Why Ellen Burstyn Beat Gena Rowlands at the Oscars
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Ellen Burstyn is one of the greatest actresses of her generation, but she's only won a single Oscar throughout her long and celebrated career. In this video, Cody Dericks from Next Best Picture joins me to break down the Best Actress race of 1974 and the reasons behind Burstyn's victory for Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. #oscars #academyawards #bestactress #ellenburstyn #genarowlands #fayedunaway #theawardscontender
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I thought she absolutely deserved her Oscar. She’s incredible in it. Funnily enough I didn’t know Scorsese directed that movie until recently lol.
Me neither, next to "Boxcar Bertha", it's the only other film he's directed with a female protagonist.
Oh how I love it when you get Cody on the show, the two of you play off against each other so entertainingly.
Gena Rowlands was excellent. This was probably a consolation for losing for the Exorcist. Her reaction at the Oscars in 74 was really suprised.
I'm delighted that Ellen Burstyn has an Oscar, she was amazing in "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore." But I thought that she also deserved the Award for "Requiem for a Dream." No shade to Julia Roberts, but Burstyn's portrayal was so chilling and heartbreaking, as her character literally descends into a shell of her former self, as she accidentally gets addicted to diet pills. 💔😭
Yesss
I feel her role in Requiem was a supporting character and maybe she could’ve won in the supporting category, given how unpredictable the supporting actress race was that year…
The Exorcist Resurrection or Requim she should have won all these. Alice Doesn't Live here Anymore is excellent of course
I agree. I think she was robbed for Requiem.
@@washkoskatshe was phenomenal in Resurrection
I hope you plan to make an Oscar ranking for Ellen Burstyn too!
She's such an extraordinary actress!
R. I. P Gena, a legendary actress.
She should have won for requiem for a dream. She overshadows any of the other nominees
The Exorcist should have been a shoe-in also.
Requiem, yes!
Maybe in the supporting category, she could’ve won…
Laura Linney was just as good.
Ellen Burstyn should have more Oscars, but she has gotten incredible mileage out of her one win. 50 years later she’s as busy as ever, according to IMDb she’s currently directing a film! Side story: Diane Ladd and her 3 nominations, this one she should have won. Discuss.
Loved Claudine.. A sleeper nomination, and a sad one..Dianne Carroll replaced Dianna Sands, who was responsible for getting the movie made, but had to drop out due to her cancer diagnosis.. She passed soon after..
Burstyn deserved the Oscar the previous year for her amazing work in The Exorcist (which should have won Best Picture - The Sting was entertaining but not the masterpiece that Exorcist was.) But she was amazing in Alice as well, although Rowlands and Dunaway were equally good in my opinion.
I agree with all your points. If you asked young people today if they had heard of The Sting, and then asked if they had heard of The Exorcist, the amount of people saying "yes" between the two wouldn't even compare. One is STILL largely famous while the other is mostly known only to older generations and cinephiles.
I would've gone with American Graffiti for BP
You are 100 % correct. The Exorcist is an Absolute Masterpiece. Yes she should have won
I remember seeing "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" when it came out and I was very surprised by the strong performance of the son Alfred Lutter and I think he should have been nominated for supporting actor.
FUN FACT: When Martin Scorsese accepted on Ellen Burstyn's behalf, he said she was doing a play on Broadway. "Same Time, Next Year" opened on March 13, 1975 (less than a month before the Oscars on April 8). I'm sure Ellen wanted to go the Oscars, but she couldn't (her play just opened and couldn't get time off and she probably thought she wasn't going to win). - Then on April 20 (two weeks after winning her Oscar), she wins the Tony Award for Best Leading Actress in a Play for "Same Time, Next Year" and her fellow nominees were Elizabeth Ashley for "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof", Diana Rigg for "The Misanthrope", Maggie Smith for "Private Lives", and Liv Ullmann for "A Doll's House"! - Ellen Burstyn's next Oscar nomination comes in 1978 when she reprises her role in the film version of "Same Time, Next Year".
The 29th Tony Awards (same night Ellen Burstyn wins her Tony Award) has some more fun facts: That was the year of "The Wiz", winning 7 awards (including Best Musical) and Rita Moreno wins her Tony Award for Best Featured Actress in a Play for "The Ritz" and she just two years away from completing her EGOT (when she wins her first Primetime Emmy Award for "The Muppet Show" in 1977).
I loved Same Time Next Year and, although it never escapes its theatrical origins, Ellen Burstyn and Alan Alda make a winning duo, neither one out shadowing the other.
