@@DubiousEngineering it happens, I mentioned it just for objecivity of the review, I would get same bad results between uniT signal generator and Rigol scope with 1x probe setup. Btw. HANTEK is now travelling to me too as portable solution.
I bought this model a few months ago as I do hobby electronics with arduino & rpi.. also I'm interested in music via test equipment.. A few people mocked my choice of scope but now after this review I feel like I made the right choice for my budget & experience level... ( which is zero 😆😁 ) Most of my test equipment is homemade with a 95% success rate.. Thanks for the video 😁👍😁
Seems like just the bit of kit to pop in the deployment box with the FT-991A to help troubleshoot issues that only seem to pop up away from the shack. Well done. Cheers and you earned yourself a few pints for this.
@@DubiousEngineering It is a great piece of kit. Takes a bit to transition from a 'knob and button' radio like my TS-2000 to the menu driven config, but if you are running HRD it's plug and play for all the settings, like most other radios using HRD. I use it mostly for WSPR and other digital modes on HF or local repeater work during nets and serious WX (leaving my TS-2000 free for HF voice, CW, and sat work) but the built in panadaptor for signals searching and VHF/UHF side is quite capable as well. Best of all, I have only four connections to deal with when I take it from the shack to do field work and EMCOM. There are the two RF 160 - 6 meters and 144/430, a USB, and power. Both audio and control is handled by the single usb connection to the PC. The radio creates two separate USB COM ports on the same cable, one for audio and the other for control. Other than the learning curve to operate like an SRD, I strongly recommend it for anyone looking for a TS-2000 like 'shack-in-a-box' radio. It even has a better built-in tuner than my TS-2000 and will generally tune up to just about anything that has a better than 3:1 SWR. The receiver is good enough to pick up LW, MW, and SW broadcast that rival my Harris RF-590 using a 200 meter long-wire in a wide U-pattern.
Takes standard 18650 lithium cells too which are easily replaceable (ie not soldered in but in a carrier). With the frequency generator you can type in the frequency by hitting the "frequency" (F2) button twice.
Still a nice review. Many mocked the thing for being so cheap but you seem to praise it for being pretty decent. It's also portable, so I see this very valuable.
the best part is the function generator and the rechargeable battery, would make it even usable for working on cars or other equipment that can't be moved in to a table.
Nice video. I was looking for videos about this model with some tests and you do it Very well. I decided purchase one of these for my hobby assemblies. Thanks. Big hug from Brazil! P.S. By the way: you won one more follower....👍
Thanks Marcelo!! - We have a big range of videos on the channel... not everything is electronics, but its all engineering related!! - I hope you enjoy!! :-)
As always, thank you for taking the time to share your expertise. As an automotive mechanic, my previous oscilloscope experience was with the standup cathode ray versions for ignition systems. Although today's automobiles still have the same ignition requirements, the amount of digital sensors and control modules have increased exponentially. I don't quite understand the 70 megahertz vs 200 or bit rate for this purpose. Would you think the Hantek 2D72 or newer 2D82 is up to speed for automotive use?
After watching your vid, I ordered the 2D72 and it just showed up this afternoon. I agree with your assessment, it's a nice budget/entry level O-scope and the AWG/DMM is a good bonus. Did see the same issues with some 'ugly' wave forms when pushing towards the top of the scope and AWG ranges, but for my situation it's unlikely I'll need to go to those ranges if I'm using this device. Mainly got it for the field kit to have in case I need to TS when operating away from the shack. Just wondering if you used the AWG probe compensation signal on the Hantek or took signal off the Tek to dial the probe in. I noticed that on mine, I had nearly 3/4 of a turn to get the probe compensation leveled. On a side note, I noted the batteries are replaceable. It uses a pair of 18650 3.7V 2600ma batteries in a springload case, so no messing with solder tabs. Just wish the SD card feature had been included, but being able to connect to a PC is OK too.
I remember that my probe compensation was a long way out too!! And yes! 18650s are changeable - again another bonus, haven’t had to do that yet... seems to last quite well - enjoy your new scope!! :-)
I think you could have fed the function generator signal into the oscilloscope. On another video I believe the reviewer says the three functions of the scope can operate concurrently.
