This Is NOT A Helix (So Why Does Everyone Care??!)
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The fact that Mike Cole used part of my video in his video quite literally made my week.
Great work as always dude - your content is killer, engaging, and educational!
And that, Mike, is precisely why, a few years ago, I bought a used Line 6 M3 unit to go on my pedalboard - the ability to add something unusual, rare or outrageous to my sound, without filling up even more space on the board. Or getting a bigger board. Not gonna upgrade to this, mind - the M3 still hits all of my not-so-subtle requirements admirably.
Makes a lot of sense to bring to gigs as a safety net, especially if you have a setup where you can easily move it to one or two different spots on your loop.
It's cool to get 250+ Effects at that price. Even though the unit can only play one effect at a time, a Line 6 Rep pointed out that there are some paired Effects that combine controls into one Effect, like Delay with Reverb, and Distortion with Boost. The HX One would be even more useful if pairing Effects became standard, kind of like Twin Pedals.
I'm really considering grabbing one of these, and I'm usually not someone who likes menu diving or multi-effects. It would allow me so many effects without having to dedicate spots for each effect. Potentially saving a lot of money.
I find this really interesting. To your point about being able to control one specific thing that you may need, I think one of the other side benefits is it allows you to offload that one thing saving processing resources if using a modeler.
My first thought with this was i bet hx stomp users would love this. I see alot of stomp users saying they occasionally run into dsp issues. This would open up alot depending what effect you used in the HXOne
Thanks for the information. I’m so new to this world and have made do for three years with a Fender Mustang GTX50 as my everything (similar concept to big brother ToneMaster Pro, but controlled by my iPhone). I just gravitate toward clean tones with a touch of reverb. This HX One pedal seems like it would go great as a chameleon-like add on to any amp system. You’ve got the set up you know and love and … just one more thing.
This was extremely informative and helpful. Thank you, kind human.
This HX1 kind of sounds like what I have setup.
I’ve got an analog amp and a small all analog pedalboard with 4 pedals drive, fuzz, delay, comp (not that order) but I have an eventide H9 as my digital wildcard so I basically get 1 more pedal and it can be anything you can think of. It seems to work really well as a utility pedal. With the cellphone app I can find a sound during a rehearsal relatively quickly and have it on tap
Great video. Probably the best one that actually explained what this pedal is and does.
I've always been somewhat hesitant to dive into this because, as an amp user (without being a purist, though) with a basic collection of pedals, I've never felt the urge to switch to an 'all-in-one' solution and somehow replace all the gear I've painstakingly gathered over time. However, with a continued desire to expand my sound palette, I now feel like this might be a relevant fit for me. Your video has left me feeling much more destined for it and much more inspired to give this product a try. So thanks for that !
Honestly, as a touring guitarist and audio engineer. The only reason to move to an all in one thing is if you're traveling. The beautiful thing is no wires that can go wrong. And cheap an easy travel. If you're giging with an amp and don't have your own guitar techs and tour tech crew with you. Traveling with an amp is not it. Nowadays all the touring guys do it with the all in ones. It's basically a relay midi switcher that has the effects built into it. It saves a lot of money for the none touring guitarist as well. You can essentially have a pro midi relay switcher with a bunch of pedals for a 3rd of the cost. Now the only reason to switch as well is if you're not using any pedals that are unique. For example I have a hybrid board. Meaning my dry is analog for my fuzz, plasma coil, and octave pedal. But all the wet effects are being dealt with by the fm3. The best chorus delay and reverb pedals are already digital. Where the digital fails 90% of the time is dirty tones. like solid state amps. They don't react the same for soft gain. However if you're a metal or grunge player you'll be in heaven. Also the people who like staying on clean with no distortion that's where the solid state and all in one rigs excel. Understand that the Fm3, Helix, Kemper, and Headrush boards and racks were never meant to for the in home guitarist. That was never the target, they were made for the idea of traveling and performing live.
