Another great video. You continue to cover all the bases. One thing I and I'm sure many others would like to know is would a regular sized quad,say 400 to 600 cc engine fit in the box with tailgate down? Thanks
I think you being a dad and have a family really made this video out of the box or sort of. Thanks for make this video from the point of view of a dad along with family. Very nice truck btw!
Hey Todd, appreciate all your recent videos on the Canyon. I’m considering the AT4 and this recent video helps me to get some more perspective on a midsize vs full size truck. I am waffling back and forth between the two. Only issue I have overall with the AT4 config is 8” screen..i think GMC kinda cheaped out on that with only offering the 11” in Denali and AT4 trims. Other than that it looks like a solid truck.
I got a phone call from GM today. I actually lodged a formal letter complaint to them about it. And they called me back. They said they will have more information for me on Monday.
@@ToddCotta interesting, someone was trying to save a buck. I get it for the Chevy, but GMC based on their marketing positioning should have all their screens 11. Gotta think Toyota saw that and went hmmm lets make sure to differentiate ourselves there on the next Tacoma as a + in their column.
@@ToddCotta I'll be very interested to hear what they have to say to you about it. The Canyon AT4 has been my primary focus for my next truck, but I am very disappointed that I can't get the 11" DIC without going to a trim level (like the AT4X or Denali) that I don't want. It's forcing me to reconsider how much I like this model, and whether it will be better to look at the upcoming options from the Toyota Tacoma (reveal coming the 19th of this month) or the new 2024 Ranger (also being revealed officially later this month).
In two weeks Toyota will be introducing the next Tacoma. Probably one of the most important announcements they have ever made. That being said, Yes, the 11 inch screen would be nice, the 8 is good, not great. But that would not stop me from getting my AT4. I am trying everything I can to see if it can be retrofitted. GM made a very bad decision to exclude it on the AT4. Elevation, yes, AT4 it must have it to compete. Have a good evening.
@@ToddCotta thanks again for your very informative videos. I’ll be interested as well to hear GM’s response to you. Please keep us posted. I have the AT4 similar to yours on order with the technology plus package which should have included the 11 inches digital instrument cluster. I’m a software engineer and my guess it is just a matter of software configuration to enable what they call in the owner’s manual the uplevel display to be used instead of the base display.
I remember a decade or more ago. The midsized truck buyers were not worried about child seats fitting. They would give the Honda Ridgeline hell about stuff like this. How comfortable a pickup truck was. How did child seats fit into it.
A decade ago the market was much different. Today the range of truck buyers is much greater and excluding families is losing out on a huge sales opportunity in the truck industry. I remember when extended cab trucks were the bomb, and then 4 door trucks took over. Everything changes. Trucks are now nicer than most sedans, and buyers expect it for the money we are spending. Thanks for commenting!
Not too shabby. My kids are teeny boppers now so a great excuse to move up to a truck. 😅 Current vehicle is 2014 Highlander and my kids hate the third row now. That was my sell to the Mrs. 😅
Yeah, I've been married for 30 years now and luckily my wife lets me do all the car decisions and truck decisions. But our kids are grown now. Thanks for watching
Nice video, very helpful. If you can arrange it, can you possibly do a drag race and rolling race with a Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline? Those are 2 of the fastest midsize trucks, and I’m curious how the Canyon would stack up with its impressive powertrain numbers.
Todd, I really enjoy your videos. When I first saw information on the 2023 Canyon AT4 I really wanted one but the increased price on the new models put them just out of my price range, so I will just have to dream for now.
What is the payload capacity of this truck? I believe it has a premium package and sunroof. So is that impacting the payload capacity? The normal payload capacity for AT4 is 1580lb. I was wondering how it changed with packages and running boards 🤔?