Hi, just a further question about this device. I don't have one, but I do have a Jinhan jds3012a, which is similar in some respects and in that device, the scope and signal generator can operate at the same time, but in multimeter mode, the signal generator is switched off. You can't generate an AC signal with the sig gen and measure it with the multimeter; the multimeter is isolated from the other two modules. Could you test this with your device and tell me if it works in the same way?
Thanks for a very informed review, I just bought the Mustool MDS8207, which should arrive from Banggood in a few weeks, got me wondering now, if I should have got one of these.?
Thanks for the video sir! I’m wondering, as a hobbyist, is this more than capable for most hobby needs vs a standard table top size oscilloscope? For example, trouble shooting consumer electronics like a digital camera, or a radio.
I do realize a proper oscilloscope is better but I've already made up my mind on getting a cheaper handheld one really. At the end of the day some trial and error is enough and it can even test for bad transistor with the diodes setting. I'm looking at a kkmon one I think the company was called.
Hi, thanks for the great video. Does this scope indicate the frequency under test or do we have to make manual calculations to find the frequency. I tried a different one and had to send it back because the menu on the bottom of the screen was so small that it was impractical. How do you like it when it comes time to look at the small sub menus on the screen. Thanks very much!!!!!
Thank you!! - Here's a video that may well continue to feed your enthusiasm for this radio malarky... I'll get around to making a morse-code video soon :-) ua-cam.com/video/hHSbfUZWZzQ/v-deo.html
can someone chime in who uses oscilloscopes for automotive on what the bare minimum specs for a scope you recommend/what device you would recommend for a diy automotive user new to scopes? With so many choices my heads spinning.i just want somthing that will get me through most diagnosis but not somthing useless nor overkill.
I believe so, 10-1 scope probes are common, not sure about 20-1 - but im sure you can make one with some resistors in a potential divider configuration...
Does the multimeter function have the ability to trace voltage over time? Or if not, can you extend the scale on the oscilloscope out to ~10 seconds and ~20 volts and watch for voltage sag through a bad connection to a motor? Asking for a friend, who might be me.
No to the voltage meter... not sure the timebase can be extended to 10seconds... great question!! I need to look when I get home :-). I may forget... you may need to remind me!!!
Aha! - Thank you! - I have some retro computer refurbishment videos you may like... includng the resoldering of the whole ULA on that Electron!! - My first computer!! :-)
@@DubiousEngineering Sure that i would like them, but i dont have the time to refurbish old computers ;) In the late 90s i bought an acorn electron on a flea market in Vienna. Years later i put some power on it - and it was still working. Some years later i got a lot of old games working on it, including Space Invaders. But back to topic. The Hantec seems to be a nice tool. But some people report that it's not very precise. Have you did some comparing measurements with a DMM you can trust?
You made an error in the calculation of frequency at the 12:21 point in your video. Frequency is defined as F = 1 / period. In your case, since there are 2.8 divisions and each division is 25ns, then F = 1 / (2,8 x 25ns) = 14.2857Mhz.
to test an led... with this? ... it’s not really the right tool to test an led... but, it will supply a sine wave.... of up to 5 volts... so you could make an led flash with this using a slow sine or square wave ....
Can you use both waveform generator and oscilloscope at the same time? I need to generate a wave, connect it to an external audo effect and then monitor the output of that effect. Is it possible only with the 3in1?
No worries... I actually didn’t know I could until someone asked... so I played with an lcr tuned circuit and boom... yup... 1mhz drive out and a scope to look at it
I'm thinking this may be a little overkill for what I need this for ie. Maintenance and troubleshooting on sound equipment. But my friend who is quite the professional in electrical engineering claims I must get a multi reader with a waveform display. It's always nice to have too much of a tool than not enough of one lol
This will definitly take care of sound frequencies.. with this, you can generate them and inject them into the circuit as well as look at the results... very useful!
Great question, I havent tried to connect to a PC - not sure it will do much apart from charge the internal batteries... I dont think you can download and data.