Faye Dunaway is brilliant in "Chinatown."
Do more of your duos! You two make a great team!
I can just watch Cody and Brian talking about the Oscars all day 😂. Love to hear their thoughts on all of the amazing performances and films through the decades 😊
Ellen Burstyn has become my favorite female actress, over the years. Some of her films I initially watched when I was a kid and I didn't get it until I was older and started studying film. Her performance, as I tell anyone who will listen to me (lol), in Requiem for a Dream is in my top acting performances of all time. It is beyond a masterclass of an acting performance.
Michelle Williams has always reminded me of Ellen Burstyn.
Loved, loved, loved Gena Rowlands!!!!
An all-timer lineup, if not the best lineup ever. And three of the best performances of the year--Nichelle Nichols in Truck Turner, Liv Ullmann in Scenes from a Marriage, and my personal winner, Charlotte Rampling in The Night Porter--weren't even nominated!
Brian, i love to see your picks of directors who have never been nominated for an Oscar.
You must been reading my mind. I thought about you reviewing Ellen's win, was it a consolation win for The Exorcist. Gena Rowlands performance in Woman Under the Influence was incredible and many thought she would win.
Diahann Carroll in Claudine is absolutely fantastic and so real and raw.I wish that the movie could had been nominated for maybe best actor for James Earl Jones and maybe best supporting actor for Lawrence Hilton Jacob
A great video on Brian Rowe and Cody Derricks take, My choice would have gone to Gena Rowlands but Ellen Burstyn's Oscar win is just as satisfying as well as deserving, I wish there was a tie that year between the two of them. By the way, the husband in Alice Doesn't Live Her Anymore was killed around 15 minutes into the film.
it really was one of the all-time great years for best actress- such worthy performances, all! 🏆
thanks guys for another fun & informative video- it took me back to that stellar season of exceptional acting! 👍🏼👍🏼
I love when you cover older films, I'm not a fan of most new movies.
Fantastic video, Brian. I adore Ellen Burstyn in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and I love that she won an Oscar for that, as much as Gena Rowlands would have been deserving. Faye Dunaway is such an icon and would have been a great winner (plus I think she's better in Bonnie & Clyde than Hepburn is in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner). And Diahann Caroll was just such an incredible actress, glad she got an Oscar nomination and she's also great in Claudine. It does make one wonder who would have gotten into Best Actress if Valerie Perrine was rightfully put into Supporting since she won Supporting awards at National Board of Review & New York Film Critics Circle. Great video, Brian ❤
It's a very 70s performance - complete antithesis the classical acting of the past. While Rowlands is considered a classic performance in today's world, it had some dectators which included Pauline Keel.
Ellen Burstyn is one of the foremost actresses who earned this win.
Whata a wonderful actress 🔥❤️
It was like a "Sorry Oscar" for her. Same kinda that went also to Cher and Julianne Moore!
Award worthy, fine performance but Ellen's been so robbed of the Oscar the prior year for Exorcist......
Agreed, it was a Consolation Award if I ever saw one, and though Ellen did a wonderful job in "Alice", she likely should have won for "Exorcist."
@@trinaq or Requiem for a dream...... that was Julia's "Sorry Oscar"!
Gena Rowlands is my choice. I love the Alice performance, I think the main reason she won was the nomination for The Exorcist the week before.
The year before? 😉
@@oscarman42 Yes.
I don't care much about awards, but I still love nearly every video on this channel.
Thats gena rowland oscar!!!!
I’m glad she won this year. She is one of our greatest living actors. I still can’t get over the fact that she lost for Requiem For a Dream. That performance is in my top five of all time.
Liv Ullmann robbed of a definite nomination but for their stupid rule. Many actresses launched a campaign to have the rule ended so Ullmann could be nominated, there was a write in protest and among those who added their names? Gena Rowlands and Ellen Burstyn. I think Ullmann would have been in the mix. Personally my choice would have been Gena Rowlands I wish she would have won. Burstyn should have maybe won for Resurrection and definitely won for Requiem For A Dream.
While I am a big fan of Ellen Burstyn and think she was robbed of her rightful Oscar for ‘Requiem for a Dream,’ her performance in ‘Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore’ just wasn’t as strong as Gena Rowlands’ in ‘A Woman Under the Influence.’ Gena got robbed that year, plain and simple. The fact she only has an Honorary Oscar is a crime!
