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Hermann Szobel. WOW. thank you for discussing this album. It’s absolutely one of the most mind blowing records I’ve ever heard in my life. I know Mike Visceglia well. A good buddy. I sat next to him in a Broadway pit for 7 years; we discussed great music every day and he never mentioned this record. He tells me now it’s like another person or another life. He can’t believe he is even on it. Herman’s story, the whole thing is just baffling and jaw dropping. This album is one of the coolest records I’ve ever heard in my life. Wow.
"Joyous Lake" is definitely one of the greatest jazz rock albums ever! It's been one of my favorites since I first heard it in the seventies. There is nothing else that sounds like it. It kicks butt!
Thank you Andy! "Urban Ensemble" worked quite a bit around LA in the late 70's. This disc was recorded in '77 (also listen to "Best of the LA Jazz Ensemble" - tracks from those sessions I could release when we were under contract to GRP ... about 5 mins ...lol) Actually Urban Ensemble got pretty heavy national airplay according to Arista (distributor) - Clive came out to hear us at the Baked Potato ... I moved to NYC in '81 and had to start from scratch. If you dig shredding, "Tides of Time" 1988 CD has some killing solos (Carlos Santana called me after hearing this) ... Hope all is well is great there for you!! Hope to get back over the pond again some day!! Peace
It's killer stuff Roland...I would love to interview you for my channel! Send me a message!
His only album is definitely a lost gem. I never had the balls to really give it a listen, but now that you're going to talk about it, I've found it here on YT and immediately understood why this is such a treasure. Seems like his life story is very mysterious. I once knew a guy from the US who was found walking around Jerusalem, and along the Jordan river, thinking he was Jesus. They called it the "Jerusalem Syndrome".
Szobel is an incredible album. He’s the nephew of concert promoter Bill Graham.
Late to this video, but I think at least an honorable mention is needed for Larry Coryell's Spaces. As per Wikipedia..."Spaces is an album by jazz guitarist Larry Coryell that was released in 1970. Coryell is accompanied by John McLaughlin on guitar, Chick Corea on electric piano, Miroslav Vitouš on bass, and Billy Cobham on drums. The album is sometimes considered to have started the jazz fusion genre".
Great selection. I'm glad that you mentioned library music. There are a ton of great library music albums that are in the jazz-funk style. Many compilations were released in the '90s/'00s that collect the best tracks from hard-to-find Brit, French, German and Italian library albums.
Same. It’s some of my favorite music ever
Szobel is a monster of a player, and the album is brilliant!
I've had a vinyl copy in my collection since its initial release.
There has been a proper CD reissue available for a while. Available though Laser's Edge and SynPhonicMusic online catalogs.
Its on Tidal in mqa if your gear supports 16 x unfolding of the 'definitely not compressed' format (hah!) Sounds incredible.
Hermann Szobel vanished ALMOST without a trace. he was spotted however as a homeless person on the west coast. I've known about this record and him for thirty years.
Yes, Szobel is! That album stands head and shoulders above most of the more popular stuff, not for the faint-hearted.
If you like Joyous Lake by Pat Martino I highly recommend finding the recording on youtube of Pat and the Joyous Lake band live at the Keystone Korner (it's great! - it came from an FM radio broadcast during the tour supporting the record). The recording shows they worked up additional material in the style of the Joyous Lake record but owing to his health issues that happened after the tour Pat did not continue in that vein. I waited many years to see if there were any bootlegs from that time and luckily this is an excellent one.
Yep...absolutely...Joyous Lake..is a legend of an album.A one off-type album for ..Pat..as well ✌️
Thanks Andy on setting up a Spotify channel for your "Forgotten Classics".
Thanks for listening
I had the great fortune to see John Stevens Away at the Plough in Stockwell in about 1979. The line up was John Stevens (drums), Jeff Clyne bass, Allan Holdsworth guitar, Gordon Beck piano and (I think) John McCrae (from Isotope) on electric piano. They just improvised from the get-go, no charts, no pre-arranged, two 45 minute sets of pure spontaneous combustion. Utterly brilliant.
Eddie Henderson,s 2 Records on Capricorn, this and the second one are a must for all Mwandishi Fans. They are without Julian Priester, whose first ECM Record is also something for Mwandishi Fans.
Agree with whole heart on the Eddie Henderson Capricorn Lps and with the Julian Priests which I believe also features Bill Dinners on gtr!
That's Julian Priester and Bill Conners to correct the spell checker ...
The first Album by Bennie Maupin on ECM belongs too. Whilst the Next One was an addition to Headhunters.
The first 3 Records by Norman Connors also reflects the Mwandishi Band.
