your lays 125 lb so when you look at the difference 200 shouldn't feel terrible. But it's a hard choice
Well maybe you should buy both, test them, and give me the one you don't want trusttttttt
Altis by far.
@@ColdStoneRacing 👍
Think there’s a mistake in the title
@@Aidan_aj13 haha holy crap that's funny thank you for pointing that out
Altis cheaper #1
@@orlandovalentin6325 I think it's going to be the better choice also
This is the question I’m dying to have answered!
@@campfirestories744 going through a really detailed video looking at the bikes on paper comparison in depth. I'll try to get it out in a few days just kind of helping me decide so I'll share it with everyone else too
Sigma hands down. The Eride has a jack shaft and belt so no thanks. That is just inferior technology
@@LarryRichelli yeah I'm agreeing with you on that!
Dudeeee the sr is so much better than the altis, its faster, has more range, lighter, it is LITERALLY just a better version of an altis.
@@JohnnyCast24 yeah on paper it is better I'm doing a full video but if you understand how the stuff works I think the Altis is honestly better. When you do the math it's only a 2AH difference and the hairpin motor is more efficient. But yes it's new in this industry so we'll see. I think I'm leaning Altis but I want to see side by side race lol.
If you rode the 2.0 you know it looks and is just a little cheap feeling makes a lot of creaky sounds. I'm hoping the altis is overall just kind of a stronger platform. If the erine wants to be a little faster I am not that concerned about 3 kW difference
@@JohnnyCast24 And like I talked about in this video I'm going to put out, to get 25 kW out of 72 volts is going to take like 300 line amps which is going to drain power much faster than the altis I wouldn't be surprised if the ERide does worse in range honestly
Check the websites. Altis will be faster. But the SR will be quicker off the line. Altis will go 70-75mph top speed whereas the SR will only do 62 mph top speed. It is right their websites. Check it out for yourself.
@edgurash834 yeah like I said the e-ride Pro is going to be faster slightly but they're just dumping a lot of amps out. And they're actually claiming 70 mph now on eride website which is a little sus
@@Razorcrew_Cole ua-cam.com/video/zHvD8IXyJGo/v-deo.htmlsi=iByaGJtMXskV0PKN
Sigma, you already know. This is clickbait.
@@heathhollenshead5192 hahahaha A lot of people saying the SR they are picking over it but I think I'm definitely leaning Altis. I appreciate the comment cuz I am genuinely curious on everyone's thoughts
Ewwww snow already😢
SR🔥🔥🔥🔥50ah😊...98v35ah😕😕
@@tipitktm2549 so the thing is if you do the math to actually compare that. It would compare to being 2AH less is all and with a hairpin motor being about 20-30% more efficient you're probably going to see actually that bike performing better as well as it's going to be dumping less amps with higher voltage so you're going to see that u ride battery drain faster cuz it's going to be dumping probably around 300 peak like amps.
@@tipitktm2549 I know it sounds crazy when you look at the big difference in AH but it's actually just simple math. As well as the basic IPM motor just will not be as efficient as the hairpin Ipm I think. Both amazing bikes no matter what
@@Razorcrew_Cole I agree with the pin engine but you should know that this is the first year of production, you have to be careful about it for me 🙏
@@Razorcrew_Cole I'm really looking forward to seeing the SR VS ALTIS 630nm vs601nm it's going to be hot
@tipitktm2549 No doubt, hairpin is being used by a lot of big manufacturers in the EV scene but if you're off just a little bit you can have big issues for sure so if they don't have all their stuff in line that could be an issue. They have a one-year warranty so if you have issues with a hairpin I think it's going to be right away otherwise if it's built precisely should be good for a long long time