I would also like to note that you'll see people complain about the recording process with all in ones when they need to change the tone. Keep in mind none of these guys are trained audio engineers. So when they complain it's because they hate the process of being their own engineer. The fact that you're even in the room during the re-amp process is crazy. That's the engineers job to do behind your back. (Don't tell him we re-recorded his guitar parts through different amps for a better sound because he will get pissed off) As a trained audio engineer I hardly ever have to re-amp. Most of the time it's because people aren't mixing properly (EQ goes a long way) or they aren't tracking correctly. A good tracking engineer is half the battle. Since musicians are having to where all the hats without the proper training, they will bash gear when really its a lack of knowledge. Moral of the story if you don't see yourself touring or playing shows. Enjoy your amp and simple set up. My brother is starting from scratch now. Because he isn't playing shows like me or touring he over complicated his rig. He feels he is tweaking more than playing. And for him who just plays for fun in his apartment. The all in ones will kill the plug and play fun. Don't let UA-cam scare you into something that you don't need. I toured once with a head and cab sold it at the end of the tour 😂 When I tour with a crew I do take my FR speaker for stage noise but if I have to take everything myself for a tour that stays at home. 🤣
The HX Effects might be a better unit for you. You can use the 4 cable method to have the effects both in front of and after the amp (if your amp has an FX Loop).
truth, tour Europe with an Amp pedal, something as the one here a shure wireless pedal built in tuner. @@noelgallard1128
The HX One can be any type of pedal, but the position on most boards will be locked in, probably limiting which pedal type it can be. I'm all in favor of the "just try stuff" but still, re-wiring the pedal board could be frustrating if you're changing its position often. I really like the idea of expanding the HX Stomp (or even the POD Go - with some additional devices) with the HX One. It's the $300 DSP upgrade. Use the HX One in an FX loop and use MIDI to set the pedal type. Now you can get the pedal type you want anywhere in the chain.
To me this could be a good option for POD Go users as it will have all of the HX effects, including some the POD Go doesn't have due to DSP limitation, (e.g., Clawthorn Drive, etc.) The challenge with the POD Go is its lack of MIDI features. It can't send MIDI commands to the HX One on its own (no Command Center or MIDI out option). So you'll need a couple MIDI devices, one to stomp on and the other to operate as a USB host to send MIDI to POD Go and 5 pin MIDI to the HX One. These devices exist, but it's another $150 from what I've seen. So a less ideal solution for POD Go users, but still possible.
You can already run the HX One in mono using 4 cable method and have its position in your rig change dynamically from preset to preset. Eg: poly capo at the front of your chain and then when you switch to delay or reverb it's in your loop instead without any additional hardware or re-wiring.
I need a multi modulation pedal for some things I dont use often (phaser, tremolo, roto) with midi and stereo so its between this, the Mobius or the Wampler Terraform.
It also competes with eventide H-9 which was $699, so being $299 it’s a bargain, but also divorce drop pedal is $200+ so just think how many HX Stomp guys run out of DSP for pitch FX, this solves that
I think I would use the HX One as a kind of an DSP Expander for my HX Stomp to get one more of these high cost Effects like the "Poly Capo" or "Poly Sustain" in the Signal chain. ( sorry for my english I'm from Germany ) nice video ;)
They really thought out the controls - switching between delay ( and other parameters ). It like having the snapshots of the helix.
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Great video as always
Hey man love your stuff !!! Can you review the new swamp ash special
I currently have an HX Stomp and only use it for 2/3 modulation effects and delay. I was thinking of selling it and getting a standalone delay pedal and a Boss md200. But if I used this instead of the md200 I'd have the noisegate and any other effect should I ever need it. And a big plus with this over the Stomp is that I can change parameters quickly without going into a menu.
Multi pedals are a must for me. My current big board has an ehx holy stain, ehx turnip greens, an obne excess v1, and a colour box on it. It pays to have pedals that can quickly change your whole tone in drastic ways. I traded my empress zoia which I may regret one day but that solved all my problems for a while. I really like standalone stuff to like the boss gs-10 or my vox stomplab SE it helps to have the option to add to the flavor. I'd get this line 6 pedal for sure but I may just save for a helix. I like having a few effects at once per pedal
Zoia is my favourite pedal. If I HAD to get by with one pedal, that's the one I'd keep.