But the one Record here mentioned by Eddie Henderson is really up there with Sextant.
By the way DARK released two albums on the German CMP label: „Dark“ and „Tamna Voda“
There were other great albums on that label from Ed Mann, Chad Wackerman, Eyeball (Van’t Hof, Lockwood, Stief, Malach, Romano) and especially „Hip Address“ from David Earle Johnson with Jan Hammer. Besides this great duo released their first album „Time is free“ on the Vanguard label. Another interesting album on CMP: “ Let's Be Generous“ Joachim Kühn / Mark Nauseef / Tony Newton / Miroslav Tadic. By the way, Joachim Kühn released some great jazz-rock albums „Cinemascope“ and „Hip Elegy“ on MPS, „Springfever“ (Wea), INFORMATION (George Kochbeck, Joachim Kühn, Mark Nauseef) as well as his collaborations with Jan Akkermann and Toto Blanke („Spider“)
Concerning Roland Vazquez check out „Feel Your Dream“ with Stu Goldberg and „The Tide of Time“ with Mike Stern
There were lots of interesing rare groove and library music albums on the French label Vadim Music. Aside from Janko Nilovic there are Jean-Claude Pelletier, Georges Arvanitas Quintet, Stringtronics, Pop Instrumental De France, CCPP, Synthesis…
There is another fusion album of Pat Martino „Starbright“ from 1976.
Mark Visceglia the bassist of HermannSzobel recently released an album „Middle of Somewhere“. He had once separated from Hermann Szobel in a dispute. Now apparently he makes himself the executor of his estate, brings out the material that has been forgotten in the archives and searches for other lost Szobel recordings.
Dark's "Tamna Voda" is a unique and extraordinary album. I bought it as a blind buy when it was released in 1989. Mark Nauseef found his niche when he moved into fusion and avant garde music in the early 1980's. When I hear those music passages by Herman Svobel I think of Zappa. The vibraphone/xylophone might be the reason.
I was lucky enough to see Pat Martino during this tour in a very small room at San Diego State University California.
He had this exact band including the extraordinary Kenwood denard on drums.
I will never forget it
I bought this album back in the 80’s, without realising what I had! In fact it remained in its sleeve for nearly a decade before I listened to it! Terrific album, of course!
What no Shaggs? Zappa said these girls were greater than the Beatles
Where the Beatles Jazzrock Fusion?
If yes, then the Shaggs must be the best Jazzrock Band of alltimes.
Can it be that they were forgotten because they were „Girls“?
Thanks for the intros to some Fusion albums that sort of fell through the cracks. Another group that fits in with these was the German group 'Passport', led by Klaus Doldinger on sax. They started in the early '70s, and their '75 album Cross-Collateral got a reasonably wide distribution in the US. On that album the main influence is clearly middle period Weather Report, but you can also tell that the drummer had listened to a lot of Billy Cobham. Apparently they have managed to keep putting albums out, in spite of many personnel changes.
Klaus Doldinger is a living legend. 2021 he released "The First 50 Years of Passport". His 1975 drummer is Curt Cress. Cress is Germany's Leland Sklar of the drums. 14 000 releases with near half billion sales and Cress on the drums. Both, Doldinger and Cress are very successfull music producers for TV and movies. (I check every year Curt Cress's published yearly company balances. He is in his own league)
Always felt like their albums lacked dissonance. Can you recommend anyone?
RAHMAN was a French-Algerian band of Mahamad Hadi (alias: Mad Sheer Khan) with Didier Lockwood, Gerard Prevost among others. There were many great French Jazz Rock Bands starting from the seventies: SURYA (the first and gigantic band of Didier Lockwood), ZAO, Neffesh Music, Transit Express, David Rose (Group), ZOO, Michel Ripoche, Ripoche/Demay, Spheroe, Speed Limit, Synthesis, Benoit Wideman, Patrick Gauthier, Bernard Paganotti PAGA, Volkor, Francis Lockwood, Forgas, Potemkine, Cortex, Troc, Ceccarelli, C.C.P.P., Working Progress, Bad News Travel Fast, Chute Libre, Abus Dangereux, Eider Stellaire, Troll, Jaques Thollot (Cinq Hops), Edidtion Special, FUSION (Vander, Lockwood, Widemann Top), DLG/Didier Lockwood Group, Pierre Blanchard (Each one teach one), Pierre Moerlen’s Gong, Katapulse, Tryphon, Sixun, Ultramarine, One Shot, Guillaume Perret & The Electric Epic … and many more …
I am familiar with the work of some of these bands/artists. Besides the big names [Bernard Paganotti, Moerlen Zao, Lockwood, Andre Ceccarelli, Vander, Forgas], I got fascinated by the album Dark Shot by One Shot. The song Dark P takes you to another level of being.