Thank you for that. I saw the canyon/Colorado had the biggest leg room F/R in its class and was curious about rear facing car seats. Im 6'2 myself, so it can be a tight squeeze in some vehicles. We are currently using a 15 Tacoma and its working, and it looks like this canyon would give us more room, but I dont know if it would really be much more. We have a F350 DRW that fits us all very comfortably, but its a big truck around town. So was considering another vehicle in between that would work but not be giant. Thinking a full size truck or mid size SUV may do the trick. Thank you
I am 6/2 also and fit just fine, but if my daughter rides with us 5'6 she sits behind my wife. I do love how easy it gets around town and in parking lots compared to my previous 1500 Sierra and 2500 Ram. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Do you think 2 rear facing car seats and a booster would fit? We have (2) 9 month old twins and a 7 year old. A full size would be nice but it would be my commuter every day vehicle. A Ridgeline makes more sense but these trucks are nice.
Did you try putting the forward facing toddler seat behind the driver's seat and see if there would be enough room with the driver's seat in your desired spot? I have 2 kids, 1 rear facing car seat and 1 forward facing. I assume the forward facing would be better behind the driver
Todd, great reviews. I'm considering buying a Canyon. Really like the truck. The only thing that disappoints me is the apparent lack of a Homelink garage door opener button on mirror or ceiling. Have to dig out my old transmitter and clip it to the visor? My '09 Avalanche has the transmitter button. Really hard truck to replace. Thanks again.
Seems like GM has cheaped out when they could have had hit a home run. I was definitely surprised no home link when I purchased the technology package. Thanks for watching!
Nice video, just a quick question to help all prospective buyers, does the rear seat fold ? Like on the 2ng gen... I see you have button on each of the rear headrest, can you see if the seat back folds like the previous ones? Thank you
Unfortunately NO. That is very disappointing. My Gladiator had foldable and lockable back seat back and that was very cool. They could have easily engineered space back there. Thanks for watching.
Im glad this video review exists, I'm in the market for a truck but I dont need or have use for a full-size truck. But at the same time I need a truck that can be capable of fitting one or two toddler seats in the back. This video does give me hopes in keeping my plans on getting the new GMC Canyon Denali 😊
Hey Todd! Thanks for fielding everyone's questions, I'd like to add to the growing list! 1. With the rear bench seat folded up, how much room is there for a medium/large dog? Is that bottom tray under the bench easily removable for more space? and also 2. Can you shift the car out of park if the key fob is not in the car?
You are not going to be satisfied. There is a huge plastic base with cross bars and the jack area there. I could barely fit a small pistol lock box under there.
Thank you for this video! My husband just purchased this and we’re planning on a family soon so that was a concern of mine if a seat would fit. Thank you! Very helpful!
Hey there, helpful video. how would it be with two booster seats and an infant seat in the back. My wife and I have 3 young kids but this would not be our main family hauler. It would be my car that sometimes would need to drive all three kids around town but not a long haul. I like the idea of a smaller truck (full sized would be great but they are so expensive once speced out) and easier to maneuver. Especially since I already have a Huge family car. Would love your thoughts (or a video?) to see how this might work. Also, I am 5’11” and the wife is 5’1”.
No go for three only about 12 inches between the regular car seats. Three booster seats maybe but not car seats. It's not as wide as a Silverado/Sierra. Thanks for watching!
I’m 6’1” and I currently own a 2022 Tacoma TRD Pro. I’m having mechanical issues with it. So I have a 2023 Colorado ZR2 on order. What’s the seating position like for a taller guy? And how are the seats for comfort?
What a Taco with mechanical issues? Are you spoofing me? :) Sorry to hear about your troubles. :( I am 6'2 and if I put the drivers seat all the way to the rear, I can barely touch the pedals. Granted, there is NO room in the back seat when you do that, but I find it to most comfortable at about 3/4 to the rear with about 5 inches from back seat. To compare it is as comfortable or even more than my 2020 GMC Sierra AT4 was. Overall very comfortable. Thanks for asking!