Really seems like something you take with you if you prefer regular old stomp boxes and have some effects that don’t get used often or require different voicings but would rather not buy and take along multiple pedals that won’t get much use. Saves money and space on a board and gets you a configurable pedal. Great for the person that may need different kinds of flangers, fuzzes, etc for specific songs but otherwise doesn’t want to go out and buy different types of these pedals. Or as Mike said much less verbosely, a utility pedal.
Love your complete sound!
This is like 8% of a Helix.
It’s not intended to replace Helix or amp sims. HX One is unfairly criticized- it’s competing with the Boss delay/modulation etc. If it didn’t have HX in the name it wouldn’t be criticized.
as a HELIX user, I would absolutely use this. I run pedals before the helix and in both loops and use both loops in parallel constantly. It would be great to pop one of these in one (or both) of the FX loops. It's like am outboard DSP expander.
“Flux” sounds A LOT like Morph on the Kemper Profiler. All that to say, morph is one or my favorite features on the Kemper, so it would be cool to see the whole helix line incorporate this technology.
Use mine as a standalone reverb. I like helix verbs. Works for me.
it would be great if you got a volume pedal for free with each setting - either pre or post. though there is likely a way to do this with midi control of the effect "input" parameter or the like..
Mike, your guitar jam face is classic!
This is like the perfect pedal for all those one off effects you may need for just one song in the set. Instead of buying all those effects individually you can just buy this
Are the HX ONE Reverbs eg dynamic plate/hall etc stereo only or can they be used as mono?
I used to use an M5 as an "Uno Wild Card". This is a great utility pedal, but it would be really cool if it was two in one. Does it have a looper?
The Internet gets so confused. This is an effects pedal. You plug your guitar into it - then plug it into your amp. An effects pedal. There are tons of effect pedals on the market that do one thing. This does one thing - with the option to change that one thing as needed. It's an effect pedal. I got one (on sale) and have been having a lot of fun trying different effects. I think it's great.
Except you can only do one thing at a time.
Owning a few H9s and other multi effects devices this one fits right in,. Great demo and insight!
Sounds like an Eventide H9. I was thinking I could sell my H9 for one of these at the beginning of this video, then you said it doesn't have amp sims. If this thing had amp sims and USB audio I'd switch in a heart beat
This would be the perfect upgrade to my m5 which is pretty much my swiss army knife on my board!
I don't understand all the debate about the purpose of this pedal. Get it if you can imagine a use for it, or otherwise not. I am not a Helix user (but I am open to being one if they finally update it in a Helix 2 with true amp capture and modern touches). I preordered this because it will serve as a midi-controlled chameleon pedal on my travel/practice pedalboard, where I am using Tonex for my amp sounds. And really, I will use it there as a chameleon MOD pedal (for chorus, flanger, phaser, univibe, and filter effects) placed before the Tonex amp pedal . I already have verb and delay covered on the board with other pedals, so I don't need more fx blocks. The HX One just helps keep the pedal count down while not sacrificing sound options for a song here and there that needs something specific.
I saw this and got really excited! I'm taking the mobius off the board and running this for mods and delays!
Same, my long standing Mobius is getting replaced and I get more options plus some additional pedal board real estate
i am an amp user tried effects pedals before but always seems to go back to my orange amp, a multi effects pedal with only effects would be nice, but would need more than one effect at a time though so i idea gets close but not there far as i can see just my thoughts
HX Effects
I have a boss gx-100 and i'm using it as a multi fx pedal and love it. But I just dont see the point of spending 300 dollars on a HX ONE when it can only do one effect at a time. If it were like 100 dollars it would be awsome as you could buy like 4 of them and then build a pretty good pedal board with it.
love your content dude
As a lifelong "analog" and pedalboard guy, this is the first Line6 to appeal to me. I don't necessarily want to commit pedalboard spaces to more situationally used effects like modulation, but i would love the option to have it in the arsenal for a set without blowing up my setup
I got one today, and i like the idea of running two amps while putting this at the end of my chain.