What? I want to know if this oscilloscope /multimeter works before I purchase it and every review including this one does everything but check the oscilloscopes abilities up to 40 mhz. Jesus H Christmas 🎄
Awww.... send me a 70MHz signal genny... :-) This model claims 70 MHz... TBH if your going to go that high, I think you should probably invest in a GOOD scope :-) Second hand!!
You’re correct that model is more expensive... there are cheaper lower bandwidth models ... I did pop some text notes in the video as I’m aware I got the price wrong for that model. Sorry. Some people are reporting back that it’s £90 on some Chinese flea bay sites...
Circuit Specialists offer a great range of Oscilloscopes and Meters - Check out their site - www.circuitspecialists.com/
For 1MHz+ signal I recommend to put the probe on 10x setting, it has lower capacity and will show nicer squarewave.
Ah yes! Silly me... very good observation!
@@DubiousEngineering it happens, I mentioned it just for objecivity of the review, I would get same bad results between uniT signal generator and Rigol scope with 1x probe setup. Btw. HANTEK is now travelling to me too as portable solution.
I bought this model a few months ago as I do hobby electronics with arduino & rpi.. also I'm interested in music via test equipment..
A few people mocked my choice of scope but now after this review I feel like I made the right choice for my budget & experience level... ( which is zero 😆😁 )
Most of my test equipment is homemade with a 95% success rate..
Thanks for the video 😁👍😁
Well done my friend!! I commend you on your own home brew test kit!! Trust me this scope works well for the money... screw all the nay sayers!!!
Quality review- I've been sitting on the fence with this one but from what you've said I think I'll go with it.
I haven’t regretted it... it’s a wonderful indicator... but not a precision instrument
Seems like just the bit of kit to pop in the deployment box with the FT-991A to help troubleshoot issues that only seem to pop up away from the shack. Well done. Cheers and you earned yourself a few pints for this.
I just looked up the FT-991A - wow thats a cool looking radio!!
@@DubiousEngineering It is a great piece of kit. Takes a bit to transition from a 'knob and button' radio like my TS-2000 to the menu driven config, but if you are running HRD it's plug and play for all the settings, like most other radios using HRD. I use it mostly for WSPR and other digital modes on HF or local repeater work during nets and serious WX (leaving my TS-2000 free for HF voice, CW, and sat work) but the built in panadaptor for signals searching and VHF/UHF side is quite capable as well.
Best of all, I have only four connections to deal with when I take it from the shack to do field work and EMCOM. There are the two RF 160 - 6 meters and 144/430, a USB, and power. Both audio and control is handled by the single usb connection to the PC. The radio creates two separate USB COM ports on the same cable, one for audio and the other for control.
Other than the learning curve to operate like an SRD, I strongly recommend it for anyone looking for a TS-2000 like 'shack-in-a-box' radio. It even has a better built-in tuner than my TS-2000 and will generally tune up to just about anything that has a better than 3:1 SWR.
The receiver is good enough to pick up LW, MW, and SW broadcast that rival my Harris RF-590 using a 200 meter long-wire in a wide U-pattern.
Takes standard 18650 lithium cells too which are easily replaceable (ie not soldered in but in a carrier).
With the frequency generator you can type in the frequency by hitting the "frequency" (F2) button twice.
Yes... recently stumbled across this!! Thank you!! :-)
Still a nice review. Many mocked the thing for being so cheap but you seem to praise it for being pretty decent. It's also portable, so I see this very valuable.
I’m reasonably happy with the value vs capabilities balance!! A good unit!
the best part is the function generator and the rechargeable battery, would make it even usable for working on cars or other equipment that can't be moved in to a table.
Agreed... portable is awesome 👌
This looks perfect for working on tube amps. Setting bias etc.
The built in signal generator really makes it super useful.
Absolutely! I still love mine!!
MY Dream Scope but i cannot afford it.... just a student But Great video thank you just seeing this video gives me satisfaction thank you.
Awww... I still use it regularly... and love it!
Nice video. I was looking for videos about this model with some tests and you do it Very well. I decided purchase one of these for my hobby assemblies. Thanks. Big hug from Brazil!