The Tacoma will RARELY go into high gear. I live in the flattest prairies, truck is completely empty and only me in the truck and never will stay in high gear. The transmission hunts gears all day up and down. My fuel economy is as bad as owning a 3500HD. And I’m not alone. Do a Google search and you will see Toyota “reliability” has gone down severely since Covid.
I am currently doing a review of a 2021 Tacoma. On the freeway on rolling hills, it was lugging and refusing to downshift. Is this normal? Review is coming out. I feel there is more space inside the cab of the AT4. Thanks for commenting!
Hello Todd- another great video- you now have me considering the GMC over the Colorado. My question about the back seat is does the back fold down? I have watched many videos and I have not seen a single one that addresses this- can you check this out? Do you think it’s an option? Thank You!
The back seat does NOT fold down. I don't know why. It is bolted in. My Gladiator had lockable seats and folding, I miss that feature. Thans for watching!
What I believe is happening is when you have folding seats with behind seat storage, you loose interior room, which is a NO GO for many people. It is a trade off that each manufacturer must weigh the needs versus the reality.
Great info as usual. How about the form/function of reaching the brake controller in a panic stop? It looks a bit tucked in front of the left armrest. Thank you!
The trailer break controller? Or E brake? It is just a pull switch next to the shifter. I have driven over a million miles and never once needed to use the e brake while in motion. Just for parking or playing around on a slippery road. Thanks for watching.
@@ToddCotta the brake controller. In the mountains and flat lands when towing, sometimes it's nice to reach down and tap the brake controller to keep control before things may get bad.
It is just below where the light switch used to be. Its not a far reach at all. Just remembering its on the left, and that's pretty much it. I have not used trailer brakes yet with it. Have a good night.
Rory-Not Gail: Hmmm. Are these GM-sponsored or compensated reviews? I don't think that's an accurate representation/depiction of the actual, real use fit. There was no demo of you in the driver's seat. Why? You can't sit as far forward in the driver's seat as you could in the passenger seat due to the steering wheel/air bag. There was no demo of the driver's side with you - at 6''02 - in the DRIVER'S seat or with a child whose feet would be protruding toward or into the back of either front seat. You get the GONG! on this one.
If you are 6-2 and have larger children, then get the full size half ton truck. These are small trucks. Fundamentally the same size on both the left and right size. It's not comfortable but I can drive with that seat behind me. Thanks for watching
BTW, GM really doesn't like me. I have put out plenty of negative on my last Sierra AT4 and sent letters to GM with complaints. No connection. Viewers wanted to see a car seat so I borrowed my friends seats and did the demo. Simple as that.
nice, very helpful, I was concerned about the rear space but looks like it is ok for people at about 5'5"---5'8" height.
Thanks for watching!
Another great video. You continue to cover all the bases. One thing I and I'm sure many others would like to know is would a regular sized quad,say 400 to 600 cc engine fit in the box with tailgate down? Thanks
Let me work on it.
Appreciate you testing this, for science
You are welcome!
Great information! How is the room with both in there?
About 14 inches between the seats.
I think you being a dad and have a family really made this video out of the box or sort of. Thanks for make this video from the point of view of a dad along with family. Very nice truck btw!
I appreciate that! thanks for watching!
If I can afford this. I can’t afford kids. No problems.
Same! 😂
They sure aren't cheap that's for sure. Thanks for watching!
Hey Todd, appreciate all your recent videos on the Canyon. I’m considering the AT4 and this recent video helps me to get some more perspective on a midsize vs full size truck. I am waffling back and forth between the two. Only issue I have overall with the AT4 config is 8” screen..i think GMC kinda cheaped out on that with only offering the 11” in Denali and AT4 trims. Other than that it looks like a solid truck.
I got a phone call from GM today. I actually lodged a formal letter complaint to them about it. And they called me back. They said they will have more information for me on Monday.