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There are really a lot of great jazz rock fusion bands in France, in all kinds of genres (Zeuhl, Funk, Soul, Avantgarde, Heavy, African Music...). You should just check them out.
ONE SHOT is a great band. I saw the live some years ago with the late guitar player James Mac Gaw. After James' death, which was unfortunately far too early, they released two CDs "A James" and "111" with the following line-up:
Philippe Bussonnet basse - Daniel Jeand'Heur batterie - Emmanuel Borghi clavier - Bruno Ruder clavier
My God. I just listened to that Szobel album. What a treasure!
I met Mike Visceglia the bass player on that recording here in NY about15 yrs ago, He was probably living near the area where I worked in midtown Manhattan. I would see him very often and we would talk about music and bass..He gave me a copy of his book "A View From The Side" which I still have and enjoy; Its mainly interviews with other session bass players like Will Lee,Tony Levin, Lee Sklar etc. At that time he had also been the bass player for Suzanne Vega and is probably on all her main recordings. The book is great and also very autobiographical, full of stories from his NY session days. Great guy that I always remember...He even sold me one of his basses. Comes as a surprise that he is the bassist on this recording which I knew nothing about until watching this video.
I am interviewing him tomorrow
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Really looking forward to that interview and to hopefully run into him in person one day
I first knew of David Torn on the two "Everyman Band" albums on ecm
Giving these a Listen is going to be like meeting old friends for the first time, I just know I’m going to like them , every snippet sounded good.
Andy, I'm so glad you dove deep into the Hermann Szobel album. I first got into it about 2 years ago while on one of my Spotify "Fans Also Like" rabbit hole journeys, where I start with one artist's Spotify page, and then go to their "Fans Also Like" section, pick a band I had never heard before, and keep going from one band to the next. I don't remember who I started with on that particular day (about 2 years ago), although if I had to guess it was probably Zappa, or perhaps maybe Cameron Graves (who knows), but somewhere along the way I ended up at Hermann Szobel and LOVED it! I listened to that album about 7 times in a row, thus ending my rabbit hole journey for the weekend, and I got back to it regularly.
I really appreciated your deep dive into Szobel's background as I had no idea of anything about his history (which is totally wild and intrigueingly-eccentric), but this just makes me love the album even more. I've got to find a CD or vinyl copy of it.
I'm certain that I am one of those 24 monthly Spotify listeners you mentioned...I absolutely love this album.
Cheers!
Another great video -for me your channel is one of the most interesting and informative about the music I love -thank you. Hermann Szobel deserves to be known if his first album is anything to go by.
The Nilovic and Szobel are amazing finds!! Thank you this is uber-tasty stuff!!!! Me happy!
Cheers Andy. The Szobel album certain has a strong Zappa influence ('black pages' of notes). Pretty damned hot for a kid! I've wanted that Pat Martino album for a long time...
I found the Szobel record today in Bowling Green, KY! A promo at that. Four bucks!!
Thank you.
I have all the Iceberg albums. Flamenco inspired Jazz/Rock. Pure Killer! Their best as stated by Andy Edwards is Sentiments followed closely by Coses Nostres.
Wow a lot of great stuff here! That Szobel is particularly intriguing! You might to check out Roger Powell's first solo record "Cosmic Furnace"
Roger Powell is known as the keyboardist of "Utopia", but he is an important figure in the technical and artistic development electronic instruments,.
He literally wrote the book on programming the Arp Odyssey. A master synthesizer sound designer.
Anyhow "Cosmic Furnace" may be the grittiest most organic most colorful electronic music album out there, very Jazzy and "Fusiony". And very obscure
The follow-up "Air Pocket" I recommend as well - it's a little more prog than fusion (just a few fusion-esque touches throughout) but great stuff. It sounds like it could have been recorded last week as well.
Fantastic album! Thanks
@@aliensporebomb Yep I have that on vinyl! Only have listened to "Furnace" online, but my favorite of those two.
Great reccomendation.. awsome sounds, very thick and textured.. killer arp sound, not the standard one everyone used. Look up 'tensegrity sphere'...