Can i also say that you are a very well spoken young man and you seem to have all of your ducks in a row. I found your presentation very helpful and professional.
300 is too much you can switch from delay to overdrive?
Great video, loved that intro jam. Also, i have a question: How do you feel about Seymor Duncan P Rails (aka, the most versatile pickup ever)? i would LOVE to see a video on them
Im good with my Mooer Prime P2.... still the best for me...
what backing track is that
But I only need one effect for bass?
My Swiss Knife for my pedal board
The hate this thing is getting is a little unfair in my opinion. Yeah it can only do one effect at a time, but thats true of all stomp pedals! The difference with this is it 270 pedals in one. If you need a certain reverb for one song and then a different reveb for another, this can do it. The combinations are endless.
I'm a touring Helix floor user and I'm very considering one as an extension of my Helix as certain effects are limited with the DSP.
Great video. Much love to Line 6!
There is a pedal call Ampero mini, almost the same size and price and you can use 9 effects the same time
Ok but do you think Ampero effects hang with helix? The complex modulated reverbs and delays?
Great video...cuz I'm thinking the same thing
Another good video from Mike.
It is the replacement for the M1 pedal. It is that simple.
M5
one pedal to rule them all 'cause it only does 1 thing @ a time lol this pedal is for stomp box heads like me who want to stay on this side of the multi effects line. take my money! I'm going to midi some tweaked eq's to quickly balance things out when I switch guitars, and also do some special modulation things
I love mine! I’m a pedalboard guy.
My problem with it is that it’s an updated m5 that doesn’t let you stack effects if you could stack pedals it would replace most of my board
What do you mean by "stack" effects? What does the M5 do that this can't?
It's a H5 but with flux, H5 £100. New unit is £250, it's just rehouse with a gizmo, bit of a RIP off
Congratulation for the Helix - that's what I want ($1600) . . . .but I'm a $497 guy . . .so the Line 6 Pod Go is ok - you'll love it, but you really want to spend $1600 for a Helix!!!!
Some of the ranting and raving about this, from well viewed guitar channels, is either intellectually dishonest, or a little ignorant to the loyal following the M5 has. It still lives on tons of pro boards, including by many well known/big time players. This is clearly an updated and more versatile replacement for the M5. For folks claiming "no one asked for this" or yammering on about "who would actually use this" I believe most are being sensational for the sake of it, and creating click bait. I've owned a Helix and an HX Stomp. Neither were my thing. I'm a tube amp guy and that's not likely to change. I don't want to spend hours tweaking those platforms, to sound like my amps and a few pedals. I prefer WYSIWYG in my workflow, or for just relaxing to play. This fits a niche for me, because it gives me a ton of options, for that one off song, or when i'm just in the mood to throw some random effect on to jam, but only takes the space of a regular pedal, using standard 9V power. I'd wager these will sell like hotcakes, because (and this may be shocking to some) not everyone is all in on modeling/profiling, not everyone needs 7 blocks of modulation that no one in the audience will hear, and not everyone wants to give significant real-estate and specialized power supplies space in their rig.
I think it's an interesting idea, but I don't see why I'd spend half the cost of an HX Effects to run one (or two, when paired) effects at a time. The HX Effects can do like six effects in any order, and has snapshots, too.
No stacking? Welp, seems like the trusty old Zoom MS-50 isn't getting replaced.
If you went out and even bought cheap copies of every effect in this thing you’d be looking at thousands, and the helix effects are quite honestly good enough for any application. Although I wish you could load the amp models, even the amps by themselves with a separate IR loader
That being said, if comparing to MS-70CDR...
Be on the lookout for HX AMP with a stereo efx loop
Zach cameo!