@@ToddCotta interesting, someone was trying to save a buck. I get it for the Chevy, but GMC based on their marketing positioning should have all their screens 11. Gotta think Toyota saw that and went hmmm lets make sure to differentiate ourselves there on the next Tacoma as a + in their column.
@@ToddCotta I'll be very interested to hear what they have to say to you about it. The Canyon AT4 has been my primary focus for my next truck, but I am very disappointed that I can't get the 11" DIC without going to a trim level (like the AT4X or Denali) that I don't want. It's forcing me to reconsider how much I like this model, and whether it will be better to look at the upcoming options from the Toyota Tacoma (reveal coming the 19th of this month) or the new 2024 Ranger (also being revealed officially later this month).
In two weeks Toyota will be introducing the next Tacoma. Probably one of the most important announcements they have ever made. That being said, Yes, the 11 inch screen would be nice, the 8 is good, not great. But that would not stop me from getting my AT4. I am trying everything I can to see if it can be retrofitted. GM made a very bad decision to exclude it on the AT4. Elevation, yes, AT4 it must have it to compete. Have a good evening.
@@ToddCotta thanks again for your very informative videos. I’ll be interested as well to hear GM’s response to you. Please keep us posted. I have the AT4 similar to yours on order with the technology plus package which should have included the 11 inches digital instrument cluster. I’m a software engineer and my guess it is just a matter of software configuration to enable what they call in the owner’s manual the uplevel display to be used instead of the base display.
unfortunately that first reverse seat only works for infant. You still need bigger car seat in reverse until 40lbs. Those are the problem.
THanks for commenting!
Thanks for this! I had concerns being 6 feet. Not anymore seeing the fit with you at 6'2 😊
Glad to help!
I remember a decade or more ago. The midsized truck buyers were not worried about child seats fitting.
They would give the Honda Ridgeline hell about stuff like this.
How comfortable a pickup truck was. How did child seats fit into it.
A decade ago the market was much different. Today the range of truck buyers is much greater and excluding families is losing out on a huge sales opportunity in the truck industry. I remember when extended cab trucks were the bomb, and then 4 door trucks took over. Everything changes. Trucks are now nicer than most sedans, and buyers expect it for the money we are spending. Thanks for commenting!
Not too shabby. My kids are teeny boppers now so a great excuse to move up to a truck. 😅
Current vehicle is 2014 Highlander and my kids hate the third row now. That was my sell to the Mrs. 😅
Yeah, I've been married for 30 years now and luckily my wife lets me do all the car decisions and truck decisions. But our kids are grown now. Thanks for watching
Nice video, very helpful. If you can arrange it, can you possibly do a drag race and rolling race with a Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline? Those are 2 of the fastest midsize trucks, and I’m curious how the Canyon would stack up with its impressive powertrain numbers.
I don't have access to these trucks. I am just a guy with a AT4. I will keep my eyes open for future vehicles to compare. Thanks for watching!
Can you put it in the middle also?
It would be difficult but it could be done. Thanks for asking!
Todd, I really enjoy your videos. When I first saw information on the 2023 Canyon AT4 I really wanted one but the increased price on the new models put them just out of my price range, so I will just have to dream for now.
Goals are always a good thing.
work harder, get off UA-cam
What is the payload capacity of this truck? I believe it has a premium package and sunroof. So is that impacting the payload capacity? The normal payload capacity for AT4 is 1580lb. I was wondering how it changed with packages and running boards 🤔?
1580 lbs is correct. just just reduce that number by the weight of the boards and any other addons you put on the truck. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for that. I saw the canyon/Colorado had the biggest leg room F/R in its class and was curious about rear facing car seats. Im 6'2 myself, so it can be a tight squeeze in some vehicles. We are currently using a 15 Tacoma and its working, and it looks like this canyon would give us more room, but I dont know if it would really be much more. We have a F350 DRW that fits us all very comfortably, but its a big truck around town. So was considering another vehicle in between that would work but not be giant. Thinking a full size truck or mid size SUV may do the trick. Thank you
I am 6/2 also and fit just fine, but if my daughter rides with us 5'6 she sits behind my wife. I do love how easy it gets around town and in parking lots compared to my previous 1500 Sierra and 2500 Ram. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Do you think 2 rear facing car seats and a booster would fit? We have (2) 9 month old twins and a 7 year old. A full size would be nice but it would be my commuter every day vehicle. A Ridgeline makes more sense but these trucks are nice.
