Setting up a New PM-940M Milling Machine - Unboxing, Moving and Assembly
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2020
- What's in the box? A new Precision Matthews PM-940M milling machine. We'll crack open the crates, rig the machine for lifting, and get it moved into position and ready to run.
This machine is a beast, and 1000lbs swinging from a Harbor Freight shop crane is no joke. But with careful planning and execution, and a little creativity, it can be done safely.
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It might have seemed like one of the more mundane sections of the video, but showing step by step how you performed the lifting and maneuvering was very educational for those of us who might not have tackled that task before and would be concerned how feasible it is.
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Any package marked "Fragile" seems to be a challenge to a shipper and translates to "Throw harder" in Shipperese.
Spiffy mill James, good video too. Everything I have read on imported gear head machines indicates its worth cracking the gearbox open to check for leftover casting sand and manufacturing chips. Have fun.
No kidding, we just returned a wrong shipment of fragile building materials and the guys that picked it up were literally throwing the boxes into the back of the truck. No telling how much damage was done to the product, thank fully we took pictures of the product minutes before they started loading and we already have or refund.
Very interesting I have a Titan machinery mill here in the UK that in many ways the same as this but without the motorised up and down and cross feed
Well, think of it this way: The base casting got bounced around enough that it is now probably stress relived. May you and your family have a wonderful Christmas!
This looks like a good solid manual mill. It's a good thing the mill protected all that loose foam sheet packing so it wasn't damaged in shipping.
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Bouncy bouncy! Let's bounce the new mill as hard as possible!
Kind of reminds me of the problem a computer manufacturer had when they discovered that a very large part of their warranty repairs consisted of reseating some chips in a certain model of computer. To solve this they immediately designed a way to secure the chips in the sockets and implemented it. Then someone did a study of the manufacturing and saw a forklift do a jump when driving over a sill as he was loading a pallet of new computers. The boxes all went airborne before crashing back down on the pallet. The truck driver thought nothing special of it and had the technique pat down to keep everything landing in good order, but the whole computer case got jarred and temporarily twisted slightly. It was enough to make the chips creep just slightly out of their sockets and in some cases they moved enough that the computer either failed when first powered up by the customer or it would do so a month or so later...
Very nice addition to the shop, really appreciate all the camera angles and effort during the unboxing, defiantly entertaining content and look forward to what you can do with the new machine!
Outstanding and congratulations James! I have the PM-835S and couldn't be happier. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. Thanks for sharing!
Cheers, that was really helpful for someone just 📕 learning in the sense of seeing it unpacked and craned into position and looks like a beast of a machine, enjoy!
I am a 37 year CNC machinist and you just taught me more than all those years. I love all you hobby machinists. Your're all just bad ass. Keep 'em coming. I add this knowledge into my CNC work. It works.
Looks like a pretty nice mill. I’ll stay tuned to see it performs as good as it looks. Thanks for sharing without music playing in the background.
Thank you so much for showing the step by step, from disassembling the box and especially about the care with the lifting !!!
Very useful .
Congratulations from Brazil
You've moved up a step in my book! Great upgrade! I have the baby brother to the 940, I have the 932 and its a great machine. Have fun moving it!
" Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's milling machine" 🤣
I won't believe me
Well done. Everything in place, and nobody squished.
Exciting to get a new machine, must feel like a whole world of difference from your G0704. I went from a Little Machine Shop 4700 micro mill to a G0704 (used) and it was a nice upgrade for me, I installed the power feed and power lift because hand cranking was getting very old, I did put a DRO with glass scales on it too.
Congratulation on your new machine and I share that excitement with you. Can't wait so see you put it to good use. As always, your videos are super great.
Nice to have help. I did the same thing 8 years ago alone
Side note from experience (and a common problem) Open the electrical panel and make sure things are tight or prepare to be replacing a lot of burnt up wires!
The wiring looks way cleaner than I was expecting, but checking the torque on the terminals is a good call.
I did some checking this morning, and everything looks good.
As a G0602 owner and a PM727m owner...I'm excited to watch!
The smile in the beginning and the WD-40 smile really cracked me up :)
Great content as usual. Looking forward to seeing it in action
Thanks! I’m going to be tackling this (with their smaller 728) next week. Super helpful to see the whole process moving the machine, plus a very enjoyable video as well!