Great video and list! One hidden gem I gotta recommend is Etna - Etna from 1976
Thanks for giving props to Eddie Henderson. I think his albums from Realization thru Heritage are all excellent. Derivative of Herbie and Miles, yet so well done!!!
it's an incredible coincidence but i got the cd from Szobel a couple of days ago, just looked interesting from a post on facebook, where it was on sale. just blew my mind! incredible jazz-rock-prog
Zappa would have hired Szobel had he heard Herman. Then eventually Herman and Steve Vai would have left Zappa's band to collaborate more tightly. Had this happened the duet would have been big. Steve Vai would eventually tell David Lee Roth, "Yeah sure, but Szobel's coming with me. We're a package!" That in turn would have been such a tour de force to heavily influence Roth in his re-creating himself once again as not just non-Halen rock star but Jazz/Rock star. David Lee Roth would have been the new generation's Mel Tormé! :D
Dark is a precursor to Let's be Generous. Up until last week, there was a guitarist in Bloomington ,Indiana who happened to have the same chops as Miroslav Tadic, but sadly he passed away.
Searchin for Sugarman? Lets search Szobel! 🙂
Bought Szobel's album back in 1977 after hearing a cut played on a progressive midnight radio program, loved it, and every time I went to the record store for the next 10+ years checked to see if he'd put out another album. Inexplicably, he never did.
Great list! There are some great hidden gems in there. Wanted to share my own top 13 obscure ones. Just for context my all time fav bands are Mahavishnu Orch. (especially Visions of Emerald Beyond), Focus (esp Hamburger Concerto), Trace (especially Birds), Miles Davis (esp the eclectic era), Zappa (esp. Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats, Sleep Dirt and Wakka Jawakka) Here is the list:
H̤a̤r̤v̤e̤y M̤a̤n̤d̤e̤l̤ - C̤r̤i̤s̤t̤o̤ R̤e̤d̤e̤n̤t̤o̤r̤ (1968)
Hands (1977)
Dominique Guiot
Centipede - Septober Energy (1971)
Et Cetera Et Cetera (1976)
Happy the Man - Crafty Hands (1978)
Aera - Mechelwind (1973)
OUT OF FOCUS (1971)
ISLAND - Pictures (1977)
PYTHAGORAS - (1980)
Samla Mammas Manna - Måltid (1973)
Prof Wolfff = Prof Wolfff - (1972)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)
Thanks Andy for shining a light on some hidden gems. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Szobel is on Tidal in MQA format and it sounds fabulous. What an incredible album. Shades of Gregory Peccary. Thanks.
Is that Don Alias playing congas/bongo on that Grossman album?!
Sounds like him! ...I know that the two of them have some history.
Fab, never heard of any of those. That last story is so intriguing. It reminds me of Australian artist, Mandu, who released an acclaimed self titled album in the late 1970's which tanked, and who soon later disappeared despite being a singer for the legendary Lobby Loyde bands prior to his solo effort.
A few Australian albums:
Out of the Blue (1973) by MacKenzie Theory. Recored live in the studio before a small audience. Lots of viola. Rob MacKenzie later became the guitarist for Sha Na Na in the USA.
Inner Space (1973) by Sven Liabek. He originally came from Norway as a Julliard graduate. He had fantastic careers in both Australia and America and i think is still active in Australia. Inner Space gets an intro from William Shatner! Its a soundtrack to a shark film by the famous Taylor's. $750 for the original vinyl.
The Exciting Daly Wilson Big Band featuring Kerrie Biddell (1972). Fantastic jazz funk popular with beat artists. Some of the players cut their teeth in USA big bands in the 60's.
Thanks Andy for this, I've been listening and collecting fusion records for at least 43 years and 5 of these artist/groups I never heard of !
Here are 3 hidden gems worth listening to : André Ceccarelli_Ceccarelli (1978 on InnerCity Record), Ernie Krivda_Satanic (1977 on InnerCity Record) and Zao_Typhareth
(1977 on RCA Record) featuring a young Manu Katche on drums.
Just found your channel a couple of days ago and can hardly stop watching your videos! While I know and have some of the obscure records you mention, there
are so many more of your suggestions well worth to be checked out! I just managed to grab a copy of Szobel, what a crazy story.
Concerning the Album Rahmann you mentioned here: as far as I know this is the band of Mahamad (or Muhamad) Hadi, also known as "Mad Sheer Khan", whose background is arabian, persian and french. He's the exciting guitarist on Nico's "Drama of Exile" from 1981; that's where I noticed him. (Not sure if you care for Nico, but she might be worth
a video as well.)
May I also mention Michael Shrieve's albums "Two Doors" and "Fascination" from the mid-90s. Perhaps too new to be considered "classics", but very nice!
Mike Visceglia was a pretty well known bassist in the late 70's and 80's here in NYC. He became known as a pop bassist and became singer/songwriter Susan Vega's bassist all through her most successful period with her hit song "Luca."
I am interviewing him today
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Mike Visceglia?