Three might be a tight fit. two booster and one rear may work. but I don't have that many friends with small children. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video.
You're welcome!!!
Did you try putting the forward facing toddler seat behind the driver's seat and see if there would be enough room with the driver's seat in your desired spot? I have 2 kids, 1 rear facing car seat and 1 forward facing. I assume the forward facing would be better behind the driver
The seats are about the same and Yes a forward would work better behind the driver seat. Thanks for watching!
Todd, great reviews. I'm considering buying a Canyon. Really like the truck. The only thing that disappoints me is the apparent lack of a Homelink garage door opener button on mirror or ceiling. Have to dig out my old transmitter and clip it to the visor? My '09 Avalanche has the transmitter button. Really hard truck to replace. Thanks again.
Seems like GM has cheaped out when they could have had hit a home run. I was definitely surprised no home link when I purchased the technology package. Thanks for watching!
Nice video, just a quick question to help all prospective buyers, does the rear seat fold ? Like on the 2ng gen... I see you have button on each of the rear headrest, can you see if the seat back folds like the previous ones?
Thank you
Unfortunately NO. That is very disappointing. My Gladiator had foldable and lockable back seat back and that was very cool. They could have easily engineered space back there. Thanks for watching.
Im glad this video review exists, I'm in the market for a truck but I dont need or have use for a full-size truck. But at the same time I need a truck that can be capable of fitting one or two toddler seats in the back. This video does give me hopes in keeping my plans on getting the new GMC Canyon Denali 😊
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
Ty for this video… Was looking for one with a forward facing toddler seat… Excellent review 👍🏻
Glad it was helpful!
sorry if you already answered this, but what model is that rear facing car seat?
I have no idea
Hey Todd! Thanks for fielding everyone's questions, I'd like to add to the growing list! 1. With the rear bench seat folded up, how much room is there for a medium/large dog? Is that bottom tray under the bench easily removable for more space? and also 2. Can you shift the car out of park if the key fob is not in the car?
You are not going to be satisfied. There is a huge plastic base with cross bars and the jack area there. I could barely fit a small pistol lock box under there.
Thank you for this video! My husband just purchased this and we’re planning on a family soon so that was a concern of mine if a seat would fit. Thank you! Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
I have the last gen. They must have increased the rear space because no one can sit in the front seat with a rear facing car seats
I was told interior dimensions were the same generation to generation. But it could be. Thanks for commenting!
Hey there, helpful video. how would it be with two booster seats and an infant seat in the back. My wife and I have 3 young kids but this would not be our main family hauler. It would be my car that sometimes would need to drive all three kids around town but not a long haul. I like the idea of a smaller truck (full sized would be great but they are so expensive once speced out) and easier to maneuver. Especially since I already have a Huge family car. Would love your thoughts (or a video?) to see how this might work. Also, I am 5’11” and the wife is 5’1”.
No go for three only about 12 inches between the regular car seats. Three booster seats maybe but not car seats. It's not as wide as a Silverado/Sierra. Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta bummer. Thanks for the video and reply.
I’m 6’1” and I currently own a 2022 Tacoma TRD Pro. I’m having mechanical issues with it. So I have a 2023 Colorado ZR2 on order.
What’s the seating position like for a taller guy? And how are the seats for comfort?