Nice mill, I have a similar model from Grizzly, less the power downfeed which was not an option when I purchased mine. I installed a DroPros two axis DRO with magnetic scales and I love it. Absolutely spot on for precision drilling.
Great job on the de-palleting and installation, nice machine, accessories packing is abysmal.
Great vlog thanks for sharing.
Best regards from the UK.
Just received a PM 1236 Lathe in November (similar weights in the machine and pedestals) and had to move it from my garage out around the side of my house, which is down hill to the basement level back door, in through the door, across the Family Room, down the hall, and into my workshop. Watching you guys jockey that mill around your garage, I'm thinking "lucky SOB"...congrats on the new machine.
Thanks! I'm not sure the floors in my house would support a machine of that magnitude.
@@Clough42 Neither would mine, but the basement is concrete floor.
Congratulations on your great new machine. Looks really great,
Always exciting getting a new machine. Will expand your capabilities no end 😁👍👌
Sweet new toy I look forward to seeing your projects unfold using it
I bought that same model about 5 years ago, I like my gear change knob locations better, they face the front instead of the side. It needed a gooseneck work light, that was added later. Shars is a good source for tooling. Adapters run morse #2, #3 drills. I ordered the collet set to make use of end mills and annular cutters. I like your nice roomy shop....
Last month: I finally got rid of all the woodworking equipment.
This month: We used cut and drilled wooden blocking to lift the crane. We used cut and stacked wooden blocks to hold the mill off the floor.
Ironic.
And I'm jealous. I hope you and yours have a safe and happy holiday!
Congratulations James!
Real nice mill. I was worried about lifting head and jack staying down on floor. All went well. Thank you for sharing.
I love the bubble wrap packing in the mill head crate. I mean,it could have been damaged beyond repair if were not for the token piece of bubble wrap 😂😂
Looks like a very nice mill. Nice job getting it in place.
Looks great James. I have a PM-949 TV with the 4 axis DRO from DRO Pros. Excellent choice.
Congratulations on the new mill. I my self just bought a 12X36 Premium Mathews lathe. I have yet to mount it on the stand so its not running yet. I bought the 2 hp 3 ph. and am looking for a VFD when I found your videos and started watching. Thanks for the great ideas .
Very nice addition to your shop!
Now that is a serious bit of kit for a home workshop. Been looking at some of your very first videos and how things have changed and evolved. Your presentation, filming, sound and staging have all improved dramatically. It is very interesting to see what a difference the use of a plain and tidy stage backdrop has done to give the videos some real professionalism. Multi-cameras and split sound really shows on the later videos, congratulations.. Looking forward to seeing what you are going to attempt on the big mill. Have a good Christmas, stay safe and keep the videos coming (Love the long multi-part projects).
Great, because the DRO for this mill is going to be a lot of work. :)
always fun moving a milling machine.. i had one this size transported sideways in the back of my car.. was a 4 hour move from its old place to where it is now.. impossible to do without a engine lift lol
when I got mine I drilled 4 holes through the base, ran 2 lengths of rebar through the holes, lowered the head as far as it would go, the put the lifting straps around the bars. Easy to drill being cast iron, some brands come with holes already in the sides of the base.
I have that same HF engine crane but optioned it with the air powered hydraulic vs manual cyl - its wonderful! Also added 100 lb counterweight ballast.
Been going through your back-catalog of videos and really enjoying them. This was really similar to my receiving a Tormach SlantPro lathe and 440 Mill.. shipped to Canada. Luckily the lathe and mill and tools were all OK, but all the pallets, wood, boxes, were in splinters.
Hi, took delivery of the very same model (different colour of course)on Friday last but with the DRO option. So this video is of great interest to me as I have got to go through the same process. Unfortunately I do not have the room you have but very useful to see how it all goes together and how it operates. regards
Great video! Nice mill! Nothing like new stuff! Good luck with your purchase! 👍😎
I bought a PM 932M 2 years. I was using an engine hoist to lift the mill off the pallet stack.... and the hoist collapsed/tipped.