Lots of new albums added to the wantlist! I had a strange sense of deja vu when you got to the last artist - this year after finding a strange CD rom from the 90's, I ended up learning about The Great Kat - an incredibly accomplished violin virtuoso, who was then not able to break into the classical world, and ended up in heavy metal, but spiraling out of control - she is still around today with a youtube channel that makes little to no sense. Maybe there is something to be explored in what happens to young, narcissistic virtuosos for whom the big break doesn't happen.
Just did a marathon of your reviews and interviews. Haven't watched in a while but was just listening to some rare overlooked artist and if you haven't mentioned recently I would like to suggest turning people on to violinist MICHAEL URBANIAK and some later return to Fusion Tabla percussionist TRILOK GURTO !!!
Very interesting Andy
Thanks !
100% agree about Joyous Lake. Starbright is pretty good too.
thanks for ICEBERG Andy!!
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I think it’s more like Zhobel. Kind of a zsh sound. In any case, I listened to it and was impressed. He was precocious.
I’ve had the CD reissue for a number of years. It was suggested by a friend who knows I love Zappa.
Excellent listing!
The two Steve Grossman albums were released on PM records. Also check out „Heads up“ of Stone Alliance with Jan Hammer, „On the Mountain“ of Elvin Jones with Jan Hammer and Gene Perla. And on the sublabel PLUG: „The Midweek Blues“ Jan Hammer, John Abercrombie and David Earle Johnson
Nice surprise to see you mention Roland Vazquez. He's a great composer, drummer and teacher. He's teaching at Bard college in upstate New York.
My wife, a saxophonist, and I get together with Roland fairly regularly and play/record free form improvised music. We put out a recording a few years back under our band name Triospeak. TrioSpeak vol 1. We've been working on new material for the last four months.
Roland is still composing. I think he's working on music for a nonet.
I just sent him a link to your video. Cheers.
Wow....thank you for that
Thanks for your intriguing list.
The Szobel album is so Zappaesque it's painful. Sorry, but I don't hear anything special about this album. My recommendations for lesser-known jazz rock albums are:
John Stevens' Away - s/t (1975)
John Stevens' Away - Somewhere In Between (1976)
John Stevens' Away - Mazin Ennit (1977)
Frank Strazzeri - After The Rain (1976)
Gilgamesh - s/t (1975)
Gilgamesh - Another Fine Tune You've Got Me Into (1978)
Jasper Van't Hof's Pork Pie - Balver Hohle Jazzfestival, Germany July 27, 1974
Jasper Van't Hof's Pork Pie - Transitory (1974)
Jasper Van't Hof's Pork Pie - The Door Is Open (1976)
Wow! This is the best you've done so far!
This is one of my favorite of yours so far, such a great wealth of knowledge!
Glad you enjoy it!
Unfortunately while growing up I was beaten over the head with US & UK Jazz Rock/Prog/Fusion groups and promised myself to delve a little more into groups from around the world who put out some incredible music in the 70's and 80's. A lot of them had to come to America for some recognition.
Another artist I like very much is Karim Ziad. A fantastic (ex- Zawinul) drummer who kept all of his culture in his compositions.
Hadn’t heard of Rahmann. Love it. Apparently, has members from Magma, Gong and one my fav lesser known jazz rock Zao.
Zao were like a jazzfunk/fusion version of magma
Hey Andy,
Well you knew I couldn’t resist a challenge like this!
I already posted on another of your videos about one of my all-time favourite bands, Area, and hopefully you will be able to check them out, especially as they feature North African influences in their music, which I know you love!
But here are some other suggestions of less well known fusion albums you may enjoy if you don’t already know them.
Tales of the Exonerated Flee by Horacee Arnold - Jan Hammer and John Abercrombie are tearing it all over this album, it is a mix of what I call hard early 70s fusion and more jazz stylings.
On the Mountain by Elvin Jones - what can I say, a trio with Jan Hammer just tearing it up again, classic!
Flight Never ending by Mingo Lewis - OMG strap yourself in, this is full on percussion led fusion, and Al Di Meola borrowed a number of Mingo’s compositions for his first two solo albums, which Mingo also appeared on!
Open your Eyes You Can Fly by Flora Purim - I am a massive Flora Purim fan and many of her 70s albums deserve massive praise, not least because of the presence of greats like George Duke, Leon Chancellor and Alphonso Johnson. I could name any number of other great albums by her.
Vimana by Nova - I mentioned this band in my previous message to you. The incomparable Corrado Rustici channels Jonny Mac in a mash up of styles, and as a bonus Narada is on drums and Percy Jones on bass!