P.S. By the way: you won one more follower....👍
Thanks Marcelo!! - We have a big range of videos on the channel... not everything is electronics, but its all engineering related!! - I hope you enjoy!! :-)
As always, thank you for taking the time to share your expertise. As an automotive mechanic, my previous oscilloscope experience was with the standup cathode ray versions for ignition systems. Although today's automobiles still have the same ignition requirements, the amount of digital sensors and control modules have increased exponentially. I don't quite understand the 70 megahertz vs 200 or bit rate for this purpose. Would you think the Hantek 2D72 or newer 2D82 is up to speed for automotive use?
Its a great question, but I don't really know automotive ... i would think 70MHz is more than enough...
After watching your vid, I ordered the 2D72 and it just showed up this afternoon. I agree with your assessment, it's a nice budget/entry level O-scope and the AWG/DMM is a good bonus. Did see the same issues with some 'ugly' wave forms when pushing towards the top of the scope and AWG ranges, but for my situation it's unlikely I'll need to go to those ranges if I'm using this device. Mainly got it for the field kit to have in case I need to TS when operating away from the shack.
Just wondering if you used the AWG probe compensation signal on the Hantek or took signal off the Tek to dial the probe in. I noticed that on mine, I had nearly 3/4 of a turn to get the probe compensation leveled.
On a side note, I noted the batteries are replaceable. It uses a pair of 18650 3.7V 2600ma batteries in a springload case, so no messing with solder tabs. Just wish the SD card feature had been included, but being able to connect to a PC is OK too.
I remember that my probe compensation was a long way out too!! And yes! 18650s are changeable - again another bonus, haven’t had to do that yet... seems to last quite well - enjoy your new scope!! :-)
This thing seems to be what I amlooking for for an upcoming electronics project.
Well, I hope it is useful for a few projects :-)
Just ordered the 70mhz without function Gen since I already own one. I think it will work fine for what I want it for,
I’m still enjoying mine... the user interface takes a few goes to get used to, but it works well
I think you could have fed the function generator signal into the oscilloscope. On another video I believe the reviewer says the three functions of the scope can operate concurrently.
You are quite correct... I had no idea the function genny would run in parallel... it’s a cracking little unit. Very happy so far!!
Hi, just a further question about this device. I don't have one, but I do have a Jinhan jds3012a, which is similar in some respects and in that device, the scope and signal generator can operate at the same time, but in multimeter mode, the signal generator is switched off. You can't generate an AC signal with the sig gen and measure it with the multimeter; the multimeter is isolated from the other two modules. Could you test this with your device and tell me if it works in the same way?
Interesting... I’ll try a 50hz sine wave at 1 volt and see if the AC meter can see it
Thanks for a very informed review, I just bought the Mustool MDS8207, which should arrive from Banggood in a few weeks, got me wondering now, if I should have got one of these.?
I'm not sure... didn't try the mustool... but you'll be fine!
Nice video!
The triglevel seems to be set a lot higher on the Hantek scope. Thats maby why the curve behaves unstable.
Fair point... I should adjust the trigger levels!! Oooh I did ... a little later :-)
OMG price went up!!! 60 lbs (about $83 USD) is now $178 USD and UP. they more than doubled
I guess they figured out they could charge more for it!!
Thanks for the video sir! I’m wondering, as a hobbyist, is this more than capable for most hobby needs vs a standard table top size oscilloscope? For example, trouble shooting consumer electronics like a digital camera, or a radio.
I would say yes... that's why I purchased it and I've been very happy so far
Awesome, thanks for the response!
Can you do a video on how to do a relative engine compression test and cam/crank correlation
When I need to one day :-) I dont plan to pull my car apart unless I need to! :-)
I do realize a proper oscilloscope is better but I've already made up my mind on getting a cheaper handheld one really. At the end of the day some trial and error is enough and it can even test for bad transistor with the diodes setting. I'm looking at a kkmon one I think the company was called.
The handheld units are really useful 👌
Would this be a good handheld O'scope to attach to 115vac home line circuit and if so are there any conditions before doing so?
Yes it'll handle high voltages if your using X10 probes. Please be careful!
great review!
have you compared the Vrms shown by its multimeter to the one of the oscilloscope? are they close enough?
Yeah... it’s close enough for government work :-)
Hi, thanks for the great video.