I utterly destroyed the mill control, the motor capacitors, etc.
Sent PM a detailed list of what I needed, they express shipped the replacement parts, sent me detailed schematics, etc.
Took me a while to work up the nerve to tear the controls off, but my mill is up and running. Absolutely LOVE my PM mill!
Congrats for Your new mill!
My Hafco 46 arrived a month ago, same machine, different badge. I love it, and yes, I too told myself It would remain a manual machine. A month ago ;)
Great mill! Congratulations. Will be fun following along with your adventures. Merry Christmas!
You can double or triple the paper thickness on the gears if you want it more accurate.
Paper is great for shims if there is enough bearing area, and it's tolerant of slight dirt because it embeds without affecting the shimming height.
Congrats on your new acquisition!
Only thing better than getting a new mill is watching someone else setting up their new mill..lol. That is a really nice addition to your shop.👌🏻🇺🇸
This is Matt, Owner of Precision Matthews. A couple of people emailed us today about this video and alerted me to it. I tell you what, I am PISSED those accessories arrived like that. The foam didn't hurt anything, but What the heck is it even there for? Talk about embarrassing, I am going to be on a rampage Monday Morning when I figure out who did that. I understand that people are not going to care as much as I do, but I am really at a loss for how to explain that one. That is not how we are supposed to ship things at all.
This is my view on it:
1. Those accessories should have been boxed, not just put in the base like that. Like What in the heck is that
2. But, even without boxing, for that to happen to the boxes and the clamp set to break open like they did, it had to be one heck of a ride, or possibly the base flipped over at some point which I think is more likely. Thankfully its cast iron so if there was damage to the base it would be obvious, but be sure to check it out, if there is anything wrong there that will also be taken care of. The crate and pallet look good though, they do not look like that happened. But those boxes were definitely not like that when they were put in (Although not packaged properly)
3. We may be one person short on Monday.
I am looking through the orders and I think I know which order it was (No real name in here so not 100% Sure) I do not see any report of the damaged items at all though, please email me at sales@precisionmatthews.com or give me a call 412-787-2876 so we can get that taken care of for you. If you did report it, please let me know who you talked to if you know or which email you sent it to.
Anything that is less than perfect needs to be replaced, it looks like a drill chuck, and clamping set.
I am really sorry that you had to receive it like you did, I should not have to be making an apology, this never should have happened. Really less than 5 minutes or less to pack those things in a box is all it would have taken. let me know what we need to do to make this 100% perfect and I will personally get on it right away. Again, Anything that is not 100% as new needs to be replaced. You paid for new, you need to receive items in new condition.
Matt
Thanks for reaching out. I'll drop you an email.
Hey Matt, just wanted to let you know how great I think your response was to this problem! Have a good one
Have owned a number of mills snd Precision Matthews are my all time favorite. Lucky, Iucky😊😊😊😊
Thank you Dick, I do have some work to do this week though with what happened with this shipment, not good for us at all.
Hi James. In the UK I have the same mill but branded Warco. Had it a year and very pleased but you will need to make new knobs for tightening the gibbs. The little lever type ones supplied are not fit for purpose and you will probably find that the ones that tighten the X axis catch on the ways when moving the table away from you on the y. Enjoy. All the best. Jim.
Nice video very interesting for me as I have just order new mill for my shop due end January 2021 , bit small but will have same problem unboxing and putting it together. Now I know what to do thanks to your video.
Nice new machine. Looking forward to new videos using it!
James you do such a great job on the videos. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas!
One great thing with a new small mill, you can add a Mini pallet system that covers the X and Y surface area of the milling table, that way you have the option to move your milling vise and even add a second vise that will be perfectly aligned with the first one.
All I want for Christmas is bigger/more chips!! What a nice upgrade and great video. I have the small version PM mill and had the same issues with the packaging. Mine came a year ago so it seems consistency is on their side!