Caldera - I love this band, which was basically a Latin version of RTF, featuring world class musicians including the Latin Ald Di Meola, Gorge Strunz in guitar. Honestly I can’t pick my favourite album out of the 4 they did, Caldera, Sky Islands, Time and Chance and Dreamer. Incendiary stuff!
Roller by Goblin - this band came to fame doing the soundtrack music for some of Dario Argento’s most famous Italian horror flicks, particularly Proffondo Rosso, but Roller was a non-soundtrack album that had a great proggy, fusion Pink Floyd feel.
You beat me to it on Joyous Lake, but in case you don’t know, Pat did an interesting follow up in 1998 called Stone Blue.
Lets’ Be Generous by Joachim Kuhn - oh boy this is a screamer, Miroslav Tadich does a punk Holdsworth and Tony Newton fittingly is on bass, this you will enjoy!
The Genie by Booby Lyle - Wayne Henderson late of the Crusaders set up his own production house and had an amazing core of musicians, many taken fomt the killer funk fusion group Pleasure. Bobby Lyles was the main keyboard guy and an absolute virtuoso. The Genie is his most full on album and a pristine example of funky fusion.
Jeff Lorber - people think of Jeff as a funky smooth jazz artist, but in his early days he was really tearing it up with heavy doses of fusion, and the albums I would point you to are The Jeff Lorber Fusion, Water Sign and Galaxian.
Exhibition and Jazziz by John Serry - I have a sneaking recollection you may have talked about John? These 2 albums are insane in the same way your Szobel album is. John was a child prodigy, tore it up at Eastman College with his band Auracle, and then went on to release these two fusion masterpieces. I got to know John personally and he actually stayed with me when he was in the UK, but let’s just say geniuses can be difficult! I think I posted the story about the 2 top session guitarists who turned up high as a kite thinking they could do the session for Exhibition standing on their head, and then crapped themselves when they saw the charts. In the end the great Barry Finnerty stepped in and did a great job; John said Barry could read anything. Of course the great Mike sembello did an amazing job on the follow up Jazziz (btw check out Mike’s fantastic funk and fusion playing on Geore Duke’s From Me to You).
Some honourable mentions, a lot of the Charlie Mariano stuff which often featured Phillipe Catherine, lots of stuff put out by the German MPS label, and the incredible output of Germany’s most famous fusion band, Passport (I particularly like the album Ataraxia).
Finally, on Roland Vasquez, I was a big proponent of his back in the day telling all my mates about him, even making compilation tapes can you believe! I am pretty sure I have all the albums he has released. His band featured fantastic musicians such Patrice Rushen, Mike Stern and the late great Jeff Andrews. My favourite album of his is Tides of Time which features one of the greatest covers of Palladium I have ever heard, it is absolutely incendiary!
Anyway enough blather from me, Andy I hope you enjoy any of these you don’t already know, and no doubt I will back on another video to chat fusion!
Thank you very much for this great List. I want more!
Many of those I did consider. I do not know Caldera though, I will check them out
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Great Minds Andy!
Overnight another interesting one occurred to me, do you know the great Finnish guitarist Jukka Tolonen? He became famous as guitarist for the progressive rock band Tasavallan Presidentti. If not, check out A Passenger to Paramaribo and my favorite, Montreux Boogie Live, which also features another incredible guitarist Coste Apetrea. The best way I can describe it is Al Di Meola meets Larry Carlton.
Also I don't know if you are familiar with a band from Bristol called Present Tense? My mate Beni Williams was keyboards and it also featured the remarkable Phil Gibbs on guitar (who I said previously you might enjoy as he has shades of Roy about him), Marco Anderson on drums and sometimes Paul Dunmall on sax. They have collaborated with a number of musicians like Tony Hymas, and John Seryy recorded an album with them too when he was over. Its all free improvisation but great stuff. They did a couple of albums with an insane South American bassist Antonio Quijano, a tapping genius who Eddie Gomez was impressed by amongst others. I can probably arrange to get you some of their stuff it interested.
Cheers
Great list. I love Embryo from Germany
I think this may be your greatest video 📹 ever for me. 1 question, or comment: what do you consider so proggy about your big reveal album (wish you'd given some samples of the specifically program, rather than fusion, aspects of the album).
Great to add a Spotify playlist 😀
Keep your inspirational and informative vids coming.
Brilliant!! Thanks Andy will be checking these out....
My favourite so far is Iceberg....love it!!!!
Andy, you should be listening to all the albums of German band Embryo! A band that was highly praised by Miles Davis! Some of the best jazz rock recordings of all time.
Great list. Lots of Jan Hammer, and that's good! he did so many good things during the '70s.