What a Taco with mechanical issues? Are you spoofing me? :) Sorry to hear about your troubles. :( I am 6'2 and if I put the drivers seat all the way to the rear, I can barely touch the pedals. Granted, there is NO room in the back seat when you do that, but I find it to most comfortable at about 3/4 to the rear with about 5 inches from back seat. To compare it is as comfortable or even more than my 2020 GMC Sierra AT4 was. Overall very comfortable. Thanks for asking!
The Tacoma will RARELY go into high gear. I live in the flattest prairies, truck is completely empty and only me in the truck and never will stay in high gear. The transmission hunts gears all day up and down. My fuel economy is as bad as owning a 3500HD. And I’m not alone. Do a Google search and you will see Toyota “reliability” has gone down severely since Covid.
I am currently doing a review of a 2021 Tacoma. On the freeway on rolling hills, it was lugging and refusing to downshift. Is this normal? Review is coming out. I feel there is more space inside the cab of the AT4. Thanks for commenting!
Will mom fit in the back with two baby seats?
Probably need to think about a Silverado or Sierra. This IS a mini truck at it's core.
Hello Todd- another great video- you now have me considering the GMC over the Colorado. My question about the back seat is does the back fold down? I have watched many videos and I have not seen a single one that addresses this- can you check this out? Do you think it’s an option?
Thank You!
The back seat does NOT fold down. I don't know why. It is bolted in. My Gladiator had lockable seats and folding, I miss that feature. Thans for watching!
@@ToddCotta thank you! Seems like a huge miss! Thanks for checking!
What I believe is happening is when you have folding seats with behind seat storage, you loose interior room, which is a NO GO for many people. It is a trade off that each manufacturer must weigh the needs versus the reality.
Great info as usual.
How about the form/function of reaching the brake controller in a panic stop? It looks a bit tucked in front of the left armrest.
Thank you!
The trailer break controller? Or E brake? It is just a pull switch next to the shifter. I have driven over a million miles and never once needed to use the e brake while in motion. Just for parking or playing around on a slippery road. Thanks for watching.
@@ToddCotta the brake controller. In the mountains and flat lands when towing, sometimes it's nice to reach down and tap the brake controller to keep control before things may get bad.
It is just below where the light switch used to be. Its not a far reach at all. Just remembering its on the left, and that's pretty much it. I have not used trailer brakes yet with it. Have a good night.
Hm what would you rather pick the Colorado or the Canyon? Both 2023 and both base model.
The GMC Elevation is miles better than the WT Colorado. See my video from last night describing all of the levels.
ua-cam.com/video/D1fmryOm6uw/v-deo.html
What about the LT or Elevation
Ok never mind lets go more into the higher models the Trail boss or the AT4
You did it!! You're the man!
I had to borrow the seats from a friend who has kids. Mine are in their 20s and it's been a LONG time since I had to deal with those things.
Awesome review
Thanks for watching! We got a ton of requests for baby seat space. So I did it.
Thx for this!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Great vedio! Keep it up !
Thanks for the complement!
@@ToddCotta so hard to get those truck in Canada and also no show car can check ~
Rory-Not Gail: Hmmm. Are these GM-sponsored or compensated reviews? I don't think that's an accurate representation/depiction of the actual, real use fit. There was no demo of you in the driver's seat. Why? You can't sit as far forward in the driver's seat as you could in the passenger seat due to the steering wheel/air bag. There was no demo of the driver's side with you - at 6''02 - in the DRIVER'S seat or with a child whose feet would be protruding toward or into the back of either front seat. You get the GONG! on this one.
If you are 6-2 and have larger children, then get the full size half ton truck. These are small trucks. Fundamentally the same size on both the left and right size. It's not comfortable but I can drive with that seat behind me. Thanks for watching
BTW, GM really doesn't like me. I have put out plenty of negative on my last Sierra AT4 and sent letters to GM with complaints. No connection. Viewers wanted to see a car seat so I borrowed my friends seats and did the demo. Simple as that.
@@ToddCotta 10-4. Thanks for taking the time for the rebuttal and doing it in an appropriate manner = RESPECT.