The advantages of being in climate that allows a shop in the garage. And here I was looking at 2 feet of snow on the ground last week
Lining the mill base and stand up take for bolts and cut the heads off. Use those as guide studs when setting on the stand
This is the most detailed mill uncrating and installation video that I've found -- and I got some good tips and detail w/r/t the hoist repositioning. My PM-30MV is arriving this afternoon (yeah!). It's much lighter than yours of course, but I'll still have the issue with the HF hoist legs not being able to straddle the pallet. My thought/hope is to ask the Saia delivery guy to unload the pallet directly onto the legs of my hoist out in the driveway, then wheel it into the garage like that. Hopefully I'll still have enough lift to get it off of the pallet and onto the stand from there.
I also asked the PM folks to mark the top of the crate with an X to show where the front of the mill is facing so that I can get it onto the engine hoist legs oriented the proper way. Let's see if they actually do that X for me. If not, it may require a lift, swivel, drop, and lift again to get it turned the right way.
lovely little machine
well done
Right when he smiles I wish I was there to say "And you'll eventually find the X&Y are out of alignment" lol. Sucks, I had a PM45M CNC that was also "springy" on the column which lead me to sell it as the cut finish looked like a beaver chewed it into shape. I spent countless hours trying different collets, clocking collets, clocking bits, 2 flute, 3 flute, 4 flute, TRN, TiCN, HSS, carbide, 1/4 to 1" , stickout, locking dovetails on Z and Y axis then doing a cut, locking Z and X then doing a cut, adjusting the gib on the one axis I did leave unlocked, hundreds of RPM to feed ratios, different aluminum stock vendors, light pass with spring cut, heavy pass with several spring cuts, climb mill and conventional, checking runout on R8 taper, checking for slop or bad bearings in spindle and probably 500 photos comparing all the various finishes. Had a rough time getting others with similar machines to even post close up photos so I could compare my finish texture with theirs although everyone had an opinion and of course theirs was fine...lol. I can now tell you a G0704 delivered better cuts at 1/3 -1/4 the weight and a wacky column mounting method.
Great video, it's definitely one of the more interesting unboxing videos.
Congratulations to getting the new milling machine into position.
I hope the precision drill chuck still lives up to its name after this abuse.
At 8:00 I was a bit afraid about Jason's hand though. A loop that is soon to be under load might not be the safest thing to put your hand through...
Great vid, and kudos to your friend. Always good to have an extra set of hands when needed.
A good friend willing to push a something heavy hanging from an engine hoist is priceless.
Seems to be a nice mill.
Packaging problems aside, I hope it works as well as it looks.
James, I have a 940m as well. I am in the process of a cnc conversion. I go a little sidetracked with a quadruple bypass but am in the process of getting it up and running. I built my own feet with hockey pucks and 1/4" stainless drops I bought from ebay. The feet turned out very well. I also took the mill apart and used a needle scaler to remove all the bondo that is used on these machines. I removed about a full gallon of bondo from the mill and base. The needle scaler removed all the bondo and paint very well and quickly. I blew up my cheap used air compressor and had to buy a new one. lol I was pleasantly surpised that the castings looked pretty good and wondered why they used so much bondo. I then repainted everything with POR primer and paint.
The machine isn't as heavy as they claim but still is heavy. Here is what the parts weight. But my machine is the basic model with hardwaysand doesn't have the control box, control head or the z and x power feed motor like yours so your will be a little heavier.
As for the mill;
mill base 130
column 144
spindle head 185
Z saddle 34
motor 40
X table 131
Y saddle 48
mill total 712
As for the bottom stand 310
Total weight 1022
COVET! That was also the smoothest setup I've ever seen.
Sweet little mill.
Scary, glad you got it moved. #1 cross your straps so there is always force tightening them, if it slipped they would both come off.#2 always assume the thing your lifting will fall - put a 4x4 under it when you put on the feet! If it fell you would save a hand. Speaking of hands - your friend was lucky it didn’t weight more when his hand was in the strap!
Enjoy your videos!
Congratulations on the early Christmas present.
Not sure where you live but if that had to travel through Shreveport LA. It wouldn't surprise me if it were tipped over sideways. I moved from Texas to the East coast and back and all of the damage sustained was coming through Shreveport on I20.
I feel like you will enjoy the mill and customer service from PM. I have a 1236 lathe and their bench top mill and would do it again because they are incredible to work with.