This could perhaps be well known now but Hammer's work on John Abercrombie's "Timeless" on ECM is really wild - "Lungs" in particular with wild trading of solos leading to a deep synth bass groove about 7 minutes in spurred on by the great drumming of Jack DeJohnette. Another more obscure record with Jan is "The Midweek Blues" also performed with John Abercrombie and the late David Earle Johnson, kind of a power trio which is not something I ever expected to hear out of Jan.
@@aliensporebomb "Hip address" is a very good album by Johnson/Hammer. "Route two" is Johnson, Abercrombie, Dan Wall plus Gary Campbell, Joe Chambers and Jeremy Steig on some tunes. Those guys produced quite a lot of great music together.
Great video. Hermann Szobel! Already has his own Wikipedia page
Mike Visceglia is a great New York bassist, best known for his association with Suzanne Vega.
Check out my interview with Mike
Mark Nauseef, on Dark -- played with Elf (i.e., with Ronnie James Dio) -- and I believe grew up with RJD... There are some records with him and Miroslav Tadic outsde of Dark (and one of them at least with Jack Bruce, iirc)... I met Miroslav in the audience at a Janet Feder/Mike Keneally show some years back, mentioned the Dark record to him. He told me his favorite David Torn record was "What Means Solid, Traveler?" and soon I concurred.
Mark London SIms is on and early Nels Cline record -- the first Nels Cline record that I bought -- Silencer ... it's been a lot of years since I looked all this up, though so fact-checking me might be necessary.
That’s my week’s listening sorted, thanks Andy…and Jerusalem syndrome? Wow
Still hoping to catch Philip Catherine’s Guitars on a list some day
Some great stuff here - found some background on Rahmann - recorded in France led by Algerian ex pat Mahamad Hadi who went on to record multiple albums with former Velvet Undergrounds singer Nico. The bassist was in French fusion group Zao. Both Didier Lockwood and Liza Deluxe from Magma guest on the LP.
Janko Nilovic is not so unknown at least to hip hop producers, his tunes have been frequently sampled by artists such as DJ Jazzy Jeff, Jay Z and MF Doom
Anyone interested in hearing some great prog, kraut and euro jazz fusion flips Madlib Rock Konducta really digs up some gems
Iceberg is one of my favorite bands
This was great Andy! I know most of these albums except for the 80s ones... that Szobel I recall reading about on a website about 20 or so years ago... need to listen to it again as it sounds right up my alley... you're doing a great job here! Btw I'd throw in Pop Workshop Vol 1 (not to be confused with their Pterodactyl LP which had Tony Williams!) from 1973 as an absolutely incredible unknown LP which was very big for me... an incredible mix of musicians from Sweden (some Abba session musicians!), Poland and the US (Ed Thigpen)...
Dying to know if you like any of these players/groups:
Solution
Crosswind
Ricky Peterson
Nova
Kaori Kobayashi
Thirsty Moon
Alcatraz
Rolf Kuhn
Masabumi Kikuchi
Fuse One
Saluki
Finnforest
The Necks
Teddy Lasry
Visitor 2035
Ozone Quartet
Aurora
Ekseption
Messengers
Pocket Orchestra
Ablution
Pete Carr
Contraband
Trimurti
Alphonse Mouzon
Mark Colby
Syncrisis
Masaru Imada
Thanks for this List.
Masabumi Kikuchi is definitely one of the most Important Jazzrock Fusion Musician. Terumaso Hino should also be noted.
Loving this album, very Zappaish
I have that Szobel album, just can't find it right now, lol. I also have both the Steve Grossman albums. Also have the Pat Martino album. Update: Found my copy of Szobel, and it's as good as I remember it
#1 is a great find. Thank you!
I purchased a copy of *Touching On* by *John Stevens* a few years after release.
My main interest was certainly *Allan Holdsworth's* inclusion on the LP.
I didn't know about the *furore* about the release and that Allan wasn't happy about it btw.
In addition, I don't remember *Gordon Beck* on it, although I don't doubt that *Andy* is correct there. I always liked Gordon Beck as he'd been a welcome addition on Ian Carr's album *Labyrinth* in the early seventies along with a host of acclaimed British jazzers *(Norma Winstone, Tony Coe, Roy Babbington etc).*
But I digress, Touching On does feature some great playing from Allan. 👌
I'm afraid my memory banks failed me. GB is not on Touching On
Andy, great stuff! A lot of music new to me... Thanks!
My pleasure!
Excellent video. Thank you so much.
Wow, thanks for the recommendations. I already had that Gordon Beck, the Pat Martino, and the Mark Nauseef one with Torn and Shankar.