I was a big fan of Ellen Burstyn and her film that year (in fact, I think a strong argument could be made for giving Best Supporting Actress to Diane Ladd for playing ‘Flo’) as well as Faye Dunaway in ‘Chinatown’ and Dihanne Carroll in ‘Claudine,’ none of these performances rises to the level of Gena Rowlands’. Unfortunately, as we well know, the Oscars has a track record of robbing the better performance or film. Consider that Elizabeth Taylor won for ‘Butterfield 8,’ ‘Crash’ beat ‘Brokeback Mountain’ or that Gena Rowlands wasn’t nominated for Opening Night’ (1979) [although she at least got a Golden Globe nomination even if it was in the Supporting Actress category, which makes zero sense].
Ellen should have two Oscars-one for ‘The Exorcist’ and one for ‘Requiem for a Dream’ whereas Gena Rowlands should have at least one for ‘A Woman Under the Influence.’
One of my favorite best actress winners.
Burstyn also lost to Marsha Mason in 1973 for Cinderella Liberty
So Mason could have been number 2 for all you know
She should've won for Requiem for a Dream. She was good in the Alice movie, but she was outstanding in Requiem. The fact Julia Roberts won over Burstyn that year shows the Academy have an ulterior motive of bias towards their A-list stars.
Julia was a movie star back then.
She was hot back then.
They were itching to give her an oscar
@@singstreetcar5881 Definitely looked that way.
I have always enjoyed this film, but I never quite thought Burstyn was good enough to win an Oscar for it. The one performance that definitely should have won was Diane Ladd as Flo.
"I'll be back here so soon!" - I am DEAD!!!
Brian, i like to see your takes on other categories of Oscar, besides acting.
Can you do one for the same year for Best Actor of 1974. Art Carney won and he was up against some heavy hitters such as Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, Albert Finney, and Dustin Hoffman. It can be called "Why Did Art Win?!"
Art won because he was sublime as Harry. The art that disguises its own art.
My goodness, the difference in quality back then. Hollywood movies were at their most artistic and interesting in the late 60s to early 80s. Can you imagine this line up of performances today? I cant😂
A great win. And solid lineup. I’d love to have seen Ladd win too. Her supporting turn is terrific in its crudeness and poignant moments. Ingrid did not deserve that award.
Thank you.
1. Don't you think that Woman Under was an independent film that decreased Gena's chances?
a. Warner Brothers released Alice.
2. Both films made back their budgets. Alice made 10 times and Woman made six times their budgets.
I'm glad to know that I'm not the only person with disdain for The Towering Inferno.
One word: Boxoffice!
I've seen none of these movies (yet), but I enjoyed the discussion.
Easter Egg: At 12:35, check out a young Laura Dern (with glasses) in the background. Fun! Mom Diane Ladd played Flo.
Also, Alice does get her son to Monterey by the end of the film. Check out the hotel sign in the final shot.
Note: 1974 was a bleak year for actresses as most films had male protagonists. Women were pissed! Maybe why Perrine was in Best Actress?
Brian, you mention that Scenes from a Marriage didn’t get nominated because it was on Swedish television. However, years later, Fanny and Alexander was also first on Swedish television yet it won 4 Oscars. Can you explain how that happened? Thanks.
And she should have won her second Oscar for Requiem for a Dream.
My ranking of this category:
1. ELLEN BURSTYN, Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore
2. GENA ROWLANDS, A Woman Under the Influence
3. VALERIE PERRINE, Lenny
4. DIAHANN CARROLL, Claudine
5. FAYE DUNAWAY, Chinatown
A very, VERY STRONG category. Everyone are win worthy.
All of Ellen’s nominations are great and I think she should have won for Exorcist and Requiem. She has an interesting distinction (shared with Glenn Close I suppose) of being in second place at least three times (The Last Picture Show, Exorcist, Requiem).
70s was a time when we talk about how women juggle their relationships with men through various social institutions if society like family, career, and cohabitations
Gena was robbed so hard.... :(
make sure to do a review of this years's venice and tiff lineups.
I really like the movie. Alice doesn't live here anymore, the other lady that played the waitress was really good too
Carey Mulligan's elusive Oscar could be a fun video to watch!
Hi, I’m Troy McClure. You may remember me from such films as Alice Doesn’t Live Anymore….
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Please do Jessica Lange's win for Leading Actress Oscar win for Blue Sky (1994) considering the film sat in a bank vault for four years due to bankruptcy proceedings with Orion Pictures.
Valerie Perrine would have definitely won Best Supporting for Lenny if she had been placed there
She won most of the main critics awards for that performance in Supporting that year
I think her winning Lead Actress at Cannes that year is what propelled the studio in pushing her for lead, since it was not a box office hit
Love Burstyn and Rowlands. Both could have won. Love Burstyn even more in Requiem of a Dream; however, that was such a hard film to watch. Still riveting!!