Thanks for the heads up. I've been thinking about buying a PM mill. I still am but I need to rethink where I put it
Great packaging!😲😲😲
James,
Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Take care
Paul,,
Nice machine. Envious. Enjoy your new machine. Hope to see it in action soon.
James, Thanks for this video, it came right on time to me. Monday Dec. 21, 2020 I am receiving my PM833 TV so your video is extremely helpful. Congratulations in your new mill.
I just got a PM-833TV about 2 months ago...absolutely LOVING this machine! You will definitely enjoy the machine. It is very good quality.
@@justindewoody Thank you Justindewoody for your note.
I have watched most of your videos, I always enjoy it
Most delivery guys are like the road runner as soon as it is off the truck, well done that man.
Nice Mill, love the 14"'s on the Y Axis!
Suffering from serious mill envy. May have to see my therapist. Actually I don't have enough clearance in my shop to fit it in. Your uncrating and setup went unbelievably smooth.
Che macchina spettacolare!!! Grande James. (what a spectacular machine, great James) Ciao
I know exactly what you have been through. I too recently purchased a smaller version of the same mill at 120Kg and it took me a month to get it off the floor onto its final table. I couldn't get an engine lifter under the machine. I ended up getting a hydraulic table which when lowered was about 12"off the ground and a bunch of strong guys were able to get it up onto it then lift the table and slide it over, mine was no where near as heavy as yours and it was very difficult.
I got simmilar machine. I was trying oto make Z axis engine but i was using the crank side to attach motor. After your video I also find that my machine could be connected from top :D thank you!
Nice informative video. Thanks for sharing.
I am impressed with the features of your mill. PM does have nice machines… I have a 1640 TL lathe. It’s heavy and I’m liking it so far. I did not expect your mill to come with power down feed on the quill… I like your mill. Nice buy!!
Great video as usual. Also, jealous! Looks like a pretty nice mill.
Monster travel distances! Up there with many turret mills!
31 years as a cabinetmaker have a pretty ok woodshop at home - for fun. I see a giant hole in my shop now - thanks
I hope one day to have a garage with milling machine and metal lathe. The hobby is the most fun to me you could have. Super jealous of your new toy
Very neat, apart from the packaging. I have the PM25, their smallest mill and couldn't be happier. 3 years old and nor one problem and runs almost silent up to 750rpm. Have fun, thanks.
me too, though looking at this bad boy and realizing its only a couple thousand more, i kinda feel like i should have gotten this instead
Not to be a youtube safety guy, but this may help some folks. When lifting with those straps around the base it is a good idea to lift just enough to tension the straps, and then use chain or something around the separate straps to prevent them from spreading and slipping off the ends of the table.
I like to place the pallet on the legs of the lift and then lower the load onto it and then roll it around, especially top heavy loads.
Lastly, never put any body part under any hanging load. Block it up, or at least put a non-crushable object under the load that is thicker than said body part. Hate to see you loose some fingers because a strap slips or the hydraulics give out (not that the HF lift is sketchy, I love mine).
I have a PM 45M and raised it to make it more comfortable to use. I wish I had raised the mill from the base like Pragmati Lee did when adding a new x-axis power unit. That extra room would make it much easier to lock the y-axis.. Granted you would want to cut a piece of sheet material to keep dwarf from migrating into your cabinet also. Just some to think about when installing your dro. It gets crowded on the lower right side.
Very nice machine little bit off envy ;-) Keep up the good job and dont forget to share everything. Merry Christmas to you and your family! Be safe. Kind regards Gert
Good luck with the new mill James. May it put plenty of chips on the floor for many years to come.
Ohhhh that is a beast!
I am so envious of what you have it is encouraging me to work towards building my own mill witch you know about and I'm slowly getting there ONE thing I won't build my self but I want /need is a sheet metal break like you have I never seen it if you have said who made it if you could let me know it would be nice and il give credit to anything I do buy to you with who I get it from. Thanx again James.
I laughed out loud at the loose packing material...
I yelled
I passed gas.
Great job! (I'm envious!)
dude.. the envy is real. congratulations!!!
Great job!!!
I hope you call Matt and discuss the poor packing.
looks like if the customs boys would have a look in to the box
Precision Matthews is crap with warranty, they pick and chose what to cover for stuff that breaks under warranty.