I just bought the Szobel album on Amazon!
Herman’s album is on Amazon music as well
Fascinating story.
INCORRECT; The "Touching On" record was drummer JOHN STEVENS'S album NOT Gordon Beck's.. Actually there were two records that came from those sessions in 1977 both credited to John Stevens; Touching On and Retouch. They are NOT Gordon's records. As a matter of fact Gordon Beck doesn't even play on Touching On or Retouch! Holdsworth and Beck did three records that were officially credited to either Gordon Beck himself or Holdsworth/Beck; The Things You See in 1980 was Beck's record, also "Sunbird" in 1979 like you mentioned, and "With A Heart In My Song" 1988 which is Gordon Beck AND Allan Holdsworth jointly. Finally, there are other records that exist which include Beck and Holdsworth together in more free improvising situations and are credited collectively to all the musicians involved on those recordings. "None Too Soon," although Gordon Beck plays on the album, it is not a joint record of both Holdsworth and Beck, it is an Allan Holdsworth release.
That 'Dark' D. Thorn and L. Shankar almost sounds like Ornette Coleman (?)
I was just wondering Andy, if you ever have heard the Charlie Mariano album “12 Helen trees”? It got a who’s who of Jazz-rock on it, as; Jan Hammer, Jack Bruce, the late John Marshall and Zbigniew Seifert. The reason I am mentioning it is because, it might as well fit in with your fine list here. It’s worth listening to anyway.
Good day to you Sir!
Another band you desperately need to know The Viola Crayola from Texas. One album. Masterpiece
Fascinating. Thanks.
Just listened to the Szobel album. Amazing virtuosity, but first impression is that its a Ferrari with two speeds: 1st gear and 5th gear. Im guessing that Hermann may be on the autism spectrum.
I think Rahmann is technically a French band, at least they were based in Paris for most of their existence, although there may have been early line-ups before the main man and guitarist (who, sadly, passed away just last month - he was known in more recent times as Mad Sheer Khan) had settled in France.
I was hoping you were going to mention Iceberg!
Sure enough, 2nd choice.
Thanks for that!
Hi Andy. Amazing list. I have all records from Roland Vazquez. Amazing drummer and arranger. You should check his The L.A. Jazz Ensemble. Here is my list:
David Axelrod - Songs Of Experience (1968)
David Axelrod - Song Of Innocence (1969)
Leb I Sol - Leb I Sol 2 (1978)
Smak - Crna Dama (1977)
Michal Urbaniak - Fusion III (1975)
Wlodzimierz Gulgowski - Soundcheck (1976)
Izvir - Izvir (1977)
Den Za Den (1980)
Etna - Etna (1975)
Napoli Centrale - Napoli Centrale (1975)
Sloche - Stadaconé (1976)
Maneige - Les Porches (1975)
Hermeto Pascoal - A Música Livre De Hermeto Paschoal (1973)
Annette Peacock - X-Dreams (1979)
Back Door - Back Door (1973)
Björn J:Son Lindh - Ramadan (1971)
C.C.P.P. - Ceccarelli - Chantereau - Padovan - Pezin (1975)
Curt Cress Clan - CCC (1975)
Emil Viklický, Bill Frisell, Kermit Driscoll, Vinton Johnson - Okno (1981)
Eugene McDaniels - Headless Heroes Of The Apocalypse (1971)
James Vincent - Culmination (1974)
Jay Richford & Gary Stevan - Feelings (1974)
Jeremy Steig - Temple Of Birth (1975)
Joachim Kühn - Hip Elegy (1976)
Max Middleton, Robert Ahwai - Another Sleeper (1979)
Mingo Lewis - Flight Never Ending (1976)
Patrick Vian - Bruits Et Temps Analogues (1977)
Pedro Ruy-Blas - Luna Llena (1975)
R. M. Točak - R. M. Točak (1979)
Screaming Headless Torsos - Screaming Headless Torsos (1995)
The Section - Fork It Over (1977)
Secret Oyster - Sea Son (1974)
September - Zadnja Avantura (1976)
Space Circus - Funky Caravan (1978)
Terje Rypdal - Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away (1974)
Tihomir Pop Asanović - Majko Zemljo (1974)
William S. Fischer - Circles (1970)
Don Cherry - Here & Now (1977)
Dick Morrisey & Jim Mullen - Cape Wrath (1979)
Time - Time (1972)
A lot of them, but they are all great.
Osti Jarej.
Another great video 😎
Andy thanks for sharing this, there are some names to remember, but I still wonder if aliens come to visit us in the near future ,they would not understand why we are so fascinated with different forms of vibrating air ?
szobel´s album is on you tube too