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My favrite film and performance 😍😍😍in oscar
I looooovvvvvvveeeee this film in actross category 😍😍😍❤♥♥❤❤❤
Thank you brian to rememer it ❤😍👍❤👍😍
Please make video ranking Oscar Best picture in 2010s❤
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Diahann Carroll went against type she usually played middle class black women like Julia and she surprised everyone when she played a woman on welfare in the ghetto the director was hesitant about casting her she didn't deserve to win but it was a well deserved nomination
I agree. Scorsese's best female film (Age of Innocence?). Also, contrast with Ridley Scott's Thelma and Louise. A domestic drama better than Soderbergh's Erin Brokovich.
Young martin scoresere looking so handsome when he was young.
Rowland was always sort of an outsider in Hollywood, a little too indie- she never did much to garner goodwill in the town- and Sally Field nailed it- they have to like you- really like you. Burstyn just had a one two punch with Last Picture Show and The Exorcist. AND- they liked her. Plus- didn't she help secure financing for this film- doing the Exorcist/a 2 picture deal to help get it made? Hollywood loves someone who stuck their necks out to get a film made.
I would have given Diahann Carroll as second, but the through line of working women contending with romance was an overall theme for Academy recognition, but implicit industry bias and Ellen's previous nominations did signal a win.
As for Martin Scorsese, it just has to be said he does not write women well. At all. It was Burstyn's rising stardom and professional reputation that helped her win that Oscar.
Ellen was on Broadway/stage... I guess she was doing "Same Time Next Year' at this time.
Correct
Oh this movie is very much a Fosse directed film
Just like Cabaret, he loves his closeups
I love Ellen has an Oscar.. I wish it had been for The Exorcist
Sorry. Gena was ROBBED!!
Ellen is amazing in Resurrection (nominated 79-80) what do u think
The narrative is an absolutely amazing narrative. However, i have to say... the narrative, on a dictionary, may show us other narratives.
I prefer the TV series ALICE over the movie lol especially the theme song
I don't enjoy Cassavetes films they're always well acted like A woman under the influence but I find them a little weird and somewhat boring Ellen deserved to win she's a phenomenal actress
Excuse Me
At the Globes that year
Chinatown won
Best Drama Film
Drama Actor
Best Director
Best Screenplay
Godfather Part 2 Got Skunked
I still think Ellen Burstyn was robbed a year earlier. Also, it's hard to take her performance here seriously when I have the comedy series on dvd. So that 1974 Oscar win......Kiss my grits!!! 😅
Ugh I want it to be just you sometimes haha more and more that’s not the case 😢 no offense but subscribed to you lol
Couldn't agree more. She should have won for Requiem. Big mistake...Huge!
Sorry but do not agree with you about Gena Rowlands. Saw this movie when it first played and thought the performance was way over-the-top and far too mannered. Saw parts of it on TCM a while back and still feel that way. Perhaps its praise is more of an east coast New York thing since I don't think its nearly as revered here on the west. How Cassavetes got in for his hand-held out of focus direction is still a mystery.
Alice Doesn't Live here Anymore opened right at the end of year to qualify for Oscars. many references consider it a 1975 release when it opened generally in February right around nomination time.
Xers. Nothing more to say.
How about Grace Kelly winning over garland? That was a joke.
Unless you work for Price Waterhouse, you CANNOT know who was close to winning
ANY NOMINEE is close to winning LOl
Please stop saying that line
I think she deserved it plus it was helped by her momentum and loss for The Exorcist in 1973.
My winner would be Perrine who I think is Lead,I admire Gena but find her and her film exhausting and sometimes she's doing too much ACTING,I don't think Gena's is one of the best ever,Dunaway is iconic in Chinatown but I prefer her in Network,last is Carroll and she's also worthy but the movie's too small to win.
If we are honest, Burstyn should have won the year before for the Excorcist, Faye Dunaway in Chinatown was Way better than her, while Gena Rowland's gigantic interpretation has gone down in history of acting, simple like that. Also, all the complaints about "the narrative" of the movie... Cassavetes' was a truly indie filmaker, he wasn't building traditional narratives.
Gena Rowland's performance was greatly overdone. Ellen Burstyn was much better and clearly deserved to win.
Well, that was her character
She was a manic depressive
That was the point lol
I'm saddened by your commenting on A Woman Under the Influence. Thumbs down.
I disagree, Peter Falk was very good
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First.