Does this scope indicate the frequency under test or do we have to make manual calculations to find the frequency.
I tried a different one and had to send it back because the menu on the bottom of the screen was so small that it was impractical. How do you like it when it comes time to look at the small sub menus on the screen.
Thanks very much!!!!!
Hi there sorry for the delay - the menu on the screen shows frequency and it quite easy to read for me!
@@DubiousEngineering thanks for clarifying this, I've looked at several reviews and no one had mentioned it. Much appreciated.
Terrific device.. keep it up, Thanks v much Sir. Great video.
Aww thank you! ... Fun to play with these things!
Can’t complain about that for £60, I might get one 👍
The mod{l I have is 70MHz and £124 on bang good... I think the £60 version may not have the function genny... check the spec :-). Best, H
Looks like there was a second set of options in the AWG, was duty cycle one of them?
Maybe :-) ... I’d have to go upstairs to look!! :-)
Hi, can i use the generator of 1khz and the scope at the same time to trace the Signal to repair an audio device?
Thks
Yes, if you watch the video, later you will see me using its output to drive the input of the scope.
Great review of this thing! I often wonder what it can do. Also, what does one use Morse code for in the 21st century? My curiosity has been piqued 🙂
Thank you!! - Here's a video that may well continue to feed your enthusiasm for this radio malarky... I'll get around to making a morse-code video soon :-) ua-cam.com/video/hHSbfUZWZzQ/v-deo.html
can someone chime in who uses oscilloscopes for automotive on what the bare minimum specs for a scope you recommend/what device you would recommend for a diy automotive user new to scopes? With so many choices my heads spinning.i just want somthing that will get me through most diagnosis but not somthing useless nor overkill.
I'm so sorry I have very little experience of scopes on cars... hopefully someone else will and they may leave a comment!
Thank you very much indeed Sir. Vedio is great. Would you mind posting one more vedio for the same device about function generator.
Yes one day!! :-)
nice review, but the price is about the double with banggood !! right now its 153 euro's, about 130pound or so for the 2d72
You're right... they do sell cheaper ones with slightly less functionality and bandwidth.
Can the hantek use an attenuator 20-1 and then measure fuel injector and ignition waveforms? Thanks for the videos all very good.
I believe so, 10-1 scope probes are common, not sure about 20-1 - but im sure you can make one with some resistors in a potential divider configuration...
Does the multimeter function have the ability to trace voltage over time? Or if not, can you extend the scale on the oscilloscope out to ~10 seconds and ~20 volts and watch for voltage sag through a bad connection to a motor? Asking for a friend, who might be me.
No to the voltage meter... not sure the timebase can be extended to 10seconds... great question!! I need to look when I get home :-). I may forget... you may need to remind me!!!
With the Hantek PC software you can. Sad that it isn't built in. And I would rather had bluetooth and android-app than USB/Windows.
thanks for the video
it is a good tool for automotive diag
That’s good to know! Thanks for your comments!!
Is this scope good enough to use on a home stereo amp for repairs and such?
absolutely!
Very entertaining video! And i like your acorn electron 😁
Aha! - Thank you! - I have some retro computer refurbishment videos you may like... includng the resoldering of the whole ULA on that Electron!! - My first computer!! :-)
@@DubiousEngineering Sure that i would like them, but i dont have the time to refurbish old computers ;) In the late 90s i bought an acorn electron on a flea market in Vienna. Years later i put some power on it - and it was still working. Some years later i got a lot of old games working on it, including Space Invaders. But back to topic. The Hantec seems to be a nice tool. But some people report that it's not very precise. Have you did some comparing measurements with a DMM you can trust?
Good question I haven’t compared with my fluke DMM ... I will do one day.
You made an error in the calculation of frequency at the 12:21 point in your video. Frequency is defined as F = 1 / period. In your case, since there are 2.8 divisions and each division is 25ns, then F = 1 / (2,8 x 25ns) = 14.2857Mhz.
You're correct... I even noticed when I edited the video... but it was too late by ten... so I kept the cut! - Great spot!
How fast of a scope do you need to measure spi data and apa102 addressable led data?