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Is this not a Line6 M5
Yes but like the HD500X to the helix, this is the m5 to the Hx One. It has all the upgraded dsp effects from helix
So, it's an HX FX with only one effect at a time?
Huge waste
It reminds of the underrated Hotone Xtomp. It instantly becomes whatever you need from dist, reverb, delay, modulation, and preset combinations of them all. The Hotone Xtomp is very underrated tho..... *Off Topic* man do I hate that pretentious hipster guitar shaking nonsense🤣🤣
For me its the faces 😂 the neck shaking gets a pass if it's organically moving.
@@18JR78What gets me is how so many players slide up or down the neck in between phrases for no reason, like they're trying to be hendrix or something...once you start to notice it, it's hard to ignore
Is thed Hotone Xtomp a MIDI device? I am definitely not going to put an amp on my phone to control a guitar pedal, but if I can do it all through Ableton live that's a different story. An app can control one pedal, and that's ok, but if I can use ableton to sync up my modulation with another player's modulation pedals that's worth it to me.
Oh, he makes faces and moves his guitar! Y'all some shallow, simple motherfuckers.
It's an updated m5
mostly one effect at a time makes it mostly worthless to me. mostly.
line 6 m5 anyone? :P
So your assessment at about the 7:00 mark is just completely wrong/inaccurate. I’m a longtime Helix owner/user and I will be adding these to my gigging boards for more than one of my gigging projects.
You it would NEVER be something a Helix user would want or consider. Many Helix users are not solely reliant on the devices for everything. There are multiple projects I do where I only need one or two effects for the whole night, so it makes no sense to even bring my HX Stomp XL, let alone my Helix. From a power standpoint alone, I can power at least three HX One’s from my power block on my board(s) and not have to use multiple taps or connectors.
Also when stage space is at a premium, the smaller the board, the better in certain scenarios. This helps there as well. If you’re doing a fly date and cartage is an issue, a small board also makes sense. Sure there’s the Stomp but this unit from a board effects position can be much more flexible.
We should avoid discounting a large subset of users before this thing hits the shelf…
I thought this week was all about the boss bp1w? 😂
I can not figure out one good reason for this thing. The "I use an amp" player probably doesn't need a single expensive pedal that has a single mediocre use at a time. It isn't a multi effects pedal, it's a singe effect pedal that you can change to another single effect at a time. Not really very useful. Especially when you consider that most of the effects are not on most peoples list of "best effects." The reverbs are meh, the delays are not "wow" impressive, same for the modulation effects. They're all great to have in one place and programable and available to use in conjunction with all the others. I love my HX Stomp, but I love it because it does all the stuff.
And the "Flux" thing just sounds like snapshots and we get 3 of those on the Stomp so, WTF?
It's confusing because I would think that they'd want to put something like this out as an addition for someone like myself who will use the effects loop on the HX to get more out of it. But even that makes no sense because it's the same effects I already have and I would use up a block to "send" and then I'd get one effect I already have in the one slot I gave up to get it. There's no reason for anyone who already has one of their products to buy this.
They could have put out some next level mad science delay looper that integrates into their products seamlessly and also stands alone, and I'd get one yesterday.
I've got the HX Effects and it's phenomenal but you get so much more usability. I really can't figure out why you'd get the HX1 aside from budget reasons, but then you could get something like a Mooer or Behringer.
"An appetizer". "A gateway". People don't consume gear this way. Such stupid terms to describe something that is 3 hundred dollars. The fact that you can't make effects chains on a single patch on this thing makes it largely useless for live use.
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bro only knows pentatonic
What do you know?
And................?
I know, bro, it's like he only knows seven notes
idc sorry imoits a waste of money all of that money bascially for one effect.I spend almost the same amount and get 4 effects i could use anytime and at same time.
This is a waste of time and money 👎
The first effect he demoed sounded horrible. Was strangled and the tone was not getting through the mix very well without without changing into that firecracker sound. Some of the effects are decent enough I guess. The distortions just sound kind of bad through this.