SPI runs at 60Mbps... Your gonna need a ast scope!
pleas who the best hantek or owon
I haven't tried owon but my experience with hantek is good
@@DubiousEngineering owen in the same model there is difrant owon 100mgh and hantak 40 mghartz
did you just throw out the 2A charger?
Nope... it’s gonna get used 5v at 2a is worth keeping :-)
Hello, How do you do something simple like test a led with that?. I tried that in 2D42 model and is impossible. Thank you
to test an led... with this? ... it’s not really the right tool to test an led... but, it will supply a sine wave.... of up to 5 volts... so you could make an led flash with this using a slow sine or square wave ....
You can test an LED with a CR2032 button cell, costs $0.50
@@DubiousEngineering doesn't the DMM have a diode test mode?
Where can I email you?
And what's the maximum voltage it can generate?
My email is in my “about” section of my UA-cam profile.
How is the display in outside light?
In England it’s ok... not sure about sunny ☀️ places :-)
i hav ea VELLEMAN AND ITS NOT THAT GREAT SO IM LOOKIN TO GET ANOTHER SCOPE
Can you use both waveform generator and oscilloscope at the same time? I need to generate a wave, connect it to an external audo effect and then monitor the output of that effect. Is it possible only with the 3in1?
Absolutely yes!!! I have tried and tested it!!
@@DubiousEngineering Thanks man!
No worries... I actually didn’t know I could until someone asked... so I played with an lcr tuned circuit and boom... yup... 1mhz drive out and a scope to look at it
Thanks for the nice review
I'm thinking this may be a little overkill for what I need this for ie. Maintenance and troubleshooting on sound equipment. But my friend who is quite the professional in electrical engineering claims I must get a multi reader with a waveform display. It's always nice to have too much of a tool than not enough of one lol
This will definitly take care of sound frequencies.. with this, you can generate them and inject them into the circuit as well as look at the results... very useful!
to me the Hantek gives a truer representation of what’s going on, the TEK seems to smudge the image.
Yes I'm very happy with the hantek
Can it play Doom?
I bloody hope so... :-)
They need to make a lil bigger screen for it....
That would be nice, but it may affect the price! :)
anyone knows if can i use the scope and the funtion generator at the same time?
Yes you can
Esse rapaz é uma figura
Google Translate - "That boy is a figure" - Well, thank you!! :-)
@@DubiousEngineering means funny and sympathetic
Thanks Odair!! Have a lovely week and weekend!! All the best!!! Howard (Dubious)
I bought the 2C72 model, I am satisfied for oscilloscope
CAUTION Small fault: diode function could not test a LED, only diode !
Thanks for the hot tip!!!
What about the connexion to a PC ?
Great question, I havent tried to connect to a PC - not sure it will do much apart from charge the internal batteries... I dont think you can download and data.
@@DubiousEngineering Apparently it seems there is a dedicated software to save images and data; see here hantek.com/products/detail/13174
Thanks for the heads-up... I'll check that out!!
not £60 anywhere i can find but looks cool
Yeah this model is about 120 but there are cheaper versions with less functionality
I think it's twitchy because it's not grounded. They should ground it properly.
you’re probably right! ....
What?
I want to know if this oscilloscope /multimeter works before I purchase it and every review including this one does everything but check the oscilloscopes abilities up to 40 mhz.
Jesus H Christmas 🎄
Awww.... send me a 70MHz signal genny... :-) This model claims 70 MHz... TBH if your going to go that high, I think you should probably invest in a GOOD scope :-) Second hand!!
Check this out to understand why you have a sin wave on 10 MHz instead of square wave: ua-cam.com/video/PPgxFd97taY/v-deo.html
Likely poor quality filters ...
@10:33 It's not £60 though it's £120.
You’re correct that model is more expensive... there are cheaper lower bandwidth models ... I did pop some text notes in the video as I’m aware I got the price wrong for that model. Sorry. Some people are reporting back that it’s £90 on some Chinese flea bay sites...
"a professional Tektronix TDS210 "
LOL
Bwahahahaha... :-) Well... It was many moons ago... :-)
@@DubiousEngineering ;)
I guess so... it is quite a piece of history though. ^^
Hello sir
Hi sir!
Nowhere near 60 anymore
Sorry... more like double!